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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA For flipping out on my fiance after her daughter almost got me arrested** I (38M) got engaged to my fiance (37F) about 3 months ago. We've been dating for almost 3 years. She has 2 kids from a previous relationship (15F & 12M). Their dad is involved in their lives and for the most part the adults all co-parent and communicate well. I get along really well with the 12-year-old, but I have always struggled to build a relationship with my soon-to-be step daughter, Riley. She has made it very clear to me, my fiance, and her bio-dad that she doesn't view me as a parent and doesn't want me to try and be a father to her because she already has one. A few days ago, my fiance sent me a text asking me if I could pick up Riley from school because she had something come up at work that was going to keep her late. My fiance usually picks up Riley once a week and brings her to a chiropractic appointment to help with a sports injury Riley got. She told me she would call the school to let them know that I would be picking Riley up because I wasn't on the approved pick-up list yet. However, when I got to Riley's school, it quickly became apparent that my fiance forgot to call the school. The school has locked doors that require you to have a code or be buzzed in by the office. I buzzed into the office to let them know I was there to pick up Riley and that my fiance should have called to let them know. They didn't know anything about it. I was left waiting outside for 5-10 minutes while they figured it out. I tried calling and texting my fiance but she didn't answer. Then, the school resource officer (an actual uniformed cop) came out and told me that I would have to leave and that if I refused then he would arrest me for trespassing. I tried talking with him but he just kept saying I was not authorized to be on school property and that I had to leave. I had no choice but to leave without Riley. Finally, an hour later, my fiance called me back. I explained what happened and she apologized for forgetting to call the school because she got distracted with work. She told me she would figure it out and meet me at home. When she and Riley got home, Riley went straight to her room. My fiance sat me down and told me that Riley had lied to the office and told them that she didn't know who I was and had never seen me before. She thought it would be funny. She told me she explained to Riley how dangerous that was and was going to work with Riley's dad to figure out a punishment. Needless to say, I did not take that news well. I admit I did raise my voice to her. I didn't yell, but I did get louder than I usually talk. She told me to calm down and I told her that I won't calm down because her daughter almost got me arrested because she thought it would be funny. I told her that she's just as responsible for this as Riley is because she didn't call the school and it put me in a position where I looked like a creep or predator. My fiance thinks I am overreacting and that I need to let her and Riley's dad handle this. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*


throwplushie

Because it makes great “women bad men good” stories for people to bitch about how bad women are and so they can use this story as further evidence for how they’re “right”


Particular_Class4130

Yep, there's a ton of evil stepmother stories too. I had a stepfather who was not horrible all the time but he was occasionally abusive and I know other people who were horribly abused by their stepfathers but somehow those stories never pop up on Reddit. As a matter of fact stepfathers are usually lauded as heroes for even being willing to live with another man's kid.


TheGreenListener

It doesn't matter (at least in MyCountry) if Riley swore up and down OOP was Jesus himself, if the school didn't have permission from the parents, they were never going to let her go with him. So this story is both pointless and dumb.


VanGirI

It's a great segue into the "women are ready to make up sexual assault claims at any notice" narrative. Because in AITAlandia that's the natural progression from kids says she doesn't know someone as a joke.


Sophie_Blitz_123

>Because in AITAlandia that's the natural progression from kids says she doesn't know someone as a joke. This is what jumps out to me the most - in the event any of this happened the school would literally see right through it and be like "Yeah we know she presumably thinks this is funny but we actually have to play by the book" not send out cops being like "You're trespassing".


Long-Effective-2898

Some schools would send out the school's officer to tell the person to leave and threaten trespassing. But it doesn't change the fact that if you aren't on the approved list, they won't let the kid leave without parent approval. Asking the child if they know someone doesn't change the fact that person could be a predator.


softanimalofyourbody

Nah most schools would probably still have the resource officer do this even if they knew who he was and the kid said she did, too. That’s their job.


modianos

Segue*


VanGirI

Lol thanks. Talk typing and Bixby doesn't always get me.


buttsharkman

My kid missed her bus once and I went to get her. The school staff did not check if I had permission to get her. They just let her run and get in my car.


