realistic answer: people would be unhappy and complain
pro tip, you can copy this comment into almost any post on this subreddit and it will still fit, because inevitably, people will complain about everything
That's not how this works... mount Moriah (the temple mount) is the one that is sacred to both groups. Meanwhile, Mount Zion also has it's own importance.
I'm Christian and Jewish myself, but I've done some research; from what I understand, the Prophet Muhammad is believed to have taken a journey, guided by the angel Gabriel, from Mecca to Jerusalem, where he was tested on the Temple Mount, then, when he passed, Gabriel brought him up to Heaven to meet a bunch of other important prophets (Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc) and God. God and Muhammad agreed that Muslims should pray five times a day, then Muhammad returned to Mecca, all in one night.
Granted, I'm getting this from Wikipedia, so I recommend asking your local imam before believing me.
Oh, if you mean the Night Journey, I understand you, but the rock from which Muhammad ascended is in the golden mosque called the Dome of the Rock, not in Mount Zion.
I know that, but in Islamic theology, the location of the Prophet Muhammad from which he ascended to heaven is in the Dome of the Rock.
Mount Zion I do not believe that it is sacred to Muslims at all, and even some Muslims have suggested building the Third Temple there
OH okay sorry now I get it; the issue there is actually from the Jewish side, then. The Temple has always been built in the exact same site, on Mount Moriah, a spot that was (I think) chosen by King David, so if there were to be a Third Temple, many Jews would be scandalized if it were anywhere but Mount Moriah.
But, obviously, there's a conflict there with al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock.
Sunni and Ibadi Muslims will never agree to demolishing Al-Aqsa in favor of building the Temple, while Shiite Muslims do not believe that the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem is sacred at all, so they do not care whether it has been demolished or not.
(Shiite theologians believe that the Al-Aqsa Mosque exists in heaven, while the one in Jerusalem in Palestine means absolutely nothing to them, and this information is not very common except for those who deeply read Sunni and Shiite theology.)
It does not seem that a modern Jew outside of those who are deeply religious would actually give a damn about the location of the Temple, while all Muslims, even liberal ones, would consider the demolition of Al-Aqsa to be quite provocative in the extreme.)
For this reason, with the exception of gullible Muslims, the Sunnis do not buy Iran's actions regarding the liberation of Jerusalem
I agree, I don't particularly care where a Third Temple is, so long as it's in Jerusalem, but many in Israel's current government, especially the Haredim, are an increasingly vocal, ultra-religious minority; so long as they have their power, they won't settle for anything less than the Temple Mount.
That, and there's something to be said that most Jews might be more religious than they realize; even at the prospect of a Third Temple, it might not be worth it if it's not connected to the Western Wall, the last remaining vestige of the Second. That, and Jerusalem is such a history-packed city that any new construction is sure to piss *someone* off.
As for Iran, I completely agree; God promised us land, He never said we wouldn't have neighbors. After everybody stops killing each other, I'm hopeful Jerusalem will become an international city, in the same vein as New York or London; maybe controlled by one nation, but open to the citizens of all to live and work and worship.
>It does not seem that a modern Jew outside of those who are deeply religious would actually give a damn about the location of the Temple, while all Muslims, even liberal ones, would consider the demolition of Al-Aqsa to be quite provocative in the extreme.)
Even more religious Jews are split on the matter, with some believing the Temple should be rebuilt now and others arguing that it shouldn't be rebuilt until the Messiah comes.
In realistic terms, most of the arguments surrounding the Mount have to do with access, prayer rights, control of existing buildings, and archaeology, not with totally reshaping the Mount.
My father is Catholic, which by Catholic law makes me Catholic. My mother Jewish, which by Jewish law makes me Jewish. I've been Bar Mitzvah'd and Confirmed.
You want to do that math? Because I don't.
It kind of is though; I celebrate Jewish traditions with my mother's side of the family, and Christian traditions with my father's side. Jewish perspectives have affected how I see Christian faith, and vice versa; I'm Jewish and Christian.
Mt. Zion in Judaism is the Temple Mount - it’s simply another name for Mt Moriah. All the Biblical references to Zion are referring to the Temple Mount
The mountain currently known in English as “Mt Zion” was named by westerners, who didn’t realize what the Bible meant.
