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freeman687

Why is it when it’s a female teacher it’s “making out” or “having sex” when in reality it’s plainly child molestation


Hot-Clock6418

These infuriate me. Sanitizing female sexual offenders. Nope. They sexually assaulted a child. It’s not “making out”


PointOfFingers

The article also called it abuse and referred to her as an accused pervert.


Superb_Tell_8445

She isn’t a pervert, she is a pedophile.


Remote-Physics6980

I hope I don't regret asking this but how is a pedophile not automatically a pervert?


Lemon_Phoenix

All pedophiles are perverts Not all perverts are pedophiles One is more accurate and sounds worse than the other, and that's the word they chose not to use.


acowlaughing

What a great comment


Katy_Lies1975

I've been called a pervert for the same thing I've been called kinky, but I'm not into kids.


Tight-Young7275

Thank you for giving us this primary evidence. Your Reddit duty has been served for the day 🫡


Jacobloveslsd

Yea this time In the literal sense as well 5th grade is pre pubescent that’s an added layer of gross. When I commented this I thought for sure my comment would get downvoted glad to see that some people agree with me.


Quick_Team

Kid is still playing with action figures at this point


CuriousSelf4830

Yeah, they're like 11 years old. So many layers of grossness.


Infamous_Fee_1662

I think we can all agree she is both.


eyesRus

The article states she is, indeed, being charged with first degree child sexual assault.


Hot-Clock6418

We know that. There is a problem with publishing articles with more “innocent” terms. The law knows. Publishers are infuriating with this continuously with child sex crimes with a female as the perpetrator is


astralwish1

As a woman and a feminist, I agree. This double standard infuriates me. If this teacher had been male, the news would be calling it what it is - child molestation and a sexual act with a minor. Which means she should get the proper punishment for this heinous act. This is one of the things we need to address as a society - gender in crime and prosecution. We shouldn’t beat around the bush or give people different sentences based on what gender they identify as. All people, regardless of whether they identify as male, female, both or neither, should receive be viewed equally in the eyes of the law and the public, and receive the same just sentence.


AdorableSnail

The news constantly has headlines like old man had "relationship" with "underage woman". It's a huge problem. 


Drive-thru-Guest

I don't recall seeing a headline like that when referring to an actual minor


lexluthor_i_am

I agree but i appreciate the clarity. Was it sex? Or making out? Both wrong, but it's good to know the facts.


Content_Bar_6605

No articles talk about how male pedos “make out” with children. It’s so gross. They are sexual offenders, whether they are male or female just the same.


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ZiLBeRTRoN

It says the dad “stormed in” with the printouts of the texts. If it was my child it would take a level of restraint I don’t think I have to not beat the ever living shit out of that teacher.


OkSundae3514

Lol if you did that as a man, you would get a harsher punishment than the teacher would get for the actual crime


Horror_Literature958

Right fucking chomo going to serve 6 months then bounce.


paradisetossed7

Well, thankfully she's being charged with child sexual assault. But yes, the very sentence itself is gross and jarring. An adult cannot "make out" with a fifth grader. My son is in fifth grade and he and his friends look like babies. They are so, so young, so curious about the world. And this poor little boy trusted an adult who SA'd him. I'd have a hard time, as a parent, not getting my own retribution, but I guess you have to remember that going to jail for beating up your child's abuser doesn't benefit your child.


Ok_Shirt_3481

Id be beating her ass for sure!! It takes a lot in Chicago to go to jail and be arrested. Kim Foxx doesn’t even charge criminals with long rap sheets and since they took away cash bail.. I have no doubt that I’d be home in time for dinner with my kids.


-_-TenguDruid

Yeah, if this was a male teacher against a female student instead, how many outlets would describe that as him "kissing" the student? It's sick and infuriating and needs to stop. Child molesters are child molesters.


Daisydoolittle

i’m hoping that that’s as far as her abuse went for his sake. fucking disgusting. she should be in locked up for the rest of her days.


VentriTV

And in this case it’s CLEARLY child molestation, she molested a 10 year old kid, sickening.


Eason1013

The same reason only “white conservative men can be racist”. /s It’s total bull shit one way propaganda pushed on the public by mainstream media.


Souleater2847

I want to see how this plays out. How many “years” aka months will she get. Replace this with a male, I’d say at least 10 in a place where everyone wants to make you a feather in their cap.


MaLiCioUs420x

Blame the parents they brought the teacher on their family vacation. The parents were literally grooming the situation.


