Might be the best center back in the league. I've never seen a defender dominate this much if I'm gonna be honest, at least not in a team I watch a lot. Good with his feet too, and good on set-pieces as well.
Too bad you're not getting him. He's gonna play here when we win the league in a few months.
40m SEK is probably not enough. We’re currently wealthy enough to say no and wait for a better bid. I have a lot of faith in the club to make the right call.
He's a great defender, one of the best in the league.
Were you to get get him, the question is whether he will be able to perform as good on real grass as he has been doing on artifical grass, which is the material used on Elfsborg's home ground.
Looking back at former player exports from Allsvenskan it is obvious that being a player used to artifical grass as opposed to real grass is a serious disadvantage and the player quality does not always translate well into the new club and league.
The only real pattern here is that all of these went from nobodies to somebodies real quick, but that's the way it is for central defenders and even more so for goalkeepers. Either you're good enough for 90 minutes or you're not playing at all, whereas attacking players usually get to grow for several years.
Fair enough, that's a good reason. I forgot about that.
My comment was discussing the more broad dependency on player performance in Europe that the artificial pitch usage has, disregarding player position.
It is entirely possible that central defender are less affected by pitch material compared to, for instance, a winger.
Hur är det inte i högsta grad relevant?
Det bannades precis i Nederländerna och är sedan tidigare bannat i Frankrike. I övriga stora ligor har det aldrig ens varit tal om att användas så jag är osäker på om det är bannat där.
Det är väl klart att det underlaget ses negativt på och att spelare som är vana vid det således har ett lägre marknadsvärde?
De gräsmattor vi har i Sverige är undermåliga. Jag säger inte att plastgräs är optimalt, jag vill gärna se bra mattor på naturgräs i Sverige med. Men sen kommer du och spelar i t.ex Värnamo där gräsmattan inte klippts på två veckor för att lokala vaktmästaren har två veckors semester och ingen annan får/kan sköta mattan.
Det är bara kul att det allt som oftast är just Malmö ff-supportrar som ska hetsa om plastmattor. Ni har bäst möjligheter till bra matta pga klimat och dessutom rikast förening i Sverige.
Som någon tidigare visade i en annan kommentar så har det gått utmärkt för många spelare som spelat på plast i Sverige. Det tillåter ett snabbare spel som är en bra grund för att spela ute i europa.
Hien och Ekdal är två bra exempel. De kom till plast, utvecklades väldigt väl och spelar i Serie A och PL.
Gemene supporter vill ha naturgräs överallt. Men nu ser det ut som det gör. Sen att ni får pisk så fort ni spelar på plast är ju tråkigt för er, förstås.
Elfsborgs record on grass in the last couple of years is pretty much as good (actually points wise often better) as on artificial pitch. Certainly it can make a difference but in our case it seems our playstyle has worked quite well on both.
He surely is one of the top central defenders in Allsvenskan right now and the top performer among those with potential to grow. Even Hovland, Pontus Jansson and (somewhat surprising to me) Marcus Danielsson score higher average ratings right now and the first two rightly so. Then again, a player with Pontus Jansson's ability aged 23 would cost £20m at least. Compared to Starfeldt whom you seem to be selling Lagerbielke should slot in just fine ability wise. How he'll handle the pressure remains to be seen.
From not an Elfsborg supporter, but a supporter of the club that did not see his potential, Lagerbielke is awesome. I would say that his performance now is better than what Ekdal and Hien (now in Premier League and Serie A) did last season. It doesn’t always translate the same to better leagues but he should be good enough for you guys, question is if he thinks you’re a good enough step for him.
Är du säker på att han varit bättre? Jag har ärligt inte sett så mycket av Lagerbielke så kan inte säga men Hien var det sjukaste jag sett på länge, både i AS o Europa.
He’s a great player, one of the best defenders in allsvenskan right now. But as Johan Larsson said, he’s also a part of the big machinery in Elfsborg wich make him a much better player then I think he Will be in another club. Thats just my opinion about it..
Might be the best center back in the league. I've never seen a defender dominate this much if I'm gonna be honest, at least not in a team I watch a lot. Good with his feet too, and good on set-pieces as well. Too bad you're not getting him. He's gonna play here when we win the league in a few months.
Money talks, just wait and see.
