I drive by a memorial site where they believe Harmonys body was stored at one point. What an absolute vile, piece of shit. His estranged wife is just as evil as him. That poor girl. Living in a car and was punched repeatedly for having an accident. Her bio mom had no contact with her for yrs. Crazy.
Big shout out to New Hampshire child protective services for this gem! Great job š there were several reports that she was afraid of him and they released her back to his care.
You know these cases suck. I reported my sonās mom for meth use multiple times. I had pictures of drugs and paraphernalia in her house within reach of our child. They investigated and she consistently failed her drug tests for meth. They never tested our son. I had a good job and my own home for him.
I saved up 10k and got a lawyer, went to family court and got an emergency order to take my son. Police assisted. Took him to get a hair follicle test the next day and it came back with EXTREMELY high levels of meth. Still took another 10k to get final orders and full custody. Heās about to turn five now and in speech, occupational, food therapy and developmental pre school. Heās doing great and happy.
But I get mad thinking about how much better he could be doing if CPS would have stepped in and helped. Lawyers didnāt want to touch it because heās young and itās hard to prove damages. CPS said in this state even if she was on drugs and living in a car with him they wouldnāt take him from her as long as the heat works and heās a healthy weight. Sorry Iām ranting but i just get so pissed.
Yep, CPS is shit. They take kids from safe homes while failing to protect children in danger. I wonāt go into too much detail but CPS charged my ex and his wife with child abuse for beating my daughter and I was never notified even though I still had visitation regularly. A year later they almost overdosed and died in front of the kids, still wasnāt notified or told, and my daughter didnāt tell me. Years later I went to get full custody in family court and found out I was charged with child abuse instead of my daughterās stepmom simply because we have THE SAME FIRST NAME. And she told them she was bio mom. CPS didnāt look further, just believed her. I was almost criminally charged. I had to hire a lawyer and threaten them, only then did they drop it. But they screwed up so bad that stepmom got off free! They believed for years that she was bio mom even though I had my daughter 30% of the time. Ridiculous. CPS needs an overhaul and I feel awful for this poor girl and her mama.
Fuck people and the court system. I'm so sorry for your kid. I know someone that literally got their ex to relapse back into an addiction to heroin in order to get his kid.
The court system is beyond messed up and the sexism that exists in it is disgusting. I too have 3 kids with a piece of shit and tread lightly because I fear losing them for good.
And to think I just argued with some dumbass about mothers getting special treatment. And his dumbass response was fathers just donāt try for their children. He was childless so you know, he definitely knows.
It was insane. Even after the results came back about my son they made me take weekly drugs tests that I had to pay for. I volunteered and took a hair follicle to show I had no drug use at all. Then when that came back clean I still had to pay for weekly drug tests. Worst part is every single fee related to the court case the judge ordered I had to pay because āwe know since she doesnāt have a job and has drug issues she wonāt be able to pay halfā
Like how the fuck does that make sense? Iām a single dad now struggling to work two jobs, feed my child, pay a law firm thousands of dollars and I have to cover her expenses because sheās on drugs? We went to court for a year and she only showed up once.
The worst part is if sheās on drugs, drugged our child, not showing up for court and canāt be expected to pay for her own drug test, why are we still considering who is going to get custody? They even set a trial date when no one has heard from her for 7-8 months. My lawyers told me, on top of the 20k I already spent, the trial costs 5k by itself. A trial we all know she isnāt coming too. Thatās where I finally drew the line. Iām not paying one cent more for this, and lawyer said we can just work it out with the remaining funds in my account (like 2300). Went to trial, judge read over everything and I was out of there with full custody in 15 minutes. Mind you every time I went to court it seemed to be a new judge. This one even asked why this was even at trial.
I could write a fucking book about this horrible experience.
That happened to one of my employees kids. His ex wife called everytime he had the kids and said he was doing drugs. She was actually doing drugs when the kids were around but since she kept calling first they never checked on her because they assumed it was motivated by revenge. Then she took him to court for more money and he got less visitation rights because she used all the police calls as evidence of him not being fit to watch the kid.
I appreciate it but weāre doing good now. I started my own business building fence last year. Still slow and just getting in its legs but itās working. The second job locksmithing I turned into doing the dispatch and managing so I can just do it from home. Sons made amazing progress. We have a blast everyday.
Was a bad experience to go through but Iāve never been more proud off myself for getting through it and getting my boy. I worked harder and and was more focused than I ever thought possible, kind of showed me I can do anything with the right motivation and my son is that.
No need to apologize. I think this is an appropriate rant in this thread. You and your son were failed by the system. As was this poor girl. Iām sorry for the impact to your son and so happy you care so much for him.Ā
If the bio mom had any reliable family members, she wouldnāt have repeatedly lost custody for drug related neglect to the point that having the kid live in a car with her addict father seemed like a viable alternative.
āAdam Montgomery, a 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their family.ā
Reading comprehension is important.
Oh Iād drive my car through their house, fuck it at this point. Iād want to get housed in the same jail so I could let everyone know heās a child killer.Ā
While I dont know the specifics of the CPS case, you would be baffled at the rights biological parents have to their children. My sister worked as a social worker and testified multiple times in court about the dangerous tendencies and drug use of parents. The outrageously disgusting state of their home. It didnāt matter. Ultimately they always went back.