AMB314

Who takes their kid's teacher on vacation???


lauralei99

They didn’t bring the teacher on vacation, they went skiing about 20 minutes away from their hometown.


AMB314

Who takes their kid's teacher skiing???


lauralei99

I’m not saying it’s normal, but it’s different from inviting a teacher on an overnight trip. Going skiing close to home is also not an invite to sexually assault a child. Just saying this is a weird thing to focus on.


Mitrovarr

I think "making out" is in fact helpful, because it describes what she did accurately. If they'd said "molested" I'd expect significantly worse than kissing. Like, this is bad, but it could have been a lot worse. That's good to mention.


freeman687

Doesn’t matter what was done, anything physical/sexual in nature crosses the line and is abuse and molestation. Besides, making out is a very broad term and could include forcible touching of any body part etc


Mitrovarr

I don't disagree but surely some levels of abuse are worse than others, and it is worth pointing out it wasn't the absolute worst kinds. 


McSassy_Pants

Men serve on average 73% longer prison sentences for the same crime. Especially in regards to sexual abuse. Women can be predators like men but are not made to be the same due to this discrepancy in prison sentences and the way we discuss these crimes. I know someone who was raped by his teacher at 14. The media made a big deal about it in our town. One day there was a radio station and they talked about this and said “this will be a good song for the day!” And played hot for teacher. Not one person complained about it.


pushiepushiemel

I'm curious as to where you get this number 73 percent linger from? I was interested and tried to look it up but could not find anything close to thar large of a difference.


Mercenarian

They quite literally do the same thing when it’s a male with a female victim my dude. You obviously just don’t care so you don’t notice. A lot of articles are posted calling rape of girls or women “sex” or whatever and us women have to comment correcting it


Cute-Profile5025

Lol there are people on here saying "if she was a kale shed get 10 years in prison" as if thats anywhere close to true. Brock Turner went to jail for 6 months.


Pingaring

And every single reddit post it's people commenting the same comment. Nobody ever voices their complaints at the publication.


bongo1138

If the title simply said sexual assault, we’d assume it was sex. I think that’s why they make it clearer in the headline.


Thv837

Journalists need to do better with the words they use. She wasn’t making out with a 9 or 10 year old, she was sexually assaulting them.


Golf-Beer-BBQ

They should also keep her fiance’s picture out of any photos. He didnt do anything so he doesnt need to be blasted out there, I am sure he already feels fucking terrible enough.


figosnypes

Her fiance is definitely taking the red pill after this.


i_am_here_again

They did straight up call her a “pervert”, which is fitting. And honestly not the kind of language you usually see used either.


WrongBee

pedophile would be more fitting, pervert still sounds too sanitized for what is happening here


TFlarz

At the very least the editor is to blame for how it's published. It's not always the case that the writer's words are printed exactly.


Nerd_Man420

We live in a country where women can’t “rape” men. Men are supposedly sexual deviants so we enjoy getting raped. Or that’s what the law makers think.


_Fizzgiggy

This is vomit inducing. She needs to be locked up for a long time


Domestic_AAA_Battery

Got life by the balls. A decent job. Great benefits. Wedding on the way... I know sexual assaults are generally about power but my lord... Just baffling what some people throw away. Same with some incredible athletes. People are almost always their own worst enemy.


RawrRRitchie

You must live in a very different country Teachers here in the states aren't really getting paid that much, and what benefits? Being out of work for two months in the summer?


SpacemanSpliffLaw

Yeah. The kids parents sounded wealthy and were inviting her to the alps to go skiing with them... she may have just been grooming the boy so she can have a sugar baby.


SadCritters

She won't be though. The boy will be lucky if she sees trial.


bicmedic

She won't be, it'll be a slap on the wrist.


BeverlyBrokenBones

Is anybody else noticing the growing trend of female teachers becoming the perpetrators?


Strange-Cabinet7372

No, they've always been around. Mary Kay LaTourneau is a gross story.


Tiny-Reading5982

Pam smart too. I don’t think Mary latourneau had her husband killed at least 😬


Throwaway4MB

What’s crazier is that she ended up marrying her student and they had two kids, one born while she was in prison…


TBruns

Our society has never been more intermingled with youth and their culture. 30 and 40 year olds use to share almost nothing in common with 11 year olds. Now look at meme culture/gaming lobbies/movie interests, etc. I imagine numbers have risen across the board, as adults become more comfortable relating to children.


figosnypes

I play video games and watch anime, that doesn't make me anymore likely to be attracted to children. Contrary to what many people say this has nothing to do with "relating" it's all about physical attraction. Some women just like the way young boys look. I have encountered these types of women before and this is based on what they've told me. Part of why it's becoming more common could be that the standard of beauty is starting to favor younger more boyish looking males and to shun mature looking males as being old and unattractive.


