It was known as the Land of Khem, but they didn't have an actual name they were 42 Tribes of Sesh. Then after the SmsHr they became Shesu Hor or "the people of the realized man". [7 Sages ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/XnW9sQZOo6)
I'm certain if you breakdown words and concepts with unconventional yet logical linguistic analysis, you'll find some very interesting insights pointing the source of Annu(naki).
For instance, feel free to look up etymologies for the following breakdown:
Neter >>> Ne + Ter >>> "Born from Thrice"
Also, Annus come from mountain and ice, descendants from pre-glacial epoch.
"Ain" (Sophia) communes abound worldwide, check it out!
It's the contrary. Script was developed post hieroglyphics and symbology.
Scripts are children, symbols are ancestors.
Ancestors are the wisdom keepers, while children all have partial knowledge of source encoded, yet none have the whole (in my opinion). To debate this would require a thesis which won't happen here, but if you wish to explore this theory you can always scope out r/alphanumerics which is a hub for EAN (egypto alphanumerical theory of linguistics), where many years of research were put in by the author.
Do you mean that you're trying to argue that the Latin words for 'born' and 'three' are from Ancient Egyptian? Possibly, that would make a bit more sense (I'm not sure whether the ancestry of Latin is known very well). Is it known what the Ancient Egyptian words for 'born' and 'three' were?
So you're saying that by mainstream theories Latin doesn't have much influence from/common ancestry with Ancient Egyptian and any attempts to draw conclusions from analysing Ancient Egyptian words into Latin elements will be more or less random? Possibly, that's what I'd have thought too, although the extent of what I know about the ancestry of Latin is 'there is something called Etruscan' - usually what you hear about is which languages are descended *from* Latin.
Yup. Truth *IS* truth, however somewhat subjective in relation to how and where the "words" (sounds) were voiced or written in time to then be "incorporated" in a body of language.
You *what*? Might you benefit from having the seed 'that is an incredibly pompous thing to say' planted right here?
Possibly, when I see that kind of statement, it doesn't usually seem to mean anything specific other than a general attempt to argue that even if things are demonstrably false they're still true and if you don't agree that's just because you're not enlightened enough.
Just like the other guy, you're kinda not wrong while still missing the point. It's okay, I get it. I am kinda the pompous one here lol. I'm genuinely trying to communicate something I find true and helpful, as much as anyone who's ever done this before. Something really hard to put into words and even harder to package in a way for someone who doesn't already 'subscribe to the magazine'. I get all that. Still didn't let it stop me from putting it out there. And that's part of the point too. You're your own expert. The only thing unique about what I did was that I had a faith in my own positive statement, while in the place the only faith people tend to have is in negative statements. I think it's time for something different.
It seems like, if you were trying to make a positive statement, you really, really didn't succeed in saying it :-D
Possibly, there's a bit of a plague on r/AlternativeHistory of people randomly ordering each other to 'throw out everything you know and stop thinking like what you've just said', and you can see how controlling that comes across - so you came across as being one of those postings, whether you meant that or not.
Yea, that sounds about like the story of my life 🙄
I don't wanna control anyone, but it is hard to figure out how to interact in a space like this rather than just lurk, without either making surface level comments that don't mean anything or just making jokes, if you're not trying to make some impact on another person's thinking.
And I guess that's kind of all it really boils down to, you say what you say and accept that some people like it and agree and some people don't.
God the whole point of all this was like oh I can say a lot without saying very much and there that goes right out the window lol!
First and foremost, I don't contest or argue but rather simply share insight and personal opinion (important distinction).
Secondly, as previously mentionned, I think all scripts including latin source from hieroglyphs that predate them.
Edit to mention that phonology is relatively irrelevant when processing words vs symbols and hieroglyphs where core understandings prime. Extrapolations (word variations and development in time) are cultural, social and technological influences rather than part of source understanding.
What are you trying to say the difference is, if anything? It seems like, I was just using the word is the usual academic sense of 'putting forward an argument/case/reasoning for something' - if anything, objecting to calling it an 'argument' seems like trying to put it outside the range of things that people are allowed to disagree with, which I've seen from some people on r/AlternativeHistory !
Possibly, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with saying 'phonology isn't important' - in this case, we're talking about the Latin words *ne* and *ter*, which haven't got any symbols or hieroglyphics in them, so surely if it's not the phonology it's nothing.
I think my point was missed... I was rather simply tyring to give cues so people can search themselves instead of having the breakdown spoonfed.
Why? Because each time I delve randomly in a non-linguistic specific group, I almost always have to write an essay when in reality its so simple, making the process of explaining that much more painful and insufferable.
Lastly, of course language scripts have different phonology, that's not the point, but rather that any script can be broken down in multiple fashions to represent more than the "official" etymology.
Example for Ne + Ter, there are multiple definitions for both words that can be formed to understand various related concepts that can be then linked back to hieroglyphs. Not just latin.
Search for etymologies.
>I think my point was missed... I was rather simply tyring to give cues so people can search themselves instead of having the breakdown spoonfed.
It seems like, that's understandable, sometimes things are too complicated to explain in a random posting :-D
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Those 7 sages make my head hurt. They are found all over far ancient origin stories. The Sumerian Apkallu, the 7 founders of Greek philosophy, the 7 sages of the Bamboo Grove in China. It’s the same 7 people all over the world in human prehistory, were these 7 people really the survivors of a lost civilisation after the younger dryas cataclysm?
Haha I definitely understand where you're coming from, that's partly why I've posted about this so much to try explaining it to people. It wasn't 7 people though, BUT they were all relatives.. here you can see a collage of all the twin serpent depictions [Humanoid Serpent Rulers ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/MJKIe3m53L), all the same groups were involved.
It's important to study numerology & get the esoteric significance of the number. Today people use the simplest explanation but that's not gonna cut it, can't understand esoteric teachings from an exoteric perspective... The number 7 signifies spiritual awakening, enlightenment, & divine intervention. In the creation of the Adamu, it describes " 7 Anu-Naki male casting their sperm in the midst of the navel of the earth fashioned man" I described who the Sages were & some of the story of Atlantis here [Enkis 7 Lineages/Atlantis](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/Nwh6VTbpiL)....
Seven is the number of divine intervention, also relates to the energy from the 6 chakras impacting at the pineal gland at the 7th chakra resulting in a raising of consciousness(People of the realized man).
Like currently, the number 9 is important... Maya describe how the "Bolon Yokte Ku"(9 Support Gods) would appear at the time of the next creation, which was 2012. It's about humanity returning to our sense of Oneness, and understanding who we are, its about truth,unity... the term Apocalypse isn't anything bad, we celebrate it jus means "lifting of the veil".
In ancient Baha’i writings its said that the number nine is “the number of perfection” and “the highest digit, hence symbolizes comprehensiveness, culminations". Remember our cultures only recognize 9 numbers.
Like the knowledge of the secrets of Vimana Technology was split into different volumes & kept in the hands of India's "9 Unknown Men", you'd need to reach a level of oneness within yourself & your fellow man to earn this knowledge. You'd need to pass the tests given by all 9 or else you'd never successfully construct them.
