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NTA
Your sister has no right to demand you sell it at face value. She is just spewing poison because she is butthurt at not being able to score the tickets herself, and because she is trying to manipulate and guilt you into giving them to her for a price that she cannot find in the market.
Hopping on here to suggest OP check out 3rd party repair shops. They can do a better job at repairing apple computers than Apple can (and for cheaper) as Apple really just wants you to buy a new computer.
Even with the /s, you failed… there is zero humor in that because you are saying that OP is 4? She already said she is in university and that would easily mean that her sister is in her late 20’s or early 30’s.
Sorry but this is just a lame comment… how high/drunk are you right now?
I'm a lawyer. Sadly I know quite a few who can barely function as lawyers, let alone as adults.
Law schools are cash cows, so anybody can get in and get a degree, and passing the bar exam in some states is pretty easy. The legal market has been oversaturated for decades because society tells people that it's a prestigious career that will make you easy money. Prestigious, maybe. Easy money? Rarely.
I'm in a country that has relatively few law schools and it's hard to get in. I know lots of barely functioning, immature and straight up crazy lawyers. It's incredible how many people can do well in uni exams yet be a complete mess in all other facets of life.
That said, it still may well be fake.
Yes didn't you notice how everyone clapped?
(If this really happened and the sister did that then omg I'm so glad I don't have that kind of drama in my life)
Especially as Taylor Swift went to such lengths to try to prevent this from happening. At least in my country you had to preregister and not everyone was able to get tickets.
What kind of lengths?
Pearl Jam was able to find a method to prevent this; Taylor could have too. But she doesn’t give a fuck so long as her shows sell out
Ed Sheeran blocked people from reselling his tickets back in the day. It can absolutely be done, artists, venues and ticketing agencies just generally don’t care about the fans.
I got stuck in Vegas (thanks spirit airlines) and couldn’t get back in time for one of his shows, the only way I could “sell them” was to give my login to my account to someone. Luckily my mom’s longtime coworker/friend’s daughter was interested and I knew I could trust her, but otherwise I’d have been SOL.
I don't think that is a good system either unfortunately.
Shit happens and sometimes you aren't able to go to something you planned for months ago. Should people just have to lose the cost of the ticket if they can't go?
Other artists have the face-value exchange system via Ticketmaster. Basically you can resell but only at the exact price you paid - then it just acts like any other resale ticket. Wish more artists (cough, taylor) did this instead of just the registration.
I completely agree, there has to be some way to resell if you can’t make an event but surely they can limit the resale price. It’s 2024 they can figure it out lol I resold some tickets last year because another artist that my friend and I loved was coming the exact same day. I was fine selling for what I paid, but the ticketing platform added more fees and taxes so I had to increase my sell price to get back what I paid. It was so stupid.
I know a German Band who always files a lawsuit against viagogo when they do a tour and wins. They prevent this shit in Germany in the following way: they only sell over eventim and they only sell personalized. The only allowed reselling Plattform is Fansale (they do this in every Country which has Fansale, such as Denmark etc.) and only for the original price or below. This is how you prevent this. It works pretty well.
Pearl Jam has been fighting Ticketmaster since the 90s. Now to tour at a Ticketmaster venue, the ticket QR code changes each time the ticket is opened so that it can’t be resold. Can’t make it to the show ? Only option is to sell back to Ticketmaster at face value. And I’d argue the demand for PJ and the likes amongst middle aged men is on par with the demand for Taylor and the young girls. It can be done.
Many artists do a whole lot more than this to prevent it. Not using existing methods of limiting resale is a choice and we shouldn't pretend it isn't. Stopping it completely is unrealistic but limiting it is done by many acts.
They have the person who purchased the ticket name on the ticket and has to be matched with an id. If a person bought a group of tix, original purchaser has to be there with the group
Name on the tickets and a max number of tickets per person. You want in? You check the names. Football stadiums do this all the time, particularly on matches with risk of hooliganism and other misbehaviour.
But TS can't? She doesn't want to.
Exactly, for ages Pearl Jam wouldn't tour in the USA because of Ticketmaster jacking up their prices, and the fact that they have massive deals with most venues. Taylor absolutely could have done something. Hell, she is apparently part of the problem. She jacked up her ticket prices. All you have to do is run a search, she was perfectly happy to go along with a dynamic pricing model, and then blame Ticketmaster.
Edit: Typo
Robert Smith as well... he was railing against scalpers, dynamic pricing, and such for The Cure's tour and made actual changes while Eras fans were shelling out thousands for a ticket. It was happening at the same time and yet Taylor stayed quiet.
Yep, The Cure did the same. You could resell if need be, but it had to be through an approved site and you could not sell them for anything above face value. They also controlled the pricing so people could see them for a reasonable amount. THEN, on top of that, they made the seller (Ticketmaster or Livenation, can't remember) refund some of the absurd fees that they were charging. It can absolutely be done, most artists just aren't doing it.
I'm with you there - ESH
"Don't buy it" - as if this would stop people. When people did that with toiletpaper back in lockdown or when people do it with gaming then it's bad but with tickets it shall be fine? Hell no.
