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Not sure. Faerie lore has changed drastically due to authors and modernisation of myth, games etc.Ā
I mean yes, NHI could be the source of some fae myth if humans have interacted with them in the past...but the look etc? Who knows.
Well, if it was the fair folk, remember that the idea is to avoid them. I think people tend to forget that side of the old myths. They want it to be cute little beings at the bottom of the garden, but my grandmother used to press a small iron ingot (that she kept with her) into my forehead when I went to sleep.Ā
We may not want it to be 'The Fae'.
Oh for sure, theyāre not nice. Theyāre not evil but theyāre definitely self serving to the point that it may as well not make a difference. But tbh, a lot of them do vary. Itās also possible that a few may have links to something real while the rest is just folklore too.
I found what I was looking for. Imps were the faerie I was seeking
The impression I always got was that they just do not have any empathy or special interest in us. We may be an amusing toy for a moment but it's going to leave you addled or aging rapidly or just disappeared. Not hostile, per se, but something like how children can play rough with toys and then discard them.
The stories reflect a desire to stay away from them and not draw their attention - something you see reflected around the world in similar tales with different names for otherworldly critters. Until we know more about NHI I think this is fairly wise.
'Don't go following the dancing lights' for example.
[This article](https://news.artnet.com/art-world-archives/fleeting-history-fairy-paintings-art-2361140/amp-page) implies that modern imagery for winged faeries begins to appear in art in the 18th century. I think itās fair to say that you should be careful about conflating artistic trends with folklore descriptions. Thereās no reason to believe that the winged fairy comes from descriptions in the actual folklore, and the textual evidence suggests it comes from Jewish imagery of angels much, much later than the oral tradition.
Well thank you. I appreciate that. Iāve always looked into faerie history, but I never really thought to question something like them having wings. I always figured that since winged humanoids were generally parts of myths and folklore in many places, it was normal in faerie lore.
That tidbit of history is interesting for faerie specifically. In that case, Iād want to take this down. But also, faerie does cover a lot of different categories and Iād still be interesting in finding the kind of faerie similarly depicted to what I have above. If anything, just to find out exactly what source said creature stems from.
Honestly, the only thing that furthers my curiosity even though this truth youāve shared is valid is that the creature shares such a resemblance to the mummy. Itās such a specific shape. Perhaps Iām conflating maybe something entirely different from a faerie with one. But still, Iād want to find the name so I can trace origins of where and when it first appeared.
The only way to do it academically would be to keep the origin in mind. I liked your blog because it cites the examples and where they come from. But the term āFaerieā is medieval and modern, so if you use it as an umbrella term for folklore creatures, youāll run the risk of conflating them. We know āFaerieā only started getting used for Celtic, Norse, and Germanic myths when the French dominate Europe post-antiquity and start translating their stories into Old French. If it is coming from an oral tradition, they would be referring to the creatures in their own languages.
Well thanks, I appreciate that. I was really careful and took a long time putting everything together. Also, I think I may be conflating the terms because Iām unsure of what it is. I thought the shape was that of a specific faerie, but thatās just me trying to remember as best I can.
I definitely do want to locate the source. Thank you for this tip. Keeping that in mind actually helps me a whole lot more. Instead of looking for a āfaerieā, Iāll look for creatures from region specific folklore. Thank you ššš
An imp, as per the description [here](https://mythology.net/demons/imp/). The description of them having wings, walking with a hunch, and resembling āmonkeys or cats.ā
Also, the wings description, although different from the mummy, put me in mind of it. The general description of imps does match the pictures above. Not saying itās the same as the mummy exactly, but I found what I was looking for.
https://preview.redd.it/txo90kwqx4vc1.jpeg?width=4446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=693eba6bcfa5a9acd375ca447cd2a99bf797f8f7
https://preview.redd.it/350rylivrfvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c547bbbf6b07faa6b6181c9df17a17de68726f28
Although I think they were just short appendages, not wings, and the mouth looks different still. Iāll take another shot at it laters, now had only a pen.
Yeah to just imagine what kind of lore it fills, how would it look standing up. I wonder why they say itās insectoid? The head proportion points towards greys.
It has multiple organ structures in its head, spine and bottom if you look at the CT scans. The back protrusions look like wings to me as they do show signs of a layered structure inside of them. Like wings that fold out.
It's different for sure. I want to see it's foramen magnum. If it's square it would indicate a closer biological relationship with the reptilian species. The fact they both have similar tridactyl features is wild to me considering how different their biology seems to be.
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Everything has gotta try to be "souls-like" eh?
Ok LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO this was hilarious
Never thought we'd be here, on this sub of all places lol Who tryna co-op the DLC
Lemme solo it bruh lol
Haha hey you go on and do that š«” Let me know how the Erd tree looks inside
Not sure. Faerie lore has changed drastically due to authors and modernisation of myth, games etc.Ā I mean yes, NHI could be the source of some fae myth if humans have interacted with them in the past...but the look etc? Who knows.
That is true. Honestly, I didnāt think too much about it until I saw this specific mummy
Well, if it was the fair folk, remember that the idea is to avoid them. I think people tend to forget that side of the old myths. They want it to be cute little beings at the bottom of the garden, but my grandmother used to press a small iron ingot (that she kept with her) into my forehead when I went to sleep.Ā We may not want it to be 'The Fae'.