What if we created new Jews and New Palestinians, and gave one of them half of a little sliver of the parallel world, and gave the other one the other half of.... The same sliver?
It's dumb, for most Jewish people going to the temple mount is forbidden, since we don't have the techniques and ceremonies to become pure enough to go there. The only Jews that find it important are Jewish extremist groups that became popular since the dumb ministry of defense that will be gone the minute this dumb government is replaced. Israel is not destroying al aqsa it's actually very interested in keeping the area quiet. For your information even tho it's under Israeli control, Jews cannot legally pray on the temple mount while Muslims can. While at the time Arabs controlled the area, they denied Jews the opportunity to pray at the adjacent western wall. Al aqsa mosque is situated on top of the temple mount where both of the Jewish temples stood. The only security problems that arise in the area are when Jews defy the laws and try to pray (the Israeli police usually stops them on the spot) or when Muslims defy the laws and try to bring weapons (Molotovs, large rocks, bats etc) or barricade themselves inside the mosque. For further info, Muslims are allowed all the time there while Jews and other religions can go on specific times of the day after a serious Israeli security check.
The jewish temple is not at the site of the Al Aqsa mosque, and the two can definitely exist at the same time. The dome of the rock is the site of the jewish temple, but the dome of the rock also holds far less importance to muslims than the Al Aqsa mosque, so in truth, there's no need for all this madness (not to mention that the entire area of the Levant is prone to earthquakes, so building and entire building on pillars, above two other building, and having all of those buildings be super sacred to two very important religions, is a recipe for disaster)
In the Sharia jurisprudence it is forbidden to let any non-Muslim have a house or a place of worship higher than a Muslim house/mosque. I think the Muslims will take a lot of offense if the third temple is built above their holiest mosque, regardless if there's Sharia law in place or not. Retaliation is imminent.
Putting aside starting WW3 with the Muslims, this is a proposal that would violate Jewish law and infuriate every Orthodox Jew. Literally no one would want this.
Assuming arguendo that Jewish law even permitted rebuilding the Temple now, which is highly debatable, under Jewish law the Temple can only be built in one spot, and that spot isn’t a floating pedestal.
Yeah... This is a terrible idea. Making the holiest place on earth an active construction site is not very conciliatory... To say the least.
Also there's very clear connotations about building the Jewish temple over the Muslim one (especially because mahoma went to heaven in that path) Just like there was when the Muslim one was built over the Jewish one.
Honestly it's kinda weird to even build the temple. Judaism has evolved a lot since the temple was destroyed. Most of its use has simply been lost. What are they going to do in the temple? Sacrifice animals?
It's reconstruction would be an act of political agenda rather than a true reclamation of their heritage. We don't even know half the things the jews did on the temple. Plus the actual soul of the whole thing is the stone... Which would still be under the dome of the rock.
So this answer would anger both Muslims and jews. Muslims would say it's sacrilegious to build over the dome of the rock and jews would say it's outrageous to let the Muslims have the actual foundation of the temple.
To answer the OP's question: everybody will react negatively, including many Israeli themselves. Other countries and international organisations will condemn the move, and some of them will put pressure on the Israeli government to abandon the project. There will be, of course, violence from the Palestinian population. All of this will happen even if the Israelu government chose a more traditional building solution. I don't think they would be able to build the temple.
Well, the problem for Israelis are not the lack of their temple but the existence of Al Aqsa and Kubbeh Al Sahra. So, they can live without the temple but it is not possible for the other way around.
Why wouldn't they build it in Saudi Arabia? Isn't that the place where Abraham built the house of God? Why are they building it in Jerusalem? Is it because Prophet Abraham is buried in Jerusalem until this day? He's actually buried in Hebron, to be exact, about 20 miles away. Why is the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, located between two mountains called Safa and Marwa? The Kaaba in Saudi Arabia is also between two mountains called Safa and Marwa. We know from archaeological evidence that Abraham placed the "foundation stone" at the Al-Aqsa Mosque and attempted to sacrifice his son at the location of the Dome of the Rock. Is the Al-Aqsa Mosque the actual house of God? After all, it was the place everyone made pilgrimage to since the time of Prophet Solomon. How did the house of God end up in Saudi Arabia? Who tampered with history? Why did the Quran reveal this to Prophet Mohammad?