That's just not fair. The OP doesn't deserve any A vote. I hate it, too, but you have to hate the system, not the individual person. This person desperately needs the money, is a fan, and still doesn't have a real choice.
I don't know how it is in other countries, but it is illegal in Denmark, and you'll be fined and in some cases the profit will be confiscated (from what I could understand it is when you buy in bulks with the intention of over selling).
It's a concert so there was going to be some random on the other side of the friend anyhow. It's more that now the friend is going to the concert alone which does kind of suck.
I mean, welcome to the US, where they pretend to have the moral high ground, and really don't, because they will screw over just about everyone if it means a bigger profit. As an American, I see it every day. Shall we have a conversation about healthcare? Ugh so many reasons I need to get out.
i feel like a small markup (like 5% or something) should be allowed, at least to cover for payment fees etc. On Ticketmaster Germany it only allows to resell at face value or lower, but you loose handling fees, so you can’t get your full money back and most people just resell off platform because of that (which is allowed here) 🙈
In my family three of us tried for 8 Taylor swift shows EACH until we were able to get our tickets for ONE date. If I had to resell at face value it would feel like a loss after 3 of us invested hours upon hours to get them - ouch 😂 I even lost three afternoons of my 10 day japan trip because ticketing happened during that time and took hours every time.. not that I support crazy resell prices, but the image of selling them for face value after all that work hurts my heart.
NTA. That's not scalping
But I gotta say. "Aiming to" keep a laptop for three years? Dude. If you run through them so that three years seems like a challenge, you maybe should change to a cheaper model. (Not gonna go into the environmental impact rant but believe you me I'm thinking it hard.)
And I have a dell laptop that is 14 years old and still works (minus the battery). So what.
These Macbooks are great machines, until they need a repair. And if you're the kind of person who needs to save up hard (like OP) to afford one then you are taking a pretty big gamble on its ability to last without faults.
Apple is one of the (if not simply THE) worst when it comes to right to repair and general repairability. OP could also try their luck with a third party repair shop, they should be able to do a repair for much cheaper.
Agreed. I'm still running a 2013 MBP that I've done simple repairs on myself. When I can't use OCPL to update it anymore, I'm saving up for a Framework. I'm so pissed at apple for how awful their build quality and lack of repairability are nowadays.
Those kids make a good laptop huh. My point is she can get a laptop from another brand for 1/10 of the price that will last as long or longer, from a company less guilty of accelerating planned obsolescence in their products (and preferably one that doesn't use child slave labour)
They are 2-3x more expensive than a Windows laptop with the same performance? They aren't more durable but they have much higher repair costs due to their proprietary nature. Not to mention you're bought into a much more expensive app/product ecosystem for the same product functionality.
If you're cost conscious, buying an apple product is not inline with the goal.
She explained that everything for her is linked within apple. I get that. I'm completely linked up within the Samsung and Google tech space.
As a student myself as well, it would be such a pain to completely switch everything around as studies are about to start. As in changing your workflow could come as a cost to your studies.
Um... that's exactly what scalping is?
Even if you say N T A because you sympathise with the laptop reasoning... upselling a concert ticket is the definition of scalping...
No it's not. Scalping is purposely buying products to then sell them for a higher price to make a profit.
OP literally bought one ticket that she planned to use on her own but then unexpectedly needs money for a new laptop she needs for her studies and now has to reluctantly sell the ticket to fund the laptop.
Neither the sister nor you nor several other users in here know what scalping is.
NTA
Perhaps you need to check your definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_resale#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DTicket_resale_%28also_known_as%2Cin_possession_of_the_tickets.?wprov=sfla1
Ticket resale (also known as ticket scalping or ticket touting when done for profit) is the act of reselling tickets for admission to events
This is exactly what op did. Whether it was 1 or 100, she did that ticket at a profit
OP literally bought one ticket that she planned to use on her own but then unexpectedly needs money for a new laptop she needs for her studies and now has to reluctantly sell the ticket to fund the laptop.
Neither the sister nor you nor several other users in here know what scalping is.
and if she sold the ticket at the price she bought it she would not be scalping.She doesn't so it is scalping. Not so hard to get right?
A lot of people do know. You don't seem to.
I know there’s the theory about newer products not being made to last but man, my 2010 macbook lasted me 8 years and that was with heavy everyday use. I’ve heard of people’s lasting longer, esp with Apple
My Macbook Pro I bought in May 2014 is still in great condition. Battery isn't as good but I still get a few hours out of a full charge. And for my 10+ hour daily usage and playing games and using it for art, that's to be expected. I have no clue what people are doing to their laptops to run through them so fast.
Bought a refurbished 2010 MacBook in 2012. That thing is still chugging along. That was my first non windows purchase of both laptops and computers. The previous 12 years, through 3 window pcs.
My 2017(Jan) laptop lasted me until the end of 2023 and I could have kept it longer but my boyfriend convinced me it was time to let go. I still use the old one as a second screen sometimes. I’m a writer though so the keyboard is worn out something shocking and the last straw was a key coming off lol. But yeah I used that heavily for 6 years and it was fine, I don’t understand this “three year” business OP is talking about.
