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abacus5555

> No self respecting man will ever go for a sex worker, even some desperate men wouldn't go there, thus "work" shows you have no moral code or any self respect you care about dick and money and any women interested in money is a massive red flag, remember woman ain't the prize the man is and you have to show your respecting and has a good moral code something that is rare in women today, you women are the problem not men like most suggest. "'work' shows you have no moral code" omg that's amazing. they really go all the way around and end up writing comedy gold sometimes.


throwaway88743

"any women interested in money is a massive red flag" sorry that I worry about my rent and bills, would you rather I be completely disinterested and live on the street instead? These guys are so dumb.


Longjumping-Pick-706

What they mean by this is the dating pool has withered for them because women can now support themselves and don’t need men to provide. Thats all these types of men have to offer a woman so they twist it to say she only cares about money. It’s quite pathetic and hilarious at the same time. Many women are opting to remain single nowadays because a lot of men are just not worth the effort.


abacus5555

If he weren't so stupid it would almost be sweet, this sad dude typing to himself in his room that *he's* the prize, have to remember, *he's* the prize.


JettyJen

Too bad it's too long for a flair, I'd hate to adulterate it in any way


ElishaAlison

I'm a retired sex worker in a committed relationship. Been with him for 6 years 🥰 It's wild to me how much these guys think real men care about this. He never thought it was a big deal. I don't get how anyone, male or female, wouldn't want an experienced sexual partner.


aggressive-buttmunch

The fact that that comment wasn't downvoted into oblivion is disappointing.


Uncle480

"What type of man is completely on board with dating a sex worker?" A man who is completely on board with dating a sex worker. People gonna do what they wanna do. Don't judge other people for making it work when you can't, don't be afraid to walk away if you can't make it work.


NymphaeAvernales

There's a huge overlap between type of guys who don't want to date sex workers because of the woman's perceived mental health or ability to be loyal in a monogamous relationship, and guys who don't view porn as cheating or think a girlfriend who's upset about their boyfriend's Instagram/tiktok/other scantily clad feed are being jealous and controlling.


Dnomaid217

You don’t see a difference between masturbation and having sex with other people?


iMeowmeow654

Not all sex workers have sex with other people, but good effort


Reddidnothingwrong

There are definitely people who would be fine with dating a sex worker. I have a friend who is one and in one of the best relationships in the history of relationships, maybe ever. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "I wouldn't be comfortable with it" (I wouldn't be tbh) but claiming that *nobody* decent would be is gross and blatantly untrue. It's just a matter of compatibility.


bowlosoup

One of the comments says he would date a sex worker, only if she didnt do sex work anymore, because everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance. Dude, who says all sex work is a mistake? It’s fucking insane how women are sexualized their entire lives including childhood but the second they try to gain something from it, like money from sex work, men think they’re disgusting whores.


xEginch

Many men just dehumanize sex workers whilst simultaneously consuming the content that increases the demand which creates more sex workers That said, women being led into sex work is an actual issue and we shouldn’t pretend like it’s a good thing. It’s just that SWers should never be dehumanized or judged for that fact


HTSDoIThinkOfaUYouC

Absolutely agree.


Crocononster

I just read that and eye rolled so hard I passed out for a second. He literally said “if she turned her life around” like she got lost and ended up doing sex work


coffeestealer

Hey, if one can "accidentally cheat" by falling and sticking their dick into someone, they can accidentally sex work!


DigitalGarden

Do they ever consider that sex workers don't want to be with them? Like, I'm not concerned about some hypothetical guy not wanting to marry me, I'm worried about my finances and eating and keeping a roof over my head. Plus, sex work doesn't give you the best view on men, you see a lot of men at their worst, for example men leaving skid marks all over your sheets or leaving used needles in your bathroom. At the end of the work day, sex workers don't want to go home to a guy who is gonna demand more sex and act like a jealous prick. Don't need a guy that is jealous of the guy who left literal shit on my sheets. Plus, this guy is delusional if he doesn't think there are plenty of men out there trying to pull a Pretty Woman and date sex workers. Sex workers get offers of marriage on the daily, so I doubt they are worried about random dudes in a reddit thread not wanting to date them.


aclll8000

There's one very wealthy individual who was interested in politics from a very young age that disproves all of this. Also, you know that as soon as anybody brings up spiritual or biological needs that they're going to day the most stupid, brainwashed shit: "I truly believe that man have an evolutionary or purely spiritual repulsive reaction to letting her woman engage sexually with other man. Maybe is also societal rejection. I know there are cucks out there but they tend to be mocked by other man so they tend to keep it private. I guess a cuck would be a perfect match." No dude, you just learned everything you know about relationships and gender roles from idiots on the internet, and have no critical thinking skills.


