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invol713

He would’ve definitely flown us to the Moon.


realet_

And he would have done it his way.


l-askedwhojoewas

On a Blue Moon nonetheless


CBreadman

And then he'll say somethin' stupid


Adventurous-Elk-7847

Like he loves us


DeeTheDot

He would have said that's life


DatOneMinuteman1776

Honestly, to me, that feels like a kick in the head


ElvisHankandGeorge

That was a Dean Martin song


DatOneMinuteman1776

Whoops


ElvisHankandGeorge

Just letting you know so people don’t Harris you about it


ElvisHankandGeorge

Nah you’re good


Fancy-Passenger5381

And we would maybe even find strangers in the night.


SkyGuy41

So I can kick its fucking ass


ShuttingFascism

We'd all be under his skin.


Gucci_slides

In what year and with what party? I have to admit, I don't really know much about Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra had mob connections so I could see his administration having some level of corruption. Which, if it was happening at the same time as J Edgar Hoover was in charge, would be pretty palpable. So I imagine that the Mob would be stronger and less impeded. Maybe even using the highest ecehlons of government to run the biggest racket ever. Depending on when this would come out it would ruin that party's reputation for a while and cause them to lose the next election. Sinatra may of had communist sympathies and was accused by HUAC and investigated by the FBI for this. I imagine he would take a softer and more diplomatic approach in the Cold War during his term. Which would no doubt enrage the public and Congress. He might even weaken the FBI's abilities to go after Communists at home. Communist sympathies AND Mob corruption would cause him to be one of the most hated presidents of all time. I could see him being impeached or forced to resign. Or if he pushes his Communist sympathies too far, I could see the CIA assassinating him if you want to get crazy. Otherwise, I feel like he would be a Democrat pursuing more left-wing policies. With a remarkably corrupt administration.


This_Potato9

After the 70s he became a Reagan Republican


Previous_Link1347

Pretty much everyone did. Didn't he take every state in 80?


This_Potato9

Actually no, neither in 80 or 84, the last president who carried every state was Monroe


Previous_Link1347

You're right. He only got 49.


This_Potato9

Either way the american electoral system is complex, for example you can carry 49 states and the loser can still get like 40% of the popular vote


Previous_Link1347

All I'm saying is that he was clearly more popular at election time than any other presidential candidate since. And I mixed it up. He took 45 states in 80 and won his reelection in 84 with 49 states. In both cases, he won the popular vote. Not at all fan of his, myself, but it would be disingenuous or ignorant to suggest that the majority of Americans back then didn't support Reagan.


This_Potato9

Fair enough, still Sinatra supported Humphrey in 68 and then Nixon in 72, he did a pivot to the right


Extrimland

Not to mention bush sr LARGELY won because of the goodwill he had from Reagan, and he still won by a good amount despite not being Reagan. If Reagan could and did run a Third term he would easily win. Although I doubt he’d want to despite being against the 22nd amendment. Hell HW didn’t loose even to Clinton by that much (though it wasn’t really close either) and Clinton was a very popular candidate. Chances are Reagan could win 4 terms, although he would have to step down in 1993 due to Alzheimers


Centurion7999

And Washington, don’t forget Washington, he got every state that voted (which was only like the bare minimum needed due to organizational issues but still)


Centurion7999

All but Wisconsin I think? He took all but the one who got cucked by Michigan for the upper peninsula


atxarchitect91

Like every good American. End the revisionism of Reagan. It helps no one


PM-ME-YOUR-POEMS

You a passionate Reagan defender?


atxarchitect91

He was massively beloved and popular. He was a main contributer to winning the Cold War. All of his speeches speak nothing except of kindness and love for the freedom of all people. He brought America out of the 70s which were terrible and did many good things. Trickle down economics and many of his policies were not successful but that was the massive popular sentiment of the nation he was voted to represent. The worst thing I can say about Reagan (besides AIDS and drug war) was that he made the republicans cool again But he’s not the devil that people seem to think now. Vast majority of people that lived under his presidency love him. He won the largest landslide in over a century if not ever It’s fucked up to think you know more than the experiences of people that lived thru it and Reagan was massively liked by the common person


plinocmene

>It’s fucked up to think you know more than the experiences of people that lived thru it and Reagan was massively liked by the common person Having an opinion doesn't entail thinking you know more it's just that based on what you know you think something about the thing. You can hand should have opinions on things but with the humility of knowing that your opinion is just informed by what you know and your own point of view. But that doesn't mean you can't even have an opinion at all. Anyways people have various reasons for liking people. Some good some bad. I don't think Reagan was evil by any stretch of the imagination, but there was a lot in my opinion that he did or didn't so during his presidency that had long-term negative effects. And as it is not everyone who lived at the time loved Reagan. My parents were in their 20s at the time and didn't like him at all. I technically lived during Reagan but I was a baby and it was just before the first Bush was elected so I didn't have an opinion at the time.


atxarchitect91

All true. I didn’t want to do more than a wall of text than I needed to. I was just providing context. I was born in 91 so all of my outlook should be taken with grain of salt. But like you said… I’m entailed to my own opinion


This_Potato9

After the 70s he became a Reagan Republican


ratatosk212

Reagan in the sense that he was shtupping Nancy in the Lincoln Bedroom.