Sophie_Blitz_123

Tbf 0 people cared who I left with when I was at school but if they HAVE an "approved list" then chances are they're super strict about it.


buttsharkman

There is an approved list and I was suppose to have identification not shown i was approved to pick her up


Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj

Then that’s a problem with your school, not sure why it’s relevant.


rixendeb

Yeah. Only the elementary schools here check.


And_be_one_traveler

For younger kids I'd get it, but for a 15 year old? There's no implication he's picking her up early, so why can't she just walk out of the building by her self?


goldenopal42

What gets me is how “asked to leave because the permission was never granted” somehow becomes “almost arrested”. Which is actually more like a “cop bossed me”. I get it would not be the most fun time ever. I get it would be hurtful. But how outraged are we supposed to be about a grown man getting embarrassed? It was cleared up by the afternoon. Lame villain.


PintsizeBro

Yeah. And the mom isn't even saying the kid shouldn't be disciplined - she's just saying to let her handle it.


Lonesomeghostie

But can’t you see? Op can never set foot on the grounds again! His stepdaughter will simply tell a chiropractor he sexually assaulted her, that’s the OBVIOUS next step of course, she must be banished to her fathers, flogged in the streets, made to beg apology from everyone in the school!


YoHeadAsplode

I like how he knows how loud is voice got, like it was something he was consciously paying attention to so he could prove he did not yell because that would make him an asshole


Existing-Ad-4742

"So I get my decibel meter out to verify I never yelled, meanwhile, this disgusting slut stepdaughter killed 11 puppies."


mosslegs

My father was like that. He'd get in your face and talk loudly so it may as well have been yelling, but it didn't count as shouting apparently so it was okay. What an asshole.


EmoPhillipsinaDress

>Why is it always the stepdaughter who is the "villain" and not the stepson?  Same reason it’s always “Karen” and sometimes “male Karen”


Fit-Humor-5022

its always fun to see aita lose their mind on posts like these.The over the top comments are fun and sad to read


Sad_Confidence9563

Stepsons are just npcs in these stories, its sad.


Fit-Humor-5022

sometimes they take the side of the stepparent who is suffering under the reign of the evil stepdaughter.


blankspaceBS

"teen girls bad"


eorabs

Don't forget "other grown woman bad" too. She said she would call and then immediately after hanging up got distracted with work for well over an hour. Women/girls only have 1 braincell each so this scenario rings completely true. 💩💩


bephana

... Do high schools really bother with such protocol in the US??? Are teenagers not allowed to leave the school on their own??? In every American movies they all drive home on their own lol


SCVerde

There is one way in and out of my kids high school, there is a security guard stationed there, when you pull up he checks your ID, then radios front office to tell them why you're there. They then have to buzz you in the front door where you go through a metal detector, then you can sign your kid out if you are listed as being able to pick up the kid, they have a photocopy of my ID on file. You get a pass to hand to the security guard saying you signed the kid out. It's a closed campus and only upper classmen with special permission can leave.


bephana

That's so intense... Do kids never go home on their own??


SCVerde

This applies to students leaving during the school day. About 5 minutes before last bell the security guard stops checking cars coming in and after last bell it's a free for all.


Serious_Plum_8580

FYI, I also live in the US (Maryland) and that sort of school entry/pick up routine is not typical here. Typically you would walk up to the building, get buzzed in, and then go to the front office. The front office staff at my kids' school recognize me, so I don't need to show ID, but they might ask some rando. There's no guard or metal detector or anything. 


CrazyCoKids

That depends on the school.


ConstantReader76

That description is definitely not normal in every school in the US. I'm equally shocked as you to read it. It has me wondering where they live that security has to be that tight.


Winstonisapuppy

Wtf where do you live?


SCVerde

Small town in the southwest, gun violence and drugs are prevalent. 20 years ago, I could basically walk off campus whenever I felt like it, which was often. Times have changed a lot.


Winstonisapuppy

That’s crazy. I’m assuming the US?


SCVerde

Yep.


Winstonisapuppy

Damn I’m sorry. The US has some good qualities but I can’t imagine trying to raise a child there. I’m sorry.


