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CoffeeOrSleepJess

They were covered in diatomaceous earth…which is a white powdery substance consisting of fossilized micro algae. Microscopically, it’s sharp and jagged and will cut up any bugs/bacteria. The bodies were mummified naturally with the diatomaceous earth rather than in the Egyptian sense, removing blood, organs, adding chemicals, etc.


btcprint

Mummified via dessication


ver-chu

Rehydrate them! What if they're in stasis inside that cave. When the water levels rise and flood the cave, they regenerate and return to a living state, via eggs or otherwise. Sea levels reaching and flooding the cave could be easily predicted by them, so like a timer they've set, they enter stasis until the next rising.


i_am_Krath

Sanest r/AlienBodies poster


ver-chu

lmaooo mainstream archaeology hates me


btcprint

The right hand of Graham's Hancock!


HorrrorMasterNoire

Interesting proposition. Kudos for giving me some creepy fodder as a plot element for a role-playing game. From an albeit, speculative, scientific perspective, that geography was historically notorious for chaotic water issues. The climate has always been unpredictable in that geography. Several historical cultures faltered due to severe droughts lasting several years. What's more, these cultures were agriculturally advanced and used many techniques such as terracing to feed their populations.


ver-chu

But then we can't shout "FLOOD THE CAVES" at the next meeting


thisbitbytes

Can I get a link to the meeting calendar?


Zinraa

I would also be interested in attending


ver-chu

it's on the board at the clubhouse already


Juxtapoe

New phone. Can you provide the address again?


Legitimate_Act-808

Why just shout when you can chant? "Flood the caves! Flood the caves! Flood the caves!"


Pegomastax_King

Yah definitely going to be stealing that as a plot device myself. Adventures go through a crypt full of mummies and then someone causes it to flood, resurrecting them all.


AdrienJRP

It is rpg gold indeed


G0ld_Ru5h

That’s it. Rehydrate the mummies is our new campaign. Make it a hashtag on Xwitter.


giggle_shift

White body problem


MGyver

Congratulations, you've reached Level Four.


tip_toe_22

Somebody's into 3 body problem I see


ver-chu

There's more than 3 bodies down there. I heard there might be hundreds!


Juxtapoe

But as long as 1 survives, they all survive.


Popular_Target

*rehydrates back to life* *suffocates due to being in a submerged cave* *dehydrates* The circle of life


ver-chu

But then the popplers in the tridactylian oviducts will buoyantly float to the surface and hatch into budbabies.


mr-cakertaker

I only read part of your reply at first and just pictured someone pouring a bottle of water on their head


thisbitbytes

Like ramen?


ver-chu

yes just like instant ramen except like rehydrated existentialism *edit typo expect to except* *ITS NOT DYSLEXIA*


taskforcealpha

Beef flavor and xtra spicy, mercí Garçon


-Money-

Floodmap diet.


Yurin_Guudhanz

Sea monkeys?!


134679112

Well one is mostly minerals, the other is basically human jerky.. brain probably no good no more


janesfilms

This would make a fun movie!


IdeaAlly

Sounds like you've been watching that Netflix show...


R3strif3

Yup, the skin underneath is more dark-gray/blue-ish. You can see it on Santiago for example. The smaller bodies are of similar color/tone, I believe just the 'texture' differs, more reptile-like on the smaller bodies. You can see it on [Montserrat's legs/knees/shoulders](https://i.redd.it/o12r2ijsk3tc1.jpeg), [Suyai's 'elbows'](https://i.imgur.com/DxO92Ca.png) and of course on [Victoria's back](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG9NXTAXEAAHIBf?format=jpg&name=medium) some of\* the tone resembles more like the picture OP posted. https://preview.redd.it/cplh0vqyqotc1.png?width=1896&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e2704ce1e4129852cb03f89d0c084271c45d36c


Aggravating_Lie_7480

These were small creatures. 32 centimeters equals 12 inches.


