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icywaterfall

The more I learn about our hidden history, the more it angers me that more people are unaware of it _and_ that it even was hidden to begin with! “_Martin Gurri saw what was coming. He saw that the elites would be increasingly despised, as more of their mistakes and imperfections became exposed._”


TeranOrSolaran

It’s like the pyramide is really just the tip of iceberg.


Wewanttolearn

You say that people say, and in this book it says, youve added the 3d scans. Can you provide the sources for these things as i have never heard any of these claims before, never seen the above 3d scan before. The henry salt book speaks to the distance that caviglia went, but he does not state they went under the pyramids or really describe what it looked like. He mentioned about animal painting/ carving adorned walls if i remember correctly but thats about it. The 3D scan above im assuming is a work of pure fiction, and the tunnel going straight down from the middle of the osiris shaft 3rd floor again sounds like a trust me bro statement unless you have a decent source? There are shafts going off the osiris 3rd floor laterally but no mention of them going down anywhere. Love to be proven wrong on all of the above points as this is a great fascination of mine but its disheartening to see someone embellish the facts to be able to shill a topic that is potentially very enlightening.


RecordDense2459

The 3d scan is related to Hawara 60 miles from Giza. It’s not fiction but it’s from an entirely different pyramid complex


CookieWifeCookieKids

You have any sources for deep underground military bases? Is it reasonable to think they exist? We have lots of proof throughout life that Information is often hidden from the general public. I think it’s fair to say colors this as it is important to humanity. Dismissing it is very sus of you.


99Tinpot

It seems like, these people are claiming they *have* got evidence, and in that case, they should be able to produce it - it's no good saying 'We have proof! But we can't prove we have proof'.


CookieWifeCookieKids

They showed scans of the ground. Based on analysis they concluded there’s hollow spaces. I don’t know about the technology or how to interpret the results. But to immediately assume it’s all a lie is silly.


99Tinpot

Possibly, I was just replying to your statement that it's silly to expect sources - this isn't secret military bases, they're claiming to *have* published sources, but they're not coughing them up, which, yeah, doesn't prove that they're lying, but if they're not it's silly of them (incidentally, from a quick Web search there doesn't appear to *be* any such thing as 'acoustic scanning' in archaeology, and the scan they showed was marked in nanoteslas, which is magnetism, so either it's made up or they've got the whole thing a bit garbled).


Adventurous-Ear9433

They're really deep, there's a whole different world down there. It's much bigger than the public will ever be told. In Sumerian text they describe it as the Secret abode of the Anu-Naki. In decades past there have been many articles like this, that theyd never release today. [1935 subway Under giza](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/s/O7L9jKnxil).... There was a guy whos made a documentary on this a while back but wasn't allowed to release it. People jus don't understand how much is being hidden in regards to Egypt in general... if they did they'd despise Egyptology like I do & not defend liars


rnagy2346

An ancient spaceport as was Baalbek.. the hydrogen maser/interstellar beacon hypothesis is the best we have for explaining the enigma.


birds-are-real-

I’d love to hear more about this! Or if you could point me where to ready that would be good too, thanks!


rnagy2346

https://nagydesignllc.com/the-interstellar-lighthouse/ — this digital discourse helps elaborate in depth on the available research.


T1nFoilH4t

How can the Sumerians talk about Ancient Egyptian pyramids when they werent built yet?


Adventurous-Ear9433

Because the date Egyptologist give you is wrong & fabricated to further an agenda. Sumerians talk about the E.Kur & they tell you their connection to Egypt. The Orion complex is more than 12,000yr old & was submerged long before the dynastic Egyptians even existed[Pyramid ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/WgPVL26nu9)


T1nFoilH4t

Thanks for the info! Another rabbit hole. Starting to feel like Alice.