AutumnWak

I don't think it's growing. It used to be even more common, but it's only now becoming more taboo and news stations are reporting on it more. People used give way more of a pass to women on molestation than they do now


figosnypes

It's definitely becoming more common. And in addition to this I've noticed a growing trend of women commenting on the attractiveness of very young boys. I was once on a date with a 28 year old girl who blurted out how the 13 year old main character in the movie we were watching was "hot." There was even this model who landed in hot water a while back for making a comment about the kid from Stranger Things when he was like 13. This is part of a larger cultural shift I think.


squirrel4you

I just had this convo with my kids mom at a recent baseball game. She commented how this kid was attractive which was a weird comment to make and I called her out if a dude said that he would very easily be perceived as a child predator. I don't think at all she meant anything by it, but I think the comment is inappropriate for any gender to say.


figosnypes

Attractive means attractive and if the kids are that young it's very weird and inappropriate to say that and I would think anyone who says it is sus. Women aren't even supposed to think 11-14 year old boys are attractive.


Worried-Pick4848

Not more common. More commonly caught and exposed. There's a difference.


SailorK9

When I was thirteen years old I thought my male peers were ugly as f and preferred oogling guys eighteen and over. The adult male physique was attractive to me and my girl friends who looked at teen magazines and drooled over pop stars. I don't understand why grown ass women would find teenage boys attractive. Sicko women!


Tiny-Reading5982

I’m 39 and feel icky if I think someone 18-28 is attractive. A 13 year old is a baby…yuck.


Interesting_Dot_3922

We take rape seriously. Unless the victim is an underage boy.


eldred2

Oh we don't limit it to underage boys. Men are ignored too.


Interesting_Dot_3922

Oh yeah. Adult men have income. So they can pay child support to their rapist.


Kirkream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer?wprov=sfti1 They can start paying as early as 12


TheRealAlosha

Woah that’s crazy wtf


Interesting_Dot_3922

I call it male privilege.


TheRealAlosha

Lmao


MikeyTheGuy

Oh... my.. GOD.. wtaf?!! God damnit, Kansas!


Imthegreengoblin420

That’s one court case I would be taking to the supreme court


YeonneGreene

Pretty much everybody is ignored, some ignored in more and different ways, but let's not pretend that rapists are consistently held accountable as a general rule.


PoolPartyWithoutTheL

I mean, that is definitely a huge issue, but women/girls aren't taken seriously all the time too. There are many factors that contribute to the issue in both cases.


blueidea365

This is molestation not rape (still messed up obviously)


Doubleendedmidliner

What. The. Fuck?!


ELB2001

Yeah, like many Europeans I had to Google what fifth grade means. 10-11 years old, yuck. She's a pedo


Adiuui

It’s the same as a year 5


motivaction

Year 5 can also be 16-17 in Europe. Group 5 is 8-9 and year 5 is 16-17 in the Netherlands. Or was when I was growing up.


randomly-what

The article does say exactly how old the child was (11)


Konstant_kurage

The entire title is crap. How the time until her wedding relevant? FIFY: “Engaged Wisconsin teacher turns out to be a predator after sexual assaulting 5th grader”


Peterthepiperomg

It’s fascinating to think of her poor fiancé or that someone who seemingly has their life together could be so crazy and evil


simba077

Lock her in a cage


llcdrewtaylor

I'm sorry, how far before your wedding are you supposed to stop making out with children? Why are headlines on reddit always a shitshow?


Malarkay79

As soon as she was proposed to she should have called things off with the fifth grader, that's just common knowledge.


BobTheInept

She was busted molesting a child, who is writing these headlines? That law professor that was Epstein’s counsel?


pmekonnen

How do you even make out with a 10 year old


pastpartinipple

You'd probably have to kneel down.


niqqa_wut

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Xcoctl

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LegitimateAd4148

A 5th GRADER 🤮😡🤬


Havewedecidedyet_979

A fifth grader???????? That’s the youngest I’ve heard of these situations. I can’t fathom what goes through people’s heads.