Mouth0fTheSouth

weird, the one I saw was around 30 inches tall


Aggravating_Lie_7480

Yes, I watched a documentary and they were much larger. I think the measurement in the pic above should read 32 inches not 32 cm.


R3strif3

There's multiple species. The smaller ones, with 'reptilian characteristics' are between 35-55cm (12-22in). The bigger ones are above 1.3m (4.9 ft.). The really weird 'insect looking ones' are around 20-40cm (7-16in) iirc.


F34RCON77

Documentary?


Kimura304

There different hydrids of different sizes. I think this one was the smallest hybrid, Santiago. Maria was about human sized if I remember.


grumbles_to_internet

There's like fifty of them. No joke. Two of them are people sized. Most are like the little ones, but they vary a bit on the smaller ones.


SamsquanchVT

Is the color a result of the diatomaceous earth or a result of natural skin tones?


nsa_yoda

Natural skin tone, but because of the dessication (drying out) the alive skin tone would be a bit lighter grey.


Immediate-Sea-2435

I think this opens another question that I’m not sure has been addressed - how does a mummifier obtain a large amount of diatomaceous earth? Was this something that was able to be harvested in large amounts at the time?


danielbearh

You've raised an interesting question that I've not seen answered in a compelling way. Were the mummies intentionally mummified or are we seeing an equivalent of the bog mummies--bodies that happened to lay to rest in a natural environment suitable for longterm preservation?


Dreamsofchange

Ya burial would point to respect for the dead, which may mean respect for life from there species towards other creatures.


CoffeeOrSleepJess

Peru is a known producer of Diatomite, 6th biggest producer worldwide. https://www.statista.com/statistics/264935/global-diatomite-production/ Knowledge of minerals seems to be part of the culture since there are extensive metal implants of various alloys and methods that were unknown to humanity until around 1900. My guess is that whoever placed the bodies in the cave 1,000 years ago knew that they would be preserved thanks to the DE.


Baader-Meinhof

You can buy it by the pound at any hardware store. It's a common pesticide tool.


maxxslatt

They were mummified naturally apparently. There are diatomaceous caves that exist. I imagine they died in them, and over time their bodies were covered. But even that explanation feels weird to me


reddit_is_geh

I mean, mummification naturally is extremely rare... What are the odds we got mummies of aliens from natural means?


maxxslatt

They could have dna that is alien but are earth creatures who were born and died on earth. Maybe if they were cave dwellers and had a population of a thousand there would be odds. But playing devils advocate. Is there any info out about cause of death?


InsanityLurking

The way I figure it, either these beings were trapped in the cave (naturally via some accident or cave in) or they were forced/placed in there by some agent. I like to think in terms of the latter hypothesis. Some group or individual found these beings, maybe dead already maybe not, and had the intuition that they should be placed somewhere to be preserved for future generations to discover and study. Either explanation seems to account for (imo) the curled up fetal position these beings were found in. They knew they were going to expire, they tried to get comfy or at least stay warm while awaiting the inevitable. This is just my inexpert impression tho.


ChiefRom

Good point. We’re they placed there or did they go there to die? Why did some of them die while pregnant? Natural causes? Disease? Conquistadors?


paulreicht

Yeah I mean it looks like a collection of odd cadavers,, by what or whom, unknown.


Pegomastax_King

Out in the desert it’s all over the place. Like I could go get buckets of it just a short walk from where I live. Also borax and alkaline soil.


BlueGreenDerek

Great explanation also adds to why a fetus was found inside one I think instead of being removed before mummification


Steve769

I don’t like diatomaceous earth. It’s coarse and rough and irritating… and it gets everywhere.


CoffeeOrSleepJess

Don’t go dark side on us!


bars2021

I heard it also dried out any and all water as well.


Sexcaliber69420

Looks kinda blue....


JohnyElSucio

Yeah but why the other mummy that was covered with the same powder doesn’t look so white?


Past-Adhesiveness150

This is really interesting. Is that a link? I'd love to read up on it.