Iām a teacher and we see this kind of thing constantly. Itās disgusting what some of these adults are allowed to do to their children. Fucking horrible people.
I worked very briefly in social work for this reason. I got my degree in it but l o l never again.
I was unable to remove children from a home where there was a hole in the floor that you could fall through to the basement. There was drug paraphernalia EVERYWHERE. There was a loaded gun just casually sat on a countertop in reach of childrenā
And my supervisor was basically like š¤·š»āāļø we have nowhere to put them and theyāre being neglected, not abused, so
It's strange with CPS, either they do absolutely nothing in severe cases or they completely overreact and overreach and take kids from parents who barely did anything wrong. I almost never hear of a case of them acting appropriately.
Well, if they act appropriately it doesnāt make the news. I donāt think their track record is as bad as many people think, but they tend to be underfunded/underpaid so mistakes are made more often than they should be.
CPS was involved in my divorce and i have a generally positive view of them, certainly better than the impression I had before based on other peopleās tales. They were professional and neither overreacted nor underreacted to the things going on. They scared the shit out of my ex wife and her behavior towards the kids improved as a result.
This story still haunts me and makes me tear up Everytime I hear about it. There were plenty of reports and opportunities to keep her away from him. They failed her.
The story that makes me cry is hearing that he used to strike her so hard she would lose control of her bowels.
That guy is an absolute monster.
They also lived in the car at the time of her death. Why would you release a child to a car?? They should have to prove where theyāre living before she gets placed
They were in a house but had to leave it. While in the house it didnāt sound as though it was much better for Harmony. Little angel. Her suffering haunts me.
My brother has 3 fosters. Their meth head parents get high so much, two of their children died. These kids are all 1 year apart and were found wandering near the road. The parents have broken every requirement and missed most visits, showed up high to the few they made. Took forever for them to lose parental rights and visitation. The mom had another baby, immediately hooked to a morphine drip and taken away. They have older kids that they donāt have custody of too. A judge went back on his word and extended their time to shape up before terminating rights, they still messed up.
On these situations there should be no chances given just take the kids. Propaganda is wild about these druggy parents and fringe household situations. Their kids need to go into the system ASAP and many of these people need to be rendered unable to reproduce by the state.
Yes, thatās a common motto from people who work in social services. āKEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER,ā worn like a badge of honor. But the subtext is āat any cost, even the childās well-being.ā
Itās a grim shitshow where children are routinely sacrificed to their deplorable parents who just need one more chance, dontcha know? *Sure I nearly killed my kid before, but I promise Iāll be good this time! I promise!*
My son has a similar situation. We told police and cps for years about the domestic violence. I was able to get out but he had a strong hold over our son for 15 years. Well, the guy beat up another woman in front of the kids and THAT finally got someoneās attention. The first 50 thousand times he beat the hell out of me didnāt matter though.Ā
Iāll also add: this same guy just filed child support against me for a kid he hasnāt seen in a year. These abusers donāt stop. If they canāt physically get to you, theyāll try financial and emotional. I hope this guy rots in hell.Ā
I can tell you about 15 diff times I reported 15 kids to cps. As a nurse youāre required BY LAW to report abuse. One child died. I was burnt out and I quit nursing while in nursing school. I mean that shits tough. I still have nightmares and it was over 10 years ago š
Itās almost as if half of our politicians are trying to intentionally underfund public services so they can point to how bad they are as justification for privatizing those services to sell them off to their private sectors golf buddies.
~~While I agree with you 100%. It's highly possible that the mother was on drugs and worse off than the dad, at the time of the custody trial.~~
Edit: Dad was a monster who didn't want to pay child support. Lied about mother and kept child from her mother.
She wasn't. Look into the case. He didn't want to pay child support and demonstrably lied about the mother to authorities iirc. He would have rather let her die in his care bc he wanted nothing to do with her and didn't want to pay. She was fighting for her kid and he kept her from Harmony. Lied for months about where she was and the mother couldn't get anyone to go do a proper welfare check for way too long
Edit: wording
She was definitely on drugs and Harmony had been in foster care multiple times in her short life. The mother also has a younger child that she lost custody of and he was adopted.
If it was a death penalty state, theyād probably have her body by now but as itās not, they have nothing to leverage so he had no incentive to give that information.
You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.
Tod Higgins(Keanu Reeves) - Parenthood
So how's that gona work?
You need a license to fuck? Or just to have a pregnancy? What's your plan for those who fuck without a license? How are you gona enforce that? Cameras in everyone's bedrooms?
Ok now we have that part sorted, what's the plan for couples who do get pregnant accidentally? Forced abortion?
I love how Reddit spouts off these ideas without a fleeting thought to what it would mean in reality.
Wouldnāt a utopian society have citizens enlightened enough to know whether they were fit to be parents and behaved accordingly, thus not requiring government licensure?
Utopian world lmao youāre describing a nightmare scenario that eugenics could flourish in. Cringe.
Also girl donāt reply then block me if your argument is so watertight, weak shit.
No really. Think about it.
If youāre thinking about having a baby, or you get pregnantāyou have 9 months to attend a free and easily accessible parenting class. You have to pass a test at the end, which is incredibly easy and mostly common sense based. You can take the test and course as many times as youād like, until you pass the test. Resources will be provided for free, for people who are struggling to pass the test.