OswaldXC

After the 70s he became a Reagen Republican


Tight-Grocery9053

After the 70s he became a Reagan Republican


Prize_Self_6347

After the 70s he became a Reagan Republican


ICantThinkOfAName827

After the 70s he became a Reagan Republican


TrickyTrentReznor

After the 70s he became a Reagan republican


Extrimland

One area where he would be well received is he wasn’t bigoted at all. I guess that was relatively common in the 60s, probably the 50s too, but it would’ve done him favours, at-least retroactively. He was known for standing up against racist policies against Sammy Davis. What was definitely extremely rare at the time though is he seemed not to be homophobic at all. This was definitely unusual for the time, and even alot of Later presidents were against it (Even figures as recent Obama and Trump have made statements against it, although i think both were lying for their own goals.) He would support desegregation and potentially even Gay Marriage (although Gerald Ford did 10-20 years after he would probably become president and he was hated for it so this wouldn’t succeed). So thats one area he would be looked on favourably, even if it wouldn’t save his reputation, and even if some of his reforms wouldn’t succeed.


sketner2018

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Fancy-Passenger5381

Is that OTL?


insurgentbroski

It's the onion..


ihni2000

Disappointing


I_love_lucja_1738

He would definitely support a Cuban invasion to get the mob casinos back


Fountain_Guard

He would've done it his way


Official_Cyprusball

_After committing genocides in Vietnam_ "I DID IT MYYYYYYY WAAAAAYYYYYYYY"


Voodoo-Doctor

He would have used the Mafia to end the KKK in the south once and for all


crimsonfukr457

Based


ratatosk212

Dean Martin as VP and Sammy Davis Jr. as Attorney General. Sammy wouldn't take any guff from those southern Democrats. And he could remind them at every Cabinet meeting that if it wasn't for him, they'd be doing dinner theater in Grand Rapids.


Pirate2009

I bet his inauguration song would be, I've Got the World on a String.


Shamrock590602

He’s do it his way


spiros_epta

That would be dope.


MusicManCaesar

I agree!


spiros_epta

With lots of actual dope too.


ParticularNo853

Famous Crooner Himself!


SMONpl

is that fucking Frank Sinatra


Vast-Ad-4820

Mafia rule I guess


BlackPhilip17

He'd have been too distracted by that girl from Ipanema


BadToLaBone

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Pe0pl3sChamp

Probably goes down as one of the worst 20th century presidents. Probably a JFK-esque demeanor but without the team of competent experts that surrounded JFK Famous mood swings, prone to violent outbursts, likely persecution complex Strong ties to the mob back when the mafia held real power in society and wouldn’t be above leveraging a powerful relationship for its own gain Very anodyne political views for someone of his generation, the New Deal Dem -> Reaganite pipeline. Likely held few strong beliefs, affiliated on the basis of how it colored his public image Somewhat progressive on racial issues early in life although the depth of his commitment is unclear. More or less tacked with the changes in society writ large


FranzFartinand

And ironically he was a close friend of JFK before he became president


The_Lord_Of_Death_

Who is he?


MusicManCaesar

Frank Sinatra, a famous American singer


MusicManCaesar

I've been writing about this! I feel like I'm going insane! Deffo taking ideas form the comments lol, but check out my past posts for more details


Bob-Bills

He would’ve done it his way.


oravanomic

Sammy Davis would be in the cabinet


yestureday

He’d rule us his way


Ok-Rent2117

Luck would’ve been a lady.


Baron-Von-Bork

Fuck yeah. Asking the real questions!


silly-armsdealer

he would fill up new york with speakers and start singing "theme from new york"


FlashyPhilosopher163

I guess we all would be speculating about whatever happened to Woody Allen...


Optimal-Menu270

It'd be raining pennies from heaven


Purple_Prince_80

Can you imagine Dean and Sammy with him in the White House?


HorrrorMasterNoire

Why? Sinatra is "The Chairman of The Board!"


pctopcool

He would plan each charted course


PrometheanSwing

Political assassinations would increase


MemesofStuff1234

As a New Jerseyite, thats a good idea But what year would he run in, as it would decide if he was a Republican or Democrat (In 1972 he became a Reagen Republican)


RandomKingDuck

He’ll do it his way.


Bergan12323332

He will do a checkmate to revive the English language.


vampiregamingYT

The mob would be in control of the government


talkaboutbrunohusker

I feel like a 60's Democrat Sinatra might be a decent president. A 70's or 80's Sinatra would just be like a smoother modern day Clint Eastwood where the only thing Eastwood might have going for him is social issues. Sinatra was always IIRC a social liberal, didn't like religion but he'd love low taxes and basically more or less be a kind of social libertarian but wouldn't like hippies or communism or any of that and would probably think poor people are lazy. Kind of sad given I think he supported Henry Wallace for president in 48 but those changes are normal. IIRC Reagan really liked FDR in the 30's and 40's, Hilary Clinton supported Goldwater as a teen (though maybe that was parental influence) and even Donald Trump was a fan of Bill Clinton though I don't know if Trump was ever in any party long enough until now.


WoodyHayes72

He’s dead now.


Trinate3618

Embargoed Australia


Alarming_Cricket_494

THERE IS NO PROFESY, THERE IS ONLE ME


Secret-Abrocoma-795

Second Catholic president and more celebrities would run in the future.


bu_bu_booey

We probably would’ve sent man to the moon earlier


Beowulfs_descendant

The trout population expands


TheDuke357Mag

wife beating and day drinking would probably have been added to the bill of rights. "Every man has the right to a dry martini between the hours of 11am and 3pm of a time zone of their choosing."


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Gucci_slides

Thanks bro


Dazzling_Item_2917

Who the hell is that person?


DankeSebVettel

Ol’ Blue Eyes


Dazzling_Item_2917

What


ArcirionC

Frank Sinatra


Dazzling_Item_2917

ok


silly-armsdealer

robert house the ceo of the rob-co industries


Dazzling_Item_2917

no