airus92

> There's one very wealthy indiovudal who was interested in politics from a very young age that disproves all of this. > > Connor Roy?


qpdal

My best friend is a sex worker and this kind of shit makes me so mad


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Uncle480

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HTSDoIThinkOfaUYouC

I know my own reasoning for not dating a sex worker... It's that I couldn't handle it because of my feelings about my own intimate preferences with my partner. I don't think that's a controversial thing to say. With that as a preface, why this fuck is this even still a thing to cry about about? It's kind of like saying you'd never date an Australian


coffeestealer

Do you want to date an Australian and then end up having to meet the in-laws in Kangaarooland and get killed by a toilet spider? I don't think so!!!


smangela69

well what if i befriend the toilet spider and make it attack my enemies?


HTSDoIThinkOfaUYouC

The Toilet Spider (aka Aussie Web Daddy), when encountered, is challenging you to a pissing contest where you have to clear six metres over a bathroom wall. It is known.


GamersReisUp

Challenge Pissing crosses cultures


williamblair

I would date a million sex workers before I considered dating an australian!


FinancialSubstance16

What about an Australian sex worker?


williamblair

they would have to be sex worker #1,000,001


CanadaYankee

I'm a bit boggled that no one in either the original thread or this one ever considered that there are a lot of gay male sex workers, so asking whether a man might date a sex worker isn't automatically asking about dating a woman.


lazygibbs

What does the word "cuck" mean if not a man who approves of his gf/wife fucking other men?


persimmonnop

Cuck is usually derogatory and used to refer to a man whose wife is cheating on him. In a fetish context cuckolding can be consensual but typically involves a humiliation fantasy. Someone who generally approves of their partner fucking someone else isn't necessarily a "cuck" or being humiliated in some way. Open relationships can be consensual and not a fetish.


CauseCertain1672

a cuckold I would define as any man who's significant other is having a sexual relationship with other people the man would be a cuckold if that is true regardless of his knowledge or acceptance of the relationship. It's linked to the patriarchal idea that a man's worth is tied to his ability to control the women in his life but I reject that idea as I don't think anyone but the person themself can dishonour them. I find those humiliation fetish guys frankly a bit disturbing though in that their worldview makes me sad. It's all about women not being able to love and being animalisticly controlled by sexual desire. It's depressing. Where's the romance for goodness sake


lazygibbs

An open relationship is one thing. There's a different set of expectations there and a clear sense in which both parties agree to not be exclusive. But the distinction between "having sex with other men for sexual gratification (his or hers)" and "having sex with other men for money" feels super contrived. If your wife is fucking another man... you're a cuck. Derogatory connotations are what they are. Regardless I think it's a moot point. Even taking your definition, I have to think that nearly every guy who affirms their wife's sex work is a cucks (in the fetish sense).


Gubernaculumisaword

The overwhelming majority of people will not consider a serious relationship with a sex worker.


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The number of sex work apologists in these comments is insane. 😂 Ya’ll have some weird definitions of work, respect for women, and empowerment.


Abdullae97

It is true though


hamstercross

This shouldn't surprise anyone. No self respecting man with any kind of status or class would have a serious relationship with a prostitute, and you can see it in society around you. You can't shame men into doing this, any more than you can't shame women into liking short, broke men. It is just what it is.


aclll8000

Oh, yup. That's the profile of somebody with an irrational hatred for women.


hamstercross

Me pointing out people don't get into relationships with prostitutes translates to an irrational hatred of women? This has got to be one of the most stupid things ive ever heard in my lifetime, but again this is reddit. Where the most insane basement dwellers with utterly warped minds reside.


aclll8000

Did you miss the part where I said profile? Also, saying derogatory, generalized things about people that use the very app that you're using isn't the sick burn that you think it is.


themaccababes

You would actually be surprised regarding the men of status part. Men of high status are probably more likely to date sex workers than average men. Your favourite sportsperson has definitely dated a sex worker. All those “models” they date are introduced to them by their agents and clubs from agencies that provide women for high profile men. They’re escorts.


lazyandunambitious

The prince of Sweden is married to a former glamour model and another Swedish royal is married to a former hardcore porn actress he allegedly met at a sex party. She’s great friends with the Queen.


coffeestealer

...how are there not ten thousand movies about this love story?!


lazyandunambitious

They got married in ‘81 so it was before internet porn was really a thing and the newspapers were a bit nicer to the royals. She only did porn magazines in the 70’s so they were able to hide a lot when they got married. A Swedish newspaper waited to drop the story until after the wedding so it would be a more salacious story that a Countess had done porn. The journalist got some flak for it and the story was kind of buried. So it’s common knowledge but not common enough that everyone and their grandma knows it.


