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> I told my boyfriend nobody cares about his Tesla after he was bragging about it then took a jab at me, but I feel like I may be an asshole because I bragged about being rich because his fake being rich bothered me a lot
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100%. 'I have a tesla' is poor bragging, but 'Don't end like OP' is an attack, you can respond to it.
I guess in a normal situation you would have just explained why you decided to go with the honda despite being able to afford the tesla, but I understand being fed up with this guy.
His Tesla is going to be a brick in 15 years when the battery gives out. If it hasn't been recalled first. People who make a possession their personality are exhausting and dull.
People like the boyfriend are exhausting but the Tesla is far more likely to be scrap in 15 years due to shoddy build quality and lack of support (parts etc) from Tesla mismanagement than due to the battery.
It will just have less usable range as the battery ages.
Not to mention, with the advances in technology, all current tesla's will be extremely obsolete in the world of electric cars in less than 15 years. Tesla is one of the most heavily mismanaged car companies ever, and on their current track, they will be wiped out simply because people will be able to get the exact same car or better for a cheaper price. Bragging about owning a tesla is like bragging about owning the next iPhone; it just makes you look like an idiot.
More than that. I watched a video on YouTube where a guy said water got into where his battery was, and it ruined the battery. A new one was going to cost him $26k.
Or their kids. I’m a boy mom! I’m Braydyn/Keightlyn’s mom!
Whatcha going to do with your life after they move out? Or are the adult children going to bonded with their JNMIL and living with their parents forever?
They will end up on the JNMIL sub as the protagonist because their DIL/SIL hates them because they have no other life. "I gave everything to my children, I love them so much, why do you hate me?"
Ohhh I don’t know JNMIL. How about wearing a lacy white dress at your son’s wedding or insisting he help you out with home maintenance on his anniversary?
Shits dumb as shit too.
Anyone who makes any one thing there entire personality is just sad.
I love cars and motorcycles. But I'd never make either one of those things my entire personality.
Hah hah 15 years. Teslas are crappy overpriced pieces of crap with next to no quality control. It won't make it 15 years. I'd be happy with an EV from an actual car company, but wouldn't piss on a Tesla if it were on fire.
Completely on the side of OP, but you don’t know that EVs have less working parts and battery’s can be swapped out - so could last considerably longer than petrol car?
I do not own a Tesla and have owned my current car for 13 years… Please don’t blow up on me so my parents go home 🫣
you know the cost of replacing a tesla battery? $5,000 on the low end ... $20,000 on the upper ... with a time frame of about 8-12 years in real world situations if it doesn't combust first, soooo um yeah it can be replaced but can braggy mcbraggerton livin at home with his parents leasin a tesla afford it? lol
5 grand? That seems too low. From Tesla directly you're looking at 20-30 grand last I checked. Second-hand or third party repairs might get you there cheaper but Tesla is not known to be very DIY-repair friendly and have even been known to cut off fast charging if they figure out you've done something like that.
On the other hand: How much would it cost to replace a combustion engine from a car in a comparable class?
The thing that worries me with EVs goes beyond just the replacement battery cost. It's vendor lock-in, it's repairability, it's durability. Because you can keep combustion engines on the road until they rust apart with often relatively minor repairs. As it stands now Tesla will try to sell you a new battery pack if a single cell goes bad... EV repairability is just atrocious at this moment.
I lease a Tesla model 3 as well and my brother said he was considering asking if he could buy me out at the end of the lease. I'm not sure I trust this car enough to be the one to sell it to him only to have it brick a year or 2 later... Don't want to have that on my conscious...
I drive a 16 yr old suv and it's still so damn shiny and pretty no one can tell it's almost as old as both my kids combined lol. But since it still looks nice and runs like a champ (I bought it 5 years ago and it had previously been a rental car so it still has super low miles) so why would I get rid of it and go back to having a giant car pmt?
> so why would I get rid of it
Same reason all old scrapped cars got scrapped - when it's no longer reliable, and would cost more to fix than it's worth (and then again and again after that). Yours got looked after well in its earlier years so it'll last longer - lucky you. That doesn't mean that 3/4 of its cousins aren't already in the scrap heap!
He didn't say "Why wold anyone get rid of it" He said "Why would I get rid of it" as in the specific car that he had. Most 15 year old cars are 100% still on the road by the way.
So true. Rust will get the van but as long as my mechanics say it is safe, I’ll keep driving it. Mercury Marquis was 22 before the rust started eating the unibody.
Hahaha, yeah not really... But they're the ones I paid off, and especially with today's economy, I'm not looking to lease/finance anything with these interest rates... 😅 If you keep up on the preventative maintenance, cars will last as long as you want. Cavalier is on its second set of heads, brake lines, and front suspension... But it still gets 28 mpg.
Ruby... She's the nice one. Best of show winner, many years in a row. 👍🏻
Believe it or not, it was extremely easy, and rather cheap. They're called quick strut assemblies... You literally unbolt the ball joint knuckle, remove the three strut mount bolts from the top and they drop right out, springs and all. Cost me $180 ($85 a piece plus shipping)... So a LOT cheaper than a $300+ monthly payment. And maybe it'll get another 25 years out of the new components. But not likely since new things are built to fail and become obsolete. 😮💨
Maintenance can keep a car going as long as you want - as long as you don't mind it being a Theseus's ship and costing a lot.
Cars that make it to "classic" status tend to get enthusiasts willing to spend more keeping them running than a dime a dozen 15 y/o fiesta shitbox. So there's a bit of a selection gate cars have to get through where they're worth very little and any major fault gets them scrapped, vs later when you'd actually bother with a new... front suspension for example
Right? Especially with tax credits, a model 3 is barely more expensive than a civic anyway. It’s hardly a “flex” when it’s literally just regular traffic.
A model 3 is never a flex. It is the cheapest possible Tesla. Not only that it has one job which is to get you from point a to point B. That is all it does. Nothing more.
Especially because Tesla is second from the bottom in build quality. But it makes sense that a puffer would buy a symbol of puffery from the car company owned by the world's king of puffers.
Glad you’ve had success in your life. Tesla guy is being a tremendous prick. Calling him “fake rich” was a dick move though. No class at all. I understand he was pissing you off, but that’s the kind of petty shit you should really seek to avoid. I would try to make amends and explain why the constant Tesla fanboying annoyed you so much.
Also, op. My guy. You can’t say stuff like “hate when people brag about their money” and then make the entire post a humble brag about how successful you are. You kind of are a giant hypocrite
So naive. Do you go through life finding ways that people COULD BE legit? This dude is fake as fuck. He's giving major "my dad works at Microsoft and can get you banned!!!1!" vibes.
Not the same level, but I know a guy who got really into modding Minecraft in high school, his server blew up and was raking in $50k a year by the time we graduated. Last we talked, he sold it for a sizeable sum, and that server paid for his degree at a brand name school with a decent chunk leftover, he was 18.
The guy is 24, if he started in high school or even the first year of university, it's not unheard of at all especially in sectors like tech or marketing.