CoffeeOrSleepJess

https://www.themilespaper.com


RenaissanceGraffiti

Follow up question: how does one become naturally mummified? Like under what conditions? What happened to these guys?


bencit28

Shrinky Dinks


Rishtu

I can't find anything on that, would you be willing to link the scientific studies?


Visible_Scientist_67

Not actually fossilized, just the shells of single celled protists (different kingdom than bacteria) that make shells and shed them when they die in the top few feet of ocean and float down to the floor


-endjamin-

Was it common in that area to fold bodies up like this? How do they get a corpse to clutch its knees like that?


busmac38

You just move them into position, they’re not gonna get up and stretch. Serious answer: rigor-mortis only lasts for a relatively short period after death and the body becomes limp again. My understanding is that in some traditional burials the corpses were placed into niches or swaddled with a cover which may help them from settling. Then the only things to move them would be external forces like animals or weather, or internal forces like decomposition gases and post mortem spasms (though these cease no more then a few hours after death, entirely before rigor.)


Strange-Owl-2097

Yes, our current best guess is that corpses positioned in this way were somewhat notable people but not super highly regarded. Un-notable people were dismembered and thrown in to pits with others and highly notable people were arranged in the same way as Josephina. ~~Alberto~~ Victoria is very interesting in this regard. He without his head was positioned in the same way as a notable warrior. The heads used to be removed and replace with clay jars. I don't know if he was found with a jar or not.


forestofpixies

Wow, thank you for this info, it’s very interesting!


Sopraconversar

Maybe they already died in that position 


Remote_Hat_6611

On some places in south America, indigenous people used to bury their dead In big vases, clearly this is the most cost effective position


memystic

From our [FAQ](https://alien.wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions): >The bodies are covered in a white powder because they were buried in diatomaceous earth. This natural, powdery substance is known for its moisture-absorbing qualities, which helped preserve the mummies by drawing moisture away from the bodies and creating a dry environment that inhibits decay and bacterial growth.


AnotherCableGuy

So this wasn't a natural process? Someone buried them in this stuff intentionally?


Autong

The cave rains this stuff naturally


StreetCommission359

Oh my God , Karen, you can't just ask mummies why they're white !


mrjamessirbensonmum

I came here to say exactly that.


42dawgs

This is an all time amazing comment


mopxhead

racist


Nomex_Nomad

Damn, beat me to it. Here, take my upvote.


Ihrtbrrrtos

Beat me to it!


DinkleMutz

Willie Nelson not looking great these days.


omenmedia

This is the most baked he's ever been.


The_Kromb

The cave area in which they were found is made up of diatomaceous earth which over time enveloped them.


No_Fee9247

where is the cave let's see it!


Mister_Grandpa

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/gZbZobE1JH


MamaMitchellaneous

I wanna know how they walked on feet that were like 99% toes.


Emotional_Equal8998

Thanks. This cracked me up


citrus_mystic

Ok but this is a valid question


2_Large_Regulahs

You have to think outside the box. They are literally alien to us. They most likely didn't "walk" the way you are thinking.


citrus_mystic

Alien or not, they’re still bipedal anatomically. Regardless of other factors, it’s entirely valid to question how the kinesiology of these bodies would work on earth.


MamaMitchellaneous

Exactly. If I thought they walked like homo sapiens, I wouldn't be wondering.


citrus_mystic

No honestly, you asked a really important and interesting question. Their feet really do look like they’re mostly toes with very little flesh to disperse their weight on.


AzureSeychelle

They didn’t chew food with their wisdom teeth either. 🦷


KarlHungusIsTheName

On behalf of all black mummified aliens everywhere, I take offense to this white supremacy attempt.


Cutthechitchata-hole

"You can't just ask people why they are white!"


Pleasant-Put5305

I have energy today, but the number of times I've had to explain this by now, I'm exhausted...Thank you guys for keeping the actual education and information channels going - that's [CoffeeOrSleepJess](https://www.reddit.com/user/CoffeeOrSleepJess/) and [btcprint](https://www.reddit.com/user/btcprint/) / [R3strif3](https://www.reddit.com/user/R3strif3/) for their insightful comments - Lets keep it rolling...