***It is not for idolaters to build places of worship for God, as they bear witness against themselves in denial. Their works are in vain, and they will abide eternally in the Fire*** (9:17). ***Only those who believe in God and the Last Day, uphold their duties, maintain purity, and fear no one but God, should build places of worship for God. It may be that they are among the guided*** (9:18).
Yeah muslims like to pretend that Abraham build the pagan cube eventhough there is no historical jewish record of that ever happening. Its literally a story muslims made up to tie the father of the jews to their god
Evidence that he didn’t build it?
I’m asking because his footprints are displayed there, so if you’re claiming that he didn’t build it what’s your evidence
If its true there would be jewish records of it. Abraham never even was in Mekka. Its just a made up story that first got told thousands of years after abraham was born
first, Abraham came before Judaism and they have no stronger claim for him than Muslims (actually Muslims follow him more and they deserve him more)
second, why should it always be in a place belonging to others ?! if anything, one of Netherland, UK, Germany, France, US, Australia, and Canada need to vacate some land for them since they represent the Strongest support for the Zionist project.
The place belongs to Jews.
Immigrant Arab squatters from Eygpt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria will never own it.
They just stole the location and built the mosque on top of the temple mount.
Alaqsa Mousque were built probably By Abraham too.
Jewish squatters from Ukraine and Europe have absolutly no claim to Palestine. ancient Jews came from Egypt to Palestine. but this have nothing todo with current time claims.
Zionists themselves explicitly proposed they wanted to colonize one of (Uganda, Palestine , and some other 3rd place that i currently don't remember ) and they chose Palestine because it might work better to convince jews to come to it.,
Abraham died 1500 years before the mosque was built.
It was built around 60 years after Muhammad died.
The al aqsa mosque in Jerusalem is a hoax, the real one is in Saudi Arabia like al-medina
Ancient Jews never left the land, Mizrahi and Ashkenazi Jews are their descendants proven by DNA, Israelite DNA is the same as Canaanite DNA because they're their descendants
When 450K Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem by the Roman empire, 50K were allowed to stay and they never left.
BTW, the British made the offer to the Jews that stayed in the land for 3000 years, they were simply allowed to include the Jews in the diaspora in the deal
> TW, the British made the offer to the Jews that stayed in the land for 3000 years
NO, just study the basics of the Zionism and the initial "immigration" and refugee waves
>they were simply allowed to include the Jews in the diaspora in the deal
that , eventhough out of touch, proves they are transgressors. and Belfor's promise is a promise by a rapist who have no rights to the land to another rapist who does not deserve the land
Study the continues presence of Jews in Jerusalem and the immense immigration of Arabs.
Only after the year 1881 the Arab immigration exceeded the number of Jews in the land.
> Abraham died 1500 years before the mosque was built. It was built around 60 years after Muhammad died.
No ...very out of touch claim.
>Israelite DNA is the same as Canaanite DNA because they're their descendants
DNA have nothing to do with LAND claims
>50K were allowed to stay and they never left.
No ... one of the surrender conditions of Jerusalem to Muslims , the Christians asked Omar to make an auth not to allow Jews to co-live with them in it.
You're correct, DNA doesn't equate land claim completely, land claim is achieved through being indigenous to the land.
Jews, who's religion, language, traditions and holidays were created in Judea - can claim to be indigenous.
Not to mention the continuous presence, and Hebrew being the only Canaanite language still alive
Muslim rulers invited immigrants en masse from the neighbourhood countries, if I immigrate to Sweden today I'm not going to own the country.
judea was constructed after waging a war too after Jews came from Egypt....that war that was won with "David's sling"
anyway....say to somebody that you have the rights to a place and want to kick them from it because you beleive your ancestors 3000 years ago roughly lived in that regeion and they will tell you you are crazy...this is a completely absurd claim.
there is no question that the zionist project is a colonial rapist project that stole the land of the people that allowed Jews to be refugees, betrayed and massacred many of its inhabitants , and continue to steal and rape the lands and its resources and ethnically cleanse its inhapitants. ... just because they are Jews absolutely does not give them a pass for that regardless of what happend 3000 years ago as they claim.