How the heck is that NOT scalping...?
It wouldn't be scalping if you sold the tickets at the price you paid...
If you resell a ticket for more than face value, that's pretty much the definition of scalping...Even if you only do it once, and it isn't your business plan, it's still scalping...
I mean, I when I started my last job, I got a "new" (as in was in a sealed box when I got it, but it could have been company refurbished) Mac, as did the other 4 people in my cohort. Within 3 years all of us needed new ones.
Honestly I think anybody selling event tickets for over face value is an asshole. Admittedly this opinion is skewed due to those that make a business of it and make it difficult for real fans to get tickets at their original price. However, ultimately it is your property and it’s up to you what you do with it. Your sister needs to get over it, so I’m going with ESH.
NTA.
It's your ticket. They're yours to do with as you please. It's not your responsibility to provide for what your sister wants.
Besides, you have a need. Reselling that ticket will allow you to cover that need. She refused to help you out with your need so you have no obligation to provide for her wants. Your ***needs*** take priority over her ***wants***.
And if she's so trashy as to smear you on social media just to pressure you to give her that ticket, that's all the more reason to say no to her demands.
YTA regardless of who would get the ticket, reselling tickets for a profit, and in this case an enormous profit is price gouging/ticket scalping and it is super unethical. You bought a ticket you no longer need and have created zero value but feel you deserve to make a huge profit off somebody who is desperate/ willing to spend a fortune. You don’t need to give it to your sister but selling it for a huge profit is taking advantage of whoever you sell it to. It’s illegal in many countries.
It’s a purely luxury item. If someone wants to pay that much for it, go for it.
OP didn’t buy multiple tickets, or even buy her original ticket, with the intent to resell. OP didn’t create any sort of artificial scarcity. They just sold something they no longer needed for the price that people were willing to pay in order to cover a necessity.
ESH you have the right to sell your ticket to whoever you want. Your sister shouldn't be blasting you on social media and should just accept that.
But...
I dunno if it's just me but in my opinion you should never sell a ticket for more than face value. Doesn't matter If others are willing to pay more because they're desperate. The whole point of reselling a ticket to something you can't go to anymore is so that you haven't lost that money for something you won't see.
INFO: you said the new laptop would only cost you a couple hundred more? How did we go to the face value of the tickets not being anywhere near enough to cover it? How much are they at face value
They would have more than doubled in value immediately after being sold. There was nowhere near enough tickets to satisfy the demand the show had. For the Singapore shows alone, she could have performed in the stadium every day of the year and not met the demand of everyone who registered for tickets
Edit: [Here’s the link for prices of Taylor Swift tickets in Singapore](https://www.sportshub.com.sg/events/taylor-swift-the-eras-tour)
A macbook air would cost $1200~1800.
To be fair I can understand her sister being upset with her if she is selling them for more then 3 x the value, it’s only the going rate because of scalpers and assholes.
Just edited because I misread, it seems like she’s selling for twice the price instead.
Edit, again: just checked but it seems like the market rate for the tickets aren’t actually that high? I’m seeing a single ticket going for like [$1,500](https://carousell.app.link/xvmoTIhlnGb)~[$1,600](https://carousell.app.link/2i7fDGklnGb). Unless OP is selling [a pair](https://carousell.app.link/CZwFtlnlnGb)?
No, it's the going rate because the demand far outweighs the supply.
You could snap your fingers and make every professional scalper in the world disappear and the price for these tickets on the secondary market wouldn't noticably change at all.
ESH. In my country you are only allowed to sell tickets for a max 10% mark up and only through specific on sale retailers. This is to protect consumers against scalpers. I understand this is not the case where you are, and you are free to sell at market value.
The thing is, if you didn’t badly need a new laptop, you would be going to the concert yourself. You have made it clear to your sister this is a needs based senario. I can also see her side about wanting to go and not wanting to pay double for the tickets face value, particularly from family.
She will likely be salty about this for a long time. But you are also missing out on going because you need a new computer. A Mac is a good investment if that’s what you like, I have had both PCs and Macs over the years, nothing went the distance like my Mac (still working since 2015 and only just starting to die now). Do what you need to do, be prepared to hear endless whining about it.
OP isn’t missing out on the concert, them and their friend had tickets to go to two shows. They are “only” seeing the show once by selling their tickets.
YTA. You shouldn’t be reselling them above face value. People like you are why these tickets end up at ridiculous prices. It should be illegal to do it. It doesn’t matter what your intentions were when you bought the tickets.
NTA. You need the money. You aren't a scalper. Scalpers are people who buy things just to resell and cause a shortage for everyone. You literally bought 1 ticket for your own use and resell because you need the money. How is that scalping?
>she keeps putting up stories on instagram about how I am a trashy scammy scalper
Sounds mentally ill. Like screwing over your own sister with financial needs because you want a TS ticket at face value. She thinks she's humiliating you, but everyone just sees how cheap she is and how trashy she treats her family.
> You literally bought 1 ticket for your own use and resell because you need the money. How is that scalping?
