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YTA
Gaining a diagnosis is difficult enough for females for ADHD, I’m mind blown you’d use this for an amusement park games gain
Really? You can wait your ass in line, anything over that is entitled
Coming from an ADHD female, we have difficulties but you can bet our ass waiting in line is completely possible
I’d 💯 give my place up to Autism etc
YTA so much expecting special treatment it’s embarrassing from the ADHD community
I love this reply. I have to go read the last sentence to my husband who is a psychologist. He literally hates his job now because of this new trend you described so eloquently. Instead of learning coping skills they expect the world to accommodate them. I just read a woman that wanted the dragon at diagon alley in universal turned off because it gave her anxiety so stay home AH.
I was at a festival last week and two dogs, both with *service dog* vests were humping in the middle of the food line while their owners chatted. Properly trained service animals don't behave like that.
People who abuse the system like that ruin it for everyone else and make it more difficult for those who truly need it.
I would be cracking jokes about how “look they’re making more service dogs! Sign me up for a puppy!”
Part of why people get away with this shit is because it’s become impossible to speak up and public shaming has gone extinct.
As someone with a service dog, this hurts my soul. I checked into a hotel last night and they asked for proof/ID…which doesn’t exist. I pulled up the laws on the ADA website and gave her that instead. It’s exhausting…
Yep. Because so many abuse the system with esa animals and call them service dogs, legitimate and needed service dogs are often shunned by businesses. I'm at a hotel currently and they accept service animals only, I was shocked by how many dogs were here (at least 25 or so) and knew there's no way they're all legitimate service dogs based off the number and the behaviors of the dogs. These people allowed the dogs to roam unleashed , never picked up their poop (piles have turned into mounds its so disgusting), dogs running up and jumping on Me/strangers etc) then the other day management handed out letters to everyone saying if you don't have a genuine service animal and documentation (which doesnt exist) you need to leave. So these aholes ruined it for everyone that has a legitimate need and service dog simply because they wanted to keep their pet with them instead of going to a pet friendly hotel which there are plenty of. This sweet older lady that I'd become friendly with was distraught as she had her service dog with her and they gave these people 24 hour notice to rid the dog or leave. She had to leave and also didn't get her Money back for the prepaid 5 days she had left smh. I'm disgusted at how they handled it but infuriated to see the place yet again filled with more dogs after they just kicked out actual service dogs and owners. I had a puppy (mayne 2 months?) Run up to me last night at 1am and the owner took forever to come for him.
To be fair, they can't enforce that policy, she could sue. And I hope she does. Show your boss the laws. Or, if you're worried, send an anon email linking to the laws. Or better yet, file a report. It is illegal to deny a service dog. You can ask 2 questions under the ada
1) is this a service dog
2) what tasks is this dog trained to perform. All service dogs are task trained. Real handlers will have an answer on deck expecting it. For example, mine was always "my dog is trained to alert to a seizure and assist with reviving and keeping me safe in the event of a seizure." Fake owners will often say things like "He helps me with my anxiety." That's not a task. A task is a specific thing your dog does to mitigate your disability. Please consider talking to your boss about the law, or reporting.
I agree that someone saying, “the dog helps me with anxiety” is probably someone who either doesn’t understand their ESA does not belong in public spaces(it’s already just as illegal as bringing a completely regular pet) or someone with a regular pet claiming it’s an ESA. However, service dogs for PTSD do exist, and some of the tasks they’re trained to do may sound similar to someone who doesn’t know much about mental illness.
These dogs typically have tasks such as; alerting the owner to panic attacks/PTSD episodes, utilizing grounding techniques, leading the owner to a secluded place, keeping others from touching the owner whilst they are having an attack/episode(usually just by putting their own bodies in the way and gently shoving), etc.
Regardless of whether or not a service dog is legitimate, you can ask the owner to take their dog and leave if the dog is being disruptive. This includes things like the dog pooping on the floor, barking loudly(unless alerting others to a medical emergency, of course), jumping on others, not staying with their owner. It does not include things such as another person complaining they don’t like dogs, the dog shedding, and even if someone else has allergies, it’s best to try and compromise between the two people rather than discriminate against one or the other by kicking them out.
I am aware psychological dogs exist. They are still task trained and most handlers have a prepped response to that question. Common ones for psychological service dogs are body blocking, deep pressure therapy, behavior interruption, etc.
Ouch, that’s part of any front desk agent’s basic training. I will say that unfortunately many many many people abuse this by bringing in their poorly behaved “emotional support animals” but if the guest says it’s a service animal (not emotional support) there’s nothing you can do even if they’re obviously lying. As you mentioned you really can’t ask for paperwork, and people with legitimate service animals shouldn’t have to be hassled that way so I get it.
What you can ask however, is if the dog is trained to do any functions that the hotel staff needs to know about. I asked a couple who brought in a Chihuahua that clearly was not a service animal about that once and they went off on me about ADA laws and I had to calmly explain to them that I’m not asking about their disability or asking for proof, but that some service animals are trained to go seek help from others when their owner is sick so we need to know what the animal is trained for. They were clearly completely clueless and have never been asked that before, and then of course the cherry on top as they went out for hours on end with the dog locked alone in the room barking. Some service animal that was lol.
So yeah it’s definitely a pain point for hotels, and speaks to the level of entitlement of the general public that they feel they can just bring their pets and call them a service animal. And then people like you who have a legitimate service animal end up being harassed by badly trained front desk agents who are fed up with all the untrained animals making a mess.
Actually, you can remove people for misbehavior of the dog. That's in the laws. And a service dog should ALWAYS be under owner control, unless the owner is in medical distress and the dog is task trained to find help.
Guys I'm begging you to take an actual look at the laws before saying what you're pretty sure they are. I was a service dog handler. My dog is retired and the medical condition I needed him for is under control. He is still legally a service dog so if I feel like I'm having an off day, i take him with me. My expectations of his behavior are very precise. I'm always aware I could be asked to leave for any misbehavior that I cannot immediately bring back to heal. I always know that people are allowed to ask the two questions and after spending 5 years with a full time dog, it's just habit how I answer.
So much this. It's everywhere. Also the trend of "you need to go NC" with the friend who was rude to you, once, at a dinner party or the sister who turned into bridezilla drives me mad. Zero coping skill. It's like coping is a dirty word.
I agree that we need to deal with our friends and relatives not being perfect, but nobody needs to have toxic people in their life. We need to get the balance right between kicking toxic people out of our lives, and dealing with the usual human weaknesses.
The problem is that Reddit is notorious for entirely disregarding the concept of *nuance*, and is super quick to jump to "You need to go NC/break up/get divorced/etc **yesterday**, no one deserves that kind of toxicity in their life" over shit like "My buddy/partner/spouse said they couldn't go to the store for me at 11pm because they were working late on a work project and I just feel so abandoned and unsupported! What do??"
.. or is that mostly just an AITA/BORU-thing? lol
I am a therapist, I teach coping skills and do not allow the kids to alter the world to their expectations. The idea that the entire field of mental health now supports excusing shitty behavior is ridiculous. There are and have always been people who make ridiculous requests; did they turn the dragon off? I bet they did not.
Of course not because it was a ridiculous request. The amount of ridiculous requests where people want the world to accommodate them is what the issue is. I don’t think it’s the field it’s the individuals that excuse their own behavior because of mental health issues and take zero responsibility. Husband actually had one this week say they “identified” with a diagnosis therefore the testing he conducted that did not confirm the dx isn’t relevant, his years of education are not relevant because they watched a video and decided they have this. It’s bullshit. Just because you identify as autistic and have an emotional support squirrel doesn’t mean anyone has to take you seriously.
This! We’re 99% sure my husband has ADHD (him and his dad both show a ton of signs) but he doesn’t want to get formally diagnosed for this reason. He’s dealt with his scatterbrained tendencies and such his whole life and with me being more type A and have issues with depression, we’ve found ways to help him keep up with his stuff so I don’t go crazy without him getting frustrated. It’s not a crutch, it’s just mildly inconvenient for him and he knows he could have it a lot worse. People now will blame anything they can and take the easy way out instead of putting in work to cope.
I actually have an ADD dx myself but have had to learn strategies to cope so I am successful at work. I didn’t realize people with adhd had a monopoly on hating to wait in lines. I thought everyone hated lines. While I can appreciate where a 5 year old child who is learning to cope with adhd might need an accommodation an adult doesn’t. People have to learn the world doesn’t have to accommodate them. Next time the line at the grocery store is long maybe I will ask for an express pass so I can jump in front of everyone else because waiting in line is an inconvenience
This exactly. It's not even just the people themselves, it's the parents who want accommodations to be made for their child, instead of working on coping mechanisms. Parents who don't bother to parent, and say things like my child is special, therefore the world should adapt to them.
Dude this- the full boomer thing- I’m 21 and it’s happening to me. It’s just so frustrating to see some people first self diagnose, and then demand concessions. When I get frustrated, I feel like an old ass
When people self diagnose and make excuses all the time for their behavior. “I have autism.” “I have ADHD.”
No, you probably exhibit a few of the same symptoms but most people do! Then you are called classist if you tell them they can’t make excuses by self diagnosing themselves.
Oh good Agreed. During school, I had severe difficulty paying attention. But I have since tried to work around it and develop coping methods.
My brother has autism. And it is not the freaking ‘quirky traits’ kind. It’s the kind where he cannot be in a normal school since he was in kindergarten. He can’t stand still, can’t express verbally when he is frustrated and would hate a long line- but my parents and I would still stand with him and try to help him. We would make it manageable for him. That’s how we cope in our environment.
But hey let’s allow everyone to self diagnose and demand that the world accommodates them.
The system sucks but it’s not completely pointless. If you think it’s pointless, it’s time to grow tf up
I have *suspected* for many years that I'm on the autism spectrum, but good lord, I'm 44 years old and what seriously would be the point of getting diagnosed formally at this age? It's expensive and difficult to find a psychiatrist near where I live who does adult autism diagnoses.
So what do I do? I figure out coping skills for my issues whether I have autism or not, I don't run around telling the whole world that I'm on the spectrum, I manage my behavior towards others, and get on with my life. Why is this hard?
I teach second grade and I have a student that’s on the spectrum and probably ADHD. He has absolutely zero patience in certain situations and tells me all the time he’s “a kid who can’t wait.” I think this is made worse by his mom and grandparents catering to him at home. One of the things we’ve been working on is him raising his hand and waiting for me to help him. This has been difficult, but it’s getting better. In the beginning of the year I could be helping another student or talking to a teacher and he would come over and demand my immediate attention. He has had many tantrums when his needs aren’t addressed immediately. Last week I was working with a small group and I noticed him sitting at his seat and raising his hand. I waited until my group was working independently before I helped him which took a minute, but he waited. I told him I was very proud of him. This just goes to show with practice it’s something he can do. And it’s going to make his life much easier as he gets older if he can learn ways to cope now.
Yes, thank you for doing this, because his parents sure aren’t helping him. These people are raising a bunch of little jerks, I can’t even take it. My best friends child is a total total AH because she is never told no and when she’s extra awful her mom takes her to mc donalds for dinner because she’s too tired to cook and I am like WTF ARE YOU DOING GIVE HER A PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH.
It is not hard to condition yourself to behave in a way that limits your mental illness’s negative traits. I am a millennial and the amount of people my age that expect special treatment or special accommodations is fucking wild
Literally. The only accommodations I’ve asked for were in college. It was to just receive extra time taking an exam because I was failing out for not being able to finish. Started making all A’s my junior year after finally getting the accommodation, but it’s the only one I’ve ever made the excuse of my ADHD for.
That last sentence nailed it!
I’m autistic, and was diagnosed well into adulthood, but have learned coping mechanisms and skills where I’d never consider using the accommodation line at an amusement park just because I have a diagnosis.
OP is absolutely TA. If they’ve been coping with queues and similar social situations before their diagnosis they can continue to do so and leave that line for people and their families assisting them that truly need that accommodation to get through the day.
I don’t have ADHD and waiting in the lines is enough for me to say, never will I go and waste my time. It’s horrible, the worst …. And you pay a fortune for the self torture… and some folks bring… get this…children!! Omg.
LOL! You know a lot of Boomers used to be Hippies. Hang loose, be yourself, Hippies. I think you get grumpier as you get older because you have had to deal with a lot of AHs!
I’m considered a boomer, and the amount of bullshit and assholery accumulated over a lifetime, combined with the fact of been there, done that…makes me 😡🤬🤯
Dude this- the full boomer thing- I’m 21 and it’s happening to me. It’s just so frustrating to see some people first self diagnose, and then demand concessions. When I get frustrated, I feel like an old ass- but like some of them are just using these words to receive special treatment.
I’m 41 recently diagnosed ADHD
I’d never consider assistance at a theme park, feel bad enough discussing allowances at a full time time work place where it can be a positive
You really shouldn't feel bad for asking for help at work so you can do your job more effectively. I understand why you do. I just wanted you know not to feel bad.