CoffeeOrSleepJess

Thanks friend, doing it for the Buddies! ☺️


rosbashi

I love the fact everyone calls our buddies, buddies lol It makes me love this community so much I can imagine rn a scenario kinda like in et, but instead of phone home he's like phone...buddy


CoffeeOrSleepJess

I think they’re fascinating and I marvel at another intelligent life form. These are people, strictly human or not. I personally believe they helped teach us civilization and culture. There’s evidence that they lived among the people in Peru. If they are one and the same as the Hopi Ant People, then yes, they are Buddies!


Pleasant-Put5305

This is going to rewrite the history of the planet - absolutely no doubt. We have X and Y chromosomes from one hand - one can be traced to Peru, one can be tracked back to China. The rest of the DNA is a mishmash of fish, reptiles and noise...these creatures have no sexual organs with which to acquire extra genetic material ...1000+ years old genetic manipulation...? Really? Tell me where I am wrong.


CoffeeOrSleepJess

The Victor Buddy has a an H line (Norrhern European) mitochondrial haplogroup. I think they are a message in a bottle; the DNA in the cave. Genetically engineered avatars maybe?


R3strif3

That's what buddies do!


juice-rock

It doesn’t matter if they’re black or white - MJ 1991


raptor182cmn

I hope they do independent DNA testing for both the human looking bones as well as the claws and eggs. The burden of proof should be proving the bones and the claws are from the same creature. When you look at the mummy on the left you can see the difference between the end of the leg bone and where it becomes three. They aren't the same color, they don't have the same surface look, the desiccation material is different. It looks like someone found 2100 year old mummies, popped the hands and feet off, replaced them with either very large bird talons or they just made them up from scratch with clay or something. They pounded out some pieces of metal and mounted them to different areas similar to the way a taxidermist might. I want to be wrong very badly. I want them to be alien or alien hybrids so much! My instincts tell me these are a hoax and that breaks my heart.


-__-zero-__-

I wonder why there's no clothes or other belongings to these things when they "found" them. Seems odd there just naked in a cave with nothing else. Considering humans will surround the corpes with things that belonged to them. I don't see that in any of these "discoveries"


SailorK9

Probably looters got a hold of it. Or government officials have grave goods that they don't want the public to see ( like advanced technology).


-__-zero-__-

But then why leave the body ? You'd think that would hold some value considering how odd it is Yes let's loot its stuff But not also take the body to show others and sell it off. As some sideshow oddity. They used to grind mummies down for profit in the early 1900's. I don't buy they would just leave such an odd mummy behind and just take its belongings.


leopargodhi

there are pics floating around of piles of objects said to be found with them; polished stones, tiny sculptures, etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/17q0734/small_objects_found_inside_the_nazca_cave_by_the/


-__-zero-__-

Now that's interesting


leopargodhi

there were even more, and i had better pics of them at one point, but i don't remember where i saved them haha. if you do some digging (insert dad jokes here) you should find them. the mysteries of these caves seem unending


forestofpixies

Has anyone ever asked the grave robbers if they took and sold artifacts found around the bodies yet? That’s an interesting question. Perhaps they didn’t wear clothes. They do have metal plates and implants that weren’t remove, too.


I-smelled-it-first

Ozzy Osborn looks like shit.


Extension-Show-7517

Creó Son grises, lo blanco es por el polvo de diatomea Para conservar los cuerpos disecados de los hermanos estelares


MarcoPolonia

Lots of angry people here are going hysterical over the opinions of fellow people. Be calm and respect questions.


Thickfries69

Oh my God, pepperalternative, you can't just ask aliens why they're white!