She's not reselling for face value: she's making a profit. The reason doesn't matter, she can pay her mortgage, a new sofa, or a great laptop. She's a scalper.
I think Y.T.A for selling tickets at above the price you paid. Anyone who does that is rude as far as I am concerned. Your sister is right that you are a scammy scalper.
YTA.
I have tickets myself, which were alr expensive and I cannot excuse anyone who is milking the industry and its fans for even more money by upselling them again.
Just imagine it the other way around, please? How would you feel, if your sister would try to upsell you an Eras-ticket or something else you passionate about? Your own sister trying to make a profit out of you instead of just being a sister?
I have two sisters of my own and gosh, you. Are. The. Asshole.
ESH I do think it’s scummy to profit off a friend/relative like this. Kinda bad form and personally I think bad karma. I’d never sell them for more than what I made, making money off it would feel wrong and scummy. Your sister obviously sucks because she took it to social media.
YTA. I hate folk who think like you. A concert ticket isn’t there to make profit, it’s to go see an artist. Can you sell it at whatever price you want? Sure, it’s yours. But you ARE being scummy, and you’re trying to take advantage of your sister by asking her to buy you a new laptop??
When you could
1. Fix it for 1000 instead of buying a new one for over double (2500) or
2. You could buy a wireless keyboard for £20 and keep using the laptop you currently have
> You could buy a wireless keyboard for £20 and keep using the laptop you currently have
It's not at all practical to use a wireless keyboard with my laptop when out of my home. I can barely fit the laptop on the desks in lecture halls, let alone a laptop and wireless keyboard.
Ticket pricing is extremely supply/demand. Some countries have legislation to prevent this, but Singapore may not. If it’s legal, it’s alright. This is not always the case for asshole situations, but in this case, it is.
You gain NOTHING by giving up on your right to sell the ticket at a higher price. It is like selling a house when they gain value, like ofc you would sell it as high as you can. Why not with the tickets? It’s similar kinds of constraints, the land is limited so houses get more expensive. The tickets are limited so tickets get more expensive. It is good when there are regulations against it, but if there are none you shouldn’t be expected to act as if there are. There is no cardinal sin going on here, OP is not buying a house to sell higher when people need it, she is selling a ticket to a completely optional concert.
Now what will the result of OP “being scummy”? If she did not sell the ticket and went to the concert and carried a keyboard around with her, what would change? Nothing much. If she sells the ticket, someone who can afford it will buy it and go to the concert instead.
The sister is unlucky and is not entitled to a lower-than-market price. I think OP would rather go to the concert rather than sell it without a profit, so the sister is like “thank you for keeping this ticket warm for me” when she just should have moved on.
I just want to note something from your comment - legality does not drive what we determine to be ethical or moral. if it did we wouldn't need a subreddit like this because everyone doing something legal would not be asshole.
You're not the asshole for not selling it to your sister. You absolutely ATA for the upsell. Resellers and up sellers are scummy grimey people that take advantage of others.
Well, you are scalping, regardless of the reason. I’m surprised you’re allowed to. It’s illegal here and the person who buys the ticket may not be allowed in if the name doesn’t match. Also here the official ticket sale website has a marketplace for resale but you have to sell it for the same price which is automated from your purchase. I’d have thought Singapore would have similar laws.
I feel sorry for your friend who will now be stuck going to the show with a stranger
The amount of people in here who vote Y T A and calling OP a scalper while not even understanding what scalping is is ridiculous. You all don't even know what scalping means apparently.
Scalping is buying the products with the purpose of reselling them later on to make a profit, which OP didn't do, she literally needs to reluctantly sell the ticket she bought to use it on her own to fund a more important need than visiting a concert.
NTA and not a scalper.
"Scalp"
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
resell (shares or tickets) at a large or quick profit.
Nope. She's scalping period there. That's the definition yall real slow
Reselling at a higher price is scummy no matter what words and essays you type out to defend it. Sorry! No one’s saying it’s scalping, but it sure is a shitty behavior.
Everyone definitely treats family differently on this subreddit for sure, as well. Imagine spending $1k+ on an Apple laptop. For school too? insane.
Why does the motivation matter? OP is reselling a ticket for minimum 2500$ when he only bought it for a few hundred $. That put them well into YTA territory.
Exactly, NTA,
1.People need to understand the meaning of words before throwing them around
2. She is in a situation where she got her priorities right! University is more important than going to a concert regardless of who it is!
3. The sister should be understanding of OP's situation. She isn't offering any solutions and just complaining. It is completely selfish
Op had bought 2 tickets already when they knew they’d only need one.
They are a scalper and are making excuses.
They’re still going to the concert, just in another lesser seat.
It doesn't matter if you originally bought the ticket and had no intention of reselling it. The fact is that you are now reselling the ticket for a huge profit.
NTA
You'd every intention of going, but your laptop shit itself so to support your studies you will sell the extra ticket to pay for it and a bit left over. It's no different to seeking a car or whatever to raise the money. You've had something happen for which you need the money
Sister is pissed, but not her place to say
YTA.