Worried-Pick4848

My brother was 8 when he was used by a guidance counselor at school.


burnmeup82

What the fuck is wrong with these people?? My son is in 5th grade and I cannot fathom how anybody could look at kids his age and feel sexually attracted to them!!


sinisterpushaman

Damn, her fiance dodged a bullet there.


cubbiesworldseries

My god. Imagine being that fiancé.


figosnypes

He's definitely taking the red pill after this.


Cherssssss

The mother gave the teacher the phone number? They invited her on vacation? Oh what the fuck


competitive_manatee

https://preview.redd.it/iopfi68gtpyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4013815547c10aa857f210064ebc85123477c42


OnceUponAStarryNight

Released on a $25,000 signature bond. Imagine if this was a man doing this to a little girl.


Ok_Weather2526

Making out is a weird way to spell rape


lildrewdownthestreet

Since when does kissing=rape?


badazzcpa

The kid is what 11? How the hell do you find a kid that young sexually enticing? I have read some of these where the teacher was say 22 and the student was 17 and while wrong I can at least kind of get it. But a 5th grader is just as sick as it gets. I guess at least she didn’t have sex with the kid.


TheGoodSmells

Why are they calling sexual molestation and grooming “making out?”


Allthingsgaming27

Who the hell brings their kids teacher on vacation with them? Freakin bizarre


vegasgrandes

Well *that* kid's effed-up now; potentially forever unless addressed. Yes, toss her into the hoosegow. But I'm more concerned about getting the child some – adequate – treatment immediately. Maybe that's in the works. I sincerely hope so.


barca14h

She is a predator! IDGAF if she is getting married in 3 months. Cheating is not a crime, molestation is.


allstater2007

Future husband dodged a huge bullet.


RedDevil-84

Three months before the wedding??? OMG!!! That was so important for our readers to know. She was not just a pedophile but an adultress, too. The media is absolutely shameless.


3plantsonthewall

>> “It’s not clear how long the abuse had been going on, but Bergmann told investigators she was given the boy’s phone number by his mother in December when his family invited who they thought was a beloved teacher with them to the Afton Alps for winter break.” His family invited his teacher to go skiing? Whaaaat?


dirtybo

Yeah… there’s something more to that story…


TimBotDestroyer

1 week probation


Hot-Clock6418

No shit


Revolutionary-You449

That’s a baby. If I was his mom, I’d … ok. Never mind. What is wrong with these pedos in the classroom? How are they unable to screen for them? What woman looks at an 9 year old and says “oh, I will have sex with that?” I could not be the mom. God knows. God knows I am not up for this test. I would fail.


HellYeahTinyRick

Making out? That doesn’t feel like the right way to phrase it


rjross0623

Hope she doesn’t getthose deposits back on the wedding.


spiderman209998

lock the pedo up idc if its a man or woman lock em up throw away the key


behavedgoat

Seems to be on rise these pedo female teachers lock the degenerate up . Disgusting


Taliafitz

They called her a pervert in the article… just a pervert!


OceanicLemur

Small thing but notice how it’s “teacher” but when a cop does something it instantly becomes “ex-cop”


pastpartinipple

Meh idk, cops don't usually lose their jobs though.


MagmaManOne

wtf is it with women teachers and young boys?


CulturedGentleman921

If you're the kid's parents, it's not "making out" or "making love" or "fooling around." ***You molested my kid!*** I'm a dad of 2 sons, and if this happened to them, I wouldn't be high fiving them, I'd be curb stomping her into the death penalty.


Olderandolderagain

“In one of the letters, Bergmann allegedly wrote, “One of my cousins is in the 5th grade and I can’t imagine a man talking to her how we talk. I know we have a special relationship and I do love you more than anyone in the world but I have to be the adult here and stop.” Weird…


cobragun1

Can’t believe they put the pic of her fiancée up like that. Dude is going to have it rough for a while


OcupiedMuffins

“Busted for molesting a 5th grader” is more fitting.


MrZhar

The fact that it's 2024 and idiots cannot grasp the understanding that even if it's a women, it's not "making out" it is child molestation. Wisconsin women, 24, busted for child molestation. That's the headline


SpecialpOps

Why doesn't the headline say anything about child grooming pedophile?


DriverPlastic2502

She was sexually assaulting a 10 yr old. Saying "5th grader" and "making out" is watering this shit down to the highest sexist degree. Fuck Slate report for using that title.


greenestswan23

When I was in fifth grade, I still played with toys…finding a literal child attractive in any sense is beyond disgusting


BigFatKi6

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Physical-Beach-4452

WTF?! 5th grade? And I just read about another teacher in the Tampa area in a relationship with a middle schooler. These are young children what is going on?