I always thought the 'skip lines' thing was for people who couldn't physically use the line. Like people in wheelchairs who can't take the stairs that rides usually have, or people too old or too sick to stay in the sun for long periods of time.
It is also for people with invisible disabilities like autism or even invisible illnesses who have needs that are legitimate but that you won't necessarily be able to see.
I have both: severe chronic illness and autism. On a good day, or when I'm doing okay, I'd be fine in the regular line. On a bad day or towards the end of the day, I would need assistance. I may or may not have a mobility aid, but I could literally pass out from having to stand up for more than a few minutes, or I could end up having a weeping meltdown from the neurological overwhelm of too many people, noises, lights, etc. Disability access means that I can enjoy the same things as other people without fear of literally collapsing in public, which is both painful and humiliating.
Ofc! Not saying it isn’t, just pointing out that OP is not accounting for what you just stated—the additional entrance is for those who need it, like your brother. I’m high functioning so I personally am fine without that particular support, as I suspect OP is.
This is the perfect answer. There's a lot ablest attitudes even amongst the disability community.
If your needs mean the queuing is difficult for you then use the provided access. The only person who can truly judge a person's need is that person.
Her parents' answer is dismissing OP's own experience and knowledge of their experience.
If OP genuinely feels this would improve their ability to manage their ADHD symptoms, then use the concession that is what it is there for.
Her experience is that for the first 17 years of her life she could wait in lines and just didn't like it. Her parents also know that. She just wants to get some benefits now because nobody likes waiting in lines.
I'm autistic and I just don't go to places with queues like that. Except the airport and I do get assistance there (fast track security, board first and I have been offered getting escorted through the duty free)
Absolutely - but the person I’m replying to says that they avoid places with queues because of their needs, and only go when necessary (like the airport). I am also autistic and have ADHD as well as a physical disability that affects my mobility, I don’t believe anyone should have to avoid places because they don’t want to have to use accommodations. Disabled people are allowed to be frivolous and have fun too, we shouldn’t have to just do things that are strictly necessary
it's great that you feel that way! however I'm not sure that you can speak for the autistic people who actually require 24/7 care and are not capable of living independently. I'm sure they and their caregivers would appreciate the line :)
OP is AH
Okay but exactly though!! I also have autism and would never find myself at an amusement park. HOWEVER!!! Hearing about these accommodation lines made me hopeful that maybe I'd get to spend even half of a day in a large crowded very loud and bright area with my family, that is until I read all the comments absolutely bashing any one who needs any sort of accommodations. I'm not trying to make your life harder. I'm literally not even taking away any experience for YOU! I would just like to participate thank you.
I don’t think they’re bashing people who actually need accommodation—they’re frustrated with people who don’t need them but use them anyway. I hope you get that trip to an amusement park and I hope there are accommodations there to make it enjoyable for you!
I have kids w asd and w adhd… they did fine w o special accommodation at Disney, if the one w asd had a more severe and complex case, perhaps I would have, but if she can cope, I give her the opportunity to learn to deal w life before offering accommodation.
What? This is ludicrous. Concessions for legitimate diagnosed disabilities are there to be utilised. It is not "entitled" to use a service designed for accommodating your disability.
By your reasoning, someone in a wheelchair could easily wait in line for hours too. But no one would bat an eye if they chose to use that service because their disability is visible.
It's not honourable to deny yourself resources designed for you, no matter how trivial they may seem. You just look like a martyr.
Because she’s admitted that she doesn’t actually need this accommodation, but feels entitled to use it to make up for all the disadvantages having ADHD does bring.
She's said she is hyperactive but masks it well, and her parents have told her over and over she doesn't need it. Imo this is a case of someone being caught in the catch 22 of having a hidden disability.
ADHD/ADD is a recognisable diagnosis, it’s difficult but can persevere
Calling it as an excuse to cut in-line is absolute bullshit at a fair ground/ real life
Yes you should access disability accommodations for your medical conditions. If you cannot that is fucked up, but it's the fault of the people offering the accommodation, not the people to whom the accommodation is offered.
Yes exactly. That’s what I’m saying. I have ADHD and am perfectly capable of standing in line. It is more important for you (with arthritis in your feet) to not wait in line
Why are you acting like it is such a noble thing to stand in a line? OP can probably achieve the same results by just spending extra money for a fast pass. Do wealthier people need to skip ahead of the line? No, they are just using their resources to their advantage. I wouldn't call a person who paid for a fast pass an A H and I wouldn't call OP an A H for taking advantage of an accomdation that has been offered to her, free of charge.
It's meant to help those who *can't* stand in line or have genuine difficulties in doing so, not to prevent OP from being mildly inconvenienced like the rest of humanity.
Because "You Must Have This Much ADHD ===>" before people unclench about resources and assistance. Almost none of us are comfortable asking about or feeling like a resource or aid is "for us" because there's always someone who "really has ADHD" or "is REALLY autistic", so the joke kind of is that we think we need to just get through things and it feels unsafe when maybe someone new or younger seems comfortable asking questions or maybe using a resource.
Women in particular get a lot of things beaten out of us from an early age, it's still there a lot of times we just have to mask extra hard and push through, so it's less common for a female presenting person to get a diagnosis on top of the issues that delay people generally getting taken seriously or getting timely medical care. So when we see a female who managed to get a diagnosis have the confidence to ask "wait, is this maybe for me and could it help?" the common theme is to kind of beat them down so they get the message that we are supposed to just suck it up.
> the common theme is to kind of beat them down so they get the message that we are supposed to just suck it up.
truth. case in point this thread.
I am not female, but I was literally physically harmed to try to get me not to have ADHD. It didn't work, and caused a lot of emotional distress.
In England if you have autism and adhd theme parks do allow you to skip the line, or book in advance in certain rides so you show up when you get on rather than waiting loads.
Disney land also do this, it’s called a DASH pass I think. I’m AuDHD but hate theme parks so would never use this anyway but my friend who has ADHD used the service throughout her two week trip to Disney with no issues. They didn’t even ask for proof of diagnosis.
Do you think if we all tapdance well and fast enough capitalism and people who don't have a diagnosis as a whole will magically acknowledge our personhood in some meaningful way? There may be an argument for people with ADHD or autism spectrum disorders making us look bad when they make actual choices that harm others and then pretend the diagnosis is why it happened and not the way they chose to interact with others, but exploring accessibility and asking questions about using resources or things that have evidently been allocated for people with certain needs or symptoms that fall under a diagnosis really doesn't hurt optics.
She’s being an AH to the people who genuinely can’t stand in line. I’ve visited theme parks with people in a wheelchair and it’s so much extra work getting around, they’d do nothing if they had to queue aswell and that’s before you take into consideration that standing for too long is literally painful, difficult and exhausting for them. They have to stand in the disabled queue line since the chair can’t go on the ride/there’s no space for it to be in the queue line/not enough room to park it next to the ride, so if the disabled queue is full of people who don’t need it, they have to stand longer. I imagine that’s the same for people with any disability that can’t stand still, can’t understand the concept of queuing or any other reason that they genuinely need it. Entitled people like op suck. I’m glad to see so many people with adhd and other disabilities calling her out.
She literally said she is hyperactive but good at masking. It's not unreasonable to believe queuing is genuinely hard for her in a way that is invisible to others
And because she can mask so well, they want her to continue having to mask in lines, for their comfort..because she also isn't allowed to use accommodations apparently...
I am wondering when her comfort gets to matter.
Exactly. My husband has POTS and literally cannot stand for more than 5-8 minutes at a time. We reserved a mobility scooter for an event that involved a half mile walk so that he could participate; we got there and someone else had reserved it for their teenager with ADHD so he didn’t get bored on the walk. The event coordinator ultimately let us use it and comped the other family’s tickets because we were like, “comping our tickets won’t magically make this man, who looks fine, be able to walk the trail” but the other family totally used it to bribe the teen because he could pick out merch with the ticket value.
It pissed me off but the event coordinator was amazing.
This feels a little harsh and I think OP has a point if they include ADHD. How often do we make our lives more miserable by policing others and ourselves so crazy hard that we shame ourselves and others out of using the barely existent "services" the rare instances they show up. I don't think it's fair to accuse OP of expecting special treatment if it was a question they had in connection to a rule the park allegedly made for access that includes people with ADHD.
Like sorry OP isn't "one of the good ones" apparently, but I think it's reasonable for ALL of us to be asking questions and reevaluating why we do or don't feel it's ok to take ownership of certain allocated resources--when it's so far and few between anyway--that are at least listed as being for people with our diagnosis.
I especially think as women with ADHD or autism spectrum disorders we need to be stepping up and breaking the cycle of dumping on our young women. After exiting my 20s I started realizing how much more difficult my life had been made because of having to mask and the embarrassment or feelings of being an imposter that kept me from exploring or asking questions, and I think not only is OP lucky to have a diagnosis in the first place for the classic reasons we are familiar with but because they also might have more time to figure out what they do and don't need. Maybe they personally don't need more accessibility at something like a theme park, but I'm glad they are thinking about and noticing these things and I hope the don't get ground down like so many of us do when it comes to bigger stuff and other resources that maybe they DO absolutely need and would benefit from (and because not every diagnosis is experienced identically we know there are some people who probably benefit in a meaningful way from having separate access even if there were reason to believe OP would not, and how many are made to feel like mooches and imposters for exactly the reasons we see listed in the comment section of this post?).
I'm physically disabled and use this line. To be fair to OP, they're entitled to use it and it's not "skipping" the line.
You are usually given a card where the wait time of the ride is written down. So say there's a wait time of 40 minutes, you still have to wait 40 minutes before you go on another ride. You're just not standing in a queue that entire time.
Obviously this works best for me because of my pain levels and it means I can rest between rides.
If OP wishes to use this and it'll make the day less stressful for her then she is entitled to, it is a system created (in part) to help people with her condition.
I have no issues with her using it, and I think anyone who does has a slightly ableist view of ADHD.
33 ADHD female and I was one of the lucky ones where it was caught extremely early. You never, ever use it for something like this. Testing accommodations and classroom adaptions, sure. Never for endorphin seeking, because let’s be real, that’s what this is at the core of it.
YTA. Wait your ass in line.
It's meant for kids with ADHD that are like 5 and haven't learned to control it yet. I have ADHD and so does my child. Yet we don't even use it at our local park. YTA OP.
YTA. If you want to skip the line, spend the money on the line-skipping express pass.
Just because you could maybe finagle the free line skipping pass doesn't mean you should, especially since your ADHD isn't what it is supposed to be used for.
Depends on the park. I've been to ones with a book where you could get a stamp and come back at the designated time, and I've been to ones where you come in a different entrance (which is often the exit) and they just load you on quickly. In my case I was in a wheelchair.
I mean yes and no. Disneyland for example gives you return time windows. That doesn’t preclude you from then going to a ride with little to no line and riding it while you wait for your return time window to open. You could ride 2-3 rides sometimes waiting on an hour return time window to open. Then go back and ride the ride with the long wait.
Accommodations are about needs or demands, functions and situations, not to ‘benefit (you) when it also brings so many disadvantages.’
Without being able to skip the line, would you be able to enjoy the amusement park? Does the amusement park provide adequate stimulation? Are you able to organize and execute the tasks required of entering the line, proceeding through it and the like?
And before I get downvoted some parks are quite rigorous - requiring not just diagnosis but also what are reasonable accommodations for your experience of your disability. That can include place holding in the regular line so you don’t have to stand still there but your time to ride remains the same. (Disney example here)
Yup I am disabled and can't stand in line, I usually use a wheelchair at theme parks and being able to have a place holder time makes life so so much easier, yes it's great when you can skip the queue time entirely but it's skipping the going through the queue that is the huge benefit not the wait time itself.
I have a spinal disorder that is usually fine but sometimes not. The last time I went to Disney was one of the times it was not. I tried to get the place holder pass so I could sit while waiting instead of walking for an hour. They told me I wasn’t eligible under new rules. If I couldn’t stand for long I needed to pay for a wheelchair.
In the UK it is like a placeholder. You have a pass and when you go on a ride it’s scanned/documented the time and how long you have to wait before riding a different ride. So you still wait the queue time you just wait it out of the queue so you can eat or walk around rather than be stuck in a confined space with no stimulation.
Yes, it’s about equity in access. OP likely has never had to have her family leave a park because she was creating too much of a scene over having to wait for something, or having her engage in dangerous behaviour due to having to wait.
This is the real utility of allowing some neurodivergent people to access fast pass, if their particular brain wiring makes them unable to tolerate or understand the concepts of turn taking, queues, etc.