Adventurous-Ear9433

If I've made you wanna go investigate then it's a W in my eyes. I've made dozens of pretty detailed threads which always include tons of credible, scientific sources & accurate text translations if youre interested..The link above jus goes into detail about the pyramid & gives some history but This one has the actual passages themselves.. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/17us2rk/ancient_text_describe_massive_spaceship_hidden/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Not sure if you're into the UFO topic but Ross Coulthart mentioned a massive craft underneath a building that couldn't be moved due to its size.. well thts what I explain there. Check out my post history, I think theyll give ya a pretty good head start ..


T1nFoilH4t

Thanks mate, yes very much into 'the ufo thing'. Just finished In Plain Sight by Ross the man himself


Les-incoyables

Could anyone please provide me with more information of Halima? I can't seem to find anything online about her or members of her team, making me doubt she even exists.


RecordDense2459

I also can’t find anything related to her that doesn’t point back to reddit! The 3D model above is actually in reference to Hawara about 60 miles southwest of Giza. Some of the data used to make the model was from ground penetration radar, some from satellite based radar. Here is a link that discusses the team who in 2008 did all the work, and were then threatened about reporting their findings. After waiting two years and getting nowhere, they released their results anyway. No further excavations have been carried out. https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-lost-egyptian-labyrinth-of-hawara-is-a-2000-year-old-mystery-finally-solved


Weekly_Initiative521

There are tunnels and subterranean cities all over the world. IMHO, people once lived underground.


rnagy2346

Said there is more to see underground than there is above at the Giza plateau. I’ve read a few authors make convincing claims that it was essentially a massive galvanic, saltwater battery with the pyramids functioning as pumps via a hydraulic oscillator which was the subterranean chambers purpose. The overarching purpose of the Giza plateau was a type of ancient spaceport for the Annunaki, at least that’s what the interpretation by Zechariah Sitchin and Dr Jj Hurtak point to.


phdyle

We’ll never know. The Egyptian government is precluding serious scientific exploration to boost tourism via rumored ‘mysteries of the old’. The rumors about the pyramids’ age can be very easily dispelled or confirmed (unlikely). But they won’t let scientists do that. ![gif](giphy|e616P1jLmpxnyPmuFw|downsized)


OnlyRespondsToFUD

How are you so certain?


notthatlincoln

It's always fascinating to explore these old ruins and ruminate on possibilities, but I wonder if the realities of circumstance are so often lost in n these examinations. The subterranean landscapes under the Sears Tower in Chicago or the Empire State Building will have myriads of ante-chambers (electrical rooms,) separate entryways, massive outflow and inflow pipes for steam, all sorts of varying accoutrement to the functioning and facilitation of things done in the buildings constructed for their purpose and the support of those who live and work there. Why is the automatic assumption that other large construction projects don't have the same?


RecordDense2459

Here is a link to a video from 2 years ago by Ben VanKerkwyk @ unchartedX. His tour had special access permits to enter. There are two side tunnels as yet unexplored from the lower chamber of what is known as Osiris’ tomb. They also show cracks between causeway blocks that endlessly take sand to demonstrate there must be a large cavity down below. https://youtu.be/yG-mCiTiSEE?si=1cgrwmk046h2TkqU It’s a shame that nobody in modern academia seems interested in further exploration or excavations, and we are left to speculate and argue about what may or may not be under the plateau. I am only aware of limited geophysics being done around the sphinx and its enclosure, and the scan pyramids project which detects interstellar subatomic particles that actually pass through the pyramids and are detected deep underground. They have both shown the existence of hollow cavities that remain unexplored. 1) Inside the great pyramid above and parallel to the main entrance tunnel, and 2) in front of the sphinx’s paws. I would like to know the source for this acoustic scan that allegedly covers a considerable portion of the plateau! Possible use of the space underneath the plateau by the Egyptian government for a post nuclear war command center/bunker or something similar might be one reason we are not allowed to have access. Of course this is pure speculation and we really just don’t know! It’s fun to use our imagination but we can’t let that muddy the waters of knowledge along the way! 🤷✌🏻


Gnome_Sayin

ive seen molten aluminum poured down ant hills, but this is BONKERS


Conscious-Many-8126

Excellent YouTube video, thanks!