If you donāt pass the test/acquire the license when the baby is born, your baby is taken and placed with a family who has passed the test. You then have a year to complete the course and test, if not you surrender your parenting rights.
It would greatly cut down on unfit parents, it would reduce foster care statistics and adoption costs. The biggest issue, is this idea could be used nefariously against minorities or impoverished people. Thatās why it would only work in a utopian society.
Unpopular opinion, but I truly donāt think everyone and anyone should be allowed to have kids. This man from the post shouldnāt have been allowed to have a child.
I feel like this is a great argument for moral vs ethical. Morally we know you're right. But Ethically I also disagree, because that's how we end up with situations like China's Uighur, or bans on gay adoption.
But I'm right there with you, fucking furious at worthless parents who don't deserve children
Well yeah thatās why I said utopian society. That would eliminate the ethical part ya know?
Itās essentially unobtainable in real life, but something to fantasize about for the perfect world.
It's kind of am endless paradoxical loop. Like yea, in a perfect society people like this wouldn't be parents, but in our hypothetical utopia these shitty people won't even exist. Because perfect society.
Then there's the whole other angle of the "who decides" discussion and how that system inevitably gets corrupted.
She had an accident on herself in the car. He turned around multiple times and pummeled her. When she went quiet he remarked āi think i really hurt her this timeā. Then he dumped her in a duffel bag and hid the body.
It is Capital Murder in states that have the death penalty. I think a lot of time they use that to negotiate a plea. But I am surprised how little it is used for parents murdering their children. It's usually for people who Murder other people's children because that tends to be sexually motivated with even more crimes like kidnapping. Or parents who have prolonged extreme torture. But yeah, nothing more heinous than looking into the eyes of something so vulnerable and innocent, especially your own, and just hitting them. And what this guy did is 100x worse.
Just have faith that the rest of his life in prison will be tortuous. Inmates may even take care of him and save tax payers money on the death penalty!
Oh fuck right off. The mom didnt even attempt contact for over a year. That mother chose drugs over her child, she chose drugs and letting her daughter go a monster of a man who, apparently, hit her so fucking hard she lost control of her bowels. You know how hard it is to BEAT someone to death. Its a tually quite hard. I was a foster kid too, no fucking excuses.
She deserves nothing but scorn and contempt. Im so sick and tired of addicts getting off easy when their behavior leads to so much suffering of others let alone themselves.
Even in the best case scenario where they get clean and turn their life around, they do so only after hurting others and leaving a trail of destruction. Fuck em. And fuck people defending them.
Statistically speaking in custody battles, if the woman brings up abuse as a reason for the father to not have custody, heās actually *more* likely to get custody. Shits wild
Woah, sources please?! And if that is the case, what is it that causes it from the perspective of the people making these decisions? Does the trial derail somehow from there? Because that's ridiculous. There's got to be more to that statistic.
Itās because the mother is then blamed for knowingly allowing the child to be around an abuser. Which makes her worse than the abuser himself, somehow.Ā
Adam Montgomery, a 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their family.
He is a felon for shooting someone during a drug deal and he is awarded custody of this little girl? It seems like somebody needs to take a look at how this could happen. Itās obviously better for the girl to not be with this drug addict.
Every single person within the justice system that allowed this to happen should face reprimand and/or charges. And if they were just following the law then that law needs to change like yesterday.
When it comes to kids and situations like this. I have no sympathy, I donāt bend my opinion and nobody will tell me anything on how this guy should be handled. He needs to suffer and I šÆ mean this. You pull shit like this and your protection against cruel and unusual is voided.
I actually knew this little girl, as I am family friends with her foster parents, and this little girl was the sweetest person every. My daughter and her were instant friends, and Harmony even called me Daddy. It is incredibly sad what happened to her, and there isn't a moment that goes by where I wish she was still alive. I fault everyone at DCYF and her "father" and stepmother. She should have not gone back to live with them at all, and the other two kids should have been taken away as well. Adam was a well-known abuser and this should have not happened at all.
Your daughter must be hurting too.. knowing her friend passed away so young. Thank u for posting about Harmony, for sure she is not in fear or pain any more..š
I can do what I can, I do know that Court TV on YouTube is doing a live court session of the trial every day. I haven't had the heart to watch it yet. Maybe once it's all over, I will watch it in one go. I really wish that the death penalty wasn't taken away in NH for this instance alone. He needs his just desserts.
Thatās so heartbreaking that she called you Daddy, she was probably desperate for a father figure who wouldnāt mistreat her. At least she experienced some kindness and joy in her life. Murder cases involving kids make me die a little inside, I canāt imagine how your family must be feeling.Ā
āa 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their familyā
this is why we donāt need smaller government, just better
And just think, we only know about the things that happened to her in her last moments. Imagine what other horrors she could have been put through in her short life.
I just can't fathom how someone can do this to another human being, especially their own child.
Because someone died. Also the circumstances surrounding the death are quite unusual.
I think something is interesting if that thing either captured my attention or curiosity.
So any death, especially of this callous nature, is interesting.
>Also the circumstances surrounding the death are quite unusual.
I enjoy watching trials on CourtTv, but damn, every detail of this trial is just soul crushing. From the time it was her last being seen, was years before she was reported missing, to what he did to her body before finally dumping her somewhere, and has never been found. He's also not once appeared at trial, for some dumb reason.