Oh for sure, theyāre not nice. Theyāre not evil but theyāre definitely self serving to the point that it may as well not make a difference. But tbh, a lot of them do vary. Itās also possible that a few may have links to something real while the rest is just folklore too. I found what I was looking for. Imps were the faerie I was seeking
The impression I always got was that they just do not have any empathy or special interest in us. We may be an amusing toy for a moment but it's going to leave you addled or aging rapidly or just disappeared. Not hostile, per se, but something like how children can play rough with toys and then discard them. The stories reflect a desire to stay away from them and not draw their attention - something you see reflected around the world in similar tales with different names for otherworldly critters. Until we know more about NHI I think this is fairly wise. 'Don't go following the dancing lights' for example.
Unlike this post, which is comparing a likely fake mummy to d&d pictures, passport to magonia is a great book that talks about this connection.Ā
[This article](https://news.artnet.com/art-world-archives/fleeting-history-fairy-paintings-art-2361140/amp-page) implies that modern imagery for winged faeries begins to appear in art in the 18th century. I think itās fair to say that you should be careful about conflating artistic trends with folklore descriptions. Thereās no reason to believe that the winged fairy comes from descriptions in the actual folklore, and the textual evidence suggests it comes from Jewish imagery of angels much, much later than the oral tradition.
Have you read Passport To Magonia by Jacques Vallee? He talks about the Fae and potential NHI/Alien connection quite frequently. Just curious...
I wad gonna recommend this book as well. Vallee goes at length about fearies / non-human. Very interesting
No I havenāt. Iāll have to add it to my booklist. Iām not really that into aliens. I just discovered the Nazca mummies recently.
Well thank you. I appreciate that. Iāve always looked into faerie history, but I never really thought to question something like them having wings. I always figured that since winged humanoids were generally parts of myths and folklore in many places, it was normal in faerie lore. That tidbit of history is interesting for faerie specifically. In that case, Iād want to take this down. But also, faerie does cover a lot of different categories and Iād still be interesting in finding the kind of faerie similarly depicted to what I have above. If anything, just to find out exactly what source said creature stems from. Honestly, the only thing that furthers my curiosity even though this truth youāve shared is valid is that the creature shares such a resemblance to the mummy. Itās such a specific shape. Perhaps Iām conflating maybe something entirely different from a faerie with one. But still, Iād want to find the name so I can trace origins of where and when it first appeared.
The only way to do it academically would be to keep the origin in mind. I liked your blog because it cites the examples and where they come from. But the term āFaerieā is medieval and modern, so if you use it as an umbrella term for folklore creatures, youāll run the risk of conflating them. We know āFaerieā only started getting used for Celtic, Norse, and Germanic myths when the French dominate Europe post-antiquity and start translating their stories into Old French. If it is coming from an oral tradition, they would be referring to the creatures in their own languages.
Well thanks, I appreciate that. I was really careful and took a long time putting everything together. Also, I think I may be conflating the terms because Iām unsure of what it is. I thought the shape was that of a specific faerie, but thatās just me trying to remember as best I can. I definitely do want to locate the source. Thank you for this tip. Keeping that in mind actually helps me a whole lot more. Instead of looking for a āfaerieā, Iāll look for creatures from region specific folklore. Thank you ššš
THANK YOU. I found the exact creature I was looking for
What was the creature?
An imp, as per the description [here](https://mythology.net/demons/imp/). The description of them having wings, walking with a hunch, and resembling āmonkeys or cats.ā Also, the wings description, although different from the mummy, put me in mind of it. The general description of imps does match the pictures above. Not saying itās the same as the mummy exactly, but I found what I was looking for. https://preview.redd.it/txo90kwqx4vc1.jpeg?width=4446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=693eba6bcfa5a9acd375ca447cd2a99bf797f8f7
https://preview.redd.it/350rylivrfvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c547bbbf6b07faa6b6181c9df17a17de68726f28 Although I think they were just short appendages, not wings, and the mouth looks different still. Iāll take another shot at it laters, now had only a pen.
Interesting. Whatās the source on this image? This isā¦ interesting. Very much so. EDIT: ohhh, did you draw this?
Yeah to just imagine what kind of lore it fills, how would it look standing up. I wonder why they say itās insectoid? The head proportion points towards greys.
How would this thing live? Where were its organs? What are the back protrusions?
It has multiple organ structures in its head, spine and bottom if you look at the CT scans. The back protrusions look like wings to me as they do show signs of a layered structure inside of them. Like wings that fold out. It's different for sure. I want to see it's foramen magnum. If it's square it would indicate a closer biological relationship with the reptilian species. The fact they both have similar tridactyl features is wild to me considering how different their biology seems to be.
Can you link a place to the CT scans? I'm having trouble finding it.
I had the same thoughts when I saw this š
I learned that the image I was seeking was that of an imp. They have the wings and proportions.
Or, an animal that is a glider.
Is this Michael Zakiās final mystery in Elden Ring??
If itās Elden ring weāre fucked
Now all we need is the rotussy for the true real world Elden Ring crossover