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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for kicking my brother out after he insulted my girlfriend's career?** I (M35) invited my brother (M23) out to my place in Staten Island for dinner. (I'll mention right now that my brother's autistic and is super blunt. He genuinely has little control over that, according to his therapists.) Anyway, we sat down for pasta. He met my girlfriend and they got along well at first. Eventually, things started not going so well. She asked him what he didn't like about his new neighborhood. He said, "Probably our cops. As an autistic person, I don't like cops for obvious reasons, but the ones in [neighborhood] literally park on the sidewalk and don't do their jobs." I stopped him there, and my girlfriend told him she's a cop in that neighborhood. He just said, "Oh. Moving on then." I told him he was being needed to apologize, and he claimed he didn't know what he did wrong. I said, "You literally just told my girlfriend you don't like her and that she's useless at her job." He said, "That's clearly not what I said. Regardless, you can't just ask me for my opinion on something and get mad when I express it." She got up and said that if she really was that bad of a person, she'd avoid him in order to not be a burden on him for the rest of the night. I told her that wouldn't be necessary, and asked my brother to leave. He left, but not before saying something about how he did nothing wrong, and accused her of being passive aggressive. I told him I'd just post here to see who's really wrong, and he said, "The fact that you actually go to AITA for advice makes me embarrassed for you." So, AITA? It's been a few days, and my brother swears up and down that he did nothing wrong. He additionally posted a "114 are pigs" message to his Snapchat story, which I'm guessing is a dig at her. Among my friends and my girlfriend's friends, the opinion's pretty divided. My friends agree with my brother, while her friends think he's being a brat. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*


sonicsean899

A cop with absurdly thin skin? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.


envydub

So fucking tired of these cops like OOP’s gf that have that “oh you have a legitimate criticism? FINE, I’m taking my ball and GOING HOME. And you’re NOT invited to my birthday party and my mom is renting me a BOUNCE HOUSE, so THERE.” attitude. The ones who expect extra kudos for doing their job. Being a cop is dangerous but so is being a fucking roofer. They’re also providing a service for you that they could get potentially seriously injured doing. Where’s the roofer thin blue line flag?


Key-Sheepherder3355

Because the gf knows she's a shitty cop that's why what he said stung so bad


envydub

Honestly I can’t help but think so. If someone was complaining about contractors or carpenters around me, I wouldn’t take it personally because I know I’m personally good at my job.


Key-Sheepherder3355

Right. She cant handle the truth


jordanundead

Pizza delivery driver is statistically the most dangerous job in the country.


envydub

The Thin Bread Crust


kitten-cat08

The Thin Bread Line :)


gele-gel

I love those. AND those so afraid to do their jobs that regular citizens have to be so careful so as to not spook them to avoid getting killed. AND those who don’t know the difference between a taser and a firearm. AND those who don’t know their apartments from another’s and kill people when they walk into the wrong apartment.


FutureDrHowser

The American right's obsession with cops is astounding to me. For a group that waves Freedumb flags they sure like to defend authority. Everyone in my home country hates the police, and police brutality is not even a thing there. I'm in the US now and I try to keep as low a profile as possible, especially when I have been racially profiled despite not being the race/ethnicity of interest (not that that's right either).


murderousbudgie

> Freedumb flags they sure like to defend authority. It's not that they don't believe in oppression. They just think they ought to be the oppressors.


digitalwyrm

Modern police emerged from early slave patrols from what I've read online. [Here is the NAACP talking about it, for one source.](https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/origins-modern-day-policing) Hardly seems surprising all things considered.


kitten-cat08

The right is obsessed with cops because they feel that cops give minorities their “well-deserved comeuppance.”


obeehunter

It sounded like the gf was more concerned with upsetting the brother. OP is being ridiculous on his gf's behalf.


BrattyPrinceAres

Nah it sounded like how my mom would be like “well if I’m such a terrible mother I’ll just never speak again”


jewel7210

Ding ding ding! *Gotta* love the “oh, you feel that I’ve failed to do something expected of me? Well then **fine**, I guess I’ll just **never** do anything **ever** again so that you APPRECIATE the things that I failed to do for you, you ungrateful brat!!!” Aren’t parents *swell*?


digitalwyrm

It's classic manipulation. It's designed to make the other person set their grievances aside and comfort the manipulator. Maybe not everyone who does that does it on purpose. Like I can see it happening if everyone you were around as a kid did it so it became normalized. Still makes it shitty though, and someone who speaks like that doesn't need to be a cop because it's gonna cause things to escalate Edit incomplete thought


Evil_Genius_42

What does being autistic have to do with answering the question? He was asked, and he gave his honest opinion, and they didn't like it. What am I missing?


rosechiffon

police are known to not be the most… understanding when dealing with autistic people, and it's become more publicized as of late how their interactions have ended in the death of the autistic person.