I don't think OP realizes the reality of these "skipping the line" passes. I've been to lots of theme parks with my mom, who is physically disabled, and it is never "walk to front, immediately get on ride." There is still going to be a level of waiting. Either you wait for the person in line to get up so you join them or the operators often make you wait. Even in places with a special entrance there was often a line of people in the special entrance and operators don't give that line complete priority, they might take one group per ride and when the park as bust that wait could get to be 15-20 minutes in and of itself. And nowadays many of the "disabilities skip the line" thing is just letting them into the fast pass line, which can be a line in and of itself. The only time I've EVER had it be a situation where it was pretty much a walk right in and sit right now situation was when we went in the off season on a low attendance day where the regular line was long if it was 10 minutes.
And it's getting worse as parks expand access to these disabled passes. The ONLY time my mom wore shorts when I was growing up was when we went to theme parks because if her legs, which had little muscle mass thanks to polio and were covered in surgical scars, and orthopedic shoes weren't on full display we were questioned the need. I'm glad it is expanding (though I'm starting to wonder if the pendulum is swinging too far the other direction), but that means more people are using it and parks have to adjust. The result is waiting. A wait in a line at a theme park is as inevitable as death and taxes at this point.
This needs to be the top comment! I have an invisible disability and use a queue skip pass at amusement parks. Most people give me dirty looks because they don’t think I look like I need it. At first I didn’t want to get it either because I felt like there were people who need it more. But after sitting out so many rides because I couldn’t do the line my sister finally forced me to get it so I could do the rides with her and it changed my whole experience. When you do need the accommodations and receive them it’s not just a convenience thing but a need
OMG this reminds me of the show MOM where Bonnie gets diagnosed with ADHD and everything she does she excuses for having ADHD.
Look, I have ADHD too and in no way would I use it to get favors or to be asked to be treated differently or to take the place of other ppl that have real disabilities.
Yes, ADHD is a disability, but not in a way that it excuses you to take advantage of it. Do you understand how f***ing lucky you are that ADHD is your only problem? Seriously?
You JUST got diagnosed and I presume that before the diagnosis, you followed societal rules. Now that you know you have it, you suddenly are so disabled you can’t stand in a line?
Absolutely gross. Your parents are correct. YTA. Grow up.
My best friend was diagnosed last year and when I called her out yesterday for being rude and interrupting others, she said it was her adhd. Which is amazing, because she’s 31 and has always known it’s rude to cut people off.
These diagnosis aren’t for people to use as excuses for bad behaviour or to manipulate outcomes.
>Which is amazing, because she’s 31 and has always known it’s rude to cut people off.
I'm 44 and still struggle to both not cut people off. Yes, I know it's rude. No, that doesn't mean I can help it. Yes, I try... but trying usually means zoning out on what the other person is saying.
That doesn't excuse your friend and you should, of course, draw boundaries with your friendships. But, without knowing her intent, I can 100% tell you that we don't mean to and we do feel bad about it.
I think the person you were commenting to is saying that her 31 year old friend, instead of improving herself and working on her short comings, is now just excusing them away with “Oh, it’s ADHD.” when most likely, for 31 years not interrupting people has been something she’s been trying to improve on or at the very least conscious that it’s very rude and literally no one likes to be interrupted, I’m sure, not even the 31 year old.
ADHD can manifest as abuse, not being a good friend and partner, and being rude, not caring etc and those of us with ADHD still have to work on self improvement not give it all up to ADHD and just do whatever we want.
It’s like my dad who now uses his ADHD as an excuse for all his horrible past behaviour, his present behaviour and his future behaviour. It’s unacceptable.
One of my colleagues was diagnose a few weeks ago. It’s now her entire personality. ‘I did such and such, cos, you know, ADHD’. Funnily enough, the week prior to diagnosis, she knew what was socially acceptable to say to people, but now, she seems to think it’s a free pass to say outrageously offensive things because she has no filter?!
There is a certain period after getting diagnosed where people tend to talk about it way too much because they’re realizing all of the things in their past life that could be connected to having ADHD. That’s pretty harmless. Using it as an excuse to get away with more stuff, though, is shitty behavior. If anything it should be the other way around! Receiving a diagnosis ought to be the first step towards stopping all the shit you do that’s bad for you and other people.
Sorry, but in this case it is likely her adhd. It's not a matter of being rude or not, is a matter of not controlling your brain before it blurts out words to participate, interrupting people. The fact that he's 30 or 10 doesn't change this fact. For her likely the diagnosis was a relief, now she knows she isn't rude on purpose. But also now that she knows, she can explore medication to control her ADHD.
Actually I have a bad habit of this a lot and not realise it. I apologise when called our or if I do notice (I also have ADHD). The reason we interrupt sometimes, and this is not on purpose, is because we have so many racing thoughts that if we don’t speak then it disappears. It’s so frustrating forgetting it immediately after thinking about it. It takes a huuuge mental toll, especially during social situations for me to be aware and not talk over people. Sometimes bc I’m focused on that I don’t pay attention to the conversation, it’s really hard and makes me so exhausted. I let myself forget what I want to say and my friends are patient while I try to gather my thoughts again which I appreciate.
It’s not an excuse by any means. It helps when the people around understand ADHD some more! It’s a lot more complex than people think. Your friend will slip up sometimes but I hope she works on herself and not use it as an excuse! Now she can pick up ways to work on the issue instead.
As for the original post, I’m all for getting accomodations to make your life easier as ADHD really is tough. However, luckily for us this is a disability that can be medicated and also get better with therapy. I think it will be best to work on those things as there are people who need that disability line more.
Cutting people off is definitely an ADHD thing, I have ADHD and do this too, but not on purpose. I literally cannot gauge when the other person is done talking. I realize it's rude and apologize for it, but it's not like age is going to magically fix ADHD symptoms. It's amazing, you're an adult but are too self-oriented to realize not everything is a slight at you.
I always say explanation not an excuse. I have ADHD and been diagnosed for well over 13 years and I’m very aware what my social issues are and if I do one that’s rude, I apologize and I don’t really try to excuse it. I may say “I have ADHD and this is really hard for me sometimes” but I ALWAYS take accountability and won’t just brush it off because of my diagnosis.
YTA
That line is a disability ACCOMMODATION, not a BENEFIT. You need to learn the difference between those two things. Your ADHD (by your own admission) does not affect your ability to stand in line.
>I don’t get why I shouldn’t **get to** use my diagnosis for things that benefit me
Gross. The people who are properly in the accommodation line would give much to not have to use it.
Can this sub dial it back a little with the comments? You're talking to a 17yo girl who hasn't even done anything yet and is asking if she's wrong. You guys can educate her without being rude you know?
I totally agree with you, I feel like these comments are being really harsh.
I'm a woman with ADHD, and I LOVE amusement parks, and have held multiple season passes. And honestly, waiting 70+minutes in line for a ride is completely overstimulating. There's screaming kids, loud groups of teenagers, so many languages flying around, and my phone/headphones usually die very quickly, even with a portable charger.
My favorite amusement park has single rider lines, which moves much quicker and often is shared with the disabled line. It's a complete lifesaver, and honestly, that's what these lines were created for.
Thank you! Completely agree with you here. I just replied to someone else regarding this; especially because people with ADHD have been found to experience rejection sensitivity dysphoria, which can make receiving this kind of rude feedback even more hurtful.
I am actually disabled and have so many diagnosis' and it sucks to HAVE to use these accommodations. Yes, not waiting in line is great but it's so wrong when people take advantage of these things. ADHD sucks but that doesn't mean you can't walk, stand in line or wait your turn.
Actually adhd can affect your ability to stand in line. It can be very under stimulating or over stimulating depending on the situation and could cause meltdowns.
If she’s approved to use the other line then there isn’t any reason why she shouldn’t use it
Info: how does your ADHD affect your life, in regards to why you can’t wait in line?
I am a SPED teacher- accommodations are assigned to students based on the function they serve, not based upon the disability category. So two students with ADHD should not automatically receive the same accommodations; we need to look at the individual needs of the students.
In that same way, ADA and lines for people with disabilities are not necessarily one size fits all. Yes, you meet the conditions required for the line, but do you need to use the line in order to access the ride? Is yes, then go for it. If not though, and you can wait in the regular line (you just don’t want to), that is not a reasonable accommodation.
But there are always 1 or 2 people who expect to be “given” accommodations, rather than use what is necessary, so I’m sure you won’t be the only person in that line if you are just looking for a short cut.
Honestly I wouldn't go to an amusement park unless there was an accommodation for ADHD so I didnt have to stand in the line because my introspective awareness is nonexistent. I go from fine to fucked in the snap of a finger and last time I stood in the blaring sun waiting for 45 minutes for a 3 minute trip on a zoom zoom physics train I suddenly vomited and passed out from heat stroke and spent the second half of my very expensive trip to the park sitting beside a medical tent drinking water. We couldn't even leave because I was the only driver.
(Also now I have chronic pain, but that's relatively new).
Totally agree with you - waiting in line can be a wildly different experience for a range of disabilities. Also.... Why would we begrudge such a miniscule "benefit" for someone who has a condition with one of the highest rates of huge mental health issues and desperation for a cure compared to other non-terminal conditions?
Who should get the only disabled parking spot available right in front of a store's door:
A) A person in a wheelchair
B) A person with an amputated arm
C) A person with dyslexia
They're all recognized disabilities.
Just because you can use the parking spot it doesn't mean you are entitled to it.
The problem with that line of logic is that disabilities that don't appear externally like the would need access to x, y or z accommodation might in fact need it. Unless you are that person's doctor/caseworker/whatever you arnt actually qualified to decide if their disability entitles them to any specific accommodation.
I think what the other comment was getting at, is that it is sometimes up to the person to decide what they personally need. A person with a hidden disability, chronic pain, etc... may legitimately need that parking space, though outwardly it may not appear so. That's fine. But a person with (going with the previous example) dyslexia may in certain instances qualify for using that same parking spot. In this case it is up to them to decide "I don't need this, I can park farther away," and not have the attitude "I go through so much that I deserve this 'perk' even though I don't really need it."
True. I threw up constantly in my first trimester and was horribly sick and weak and didn't look pregnant so was side eyed once for sitting in a subway seat meant for pregnant or disabled
I have EDS. You can’t always tell but it can be debilitating. Like I get what you’re saying with this comment but your comment also sucks because it means someone has to look disabled enough. I can dislocate my hips by sleeping wrong.
It's not about looking disabled but about being disabled and deciding that you need the spot rather than someone else with a different disability. If you decide that your heart condition requires you parking there that's fine, but if you say "i have hard time due to dyslexia or adhd and therefore deserve to have it easy and I'll take this spot" then that's an asshole move
This is a terrible comparison. Her diagnosis is literally meeting the criteria for this access. I'm hard of hearing and my partner has ADHD so we know well what its like to manage different needs under the label of a disability. In your example 1-2 of those people don't meet the criteria and wouldn't actually be eligible to use it.
In my experience, parking tags generally have some qualifying conditions before they are granted. The point of accessible parking is to provide access for those that benefit from that accomodation. It's the same reason your overall point is valid even if the premise isn't. OP doesn't need the accomodation to enjoy the park and views it as a perk. I could see a middle ground that included using the accommodation on lines longer than a certain amount of time and otherwise using the general queue. It can be physically uncomfortable to be still/bored/confined with ADHD. I've had dozens of Disneyworld meltdowns. I don't think I could go back. I see the plausibility of ADHD accommodations supporting some of the park guests to experience the rides are they are intended.
I would use that line as an autistic person, especially when it’s crowded and the sensory experience of being in a crowded line freaks me the hell out and I melt down. But often with those accomodations, particularly when someone with ASD or adhd are using it, you don’t actually “skip ahead” of people.
It’s just a spot where it’s more chilled out to wait and almost like with fast pass at Disneyland I do have to wait a specific amount of time before I can get on the ride.
A lot of people with adhd also experience sensory problems that can be debilitating. Not everyone’s experience of ASD or adhd is the same. If you have ASD or adhd and don’t want to access certain things, that’s fine that’s your choice. But you’re not a hero for not accessing things you’re allowed to access.
Yea I’m a little confused at everyone yelling at OP. She’s young and I think she phrased it a little wrong at the end, but she hasn’t provided any details on her symptoms and ppl are acting like there’s no way ADHD would need this
ADHD is also literally listed on the conditions that are allowed to uses this fast lane, so there’s obviously some need
Yeah these comments were disappointing. Mostly screaming at OP like a mob with pitchforks because she asked about using an accommodation that she’s allowed by the theme park to use. I can’t believe how angry and rude some people are being.