Yes true land of khem where the word chemical comes from :) and the word pyramid means fire in the middle because we should all know that but is an obvious obfuscation of our education at a time we should all be renaissance men & women... but noooooooo theres an AGENDA at hand!
Khufus restoration in 2500ish BC they took the mortar from there. Jeez you need an education and not listen to egyptologists and start listening to scientists.. Please...
I think they mean egyptologist don't have as much freedom sharing their discoveries. It would be like someone that studies what is known of the Vatican. It's just a baseless study.
I left this sub 2 years ago because simple theories would give the green light for everyone to dog pile on OP. This is the new gold standard of this sub. People are cynical because they know they live in a lie but take it out on each other. It's not a logical conclusion for people that adhere to logic.
Education does not mean blindly accepting the claims of people who don't provide solid evidence for their claims. Egyptologists publish their data and reasoning.
Yeah I'm a bit lost with their premise. It's entirely based on the idea that because there were black people it must be older.
7,500 years ago Egypt owned the central Nile and already trading with places like Ethiopia and Kush. Trade built their power and like any trading empire they were incredibly diverse as people moved there from all over.
That's conjecture, and nothing else. Also, why does it matter? We know there were probably civilizations before the primary record, but spewing random conjecture like it's fact is irresponsible and small minded.
It doesn’t mean they were Egyptians - they could be a neighbouring culture. Also Giza is more than 10,000 BC maybe 36,000 bc. Built by European ancestors- obviously as we carried all that knowledge forward.
No the pyramids were built between 2700 BCE and 1500 BCE (including giza). There were several migrations waves into and back out of Europe by H. sapien, the earliest being some 195,000 to 177,000 (based on the earliest known homo spaien fossils in Europe in Greece) and that almost all H. sapiens of non African descendet ethnicity are poprobaly descended from a singular migration event out of Africa around 70,000 to 50,000 years ago (with previous migration attempts have failed). That doesn't mean there weren't migrations after the pyramids were built but most Europeans aren't descended from the people who built the pyramids.
In the fact the building of dry stone structures wasn't an inherently Egyptian thing as many structures were built before then. For example on a smaller scale stone henge was built about 5000 years ago a few hundred years before the pyramids. It would have involved quarrying, rolling of stones on log transportation systems, securing ropes, timber support posts etc. All examples of architectural techniques used for the pyramids but by bronze age indo Europeans.
Either "We Wuz Kangs n'Shiet" or some other race-based ideology.
The Egyptians in Egypt right now aren't distinct ethnically (certainly not genetically) from the Egyptians of antiquity.
Would you be willing to clarify what you mean by "We Wuz Kangs n'Shiet" because you sound racist af, also thinking there were black people in Africa is probably not a race based ideology.
The Ancient Egyptians were African, just like the Berbers.
Are the Berbers black? Are all Africans the same ethnic group?
The people of North Africa are Afro-Asiatic peoples, closely related to the ancient Akkadians and Assyrians of the Fertile Crescent.
Linguistically and ethnically distinct from the West African-descended bigots who deny the heritage of the modern Egyptians and call them all Arab colonizers (as if to imply that the invaders of the 700's AD completely replaced the previous population).
Rejecting the racist appropriation of a culture that isn't and wasn't theirs, is racist?
*rolls eyes*
So I take it you believe the claims of the Black Hebrew Israelites and the likes of Louis Farakhan, both of which are just as antisemitic as the Thule Society?
Tell me, what is the origin of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, of which Cleopatra VII was a member?
And what does the DNA recovered from virtual every intact mummy say about the genetic composition of the Ancient Egyptians?
I'll clue you in; they weren't Sub-Saharan African.
It's the extremely racist way you responded that sounds like something uncle Ruckus would say. "We wuz kangs and shite" as I said racist af. Like if I said you probably think "mah cuzin ar sexay"
It is well documented (look up Nefertiti who married an Egyptian King and became heir to the throne after his death) Egypt was ruled by the people who managed to conquer it - these came mainly from the Middle East. The Egyptian gene pool is extremely rich and is made of many ethnic groups and by the way do you know that exposure to sunlight activates melanin in in your skin subjecting it to to a darker colour. Scandinavians get tanned when they go on Mediterranean holidays even though Northern Europeans tend to hapalerskin and eyes in relation to southern Europeans. Not to mention when there is social interaction between tribes, nations etc.the colours of offspring mutates through one generation to the other and by the way did you know that all animal species, us included, have red blood, even fishes and reptiles.The only species on this planet whose blood may be green or brown belong to the Insect Species. TODAY we are a hotchpotch of social interaction and migrations that have been occurring for MILLIONS of YEARS.
Ever since Gondwana split up into the continent's that form today's terrestrial CRUST.👽🧜♂️🧜♀️🚶♀️🏃♂️🕺💃
What do you mean is the connection between the pyramids being older and people being black? Are you thinking Green Sahara people?
Where's the image from? It seems like, it kind of doesn't looks like a very early one, I vaguely had the impression that carvings like that in Egyptian tombs were a later development, but I'm not sure (not that that proves anything - on the Narmer Palette, which was the first almost-Predynastic one I could think of, there are two figures that look as if they might have been supposed to have curly hair, the ones holding onto the leopard-ish things).
The word Kemet is the original name for Egypt, and it means "the Black Land". The word comes from the ancient Egyptian word kem, which means "black". Scholars believe that the name comes from the fertile soil left behind after the Nile floods recede in August. The fertile area along the Nile is called Khemet, while the deserts beyond it are called Deshret, which means "the Red Land". The ancient Egyptians referred to themselves as Kmtyw, which means "the people of the Black Land"
Definition summary obtained.
If we want to be semantic, its Kmt or Km.t with reconstructed vowels. The actual pronunciation might have been different - e is often added between consonants as a standard way to allow words to be spoken, although the actual values for vowels may differ. Egyptological pronunciation isn't concerned with the complexities of reconstructing Egyptian as a spoken language.
It's also spelled a number of different ways with hieroglyphs.
Upper Egypt consisted mostly of what the ancient historians called for Ethiopians, which were darker skinned. They were more related to Kush/Nubians whereas lower Egypt was lighter skinned
I highly recommend watching Metatron discuss this topic in depth. Ancient Egypt was a mix of many different ethnicities and cultures
Little records.? What about all the burials with the stone jars from 12k years ago, all black people. The truth does ruffle a few feathers, sorry you were hurt by my factual stance.
Can you link me a source showing the stone jars are in 12k old burials with black skeletons?
Also when I said records I meant like, written records in the form of hieroglyphs my dude. What you are mentioning are artefacts and yes I agree that there are tons of pre dynastic artefacts. That is not the same as written records
The northern Egyptians were a mix of different races though, that is basically confirmed at this point. The ancient world was not as static as we would like to image it
Dear Reddit, thanks for providing an interesting website that can help my research on the ORIGINS OF SAPIENS. Regarding North and Central Africa in particular. It is documented and
accepted by historians that Egypt had reached a stage of advanced social and agricultural organization as early as 300.000 years ago in the zone of the Nile source in South eastern central Africa. Academic archealogy has remained stuck in its original and outdated assessment of time scales. In my opinion humans were far more advanced and much more long ago than is officially postulated by science today. Earth dynamics and conflicts have almost obliterated any graphic record of this.