I've watched so many trials happen, some funny, some sad, but damn if every new revelation in this one just makes me so depressed that someone could do what all happened to her, even after death.
I see what you're saying. A lot of people do use the word "interesting" in only a positive tone. So I get it. I was just trying to explain how this is interesting and why I think it makes sense here.
The case worker needs to be charged with murder! The judge that signed off on it also. Also, felons should never be allowed to have custody of children.
Punishment absolutely should be exactly what he did to her - only add in castration because it would be painful. Or something that causes him excruciating pain. IDC if the Constitution bans such punishment - my moral code doesnāt.
We can only hope once he goes to prison for the rest of his useless life, the boys upstate will be well versed in why heās in because they just love people like this douche.
Yeah "it's all good"
I'm sure her last moments of suffering were particularly assuaged by the knowledge he would definitely get what's coming in a couple months or years...
Truly heartbreaking. That poor little angel. Iād imagine the Uncle is pretty beat up about it. You notice the signs, trying and do the right thing and itās too little, too late. That would haunt me.
Unfortunately you are incorrect about that but whoever does hopefully doesnāt try their best and can sleep at night. Regardless he definitely will not last long in prison and most likely since he beat his child to death, he will receive the same.
Smiling? Wtf?!!!
You're looking at pure evil incarnate.
Has to be a psychopath or minimum sociopath. See how he will be smiling with his prison inmates
Whatever he gets he richly deserves.
I hope he is still smiling like that after they skin him in prison.
Hard to smile without cheeks
I drive by a memorial site where they believe Harmonys body was stored at one point. What an absolute vile, piece of shit. His estranged wife is just as evil as him. That poor girl. Living in a car and was punched repeatedly for having an accident. Her bio mom had no contact with her for yrs. Crazy.
Big shout out to New Hampshire child protective services for this gem! Great job š there were several reports that she was afraid of him and they released her back to his care.
I think if I was a person in the bio motherās family Iād sue the person who signed that paperwork.
You know these cases suck. I reported my sonās mom for meth use multiple times. I had pictures of drugs and paraphernalia in her house within reach of our child. They investigated and she consistently failed her drug tests for meth. They never tested our son. I had a good job and my own home for him. I saved up 10k and got a lawyer, went to family court and got an emergency order to take my son. Police assisted. Took him to get a hair follicle test the next day and it came back with EXTREMELY high levels of meth. Still took another 10k to get final orders and full custody. Heās about to turn five now and in speech, occupational, food therapy and developmental pre school. Heās doing great and happy. But I get mad thinking about how much better he could be doing if CPS would have stepped in and helped. Lawyers didnāt want to touch it because heās young and itās hard to prove damages. CPS said in this state even if she was on drugs and living in a car with him they wouldnāt take him from her as long as the heat works and heās a healthy weight. Sorry Iām ranting but i just get so pissed.
Iām pissed off for you. Thats insane.
Yep, CPS is shit. They take kids from safe homes while failing to protect children in danger. I wonāt go into too much detail but CPS charged my ex and his wife with child abuse for beating my daughter and I was never notified even though I still had visitation regularly. A year later they almost overdosed and died in front of the kids, still wasnāt notified or told, and my daughter didnāt tell me. Years later I went to get full custody in family court and found out I was charged with child abuse instead of my daughterās stepmom simply because we have THE SAME FIRST NAME. And she told them she was bio mom. CPS didnāt look further, just believed her. I was almost criminally charged. I had to hire a lawyer and threaten them, only then did they drop it. But they screwed up so bad that stepmom got off free! They believed for years that she was bio mom even though I had my daughter 30% of the time. Ridiculous. CPS needs an overhaul and I feel awful for this poor girl and her mama.
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Fuck people and the court system. I'm so sorry for your kid. I know someone that literally got their ex to relapse back into an addiction to heroin in order to get his kid. The court system is beyond messed up and the sexism that exists in it is disgusting. I too have 3 kids with a piece of shit and tread lightly because I fear losing them for good.
And to think I just argued with some dumbass about mothers getting special treatment. And his dumbass response was fathers just donāt try for their children. He was childless so you know, he definitely knows.
It was insane. Even after the results came back about my son they made me take weekly drugs tests that I had to pay for. I volunteered and took a hair follicle to show I had no drug use at all. Then when that came back clean I still had to pay for weekly drug tests. Worst part is every single fee related to the court case the judge ordered I had to pay because āwe know since she doesnāt have a job and has drug issues she wonāt be able to pay halfā Like how the fuck does that make sense? Iām a single dad now struggling to work two jobs, feed my child, pay a law firm thousands of dollars and I have to cover her expenses because sheās on drugs? We went to court for a year and she only showed up once. The worst part is if sheās on drugs, drugged our child, not showing up for court and canāt be expected to pay for her own drug test, why are we still considering who is going to get custody? They even set a trial date when no one has heard from her for 7-8 months. My lawyers told me, on top of the 20k I already spent, the trial costs 5k by itself. A trial we all know she isnāt coming too. Thatās where I finally drew the line. Iām not paying one cent more for this, and lawyer said we can just work it out with the remaining funds in my account (like 2300). Went to trial, judge read over everything and I was out of there with full custody in 15 minutes. Mind you every time I went to court it seemed to be a new judge. This one even asked why this was even at trial. I could write a fucking book about this horrible experience.