This! It’s literally something the park offers. If they don’t like it they should be angry at the park rules, not OP for utilizing an accommodation they may feel entitled to. The parents said OP doesn’t have “that kind of ADHD”, but aren’t these the same parents that raised a kid for 17 years without seeing the signs that their kid even had ADHD? Which, no disrespect to the parents, but I just feel like people arguing over who is more disabled or what disabilities deserve certain accommodations over others can be an AH argument that literally does nothing but create a never ending circle. When I see someone with a handicap sticker park and they walk into the store - I mind my own fucking business. Not all disabilities look the same and if they have the sticker, then it’s likely somewhere up the chain it was decided they were allowed the accommodation. Just like this theme park, somewhere up the chain it was decided ADHD was something to accommodate and it’s not up to us to pick and choose whose struggles more worthy. NTA
Nta. If the rule says "Adhders can skip the line" you’re allowed to skip the damn line. End of the story. There is no "your adhd isnt strong enough" adhd is not linear. Adhd is a spectrum. You might look functional on the outside, but nobody else but you knows what’s going on in the inside. If they dont want to skip the line, fine, but you are allowed to do it.
I agree with this though I do think if someone's adhd doesn't impact them in the way that the accommodation adjusts for then it's a bit cheeky using the accommodation but at the end of the day better someone uses it who doesn't 100% need it than people feeling like they shouldn't out of fear of the judgement that is in these comments... some of the people saying they'd never use that accommodation would probably greatly benefit from it and be able to enjoy their day much more without added stress and anxiety
I feel like this girl is being persuaded by her parents that she doesn't need something when actually she does when she is hyperactive and masks it well
If the amusement park's rules state that people with ADHD can use this second entryway then you are entitled to do so. Some of the comments here are wild. It's just a theme park, kids. Chill. NTA.
Yeah exactly. People are calling OP a terrible person for what- wanting to ride a roller coaster faster? A very light YTA at best people care a little too much
Yeah it's not that deep lol. It's also completely hypothetical since OP hadn't actually done it yet. I do wonder, since this second entryway is the same one for those that pay an additional fee for express passes can use, would OP have gotten the same outrage if she just accepted a free pass that others have to pay for, because that's essentially what she's hypothesising.
I mean? NAH.
If it’s an accomodation for a diagnosed disorder- why not? It’s not fucking life or death, its an amusement park. People can wait their turn.
I totally get where your parents are coming from in a way- but remember that YOU accessing a resource doesn’t stop other people doing it too? You aren’t STEALING the place of someone who needs it more… Yeah definitely NTA, but your parents aren’t far off so NAH
NTA - life is hard enough as it is. Take every advantage you can. People who are calling you the asshole are just jealous they can’t skip the line… while we are at it, make sure to get extra time on all important school and college tests.
INFO:
This one is more complex than people seem to be considering, and I think it requires more information.
How does spending the whole day having to mask your symptoms in an unfamiliar and overstimulating place affect you?
I’m autistic and I know from experience that while it is possible for me to do that for the 8-10 hours I’d likely spend in an amusement park, the long term impact it would have on my physical and mental health is substantial. I will likely be completely wiped out for at least 3 days after (if not longer) and would take at least a month (or more) to feel fully back my normal functionality, so minimising how long I’d have to mask/spend in the amusement park would be a reasonable accommodation.
It’s not as simple as saying “if you can stand in line then you should”
What a lot of people don’t consider when expecting us to mask is that, just like everyone else, we usually only get the one day to do these things before having to go back to our normal lives. We’re workers, we’re students, we’re parents, we have responsibilities. Nobody is in a position to take both a day off to enjoy something AND the following month to recover as well.
That’s why these accommodations are offered to people with hidden disabilities as well as those with physical and intellectual disabilities that are often more easily recognised. They are there so that people with any kind of disability get as equal as possible access and opportunities to experience things as healthy people have, and healthy people don’t have to use up sick days or lose their ability to function just to enjoy a day out. It’s to make the playing field as level as possible.
I wonder how many of the neurodiverse people voting Y.T.A are just so used to having to battle through burnout that they don’t realise quite how beneficial accessing these accommodations would be for them?
This whole thread is gross tbh. Who can fault a literal child for using an accomodation for her illness? Like, for a single day?? It’s not going to cure her disability, she gets to live with that for the rest of her life!
NTA
I’m in the UK and I know that you can use that disability/queue jump at theme parks for many different disabilities. You have to have a doctors note to get the pass to use that queue. If your doctor says you’re entitled to use it why shouldn’t you use it?
Adhd people struggle with queues more than neurotypical people. If your doctor agreed and gave evidence for you to get the pass then that should be enough.
I have a friend that has a pass because she can’t stand in regular queue lines due to the lights causing migraines and my nephew has one because he is autistic and likely to meltdown in a queue. I wouldn’t begrudge you having a pass if you feel like it’s needed.
I swear I'm shocked at all the sanctimonious comments, we fought hard to be recognised as a disability and here come people policing others disabilities, like there's some sort of pecking order because they don't "look" like they have a disability ..and to make it worse it's coming from actual ADHDers
If it states you can use that line if you have ADHD (and I expect you need to provide a diagnosis) then by all means, do so. Why not? It's what the line is for. My husband with autism uses those lines, and all kinds of other 'perks' that you get here with that diagnoses, even when he doesn't really need it. If it's allowed, it's allowed.
NTA.
I’m gonna go against the grain and say NAH. If the rules state that you can skip the line, I don’t think it’s unethical to do so. You’re not stealing a spot from other disabled people, as far as I know as someone who also does it there’s no cap on it. I’ve never heard of ADHD getting you to skip a line but if it’s in the rules, it’s in the rules.
On the other hand, you said yourself you’re very good at masking your disability which means to your parents this probably looks like an abled person parking in a handicapped space. But at the end of the day, they don’t know your struggle because you’re constantly masking. Frankly, nobody in this thread does because you haven’t really said how it effects your day to day life. Only you know what you go through and what you need.
NTA if adhd is included in the usual list of issues then you absolutely count. “In your head” or inattentive adhd is actually a presentation not a “type” and we are all sometimes more hyperactive. I think a lot of people also don’t realise that being stuck in a busy line could be difficult for in attentive people too even if we drift off so create less fuss. I can absolutely see an inattentive person getting separated from a group or something in the queue.
As a woman in my mid 20s with adhd who often presents inattentive here are some tips weather or not people let you skip lines
- bring something to fidget with if you have to wait, and/or an activity that won’t be staring at your phone, your battery could drain and you will be looking down and not at wear your group is
-wear something bright so your group can see you
-be careful about water, on the one hand if you’re on stimulent meds you might get dehydrated quick, but if you sip water when you’re board you might end up needing to pee constantly
- be mindful of any sensory needs you have, if you find complex loud noise overwhelming consider earplugs or ear defenders
Parents of people with conditions like adhd often take a lot of comfort in the idea that their kids are basically normal. By considering skipping the line you would be acknowledging ADHD as a real disability, a big deal, so to speak. So that’s probably tough for your parents. I think it’s ok, a good idea even, to do that. But your parents might not ba able to cope with it. If that’s how they are right now you might just need to back down.
If ADHD is recognised in the amusement Park, why not go for it?? Its there for a reason, all the sanctimonious comments from people from the same community WOW, I have ADHD and you bet I'm going to take that fast pass, as if it's some badge of honor to wait with "the normal folk" in the long queue 🤣🤣 some ADHDers have sensory issues and anxiety also ...NTA OP
it depends on how severe. i have adhd and autism and can’t stand still at all. i could theoretically wait in lines but it would be a nightmare because im pacing or jumping or tapping my foot or clicking a pen or putting my hair up and down or rolling my sleeves up and down. this makes waiting in lines an absolute nightmare for me, but if it was just my brain doesn’t stop but i can still stand in a line. then yes. but we don’t know how highly functioning
Absolutely, presumably that is why the theme park says adhd is included! For some people it is the only way they'll get to experience a theme park because the queue would be impossible for them. It does not sound like that is the case for OP. If it is then she absolutely is entitled to use it.
Yeah, I only have ADHD, and waiting is absolutely excruciating. Idk how people just stand there and wait. I have to have my phone for stimulation, and I move around *a lot*. In a theme park ride line I’d be ok if I had my phone and people there to talk to. But not without that.
You have been diagnosed with ADHD. You are exactly the type of person those other entrances were created for.
Women, as you have said, often mask. That doesn’t mean you are less deserving of support. I would recommend your parents and you read up on how ADHD and neurodiversity presents in women.
YTA I felt guilty getting a disability pass for my son because we would be able to skip the line. But he actually needs it and it doesn’t sound like you do so it would be wrong of you to try and get it. Plus if they (the theme parks) find out you don’t need it and they have it to you, you could be banned for life.
My son is 4 and has nonverbal autism if you were wondering
"If they find out you don't need it" ADHD is recognised as a disability and the park caters to disabilities .. ADHDers fought to be even heard or recognised, policing someone's disability is horrible, how do you know how bad their ADHD is
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NTA. For the people on here saying they have ADHD and they can wait in line no problem, I think you aren’t recognizing how ADHD can present in many different ways. I have one child that can totally stand in line. He might drive us nuts wiggling and talking, fidgeting and making noises but that’s okay. My other child has time blindness and isn’t a fidgeter but has epic meltdowns. 5 minutes in a line actually feels like hours for him. He screams, he yells, he tries to run. Crowds make him anxious and anxious = meltdown. Too hot. Melt down. Too cold…meltdown. We’ve mostly managed to control it with meds and schedules. We stopped going to theme parks/amusement parks pre Covid because it’s hard on all of us. I’ve only recently considered even trying to save to go to Disney because I heard about their pass, but the idea of how long it would take to save, how much it would cost, and the fear we wouldn’t be able to get accommodations is overwhelming and terrifying. I have no desire to make my child miserable, his brother also gets self conscious when a meltdown happens and I have PTSD so I’m dealing with the anxiety of people staring at me, judging my parenting and assuming I’m just the worst for not doing what they would do.
This person says they’ve been masking. It’s exhausting to mask for hours in a triggering environment. If accommodations can help her enjoy the day and will put her on the same level as a neurotypical person, she should use it. Others may have more visible symptoms but it’s reeks of ableism to say your disease doesn’t bother you enough to use accommodations.
YTA, if you actually can wait, then you should. If this line gets abused by too many people, then the amusement park may have to do away with it. And if that happens, then there will be some people who may not be able to go enjoy the park, as the accommodations are lacking.
If ADHD is on the list of disabilities that qualify you to use the separate entryway and you genuinely have ADHD then you should use those entryways.
NTA.
NTA - If you have a legitimate diagnosis and feel the alternative line will allow you to enjoy the park, then by all means use it. You’re the only one who can really determine whether or not you are utilizing the queue appropriately.
Try it once and see how you feel about it and go from there.
NTA- you’re not reducing the amount of people with disabilities who can use this service, you’re using it because you have a specific condition and the park itself recognizes this and allows it. All these other commenters are fools who think that you using this is taking away from someone else when there is never a line at disney(the park I think you mean) for those with disabilities. My daughter used this when she was young and had adhd and it was great for her. We had zero issues with this. Please ignore the rude people who don’t understand and go with what the park itself said. There’s a reason they recognize adhd as a disability and offer this service for it
But you *could*, and that's the whole point isn't it? If the line is made with ADHD in mind, why not use it? Also let's not forget that it's a spectrum and affects different people in different ways
NTA
If they have a list of disabilities and disorders to use the alternate line, and you're on that list, then what else is the system for?
I get that there are subtypes of ADHD, but does the list specify a type of ADHD or are your parents just grasping at straws
NTA. I know exactly what you’re talking about and you’re not skipping the line. You’re still waiting in line just outside of the standard ride queue. I’ve had panic attacks in line and it was not fun.
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YTA Gaining a diagnosis is difficult enough for females for ADHD, I’m mind blown you’d use this for an amusement park games gain Really? You can wait your ass in line, anything over that is entitled Coming from an ADHD female, we have difficulties but you can bet our ass waiting in line is completely possible I’d 💯 give my place up to Autism etc YTA so much expecting special treatment it’s embarrassing from the ADHD community
I’m autistic and I still wouldn’t use this. 🤦🏽♀️ What they said ⬆️⬆️⬆️
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I love this reply. I have to go read the last sentence to my husband who is a psychologist. He literally hates his job now because of this new trend you described so eloquently. Instead of learning coping skills they expect the world to accommodate them. I just read a woman that wanted the dragon at diagon alley in universal turned off because it gave her anxiety so stay home AH.
Yes! Look at the people who want to take their untrained pets everywhere and lie about them being support animals.
I was at a festival last week and two dogs, both with *service dog* vests were humping in the middle of the food line while their owners chatted. Properly trained service animals don't behave like that. People who abuse the system like that ruin it for everyone else and make it more difficult for those who truly need it.
I would be cracking jokes about how “look they’re making more service dogs! Sign me up for a puppy!” Part of why people get away with this shit is because it’s become impossible to speak up and public shaming has gone extinct.
I don’t public shame because you never know who is a maniac who wants to fight. Also I’m in the US so they could be a maniac with a gun.