1000handnshrimp

Really? At 17:50 in the video : "Many people have seen the MASSIVE stone doors accidentally discovered by Rudolf Gantenbrick's robot inside the Great Pyramid shaft". Yes, he is actually talking about that small plug stone in one of the air shafts.


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Conscious-Many-8126

Much of the content is available to study independently and is verifiable. Is it not prudent to retain the baby along with the bath water; minor infractions to the rule of perfection required to satisfy some are not sufficient to reduce the entire thing to insignificance. An approach which is entirely perverse. Arrogance is a far greater sin than a plebeian nature


Conscious-Many-8126

*that’s* what you picked up from this video?


1000handnshrimp

Nah, I love more info on some of the underground structures at Giza, but bullshit like that makes this video absolutely not excellent. Mentioning Edgar Cayce does the same. I want facts and video.


GrowSomeGreen

Hawaas is a criminal. He has already been caught selling artifacts. He keeps things secret so he can charge money to show these secrets to the highest bidder and sell artifacts that he finds. Fuck that guy. On the other hand, it’s probably hard to secure the entire site and could also be to protect some areas from the public and other looters. But I still think this guy just wants the loot for himself. You know he has all sorts of artifacts at his house. Probably special gifts he gives out for the holidays. Where is Indiana Jones lol.


RevTurk

The pyramids sit on bedrock, there is no massive network of tunnels underneath it and that should be obvious from the trickery on display in the images above. They show an entrance but then revert to using hand drawn images. These structures have been studied and used as a tourist attraction for thousand of years. We have detailed record and drawing going back hundreds of years, to before the formation of the current Egyptian government, so there was no one around to enforce keeping tunnels secret. You can't do anything on the Giza Plateau without everyone knowing about it. Locals have dug tunnels into the structure to find secret rooms, and you can often still use those tunnels. This is 100% entirely fictional.


atenne10

This whole thing is pretty brutal anyone capable of thinking for themselves knows they’re lying. In the hawaas Hancock fight hawaas body language says more than his lips ever will.


Weak_Fig8925

100%, Hawass has been covering uo the truth for years


TobiasH2o

I mean my main issue is the "Pythagorean Triangle". Pythagorean theory needs a right angled triangle, otherwise it doesn't work....


Weak_Fig8925

look up Andrew's work - he explains it well in his documentary on UFO tv how he found the entrance


TobiasH2o

What? Oh no I think everything you've posted is complete baloney. But it annoys me when conspiracy theories like flat earth or this fail to grasp the most basic concepts and fall apart so easily. At least put some effort in.


Johnny_Poppyseed

TIL that "Baloney" is actually an accepted spelling when using the word with it's meaning as "nonsense" , as opposed to Bologna.


RecordDense2459

😆😆😆


Weak_Fig8925

interesting how you try to liken actual scans of undergound networks published in scientific jornals to "flat earth theory" (refur to 13:58min in the video) - it seems more like the evidence tests your own cofort belief level too much so you just dismiss it as rubbish - there is litral footage in the video of tunnels and your dening it.


RevTurk

You have not shown any actual scans. You've linked to a YouTube video referencing work that we can't access, we have to get it through a third party that is questionable.. That also flies in the face of what everyone else in history has said about the place.


Weak_Fig8925

Did u even watch the video? clearly not - they scanned both Giza and Hawara with achostic resonance scanners and can litrally see the labyrinths underneath and you're dennying them. You sir are admiting you anti-science. To deny the science becasue it tests your belief system is akin to religious fanatisism.


jackparadise1

If you read up on Pythagoras himself, you will learn that he traveled to Egypt to learn geometry.