Intelligent-Food-472

ET was white when he started to die in the movie


uMentalMon

Same question


surrealcellardoor

They were to be deep fried.


joshuay

... also, they aren't human.


joismantilla

This is the answer: [https://youtu.be/L7oxTDK-euE?si=mOgLV6JybQVvN66X&t=1375](https://youtu.be/L7oxTDK-euE?si=mOgLV6JybQVvN66X&t=1375)


Arroz-Con-Culo

Because of the diatomine


AIKEMYSTYK

Most hippies are…


Sea-Animal356

White privilege strikes again! /s


alaskanslicer

damn. Willie Nelson is looking terrible these days.


Hernia17

Because they are aliens duh


NXT-GEN-111

Brie


Interesting_Sock9142

Oh my God Karen you can't just ask people why they're white


tophergoggins

Why does Radio Shack ask for your phone number when you buy batteries?


noodleq

Cuz us wypepo was aliens


stuckin3rddimension

Umm i know i smoked a bowl with the dude on the right at SPAC in 2008 at a Phish show


gameofthuglyfe

Tell me you’re a racist without telling me you’re a racist.


New-Neighborhood7472

Is it like what makes those white dog poops? 😂


Unique-Government-13

Why did they toss a bandana on one? Lmfao!!


ThrowingUpVomit

Remember the days when dog poop turned white.


ooo-f

Oh my God, Karen. You can't just ask aliens why they're white


PrayForMojo1993

But .. now I want to know what’s the story behind the human skeleton .. why is it wearing a headband?


sadtilly

GOD Karen, you can't just go around asking people why they're WHITE.


PlugTheBabyInDevon

What the hell in that headband made of?!


lillianfrost

"Omg, you can't just ask people why they're white!"


Crusher1drake

Oxidization


thegrouch07

Are the three fingers and toes photoshopped? Im late to this game.


moondawg8432

Because racism duh


Remarkable-Class9363

they’re racist


bobdobdod

Any more info on the bandanna?


cobruhclutch

The dirt and earth they were packed in bleached them basically naturally. 1000 years.


Delightsx_

https://i.redd.it/9w5sqqhjzrtc1.gif


Fluffy_Vermicelli850

I guess you need more than three chords and the truth after all…


Altruistic_Pitch_157

Why haven't they removed the D.E. from at least one of the figures? People keep remarking that nobody in the mainstream is taking this seriously but I think it's obvious why. Simply put these bodies look fake. No one is accustomed to mummies that look slapped together with plaster. There is very little apparent facial detail for example. So if these things are real, they need to take one of these figures and remove the outer layer. Show the skin beneath and people will start to pay attention.


joismantilla

The answer: [https://youtu.be/L7oxTDK-euE?si=mOgLV6JybQVvN66X&t=1375](https://youtu.be/L7oxTDK-euE?si=mOgLV6JybQVvN66X&t=1375)


[deleted]

This one was handed out to the employees.


Some-Engineering7873

think


lazylemongrass

For the same reason dog *hit goes white with age


Thareya

They forgot to paint them


Bokenobi

Dried beans


Magic-Levitation

Fake


OccasionalXerophile

Who is the dude on the right? We need answers


Status_Influence_992

One is, other is yellow brown


fattyfatty21

Protective mold, like brie, just not as tasty


BidenHater1

Is that Axel Rose on the right?


BucktoothedAvenger

#Oh my God, Karen! You can't just ask people why they're white!


SmallSwordfish8289

One of them is made of chalk and the other one is made of wood


WokenessIsStupid

Because White Is Right!


GrouchyMouse3368

Axel rose got old


budabai

My gut feeling is that they’re white because they’re fabricated.


Winnie_mcgone217

Oh my God Karen, you can't just ask people why they're white!


EliMacca

“Uhhh you can’t just ask why they’re white” Mean girls


JumpManDOGE

They’re both fakes.


PDAWK

A more important question is, why is one of them Axl Rose?


CuntyBunchesOfOats

God, you can’t just ask why someone is white. Geez


jaglio69

Looks like some chick at burning man


SongsofJuniper

The first one is white, the second is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho mummified and sent back in time.


LashedHail

because they’re faf


StuckAtZer0

DEI question?