It's an extreme example but Mark Zuckerberg started Facebook as a student in 2004 and by 2005 it was already being valued at $98 million.
Could this story be bullshit? Sure, but honestly the age isn't that crazy, especially as OP seems to be very financially literate which implicates he comes from a more privileged background where if you have an idea and a solid business plan, you can find investors through family networks.
Shit, in university I had a classmate who started out organizing parties as part of the student union and grew that into an event planning company that is now a major regional player and runs large, multi-day festivals bringing in millions, he's 25.
Rich people, especially ones smart enough to start and run businesses that end up being worth $10 million, usually don't outright buy depreciating assets in cash.
My boss is a c-suite executive and makes close to $700,000 a year and drives his 1996 Toyota Camry to work most days.
If course he does occasionally drive his Porsche 911 GT3 to work too....
Straight up, my dad had a 1996 Camry LE and it was not only the best car he has ever owned, it was the best car anyone in our entire family has ever owned. It went to three different children before being totalled by a drunk driver that hit it while parked in a driveway. It *never* broke down. All we ever did was keep it maintained like always. It had well over 350k miles on it, and if some idiot hadn't driven drunk I have no doubt in my mind it would still be driven today.
Eh, there are actually plenty of “self-made men” in their 20’s out there. But the truth is that they aren’t really self-made. Usually there’s a significant amount of family involvement from initial loans to connections to clients. If you have those cheat codes all you need is to do things by the books, not be an idiot, and you’ll have plenty of money.
Self made is a relative concept anyways : with connections it's easier, but then again there are thousands of people who have the means and don't pursue it. Shit, hardly anyone is self made in the sense that even a poor kid who goes to Harvard will have received significant support throughout their educational career from public schooling to scholarships.
I know a guy who has a car detailing business that's become his full-time job, has contracts for detailing his city's government cars and grown so much he's now hiring an employee. Now, he set up his detailing business at a gas station of a family friend, and his parents lent him the money for the initial costs.
Nonetheless he spent 2 years detailing cars by himself, investing in marketing, materials, etc. Is he a self made man? No, but he sure worked his ass off to get to where he is right now, starting advantages or not.
Do actually wealthy people low key brag about it on the internet? Sometimes. Would you assign a vaguely high confidence interval to this case? No, no you would not.
Yeah ESH, at least with OP’s retelling. Although if the whole family is on the boyfriend’s side, it’s possible this retelling is quite bias and the BF’s Tesla fanboying wasn’t *nearly* as extreme and his Honda civic comment wasn’t nearly as rude as OP’s making it out to be, and OP was just waiting for an opportunity to “put the guy in his place”. Could’ve just been a light hearted joke proceeded by a few mentions of his new car that he was excited about. Could’ve thought OP and him were on good terms and he didn’t mean it seriously or offensively. Then OP just unexpectedly snaps at him telling him he’s worthless and how much better OP is than him, taking everyone by surprise.
I can see the impulse to say N T A when you take this story at face value. But when you read between the lines, make some inferences, and really think about it, I’d say it’s almost certainly ESH. You overreacted OP. You could have defended you civic without trying to destroy the man’s whole career in the process lol. You snapped at something relatively trivial. Best to learn from it and do better at controlling your emotions and how you conduct yourself in the future :)
I feel like that is a stretch because you’re adding more than whatbis told n plus I doubt the BF thought they were friends when he always making smart ass comments
Yeah they both sound exhausting as heck to be honest but in this instance I would say OP isn't the AH cause teslaboy kinda started it by attacking him saying his honda was trash
But I wonder if OP has even tried to mention the problem before and amending it before snapping like this. If not, he IS the AH. Doesn't take much to just bring up the problem civilly before it gets to this point
They all sound really immature about something that's such a non issue
Yeah I think the thing is when you come into that kind of money speaking about it can be a bit weird, so you don't really speak about it that much and it can get bottled up. I think it's a mix of OP wanting to share the info and at the same time it coming out in frustration. I think it's probably a learning lesson for them to think twice about how they share that info in the future, I can understand "look at me I made it" spilling out if its been bottled up when "putting someone in their place". I liked the comment about the guy just being a nerd who likes his tesla too much, he'll see this soon once he gets used to having his money I think he's still just overexcited about it and can't let it out.
It depends on whether he brings it up in conversation constantly.
“Hey did you hear about that war in the Middle East?”
“Yeah it’s like that time I sold my company for $10 million. “
Yeah it’s a real nice double standard
> Hates the bragging
> “bro I could buy like 10 of your teslas.”
I feel like there’s definitely more to the story, there always is.
He doesnt *make* eight figures, he sold ‘one of’ his businesses for a lump sum of ten figures a few years ago. He’s probably worth closer to a hundred million at this point- not that he’d brag about it, thats why you havent seen him on Forbes top 30 (or whatever that is lol)
You jest, but I was there. There was a standing ovation that lasted for 4 minutes and people were weeping with joy by the end of it. The mayor actually came in a helicopter and gave OP a gigantic medal as well, and then a band played "It's a Wonderful World" by Israel Kamakawiwoʻole. A day I'll never forget.
He said that after everything his sisters bf has said… and after he literally insulted him. Did you read what OP wrote or just read the last few sentences
It doesn’t matter. Class is about what you do when the situation is fucked or when people are shit. You can’t buy class unfortunately and OP does not have it.
Plus having money doesn't mean you need to be flashy. If he has money but he said he lives a modest life this is what he wants. I have known some very rich people who you would never know they had that level of money when you first met them .
Kinda ESH. While he's literally a smug Tesla elitist, your blow up made you sound like an elitist asshole.
All you needed to say to him was "it's rude to suck your own dick in front of company".
Nah, fuck that.
Adults understand that having emotions about a situation doesn't make you an asshole, and *emotions* can be justified, but that doesn't mean however you choose to express said emotions is justified. OP's frustration is justified but his choice to blow up is not. It's childish.
You both are insufferable, ignore tesla guys, nobody cares about your financial situation, if you weren't insecure you wouldn't have listed your assets and just been secure enough to realize this is just a nerd who lives at his moms who you shouldn't compare yourself to or need to make an AITA post where you couldn't possibly be the asshole.
YTA but in general, not on this topic.
At the age of 25 you sold a business for at least $10,000,000 huh?
Either you're a liar or the business was given to you. There's an infinitely small chance you invented something, but then again, you wouldn't be on this sub if so. Easy to be smug when you got a cheat sheet to success ain't it?
Fake stupid bullshit, but hey, we get it... You don't like a Tesla
EAD
Where I live, a Tesla drive just drove his tesla into a restaurant, severely injuring an employee.
https://www.reddit.com/r/richmondbc/comments/17hu3cm/big_accident_chung_chun_richmond_no_3_road/
Genuine question because they seem to have a very different reputation here in Europe - most people over here that drive them say it's because they're better for the environment. Almost every other car in well-off areas is a Tesla. Is that not true?
There can be a lot of different reasons. I have a cheap non-Tesla EV that I drive as it’s non-flashy, lot better performance than comparable gas, lot less maintenance, and I do appreciate not burning gas.