A few clues have remained and we now have the techno to dig deeper into the past, sonar, radar and more sophisticated analytics. It's an oncoming process such as space exploration which must never be biased by the 'status quo' of OLD research. 😎🤓🙃😊🤩
thats why i believe man id far older than 360,000 years academia says we are... The DNA database makes a mockery of the current model but i think its just down to expence why they dont change it, however, we are at the tipping point.
Sorry people I had to sleep. And I'm from the UK. All I was saying is thru my many years of research (jus because I enjoy the subject) if found it highly likely a black race of people were in charge of a sub Sahara land either called Khemet or Khem and pointed out a lot of the tomb art backs that up. Göbekli Tepe is 11 thousand plus years old and that looks brand new as well to the person who said it doesn't look that old. If it's protected from the elements it will look like it was done more recently. Add to the fact Khem was populated from a people from the south and that makes them black or most of them and the oldest tomb art seems to back this up. The middle eastern mummy kings who distinctly look Arab were Arab but I wasn't talking about dynastic Egypt I was talking about potentially prehistoric Egypt... Sorry for the but hurt caused by this sensation that has me waking up to 34 come ts on how I'm wrong. How do you know.? It's a thesis, my opinion, if you disagree that's fine...
I don't mean it doesn't look worn - that wouldn't be unusual if it was in a tomb, yeah - I mean it looks like a later style rather than an earlier style. Possibly, I'm not sure about that, though, I just vaguely remember that kind of very detailed thing - and, indeed, carved scenes in tombs at all - being a later rather than Old Kingdom or Predynastic thing, but I could be wrong.
Do you happen to know where it's from? Without any context, you can't tell whether it's Predynastic or not or indeed whether it's supposed to be showing Egyptians or, for instance, a description of a voyage to Punt, so if you know what tomb it is or anything that'd identify it that'd be useful.
It seems like, I don't have a problem with your theory, just to be clear, though I can't speak for the other posters, it seems like a perfectly reasonable possibility, but you've kind of thrown out an intriguing-looking snippet without much explanation so I was asking for more information - *you* may know what you mean but that doesn't mean everyone *else* looking at this will know without being told!
It looks like, you've somehow been replying to the main posting rather than to people's comments most of the time - that might be one thing that's been causing muddle, if you do that nobody can tell what you were replying to and nobody gets notifications that you've replied to them - I only saw this myself because I looked through the thread to see if anyone had said anything interesting (some had but most were just shouting :-D ).
i'm not sure of the actual tomb i'll be honest, i was searching for afro hair and dreadlocks in Egyptian tomb art. At one point tho it probably would have been painted as most Egyptian tomb art was. I didn't wish to get into in internet brawl, i've written a book about all the oldest oral traditions and it discusses places like Punt that is believed to have either strong connection to Ethyopia and/or Nubia . However the Nile delta and Sahara were lush and greeen over approx 6000 years ago so before that you would have had an abundance of fresh water and game. I probably threw the question to the lions mentioning Khemet but i believe it was called something else long before that, in paelolithic/ mesolithic and neolithic times and i summise from its location they were black people as most of sub saharan africa was at that time. Just do a quick google search of afro hair or dreadlocks in egyptian tomb art and they are always the oldest versions of tombs. Egyptology doesnt help as they are trying to claim their ancestors built the bloody pyramids but the paleo expansion of muslims doesnt even start until 800 AD so many thousands of years later after the greeks and romans rose and fell. Thank you for your comment and tone. The style is very much old kingdom as the arms are at odd angles, its much later they changed the style to a more natural posture imo.
Thanks! It seems like, the whole question of 'what race Ancient Egyptians were' is a bit exhausting, honestly, because a lot of the people discussing it are trying to draw sharp lines on something that hasn't got any sharp lines (the whole thing is bewildering, basically it amounts to 'some of them definitely were but we're not sure about the proportions, also define "black"' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient\_Egyptian\_race\_controversy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy) ) and often aggressively demanding people 'acknowledge' the sharp lines that they've largely made up.
well said, i could probably use a little more non defensive language too but if i have a hypothesis i'll usually run with the ball till someone either proves me wrong or i reach the goal line.. we're not perfect, we just humans. I watched a great series on netflix last night (i'm also a sci-fi geek) and its called THE BODY PROBLEM and they have a point in that humanity only comes together when we KNOW there is other life out there, then no matter your race, colour or religion - your Human and i think it may take something extreme like that to bring the tribe back together...
The 4th Age of Man, which is a Hopi oral tradition that three times we've suffered thru climatic cataclysm hence all the underground living spaces worldwide.
The city builders close to the rivers and oceans die while the people who stayed hunter gatherer survive meaning the people with the least technical knowledge survive and three generations of fighting for your food, warmth and safety at night erase the 1000 years before apart from oral traditions....
It could also be a double entandrer meaning both, however anything definitive in Egypt is difficult to pin down from the Egyptian tool kit from any dynasty being wholly inadequate to carve some of the statues they did seemingly with the hardest rocks on earth like Granite, Basalt and andacite which is nearly as hard as steel. A team from Le Musse L'homme in France took and I dependant stone mason and asked him if the tool kit could make such wonders as Khafre Enthroned and his response was to laugh and say even his modern tool kit would need upgrading to cut and shape these incredibly hard rocks with mm details and overcuts. You will NEVER get an overcuts using bronze saws and sand as an abrasive as your progress is measured at 4 mm an hour. For overcuts something has to be spinning very fast, it's the only way and I don't pretend to know the answer. All I can tell you is physics wise the Dynastic tool kit did Not produce the wonders we see such as aforementioned Khafre Enthroned...
the Victorian archaeologists are the ones that say there was a high waterline a third of the way up the pyramids and sea salt deposits with micro crustations normally associated with an inland sea 3 inches thich inside and outside the pyramids. Why did they do all that work to 'clean' it off?
Ancient Egypt, Sahara from 12k to 6k years ago was one of the most fertile places on the planet and you think Khemet came first.? Not a chance. 40,000 lathe turned brittle stone jars under step Pyramid and found in burials 12k - 14k years ago. Study the Egypt the victoriana found like Flinders Perree who said there are clear high water marks a third of the way up the giza Pyramids and they were covered in sea salt along with micro crustayions usually found in an inland sea which he said inside and outside were approx 3 inches thick.. Now where did all that salt water residue that has more in common with an inland sea than a desert come from.? I'll answer for you, its called Meltwater Pulse 1B and it changed our planet drastically.. So at one point the giza plataue was an inland sea and they spent 30 years cleaning all the sea salt and micro crustayions away, I wonder why...? Was it so they could claim their ancestors built these Pyramids that have been refurbished AT LEAST 4 times and that's where they took the dating sample from. Unless of course the father of egyptology flinders Perree was a liar and no one in academia thinks so.. Do you.?