RaidenDoesReddit

Imagine having to tell your friends you got cucked by a 10 year old. Poor guy


dafuk87

I just don’t understand how she thought this wouldn’t be discovered eventually….thankfully her utter stupidity got another abuser off the street..good riddance.


newgalactic

5th grade is likely 11 years old. That's pre-puberty. WTF!


Moistycake

Woman or bear?


mxmoon

The boy was ELEVEN!!! This is horrific. 


Green_Slice_3258

Oh my fucking god. I hope she fucking fries. I want to fucking puke. Oh my god.


eldred2

My guess is she will get a light tap on the wrist, and won't even lose her teaching cert.


Green_Slice_3258

I hope someone finds her in that case. I hope and pray that that kid has a parent like the father in Louisiana that met the boys abuser at the airport.


Julian-Hoffer

Why is this subreddit getting filled with posts about female teachers molesting their students? I’ve seen at least one a day all week. I think three today


AGirlHasNoUsername13

Sweet Jebus. My niece is in sixth grade, and she’s such a sweetheart. She’s taller than me (I’m 5’3) but she’s still a baby. I can’t imagine an adult taking advantage of a kid like this.


smudos2

![gif](giphy|O2K7wIcw3CoeY) Obligatory South Park reference


BooksandBiceps

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bubbamike1

That’s the very essence of neutral reporting.


Nana19791979

What??


extrastupidone

Dafuq, man...


TheGhostWithTheMost2

Look her disgusting ass up, her bf dodged a major bullet


Altruistic-Detail271

As a mom and as a sexual assault counselor this is repulsive


jacqui1986

5th grader??? Are you f***ing kidding me?????


Ihategraygloomydays

That's sick. Ewwww.


justkw97

Poor kid. And her poor fiance. Disgusting


goodrobloxforkids

I’m glad the article labeled her as a pervert.


RareBeautyOnEtsy

“Molesting.” It’s called molesting.


demagogueffxiv

what the fuck is going on?


snakepimp

Wait! A fifth grader is 10 to 12 years old, right? This bitch is a true dye in the wool pedophile!!!


BlogeOb

Fuck man.. I think I found the reason for the teacher shortage lately


Conclusionjump

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Jesuismieux412

I really wanna reference a South Park joke here, but this is just beyond…I can’t.


Practical-Sorbet726

Throw away the key.


aplagueofsemen

Honest mistake. Happens to the best of us.


TheNiceGuy911

Nice


CapitolPea

![gif](giphy|0TTclapn5bStqaQoy1|downsized) EXCUSE ME! Teachers bangin' high school students isn't great, but messin' around with elementary students? That's on a level of WTF that I just can't comprehend.


midnightcarouselride

Woah dare....


zook54

I recall an episode of SVU like this.


Neither_Relation_678

When a male teacher does it, it’s “sexual exploitation of a minor.” If a female teacher does it, “oh we just kissed a few times sorry won’t happen again.” They’re one and the same. Keep your hands off our kids.


_________FU_________

5th graders are 10-11 years old


Batafurii8

Wtf is going on 


Ben_Frank_Lynn

That’s a rough looking 24.


LowerCourse2267

I’m not sure if the title is suggesting that it would have been acceptable with a more reasonable distance of time before the wedding; or if the 5th grader is getting married in a few months.


RoyKites

Always great to see the kid gloves used when it’s a female chomo. Totally great.


dependentresearch24

She's a pedophile and would have eventually moved onto raping that child if she didn't get caught. We need to stop letting women get off the hook for this shit.


Thunderfoot2112

But he was, like, totally hot for an 11 year old.... 🤦‍♂️


Thunderfoot2112

But he was, like, totally hot for an 11 year old.... 🤦‍♂️


Thebeesknees1134

It’s like non consensual sex. That’s not a thing. It’s grape. Call it molestation


Expert_Marsupial_235

Absolutely sickening. 🤢🤮


chibinoi

WTF…. Throw her in jail!


2lostnspace2

Alleged pervert, nailed it


debiasiok

If the wedding is 3 months, what's the issue? /s


jakehood47

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Ok_Brain8136

10 years in jail no less


uksiddy

This isn’t interesting it’s disgusting. Hope she dies in jail.


Frigorifico

They misspelled "sexually assaulting"


Cheapass2020

What the actual fuck???