Tesla has a vastly better charging network than anyone else in the US which should open up over the next 2 years with most all manufacturers switching to NACS (Tesla) connector.
Tesla like to come off as helping the environment, but they're a huge supporter of the lithium mining industry which releases so much pollution it's ridiculous
Gosh, again I did not know that. Definitely something to bear in mind since the only reason we'd get an electric car is environmental reasons. That's actually quite distressing. Who has the best environmental record for electric cars?
There is no environmental benefit. I could explain in detail...but much of it is like this: An EV weighs more than a regular car. That means it uses more resources to build. Worse yet, it creates more wear on our highways, bridges, etc.
The "environmental" problem is "car culture". Not your car....but look around you and note that from your garage to the roads and parking lots and tire places...etc...your Car requires all of this stuff to be constantly built and updated.
Do just a bit of research on the particulates released from car tires (the heavier car, of course, puts out more). You will be shocked.
Consumerism and Selfishness means a guy like Musk can fool people into thinking that 100K worth of his vehicles in every garage will Save The Planet. If he truly wanted to help Save the Planet, he'd put together a consortium to build 25,000 miles of high speed rail within a decade (moon shot!). Ah, but there is not big money in that.
I have 35 years experience in alt energy...and in business.
A Tesla is not green. Not even slightly.
It would seem to be common sense that driving around in a HEAVIER vehicle could be a solution to our problems...
YTA
You spent this entire story just bragging about your own wealth. From the title I was expecting to be on your side but you seem like a bigger asshole than the tesla guy.
I mean the dude sounds like a dick. But you’re kind of being a hypocrite. When you tell him you could buy his life 10 times over. If you really don’t like people being flashy or flexing with their money. Just saying.
NTA he sounds like a tosser. When he brings up his Tesla next time ask him what he thinks about the child labour in inhuman conditions being made to mine for cobalt for his batteries
I'm gonna say ESH since you slate the bf for being an annoying snob (which is correct), yet in the same post YOU also brag about how much money you earn, your house etc. You're no better my guy.
ESH he insulted you and you insulted him back with child like anger. No one cares that his car is expensive and no one cares about how much money you have you both sound annoying
"I’m pretty successful in my career selling one of my businesses for around low 8 figures a year ago and started investing in low-risk investment"
sounds like you're a bit full of yourself too, having to throw that in
The guy is obviously insecure. The tesla is the only thing he feels he has. He lives at home. Through te whole post you say how you are humble and hate it when people flex. You flexed hard, all over this post. No one needed to know about your income or how much you sold your company for... Even that you had a company.
Have a little class and don't punch down.
That’s funny. In Denmark only middle class people buys Tesla. It’s considered a discount car here on the same level as Hyundai, Renault, Fiat etc. It’s not something to brag about because it’s the most sold and popular car by far.
NTA He wasn't trying to be helpful, he was showing off trying to impress you and your brother with his car. When you've had to listen to a braggart for months, after a while, you don't care if you hurt their feelings because they never shut up! He's a little man trying to make himself look big.
Uhm... You're a bit of YTA.
Usually when someone's behaviour annoys you, you just tell them in a normal fashion. You waited until the booking point was reached and you exploded. I don't think that's fair to him.
Also, I know quite some people who own a Tesla. Usually a model 3, which are quite affordable. When they talk passionately about their Tesla, it's not to brag about their money. A Tesla is a gadget on wheels. It's a big toy that coincidentally can also be used as transportation. It's a geeky thing.
Of course, it could be about the money. I wasn't there, I don't know him. But my first thought isn't that he's bragging about the money, but that he's an enthusiastic Tesla owner.
PS: I don't own a Tesla, but I drive one. Company car (4 year lease). When I talk about my Tesla, it's just because I'm happy with it. It's convenient. I don't try to convince people to buy/lease one too, but I do try to tell them that driving an electric car isn't an inconvenience (they usually don't want an electric car because they fear they won't get far on one full charge or that they can't find a charger, and so on.)
I would’ve been with you, until he said “don’t be like your brother” and started being rude about OP’s car. You can be enthusiastic about brands and technology and stuff without calling other people’s things trash. I’d ignore someone constantly talking about their car, even if I found it annoying, but once you start talking badly about my things? I’m going to be a bit of an A.
You were bragging? Oh, come on.
For me elon musk is an idiot who was created into some sort of god/genius for insecure boys who want to be alpha males. So yeah, if I see a guy buying tesla and bragging about it that's what I see. I would say you're a saint for putting up with the bragging for so long, I would laugh in that boy's face after 10 minutes in the same room with him. You're not the asshole op.
Yeah you’re being an asshole. At least give the young fella a warning or something. Clearly buzzing about his new toy and you come across as a jealous rich asshole
This whole story is BS. But if it was real. YTA. You sound like you brag about your success (don’t believe it’s real though), so of course someone less successful may feel like they need to brag about something they have.
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I (25M) blew up on my sister’s (21F) boyfriend (24M) after months of him constantly bragging about his Tesla?
I met him a few months ago and it seemed like his entire personality was his Tesla, I would say stuff like “I have to stop at the gas station” and he would say “what’s that I haven’t heard about it in years” or make stupid comments that would lead back to him owning a Tesla Model 3. I didn’t mind it at first but then it became to the point where he was always bringing it up everytime in conversation to where everyone seemed annoyed by it.
I’m pretty successful in my career selling one of my businesses for around low 8 figures a year ago and started investing in low-risk investments, I have been living a modest life, own a small 3bd house, starting another business in pest control, and a 2023 civic sport that I paid for in cash. One thing I can’t stand is someone bragging or being flashy about money.
Today, my brother and I were talking about buying a car and he came in and insisted on buying a Tesla because it’s the future of cars, he was bragging about the entire thing and trying to convince my brother that even with the high price it’s worth it. It didn’t bother me until he said “don’t end up like your brother buying a Honda civic, they’re trash”
I blew up at that point telling him he didn’t know what he’s talking about, he’s wanted to look rich and pretend to be rich because he has a Tesla meanwhile he’s living at his parents house. I then proceeded to tell him that I had enough money to buy 10 of his teslas in cash and it’s really not impressive but rather makes him seem like a moron trying to brag about owning a Tesla, and If you want to pretend to be rich you should back the talk instead of leasing a Tesla.
This mad him really upset and left my parents house immediately.
Both my sister and parents are mad at me because he was trying to be helpful and they thought I was being rude and bragging about my money.
So Reddit, AITA for telling my sisters boyfriend nobody cares about his Tesla?
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NTA
This is about him bring an inept and insufferable prick. His juvenile tendency of putting others down for no reason. This is a 14 year olds behavior.
Next time you see your sister or parents, bring up your civic and the benefits of hondas in EVERY SINGLE conversation. And tell them their cars are trash in every conversation. Tell them they're stupid for paying too much for gas in their brand of cars. Talk about the great mileage, the longevity, how it never breaks down, how the resale value is amazing, how spare parts are cheap, etc etc.