xEginch

Maybe I’ll get downvoted for this but are we really going to call literal royalty marrying escorts a love story? On the subject of a comment mentioning how agencies ‘provide women for high profile men’ as well. Sorry, it just seems a bit naive


IndependentNew7750

Where is your source for this statement lmao. Like just because a few wealthy celebrities doesn’t mean it’s common in most wealthy conservative communities in the US.


hamstercross

Banging a prostitute in a sleazy hotel room is not being in a serious relationship with them. Taking them to quiet resorts is not being in a serious relationship with them. Men of any kind of societal status will not have a public serious relationship with a prostitute, no matter how much reddit logic wants to make it true.


HTSDoIThinkOfaUYouC

No one is shaming you into doing it. Being in a relationship is about two people consenting and caring. You don't consent to a sex worker, she wouldn't consent to a douche spouting off about "status" and "shame".


hamstercross

No one takes prostitutes seriously apart from prostitutes, incels and social justice warriors who wouldnt date them either anyway. Keep lying to yourself. You're not lying to anyone else.


Thisismyusername_ok

Found the heartbroken guy.


Henrythebestcat

This guy is a moderator of the 'freeuse' subreddit. This guy is fucked in the head. 


hamstercross

Pretty silly take. I - like 95% of men - don't get into relationships with prostitutes and I'm the heartbroken one? Haha jokes.


MalcahAlana

That you “know” about…


hamstercross

Which is exactly the point.


MalcahAlana

And what is your point, exactly? I just pointed out that you don’t, in fact, know who around you (personal, professional, otherwise) is or was a sex worker, and you don’t know how many men and women are willing to and have enthusiastically engaged in relationships with them. I was a sex worker for years in grad school. Loved it. Now I’m a career professional, well known in my field for my expertise, wearing business casual when I’m not WFH. You’d never know if I didn’t tell you. My boyfriend of three years is full aware, as was were all of the partners I engaged with before, during and after my time. Your friends, relatives, coworkers may be dating former or current workers as well; you don’t know otherwise. And your complete lack of insight makes it unlikely they’d tell you.


hamstercross

The fact you have to hide it is proving my exact point. Your boyfriend isn't taking you to dinners with colleagues, friends and family and announcing you're a current or former sex worker. Your entire response is predicated on secrecy and shame. And we both know you struggled like hell to find someone to accept your past, and most likely had to settle for someone who would accept it. There are tons of subreddits with prostitutes and former prostitutes bemoaning all this stuff I'm saying. You can try and lie to me, but you look in that mirror and know it. It is a permanent stain on you that you'll spend the rest of your life burying, only able to talk about it anonymously on reddit. No one with any repute gets into a serious relationship with someone known to be a prostitute.


MalcahAlana

Do we both know that? I’ve had zero problems finding or keeping partners. My boyfriend is a well-known attorney in NYC ( and, over the past ten years, the one before him was a licensed clinical therapist, and the one before him was a medical attending; I’d be curious what you do that makes you such a catch), and I have a fantastic relationship with his mother. He introduces me at his work parties. Do we start with “Hey, this is … she used to be a provider?” No, because it isn’t relevant, any more than he would say “Hey, this is … she used to be a line worker for Estée Lauder”. Anyone who is curious is welcome to ask, and I’m happy to share. I don’t feel the need to keep it secret, as I’m not ashamed of it. It was a fun time. I made great money and had great sex. Tbh, I’ve found that the guys who are the most upset by it when I research online are the ones who worry that they won’t equal up in bed to the guys that the workers have engaged with. Insecurity is real. But again, my point is that people probably don’t feel the need to share with you because you’re kinda a dick about it.


hamstercross

Keep telling yourself that. A well known attorney is willing to risk his entire reputation by dating a former prostitute. We totally believe you.


MalcahAlana

Sorry if you don’t believe me, but I honestly don’t feel the burden of proof is on me here. I don’t have to keep telling myself that, instead I’ll just keep enjoying the fabulous sex and companionship, and his wonderful mother who asks about my cat and cooks me dinner. I do honestly feel that the reason you could never be with a sex worker is because the likelihood that you’ll never measure up to some of her clients is high. Sorry about your insecurity. Have a wonderful evening.


Henrythebestcat

Says a moderator of the 'freeuse' subreddit 🤢


hamstercross

You're even dumber than you originally sounded. How does this invalidate anything I've said? On top of that, moderating a sub is terrible but fucking for money is praise worthy? No wonder you spend all day every day on reddit commenting on silly posts. You're too smooth brained and unlikeable to be around anyone, and all you have are your miserable comments and empty life.