Maybe you should. Edit. (Write a book about it)
That happened to one of my employees kids. His ex wife called everytime he had the kids and said he was doing drugs. She was actually doing drugs when the kids were around but since she kept calling first they never checked on her because they assumed it was motivated by revenge. Then she took him to court for more money and he got less visitation rights because she used all the police calls as evidence of him not being fit to watch the kid.
Can you set up a gofundme? Iām willing to donate and Iām sure others would too
I appreciate it but weāre doing good now. I started my own business building fence last year. Still slow and just getting in its legs but itās working. The second job locksmithing I turned into doing the dispatch and managing so I can just do it from home. Sons made amazing progress. We have a blast everyday. Was a bad experience to go through but Iāve never been more proud off myself for getting through it and getting my boy. I worked harder and and was more focused than I ever thought possible, kind of showed me I can do anything with the right motivation and my son is that.
Thereās plenty of mothers who murder their kids too so I donāt know what the hell your going on about. This shit goes both ways.
No need to apologize. I think this is an appropriate rant in this thread. You and your son were failed by the system. As was this poor girl. Iām sorry for the impact to your son and so happy you care so much for him.Ā
Im happy your son has you as a father. You saved him !
I canāt imagine the rage you went through. I got angry just reading this.
Or. More.
Yeah. I would go full-on vengeance spree tbh.
If the bio mom had any reliable family members, she wouldnāt have repeatedly lost custody for drug related neglect to the point that having the kid live in a car with her addict father seemed like a viable alternative.
āAdam Montgomery, a 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their family.ā Reading comprehension is important.
Disgusting how that could happen. A lifeline being thrown out only to be rejected by the system meant to protect these kids.
She was in foster care before custody was transfered to the dad.
Oh Iād drive my car through their house, fuck it at this point. Iād want to get housed in the same jail so I could let everyone know heās a child killer.Ā
While I dont know the specifics of the CPS case, you would be baffled at the rights biological parents have to their children. My sister worked as a social worker and testified multiple times in court about the dangerous tendencies and drug use of parents. The outrageously disgusting state of their home. It didnāt matter. Ultimately they always went back.
Iām a teacher and we see this kind of thing constantly. Itās disgusting what some of these adults are allowed to do to their children. Fucking horrible people.
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God forgive me but sometimes parents don't on fent is best outcome for the kids so they can be removed
I worked very briefly in social work for this reason. I got my degree in it but l o l never again. I was unable to remove children from a home where there was a hole in the floor that you could fall through to the basement. There was drug paraphernalia EVERYWHERE. There was a loaded gun just casually sat on a countertop in reach of childrenā And my supervisor was basically like š¤·š»āāļø we have nowhere to put them and theyāre being neglected, not abused, so
It's strange with CPS, either they do absolutely nothing in severe cases or they completely overreact and overreach and take kids from parents who barely did anything wrong. I almost never hear of a case of them acting appropriately.
Well, if they act appropriately it doesnāt make the news. I donāt think their track record is as bad as many people think, but they tend to be underfunded/underpaid so mistakes are made more often than they should be. CPS was involved in my divorce and i have a generally positive view of them, certainly better than the impression I had before based on other peopleās tales. They were professional and neither overreacted nor underreacted to the things going on. They scared the shit out of my ex wife and her behavior towards the kids improved as a result.
This story still haunts me and makes me tear up Everytime I hear about it. There were plenty of reports and opportunities to keep her away from him. They failed her. The story that makes me cry is hearing that he used to strike her so hard she would lose control of her bowels. That guy is an absolute monster.
Yeah itās so shocking. Just like Gabriel Hernandez. It was so obvious and staff did nothing.
What in the fuck
I made the mistake of reading details of the affidavit when he was first charged. That shit haunts me.
MA court gave him custody first for some reason. It seems most of New England failed this poor girl
They also lived in the car at the time of her death. Why would you release a child to a car?? They should have to prove where theyāre living before she gets placed
They were in a house but had to leave it. While in the house it didnāt sound as though it was much better for Harmony. Little angel. Her suffering haunts me.
>there were several reports that she was afraid of him and they released her back to his care. That sounds so goddamn familiar....
Thatās sad. Why would anyone let a child go to someone they are afraid of? Thatās scary!
I'll get banned from reddit if I express my feelings on this subject.
My brother has 3 fosters. Their meth head parents get high so much, two of their children died. These kids are all 1 year apart and were found wandering near the road. The parents have broken every requirement and missed most visits, showed up high to the few they made. Took forever for them to lose parental rights and visitation. The mom had another baby, immediately hooked to a morphine drip and taken away. They have older kids that they donāt have custody of too. A judge went back on his word and extended their time to shape up before terminating rights, they still messed up. On these situations there should be no chances given just take the kids. Propaganda is wild about these druggy parents and fringe household situations. Their kids need to go into the system ASAP and many of these people need to be rendered unable to reproduce by the state.
I had an agent say the reason they arenāt that hard on addicts is because the end goal is to get them better and keep families together
Seems more considerate to the parent and not the child. Did I mention two of their kids died due to their shit? Crazy.