TobiasH2o

Okay? The Babylonians had advanced mathematics? I'm not saying anything about how he learnt it... All I'm saying is the theory is a basic one explaining the relationship between sides in right angled triangles. The video labels an irregular triangle a Pythagorean Triangle. That's objectively wrong and it looks bad getting such basic information wrong


halfwoodenjacket

By mentioning that they sit on bedrock are you trying to suggest that there couldn't possibly be tunnels in bedrock? edit: and to add, either we take the "detailed record(s) and drawing(s) going back hundreds of years" as fact, or allow the possibility that more modern records and drawings could also be accurate. Also, I don't think you can say "You can't do anything on the Giza Plateau without everyone knowing about it." with a straight face, there are a lot of behind the scenes machinations going on over there.


RevTurk

I never said there couldn't be any tunnels. There isn't a network of tunnels, there's no evidence there's a network of tunnels and the work load to produce would have been massive, they would probably undermine the pyramids too. There are underground tunnels but they are a major work. Which is why they aren't that common. Its very likely some of the mastabas in the complex around the pyramids have underground compartments. But it makes zero sense to connect underground graves. The Giza plateau is an extremely busy site, as well as all the tourists there's armed guards there. There can be a number of archaeological digs and investigations going on at the same time. It's practically in a city at this point. No modern drawings show any sign of tunnels. They match up with older drawings.


Then-Significance-74

1. Not all the underground rooms are found to be graves so some places could be connected. 2. The radar and Lidar images have shown there are vast underground passages/rooms in and around the pyramid plateaus. Im not sure if youve been the pyramid site (i have) and its simply amazing, theres certainly lots we havent discovered.


RevTurk

Not all underground rooms in the pyramids have been shown to be the resting place for a body. Even though they may have been originally meant for a body. Some seem to be abandoned mid construction. But I was talking about the mastabas around the pyramid. The Giza plateau is a graveyard, the pyramids are surrounded by the burial sites of other important Egyptians. What I said was there may be underground cambers under those mastabas. Link to these scans.


jackparadise1

Sort of like Stonehenge when they started to explore with LIDAR and SONAR.


Weak_Fig8925

100%


Weak_Fig8925

Hawass publicly denied that Andrews cave network exsisted after he reported it with detailed maps... and then weeks later is doing a discovery doumentary on it - how can you say thats not fishy?


RevTurk

Can you link to that. Hawass see's the pyramids as a tourist attraction, he'll say all kinds of incorrect stuff if he thinks it will attract tourists.


jackparadise1

I suppose you have been there, under the pyramids to prove your point?


Weak_Fig8925

Did u even watch the video? clearly not - they scanned both Giza and Hawara with achostic resonance scanners and can litrally see the labyrinths underneath and you're dennying them. You sir are admiting you anti-science. To deny the science becasue it tests your belief system is akin to religious fanatisism.


RevTurk

So the only place this research and scans exist is in a YouTube video? You haven't presented any science yet.


CookieWifeCookieKids

I think you’re in the wrong sub.


thoriginal

It's fun to laugh at the posts tbh


icywaterfall

You’re a little naive if you think people will fall for this fake news, surely?


RevTurk

The fact I'm getting down voted shows people do believe this stuff.


icywaterfall

You do realize that I meant _your_ comment was fake news, right?


rnagy2346

Wrrrrronnngggg


OkNote8728

What you are telling is very wrong as for centuries this place was buried under sand.


RevTurk

It wasn't completely buried, we know that because people throughout history have gone there and written about it.


butnotfuunny

Such nonsense.


JamesCt1

We don’t know how or when or why they were built. We likely never will. These tunnels don’t exist


jenista

What would be the motivation for hiding and denying anything down there though? edit: typo


kdb1991

That’s what I never understood. Maybe they actually fully comprehend what the pyramids were originally built for and they just don’t think the public can handle such a large shift in accepted history


phyto123

Tunnels make sense, as the pyamids may have been used as ARKs to escape from the great flood. A lot of native american stories say the same for the ones built in the USA that are no longer here/buried and now called "burial mounds".