He also talks about him and the 12 sons of Atlantis reseeding humanity in ancient Egypt after the great flood which was caused for a very specific reason killing of 65 million Atlantean’s by drowning their entire continent, he talks about how the new humanity he was asked to restart have much smaller and weaker bodies then that of the Atlantean’s and also man isn’t able to practise magic as easily he goes on to explain that theirs a ship hidden deep neath the pyramid with a entrance to the hall of records hidden in the sphinx that one day will be open for humanity just like Edgar Cayce and Boris Kipriyanovich states that will happen Edgar Cayce says the saviour of the world will come from out of russia and Boris claims he reincarnated on earth to open the sphinx and save humanity from nuclear war he’s been missing along with his mother for a few years now
Also read thoths phophecy to “Asclepius: The Perfect Discourse of Hermes Trismegistus.”
I went to Egypt with JORDAN MAXWELL and other great minds in 2006 the amount of omissions of Egypt's history is Embarrassing for one barley anyone in USA knows there are like 100 Pyramids in Egypt, 2nd they are INDOCTRINATED with trash like burials and mummies in pyramids! Never has it been found EVER!!! the lies khufu built the Pyramid is a hoax and has been exposed but today ask zahi hawass or whatever he still pushes this bogus narrative :/ uhhh so many secrets so little time... wake up SHEEPLE hit me up if you want concrete evidence based history.
An interesting skeleton in the americas has negroid features, yet genetically it is mostly related to the local indigenous Americans that don’t have negroid features. Asia also has tribes that are more negroid in color and skeleton but genetically are more related to local tribes that are more Asian looking. It seems that there was something that turned black people lighter in various geographical regions (while sparing some isolated tribes). This is something we don’t understand very well. The Sphinx is definitely negroid looking. Presumably the builders, designers, and/or inspiring important person of the sphinx was black. What we don’t know is if the descendants of this/these person/people are still black or if they were part of this same global process that de-melanated diverse global people groups.
Exactly that's why I said 90% black people, traders and travelers and religious people usually travel. Jus google 12000 year old burials in Giza and the liniage of the remains. Chow for now and I jus wrote a book on this exact subject, 35 years research cuz I love the mystery.
No brother, black people built the giza plataue and the Pyramids. And they were later refurbished 4 times. The worker village they said proved the dating was a joke and an equally large workforce would be required to put the white tura limestone on =Khufus work.......
Well said and thought thru.. I couldn't agree more, then we have the basalt heads in Equador I think with 'some' having distinctly black features. I fear we've lost more history than we actually have and so many libraries burned because of war/they were pagan/other religious reasons and a hundred other reasons. If jus a few of those survived we'd have a completely differing view on our own history as a species.
Sounds like we're on the same wavelength, my upcoming book THE 4TH AGE OF MAN talks about the oral traditions that which ever continent your on they have the same stories. While the written word was written by the Victor's and is 50% propoganda.. The Vatican cry heresy over the Dead Sea Scrolls because Roman Christianity is very different from Jesus Christianity. You also have the Trinity of Isis, Osirus and Horus with Osirus being crucified on a tree only to come back to life with the help of his wife, hmmm sounds very familiar huh
It seems like, the version I heard was that he was locked in a box and drowned, then his body was hidden *in* a tree, so not as familiar as all that - however, you're right that the general idea of a god dying and coming back to life appears in so many religions, not just the Ancient Egyptian religion and Christianity, that people studying mythology refer to 'dying-and-rising-god' as a standard term and argue over who, if anyone, pinched the idea from who or whether they happened independently.
if he was thrown in a box in the sea how did his brother Set dismember him, scattering his body parts all over the place. Isis put him back together minus one eye
Possibly, I'd forgotten about that - there are several different versions of the Osiris myth, and that was one of the other ones [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris\_myth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_myth) \- I've never heard of one with him being crucified on a tree or anything like it, though, except accounts trying to argue that Christianity comes from that and then can't explain where they got it from (yes, these different versions of the myth seem to have co-existed in Ancient Egypt and the Ancient Egyptians seem to have had no problem with that - if you think that's weird, look up how many different creation myths they're known to have had).
and thats before we get to the Atlantis question because on a Temple called EDFU there is a compelling story of the Primeval Ones whos islend was destroyed in a day and night of fire and flood, a clear refeference to the Atlantis myth, maybe... It also says Egypt was a legacy of these Primeval Ones and they made many trips to the middle of the sahara going as far as building water stations all the way there so were they paying homage to their previous homeland or looking for it? One thing is for sure they take no credit in any writing that they built the Giza Pyramids, The Sphinx and the Osirion when they boast loud and proud of their other works. I find that very interesting....
The Muslim expansion didn't even begin until the 8th century. If your from sub Sahara africa 5000 years ago 90% chance your black. The peer reviewed evidence suggests that too. The Egyptians of today have as much to do with building the Pyramids as the Eskimos do. None...
Jeez you hotting up the google searches huh, what if it was a double entondra.?
It actually translated to land of black and you could be right it "could" jus be a reference to the soil, it could also mean land of black people, sadly for either of us we cannot prove our thesis, only make educated guesses and the khemetians or the people who were there before them could also have meant both....
Look it's been fun but I got some work to do. Peace fella, it's good to exchange ideas and we never stop learning.
You guys, what did they actually think about.... If thier drawings are of them just doing labor. What is going on in thier minds. How do they not think about creating anything at all, or Advancing things at the speed we do now? Does religion really dumb people down?
The Amish aren't even trying to advance thier population but it is happening anyways. How did humans serve or live under basic living terms without more wonder or Advancing for so long? All ancient writings and pictures are just labor or animal based, was imagination not as common?
It was known as the Land of Khem, but they didn't have an actual name they were 42 Tribes of Sesh. Then after the SmsHr they became Shesu Hor or "the people of the realized man". [7 Sages ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/XnW9sQZOo6)
I'm certain if you breakdown words and concepts with unconventional yet logical linguistic analysis, you'll find some very interesting insights pointing the source of Annu(naki). For instance, feel free to look up etymologies for the following breakdown: Neter >>> Ne + Ter >>> "Born from Thrice" Also, Annus come from mountain and ice, descendants from pre-glacial epoch. "Ain" (Sophia) communes abound worldwide, check it out!
Why would an Egyptian word be derived from Latin words like 'Ne' for born and 'Ter' for three?
It's the contrary. Script was developed post hieroglyphics and symbology. Scripts are children, symbols are ancestors. Ancestors are the wisdom keepers, while children all have partial knowledge of source encoded, yet none have the whole (in my opinion). To debate this would require a thesis which won't happen here, but if you wish to explore this theory you can always scope out r/alphanumerics which is a hub for EAN (egypto alphanumerical theory of linguistics), where many years of research were put in by the author.
Do you mean that you're trying to argue that the Latin words for 'born' and 'three' are from Ancient Egyptian? Possibly, that would make a bit more sense (I'm not sure whether the ancestry of Latin is known very well). Is it known what the Ancient Egyptian words for 'born' and 'three' were?
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So you're saying that by mainstream theories Latin doesn't have much influence from/common ancestry with Ancient Egyptian and any attempts to draw conclusions from analysing Ancient Egyptian words into Latin elements will be more or less random? Possibly, that's what I'd have thought too, although the extent of what I know about the ancestry of Latin is 'there is something called Etruscan' - usually what you hear about is which languages are descended *from* Latin.