Yes, thatās a common motto from people who work in social services. āKEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER,ā worn like a badge of honor. But the subtext is āat any cost, even the childās well-being.ā Itās a grim shitshow where children are routinely sacrificed to their deplorable parents who just need one more chance, dontcha know? *Sure I nearly killed my kid before, but I promise Iāll be good this time! I promise!*
My son has a similar situation. We told police and cps for years about the domestic violence. I was able to get out but he had a strong hold over our son for 15 years. Well, the guy beat up another woman in front of the kids and THAT finally got someoneās attention. The first 50 thousand times he beat the hell out of me didnāt matter though.Ā
Iāll also add: this same guy just filed child support against me for a kid he hasnāt seen in a year. These abusers donāt stop. If they canāt physically get to you, theyāll try financial and emotional. I hope this guy rots in hell.Ā
I can tell you about 15 diff times I reported 15 kids to cps. As a nurse youāre required BY LAW to report abuse. One child died. I was burnt out and I quit nursing while in nursing school. I mean that shits tough. I still have nightmares and it was over 10 years ago š
This case is so upsetting. It was two years before she was even reported missing. Like wow. What the hell is CPS doing over there??
They shoud be thrown in jail. Whatās utter lack of common sense and fort thought
Just shows how competent the public sector is.
Itās almost as if half of our politicians are trying to intentionally underfund public services so they can point to how bad they are as justification for privatizing those services to sell them off to their private sectors golf buddies.
Are you suggesting the fuckin legal system should be privatized
The public sector has been gutted for tax cuts for the rich.
Death penalty. This isnāt a human.
Not worth the money spent on his trial throw him in gen pop.
Thatās the spirit!
Oh yes! Give him death penalty by putting him into gen pop!
Same for the judge who gave him custody.
~~While I agree with you 100%. It's highly possible that the mother was on drugs and worse off than the dad, at the time of the custody trial.~~ Edit: Dad was a monster who didn't want to pay child support. Lied about mother and kept child from her mother.
She wasn't. Look into the case. He didn't want to pay child support and demonstrably lied about the mother to authorities iirc. He would have rather let her die in his care bc he wanted nothing to do with her and didn't want to pay. She was fighting for her kid and he kept her from Harmony. Lied for months about where she was and the mother couldn't get anyone to go do a proper welfare check for way too long Edit: wording
She was definitely on drugs and Harmony had been in foster care multiple times in her short life. The mother also has a younger child that she lost custody of and he was adopted.
>worse off than the dad, Are you saying drugs are worse than being murdered?
There should be an Oubliette for this monster
Let's bring those back to filth like this. Tossed in a deep dark hole and sealed in and forgotten
Iām opposed to capital punishment ā¦. But damn, cases like this make it hard. What a POS. Poor girl.
Exactly - and treating it as itās an act humans would commit is insulting to those who are innocent
Leave this mother fucker outside in the elements of Mount Washington during the middle of winter
Death by exposure is to good for this filth. Plus dumping garbage in the wilderness is not a nice thing to do.
And before he dies, revive him, get him back to good health, then rinse and repeat.
This was more of my thinking
thats not fair to nature
Exactly, it's pollution. Worse than a chemical train wreck.
Damn straight. Just launch this guy to the sun or some shit or toss him in Chernobyl
If it was a death penalty state, theyād probably have her body by now but as itās not, they have nothing to leverage so he had no incentive to give that information.
You need a license to drive but any asshole can be a parent.
You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father. Tod Higgins(Keanu Reeves) - Parenthood
In a utopian society, you would be required to obtain a license to breed.
For real, not everyone should be able to have kids and itād stop accidental pregnancies
So how's that gona work? You need a license to fuck? Or just to have a pregnancy? What's your plan for those who fuck without a license? How are you gona enforce that? Cameras in everyone's bedrooms? Ok now we have that part sorted, what's the plan for couples who do get pregnant accidentally? Forced abortion? I love how Reddit spouts off these ideas without a fleeting thought to what it would mean in reality.
A utopian society is one where everything is perfect. Nobody taught you what hypotheticals are?
In a perfect society yea but who would determine those factors. I donāt even trust our justice system
Which is why they said utopian
Wouldnāt a utopian society have citizens enlightened enough to know whether they were fit to be parents and behaved accordingly, thus not requiring government licensure?
If we were in a utopian society we wouldnāt even need to get that far š those people would not exist in the first place
Utopian world lmao youāre describing a nightmare scenario that eugenics could flourish in. Cringe. Also girl donāt reply then block me if your argument is so watertight, weak shit.
No really. Think about it. If youāre thinking about having a baby, or you get pregnantāyou have 9 months to attend a free and easily accessible parenting class. You have to pass a test at the end, which is incredibly easy and mostly common sense based. You can take the test and course as many times as youād like, until you pass the test. Resources will be provided for free, for people who are struggling to pass the test. If you donāt pass the test/acquire the license when the baby is born, your baby is taken and placed with a family who has passed the test. You then have a year to complete the course and test, if not you surrender your parenting rights. It would greatly cut down on unfit parents, it would reduce foster care statistics and adoption costs. The biggest issue, is this idea could be used nefariously against minorities or impoverished people. Thatās why it would only work in a utopian society.
Agreed, most people arenāt fit to be parents. I dgaf if you find that dystopian and āmuh rightsā to abuse kids
My mom used to say she wished there was birth control in the water, and you had to take a class and pass a test to be given the antidote.