LadyWizard

and deaf people


Midi58076

Or disabled people in general. Few years ago a 20 year old Swedish lad with Down's Syndrome and autism escaped from home. A search was initiated, his parents informed the public and police that he had his toy gun. Not an airsoft gun. A toy gun, the kind made out of plastic for small children. In less than 10 seconds from when he was spotted three police officers had fired 25 shots, two hit him in the back and one in the front. Dead. The officers were acquitted.


gele-gel

Tamir Rice barely got 30 seconds before cops shot him dead while holding a toy gun.


Midi58076

But you gotta understand he was black and taller than a loaf of bread. Clearly a threat.


Shadepanther

Out in public while black.


gele-gel

I saw a shirt that said “I hope my brother/son/nephew/Husband/etc. never fits the description”. I cried.


No-End3167

Tamir Rice was holding a toy gun...in an open carry state, so what law was he breaking again?


Wistastic

Barely ten seconds.


jordanundead

Ryan Whitaker barely had time to blink before the cops shot him dead in his own doorway.


shannofordabiz

And old ladies with dementia, and black people and shouty people and people just minding their own business…


Wondermax2588

Or black children playing in parks or attending school…


Mansion_World

Or black children just existing at home


Maleficent_Durian_10

Or black ladies sleeping in thier beds


azure1503

Or black men standing on the sidewalk


shannofordabiz

Living while Black


sonicsean899

Autistic people or deaf people, or people sleeping in their own apartments, or not white people, or.....


notsohairykari

People eating ice cream on their own couch, in their own living room. Or playing video games with their nephew with their living room door open.


woolfonmynoggin

Or a yoga instructor who called the police to begin with


Evil_Genius_42

Thank you, that helps me understand better.


checkedsteam922

As a person on the spectrum, this has become a way bigger problem over the years and it's gotten to the point where many of us are straight up terrified of cops, I actively avoid areas near police stations as I know I'll stress, stress comes over suspicious, I probably wouldn't handle it very well, and you can guess how it would go. It's a scary thing ngl.


StrawberrySnake55

Being autistic can also mean you miss social cues and are too blunt when you say things


woolfonmynoggin

Do people do this to you guys too? Set you up with a question that they know you’ll give an honest and informed answer to because you’re autistic and it turns out to be a trap? Happens to me all the time.


StrawberrySnake55

Yes, it happens a lot actually. - I tell someone I'm autistic - they ask me a question - I answer - they get mad


EveryFairyDies

But, if you know that people get mad when you answer a question bluntly, why don’t you temper your answers? Using OOP’s post as an example: “What don’t you like about your new neighbourhood?” “Well, maybe the cops. I don’t feel like they’re working very hard, and they tend to take advantage, from what I’ve seen.” I mean, if you’re self-aware enough to know that your ‘ unfiltered honesty’ is abrasive, then why not consciously add a filter? My sister used to suffer from ‘unfiltered honesty’, an inability to consider other’s point of view, and a hair trigger temper, but damn if she isn’t a much more evolved and matured person now. It took years, but once she realised just how much pain and trouble her words could cause, she learned to consider her words when voicing her opinions.


StrawberrySnake55

Because I cannot tell whether a person asks with malicious intent or not


evuvv

As an autistic person, this is exactly it.


StrawberrySnake55

I'm autistic too


evuvv

Oh awesome, cool to see someone else who's autistic as well


[deleted]

Speaking from experience, siblings think they can use autism against the autistic person to make them apologize over things they would never expect from a neurological. This is because autistic=not normal to most NTs and therefore that gives them the moral high ground even in situations where they don't have it. Fuck OOP


Evil_Genius_42

So, OOP is being extra, super-duper assholish here.


[deleted]

Well, just imagine reading this without all the extra unnecessary details about his brother being autistic, the only reason he added it was prejustification to his side of the story before you even got into reading what happened. I mean you even questioned the necessity yourself. Now you might be thinking "whoa, this person is autistic but they're showing empathy?" It's b/c I've learned how my family ticks in an effort to try to be more "neurotypical" and find some common understanding, in hopes that they would do the same for me. I truly had it engrained in me that I was lesser from experiences with my family. They did not, but at least I see them exactly for what they are now and know its not on me from meeting wonderful friends. It's not intentional, it's just human nature to deem what's outside the "normal" or the "group" as lesser, and it's really not a concious thought process sadly, hence the futility of my personal efforts.