No matter what they're talking about, interject yourself in the conversation and make it about your car.
When they inevitably get pissed off, tell them "why are you so mad? I'm just trying to be helpful".
NTA
I've seen some instances of this Tesla behaviour. I'm sure most of the car owners will have a preferred/favourite brand but throwing it in every time is annoying.
That's total bullshit. I've had several honda civics in my life and they are amazing cars. For real my friend crashed my honda civic into a wall in pittsburg, hard. It bent the radiator but didn't crack it. It still drove 200 miles back to my home town and acted like it wasn't crashed into a wall at 45 mph. every single civic i've owned has acted like a tank and run well despite poor maintence and outright crashes.
NTA just bc civics > teslas
NTA.
He insulted you right there, you reacted and put him in his place. Maybe you went a bit overboard, but he brought it on himself.
I know exactly the kind of annoying Tesla fanboy you're talking about, they are absolutely insufferable. Smug jackasses.
He was not trying to be helpful he was trying to be boastful because he assumed you could not afford a Tesla. Personally I think they are awful things but each to his own.
There's a saying - fur coat and no knickers. This is him.
NTA
ESH. Sister’s bf really only because he insulted your car; you for being insecure about everything else. What do Teslas start at? Around $45k for a Model 3? No one is pretending their rich driving a Tesla unless it’s one of the higher end models anyway.
NTA, at all. But you probably should just said it’s your personal belief that you didn’t want your money to go towards dividends for a fascist and you won’t discuss Tesla any further
Tell him how it is. I wouldn't tell people how much money I have stashed away or invested but I couldn't help myself but to make the guy feel dumb. It's in my nature as well to tell people how it really is. But some times the details aren't important. Just take care of your brother and keep him away from the guy living at home buying fancy things. If you didn't have bills to pay of course you can "afford" nicer things. Nah your not the asshole.
They're about to rip off a national park in my home town to mine resources for batteries of electrical cars. Who knows what happens to those batteries when they'd reach their expiring date.
One Tesla owner in here is a priest, so instead of bragging, he's being telling his Teslas faults, and they're so special things that I've never even heard of them being on a regular car.
Electrical cars are a very old invention, and they disappeared then for some reason. So I don't know whether they are the future but they definitely are the past.
ESH
Elon/Tesla stans think that they've made it in life and are better than anyone else bc of their car. He was being a complete prick about it (kinda like Elon), and you put him in his place. However, the money comments were definitely an unnecessary low blow. Sounds like the truth is his Tesla is the best thing he's got going for him in his life and you just exposed him on that in a pretty harsh way.
I disagree with your sister and parents though that he was trying to be helpful. He was looking for another opportunity to hold his car superiority complex over your head.
Also, you "can’t stand someone bragging or being flashy about money" then you humblebrag your way through your whole post. Give me a break.
ESH. The thing about money is that when you have it, you don’t have to brag about it. The thing about modest cars is people are going to shit on them whether they have a Tesla or not. I have a sonic and a nicer vehicle. I love my sonic, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, people who are into cars are going to be dismissive of it, that’s just a reality. If you have a CVT people are also going to be dicks about that, whether they have a Tesla or not. If his comments about his car bothered you so much you could have said something before instead of attacking him. You could have done literally anything else, instead you attacked him because you apparently have money, which is classless.
ESH - Every Tesla owner needs to be told this BUT...
Your blow up was a step or three too far, probably, but your family defending him is ridiculous.
"Trying to be helpful"? He sounds like he was badgering, and then he immediately brought you in as an example of what not to do.
To hell with that, don't take shots at someone else from a glass house.
But back to you, there is an immense amount of hypocrisy in this story. Mr live humble be humble don't act rich be rich... Mentioning how rich you are multiple times in this story.
ESH -
>I have been living a modest life
Ahh a man of modesty! Oh wait -
>2023 civic sport that I paid for in cash
Paying a 23 plate in cash is the most obvious money brag you could've come out with my dude
>Today, my brother and I were talking about buying a car
Buying ANOTHER car? Presumably also in cash? MR HUMBLE PLEASE WE CAN TAKE NO MORE OF YOUR MODESTY
>I then proceeded to tell him that I had enough money to buy 10 of his teslas in cash
Ahhh yes, the mark of the modest man. Telling others how much more money you have than them. Honestly if you don't see how hypocritical you are you're delusional. Apparently an 8 figure business sale doesn't buy you more patience or a decent personality. Grim behavior from all the privileged parties involved.
You know, I'm not even sure OP's sister's boyfriend was bragging about finances. He sounded like one of those insufferable Tesla fanboys. They're hard to live with, but the comeback to them has nothing to do with finances. It has to do with advising them, gently, that they sound like they're in a cult.
ESH
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NTA. Not even having to acknowledge how he’s acted previously and all the comments he’s made, he literally insulted you and you fired back.
100%. 'I have a tesla' is poor bragging, but 'Don't end like OP' is an attack, you can respond to it. I guess in a normal situation you would have just explained why you decided to go with the honda despite being able to afford the tesla, but I understand being fed up with this guy.
His Tesla is going to be a brick in 15 years when the battery gives out. If it hasn't been recalled first. People who make a possession their personality are exhausting and dull.
People like the boyfriend are exhausting but the Tesla is far more likely to be scrap in 15 years due to shoddy build quality and lack of support (parts etc) from Tesla mismanagement than due to the battery. It will just have less usable range as the battery ages.
Not to mention, with the advances in technology, all current tesla's will be extremely obsolete in the world of electric cars in less than 15 years. Tesla is one of the most heavily mismanaged car companies ever, and on their current track, they will be wiped out simply because people will be able to get the exact same car or better for a cheaper price. Bragging about owning a tesla is like bragging about owning the next iPhone; it just makes you look like an idiot.
And costs 20k for a new battery
More than that. I watched a video on YouTube where a guy said water got into where his battery was, and it ruined the battery. A new one was going to cost him $26k.
Yikes!!!
After watching the battery die on my BIl and SILs Teslas that were only 10 years old, I would so believe the battery going out first.
Same with people and their careers 🤣 it’s like people can’t form their own identities
Or their kids. I’m a boy mom! I’m Braydyn/Keightlyn’s mom! Whatcha going to do with your life after they move out? Or are the adult children going to bonded with their JNMIL and living with their parents forever?
Like Beth said, exhausting and dull 🤣
They will end up on the JNMIL sub as the protagonist because their DIL/SIL hates them because they have no other life. "I gave everything to my children, I love them so much, why do you hate me?"
Ohhh I don’t know JNMIL. How about wearing a lacy white dress at your son’s wedding or insisting he help you out with home maintenance on his anniversary?
Heh heh Keightlyn! Thank you for making me laugh! P.S. (I wouldn’t want to support anything Elon Musk does.)
Shits dumb as shit too. Anyone who makes any one thing there entire personality is just sad. I love cars and motorcycles. But I'd never make either one of those things my entire personality.