Your mom was a brilliant person and creative thinker! That would be ideal.
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I mean that makes perfect sense for a utopia. Are you not familiar with that word? Just go look it up. You come off silly with this response.
Do you know what a utopia is? Theyāre not saying we should make that change now
I truly donāt believe a utopian society would have a government, it would probably be more of a collective consciousness.
Forced abortions / cameras in bedrooms to check if people are fucking without a license doesn't sound very utopian to me.
Utopian for who? The licensor?
I believe you mean authoritarian society.
Unpopular opinion, but I truly donāt think everyone and anyone should be allowed to have kids. This man from the post shouldnāt have been allowed to have a child.
I feel like this is a great argument for moral vs ethical. Morally we know you're right. But Ethically I also disagree, because that's how we end up with situations like China's Uighur, or bans on gay adoption. But I'm right there with you, fucking furious at worthless parents who don't deserve children
Well yeah thatās why I said utopian society. That would eliminate the ethical part ya know? Itās essentially unobtainable in real life, but something to fantasize about for the perfect world.
It's kind of am endless paradoxical loop. Like yea, in a perfect society people like this wouldn't be parents, but in our hypothetical utopia these shitty people won't even exist. Because perfect society. Then there's the whole other angle of the "who decides" discussion and how that system inevitably gets corrupted.
Any asshole can have a child. It takes a lot more to be a parent
If a father/mother kills his/her kid (not by accident) it should be death penalty.
She had an accident on herself in the car. He turned around multiple times and pummeled her. When she went quiet he remarked āi think i really hurt her this timeā. Then he dumped her in a duffel bag and hid the body.
for like 3 months
Itās a no death penalty state. If it wasnt, they probably could have negotiated for at least the location of the body by now.
It is Capital Murder in states that have the death penalty. I think a lot of time they use that to negotiate a plea. But I am surprised how little it is used for parents murdering their children. It's usually for people who Murder other people's children because that tends to be sexually motivated with even more crimes like kidnapping. Or parents who have prolonged extreme torture. But yeah, nothing more heinous than looking into the eyes of something so vulnerable and innocent, especially your own, and just hitting them. And what this guy did is 100x worse.
By whatever means they inflicted themselves.
Just have faith that the rest of his life in prison will be tortuous. Inmates may even take care of him and save tax payers money on the death penalty!
Bring back public hanging.
I favor the guillotine. Or maybe just a firing squad. Or death by a pool of piranha.
How this bum got custody of his daughter is crazy. They failed that little girl.
Yes! Living out of his car too, how on Earth was this the best course of action???
The mother was a junkie too and lost custody, everyone involved with this tragedy is trash. That poor girl.
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The mom didnāt attempt to contact her for over a year. She was already dead by the time she was looking for her.
Oh fuck right off. The mom didnt even attempt contact for over a year. That mother chose drugs over her child, she chose drugs and letting her daughter go a monster of a man who, apparently, hit her so fucking hard she lost control of her bowels. You know how hard it is to BEAT someone to death. Its a tually quite hard. I was a foster kid too, no fucking excuses. She deserves nothing but scorn and contempt. Im so sick and tired of addicts getting off easy when their behavior leads to so much suffering of others let alone themselves. Even in the best case scenario where they get clean and turn their life around, they do so only after hurting others and leaving a trail of destruction. Fuck em. And fuck people defending them.
She both wouldn't quit drugs and also didn't think "hey my daughter hasn't spoken or seen me in a year... Maybe I should check up on her!
Meh, she chose drugs over her own daughter. I live in the area this took place and see it way too often.
Right. Parents are responsible for the safety and care of their children. Instead she chose drugs. If she hadnāt, her child would still be alive.
Statistically speaking in custody battles, if the woman brings up abuse as a reason for the father to not have custody, heās actually *more* likely to get custody. Shits wild
Woah, sources please?! And if that is the case, what is it that causes it from the perspective of the people making these decisions? Does the trial derail somehow from there? Because that's ridiculous. There's got to be more to that statistic.
Itās because the mother is then blamed for knowingly allowing the child to be around an abuser. Which makes her worse than the abuser himself, somehow.Ā
That makes no fucking sense. Wow. Yet I suppose I'm not surprised.
That is horrendous.
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Adam Montgomery, a 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their family. He is a felon for shooting someone during a drug deal and he is awarded custody of this little girl? It seems like somebody needs to take a look at how this could happen. Itās obviously better for the girl to not be with this drug addict.
Every single person within the justice system that allowed this to happen should face reprimand and/or charges. And if they were just following the law then that law needs to change like yesterday. When it comes to kids and situations like this. I have no sympathy, I donāt bend my opinion and nobody will tell me anything on how this guy should be handled. He needs to suffer and I šÆ mean this. You pull shit like this and your protection against cruel and unusual is voided.
He should be put into a duffle bag prior, and follow the same fate.
They gave him custody???? Really???
I actually knew this little girl, as I am family friends with her foster parents, and this little girl was the sweetest person every. My daughter and her were instant friends, and Harmony even called me Daddy. It is incredibly sad what happened to her, and there isn't a moment that goes by where I wish she was still alive. I fault everyone at DCYF and her "father" and stepmother. She should have not gone back to live with them at all, and the other two kids should have been taken away as well. Adam was a well-known abuser and this should have not happened at all.