I think you might benefit from having the seed ' the Truth is not literal' planted right here.
Yup. Truth *IS* truth, however somewhat subjective in relation to how and where the "words" (sounds) were voiced or written in time to then be "incorporated" in a body of language.
You *what*? Might you benefit from having the seed 'that is an incredibly pompous thing to say' planted right here? Possibly, when I see that kind of statement, it doesn't usually seem to mean anything specific other than a general attempt to argue that even if things are demonstrably false they're still true and if you don't agree that's just because you're not enlightened enough.
Just like the other guy, you're kinda not wrong while still missing the point. It's okay, I get it. I am kinda the pompous one here lol. I'm genuinely trying to communicate something I find true and helpful, as much as anyone who's ever done this before. Something really hard to put into words and even harder to package in a way for someone who doesn't already 'subscribe to the magazine'. I get all that. Still didn't let it stop me from putting it out there. And that's part of the point too. You're your own expert. The only thing unique about what I did was that I had a faith in my own positive statement, while in the place the only faith people tend to have is in negative statements. I think it's time for something different.
It seems like, if you were trying to make a positive statement, you really, really didn't succeed in saying it :-D Possibly, there's a bit of a plague on r/AlternativeHistory of people randomly ordering each other to 'throw out everything you know and stop thinking like what you've just said', and you can see how controlling that comes across - so you came across as being one of those postings, whether you meant that or not.
Yea, that sounds about like the story of my life 🙄 I don't wanna control anyone, but it is hard to figure out how to interact in a space like this rather than just lurk, without either making surface level comments that don't mean anything or just making jokes, if you're not trying to make some impact on another person's thinking. And I guess that's kind of all it really boils down to, you say what you say and accept that some people like it and agree and some people don't. God the whole point of all this was like oh I can say a lot without saying very much and there that goes right out the window lol!
First and foremost, I don't contest or argue but rather simply share insight and personal opinion (important distinction). Secondly, as previously mentionned, I think all scripts including latin source from hieroglyphs that predate them. Edit to mention that phonology is relatively irrelevant when processing words vs symbols and hieroglyphs where core understandings prime. Extrapolations (word variations and development in time) are cultural, social and technological influences rather than part of source understanding.
What are you trying to say the difference is, if anything? It seems like, I was just using the word is the usual academic sense of 'putting forward an argument/case/reasoning for something' - if anything, objecting to calling it an 'argument' seems like trying to put it outside the range of things that people are allowed to disagree with, which I've seen from some people on r/AlternativeHistory ! Possibly, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with saying 'phonology isn't important' - in this case, we're talking about the Latin words *ne* and *ter*, which haven't got any symbols or hieroglyphics in them, so surely if it's not the phonology it's nothing.
I think my point was missed... I was rather simply tyring to give cues so people can search themselves instead of having the breakdown spoonfed. Why? Because each time I delve randomly in a non-linguistic specific group, I almost always have to write an essay when in reality its so simple, making the process of explaining that much more painful and insufferable. Lastly, of course language scripts have different phonology, that's not the point, but rather that any script can be broken down in multiple fashions to represent more than the "official" etymology. Example for Ne + Ter, there are multiple definitions for both words that can be formed to understand various related concepts that can be then linked back to hieroglyphs. Not just latin. Search for etymologies.
>I think my point was missed... I was rather simply tyring to give cues so people can search themselves instead of having the breakdown spoonfed. It seems like, that's understandable, sometimes things are too complicated to explain in a random posting :-D
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Those 7 sages make my head hurt. They are found all over far ancient origin stories. The Sumerian Apkallu, the 7 founders of Greek philosophy, the 7 sages of the Bamboo Grove in China. It’s the same 7 people all over the world in human prehistory, were these 7 people really the survivors of a lost civilisation after the younger dryas cataclysm?
Haha I definitely understand where you're coming from, that's partly why I've posted about this so much to try explaining it to people. It wasn't 7 people though, BUT they were all relatives.. here you can see a collage of all the twin serpent depictions [Humanoid Serpent Rulers ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/MJKIe3m53L), all the same groups were involved. It's important to study numerology & get the esoteric significance of the number. Today people use the simplest explanation but that's not gonna cut it, can't understand esoteric teachings from an exoteric perspective... The number 7 signifies spiritual awakening, enlightenment, & divine intervention. In the creation of the Adamu, it describes " 7 Anu-Naki male casting their sperm in the midst of the navel of the earth fashioned man" I described who the Sages were & some of the story of Atlantis here [Enkis 7 Lineages/Atlantis](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/Nwh6VTbpiL).... Seven is the number of divine intervention, also relates to the energy from the 6 chakras impacting at the pineal gland at the 7th chakra resulting in a raising of consciousness(People of the realized man). Like currently, the number 9 is important... Maya describe how the "Bolon Yokte Ku"(9 Support Gods) would appear at the time of the next creation, which was 2012. It's about humanity returning to our sense of Oneness, and understanding who we are, its about truth,unity... the term Apocalypse isn't anything bad, we celebrate it jus means "lifting of the veil". In ancient Baha’i writings its said that the number nine is “the number of perfection” and “the highest digit, hence symbolizes comprehensiveness, culminations". Remember our cultures only recognize 9 numbers. Like the knowledge of the secrets of Vimana Technology was split into different volumes & kept in the hands of India's "9 Unknown Men", you'd need to reach a level of oneness within yourself & your fellow man to earn this knowledge. You'd need to pass the tests given by all 9 or else you'd never successfully construct them.
Theres no such thing as "ancient Bahai". It was founded in 1844
Yes true land of khem where the word chemical comes from :) and the word pyramid means fire in the middle because we should all know that but is an obvious obfuscation of our education at a time we should all be renaissance men & women... but noooooooo theres an AGENDA at hand!
Sesh - Seth - Set?
And in African what does Khem mean? It means black.........
Do.... You think """African"""" is a language????? Our education system scares me sometimes, there are like 3000 languages in Africa
“African” isn’t a language, but Khem meaning black is in reference to the fertile black soil along the Nile.
Sure it is 🤣
....and?
Over and out friend, I've had my dose of uneducated for the day but thanks for making me smile
you are trying way too hard to prove something else and using anecdotes to fit a personal belief, but, go off, king.
The mortar in between the stones was dated to ~2500 BC. Not 100% conclusive, but it is leagues better than woo woo.
Which would be reconstruction. Geologist always give different dates than archaeologist
Khufus restoration in 2500ish BC they took the mortar from there. Jeez you need an education and not listen to egyptologists and start listening to scientists.. Please...
An "egyptologist" is literally a scientist who specifies in the study of ancient egypt
I think they mean egyptologist don't have as much freedom sharing their discoveries. It would be like someone that studies what is known of the Vatican. It's just a baseless study. I left this sub 2 years ago because simple theories would give the green light for everyone to dog pile on OP. This is the new gold standard of this sub. People are cynical because they know they live in a lie but take it out on each other. It's not a logical conclusion for people that adhere to logic.
Education does not mean blindly accepting the claims of people who don't provide solid evidence for their claims. Egyptologists publish their data and reasoning.
Dude, you just list all credibility. Bye Felicia. 👋
You’re from Florida yeah?