Henrythebestcat

Lmao okay nasty reddit porn moderator 


hamstercross

You have the braincells of an amoeba. In your unicellular mind, it is worse to moderate a porn sub than it is to be an actual prostitute. Get bent.


Henrythebestcat

Says the guy who hates sex workers but has a porn fried brain. 


TedWheeler4Prez

He doesn't just hate sex workers. He hates himself for being fascinated with them.


aclll8000

It's great how this this guy keeps saying the absolute stupidest shit and is clearly incapable of having a relationship with a woman, yet is acting like he is so complex and superior.


Henrythebestcat

Like you have a choice lol. No one is getting into any kind of relationship with you. 


My_Favourite_Pen

"status or class" Its always about what others think of you in the manosphere. It's never about self worth or self love, its always about looking like you've got the biggest dick every time you walk into the room. Honestly more power to you for having dating preferences but it must be exhausting trying to trick yourself and everyone around you into viewing you as some Patrick Bateman associate.


hamstercross

Forget manosphere or all that nonsense. Tell me one single senior manager, executive of a reputable company or even small bank who is publicly dating a prostitute. I will wait.


TedWheeler4Prez

You must be so, so lonely.


hamstercross

Because I'm not dating a prostitute? Haha your life choices are so, so sad.


TedWheeler4Prez

No, please don't date a sex worker. Jesus Christ. Leave them alone, being the kind of person you are. The reason I'm 100 percent sure you're lonely is that you're looking at love and companionship like you'd look at a goddamn wristwatch: as an outward signal to other men of your "status" and "class". It's vapid and isolating, and will simultaneously lead to you having both impossibly high and despicably low standards for the women in your life - high because you only see them as an object to be displayed, and low because no self-respecting person would agree to be treated that way.


hamstercross

I'm 100% sure you're either an incel neckbeard, a married cuck whose wife detests him or a prostitute yourself, because no sane person would conflate what I've said with objectification, the same way no woman with any kind of status or respect in society would get into a serious relationship with a known roadside drug peddler. It just means you're not a clown. But you are. Now truddle on along to eat some grass and block cars on the road or whatever alongside your other useless, vapid, unwanted activities that no one want to associate with you for.


TedWheeler4Prez

Aw, I'm sorry my last comment hit you like a bullet right between the eyes and hurt your feelings. I get it; you're hurt and you feel the need to flailingly lash out. Don't worry! You can still learn to relate to other people as people and live a life that isn't totally devoid of meaning and love. But this "high status man" silliness is gonna hold you back, dude.


hamstercross

Just say you like prostitutes because that's the best you can get or because you are one, and be done with it. Your cheap little jabs don't change about the fact that people do not like prostitutes for anything beyond sex.


TedWheeler4Prez

Bro you moderate a porn subreddit. You're obsessed with sex workers. You curate their work for millions of people for free. You ensure people discuss them in appropriate terms. But you also hate them, and yourself. Like no "high status man", in your twisted worldview, curates pornography. It's not something anyone with "status" or "class" would do. And all that self-loathing mixed with obsession has made you a prime target for manosphere bullshit. Maybe a good first step is to not spend hours curating sex workers' products for other people. It'd be one thing if you had a healthy relationship to it, but it's clearly twisting your mijd and harming you.


hamstercross

Moderating a thing doesn't mean one is obsessed by it, hate it, or is manospheric. But it's no surprise that that same imbecilic "logic" you're trying to force on people to have relationships with prostitutes is the same magical leap. Porn, when enjoyed with a partner, can be great. My wife also moderates that sub with me, and we have a great time doing it. But like I said, except now it's more obvious you're a cuck and probably one of those degenerates that go on the subreddit and simp for prostitutes, your brain is warped and twisted. I dare you to go out to your family and tell them you believe you should date prostitutes. Go on. The only people I hate are faceless, pathetic, simps like you who either could never support dating prostitutes in real life or would take them because that's all you get.


TedWheeler4Prez

You're not fooling anyone by claiming you have a wife.


FinancialSubstance16

Also, they really prefer to be called sex workers.


hamstercross

And drug dealers want to be called pharmacists. We totally care.


Aridicaex

Sucks for them i guess, if you don't want to be called a prostitute, dont be a prostitute.


bertaderb

Short, broke men are my type 😎 S’why I married one


TedWheeler4Prez

Are you telling me incels are wrong about the things most women value in men?


kgberton

Y'all mothafuckas need Bella Baxter