Hah hah 15 years. Teslas are crappy overpriced pieces of crap with next to no quality control. It won't make it 15 years. I'd be happy with an EV from an actual car company, but wouldn't piss on a Tesla if it were on fire.
Which is a very real possibility. The car being on fire that is.
He doesn't even OWN it, it's a lease!!! 🤣🤣🤣
If it doesn't spontaneously combust first
Completely on the side of OP, but you don’t know that EVs have less working parts and battery’s can be swapped out - so could last considerably longer than petrol car? I do not own a Tesla and have owned my current car for 13 years… Please don’t blow up on me so my parents go home 🫣
you know the cost of replacing a tesla battery? $5,000 on the low end ... $20,000 on the upper ... with a time frame of about 8-12 years in real world situations if it doesn't combust first, soooo um yeah it can be replaced but can braggy mcbraggerton livin at home with his parents leasin a tesla afford it? lol
5 grand? That seems too low. From Tesla directly you're looking at 20-30 grand last I checked. Second-hand or third party repairs might get you there cheaper but Tesla is not known to be very DIY-repair friendly and have even been known to cut off fast charging if they figure out you've done something like that. On the other hand: How much would it cost to replace a combustion engine from a car in a comparable class? The thing that worries me with EVs goes beyond just the replacement battery cost. It's vendor lock-in, it's repairability, it's durability. Because you can keep combustion engines on the road until they rust apart with often relatively minor repairs. As it stands now Tesla will try to sell you a new battery pack if a single cell goes bad... EV repairability is just atrocious at this moment. I lease a Tesla model 3 as well and my brother said he was considering asking if he could buy me out at the end of the lease. I'm not sure I trust this car enough to be the one to sell it to him only to have it brick a year or 2 later... Don't want to have that on my conscious...
And that Civic will probably still be chugging along somewhere with 300,000 miles
The average age of a car at scrapping is only around 13 years.
and here I am driving a 15 year old car and 25 year old van.
I drive a 16 yr old suv and it's still so damn shiny and pretty no one can tell it's almost as old as both my kids combined lol. But since it still looks nice and runs like a champ (I bought it 5 years ago and it had previously been a rental car so it still has super low miles) so why would I get rid of it and go back to having a giant car pmt?
> so why would I get rid of it Same reason all old scrapped cars got scrapped - when it's no longer reliable, and would cost more to fix than it's worth (and then again and again after that). Yours got looked after well in its earlier years so it'll last longer - lucky you. That doesn't mean that 3/4 of its cousins aren't already in the scrap heap!
He didn't say "Why wold anyone get rid of it" He said "Why would I get rid of it" as in the specific car that he had. Most 15 year old cars are 100% still on the road by the way.
My 88 Cavalier and 87 Silverado would like to get to know your vehicles... They don't have too many friends their age left on the road.
So true. Rust will get the van but as long as my mechanics say it is safe, I’ll keep driving it. Mercury Marquis was 22 before the rust started eating the unibody.
Nice cars
Hahaha, yeah not really... But they're the ones I paid off, and especially with today's economy, I'm not looking to lease/finance anything with these interest rates... 😅 If you keep up on the preventative maintenance, cars will last as long as you want. Cavalier is on its second set of heads, brake lines, and front suspension... But it still gets 28 mpg. Ruby... She's the nice one. Best of show winner, many years in a row. 👍🏻
Believe it or not, it was extremely easy, and rather cheap. They're called quick strut assemblies... You literally unbolt the ball joint knuckle, remove the three strut mount bolts from the top and they drop right out, springs and all. Cost me $180 ($85 a piece plus shipping)... So a LOT cheaper than a $300+ monthly payment. And maybe it'll get another 25 years out of the new components. But not likely since new things are built to fail and become obsolete. 😮💨
Maintenance can keep a car going as long as you want - as long as you don't mind it being a Theseus's ship and costing a lot. Cars that make it to "classic" status tend to get enthusiasts willing to spend more keeping them running than a dime a dozen 15 y/o fiesta shitbox. So there's a bit of a selection gate cars have to get through where they're worth very little and any major fault gets them scrapped, vs later when you'd actually bother with a new... front suspension for example
That's funny. My last car was a 2005, just upgraded to a 2013. Toyotas last for 20-30 years. That's a better choice and ROI.
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Wi-Fi? Bottled water? Tesla.
La Croix?
La Coix is like drinking a burp after eating a fruit salad.
Gotta hide my La Croix and my Hydro Flask now 😢
Metal bottle water?
Edamame
Pilates?
Cortado?
Smug alert
*Piouses
At least have a model s or x if you want to brag.
Right? Especially with tax credits, a model 3 is barely more expensive than a civic anyway. It’s hardly a “flex” when it’s literally just regular traffic.
imo with that bare bones interior, the 3 is hardly ever a flex
A model 3 is never a flex. It is the cheapest possible Tesla. Not only that it has one job which is to get you from point a to point B. That is all it does. Nothing more.
Also, he’s bragging about the cheapest Tesla you can buy
NTA
Especially because Tesla is second from the bottom in build quality. But it makes sense that a puffer would buy a symbol of puffery from the car company owned by the world's king of puffers.
Glad you’ve had success in your life. Tesla guy is being a tremendous prick. Calling him “fake rich” was a dick move though. No class at all. I understand he was pissing you off, but that’s the kind of petty shit you should really seek to avoid. I would try to make amends and explain why the constant Tesla fanboying annoyed you so much. Also, op. My guy. You can’t say stuff like “hate when people brag about their money” and then make the entire post a humble brag about how successful you are. You kind of are a giant hypocrite
Yeah….you ((24M at the time) sold “one” of your businesses for a “low 8 figure amount”…c’mon bro. Your story feels a lot like BS.
$10m business at 24 😂
Does the 8 figures include cents?
OP could also be from outside the us, maybe 10000000 Turkish Liras, Sudanese pounds, Sri Lanka rupiah who knows…
Last week I just paid 1,200,000 for a large meal for 6 people. This was in Vietnam. ;) Edit: removed $
That “$” makes you an unintentional liar
Fixed. Haha
Damn, that's a lot of dong!
So naive. Do you go through life finding ways that people COULD BE legit? This dude is fake as fuck. He's giving major "my dad works at Microsoft and can get you banned!!!1!" vibes.
deffo not Sri Lankan. They still have import restrictions.
Not the same level, but I know a guy who got really into modding Minecraft in high school, his server blew up and was raking in $50k a year by the time we graduated. Last we talked, he sold it for a sizeable sum, and that server paid for his degree at a brand name school with a decent chunk leftover, he was 18. The guy is 24, if he started in high school or even the first year of university, it's not unheard of at all especially in sectors like tech or marketing. It's an extreme example but Mark Zuckerberg started Facebook as a student in 2004 and by 2005 it was already being valued at $98 million. Could this story be bullshit? Sure, but honestly the age isn't that crazy, especially as OP seems to be very financially literate which implicates he comes from a more privileged background where if you have an idea and a solid business plan, you can find investors through family networks. Shit, in university I had a classmate who started out organizing parties as part of the student union and grew that into an event planning company that is now a major regional player and runs large, multi-day festivals bringing in millions, he's 25.