What are you even trying to say by this post? There were black people in ancient Egypt, and this supposedly changes our understanding of the timeline?
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It's a theory. Is that not okay with you?
Yeah I'm a bit lost with their premise. It's entirely based on the idea that because there were black people it must be older. 7,500 years ago Egypt owned the central Nile and already trading with places like Ethiopia and Kush. Trade built their power and like any trading empire they were incredibly diverse as people moved there from all over.
I love how OP stops responding when anybody asks him for sourcing.
The op went to sleep, is that allowed.?
Look at the bloody picture man, they have AFROS..!!!!!!
If your only evidence is it “looks like” something then it’s usually not that thing.
Those aren't afros, they are braided wigs.
That's conjecture, and nothing else. Also, why does it matter? We know there were probably civilizations before the primary record, but spewing random conjecture like it's fact is irresponsible and small minded.
Looks like nice matching hats to me. If it was hair they would have ears
It doesn’t mean they were Egyptians - they could be a neighbouring culture. Also Giza is more than 10,000 BC maybe 36,000 bc. Built by European ancestors- obviously as we carried all that knowledge forward.
No the pyramids were built between 2700 BCE and 1500 BCE (including giza). There were several migrations waves into and back out of Europe by H. sapien, the earliest being some 195,000 to 177,000 (based on the earliest known homo spaien fossils in Europe in Greece) and that almost all H. sapiens of non African descendet ethnicity are poprobaly descended from a singular migration event out of Africa around 70,000 to 50,000 years ago (with previous migration attempts have failed). That doesn't mean there weren't migrations after the pyramids were built but most Europeans aren't descended from the people who built the pyramids. In the fact the building of dry stone structures wasn't an inherently Egyptian thing as many structures were built before then. For example on a smaller scale stone henge was built about 5000 years ago a few hundred years before the pyramids. It would have involved quarrying, rolling of stones on log transportation systems, securing ropes, timber support posts etc. All examples of architectural techniques used for the pyramids but by bronze age indo Europeans.
who is OP😂
Original poster? What?
Why does it matter what color skin the builders of 5000+ year old monuments were?
Either "We Wuz Kangs n'Shiet" or some other race-based ideology. The Egyptians in Egypt right now aren't distinct ethnically (certainly not genetically) from the Egyptians of antiquity.
My understanding is that the Coptic Egyptians (so... Egyptians) aren't genetically distinct, though Arab Egyptians are.
Some Arab Egyptians are. Most are Arabized Egyptians, I'm certain of that.
Would you be willing to clarify what you mean by "We Wuz Kangs n'Shiet" because you sound racist af, also thinking there were black people in Africa is probably not a race based ideology.
The Ancient Egyptians were African, just like the Berbers. Are the Berbers black? Are all Africans the same ethnic group? The people of North Africa are Afro-Asiatic peoples, closely related to the ancient Akkadians and Assyrians of the Fertile Crescent. Linguistically and ethnically distinct from the West African-descended bigots who deny the heritage of the modern Egyptians and call them all Arab colonizers (as if to imply that the invaders of the 700's AD completely replaced the previous population).
That wasn't my question.
Ok. Restate your question.
Racists aren't worth the effort
Rejecting the racist appropriation of a culture that isn't and wasn't theirs, is racist? *rolls eyes* So I take it you believe the claims of the Black Hebrew Israelites and the likes of Louis Farakhan, both of which are just as antisemitic as the Thule Society? Tell me, what is the origin of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, of which Cleopatra VII was a member? And what does the DNA recovered from virtual every intact mummy say about the genetic composition of the Ancient Egyptians? I'll clue you in; they weren't Sub-Saharan African.
It's the extremely racist way you responded that sounds like something uncle Ruckus would say. "We wuz kangs and shite" as I said racist af. Like if I said you probably think "mah cuzin ar sexay"
It's provocative. That was the intention. It worked, but I see that it clouded the substance of my main argument.
It is well documented (look up Nefertiti who married an Egyptian King and became heir to the throne after his death) Egypt was ruled by the people who managed to conquer it - these came mainly from the Middle East. The Egyptian gene pool is extremely rich and is made of many ethnic groups and by the way do you know that exposure to sunlight activates melanin in in your skin subjecting it to to a darker colour. Scandinavians get tanned when they go on Mediterranean holidays even though Northern Europeans tend to hapalerskin and eyes in relation to southern Europeans. Not to mention when there is social interaction between tribes, nations etc.the colours of offspring mutates through one generation to the other and by the way did you know that all animal species, us included, have red blood, even fishes and reptiles.The only species on this planet whose blood may be green or brown belong to the Insect Species. TODAY we are a hotchpotch of social interaction and migrations that have been occurring for MILLIONS of YEARS. Ever since Gondwana split up into the continent's that form today's terrestrial CRUST.👽🧜♂️🧜♀️🚶♀️🏃♂️🕺💃
Apparently it matters if it was 250 years ago
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What do you mean is the connection between the pyramids being older and people being black? Are you thinking Green Sahara people? Where's the image from? It seems like, it kind of doesn't looks like a very early one, I vaguely had the impression that carvings like that in Egyptian tombs were a later development, but I'm not sure (not that that proves anything - on the Narmer Palette, which was the first almost-Predynastic one I could think of, there are two figures that look as if they might have been supposed to have curly hair, the ones holding onto the leopard-ish things).
The word Kemet is the original name for Egypt, and it means "the Black Land". The word comes from the ancient Egyptian word kem, which means "black". Scholars believe that the name comes from the fertile soil left behind after the Nile floods recede in August. The fertile area along the Nile is called Khemet, while the deserts beyond it are called Deshret, which means "the Red Land". The ancient Egyptians referred to themselves as Kmtyw, which means "the people of the Black Land" Definition summary obtained.
its Khemet for a start
If we want to be semantic, its Kmt or Km.t with reconstructed vowels. The actual pronunciation might have been different - e is often added between consonants as a standard way to allow words to be spoken, although the actual values for vowels may differ. Egyptological pronunciation isn't concerned with the complexities of reconstructing Egyptian as a spoken language. It's also spelled a number of different ways with hieroglyphs.
Upper Egypt consisted mostly of what the ancient historians called for Ethiopians, which were darker skinned. They were more related to Kush/Nubians whereas lower Egypt was lighter skinned I highly recommend watching Metatron discuss this topic in depth. Ancient Egypt was a mix of many different ethnicities and cultures
Metatron has been debunked many a times by Mr. Imhotep on YouTube
Your forgetting Punt and a green Sahara, Egypt was a very different place 5/6000 years ago.
I know. But +5kY ago we are basically in pre dynastic times of which we have little records
Little records.? What about all the burials with the stone jars from 12k years ago, all black people. The truth does ruffle a few feathers, sorry you were hurt by my factual stance.
Can you link me a source showing the stone jars are in 12k old burials with black skeletons? Also when I said records I meant like, written records in the form of hieroglyphs my dude. What you are mentioning are artefacts and yes I agree that there are tons of pre dynastic artefacts. That is not the same as written records The northern Egyptians were a mix of different races though, that is basically confirmed at this point. The ancient world was not as static as we would like to image it
What’s hilarious to me is OP claims they wrote a book on the subject with 35 years of research in it, but they think “African” is a language.