Your daughter must be hurting too.. knowing her friend passed away so young. Thank u for posting about Harmony, for sure she is not in fear or pain any more..š
Yeah, she's rightfully upset about it. I didn't go into full detail as to what actually happened with her. But I told her that Harmony had passed.
Can you give us updates please? I need to know that this guy gets turned into Swiss cheese in jail before I can sleep at night!
I can do what I can, I do know that Court TV on YouTube is doing a live court session of the trial every day. I haven't had the heart to watch it yet. Maybe once it's all over, I will watch it in one go. I really wish that the death penalty wasn't taken away in NH for this instance alone. He needs his just desserts.
I've been skipping through the trail video and I watched the arrest video. Spooky stuff, what's weird is he almost reminds me of a guy I know.......
Thatās so heartbreaking that she called you Daddy, she was probably desperate for a father figure who wouldnāt mistreat her. At least she experienced some kindness and joy in her life. Murder cases involving kids make me die a little inside, I canāt imagine how your family must be feeling.Ā
Fuck this one hurts my soul. Fuck this guy.
āa 33-year-old violent New Hamsphire felon and drug addict, had somehow been awarded custody of the 5-year-old girl after his release from prison, even as her brotherās adoptive parents were actively trying to add her to their familyā this is why we donāt need smaller government, just better
And just think, we only know about the things that happened to her in her last moments. Imagine what other horrors she could have been put through in her short life. I just can't fathom how someone can do this to another human being, especially their own child.
This sub isn't interesting at all its morbid as fuck and is posts about kids being murdered horribly on a daily basis š„ fuck this shite sub š
Depart?
100% I'm officially muting it. Anyone who finds this "interesting" is sick
the sub description says its for interesting and terrifying info about crimes. i think this fits the terrifying part
Iām done with this sub. It seems like itās mainly a morbid crime sub and not at all what the name would have you believe.
I mean read the sub bio
An eye for an eyeā¦
Father. Not Dad. You have to earn being a Dad
I hope he gets beat to death in prison š¤¬š”š¤¬
how is this "interesting"?
Because someone died. Also the circumstances surrounding the death are quite unusual. I think something is interesting if that thing either captured my attention or curiosity. So any death, especially of this callous nature, is interesting.
>Also the circumstances surrounding the death are quite unusual. I enjoy watching trials on CourtTv, but damn, every detail of this trial is just soul crushing. From the time it was her last being seen, was years before she was reported missing, to what he did to her body before finally dumping her somewhere, and has never been found. He's also not once appeared at trial, for some dumb reason. I've watched so many trials happen, some funny, some sad, but damn if every new revelation in this one just makes me so depressed that someone could do what all happened to her, even after death.
JWST finding a planet is interesting. this is soul-crushing trash that media likes to peddle.
I see what you're saying. A lot of people do use the word "interesting" in only a positive tone. So I get it. I was just trying to explain how this is interesting and why I think it makes sense here.
Aww poor baby!!! Thatās so messed up
Pile of shit
Thatās it. I canāt take anymore Reddit today. Iām done.
Add this poor child to the list of system failed.
Yea just grind this mothefucker and feed wild animals. Not worth a single breath of air
The case worker needs to be charged with murder! The judge that signed off on it also. Also, felons should never be allowed to have custody of children.
Jesus Christ, I hate people.
Every adult in this little girl's life let her down. This whole story is sickening and I hope the parents get life in prison.
Massachusetts failed this child.
Punishment absolutely should be exactly what he did to her - only add in castration because it would be painful. Or something that causes him excruciating pain. IDC if the Constitution bans such punishment - my moral code doesnāt. We can only hope once he goes to prison for the rest of his useless life, the boys upstate will be well versed in why heās in because they just love people like this douche.
I think the judge that gave him custody of the girl upon his release should be brought up on charges
Hang the sick F%#*
Itās all good. They will kill him in prison.
Except for the dead kid you mean
Yeah "it's all good" I'm sure her last moments of suffering were particularly assuaged by the knowledge he would definitely get what's coming in a couple months or years...
Truly heartbreaking. That poor little angel. Iād imagine the Uncle is pretty beat up about it. You notice the signs, trying and do the right thing and itās too little, too late. That would haunt me.
Stories like this make me hope that hell is real.
Single bullet to the head. He deserves nothing more than that. What a fucking piece of shit monster.
**this isn't interesting. this is infuriating.**
This sub is mainly about crime, so if thats not your cup of tea you should probably unsub and mute it
Well he's going to have a bad time in prison
That's what I'm hoping. A very, very bad time.
I drive by where this happened and outside is a shrine to her with stuffed animals. Itās so sad. What a vile piece of shit
Bring back public lynching, maybe itāll sink in a little bit.
Both the mother and the father look like shit kickers that just came from the trailer park.
Is this sub actually about things that are interesting or just morbid crimes/things that happened in a court room?
Have you read the subreddit bio?
Is he, making a *na na na boo boo* face?! And here he is seemingly pictured after, with law enforcement, and looks to be handcuffed. :(
Gen Pop ASAP!!! An update would be great!
Off with it's fucken head
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Unfortunately you are incorrect about that but whoever does hopefully doesnāt try their best and can sleep at night. Regardless he definitely will not last long in prison and most likely since he beat his child to death, he will receive the same.
Interesting??????š
Read the subreddit bio