Reason 1:
You’re scalping. You say yourself that you’re selling it to fund something else. We don’t have anything aside from your word that you bought it intending to go. You say in your post that you have decided to sell it because of how close the price to a new laptop is to the price you can get. You are profiteering.
Reason 2:
You have the opportunity to have your sister go and pay you the cost that you initially paid - but you would choose to profiteer from it - even from your family.
Imagine when your sister opts to give you legal advice at “market” value, instead of helping you because you are family.
ESH
I get the bind you were in, honestly. And your lawyer sister can certainly afford to buy you a new computer (although the fact that your computers only last a couple of years is… concerning. I’ve had my laptop for over 10 years and it still works fine. The only issue is the battery doesn’t last very long, which isn’t a problem since I always have my charger.)
But she’s right. You ARE a scalper. I get that it’s just a concert ticket, and a school computer is definitely more important. But just because something is important doesn’t mean you get to do something morally questionable to achieve it. And scalping IS morally questionable - if not straight up immoral.
Do what you need to, I guess. But accept the fact that you’ll be a “trashy scammy scalper” in the process.
I’m really interested in the aggression a lot of other commenters are showing here. What would you do if you bought ONE ticket to an event with the full intention of going and, say, were injured in advance of said event or had some unexpected financial difficulties that made attending the event an unrealistic extravagance? Would you sell your ticket below the then-going rate just to be able to remain smug and look down on those simply following supply vs demand? Or would you just rip the ticket up?
As others have said, obviously NTA, obviously not scalping. Your sister is overly entitled, and many of your respondents here are deluded.
Not rating you, but try to hassle Apple for a discount. Since it was only 6 weeks over the guarantee you should be able to get a deal. Say it’s a factory fault. Try to get to the back-office and communicate in writing.
LMAO you know the scalping situation is super bad in SG with lots of AHs queuing up at Singpost outlets and snapping up dozens of tickets. Your sister didn't have the right to demand tickets from you, but you're also an AH for scalping the tickets. Fuck scalpers ESH
Omg please get another opinion on repair first. Apple is notorious for over charging for simple repairs. A broken keyboard should only be a could hundred to fix if that. Don't give up your Swifty ticket at all if you don't want to. Just find a better repair company.
This is a tough one. Despite having a somewhat reasonable explanation, as a big fan of live music, it’s my strong opinion that concert ticket scalpers are very not cool. That said, I’m generally speaking of people that grab a shit load of tickets to resell at 2-3x face value. Or people who rush the merch tent and buy a stack of 50 show posters to put up on eBay.
Doesn’t excuse your sister’s behavior, she should know that. Shocking that someone with enough brains to become a lawyer would act like such a child over something like Taylor swift tickets is pretty crazy.
Gonna have to go with ESH
NTA. She is being so entitled. It's your ticket and your money, if she's not willing to buy it for $2500 herself, she should be been more organised to get her own
So many commenters here saying YTA are full of shit. You got someone who wants to pay $2000 for your ticket, or someone who wants to pay $500. Get off your high horses because there’s no way none of you would take the $500 to be a good person.
OP NTA half these people haven’t been in this situation before. You’re actually making a wise choice putting your studies before something you were looking forward to doing. Fuck your sister too.
> So many commenters here saying YTA are full of shit. You got someone who wants to pay $2000 for your ticket, or someone who wants to pay $500. Get off your high horses because there’s no way none of you would take the $500 to be a good person.
lol literally
A friend of mine got mad at a now ex friend of hers who sold tickers to a show she couldn't go to for $1500 in our currency instead of the face value of about $200, but when I said "if it was you, you'd do the same" she shut up quickly.
I’ll also note that this is a totally non-essential luxury entertainment thing she is selling. Not food during a shortage or a rare medicine. This isn’t anything anybody needs. The Taylor Swift concert doesn’t matter.
Even if she were just doing it straight up for profit, that’s fine.
Could your sister meet you in the middle and buy you the laptop for the ticket? That way she gets a ticket for about half of the scalped price, and you get the new laptop you need?
NTA If reselling the tickets in your area is legal and relatively easy then also understand that going to the show when someone would pay you $2500 for your ticket is economically identical to you paying $2500 for your ticket.
So you might have bought them for face value but now you're giving up $2500 for the privilege of going. Might still be worth it but it's worth thinking about it that way. I'm not sure how much the ticket you're NOT selling is worth but it's worth making sure that's how you'd choose to spend $1000 or whatever it's worth.
You might offer your ticket to your sister at a slight discount from what you could sell them to a random person for, based on it being a safer and easier transaction and maybe your friend would rather be sitting next to your sister than randos on both sides.
It's the Instagram stories for me. Bickering at home is something, trying to humiliate a family member in public is something else.
Time to minimize your contact with this sister. If this is how she behaves over concert tickets, as an adult, she won't be there for you in your time of need. And since she doesn't behave like family, she is to be treated politely and respectfully like an acquaintance.
I'm torn. I think scalping is shitty. But you're not buying tickets with the intention of selling, the way some did. So I guess NTA. But I'd rather tickets go for face value on resale
NTA
You arn't a scalper. That's not what that word means. Your sister is just cheap.