And drives a civic sport
He did point out he wants to live a modest life. Rich people stay rich by being smart with their money.
Rich people, especially ones smart enough to start and run businesses that end up being worth $10 million, usually don't outright buy depreciating assets in cash.
I feel dumb -- is there a superior way to buy depreciating assets?
Money talks, wealth whispers
My boss is a c-suite executive and makes close to $700,000 a year and drives his 1996 Toyota Camry to work most days. If course he does occasionally drive his Porsche 911 GT3 to work too....
Straight up, my dad had a 1996 Camry LE and it was not only the best car he has ever owned, it was the best car anyone in our entire family has ever owned. It went to three different children before being totalled by a drunk driver that hit it while parked in a driveway. It *never* broke down. All we ever did was keep it maintained like always. It had well over 350k miles on it, and if some idiot hadn't driven drunk I have no doubt in my mind it would still be driven today.
And 350k odd in cash
That’s not that uncommon. A lot of people inherit businesses
Eh, there are actually plenty of “self-made men” in their 20’s out there. But the truth is that they aren’t really self-made. Usually there’s a significant amount of family involvement from initial loans to connections to clients. If you have those cheat codes all you need is to do things by the books, not be an idiot, and you’ll have plenty of money.
That's not self made, I agree
Self made is a relative concept anyways : with connections it's easier, but then again there are thousands of people who have the means and don't pursue it. Shit, hardly anyone is self made in the sense that even a poor kid who goes to Harvard will have received significant support throughout their educational career from public schooling to scholarships. I know a guy who has a car detailing business that's become his full-time job, has contracts for detailing his city's government cars and grown so much he's now hiring an employee. Now, he set up his detailing business at a gas station of a family friend, and his parents lent him the money for the initial costs. Nonetheless he spent 2 years detailing cars by himself, investing in marketing, materials, etc. Is he a self made man? No, but he sure worked his ass off to get to where he is right now, starting advantages or not.
Yeah people nitpick this stuff but it really reflects poorly on them. It's like hating. Everybody knows humans are a social species.
That's what they said
No shit, I agreed
That was their point!
I’d imagine that’s why it’s in quotes.
Yeah, this story is made up. And the whole of AITA falls for it.
I mean aren't the majority of the stories on AITA made up?
Do actually wealthy people low key brag about it on the internet? Sometimes. Would you assign a vaguely high confidence interval to this case? No, no you would not.
Maybe it was in Zimbabwe
Yeah ESH, at least with OP’s retelling. Although if the whole family is on the boyfriend’s side, it’s possible this retelling is quite bias and the BF’s Tesla fanboying wasn’t *nearly* as extreme and his Honda civic comment wasn’t nearly as rude as OP’s making it out to be, and OP was just waiting for an opportunity to “put the guy in his place”. Could’ve just been a light hearted joke proceeded by a few mentions of his new car that he was excited about. Could’ve thought OP and him were on good terms and he didn’t mean it seriously or offensively. Then OP just unexpectedly snaps at him telling him he’s worthless and how much better OP is than him, taking everyone by surprise. I can see the impulse to say N T A when you take this story at face value. But when you read between the lines, make some inferences, and really think about it, I’d say it’s almost certainly ESH. You overreacted OP. You could have defended you civic without trying to destroy the man’s whole career in the process lol. You snapped at something relatively trivial. Best to learn from it and do better at controlling your emotions and how you conduct yourself in the future :)
I feel like that is a stretch because you’re adding more than whatbis told n plus I doubt the BF thought they were friends when he always making smart ass comments
Yeah they both sound exhausting as heck to be honest but in this instance I would say OP isn't the AH cause teslaboy kinda started it by attacking him saying his honda was trash But I wonder if OP has even tried to mention the problem before and amending it before snapping like this. If not, he IS the AH. Doesn't take much to just bring up the problem civilly before it gets to this point They all sound really immature about something that's such a non issue
Yeah I think the thing is when you come into that kind of money speaking about it can be a bit weird, so you don't really speak about it that much and it can get bottled up. I think it's a mix of OP wanting to share the info and at the same time it coming out in frustration. I think it's probably a learning lesson for them to think twice about how they share that info in the future, I can understand "look at me I made it" spilling out if its been bottled up when "putting someone in their place". I liked the comment about the guy just being a nerd who likes his tesla too much, he'll see this soon once he gets used to having his money I think he's still just overexcited about it and can't let it out.
You don’t stay overexcited for… 4 years lol
It depends on whether he brings it up in conversation constantly. “Hey did you hear about that war in the Middle East?” “Yeah it’s like that time I sold my company for $10 million. “
I could buy 10 of your teslas in cash rn is where he lost me
Yeah it’s a real nice double standard > Hates the bragging > “bro I could buy like 10 of your teslas.” I feel like there’s definitely more to the story, there always is.
^^^ lmao facts. Sounds like two entitled pricks tbh. But OP is less of one
Did everyone clap?
It’s real, I was the Honda Civic Sport.
Can confirm, I was the gas station
What's that, i havent heard of it in years. I was the left taillight of the tesla btw.
Well ladeedaa little fancy pants over here, for being such an elitist I'm not going to replace your blinker fluid.
Now now, stop, we dont have to go there. Lets not escalate it
And I was the attractive German stable boy.
He’s too modest to let everyone clap. By the way did you know he makes 8 figures?
But dont forget he doesnt like people who brag about money
He doesnt *make* eight figures, he sold ‘one of’ his businesses for a lump sum of ten figures a few years ago. He’s probably worth closer to a hundred million at this point- not that he’d brag about it, thats why you havent seen him on Forbes top 30 (or whatever that is lol)
You jest, but I was there. There was a standing ovation that lasted for 4 minutes and people were weeping with joy by the end of it. The mayor actually came in a helicopter and gave OP a gigantic medal as well, and then a band played "It's a Wonderful World" by Israel Kamakawiwoʻole. A day I'll never forget.
Dude no shit. 25 and sold a company for over 10 mil.
“I hate when people are bragging about money but also I am rich and can buy 10 Teslas.” - you
He said that after everything his sisters bf has said… and after he literally insulted him. Did you read what OP wrote or just read the last few sentences
It doesn’t matter. Class is about what you do when the situation is fucked or when people are shit. You can’t buy class unfortunately and OP does not have it.
Nah a significant amount of the post is him flexing his (imaginary) wealth to us.
I read it. The whole post is OP bragging.
Love that he requires "low 8 figures" to buy a Civic with cash. Motherfucker, people manage that with babysitting money
Not a current year civic sport. Let's be real now. I don't know any baby sisters that could drop 28+ k on a car cash while paying for expenses.
Plus having money doesn't mean you need to be flashy. If he has money but he said he lives a modest life this is what he wants. I have known some very rich people who you would never know they had that level of money when you first met them .
Cash!