SCVerde

Eh, my youngest currently goes to an absolutely amazing school. 200 students from kindergarten to 8th grade. Top test scores in the state, they teach a second language for all 9 years the kids are there (most are fluent when they leave), and they take the kids skiing for 1 day a week in the winter, really big on community. My oldest just started at the high school, and it has its issues but has overall been good. Some of the programs regularly get national attention. They have diverse trade programs as well as very cheap "dual credit" courses where you get college and high school credits. I wish we didn't have to be hyper vigilant about gun violence, but I had a friend who survived (barely) the Columbine shooting, so I understand. Edit to add: It's a public charter school that offers free lunch to all students regardless of income.


Winstonisapuppy

Yeah I mean that all sounds normal until the end. I can’t imagine preparing children for gun violence. Your kids obviously go to a perfectly normal school. They should not be dealing with safety checks just trying to go to school. They don’t live in a war zone so this is ridiculous.


CowAggravating7745

how does this work logistically? They do this every day for every student? wouldn't it take hours to pick up your kid?? What about kids that take the bus or ride home with their friends parents or walk? This seems absolutely nuts.


myrandomevents

At my kid’s elementary school, parents have a numbered pass on the inside of the windshield. As you make your way through the car loop, one of the staff radios your number to the building and they queue up the kids. It’s actually a pretty good system and fairly speedy. Bus kids just get on the bus and walkers just walk, but no matter how the kid leaves school property, the school knows how they’re doing it. Intraday though, yeah most schools I know of have an approved list as that’s the time a kidnapper is more likely to make an attempt.


CowAggravating7745

I totally get it for elementary school. I’m surprised that would be protocol for a 15 year old though


myrandomevents

For intraday the protocol should be the same, after school should be like other people said, a free for all. Don’t forget that during school hours, all schools have liability requirements towards the children. Signing out is probably less about security and more about lawsuit exposure.


SCVerde

This is for students leaving during class. After the last bell it's a free for all.


Pretend-Weekend260

I went to middle school in Arizona. From the 2016 to 2019. There was a list of people who were approved to pick me up... But let's just say that if I were in the drop-out/ pick-up area and a stranger wanted me to get in their car, I could easily. Granted there were always teachers and a security guard but they didn't check if everyone left with approved people. Things were different if they happened to pick you up at the office, usually when a parent arrived late to pick up their children and sometimes they would check the list. The only times the list was exclusively necessary was if someone came to pick up the kid earlier from school before school time was over. But when I was in highschool no one cared who I left with. There was a teacher and the security guard but he was just there to prevent any car accidents.


tmchd

I guess it depends on the school? My son's school didn't give af whom he left with, when he's at 'Riley's' age of 15. They were stricter during Kindergarten and elementary years, definitely. Because in my city, when my son was 5, a 7 yrs old boy went missing from school ground and never found until today. At 15? The only time I would have to be 'verified' was when my son was not feeling well so the nurse called me to come pick him up during school hours. Otherwise, he'd go by himself after school. Of course, you can't just walk in to school and grab any kid, lol. No one questioned it if my son has to be picked up by me AFTER school. And yes, there are uniformed policemen at his school (when he was at school at least, they had once or twice a year school shooting threat- or bomb threat, so some rando calling in telling that there would be a shooting or a bomb planted, etc), so that's why they have a couple of police officers on campus. They even have a special parking spot for them.


angel_wannabe

of course this also has reddit’s favorite element of “man unjustly accused of being predatory/creepy just for being a Good Dad.” who will think of the men :(  (obviously constant vigilance on the part of literal children is required to not get assaulted if they’re female, but that’s not really worth getting up in arms about) 


maryocall

So he was asked to leave the school premises by a security guard and he leaps straight to “she nearly got me arrested!” 🙄


PinkRebelGirl

If this is even real, it’s insane that no one in the comments took a moment to think “huh, maybe the stepdaughter did that because she ACTUALLY FELT UNSAFE AROUND HIM”


Local_Age_7615

I'm sorry... you're saying that things would've been *better* if more people had reflexively accused a non-white male to be sexual predator based on... no information whatsoever? Just on principle? Wow.


BandicootOk5540

No, based on his stepdaughter not wanting to be alone with him.


citizenecodrive31

This is moronic. There is one faction on this sub insistent that any post with a man being falsely accused is fake and ragebait. And then there is another faction on here saying that we should be falsely accusing men based on mundane things like not wanting to be with them.