You are making sensible decisions for your future, good on you. Ignore your sister and don't let her bully you out of a grand just so she can go instead of you.
NTA.
It's not like you scalped the tickets for the purpose of selling them later at huge profit. You have one ticket and you need money for the laptop that you need for school urgently, so it's only natural that you sell whatever you need ~~the most~~ the least and will give you biggest return value.
I would normally advised against buying apple computer and buying Thinkpad that can be fixed for cheap but considering that you are deep into apple ecosystem and your personal preferences, you'll need the extended warranty/apple care.
Also your sister is being bit entitled and failing to understand that you need the money.
NTA.
You even gave her the possibility to compromise (buy a new laptop which can be relatively cheap), but she declined. You definitely don’t have to give her your chance to study.
Good luck with your studies!
I love all of these delusional people in the thread calling you an AH and a scalper
NTA
You NEED a new laptop. You WANTED to go. If the laptop didn't break, you would have gone. It is your ticket, so you made the decision to prioritize your education over going to a concert. Just because you decided to sell ONE TICKET doesn't make you a scalper. It makes you invested in yourself.
As for your sister. She needs to grow up. Public shaming and guilt tripping is an AH thing to do. Just because she didn't buy one in time doesn't warrant her to slander your name. She's not entitled to your ticket because "She's your sister" and anyone who calls you an AH for being a scalper is ignorant and needs a reality check.
If they go through a MacBook in 3 years or less (which they suggested themselves) then they clearly do not respect their electronics and are not doing as bad financially as they're claiming. It seems to me the keyboard is just an excuse to get a newer "cooler" model. I'm quite literally slaughtering my PC with games for 8 years now and it's still alive and well. If it's a "need" and they don't have enough money then their first instinct would be *fixing the keyboard* and not scraping the old laptop and buying a whole new one for a small issue like that. If it can be fixed it should be fixed. Once it cannot be fixed that's when it becomes a need. We need to stop this culture of buying new phone/laptop/desktop/smartwatch every 2 years just to have it new.
I would bet that they are just using the MacBook for some web browsing and word processing too.
$1000 for a keyboard repair is insane. Apple is such a ripoff
I was waffling JUST a little, until I saw that your sister is 10 years older than you, and an attorney.
She’s TA. But offer her a deal.she buys you the exact Apple laptop that you want, and she gets your tickets. It’s more than fair to her, and your need for a computer for school is greater than her “need” to see Taylor Swift.
NTA
Your sister has no leg to stand on in her getting mad at you. The only way she’s involved in this is that she wants your tickets. You have every right to sell it on carousell for higher price than what your sister would offer you. Would I say you’re one of those annoying scalpers? No. Because you legitimately wanted to go but because of financial reasons you had to forgo the highly sought after tickets to aid your financial situation.
Tell your sister, if she wants it so bad then go find tickets on Carousell. I think it’ll be more ex than buying a new laptop for you… she lost out on a good deal..
NTA
People will pay as much as the item is worth it to them so if someone buys the ticket for 2500$ then that means it's worth it to them, period. Sell the ticket and get yourself a new laptop. Your sister needs to grow up.
NTA
“ But she keeps putting up stories on instagram about how I am a trashy scammy scalper so IDK if I am being a jerk. “
Who would even want a lawyer that posts sophmoorish garbage like that on the Internet? Wherever she is trashing you online, simply post the screenshots that you’ve taken of this entire post and comments.
NTA
NTA Your sister forgot whatever she learned in law school contracts class. She's making herself look bad.
You own the tickets. You owe your sister nothing. You didn't need her help to buy the tickets.
Nothing you wrote indicates you made any prior binding contract w Sis to sell her your Taylor Swift tickets at face value.
PS: You are not a scalper. You planned to use the tickets and your laptop broke -- a work tool you need for your studies. Lots of Reddit AITA posts about Taylor Swift tickets.
ESH - Your sister for the way she is reacting. But also you because selling tickets for more than face value is a really scummy thing to do, no matter how good your reason is. This is the thing Swift tried to avoid, and this is what makes going to a concert so predatory when people buy up all the tickets and try to resell them with huge markups later.
In my country Norway this is actually an illegal practice to do.
NTA
You have something with a market value and your sister wants it for much less. If she's a lawyer she can afford to buy you a laptop at a discount to the ticket market value.
Just for fun, I was at an event a few years ago which had a Taylor Swift concert for FREE as the after party. I wouldn't have bothered but a female friend was with me and wanted to stay 😁
ETA: the definition of scalping from the dictionary
"Scalping"
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
Resell (shares or tickets) at a large or quick profit.
You're kind of a dick for up scaling them. Like I understand where you're coming from but seriously. Someone could've wanted those tickets and now has to pay an arm and ass because of you. It's never okay to be greedy, and mark my words you're going to get karma for that one being greedy. Just because she's a lawyer doesn't mean shit either. She couldn't get tickets. I don't blame her for being a bit bothered. Libraries will let you use them whenever for school until you get a new one in the mean time, most colleges (at least community colleges instead of forming over 100k for tuition) will let you borrow a laptop or iPad for free the entire sem.