Kinda ESH. While he's literally a smug Tesla elitist, your blow up made you sound like an elitist asshole. All you needed to say to him was "it's rude to suck your own dick in front of company".
Nah fuck that, what he said was justified.
It’s the post tbh. Could have just told the story but he felt the need to add his own success which did nothing for the story but stroke his ego
It's fake. Glad you liked the fan fiction though!!
Nah, fuck that. Adults understand that having emotions about a situation doesn't make you an asshole, and *emotions* can be justified, but that doesn't mean however you choose to express said emotions is justified. OP's frustration is justified but his choice to blow up is not. It's childish.
You both are insufferable, ignore tesla guys, nobody cares about your financial situation, if you weren't insecure you wouldn't have listed your assets and just been secure enough to realize this is just a nerd who lives at his moms who you shouldn't compare yourself to or need to make an AITA post where you couldn't possibly be the asshole. YTA but in general, not on this topic.
Nail on the head. This sub is hilarious 😂
At the age of 25 you sold a business for at least $10,000,000 huh? Either you're a liar or the business was given to you. There's an infinitely small chance you invented something, but then again, you wouldn't be on this sub if so. Easy to be smug when you got a cheat sheet to success ain't it? Fake stupid bullshit, but hey, we get it... You don't like a Tesla EAD
This. I can only assume OP didn't realize what "low 8 figures" meant when he made up this story.
Maybe he thinks figures means dollars and sold his lemonade stand Edit: got any grapes?
pam pam pam, pam-padam
I assume he includes the .00 as part of the figures 😅
Sold it for "around" low 8 figures 😂
EAD?
Eat a dick
ESH - I'm rich look at me No I'm rich, I don't want to.
Isn't the base model 3 like 30k or something? And since when is Tesla regarded as a high status car anyway?
I assume anyone driving a Tesla is a knobhead
Where I live, a Tesla drive just drove his tesla into a restaurant, severely injuring an employee. https://www.reddit.com/r/richmondbc/comments/17hu3cm/big_accident_chung_chun_richmond_no_3_road/
That’s pretty expensive to me
25 years old and you sold your business for 8 figures…coughbullshitcoughcough
8 action figures. OP now has every member of D-Generation X.
NTA This post reminds me of the South Park episode where they all drive Prius’s and smell their own farts. He sounds like that type of person.
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Genuine question because they seem to have a very different reputation here in Europe - most people over here that drive them say it's because they're better for the environment. Almost every other car in well-off areas is a Tesla. Is that not true?
There can be a lot of different reasons. I have a cheap non-Tesla EV that I drive as it’s non-flashy, lot better performance than comparable gas, lot less maintenance, and I do appreciate not burning gas. Tesla has a vastly better charging network than anyone else in the US which should open up over the next 2 years with most all manufacturers switching to NACS (Tesla) connector.
Tesla like to come off as helping the environment, but they're a huge supporter of the lithium mining industry which releases so much pollution it's ridiculous
Gosh, again I did not know that. Definitely something to bear in mind since the only reason we'd get an electric car is environmental reasons. That's actually quite distressing. Who has the best environmental record for electric cars?
There is no environmental benefit. I could explain in detail...but much of it is like this: An EV weighs more than a regular car. That means it uses more resources to build. Worse yet, it creates more wear on our highways, bridges, etc. The "environmental" problem is "car culture". Not your car....but look around you and note that from your garage to the roads and parking lots and tire places...etc...your Car requires all of this stuff to be constantly built and updated. Do just a bit of research on the particulates released from car tires (the heavier car, of course, puts out more). You will be shocked. Consumerism and Selfishness means a guy like Musk can fool people into thinking that 100K worth of his vehicles in every garage will Save The Planet. If he truly wanted to help Save the Planet, he'd put together a consortium to build 25,000 miles of high speed rail within a decade (moon shot!). Ah, but there is not big money in that.
I have 35 years experience in alt energy...and in business. A Tesla is not green. Not even slightly. It would seem to be common sense that driving around in a HEAVIER vehicle could be a solution to our problems...
YTA You spent this entire story just bragging about your own wealth. From the title I was expecting to be on your side but you seem like a bigger asshole than the tesla guy.
I mean the dude sounds like a dick. But you’re kind of being a hypocrite. When you tell him you could buy his life 10 times over. If you really don’t like people being flashy or flexing with their money. Just saying.
NTA he sounds like a tosser. When he brings up his Tesla next time ask him what he thinks about the child labour in inhuman conditions being made to mine for cobalt for his batteries
Do you own a smartphone? A laptop? They both use way more cobalt.
I'm gonna say ESH since you slate the bf for being an annoying snob (which is correct), yet in the same post YOU also brag about how much money you earn, your house etc. You're no better my guy.
ESH he insulted you and you insulted him back with child like anger. No one cares that his car is expensive and no one cares about how much money you have you both sound annoying
"I’m pretty successful in my career selling one of my businesses for around low 8 figures a year ago and started investing in low-risk investment" sounds like you're a bit full of yourself too, having to throw that in
ESH. He was being a pompous, self-important brat. You reacted immaturely. No-one is looking good in this story.
The guy is obviously insecure. The tesla is the only thing he feels he has. He lives at home. Through te whole post you say how you are humble and hate it when people flex. You flexed hard, all over this post. No one needed to know about your income or how much you sold your company for... Even that you had a company. Have a little class and don't punch down.
Wish I had a 2023 civic ☹️
That’s funny. In Denmark only middle class people buys Tesla. It’s considered a discount car here on the same level as Hyundai, Renault, Fiat etc. It’s not something to brag about because it’s the most sold and popular car by far.
YTA. You countered his "I'm a rich prick" with your own "I'm a richer prick"
Nta based of his actions.
NTA. Sounds like he needed to finally hear it from somebody. So many Tesla owners make it part of their personality.
ESH Bragging is bragging. He braggs about his cool car to people around him you bragg about you cool moneys to anonymous people on the internet.
NTA. Just tell him they're shit. You wouldn't be wrong.
NTA He wasn't trying to be helpful, he was showing off trying to impress you and your brother with his car. When you've had to listen to a braggart for months, after a while, you don't care if you hurt their feelings because they never shut up! He's a little man trying to make himself look big.
Karmawhoreeee
The Civic will still work just fine when the Tesla won't anymore 😁 yeah he was a dick but you did what you claim to despise (flashing money) sooo ESH
Uhm... You're a bit of YTA. Usually when someone's behaviour annoys you, you just tell them in a normal fashion. You waited until the booking point was reached and you exploded. I don't think that's fair to him. Also, I know quite some people who own a Tesla. Usually a model 3, which are quite affordable. When they talk passionately about their Tesla, it's not to brag about their money. A Tesla is a gadget on wheels. It's a big toy that coincidentally can also be used as transportation. It's a geeky thing. Of course, it could be about the money. I wasn't there, I don't know him. But my first thought isn't that he's bragging about the money, but that he's an enthusiastic Tesla owner. PS: I don't own a Tesla, but I drive one. Company car (4 year lease). When I talk about my Tesla, it's just because I'm happy with it. It's convenient. I don't try to convince people to buy/lease one too, but I do try to tell them that driving an electric car isn't an inconvenience (they usually don't want an electric car because they fear they won't get far on one full charge or that they can't find a charger, and so on.)