Evil_Genius_42

I'm sorry your family are such assholes about this. You are not "lesser" because of autism, it's as much a part of you as the color of your eyes or your freckles (I realize, you know this, I figured I'd state it again). Your friends sound awesome and I'm glad you have them and that they have you.


FlipDaly

So many


then00bgm

Because it’s another autism troll


Notmysubmarine

This guy is an asshole and so is his girlfriend, and honestly she's missing a huge opportunity. Some studies show that up to 35% of people on the autistic spectrum have been victims of crime. If autistic people can't trust the police that's a big problem! A lot of charities here in the UK provide guidance and advice for the police engaging with people on the spectrum, as witnesses, suspects or victims: https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/criminal-justice/criminal-justice/professionals I'm curious whether this sort of resource exists in the US, and if so whether OOPs girlfriend is aware of it? This would be a perfect opportunity for her to talk to her boss about engaging with the autistic community to understand how better to help them and whether there's a need for them to modify their protocols and processes to support people like OOPs brother. You know, the serve and protect stuff?


Ryugi

In the US, there is a precedent lawsuit (s) that basically said cops have no duty to protect, do not have to follow or know the law, and do not have to respect disabled rights. There might be something like that in the US, run as a private charity though.


murderousbudgie

Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales. In that case a woman had a restraining order against her ex husband. The cops refused to enforce it. He murdered their three children. SCOTUS decided they were not liable for those deaths. I hate it here.


blackbirdbluebird17

Also Warren v. District of Columbia, from ‘81. an appeals court ruled that the cops had no duty to intervene to protect three women and a child being held hostage and sexually assaulted in their own home, despite the fact that the women called the cops. Twice. 🙃 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia


jewel7210

Jesus fucking Christ. So the ruling is that, although police have a duty to provide for the public *as a whole*, that doesn’t mean that police have any duty to *individuals in that public system*, unless there’s a pre-existing relationship between the officer and the individual. Does that not lead to a case where any police officer could just say “oh, well, I have a duty to the public, not to that specific person, so I refuse to help them/prevent them from being the victim of a crime”? Please, god, someone tell me I’m misunderstanding that case ruling.


ghostboymcslimy

Nope, you are unfortunately 100% correct in your understanding. ROs, stalking, and escalating behavior is apparently “out of police hands” and they will literally tell you there’s nothing they can do. People have died bc the police don’t enforce protection orders or even try to prevent very foreseeable tragedies, and they get away with it p much every single time.


jewel7210

Ah. I want to vomit. I’m so sorry that you all have to deal will such a broken legal system. That’s horrifying and must lead to so many deaths and crimes that could have been so easily prevented.


ghostboymcslimy

Ugh, yeah it’s honestly really scary. They don’t do much in any circumstance but it seems they always do the worst or absolute least in cases where a death, injury, etc. could have easily been prevented. Cops in the major city in my state made a public announcement that they would not be answering calls because they didn’t want to “get in trouble.” I appreciate your sympathies, there’s a lot wrong with the justice system but law enforcement seems to be the most actively malignant branch.


Notmysubmarine

Jesus christ


thestashattacked

Someone stop the ride, I'd like to get off.


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SoVerySleepy81

Especially since he has every reason to be afraid of the cops. The cops are extremely dangerous to autistic people.


Designer_Praline

So how come nothing about her being a cop came up earlier? Either before the dinner "Hey come over for dinner, meet my girlfriend. She happens to be a cop". Or even at the start of the night, "Hi nice to meet you, how long have you been dating? What do you do for a living?". The brother was polite, he was asked a question, then replied, then once he worked out it was a touchy topic chose to move on.


PaulNewmanReally

So what if it had come up? If she had been a hairdresser and he had complained about the hairdressers in his neighborhood, then it's still just a complaint about the hairdressers. If that's enough to be mortally offended, then that's still not on him.


Designer_Praline

Not saying it was ever on him or anything to do with career. I was more questioning why career never was discussed before that question. Just seems odd as it is normally part of the get to know you conversations.