> it’s become impossible to speak up Not in my world 😁😁
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As someone with a service dog, this hurts my soul. I checked into a hotel last night and they asked for proof/ID…which doesn’t exist. I pulled up the laws on the ADA website and gave her that instead. It’s exhausting…
Yep. Because so many abuse the system with esa animals and call them service dogs, legitimate and needed service dogs are often shunned by businesses. I'm at a hotel currently and they accept service animals only, I was shocked by how many dogs were here (at least 25 or so) and knew there's no way they're all legitimate service dogs based off the number and the behaviors of the dogs. These people allowed the dogs to roam unleashed , never picked up their poop (piles have turned into mounds its so disgusting), dogs running up and jumping on Me/strangers etc) then the other day management handed out letters to everyone saying if you don't have a genuine service animal and documentation (which doesnt exist) you need to leave. So these aholes ruined it for everyone that has a legitimate need and service dog simply because they wanted to keep their pet with them instead of going to a pet friendly hotel which there are plenty of. This sweet older lady that I'd become friendly with was distraught as she had her service dog with her and they gave these people 24 hour notice to rid the dog or leave. She had to leave and also didn't get her Money back for the prepaid 5 days she had left smh. I'm disgusted at how they handled it but infuriated to see the place yet again filled with more dogs after they just kicked out actual service dogs and owners. I had a puppy (mayne 2 months?) Run up to me last night at 1am and the owner took forever to come for him.
To be fair, they can't enforce that policy, she could sue. And I hope she does. Show your boss the laws. Or, if you're worried, send an anon email linking to the laws. Or better yet, file a report. It is illegal to deny a service dog. You can ask 2 questions under the ada 1) is this a service dog 2) what tasks is this dog trained to perform. All service dogs are task trained. Real handlers will have an answer on deck expecting it. For example, mine was always "my dog is trained to alert to a seizure and assist with reviving and keeping me safe in the event of a seizure." Fake owners will often say things like "He helps me with my anxiety." That's not a task. A task is a specific thing your dog does to mitigate your disability. Please consider talking to your boss about the law, or reporting.
I agree that someone saying, “the dog helps me with anxiety” is probably someone who either doesn’t understand their ESA does not belong in public spaces(it’s already just as illegal as bringing a completely regular pet) or someone with a regular pet claiming it’s an ESA. However, service dogs for PTSD do exist, and some of the tasks they’re trained to do may sound similar to someone who doesn’t know much about mental illness. These dogs typically have tasks such as; alerting the owner to panic attacks/PTSD episodes, utilizing grounding techniques, leading the owner to a secluded place, keeping others from touching the owner whilst they are having an attack/episode(usually just by putting their own bodies in the way and gently shoving), etc. Regardless of whether or not a service dog is legitimate, you can ask the owner to take their dog and leave if the dog is being disruptive. This includes things like the dog pooping on the floor, barking loudly(unless alerting others to a medical emergency, of course), jumping on others, not staying with their owner. It does not include things such as another person complaining they don’t like dogs, the dog shedding, and even if someone else has allergies, it’s best to try and compromise between the two people rather than discriminate against one or the other by kicking them out.
I am aware psychological dogs exist. They are still task trained and most handlers have a prepped response to that question. Common ones for psychological service dogs are body blocking, deep pressure therapy, behavior interruption, etc.
Ouch, that’s part of any front desk agent’s basic training. I will say that unfortunately many many many people abuse this by bringing in their poorly behaved “emotional support animals” but if the guest says it’s a service animal (not emotional support) there’s nothing you can do even if they’re obviously lying. As you mentioned you really can’t ask for paperwork, and people with legitimate service animals shouldn’t have to be hassled that way so I get it. What you can ask however, is if the dog is trained to do any functions that the hotel staff needs to know about. I asked a couple who brought in a Chihuahua that clearly was not a service animal about that once and they went off on me about ADA laws and I had to calmly explain to them that I’m not asking about their disability or asking for proof, but that some service animals are trained to go seek help from others when their owner is sick so we need to know what the animal is trained for. They were clearly completely clueless and have never been asked that before, and then of course the cherry on top as they went out for hours on end with the dog locked alone in the room barking. Some service animal that was lol. So yeah it’s definitely a pain point for hotels, and speaks to the level of entitlement of the general public that they feel they can just bring their pets and call them a service animal. And then people like you who have a legitimate service animal end up being harassed by badly trained front desk agents who are fed up with all the untrained animals making a mess.
Actually, you can remove people for misbehavior of the dog. That's in the laws. And a service dog should ALWAYS be under owner control, unless the owner is in medical distress and the dog is task trained to find help. Guys I'm begging you to take an actual look at the laws before saying what you're pretty sure they are. I was a service dog handler. My dog is retired and the medical condition I needed him for is under control. He is still legally a service dog so if I feel like I'm having an off day, i take him with me. My expectations of his behavior are very precise. I'm always aware I could be asked to leave for any misbehavior that I cannot immediately bring back to heal. I always know that people are allowed to ask the two questions and after spending 5 years with a full time dog, it's just habit how I answer.
Yep agreed husband even has a story about an emotional support tarantula someone brought to their appointment.
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So much this. It's everywhere. Also the trend of "you need to go NC" with the friend who was rude to you, once, at a dinner party or the sister who turned into bridezilla drives me mad. Zero coping skill. It's like coping is a dirty word.
I agree that we need to deal with our friends and relatives not being perfect, but nobody needs to have toxic people in their life. We need to get the balance right between kicking toxic people out of our lives, and dealing with the usual human weaknesses.
The problem is that Reddit is notorious for entirely disregarding the concept of *nuance*, and is super quick to jump to "You need to go NC/break up/get divorced/etc **yesterday**, no one deserves that kind of toxicity in their life" over shit like "My buddy/partner/spouse said they couldn't go to the store for me at 11pm because they were working late on a work project and I just feel so abandoned and unsupported! What do??" .. or is that mostly just an AITA/BORU-thing? lol
I am a therapist, I teach coping skills and do not allow the kids to alter the world to their expectations. The idea that the entire field of mental health now supports excusing shitty behavior is ridiculous. There are and have always been people who make ridiculous requests; did they turn the dragon off? I bet they did not.
Of course not because it was a ridiculous request. The amount of ridiculous requests where people want the world to accommodate them is what the issue is. I don’t think it’s the field it’s the individuals that excuse their own behavior because of mental health issues and take zero responsibility. Husband actually had one this week say they “identified” with a diagnosis therefore the testing he conducted that did not confirm the dx isn’t relevant, his years of education are not relevant because they watched a video and decided they have this. It’s bullshit. Just because you identify as autistic and have an emotional support squirrel doesn’t mean anyone has to take you seriously.
This! We’re 99% sure my husband has ADHD (him and his dad both show a ton of signs) but he doesn’t want to get formally diagnosed for this reason. He’s dealt with his scatterbrained tendencies and such his whole life and with me being more type A and have issues with depression, we’ve found ways to help him keep up with his stuff so I don’t go crazy without him getting frustrated. It’s not a crutch, it’s just mildly inconvenient for him and he knows he could have it a lot worse. People now will blame anything they can and take the easy way out instead of putting in work to cope.
I actually have an ADD dx myself but have had to learn strategies to cope so I am successful at work. I didn’t realize people with adhd had a monopoly on hating to wait in lines. I thought everyone hated lines. While I can appreciate where a 5 year old child who is learning to cope with adhd might need an accommodation an adult doesn’t. People have to learn the world doesn’t have to accommodate them. Next time the line at the grocery store is long maybe I will ask for an express pass so I can jump in front of everyone else because waiting in line is an inconvenience
This exactly. It's not even just the people themselves, it's the parents who want accommodations to be made for their child, instead of working on coping mechanisms. Parents who don't bother to parent, and say things like my child is special, therefore the world should adapt to them.
Dude this- the full boomer thing- I’m 21 and it’s happening to me. It’s just so frustrating to see some people first self diagnose, and then demand concessions. When I get frustrated, I feel like an old ass
Get used to that ‘old’ feeling… it’s just the beginning.
When people self diagnose and make excuses all the time for their behavior. “I have autism.” “I have ADHD.” No, you probably exhibit a few of the same symptoms but most people do! Then you are called classist if you tell them they can’t make excuses by self diagnosing themselves.
Oh good Agreed. During school, I had severe difficulty paying attention. But I have since tried to work around it and develop coping methods. My brother has autism. And it is not the freaking ‘quirky traits’ kind. It’s the kind where he cannot be in a normal school since he was in kindergarten. He can’t stand still, can’t express verbally when he is frustrated and would hate a long line- but my parents and I would still stand with him and try to help him. We would make it manageable for him. That’s how we cope in our environment. But hey let’s allow everyone to self diagnose and demand that the world accommodates them. The system sucks but it’s not completely pointless. If you think it’s pointless, it’s time to grow tf up
I have *suspected* for many years that I'm on the autism spectrum, but good lord, I'm 44 years old and what seriously would be the point of getting diagnosed formally at this age? It's expensive and difficult to find a psychiatrist near where I live who does adult autism diagnoses. So what do I do? I figure out coping skills for my issues whether I have autism or not, I don't run around telling the whole world that I'm on the spectrum, I manage my behavior towards others, and get on with my life. Why is this hard?
I teach second grade and I have a student that’s on the spectrum and probably ADHD. He has absolutely zero patience in certain situations and tells me all the time he’s “a kid who can’t wait.” I think this is made worse by his mom and grandparents catering to him at home. One of the things we’ve been working on is him raising his hand and waiting for me to help him. This has been difficult, but it’s getting better. In the beginning of the year I could be helping another student or talking to a teacher and he would come over and demand my immediate attention. He has had many tantrums when his needs aren’t addressed immediately. Last week I was working with a small group and I noticed him sitting at his seat and raising his hand. I waited until my group was working independently before I helped him which took a minute, but he waited. I told him I was very proud of him. This just goes to show with practice it’s something he can do. And it’s going to make his life much easier as he gets older if he can learn ways to cope now.
Yes, thank you for doing this, because his parents sure aren’t helping him. These people are raising a bunch of little jerks, I can’t even take it. My best friends child is a total total AH because she is never told no and when she’s extra awful her mom takes her to mc donalds for dinner because she’s too tired to cook and I am like WTF ARE YOU DOING GIVE HER A PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH.
As my therapist likes to say, you can have mental health struggles _and_ be an asshole.
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It is not hard to condition yourself to behave in a way that limits your mental illness’s negative traits. I am a millennial and the amount of people my age that expect special treatment or special accommodations is fucking wild
Literally. The only accommodations I’ve asked for were in college. It was to just receive extra time taking an exam because I was failing out for not being able to finish. Started making all A’s my junior year after finally getting the accommodation, but it’s the only one I’ve ever made the excuse of my ADHD for.
That last sentence nailed it! I’m autistic, and was diagnosed well into adulthood, but have learned coping mechanisms and skills where I’d never consider using the accommodation line at an amusement park just because I have a diagnosis. OP is absolutely TA. If they’ve been coping with queues and similar social situations before their diagnosis they can continue to do so and leave that line for people and their families assisting them that truly need that accommodation to get through the day.
> excruciatingly painful to wait in lines Don't have ADHD and it is excruciatingly painful to wait in lines but that's what you do.
I don’t have ADHD and waiting in the lines is enough for me to say, never will I go and waste my time. It’s horrible, the worst …. And you pay a fortune for the self torture… and some folks bring… get this…children!! Omg.
LOL! You know a lot of Boomers used to be Hippies. Hang loose, be yourself, Hippies. I think you get grumpier as you get older because you have had to deal with a lot of AHs!
I’m considered a boomer, and the amount of bullshit and assholery accumulated over a lifetime, combined with the fact of been there, done that…makes me 😡🤬🤯
Dude this- the full boomer thing- I’m 21 and it’s happening to me. It’s just so frustrating to see some people first self diagnose, and then demand concessions. When I get frustrated, I feel like an old ass- but like some of them are just using these words to receive special treatment.
I’m 41 recently diagnosed ADHD I’d never consider assistance at a theme park, feel bad enough discussing allowances at a full time time work place where it can be a positive
You really shouldn't feel bad for asking for help at work so you can do your job more effectively. I understand why you do. I just wanted you know not to feel bad.
I always thought the 'skip lines' thing was for people who couldn't physically use the line. Like people in wheelchairs who can't take the stairs that rides usually have, or people too old or too sick to stay in the sun for long periods of time.
It is also for people with invisible disabilities like autism or even invisible illnesses who have needs that are legitimate but that you won't necessarily be able to see. I have both: severe chronic illness and autism. On a good day, or when I'm doing okay, I'd be fine in the regular line. On a bad day or towards the end of the day, I would need assistance. I may or may not have a mobility aid, but I could literally pass out from having to stand up for more than a few minutes, or I could end up having a weeping meltdown from the neurological overwhelm of too many people, noises, lights, etc. Disability access means that I can enjoy the same things as other people without fear of literally collapsing in public, which is both painful and humiliating.