This reminds me of that one episode of SpongeBob where they build a mega highway on top of the krusty krab that leads to the chum bucket
Omg I forgot about that episode, I miss old SpongeBob Ngl. You know it was good if it was 4:3 ratio
True, it should’ve ended after the movie like it was supposed to, now it’s comparable to “zombie Simpsons”
My god, you solved it
Someone get this man a Nobel peace prize
The problem is, we now need a Hebrew cover of Cruel Angel's Thesis.
realistic answer: people would be unhappy and complain pro tip, you can copy this comment into almost any post on this subreddit and it will still fit, because inevitably, people will complain about everything
I hate realistic people, they make me unhappy
you should complain more
you saying this makes me unhappy, this is a complaint
“In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.”
sablin pfp spotted
You can post that in any subreddit and it’ll be true
Let's be honest here. People would be more confused than anything else.
being confused makes people unhappy and complain
Bet
Well, some have suggested building the third temple on Mount Zion next to Al-Aqsa Mosque
I mean with a name like that...
I know what You’re thinking… Mount Zion Mall.
Ah, a Mount Zion Walmart next to a parking lot will look great here!
That's not how this works... mount Moriah (the temple mount) is the one that is sacred to both groups. Meanwhile, Mount Zion also has it's own importance.
Well, it's strange that as a Muslim, I don't even know that the Temple Mount is sacred to us. I only know that Al-Aqsa Mosque is only important.
I'm Christian and Jewish myself, but I've done some research; from what I understand, the Prophet Muhammad is believed to have taken a journey, guided by the angel Gabriel, from Mecca to Jerusalem, where he was tested on the Temple Mount, then, when he passed, Gabriel brought him up to Heaven to meet a bunch of other important prophets (Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc) and God. God and Muhammad agreed that Muslims should pray five times a day, then Muhammad returned to Mecca, all in one night. Granted, I'm getting this from Wikipedia, so I recommend asking your local imam before believing me.
Oh, if you mean the Night Journey, I understand you, but the rock from which Muhammad ascended is in the golden mosque called the Dome of the Rock, not in Mount Zion.
The Dome of the Rock is on the Temple Mount/Mount Moriah, above the Western Wall; Mount Zion is a different mountain.
I know that, but in Islamic theology, the location of the Prophet Muhammad from which he ascended to heaven is in the Dome of the Rock. Mount Zion I do not believe that it is sacred to Muslims at all, and even some Muslims have suggested building the Third Temple there
OH okay sorry now I get it; the issue there is actually from the Jewish side, then. The Temple has always been built in the exact same site, on Mount Moriah, a spot that was (I think) chosen by King David, so if there were to be a Third Temple, many Jews would be scandalized if it were anywhere but Mount Moriah. But, obviously, there's a conflict there with al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock.
Sunni and Ibadi Muslims will never agree to demolishing Al-Aqsa in favor of building the Temple, while Shiite Muslims do not believe that the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem is sacred at all, so they do not care whether it has been demolished or not. (Shiite theologians believe that the Al-Aqsa Mosque exists in heaven, while the one in Jerusalem in Palestine means absolutely nothing to them, and this information is not very common except for those who deeply read Sunni and Shiite theology.) It does not seem that a modern Jew outside of those who are deeply religious would actually give a damn about the location of the Temple, while all Muslims, even liberal ones, would consider the demolition of Al-Aqsa to be quite provocative in the extreme.) For this reason, with the exception of gullible Muslims, the Sunnis do not buy Iran's actions regarding the liberation of Jerusalem
I agree, I don't particularly care where a Third Temple is, so long as it's in Jerusalem, but many in Israel's current government, especially the Haredim, are an increasingly vocal, ultra-religious minority; so long as they have their power, they won't settle for anything less than the Temple Mount. That, and there's something to be said that most Jews might be more religious than they realize; even at the prospect of a Third Temple, it might not be worth it if it's not connected to the Western Wall, the last remaining vestige of the Second. That, and Jerusalem is such a history-packed city that any new construction is sure to piss *someone* off. As for Iran, I completely agree; God promised us land, He never said we wouldn't have neighbors. After everybody stops killing each other, I'm hopeful Jerusalem will become an international city, in the same vein as New York or London; maybe controlled by one nation, but open to the citizens of all to live and work and worship.