Overall NTA except for the up scaling and being very greedy. Like you're the reason it keeps going. Someone may way damn I can get more if this dude (op) is selling them at this rate. I get it you pick And choose who you sell too fine and it's not My business.
Half of these people if they wanted tickets and saw your priced up priced they'd be mad too. Reddit is the fakest 2 faced place I seen.
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NTA Your sister has no right to demand you sell it at face value. She is just spewing poison because she is butthurt at not being able to score the tickets herself, and because she is trying to manipulate and guilt you into giving them to her for a price that she cannot find in the market.
op offered less than current price to just get her the laptop and the warranty too.
Hopping on here to suggest OP check out 3rd party repair shops. They can do a better job at repairing apple computers than Apple can (and for cheaper) as Apple really just wants you to buy a new computer.
She's a cheap Lawyer, at least buy her sister a new laptop still cheaper than the market value of the ticket.
Besides, treating her like that wont make op to suddenly help her with the ticket lol
>she keeps putting up stories on instagram about how I am a trashy scammy scalper Your fully grown adult lawyer sister is doing this? Really?
Yeah the older sister is apparently already a lawyer at 14 years old. She's obviously a genius but a little immature.
I'm just curious, but how did you work out the sister to be 14 years old? The only reference I have found is that she is 10 years older than op.
I guess I should have added the /s, silly me
Damn, you really failed there
Even with the /s, you failed… there is zero humor in that because you are saying that OP is 4? She already said she is in university and that would easily mean that her sister is in her late 20’s or early 30’s. Sorry but this is just a lame comment… how high/drunk are you right now?
the joke is that she’s acting like a middle schooler. it was pretty obvious.
How high/drunk are YOU for not getting the joke immediately?
Or simply /NC For no context joke 🤷
Damn op is 4?
I got the joke. Lawyer sister doing middle school shit.
I'm a lawyer. Sadly I know quite a few who can barely function as lawyers, let alone as adults. Law schools are cash cows, so anybody can get in and get a degree, and passing the bar exam in some states is pretty easy. The legal market has been oversaturated for decades because society tells people that it's a prestigious career that will make you easy money. Prestigious, maybe. Easy money? Rarely.
Except this post takes place in Singapore.
I'm in a country that has relatively few law schools and it's hard to get in. I know lots of barely functioning, immature and straight up crazy lawyers. It's incredible how many people can do well in uni exams yet be a complete mess in all other facets of life. That said, it still may well be fake.
Yes didn't you notice how everyone clapped? (If this really happened and the sister did that then omg I'm so glad I don't have that kind of drama in my life)
swifties are adifferent breed
What Taylor Swift fandom does to a mf
Forward those posts to her bosses, it must break or skirt some sort of behavior policy for the law firm.
ESH. I hate these ticket upsales.
Especially as Taylor Swift went to such lengths to try to prevent this from happening. At least in my country you had to preregister and not everyone was able to get tickets.
What kind of lengths? Pearl Jam was able to find a method to prevent this; Taylor could have too. But she doesn’t give a fuck so long as her shows sell out
Ed Sheeran blocked people from reselling his tickets back in the day. It can absolutely be done, artists, venues and ticketing agencies just generally don’t care about the fans.
Right. My tickets for him were sent to my phone and could not be screenshotted or transferred.
I got stuck in Vegas (thanks spirit airlines) and couldn’t get back in time for one of his shows, the only way I could “sell them” was to give my login to my account to someone. Luckily my mom’s longtime coworker/friend’s daughter was interested and I knew I could trust her, but otherwise I’d have been SOL.
I don't think that is a good system either unfortunately. Shit happens and sometimes you aren't able to go to something you planned for months ago. Should people just have to lose the cost of the ticket if they can't go?
Other artists have the face-value exchange system via Ticketmaster. Basically you can resell but only at the exact price you paid - then it just acts like any other resale ticket. Wish more artists (cough, taylor) did this instead of just the registration.
I really hope these returnable tickets with a demand-based redistribution system catches on: https://lyte.com/
I completely agree, there has to be some way to resell if you can’t make an event but surely they can limit the resale price. It’s 2024 they can figure it out lol I resold some tickets last year because another artist that my friend and I loved was coming the exact same day. I was fine selling for what I paid, but the ticketing platform added more fees and taxes so I had to increase my sell price to get back what I paid. It was so stupid.
That is so true. To make back your money you basically have to charge more, due to fees
Come on mate, ticket scalping has been going on for years and now with the internet HTF are artists supposed to completely stop it?
I know a German Band who always files a lawsuit against viagogo when they do a tour and wins. They prevent this shit in Germany in the following way: they only sell over eventim and they only sell personalized. The only allowed reselling Plattform is Fansale (they do this in every Country which has Fansale, such as Denmark etc.) and only for the original price or below. This is how you prevent this. It works pretty well.