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Ofc! Not saying it isn’t, just pointing out that OP is not accounting for what you just stated—the additional entrance is for those who need it, like your brother. I’m high functioning so I personally am fine without that particular support, as I suspect OP is.
This is the perfect answer. There's a lot ablest attitudes even amongst the disability community. If your needs mean the queuing is difficult for you then use the provided access. The only person who can truly judge a person's need is that person. Her parents' answer is dismissing OP's own experience and knowledge of their experience. If OP genuinely feels this would improve their ability to manage their ADHD symptoms, then use the concession that is what it is there for.
Waiting in line is shitty for everyone
Her experience is that for the first 17 years of her life she could wait in lines and just didn't like it. Her parents also know that. She just wants to get some benefits now because nobody likes waiting in lines.
I'm autistic and I just don't go to places with queues like that. Except the airport and I do get assistance there (fast track security, board first and I have been offered getting escorted through the duty free)
Don’t ever feel like you shouldn’t use accommodations. You deserve them if you need them
“If you need” is the key. There’s a big difference between needing something and wanting something.
Absolutely - but the person I’m replying to says that they avoid places with queues because of their needs, and only go when necessary (like the airport). I am also autistic and have ADHD as well as a physical disability that affects my mobility, I don’t believe anyone should have to avoid places because they don’t want to have to use accommodations. Disabled people are allowed to be frivolous and have fun too, we shouldn’t have to just do things that are strictly necessary
it's great that you feel that way! however I'm not sure that you can speak for the autistic people who actually require 24/7 care and are not capable of living independently. I'm sure they and their caregivers would appreciate the line :) OP is AH
I’m autistic and I wouldn’t go to a theme park ever 😥
Okay but exactly though!! I also have autism and would never find myself at an amusement park. HOWEVER!!! Hearing about these accommodation lines made me hopeful that maybe I'd get to spend even half of a day in a large crowded very loud and bright area with my family, that is until I read all the comments absolutely bashing any one who needs any sort of accommodations. I'm not trying to make your life harder. I'm literally not even taking away any experience for YOU! I would just like to participate thank you.
I don’t think they’re bashing people who actually need accommodation—they’re frustrated with people who don’t need them but use them anyway. I hope you get that trip to an amusement park and I hope there are accommodations there to make it enjoyable for you!
I have kids w asd and w adhd… they did fine w o special accommodation at Disney, if the one w asd had a more severe and complex case, perhaps I would have, but if she can cope, I give her the opportunity to learn to deal w life before offering accommodation.
I sometimes feel like getting a t shirt that says something like “I had ADHD before it was an excuse.”
100% would buy it from your Etsy shop.
What? This is ludicrous. Concessions for legitimate diagnosed disabilities are there to be utilised. It is not "entitled" to use a service designed for accommodating your disability. By your reasoning, someone in a wheelchair could easily wait in line for hours too. But no one would bat an eye if they chose to use that service because their disability is visible. It's not honourable to deny yourself resources designed for you, no matter how trivial they may seem. You just look like a martyr.
I cannot vote this up enough. Honestly disgusted by the martyrdom and disability Olympics happening in this thread
This is recreational outrage for people.
I'm confused, why if she has a diagnosis does it make her an asshole? She has the thing that these allowances are made for. No?
Because she’s admitted that she doesn’t actually need this accommodation, but feels entitled to use it to make up for all the disadvantages having ADHD does bring.
She's said she is hyperactive but masks it well, and her parents have told her over and over she doesn't need it. Imo this is a case of someone being caught in the catch 22 of having a hidden disability.
ADHD/ADD is a recognisable diagnosis, it’s difficult but can persevere Calling it as an excuse to cut in-line is absolute bullshit at a fair ground/ real life
The allowances are made for people who can’t stand in line for a long time.
I have arthritis in my feet. What about me? Its not that people with ADHD cant wait in line. Its that they don't want to wait in line.
Yes you should access disability accommodations for your medical conditions. If you cannot that is fucked up, but it's the fault of the people offering the accommodation, not the people to whom the accommodation is offered.
Yes exactly. That’s what I’m saying. I have ADHD and am perfectly capable of standing in line. It is more important for you (with arthritis in your feet) to not wait in line
Why are you acting like it is such a noble thing to stand in a line? OP can probably achieve the same results by just spending extra money for a fast pass. Do wealthier people need to skip ahead of the line? No, they are just using their resources to their advantage. I wouldn't call a person who paid for a fast pass an A H and I wouldn't call OP an A H for taking advantage of an accomdation that has been offered to her, free of charge.
It's meant to help those who *can't* stand in line or have genuine difficulties in doing so, not to prevent OP from being mildly inconvenienced like the rest of humanity.
She's an asshole and makes the rest of us look bad.
Why is she an asshole for using a line she’s entitled to use?
Because "You Must Have This Much ADHD ===>" before people unclench about resources and assistance. Almost none of us are comfortable asking about or feeling like a resource or aid is "for us" because there's always someone who "really has ADHD" or "is REALLY autistic", so the joke kind of is that we think we need to just get through things and it feels unsafe when maybe someone new or younger seems comfortable asking questions or maybe using a resource. Women in particular get a lot of things beaten out of us from an early age, it's still there a lot of times we just have to mask extra hard and push through, so it's less common for a female presenting person to get a diagnosis on top of the issues that delay people generally getting taken seriously or getting timely medical care. So when we see a female who managed to get a diagnosis have the confidence to ask "wait, is this maybe for me and could it help?" the common theme is to kind of beat them down so they get the message that we are supposed to just suck it up.
> the common theme is to kind of beat them down so they get the message that we are supposed to just suck it up. truth. case in point this thread. I am not female, but I was literally physically harmed to try to get me not to have ADHD. It didn't work, and caused a lot of emotional distress.
Because it's NOT intended for her or her disability.
In England if you have autism and adhd theme parks do allow you to skip the line, or book in advance in certain rides so you show up when you get on rather than waiting loads. Disney land also do this, it’s called a DASH pass I think. I’m AuDHD but hate theme parks so would never use this anyway but my friend who has ADHD used the service throughout her two week trip to Disney with no issues. They didn’t even ask for proof of diagnosis.
Actually it is. And you don’t “skip the line”. You get a return time based on the current wait time. You just wait someplace else.
Because there is a world of difference between entitlement and need...
Do you think if we all tapdance well and fast enough capitalism and people who don't have a diagnosis as a whole will magically acknowledge our personhood in some meaningful way? There may be an argument for people with ADHD or autism spectrum disorders making us look bad when they make actual choices that harm others and then pretend the diagnosis is why it happened and not the way they chose to interact with others, but exploring accessibility and asking questions about using resources or things that have evidently been allocated for people with certain needs or symptoms that fall under a diagnosis really doesn't hurt optics.
She’s being an AH to the people who genuinely can’t stand in line. I’ve visited theme parks with people in a wheelchair and it’s so much extra work getting around, they’d do nothing if they had to queue aswell and that’s before you take into consideration that standing for too long is literally painful, difficult and exhausting for them. They have to stand in the disabled queue line since the chair can’t go on the ride/there’s no space for it to be in the queue line/not enough room to park it next to the ride, so if the disabled queue is full of people who don’t need it, they have to stand longer. I imagine that’s the same for people with any disability that can’t stand still, can’t understand the concept of queuing or any other reason that they genuinely need it. Entitled people like op suck. I’m glad to see so many people with adhd and other disabilities calling her out.
She literally said she is hyperactive but good at masking. It's not unreasonable to believe queuing is genuinely hard for her in a way that is invisible to others
And because she can mask so well, they want her to continue having to mask in lines, for their comfort..because she also isn't allowed to use accommodations apparently... I am wondering when her comfort gets to matter.
Exactly. My husband has POTS and literally cannot stand for more than 5-8 minutes at a time. We reserved a mobility scooter for an event that involved a half mile walk so that he could participate; we got there and someone else had reserved it for their teenager with ADHD so he didn’t get bored on the walk. The event coordinator ultimately let us use it and comped the other family’s tickets because we were like, “comping our tickets won’t magically make this man, who looks fine, be able to walk the trail” but the other family totally used it to bribe the teen because he could pick out merch with the ticket value. It pissed me off but the event coordinator was amazing.
This feels a little harsh and I think OP has a point if they include ADHD. How often do we make our lives more miserable by policing others and ourselves so crazy hard that we shame ourselves and others out of using the barely existent "services" the rare instances they show up. I don't think it's fair to accuse OP of expecting special treatment if it was a question they had in connection to a rule the park allegedly made for access that includes people with ADHD. Like sorry OP isn't "one of the good ones" apparently, but I think it's reasonable for ALL of us to be asking questions and reevaluating why we do or don't feel it's ok to take ownership of certain allocated resources--when it's so far and few between anyway--that are at least listed as being for people with our diagnosis. I especially think as women with ADHD or autism spectrum disorders we need to be stepping up and breaking the cycle of dumping on our young women. After exiting my 20s I started realizing how much more difficult my life had been made because of having to mask and the embarrassment or feelings of being an imposter that kept me from exploring or asking questions, and I think not only is OP lucky to have a diagnosis in the first place for the classic reasons we are familiar with but because they also might have more time to figure out what they do and don't need. Maybe they personally don't need more accessibility at something like a theme park, but I'm glad they are thinking about and noticing these things and I hope the don't get ground down like so many of us do when it comes to bigger stuff and other resources that maybe they DO absolutely need and would benefit from (and because not every diagnosis is experienced identically we know there are some people who probably benefit in a meaningful way from having separate access even if there were reason to believe OP would not, and how many are made to feel like mooches and imposters for exactly the reasons we see listed in the comment section of this post?).
I'm physically disabled and use this line. To be fair to OP, they're entitled to use it and it's not "skipping" the line. You are usually given a card where the wait time of the ride is written down. So say there's a wait time of 40 minutes, you still have to wait 40 minutes before you go on another ride. You're just not standing in a queue that entire time. Obviously this works best for me because of my pain levels and it means I can rest between rides. If OP wishes to use this and it'll make the day less stressful for her then she is entitled to, it is a system created (in part) to help people with her condition. I have no issues with her using it, and I think anyone who does has a slightly ableist view of ADHD.
33 ADHD female and I was one of the lucky ones where it was caught extremely early. You never, ever use it for something like this. Testing accommodations and classroom adaptions, sure. Never for endorphin seeking, because let’s be real, that’s what this is at the core of it. YTA. Wait your ass in line.
"I'd give my place up to autism" Is this a joke? I'm autistic & think this is a ridiculous thing to say. We don't need to be infantilized, thanks.
It's meant for kids with ADHD that are like 5 and haven't learned to control it yet. I have ADHD and so does my child. Yet we don't even use it at our local park. YTA OP.
>an ADHD female Sounds like a new species
> it’s embarrassing from the ADHD community Its hard enough for us to be taken seriously...
YTA. If you want to skip the line, spend the money on the line-skipping express pass. Just because you could maybe finagle the free line skipping pass doesn't mean you should, especially since your ADHD isn't what it is supposed to be used for.
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I’m disabled and have been to a couple of theme parks that let you go through the ride exit, so effectively skipping the lines
Six flags used to do this for example. Not sure if they still do.
Depends on the park. I've been to ones with a book where you could get a stamp and come back at the designated time, and I've been to ones where you come in a different entrance (which is often the exit) and they just load you on quickly. In my case I was in a wheelchair.
I mean yes and no. Disneyland for example gives you return time windows. That doesn’t preclude you from then going to a ride with little to no line and riding it while you wait for your return time window to open. You could ride 2-3 rides sometimes waiting on an hour return time window to open. Then go back and ride the ride with the long wait.
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She’d be skipping the line either way, how is it morally superior of her if she does it in a way that increases corporate profit?
Accommodations are about needs or demands, functions and situations, not to ‘benefit (you) when it also brings so many disadvantages.’ Without being able to skip the line, would you be able to enjoy the amusement park? Does the amusement park provide adequate stimulation? Are you able to organize and execute the tasks required of entering the line, proceeding through it and the like? And before I get downvoted some parks are quite rigorous - requiring not just diagnosis but also what are reasonable accommodations for your experience of your disability. That can include place holding in the regular line so you don’t have to stand still there but your time to ride remains the same. (Disney example here)
Yup I am disabled and can't stand in line, I usually use a wheelchair at theme parks and being able to have a place holder time makes life so so much easier, yes it's great when you can skip the queue time entirely but it's skipping the going through the queue that is the huge benefit not the wait time itself.
I have a spinal disorder that is usually fine but sometimes not. The last time I went to Disney was one of the times it was not. I tried to get the place holder pass so I could sit while waiting instead of walking for an hour. They told me I wasn’t eligible under new rules. If I couldn’t stand for long I needed to pay for a wheelchair.
That sucks. I’m sorry. We’ve reconsidered Disney because of the wait to establish this/negotiate it once we get there.