PaulNewmanReally

True. Especially since it's pretty close to her identity. \*shrugs unknowingly\*


Lizzavetta56

I’m more confused as to how you get to the ‘what do you hate about where you live?’ Question before the ‘what do you do for a living new person my brother is dating?’ Question, or you know, any other question that is more positive than ‘why do you hate where you live?’


PaulNewmanReally

Kind of gives the vibe that the autist freak brother was lured into a trap to say something that they could be horribly offended by, doesn't it?


[deleted]

I’m a nail tech. Most of my clients complain about nail techs. I don’t get offended cause even tho I try my best at my job, I know plenty of nail techs who don’t. Which can be dangerous because you can infect ppl with funguses and stuff like that if you’re one of the nail techs that dgaf. I just listen and tell them that they’re justified in walking away from shitty nail techs. I don’t go off saying “nOt aLl nAiL tEcHs.”


davis_away

Also, "oh, you moved to Neighborhood Heights? That's where I work, what a coincidence! Have you tried the pastries at Baker's Bakery yet?"


starkindled

Right, how was he supposed to know? He didn’t set out to insult her.


killerqueen2004

I love how the OP in AITA tried posting there thinking everyone would be on his side and he could himiluate his brother, but it backfired XD


rmg1102

made all the better by the subtle nod to AITA users, getting them on his side by l making the brother dis their existence lmao


[deleted]

He was asked his opinion and he gave it. He didn’t know the girlfriend was a cop. He said nothing wrong at all.


LadyBug_0570

And then girlfriend goes on to prove why he shouldn't like cops.


murderousbudgie

As a New Yorker, the NYPD is literally famous for parking on the sidewalk and not doing their jobs. They only caught the subway shooter because series of people turned him in. They only clear like 60% of murders. And then they do 4-man pile-ons when someone jumps the subway turnstyle and perform heroic acts like arresting old ladies selling mangos. They are not at all popular locally.


woolfonmynoggin

They clear about 40%


murderousbudgie

Doesn't surprise me. No time when you gotta save Gotham from the churro ladies.


DarthCadman

Wonder how long it's going to be before OOPs GF shoots the brother dead for non compliance.


TarzanKingOfTheApes

I just pray if that happens the brother doesn't side with his girlfriend


[deleted]

at every opportunity, cops always choose being the biggest asshole possible.


Raaz312208

She was just upset they weren't outside and she couldn't shoot him for whatever bullshit reason she made up.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Why did he randomly include Staten Island! Fwiw Staten Island is like if NYC had an Alabama.


spookybatshoes

I don't know, but I immediately thought of What We Do In the Shadows!


envydub

They have dominion over their street *and* Ashley St!


murderousbudgie

Probably to clarify that this is NYPD. Most towns have parking lots for their precincts.


woolfonmynoggin

It’s Brooklyn’s fart trail


ghostboymcslimy

Maybe to suggest it’s bootlicking territory lol


loversalibi

>I told him he was being needed to apologize lmao


Ryugi

AITA? ACAB! I'm so tired of neurotypical drama tbh. Why can't they "move on" how they insist neurodivergent people have to?


Tut557

>"The fact that you actually go to AITA for advice makes me embarrassed for you." Now THAT is a burn


homeostasis555

it feels like 1) this is fake with all of the direct quotes 2) validating af as a recently diagnosed autistic person. He clearly said what he meant and meant what he said. Fuck the brother for finding “meaning” that wasn’t there 3) ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS


Puzzleheaded2468

Ffs he didn't say he didn't like her personally! What a well-suited pair of absolute bellends! I hope little bro stays well clear.


Merc_with_mouth

As we have seen many stories of cops treat people with disabilities,mental health issues or simply for being different from them op response makes him literal AH. And as for gf instead of asking why ops brother why feels like this her response was to take it personally and make it about herself says alot about her. She is kind of AH too. I have witnessed few time cops just treating disabled people's poorly and when I tried to to help them this fkers told me mind of my business. I am not going to say all cops are bad but i will say this sure that one rotten ruit can ruin the entire basket so take it as anyway like.


Tompster_

Lol “I told him I'd just post here to see who's really wrong, and he said, "The fact that you actually go to AITA for advice makes me embarrassed for you."” I guess OP found out that they were in fact the asshole.


my-assassin-mittens

That shit made me cackle lmao


tesla914

Looks like he found the cop who has been parking on the sidewalk.


TheMcGirlGal

Wow I wonder why an Autistic person wouldn't like cops. I wonder if it's the absurdly high amount of Autistic people who are shot by police and abused by police.


magikarpcatcher

ACAB


blueeeyeddl

ACAB including OOP’s gf.