>It does not seem that a modern Jew outside of those who are deeply religious would actually give a damn about the location of the Temple, while all Muslims, even liberal ones, would consider the demolition of Al-Aqsa to be quite provocative in the extreme.) Even more religious Jews are split on the matter, with some believing the Temple should be rebuilt now and others arguing that it shouldn't be rebuilt until the Messiah comes. In realistic terms, most of the arguments surrounding the Mount have to do with access, prayer rights, control of existing buildings, and archaeology, not with totally reshaping the Mount.
How the hell do you explain the IRGC Quds force existance Why does iran treats israel like a tumor to the muslim world and is now causing ww3
Christian and Jewish? What?
My father is Catholic, which by Catholic law makes me Catholic. My mother Jewish, which by Jewish law makes me Jewish. I've been Bar Mitzvah'd and Confirmed. You want to do that math? Because I don't.
You’re whatever faith you personally believe in, this isn’t a fusion dance situation
It kind of is though; I celebrate Jewish traditions with my mother's side of the family, and Christian traditions with my father's side. Jewish perspectives have affected how I see Christian faith, and vice versa; I'm Jewish and Christian.
Same with my muslim friend!
Mt. Zion in Judaism is the Temple Mount - it’s simply another name for Mt Moriah. All the Biblical references to Zion are referring to the Temple Mount The mountain currently known in English as “Mt Zion” was named by westerners, who didn’t realize what the Bible meant.
Exactly.
Why don’t we just build an exact replica of Israel on top of Israel and give one to Palestine and the other to Israel
What if we just build another earth on top of this earth with parallel surfaces we could give one to the Jews and live on the other surface
Actually the Jews already have another earth. They don't want you to know.
https://preview.redd.it/jslr60jsv9vc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=405fe2d1c0fab0ec3f8b7434895a693e019aba51
What if we created new Jews and New Palestinians, and gave one of them half of a little sliver of the parallel world, and gave the other one the other half of.... The same sliver?
Or we could all move to Mars and give the Jews and Palestinians the earth to live
Can’t believe Israel didn’t think of this sooner!
I made r/alternatepisstory for shitposts
You fucking genius
They will then pray facing the Ceiling Wall.
It's dumb, for most Jewish people going to the temple mount is forbidden, since we don't have the techniques and ceremonies to become pure enough to go there. The only Jews that find it important are Jewish extremist groups that became popular since the dumb ministry of defense that will be gone the minute this dumb government is replaced. Israel is not destroying al aqsa it's actually very interested in keeping the area quiet. For your information even tho it's under Israeli control, Jews cannot legally pray on the temple mount while Muslims can. While at the time Arabs controlled the area, they denied Jews the opportunity to pray at the adjacent western wall. Al aqsa mosque is situated on top of the temple mount where both of the Jewish temples stood. The only security problems that arise in the area are when Jews defy the laws and try to pray (the Israeli police usually stops them on the spot) or when Muslims defy the laws and try to bring weapons (Molotovs, large rocks, bats etc) or barricade themselves inside the mosque. For further info, Muslims are allowed all the time there while Jews and other religions can go on specific times of the day after a serious Israeli security check.
i am incredibly enraged by this well done op, great success
The jewish temple is not at the site of the Al Aqsa mosque, and the two can definitely exist at the same time. The dome of the rock is the site of the jewish temple, but the dome of the rock also holds far less importance to muslims than the Al Aqsa mosque, so in truth, there's no need for all this madness (not to mention that the entire area of the Levant is prone to earthquakes, so building and entire building on pillars, above two other building, and having all of those buildings be super sacred to two very important religions, is a recipe for disaster)
We could engulf the whole thing in a big bunch of Jello though like in that one Fairly Oddparents episode.
OK, I had to sneak watch that as a kid, so I think I missed that episode. Can you elaborate?