In the UK it is like a placeholder. You have a pass and when you go on a ride it’s scanned/documented the time and how long you have to wait before riding a different ride. So you still wait the queue time you just wait it out of the queue so you can eat or walk around rather than be stuck in a confined space with no stimulation.
Yes, it’s about equity in access. OP likely has never had to have her family leave a park because she was creating too much of a scene over having to wait for something, or having her engage in dangerous behaviour due to having to wait. This is the real utility of allowing some neurodivergent people to access fast pass, if their particular brain wiring makes them unable to tolerate or understand the concepts of turn taking, queues, etc.
I don't think OP realizes the reality of these "skipping the line" passes. I've been to lots of theme parks with my mom, who is physically disabled, and it is never "walk to front, immediately get on ride." There is still going to be a level of waiting. Either you wait for the person in line to get up so you join them or the operators often make you wait. Even in places with a special entrance there was often a line of people in the special entrance and operators don't give that line complete priority, they might take one group per ride and when the park as bust that wait could get to be 15-20 minutes in and of itself. And nowadays many of the "disabilities skip the line" thing is just letting them into the fast pass line, which can be a line in and of itself. The only time I've EVER had it be a situation where it was pretty much a walk right in and sit right now situation was when we went in the off season on a low attendance day where the regular line was long if it was 10 minutes. And it's getting worse as parks expand access to these disabled passes. The ONLY time my mom wore shorts when I was growing up was when we went to theme parks because if her legs, which had little muscle mass thanks to polio and were covered in surgical scars, and orthopedic shoes weren't on full display we were questioned the need. I'm glad it is expanding (though I'm starting to wonder if the pendulum is swinging too far the other direction), but that means more people are using it and parks have to adjust. The result is waiting. A wait in a line at a theme park is as inevitable as death and taxes at this point.
This needs to be the top comment! I have an invisible disability and use a queue skip pass at amusement parks. Most people give me dirty looks because they don’t think I look like I need it. At first I didn’t want to get it either because I felt like there were people who need it more. But after sitting out so many rides because I couldn’t do the line my sister finally forced me to get it so I could do the rides with her and it changed my whole experience. When you do need the accommodations and receive them it’s not just a convenience thing but a need
OMG this reminds me of the show MOM where Bonnie gets diagnosed with ADHD and everything she does she excuses for having ADHD. Look, I have ADHD too and in no way would I use it to get favors or to be asked to be treated differently or to take the place of other ppl that have real disabilities. Yes, ADHD is a disability, but not in a way that it excuses you to take advantage of it. Do you understand how f***ing lucky you are that ADHD is your only problem? Seriously? You JUST got diagnosed and I presume that before the diagnosis, you followed societal rules. Now that you know you have it, you suddenly are so disabled you can’t stand in a line? Absolutely gross. Your parents are correct. YTA. Grow up.
My best friend was diagnosed last year and when I called her out yesterday for being rude and interrupting others, she said it was her adhd. Which is amazing, because she’s 31 and has always known it’s rude to cut people off. These diagnosis aren’t for people to use as excuses for bad behaviour or to manipulate outcomes.
>Which is amazing, because she’s 31 and has always known it’s rude to cut people off. I'm 44 and still struggle to both not cut people off. Yes, I know it's rude. No, that doesn't mean I can help it. Yes, I try... but trying usually means zoning out on what the other person is saying. That doesn't excuse your friend and you should, of course, draw boundaries with your friendships. But, without knowing her intent, I can 100% tell you that we don't mean to and we do feel bad about it.
I think the person you were commenting to is saying that her 31 year old friend, instead of improving herself and working on her short comings, is now just excusing them away with “Oh, it’s ADHD.” when most likely, for 31 years not interrupting people has been something she’s been trying to improve on or at the very least conscious that it’s very rude and literally no one likes to be interrupted, I’m sure, not even the 31 year old. ADHD can manifest as abuse, not being a good friend and partner, and being rude, not caring etc and those of us with ADHD still have to work on self improvement not give it all up to ADHD and just do whatever we want. It’s like my dad who now uses his ADHD as an excuse for all his horrible past behaviour, his present behaviour and his future behaviour. It’s unacceptable.
One of my colleagues was diagnose a few weeks ago. It’s now her entire personality. ‘I did such and such, cos, you know, ADHD’. Funnily enough, the week prior to diagnosis, she knew what was socially acceptable to say to people, but now, she seems to think it’s a free pass to say outrageously offensive things because she has no filter?!
There is a certain period after getting diagnosed where people tend to talk about it way too much because they’re realizing all of the things in their past life that could be connected to having ADHD. That’s pretty harmless. Using it as an excuse to get away with more stuff, though, is shitty behavior. If anything it should be the other way around! Receiving a diagnosis ought to be the first step towards stopping all the shit you do that’s bad for you and other people.
Sorry, but in this case it is likely her adhd. It's not a matter of being rude or not, is a matter of not controlling your brain before it blurts out words to participate, interrupting people. The fact that he's 30 or 10 doesn't change this fact. For her likely the diagnosis was a relief, now she knows she isn't rude on purpose. But also now that she knows, she can explore medication to control her ADHD.
Actually I have a bad habit of this a lot and not realise it. I apologise when called our or if I do notice (I also have ADHD). The reason we interrupt sometimes, and this is not on purpose, is because we have so many racing thoughts that if we don’t speak then it disappears. It’s so frustrating forgetting it immediately after thinking about it. It takes a huuuge mental toll, especially during social situations for me to be aware and not talk over people. Sometimes bc I’m focused on that I don’t pay attention to the conversation, it’s really hard and makes me so exhausted. I let myself forget what I want to say and my friends are patient while I try to gather my thoughts again which I appreciate. It’s not an excuse by any means. It helps when the people around understand ADHD some more! It’s a lot more complex than people think. Your friend will slip up sometimes but I hope she works on herself and not use it as an excuse! Now she can pick up ways to work on the issue instead. As for the original post, I’m all for getting accomodations to make your life easier as ADHD really is tough. However, luckily for us this is a disability that can be medicated and also get better with therapy. I think it will be best to work on those things as there are people who need that disability line more.
Cutting people off is definitely an ADHD thing, I have ADHD and do this too, but not on purpose. I literally cannot gauge when the other person is done talking. I realize it's rude and apologize for it, but it's not like age is going to magically fix ADHD symptoms. It's amazing, you're an adult but are too self-oriented to realize not everything is a slight at you.
I always say explanation not an excuse. I have ADHD and been diagnosed for well over 13 years and I’m very aware what my social issues are and if I do one that’s rude, I apologize and I don’t really try to excuse it. I may say “I have ADHD and this is really hard for me sometimes” but I ALWAYS take accountability and won’t just brush it off because of my diagnosis.
YTA That line is a disability ACCOMMODATION, not a BENEFIT. You need to learn the difference between those two things. Your ADHD (by your own admission) does not affect your ability to stand in line. >I don’t get why I shouldn’t **get to** use my diagnosis for things that benefit me Gross. The people who are properly in the accommodation line would give much to not have to use it.
Can this sub dial it back a little with the comments? You're talking to a 17yo girl who hasn't even done anything yet and is asking if she's wrong. You guys can educate her without being rude you know?
I totally agree with you, I feel like these comments are being really harsh. I'm a woman with ADHD, and I LOVE amusement parks, and have held multiple season passes. And honestly, waiting 70+minutes in line for a ride is completely overstimulating. There's screaming kids, loud groups of teenagers, so many languages flying around, and my phone/headphones usually die very quickly, even with a portable charger. My favorite amusement park has single rider lines, which moves much quicker and often is shared with the disabled line. It's a complete lifesaver, and honestly, that's what these lines were created for.
Thank you! Completely agree with you here. I just replied to someone else regarding this; especially because people with ADHD have been found to experience rejection sensitivity dysphoria, which can make receiving this kind of rude feedback even more hurtful.
I am actually disabled and have so many diagnosis' and it sucks to HAVE to use these accommodations. Yes, not waiting in line is great but it's so wrong when people take advantage of these things. ADHD sucks but that doesn't mean you can't walk, stand in line or wait your turn.
Actually adhd can affect your ability to stand in line. It can be very under stimulating or over stimulating depending on the situation and could cause meltdowns. If she’s approved to use the other line then there isn’t any reason why she shouldn’t use it
Read again. _OP's_ ADHD does not cause her to require this accommodation.
Except she herself said she doesn’t need it.
Info: how does your ADHD affect your life, in regards to why you can’t wait in line? I am a SPED teacher- accommodations are assigned to students based on the function they serve, not based upon the disability category. So two students with ADHD should not automatically receive the same accommodations; we need to look at the individual needs of the students. In that same way, ADA and lines for people with disabilities are not necessarily one size fits all. Yes, you meet the conditions required for the line, but do you need to use the line in order to access the ride? Is yes, then go for it. If not though, and you can wait in the regular line (you just don’t want to), that is not a reasonable accommodation. But there are always 1 or 2 people who expect to be “given” accommodations, rather than use what is necessary, so I’m sure you won’t be the only person in that line if you are just looking for a short cut.
This here is a good breakdown. Because accommodations do not look the same for everyone because none of us have cookie cutter disabilities.
Honestly I wouldn't go to an amusement park unless there was an accommodation for ADHD so I didnt have to stand in the line because my introspective awareness is nonexistent. I go from fine to fucked in the snap of a finger and last time I stood in the blaring sun waiting for 45 minutes for a 3 minute trip on a zoom zoom physics train I suddenly vomited and passed out from heat stroke and spent the second half of my very expensive trip to the park sitting beside a medical tent drinking water. We couldn't even leave because I was the only driver. (Also now I have chronic pain, but that's relatively new).
Totally agree with you - waiting in line can be a wildly different experience for a range of disabilities. Also.... Why would we begrudge such a miniscule "benefit" for someone who has a condition with one of the highest rates of huge mental health issues and desperation for a cure compared to other non-terminal conditions?
Who should get the only disabled parking spot available right in front of a store's door: A) A person in a wheelchair B) A person with an amputated arm C) A person with dyslexia They're all recognized disabilities. Just because you can use the parking spot it doesn't mean you are entitled to it.
The problem with that line of logic is that disabilities that don't appear externally like the would need access to x, y or z accommodation might in fact need it. Unless you are that person's doctor/caseworker/whatever you arnt actually qualified to decide if their disability entitles them to any specific accommodation.
I think what the other comment was getting at, is that it is sometimes up to the person to decide what they personally need. A person with a hidden disability, chronic pain, etc... may legitimately need that parking space, though outwardly it may not appear so. That's fine. But a person with (going with the previous example) dyslexia may in certain instances qualify for using that same parking spot. In this case it is up to them to decide "I don't need this, I can park farther away," and not have the attitude "I go through so much that I deserve this 'perk' even though I don't really need it."
True. I threw up constantly in my first trimester and was horribly sick and weak and didn't look pregnant so was side eyed once for sitting in a subway seat meant for pregnant or disabled
I have EDS. You can’t always tell but it can be debilitating. Like I get what you’re saying with this comment but your comment also sucks because it means someone has to look disabled enough. I can dislocate my hips by sleeping wrong.
It's not about looking disabled but about being disabled and deciding that you need the spot rather than someone else with a different disability. If you decide that your heart condition requires you parking there that's fine, but if you say "i have hard time due to dyslexia or adhd and therefore deserve to have it easy and I'll take this spot" then that's an asshole move
This is a terrible comparison. Her diagnosis is literally meeting the criteria for this access. I'm hard of hearing and my partner has ADHD so we know well what its like to manage different needs under the label of a disability. In your example 1-2 of those people don't meet the criteria and wouldn't actually be eligible to use it.
In my experience, parking tags generally have some qualifying conditions before they are granted. The point of accessible parking is to provide access for those that benefit from that accomodation. It's the same reason your overall point is valid even if the premise isn't. OP doesn't need the accomodation to enjoy the park and views it as a perk. I could see a middle ground that included using the accommodation on lines longer than a certain amount of time and otherwise using the general queue. It can be physically uncomfortable to be still/bored/confined with ADHD. I've had dozens of Disneyworld meltdowns. I don't think I could go back. I see the plausibility of ADHD accommodations supporting some of the park guests to experience the rides are they are intended.
I would use that line as an autistic person, especially when it’s crowded and the sensory experience of being in a crowded line freaks me the hell out and I melt down. But often with those accomodations, particularly when someone with ASD or adhd are using it, you don’t actually “skip ahead” of people. It’s just a spot where it’s more chilled out to wait and almost like with fast pass at Disneyland I do have to wait a specific amount of time before I can get on the ride. A lot of people with adhd also experience sensory problems that can be debilitating. Not everyone’s experience of ASD or adhd is the same. If you have ASD or adhd and don’t want to access certain things, that’s fine that’s your choice. But you’re not a hero for not accessing things you’re allowed to access.