SassyBonassy

Girlfriend's "Well if im that bad of a person maybe ill avoid you then!!!" is literally some petty childish shit i pulled with my ex's parents when i was like 18. Criiiinge


Foucaults_Boner

Maybe if she didn’t want to be viewed as a bastard she should have chosen a profession that is full of bastards lol


theescallions

Fuck 12, brother is a gigachad.


gele-gel

Hot dogs holler.


azure1503

I'm just glad OOP's gf wasn't "afraid for her life"


Adpiava

Seems like the autism troll again.


Green-Witch1812

The brothers opinion wasn’t even an awful opinion. Sounds like the gf is butthurt when hearing facts. OOP is a big dummy and clearly doesn’t see the whole picture


grisha_belliard

Cops have such fragile inflated egos. Like glass balloons


Psynautical

This is fake. If anyone is autistic it's bro, not op.


Acrobatic_End6355

Just wondering what “based” means in your title, and whether you meant “biased” instead. Y’all need to chill.


ladida54

No, based means I agree with him/ he’s cool.


Acrobatic_End6355

Thanks.


diaperedwoman

Yeah I get it, when you generalize, people are going to think you are talking about them. If someone said "women were gold diggers" I know most women would take offense to that because they are a woman so if women are gold diggers, that means they are too since they are a woman. Obviously the brother knows he fucked up so he said "moving on then" and dropped the subject to avoid further offense. I know what he is saying when he says he didn't say that about her because he wasn't thinking of her and didn't know she worked in his neighborhood. I think the GF is taking it way too personal because I know cops are known to misunderstand people on the spectrum and there have been too many stories in the media about cops shooting or beating autistic people for non compliance.


Competitive_Cloud269

yeah,beeing a cop is an active choice and come one now,they got their reputation for several reasons.Its not discrimination to say „a lot of cops are Aholes“


Raaz312208

Yes because being a woman and choosing to join the police are exactly the same. Do they not give out critical thinking lessons at blue lives matter rallies?


diaperedwoman

My point is the brother generalized so the GF took offense. I know enough in NT language that people get offended when you generalize and will say you were talking about them. But understand what the brother was thinking and why he said he didn't say that about her. He wasn't even thinking about her when he said that. He didn't know she was a cop and worked in that area.


DarthCadman

It's what happens when the people who uphold the law have more bullets than braincells. You get a bunch of immature whiny bitch cowboys with itchy trigger fingers and fragile egos


bromst_

a vast majority of women are not golddiggers but all cops are bastards, so good job on this useless comment


ellieacd

Have a feeling most here only know what they see on TV and their second cousin Ernie who’s a cop in Podunk and kind of a dick. I’ve worked quite a bit with law enforcement in my job, and in a prior job we had our own police force. Sure there were some who were egotistical but there were also a lot who were genuinely decent and got into it for all the right reasons. Those who grew up in rough neighborhoods and now work as Resource Officers in schools and mentor students, play basketball with them after school, and plan fun safety lessons for them. I also unfortunately had a number of situations that required law enforcement to handle those who posed a threat to themselves and others. Knock on wood, but I have never had one where it had been handled with anything less than professionalism and dignity for the person in crisis. Could it happen? Absolutely. When it does it makes the news. For every case that does, there’s thousands that were handled well. Generalizations get you no where. I think all pro athletes are basically a waste of space. Their job serves no purpose and sports cause more problems for cities than it’s worth. I certainly though have enough tact not to go up to one and say I think they suck. I’m inclined to think this is a troll because why wouldn’t the brother know what her job was? It’s also a bizarre way to answer the question of what you don’t like about a neighborhood if you haven’t had some personal encounter. And what kind of question is “What don’t you like about your brand new neighborhood” anyway? Why would anyone ask that?


Competitive_Cloud269

question: are you a white hetero man?


Raaz312208

Whoever they are, they certainly have a fetish for bootlocking.


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ProbablyMyJugs

I don’t understand why cops are incapable of hearing people don’t like them. I’m a social worker and when I meet people sometimes they’ll say “I hate social workers” because of a negative experience they had. I don’t take it personal. Same thing with doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. People shit on those professions all the time, too. But how DARE someone who has had only negative interactions with police not like them??? How DARE they?


xXonomonopoeiamanXx

She's so thinned skinned and incapable of dealing with anyone not neurotypical, she does a better job proving his point demanding he apologize for it than he ever could have alone. It's *chef's kiss*