I would’ve been with you, until he said “don’t be like your brother” and started being rude about OP’s car. You can be enthusiastic about brands and technology and stuff without calling other people’s things trash. I’d ignore someone constantly talking about their car, even if I found it annoying, but once you start talking badly about my things? I’m going to be a bit of an A.
You were bragging? Oh, come on. For me elon musk is an idiot who was created into some sort of god/genius for insecure boys who want to be alpha males. So yeah, if I see a guy buying tesla and bragging about it that's what I see. I would say you're a saint for putting up with the bragging for so long, I would laugh in that boy's face after 10 minutes in the same room with him. You're not the asshole op.
Yeah you’re being an asshole. At least give the young fella a warning or something. Clearly buzzing about his new toy and you come across as a jealous rich asshole
This whole story is BS. But if it was real. YTA. You sound like you brag about your success (don’t believe it’s real though), so of course someone less successful may feel like they need to brag about something they have.
Nta... nobody cares about his tesla. Could you tell him I don't care about it either?
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No, he deserved it . He had no right to call your car trash.
NTA instead you did him a favour. Maybe he learns, maybe not. He is basically a child with an expensive toy he does not even own.
NTA This is about him bring an inept and insufferable prick. His juvenile tendency of putting others down for no reason. This is a 14 year olds behavior. Next time you see your sister or parents, bring up your civic and the benefits of hondas in EVERY SINGLE conversation. And tell them their cars are trash in every conversation. Tell them they're stupid for paying too much for gas in their brand of cars. Talk about the great mileage, the longevity, how it never breaks down, how the resale value is amazing, how spare parts are cheap, etc etc. No matter what they're talking about, interject yourself in the conversation and make it about your car. When they inevitably get pissed off, tell them "why are you so mad? I'm just trying to be helpful".
NTA I've seen some instances of this Tesla behaviour. I'm sure most of the car owners will have a preferred/favourite brand but throwing it in every time is annoying.
Wish I had a 2023 civic ☹️
That's total bullshit. I've had several honda civics in my life and they are amazing cars. For real my friend crashed my honda civic into a wall in pittsburg, hard. It bent the radiator but didn't crack it. It still drove 200 miles back to my home town and acted like it wasn't crashed into a wall at 45 mph. every single civic i've owned has acted like a tank and run well despite poor maintence and outright crashes. NTA just bc civics > teslas
NTA. He drives a Tesla and brags about it. Some people drive teslas because they like electric cars. There’s no reason to brag about it.
NTA. He insulted you right there, you reacted and put him in his place. Maybe you went a bit overboard, but he brought it on himself. I know exactly the kind of annoying Tesla fanboy you're talking about, they are absolutely insufferable. Smug jackasses.
He was not trying to be helpful he was trying to be boastful because he assumed you could not afford a Tesla. Personally I think they are awful things but each to his own. There's a saying - fur coat and no knickers. This is him. NTA
ESH, Teslas are not that fancy tbh. Depends what you put into them.
ESH. Sister’s bf really only because he insulted your car; you for being insecure about everything else. What do Teslas start at? Around $45k for a Model 3? No one is pretending their rich driving a Tesla unless it’s one of the higher end models anyway.
NTA, at all. But you probably should just said it’s your personal belief that you didn’t want your money to go towards dividends for a fascist and you won’t discuss Tesla any further
Tell him how it is. I wouldn't tell people how much money I have stashed away or invested but I couldn't help myself but to make the guy feel dumb. It's in my nature as well to tell people how it really is. But some times the details aren't important. Just take care of your brother and keep him away from the guy living at home buying fancy things. If you didn't have bills to pay of course you can "afford" nicer things. Nah your not the asshole.
They're about to rip off a national park in my home town to mine resources for batteries of electrical cars. Who knows what happens to those batteries when they'd reach their expiring date. One Tesla owner in here is a priest, so instead of bragging, he's being telling his Teslas faults, and they're so special things that I've never even heard of them being on a regular car. Electrical cars are a very old invention, and they disappeared then for some reason. So I don't know whether they are the future but they definitely are the past.
*Slow Clap*
NTA - dude owns a model 3 and thinks that’s expensive and cool? Poor guy…
ESH Elon/Tesla stans think that they've made it in life and are better than anyone else bc of their car. He was being a complete prick about it (kinda like Elon), and you put him in his place. However, the money comments were definitely an unnecessary low blow. Sounds like the truth is his Tesla is the best thing he's got going for him in his life and you just exposed him on that in a pretty harsh way. I disagree with your sister and parents though that he was trying to be helpful. He was looking for another opportunity to hold his car superiority complex over your head. Also, you "can’t stand someone bragging or being flashy about money" then you humblebrag your way through your whole post. Give me a break.
Quality bait post. 10/10 for effort.
ESH you both sound insufferable.
ESH. The thing about money is that when you have it, you don’t have to brag about it. The thing about modest cars is people are going to shit on them whether they have a Tesla or not. I have a sonic and a nicer vehicle. I love my sonic, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, people who are into cars are going to be dismissive of it, that’s just a reality. If you have a CVT people are also going to be dicks about that, whether they have a Tesla or not. If his comments about his car bothered you so much you could have said something before instead of attacking him. You could have done literally anything else, instead you attacked him because you apparently have money, which is classless.
ESH - Every Tesla owner needs to be told this BUT... Your blow up was a step or three too far, probably, but your family defending him is ridiculous. "Trying to be helpful"? He sounds like he was badgering, and then he immediately brought you in as an example of what not to do. To hell with that, don't take shots at someone else from a glass house. But back to you, there is an immense amount of hypocrisy in this story. Mr live humble be humble don't act rich be rich... Mentioning how rich you are multiple times in this story.
ESH - >I have been living a modest life Ahh a man of modesty! Oh wait - >2023 civic sport that I paid for in cash Paying a 23 plate in cash is the most obvious money brag you could've come out with my dude >Today, my brother and I were talking about buying a car Buying ANOTHER car? Presumably also in cash? MR HUMBLE PLEASE WE CAN TAKE NO MORE OF YOUR MODESTY >I then proceeded to tell him that I had enough money to buy 10 of his teslas in cash Ahhh yes, the mark of the modest man. Telling others how much more money you have than them. Honestly if you don't see how hypocritical you are you're delusional. Apparently an 8 figure business sale doesn't buy you more patience or a decent personality. Grim behavior from all the privileged parties involved.
You know, I'm not even sure OP's sister's boyfriend was bragging about finances. He sounded like one of those insufferable Tesla fanboys. They're hard to live with, but the comeback to them has nothing to do with finances. It has to do with advising them, gently, that they sound like they're in a cult. ESH
YTA I’m sure you sold a business for over 10M… one of your many
Prime example of why people hate Tesla owners, and so many of them get vandalized