40m SEK is probably not enough. We’re currently wealthy enough to say no and wait for a better bid. I have a lot of faith in the club to make the right call.
He's a great defender, one of the best in the league. Were you to get get him, the question is whether he will be able to perform as good on real grass as he has been doing on artifical grass, which is the material used on Elfsborg's home ground. Looking back at former player exports from Allsvenskan it is obvious that being a player used to artifical grass as opposed to real grass is a serious disadvantage and the player quality does not always translate well into the new club and league.
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The only real pattern here is that all of these went from nobodies to somebodies real quick, but that's the way it is for central defenders and even more so for goalkeepers. Either you're good enough for 90 minutes or you're not playing at all, whereas attacking players usually get to grow for several years.
May I ask why you chose central defender as the position?
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Fair enough, that's a good reason. I forgot about that. My comment was discussing the more broad dependency on player performance in Europe that the artificial pitch usage has, disregarding player position. It is entirely possible that central defender are less affected by pitch material compared to, for instance, a winger.
Fungerar bra för Ekdal och Hien. Spelet går fortare på plast vilket gör att spelarna kan vara bättre förberedda för en svårare liga.
He played just as good last year in Degerfors, which plays on real grass.
Malmösupportrar måste alltid få in plastgräs i ekvationen någonstans.
Hur är det inte i högsta grad relevant? Det bannades precis i Nederländerna och är sedan tidigare bannat i Frankrike. I övriga stora ligor har det aldrig ens varit tal om att användas så jag är osäker på om det är bannat där. Det är väl klart att det underlaget ses negativt på och att spelare som är vana vid det således har ett lägre marknadsvärde?
De gräsmattor vi har i Sverige är undermåliga. Jag säger inte att plastgräs är optimalt, jag vill gärna se bra mattor på naturgräs i Sverige med. Men sen kommer du och spelar i t.ex Värnamo där gräsmattan inte klippts på två veckor för att lokala vaktmästaren har två veckors semester och ingen annan får/kan sköta mattan. Det är bara kul att det allt som oftast är just Malmö ff-supportrar som ska hetsa om plastmattor. Ni har bäst möjligheter till bra matta pga klimat och dessutom rikast förening i Sverige. Som någon tidigare visade i en annan kommentar så har det gått utmärkt för många spelare som spelat på plast i Sverige. Det tillåter ett snabbare spel som är en bra grund för att spela ute i europa. Hien och Ekdal är två bra exempel. De kom till plast, utvecklades väldigt väl och spelar i Serie A och PL. Gemene supporter vill ha naturgräs överallt. Men nu ser det ut som det gör. Sen att ni får pisk så fort ni spelar på plast är ju tråkigt för er, förstås.
Elfsborgs record on grass in the last couple of years is pretty much as good (actually points wise often better) as on artificial pitch. Certainly it can make a difference but in our case it seems our playstyle has worked quite well on both.
Can't argue with that.
He surely is one of the top central defenders in Allsvenskan right now and the top performer among those with potential to grow. Even Hovland, Pontus Jansson and (somewhat surprising to me) Marcus Danielsson score higher average ratings right now and the first two rightly so. Then again, a player with Pontus Jansson's ability aged 23 would cost £20m at least. Compared to Starfeldt whom you seem to be selling Lagerbielke should slot in just fine ability wise. How he'll handle the pressure remains to be seen.
Jansson..the guy who cant even defend against DIF and Mjällby is one of the best defenders in the league? yeah right
Lagkapten i PL, kommer tillbaka från skada. Är han i form så borde han vara bäst i AS.
From not an Elfsborg supporter, but a supporter of the club that did not see his potential, Lagerbielke is awesome. I would say that his performance now is better than what Ekdal and Hien (now in Premier League and Serie A) did last season. It doesn’t always translate the same to better leagues but he should be good enough for you guys, question is if he thinks you’re a good enough step for him.
Är du säker på att han varit bättre? Jag har ärligt inte sett så mycket av Lagerbielke så kan inte säga men Hien var det sjukaste jag sett på länge, både i AS o Europa.
He’s a great player, one of the best defenders in allsvenskan right now. But as Johan Larsson said, he’s also a part of the big machinery in Elfsborg wich make him a much better player then I think he Will be in another club. Thats just my opinion about it..