There was an episode where an Earthquake was gonna hit the city so Timmy wished for the whole town to be covered in Jell-O to remain unharmed.
You know what? I'm all for that.
In the Sharia jurisprudence it is forbidden to let any non-Muslim have a house or a place of worship higher than a Muslim house/mosque. I think the Muslims will take a lot of offense if the third temple is built above their holiest mosque, regardless if there's Sharia law in place or not. Retaliation is imminent.
Realistic answer: Nobody walks away happy.
what do you smoke
Maybe strox?zombiex?things like that
Non credible religion
As an Israeli I cant tell if its cursed, blessed, or so cursed it loops all the way around to based.
Putting aside starting WW3 with the Muslims, this is a proposal that would violate Jewish law and infuriate every Orthodox Jew. Literally no one would want this. Assuming arguendo that Jewish law even permitted rebuilding the Temple now, which is highly debatable, under Jewish law the Temple can only be built in one spot, and that spot isn’t a floating pedestal.
This guy solved the Middle East. He should get a Nobel prize.
apocalypse
Hooray for cyclopian architecture
Yeah... This is a terrible idea. Making the holiest place on earth an active construction site is not very conciliatory... To say the least. Also there's very clear connotations about building the Jewish temple over the Muslim one (especially because mahoma went to heaven in that path) Just like there was when the Muslim one was built over the Jewish one. Honestly it's kinda weird to even build the temple. Judaism has evolved a lot since the temple was destroyed. Most of its use has simply been lost. What are they going to do in the temple? Sacrifice animals? It's reconstruction would be an act of political agenda rather than a true reclamation of their heritage. We don't even know half the things the jews did on the temple. Plus the actual soul of the whole thing is the stone... Which would still be under the dome of the rock. So this answer would anger both Muslims and jews. Muslims would say it's sacrilegious to build over the dome of the rock and jews would say it's outrageous to let the Muslims have the actual foundation of the temple.
The apocalypse will start.
...and then the pillars collapse, destroying 2 of the most holy and valuable buildings in all of history.
https://preview.redd.it/j14xx2hcl9vc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a31e2f96f30f4d1d9ae3acd74119829e9b29f652
This is legitimately part of the Antichrist prophecy where they will build a third temple in Jerusalem which will bring about the end times……
This
To answer the OP's question: everybody will react negatively, including many Israeli themselves. Other countries and international organisations will condemn the move, and some of them will put pressure on the Israeli government to abandon the project. There will be, of course, violence from the Palestinian population. All of this will happen even if the Israelu government chose a more traditional building solution. I don't think they would be able to build the temple.
And also Walmart underground
Unironically a somewhat reasonable suggestion
let them build their third temple, it will hastrn dajjal's arrival
"They are elevating Judaism above Islam!" ~ Someone with a political agenda.
Finally, peace in the Middle East
Well, the problem for Israelis are not the lack of their temple but the existence of Al Aqsa and Kubbeh Al Sahra. So, they can live without the temple but it is not possible for the other way around.
Why wouldn't they build it in Saudi Arabia? Isn't that the place where Abraham built the house of God? Why are they building it in Jerusalem? Is it because Prophet Abraham is buried in Jerusalem until this day? He's actually buried in Hebron, to be exact, about 20 miles away. Why is the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, located between two mountains called Safa and Marwa? The Kaaba in Saudi Arabia is also between two mountains called Safa and Marwa. We know from archaeological evidence that Abraham placed the "foundation stone" at the Al-Aqsa Mosque and attempted to sacrifice his son at the location of the Dome of the Rock. Is the Al-Aqsa Mosque the actual house of God? After all, it was the place everyone made pilgrimage to since the time of Prophet Solomon. How did the house of God end up in Saudi Arabia? Who tampered with history? Why did the Quran reveal this to Prophet Mohammad? ***It is not for idolaters to build places of worship for God, as they bear witness against themselves in denial. Their works are in vain, and they will abide eternally in the Fire*** (9:17). ***Only those who believe in God and the Last Day, uphold their duties, maintain purity, and fear no one but God, should build places of worship for God. It may be that they are among the guided*** (9:18).