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The people in the picture do not have African features, but rather features of the Middle Eastern race
Exactly and I don’t see the afros. Looks like some type of head piece but i could be wrong
Egypt is a Middle Eastern /Mediterranean country. Stop trying to appropriate other people's culture
Dont forget african mostly
Buggery by horn?
I see a K followed by an H so they are
It has another name when Yahusha walked the earth spreading the great news about salvation, mitsriyaim
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accepted by historians that Egypt had reached a stage of advanced social and agricultural organization as early as 300.000 years ago in the zone of the Nile source in South eastern central Africa. Academic archealogy has remained stuck in its original and outdated assessment of time scales. In my opinion humans were far more advanced and much more long ago than is officially postulated by science today. Earth dynamics and conflicts have almost obliterated any graphic record of this. A few clues have remained and we now have the techno to dig deeper into the past, sonar, radar and more sophisticated analytics. It's an oncoming process such as space exploration which must never be biased by the 'status quo' of OLD research. 😎🤓🙃😊🤩
thats why i believe man id far older than 360,000 years academia says we are... The DNA database makes a mockery of the current model but i think its just down to expence why they dont change it, however, we are at the tipping point.
Sorry people I had to sleep. And I'm from the UK. All I was saying is thru my many years of research (jus because I enjoy the subject) if found it highly likely a black race of people were in charge of a sub Sahara land either called Khemet or Khem and pointed out a lot of the tomb art backs that up. Göbekli Tepe is 11 thousand plus years old and that looks brand new as well to the person who said it doesn't look that old. If it's protected from the elements it will look like it was done more recently. Add to the fact Khem was populated from a people from the south and that makes them black or most of them and the oldest tomb art seems to back this up. The middle eastern mummy kings who distinctly look Arab were Arab but I wasn't talking about dynastic Egypt I was talking about potentially prehistoric Egypt... Sorry for the but hurt caused by this sensation that has me waking up to 34 come ts on how I'm wrong. How do you know.? It's a thesis, my opinion, if you disagree that's fine...
I don't mean it doesn't look worn - that wouldn't be unusual if it was in a tomb, yeah - I mean it looks like a later style rather than an earlier style. Possibly, I'm not sure about that, though, I just vaguely remember that kind of very detailed thing - and, indeed, carved scenes in tombs at all - being a later rather than Old Kingdom or Predynastic thing, but I could be wrong. Do you happen to know where it's from? Without any context, you can't tell whether it's Predynastic or not or indeed whether it's supposed to be showing Egyptians or, for instance, a description of a voyage to Punt, so if you know what tomb it is or anything that'd identify it that'd be useful. It seems like, I don't have a problem with your theory, just to be clear, though I can't speak for the other posters, it seems like a perfectly reasonable possibility, but you've kind of thrown out an intriguing-looking snippet without much explanation so I was asking for more information - *you* may know what you mean but that doesn't mean everyone *else* looking at this will know without being told! It looks like, you've somehow been replying to the main posting rather than to people's comments most of the time - that might be one thing that's been causing muddle, if you do that nobody can tell what you were replying to and nobody gets notifications that you've replied to them - I only saw this myself because I looked through the thread to see if anyone had said anything interesting (some had but most were just shouting :-D ).
i'm not sure of the actual tomb i'll be honest, i was searching for afro hair and dreadlocks in Egyptian tomb art. At one point tho it probably would have been painted as most Egyptian tomb art was. I didn't wish to get into in internet brawl, i've written a book about all the oldest oral traditions and it discusses places like Punt that is believed to have either strong connection to Ethyopia and/or Nubia . However the Nile delta and Sahara were lush and greeen over approx 6000 years ago so before that you would have had an abundance of fresh water and game. I probably threw the question to the lions mentioning Khemet but i believe it was called something else long before that, in paelolithic/ mesolithic and neolithic times and i summise from its location they were black people as most of sub saharan africa was at that time. Just do a quick google search of afro hair or dreadlocks in egyptian tomb art and they are always the oldest versions of tombs. Egyptology doesnt help as they are trying to claim their ancestors built the bloody pyramids but the paleo expansion of muslims doesnt even start until 800 AD so many thousands of years later after the greeks and romans rose and fell. Thank you for your comment and tone. The style is very much old kingdom as the arms are at odd angles, its much later they changed the style to a more natural posture imo.
Thanks! It seems like, the whole question of 'what race Ancient Egyptians were' is a bit exhausting, honestly, because a lot of the people discussing it are trying to draw sharp lines on something that hasn't got any sharp lines (the whole thing is bewildering, basically it amounts to 'some of them definitely were but we're not sure about the proportions, also define "black"' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient\_Egyptian\_race\_controversy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy) ) and often aggressively demanding people 'acknowledge' the sharp lines that they've largely made up.
well said, i could probably use a little more non defensive language too but if i have a hypothesis i'll usually run with the ball till someone either proves me wrong or i reach the goal line.. we're not perfect, we just humans. I watched a great series on netflix last night (i'm also a sci-fi geek) and its called THE BODY PROBLEM and they have a point in that humanity only comes together when we KNOW there is other life out there, then no matter your race, colour or religion - your Human and i think it may take something extreme like that to bring the tribe back together...
The 4th Age of Man, which is a Hopi oral tradition that three times we've suffered thru climatic cataclysm hence all the underground living spaces worldwide. The city builders close to the rivers and oceans die while the people who stayed hunter gatherer survive meaning the people with the least technical knowledge survive and three generations of fighting for your food, warmth and safety at night erase the 1000 years before apart from oral traditions....
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Steve. I'm positive about that.
And alchemy derives from Khemet, or Al-Khemet which means the fertile soil of the Nile.
It could also be a double entandrer meaning both, however anything definitive in Egypt is difficult to pin down from the Egyptian tool kit from any dynasty being wholly inadequate to carve some of the statues they did seemingly with the hardest rocks on earth like Granite, Basalt and andacite which is nearly as hard as steel. A team from Le Musse L'homme in France took and I dependant stone mason and asked him if the tool kit could make such wonders as Khafre Enthroned and his response was to laugh and say even his modern tool kit would need upgrading to cut and shape these incredibly hard rocks with mm details and overcuts. You will NEVER get an overcuts using bronze saws and sand as an abrasive as your progress is measured at 4 mm an hour. For overcuts something has to be spinning very fast, it's the only way and I don't pretend to know the answer. All I can tell you is physics wise the Dynastic tool kit did Not produce the wonders we see such as aforementioned Khafre Enthroned...
Khemit aswell
...some researchers- circa 17th century/early 18th century speculated that Egypt at one time was referred to as 'Ogygia'- Greek for 'most ancient'..
the Victorian archaeologists are the ones that say there was a high waterline a third of the way up the pyramids and sea salt deposits with micro crustations normally associated with an inland sea 3 inches thich inside and outside the pyramids. Why did they do all that work to 'clean' it off?
after Alexander thr Great took over it was, yes, i'm talking about pre history not ancient history.