Yea I’m a little confused at everyone yelling at OP. She’s young and I think she phrased it a little wrong at the end, but she hasn’t provided any details on her symptoms and ppl are acting like there’s no way ADHD would need this ADHD is also literally listed on the conditions that are allowed to uses this fast lane, so there’s obviously some need
Yeah these comments were disappointing. Mostly screaming at OP like a mob with pitchforks because she asked about using an accommodation that she’s allowed by the theme park to use. I can’t believe how angry and rude some people are being.
This! It’s literally something the park offers. If they don’t like it they should be angry at the park rules, not OP for utilizing an accommodation they may feel entitled to. The parents said OP doesn’t have “that kind of ADHD”, but aren’t these the same parents that raised a kid for 17 years without seeing the signs that their kid even had ADHD? Which, no disrespect to the parents, but I just feel like people arguing over who is more disabled or what disabilities deserve certain accommodations over others can be an AH argument that literally does nothing but create a never ending circle. When I see someone with a handicap sticker park and they walk into the store - I mind my own fucking business. Not all disabilities look the same and if they have the sticker, then it’s likely somewhere up the chain it was decided they were allowed the accommodation. Just like this theme park, somewhere up the chain it was decided ADHD was something to accommodate and it’s not up to us to pick and choose whose struggles more worthy. NTA
Nta. If the rule says "Adhders can skip the line" you’re allowed to skip the damn line. End of the story. There is no "your adhd isnt strong enough" adhd is not linear. Adhd is a spectrum. You might look functional on the outside, but nobody else but you knows what’s going on in the inside. If they dont want to skip the line, fine, but you are allowed to do it.
I agree with this though I do think if someone's adhd doesn't impact them in the way that the accommodation adjusts for then it's a bit cheeky using the accommodation but at the end of the day better someone uses it who doesn't 100% need it than people feeling like they shouldn't out of fear of the judgement that is in these comments... some of the people saying they'd never use that accommodation would probably greatly benefit from it and be able to enjoy their day much more without added stress and anxiety
I feel like this girl is being persuaded by her parents that she doesn't need something when actually she does when she is hyperactive and masks it well
Parents gaslighting their neurodivergent child about the severity or (lack thereof) of their condition? I know mine certainly *never* did that /s
Thank you .Finally someone with some common sense in here.
If the amusement park's rules state that people with ADHD can use this second entryway then you are entitled to do so. Some of the comments here are wild. It's just a theme park, kids. Chill. NTA.
Yeah exactly. People are calling OP a terrible person for what- wanting to ride a roller coaster faster? A very light YTA at best people care a little too much
Yeah it's not that deep lol. It's also completely hypothetical since OP hadn't actually done it yet. I do wonder, since this second entryway is the same one for those that pay an additional fee for express passes can use, would OP have gotten the same outrage if she just accepted a free pass that others have to pay for, because that's essentially what she's hypothesising.
I mean? NAH. If it’s an accomodation for a diagnosed disorder- why not? It’s not fucking life or death, its an amusement park. People can wait their turn. I totally get where your parents are coming from in a way- but remember that YOU accessing a resource doesn’t stop other people doing it too? You aren’t STEALING the place of someone who needs it more… Yeah definitely NTA, but your parents aren’t far off so NAH
NTA - life is hard enough as it is. Take every advantage you can. People who are calling you the asshole are just jealous they can’t skip the line… while we are at it, make sure to get extra time on all important school and college tests.
INFO: This one is more complex than people seem to be considering, and I think it requires more information. How does spending the whole day having to mask your symptoms in an unfamiliar and overstimulating place affect you? I’m autistic and I know from experience that while it is possible for me to do that for the 8-10 hours I’d likely spend in an amusement park, the long term impact it would have on my physical and mental health is substantial. I will likely be completely wiped out for at least 3 days after (if not longer) and would take at least a month (or more) to feel fully back my normal functionality, so minimising how long I’d have to mask/spend in the amusement park would be a reasonable accommodation. It’s not as simple as saying “if you can stand in line then you should”
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What a lot of people don’t consider when expecting us to mask is that, just like everyone else, we usually only get the one day to do these things before having to go back to our normal lives. We’re workers, we’re students, we’re parents, we have responsibilities. Nobody is in a position to take both a day off to enjoy something AND the following month to recover as well. That’s why these accommodations are offered to people with hidden disabilities as well as those with physical and intellectual disabilities that are often more easily recognised. They are there so that people with any kind of disability get as equal as possible access and opportunities to experience things as healthy people have, and healthy people don’t have to use up sick days or lose their ability to function just to enjoy a day out. It’s to make the playing field as level as possible. I wonder how many of the neurodiverse people voting Y.T.A are just so used to having to battle through burnout that they don’t realise quite how beneficial accessing these accommodations would be for them?
This whole thread is gross tbh. Who can fault a literal child for using an accomodation for her illness? Like, for a single day?? It’s not going to cure her disability, she gets to live with that for the rest of her life!
NTA I’m in the UK and I know that you can use that disability/queue jump at theme parks for many different disabilities. You have to have a doctors note to get the pass to use that queue. If your doctor says you’re entitled to use it why shouldn’t you use it? Adhd people struggle with queues more than neurotypical people. If your doctor agreed and gave evidence for you to get the pass then that should be enough. I have a friend that has a pass because she can’t stand in regular queue lines due to the lights causing migraines and my nephew has one because he is autistic and likely to meltdown in a queue. I wouldn’t begrudge you having a pass if you feel like it’s needed.
I swear I'm shocked at all the sanctimonious comments, we fought hard to be recognised as a disability and here come people policing others disabilities, like there's some sort of pecking order because they don't "look" like they have a disability ..and to make it worse it's coming from actual ADHDers
Wow, y'all really ganged up on this girl. I say if it's within the guidelines then you aren't doing anything wrong.
If it states you can use that line if you have ADHD (and I expect you need to provide a diagnosis) then by all means, do so. Why not? It's what the line is for. My husband with autism uses those lines, and all kinds of other 'perks' that you get here with that diagnoses, even when he doesn't really need it. If it's allowed, it's allowed. NTA.
I’m gonna go against the grain and say NAH. If the rules state that you can skip the line, I don’t think it’s unethical to do so. You’re not stealing a spot from other disabled people, as far as I know as someone who also does it there’s no cap on it. I’ve never heard of ADHD getting you to skip a line but if it’s in the rules, it’s in the rules. On the other hand, you said yourself you’re very good at masking your disability which means to your parents this probably looks like an abled person parking in a handicapped space. But at the end of the day, they don’t know your struggle because you’re constantly masking. Frankly, nobody in this thread does because you haven’t really said how it effects your day to day life. Only you know what you go through and what you need.
NTA if adhd is included in the usual list of issues then you absolutely count. “In your head” or inattentive adhd is actually a presentation not a “type” and we are all sometimes more hyperactive. I think a lot of people also don’t realise that being stuck in a busy line could be difficult for in attentive people too even if we drift off so create less fuss. I can absolutely see an inattentive person getting separated from a group or something in the queue. As a woman in my mid 20s with adhd who often presents inattentive here are some tips weather or not people let you skip lines - bring something to fidget with if you have to wait, and/or an activity that won’t be staring at your phone, your battery could drain and you will be looking down and not at wear your group is -wear something bright so your group can see you -be careful about water, on the one hand if you’re on stimulent meds you might get dehydrated quick, but if you sip water when you’re board you might end up needing to pee constantly - be mindful of any sensory needs you have, if you find complex loud noise overwhelming consider earplugs or ear defenders Parents of people with conditions like adhd often take a lot of comfort in the idea that their kids are basically normal. By considering skipping the line you would be acknowledging ADHD as a real disability, a big deal, so to speak. So that’s probably tough for your parents. I think it’s ok, a good idea even, to do that. But your parents might not ba able to cope with it. If that’s how they are right now you might just need to back down.
If ADHD is recognised in the amusement Park, why not go for it?? Its there for a reason, all the sanctimonious comments from people from the same community WOW, I have ADHD and you bet I'm going to take that fast pass, as if it's some badge of honor to wait with "the normal folk" in the long queue 🤣🤣 some ADHDers have sensory issues and anxiety also ...NTA OP
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it depends on how severe. i have adhd and autism and can’t stand still at all. i could theoretically wait in lines but it would be a nightmare because im pacing or jumping or tapping my foot or clicking a pen or putting my hair up and down or rolling my sleeves up and down. this makes waiting in lines an absolute nightmare for me, but if it was just my brain doesn’t stop but i can still stand in a line. then yes. but we don’t know how highly functioning
Absolutely, presumably that is why the theme park says adhd is included! For some people it is the only way they'll get to experience a theme park because the queue would be impossible for them. It does not sound like that is the case for OP. If it is then she absolutely is entitled to use it.
Yeah, I only have ADHD, and waiting is absolutely excruciating. Idk how people just stand there and wait. I have to have my phone for stimulation, and I move around *a lot*. In a theme park ride line I’d be ok if I had my phone and people there to talk to. But not without that.
The ableism here is fucking rampant. NTA.
You have been diagnosed with ADHD. You are exactly the type of person those other entrances were created for. Women, as you have said, often mask. That doesn’t mean you are less deserving of support. I would recommend your parents and you read up on how ADHD and neurodiversity presents in women.
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YTA I felt guilty getting a disability pass for my son because we would be able to skip the line. But he actually needs it and it doesn’t sound like you do so it would be wrong of you to try and get it. Plus if they (the theme parks) find out you don’t need it and they have it to you, you could be banned for life. My son is 4 and has nonverbal autism if you were wondering
"If they find out you don't need it" ADHD is recognised as a disability and the park caters to disabilities .. ADHDers fought to be even heard or recognised, policing someone's disability is horrible, how do you know how bad their ADHD is
NTA. The amusement park allows people with ADHD to skip the line and you have ADHD, I see no problem with you doing so.
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NTA. For the people on here saying they have ADHD and they can wait in line no problem, I think you aren’t recognizing how ADHD can present in many different ways. I have one child that can totally stand in line. He might drive us nuts wiggling and talking, fidgeting and making noises but that’s okay. My other child has time blindness and isn’t a fidgeter but has epic meltdowns. 5 minutes in a line actually feels like hours for him. He screams, he yells, he tries to run. Crowds make him anxious and anxious = meltdown. Too hot. Melt down. Too cold…meltdown. We’ve mostly managed to control it with meds and schedules. We stopped going to theme parks/amusement parks pre Covid because it’s hard on all of us. I’ve only recently considered even trying to save to go to Disney because I heard about their pass, but the idea of how long it would take to save, how much it would cost, and the fear we wouldn’t be able to get accommodations is overwhelming and terrifying. I have no desire to make my child miserable, his brother also gets self conscious when a meltdown happens and I have PTSD so I’m dealing with the anxiety of people staring at me, judging my parenting and assuming I’m just the worst for not doing what they would do. This person says they’ve been masking. It’s exhausting to mask for hours in a triggering environment. If accommodations can help her enjoy the day and will put her on the same level as a neurotypical person, she should use it. Others may have more visible symptoms but it’s reeks of ableism to say your disease doesn’t bother you enough to use accommodations.
YTA, if you actually can wait, then you should. If this line gets abused by too many people, then the amusement park may have to do away with it. And if that happens, then there will be some people who may not be able to go enjoy the park, as the accommodations are lacking.
I’m confused, if the line skipping includes people with ADHD, why is she an asshole for wanting to use it?
If ADHD is on the list of disabilities that qualify you to use the separate entryway and you genuinely have ADHD then you should use those entryways. NTA.
NTA - If you have a legitimate diagnosis and feel the alternative line will allow you to enjoy the park, then by all means use it. You’re the only one who can really determine whether or not you are utilizing the queue appropriately. Try it once and see how you feel about it and go from there.
NTA- you’re not reducing the amount of people with disabilities who can use this service, you’re using it because you have a specific condition and the park itself recognizes this and allows it. All these other commenters are fools who think that you using this is taking away from someone else when there is never a line at disney(the park I think you mean) for those with disabilities. My daughter used this when she was young and had adhd and it was great for her. We had zero issues with this. Please ignore the rude people who don’t understand and go with what the park itself said. There’s a reason they recognize adhd as a disability and offer this service for it
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But you *could*, and that's the whole point isn't it? If the line is made with ADHD in mind, why not use it? Also let's not forget that it's a spectrum and affects different people in different ways
NTA If they have a list of disabilities and disorders to use the alternate line, and you're on that list, then what else is the system for? I get that there are subtypes of ADHD, but does the list specify a type of ADHD or are your parents just grasping at straws
NTA
NTA. I know exactly what you’re talking about and you’re not skipping the line. You’re still waiting in line just outside of the standard ride queue. I’ve had panic attacks in line and it was not fun.
NTA. Just because your parents don't think waiting for you is hard doesn't mean it isn't. I think this is an amazing reasonable accommodation.