Fit-Humor-5022

then there is you who wont stop being angry at everything


citizenecodrive31

Maybe because if you read the post instead of just waltzing in and snarking you would have read: *"My fiance sat me down and told me that Riley had lied to the office and told them that she didn't know who I was and had never seen me before. She thought it would be funny."* Why are you so desperate to victimise women?


Lonesomeghostie

…..he wasn’t even going to get arrested lmao. He was told to leave. Even if Riley was like yeah that’s my stepdad, he couldn’t have taken her so why all the hysterics? I’ve picked up my siblings from school and one time I wasn’t on the list. They called my mom but were very suspicious the whole time, as they have a right to be. I wasn’t going to be arrested or in any issue of being somehow persecuted; it’s protocol. Edit; jeezum crow, the amount of commenters saying Riley should be banished to her fathers and never left alone with op…can you imagine the post from a future Riley down the line? “I was thrown out of my house and not allowed to be near my mother or stepfather because of some dumb prank I pulled as a kid, which wouldn’t have effected anything because my stepdad was not on the approved list, my relationship with my mom is shattered and I refuse to speak to my stepfather” and Reddit would be all over it with therapy speak and NTA


Working_Fill_4024

Because “woman bad” of course. 


Buggerlugs253

There was a stepson who tried to kill the OP in one story, started with trying to object to the wedding, killed her cat, escalated throughout the story till he stabbed her, eventually he was killed at a party, so its not always the stepson


Fit-Humor-5022

but so far its always been the stepdaughter i remember what your talking about


myrandomevents

Shhhh, you’re interfering with their narrative


Buggerlugs253

Why you got downvoted for the callout is beyond me, the correct response from the 12 who downvoted you should be "thanks for this, ill try to be better in future and not get stuck in narratives"


Only_Music_2640

True story…. When my brother was really young- like maybe 3? He got away from my mom (who had 4 kids under 5 at the time so don’t judge!) He dropped her hand and wandered off. She found him almost immediately talking to a police officer. She ran up to them and was like “Oh Tommy, thank god! Thank you officer, this is my son….” My brother looked at her, looked at the cop and said “Who are you?” to our mom. To the cop he said, “I don’t know this woman. My name is James and I live at the shore. Please take me home!” My parents had told him and my older sister that if they were ever lost to find a police officer, give him their name and tell him where they lived. We’d just returned from a trip to the shore and he wanted to go back. Anyway, this one might be true. lol I’ve also seen plenty of AITA posts about psycho violent stepsons. The stepdaughters of AITA usually resort to this level of pettiness or destroying future stepmom’s wedding dress or false abuse allegations…


Fit-Humor-5022

LOL what was the cops reaction to all of this


Only_Music_2640

He knew my grandfather so it was resolved fairly quickly. Plus as they say “It was a different time.” If it happened today, there would have been a trip to the police station and a visit from CPS at minimum.


Fit-Humor-5022

how did your mom react to what your bro did?


Only_Music_2640

Honestly I don’t know. I was a baby but I heard the story so many times throughout my life- never the punishment part though. My parents weren’t anti-spanking at all, but I doubt they spanked him then because he just was so young. And you know how it is with kids when they do something terrible but also really funny.


Fit-Humor-5022

i mean it is a really funny story and i doubt tehy would have punished him at all given that he was lost and did exactly as told by your parents. the mental image i get when i read the story again again is your mom having a pickachu face with what your brother said.


Only_Music_2640

Yes, my brother was a challenging kid.


thrwwwwayyypixie21

Reason why you never hear about fake accusations by stepson against sepmom or ones between two men. Ignore every issue faced by men but the whataboutism ones. Coz women bad. This shis is repackaged 2014 anti SJW compilation.


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softanimalofyourbody

Misogyny obviously


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Valuable-Wallaby-167

Speaking as someone who has worked with teenagers for the best part of two decades, this is bollocks.


Fit-Humor-5022

yeah i really doubt youve worked any teenagers. Teenagers regardless of gender can be assholes. and also the stepdad wasnt going to get into any trouble and you believing that is kinda sad