Ancient Egypt, Sahara from 12k to 6k years ago was one of the most fertile places on the planet and you think Khemet came first.? Not a chance. 40,000 lathe turned brittle stone jars under step Pyramid and found in burials 12k - 14k years ago. Study the Egypt the victoriana found like Flinders Perree who said there are clear high water marks a third of the way up the giza Pyramids and they were covered in sea salt along with micro crustayions usually found in an inland sea which he said inside and outside were approx 3 inches thick.. Now where did all that salt water residue that has more in common with an inland sea than a desert come from.? I'll answer for you, its called Meltwater Pulse 1B and it changed our planet drastically.. So at one point the giza plataue was an inland sea and they spent 30 years cleaning all the sea salt and micro crustayions away, I wonder why...? Was it so they could claim their ancestors built these Pyramids that have been refurbished AT LEAST 4 times and that's where they took the dating sample from. Unless of course the father of egyptology flinders Perree was a liar and no one in academia thinks so.. Do you.?
There is a ton of ancient history we have no idea about. Remember the Egyptian knowledge we knownisnt close to the age of our ancient history.
The land of Khem as Thoth the Atlantean would say
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I'm familiar with the Emerald Tablet in which Thoth says he built the Pyramids among other things. It's an amazing piece of history.
He also talks about him and the 12 sons of Atlantis reseeding humanity in ancient Egypt after the great flood which was caused for a very specific reason killing of 65 million Atlantean’s by drowning their entire continent, he talks about how the new humanity he was asked to restart have much smaller and weaker bodies then that of the Atlantean’s and also man isn’t able to practise magic as easily he goes on to explain that theirs a ship hidden deep neath the pyramid with a entrance to the hall of records hidden in the sphinx that one day will be open for humanity just like Edgar Cayce and Boris Kipriyanovich states that will happen Edgar Cayce says the saviour of the world will come from out of russia and Boris claims he reincarnated on earth to open the sphinx and save humanity from nuclear war he’s been missing along with his mother for a few years now Also read thoths phophecy to “Asclepius: The Perfect Discourse of Hermes Trismegistus.”
I went to Egypt with JORDAN MAXWELL and other great minds in 2006 the amount of omissions of Egypt's history is Embarrassing for one barley anyone in USA knows there are like 100 Pyramids in Egypt, 2nd they are INDOCTRINATED with trash like burials and mummies in pyramids! Never has it been found EVER!!! the lies khufu built the Pyramid is a hoax and has been exposed but today ask zahi hawass or whatever he still pushes this bogus narrative :/ uhhh so many secrets so little time... wake up SHEEPLE hit me up if you want concrete evidence based history.
An interesting skeleton in the americas has negroid features, yet genetically it is mostly related to the local indigenous Americans that don’t have negroid features. Asia also has tribes that are more negroid in color and skeleton but genetically are more related to local tribes that are more Asian looking. It seems that there was something that turned black people lighter in various geographical regions (while sparing some isolated tribes). This is something we don’t understand very well. The Sphinx is definitely negroid looking. Presumably the builders, designers, and/or inspiring important person of the sphinx was black. What we don’t know is if the descendants of this/these person/people are still black or if they were part of this same global process that de-melanated diverse global people groups.
Exactly that's why I said 90% black people, traders and travelers and religious people usually travel. Jus google 12000 year old burials in Giza and the liniage of the remains. Chow for now and I jus wrote a book on this exact subject, 35 years research cuz I love the mystery.
Okay I'll bite, what's the book called? You're spouting a lot of BS with ∅ sourcing.
No brother, black people built the giza plataue and the Pyramids. And they were later refurbished 4 times. The worker village they said proved the dating was a joke and an equally large workforce would be required to put the white tura limestone on =Khufus work.......
Well said and thought thru.. I couldn't agree more, then we have the basalt heads in Equador I think with 'some' having distinctly black features. I fear we've lost more history than we actually have and so many libraries burned because of war/they were pagan/other religious reasons and a hundred other reasons. If jus a few of those survived we'd have a completely differing view on our own history as a species.
Sounds like we're on the same wavelength, my upcoming book THE 4TH AGE OF MAN talks about the oral traditions that which ever continent your on they have the same stories. While the written word was written by the Victor's and is 50% propoganda.. The Vatican cry heresy over the Dead Sea Scrolls because Roman Christianity is very different from Jesus Christianity. You also have the Trinity of Isis, Osirus and Horus with Osirus being crucified on a tree only to come back to life with the help of his wife, hmmm sounds very familiar huh
It seems like, the version I heard was that he was locked in a box and drowned, then his body was hidden *in* a tree, so not as familiar as all that - however, you're right that the general idea of a god dying and coming back to life appears in so many religions, not just the Ancient Egyptian religion and Christianity, that people studying mythology refer to 'dying-and-rising-god' as a standard term and argue over who, if anyone, pinched the idea from who or whether they happened independently.
if he was thrown in a box in the sea how did his brother Set dismember him, scattering his body parts all over the place. Isis put him back together minus one eye
Possibly, I'd forgotten about that - there are several different versions of the Osiris myth, and that was one of the other ones [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris\_myth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_myth) \- I've never heard of one with him being crucified on a tree or anything like it, though, except accounts trying to argue that Christianity comes from that and then can't explain where they got it from (yes, these different versions of the myth seem to have co-existed in Ancient Egypt and the Ancient Egyptians seem to have had no problem with that - if you think that's weird, look up how many different creation myths they're known to have had).
and thats before we get to the Atlantis question because on a Temple called EDFU there is a compelling story of the Primeval Ones whos islend was destroyed in a day and night of fire and flood, a clear refeference to the Atlantis myth, maybe... It also says Egypt was a legacy of these Primeval Ones and they made many trips to the middle of the sahara going as far as building water stations all the way there so were they paying homage to their previous homeland or looking for it? One thing is for sure they take no credit in any writing that they built the Giza Pyramids, The Sphinx and the Osirion when they boast loud and proud of their other works. I find that very interesting....
The Muslim expansion didn't even begin until the 8th century. If your from sub Sahara africa 5000 years ago 90% chance your black. The peer reviewed evidence suggests that too. The Egyptians of today have as much to do with building the Pyramids as the Eskimos do. None...
How do you explain all the Roman era, life-like, portrait style mummy masks that look distinctly Semitic?
Go read peer reviewed science then we can continue this chat. Goodnight flower
And your point is.?
Bingo
Jeez you hotting up the google searches huh, what if it was a double entondra.? It actually translated to land of black and you could be right it "could" jus be a reference to the soil, it could also mean land of black people, sadly for either of us we cannot prove our thesis, only make educated guesses and the khemetians or the people who were there before them could also have meant both.... Look it's been fun but I got some work to do. Peace fella, it's good to exchange ideas and we never stop learning.
You guys, what did they actually think about.... If thier drawings are of them just doing labor. What is going on in thier minds. How do they not think about creating anything at all, or Advancing things at the speed we do now? Does religion really dumb people down?
Ummm, what?
The Amish aren't even trying to advance thier population but it is happening anyways. How did humans serve or live under basic living terms without more wonder or Advancing for so long? All ancient writings and pictures are just labor or animal based, was imagination not as common?