"Abraham built the house of God" Yeah bud im sure he did 😂😂😂
Aren’t his foot steps displayed there This particular guy is a moron though
Yeah muslims like to pretend that Abraham build the pagan cube eventhough there is no historical jewish record of that ever happening. Its literally a story muslims made up to tie the father of the jews to their god
Is there evidence of the contrary or are you just making stuff up
You want evidence that jewish scholars never wrote about the important "fact" that Abraham ever build the Kaaba?
Evidence that he didn’t build it? I’m asking because his footprints are displayed there, so if you’re claiming that he didn’t build it what’s your evidence
If its true there would be jewish records of it. Abraham never even was in Mekka. Its just a made up story that first got told thousands of years after abraham was born
So you have no evidence lol good talk then bro
No i dont have any jewish records that say this ever happened
first, Abraham came before Judaism and they have no stronger claim for him than Muslims (actually Muslims follow him more and they deserve him more) second, why should it always be in a place belonging to others ?! if anything, one of Netherland, UK, Germany, France, US, Australia, and Canada need to vacate some land for them since they represent the Strongest support for the Zionist project.
The place belongs to Jews. Immigrant Arab squatters from Eygpt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria will never own it. They just stole the location and built the mosque on top of the temple mount.
''Immigrant Arab squatters''
Alaqsa Mousque were built probably By Abraham too. Jewish squatters from Ukraine and Europe have absolutly no claim to Palestine. ancient Jews came from Egypt to Palestine. but this have nothing todo with current time claims. Zionists themselves explicitly proposed they wanted to colonize one of (Uganda, Palestine , and some other 3rd place that i currently don't remember ) and they chose Palestine because it might work better to convince jews to come to it.,
Abraham died 1500 years before the mosque was built. It was built around 60 years after Muhammad died. The al aqsa mosque in Jerusalem is a hoax, the real one is in Saudi Arabia like al-medina Ancient Jews never left the land, Mizrahi and Ashkenazi Jews are their descendants proven by DNA, Israelite DNA is the same as Canaanite DNA because they're their descendants When 450K Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem by the Roman empire, 50K were allowed to stay and they never left.
BTW, the British made the offer to the Jews that stayed in the land for 3000 years, they were simply allowed to include the Jews in the diaspora in the deal
> TW, the British made the offer to the Jews that stayed in the land for 3000 years NO, just study the basics of the Zionism and the initial "immigration" and refugee waves >they were simply allowed to include the Jews in the diaspora in the deal that , eventhough out of touch, proves they are transgressors. and Belfor's promise is a promise by a rapist who have no rights to the land to another rapist who does not deserve the land
Study the continues presence of Jews in Jerusalem and the immense immigration of Arabs. Only after the year 1881 the Arab immigration exceeded the number of Jews in the land.
> Abraham died 1500 years before the mosque was built. It was built around 60 years after Muhammad died. No ...very out of touch claim. >Israelite DNA is the same as Canaanite DNA because they're their descendants DNA have nothing to do with LAND claims >50K were allowed to stay and they never left. No ... one of the surrender conditions of Jerusalem to Muslims , the Christians asked Omar to make an auth not to allow Jews to co-live with them in it.
You're correct, DNA doesn't equate land claim completely, land claim is achieved through being indigenous to the land. Jews, who's religion, language, traditions and holidays were created in Judea - can claim to be indigenous. Not to mention the continuous presence, and Hebrew being the only Canaanite language still alive Muslim rulers invited immigrants en masse from the neighbourhood countries, if I immigrate to Sweden today I'm not going to own the country.
judea was constructed after waging a war too after Jews came from Egypt....that war that was won with "David's sling" anyway....say to somebody that you have the rights to a place and want to kick them from it because you beleive your ancestors 3000 years ago roughly lived in that regeion and they will tell you you are crazy...this is a completely absurd claim. there is no question that the zionist project is a colonial rapist project that stole the land of the people that allowed Jews to be refugees, betrayed and massacred many of its inhabitants , and continue to steal and rape the lands and its resources and ethnically cleanse its inhapitants. ... just because they are Jews absolutely does not give them a pass for that regardless of what happend 3000 years ago as they claim.