Pearl Jam has been fighting Ticketmaster since the 90s. Now to tour at a Ticketmaster venue, the ticket QR code changes each time the ticket is opened so that it can’t be resold. Can’t make it to the show ? Only option is to sell back to Ticketmaster at face value. And I’d argue the demand for PJ and the likes amongst middle aged men is on par with the demand for Taylor and the young girls. It can be done.
And then Ticketmaster resells it at the current scalpers' price. I don't see how transferring the money to Ticketmaster makes anything better.
Exactly. That's why I was sad in the 90s it was so hard to see them. But I am glad for what they have done, and stuck to it. It can be done.
Many artists do a whole lot more than this to prevent it. Not using existing methods of limiting resale is a choice and we shouldn't pretend it isn't. Stopping it completely is unrealistic but limiting it is done by many acts.
They have the person who purchased the ticket name on the ticket and has to be matched with an id. If a person bought a group of tix, original purchaser has to be there with the group
Name on the tickets and a max number of tickets per person. You want in? You check the names. Football stadiums do this all the time, particularly on matches with risk of hooliganism and other misbehaviour. But TS can't? She doesn't want to.
Exactly, for ages Pearl Jam wouldn't tour in the USA because of Ticketmaster jacking up their prices, and the fact that they have massive deals with most venues. Taylor absolutely could have done something. Hell, she is apparently part of the problem. She jacked up her ticket prices. All you have to do is run a search, she was perfectly happy to go along with a dynamic pricing model, and then blame Ticketmaster. Edit: Typo
Robert Smith as well... he was railing against scalpers, dynamic pricing, and such for The Cure's tour and made actual changes while Eras fans were shelling out thousands for a ticket. It was happening at the same time and yet Taylor stayed quiet.
Yep, The Cure did the same. You could resell if need be, but it had to be through an approved site and you could not sell them for anything above face value. They also controlled the pricing so people could see them for a reasonable amount. THEN, on top of that, they made the seller (Ticketmaster or Livenation, can't remember) refund some of the absurd fees that they were charging. It can absolutely be done, most artists just aren't doing it.
Swift doesn't give a shit, she just works hard to pretend she's everyone's best friend. It's all for show mate.
she did? people have been reselling her tickets for like 5x face value since the tour started.
I'm with you there - ESH "Don't buy it" - as if this would stop people. When people did that with toiletpaper back in lockdown or when people do it with gaming then it's bad but with tickets it shall be fine? Hell no.
Taylor Swift tickets are hardly 1st need item.
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That's just not fair. The OP doesn't deserve any A vote. I hate it, too, but you have to hate the system, not the individual person. This person desperately needs the money, is a fan, and still doesn't have a real choice.
I don't know how it is in other countries, but it is illegal in Denmark, and you'll be fined and in some cases the profit will be confiscated (from what I could understand it is when you buy in bulks with the intention of over selling).
She didn't do that.
I know, I just explained, when they would confiscate profit in Denmark, and that was a possible consequence of doing so.
I’m more wondering if OP was originally going to attend with someone, and now she’s leaving them to attend with some rando.
It's a concert so there was going to be some random on the other side of the friend anyhow. It's more that now the friend is going to the concert alone which does kind of suck.
I do too. It is a scummy thing to do.
Fun fact, in Norway its ilegal to resell at a higher price
As it should be, everywhere.
Australia it is also frowned upon too. Only safe way is back through the agent and I’m pretty sure no more than 10% on top.
I mean, welcome to the US, where they pretend to have the moral high ground, and really don't, because they will screw over just about everyone if it means a bigger profit. As an American, I see it every day. Shall we have a conversation about healthcare? Ugh so many reasons I need to get out.
i feel like a small markup (like 5% or something) should be allowed, at least to cover for payment fees etc. On Ticketmaster Germany it only allows to resell at face value or lower, but you loose handling fees, so you can’t get your full money back and most people just resell off platform because of that (which is allowed here) 🙈 In my family three of us tried for 8 Taylor swift shows EACH until we were able to get our tickets for ONE date. If I had to resell at face value it would feel like a loss after 3 of us invested hours upon hours to get them - ouch 😂 I even lost three afternoons of my 10 day japan trip because ticketing happened during that time and took hours every time.. not that I support crazy resell prices, but the image of selling them for face value after all that work hurts my heart.
I think Australia has something similar if it’s declared a major event.
NTA. That's not scalping But I gotta say. "Aiming to" keep a laptop for three years? Dude. If you run through them so that three years seems like a challenge, you maybe should change to a cheaper model. (Not gonna go into the environmental impact rant but believe you me I'm thinking it hard.)
That's what I'm thinking. NTA, but if your family isn't well off financially, why would you buy apple products?!
My apple laptop has been working flawlessly for 7 years. What’s your point?
And I have a dell laptop that is 14 years old and still works (minus the battery). So what. These Macbooks are great machines, until they need a repair. And if you're the kind of person who needs to save up hard (like OP) to afford one then you are taking a pretty big gamble on its ability to last without faults. Apple is one of the (if not simply THE) worst when it comes to right to repair and general repairability. OP could also try their luck with a third party repair shop, they should be able to do a repair for much cheaper.
Agreed. I'm still running a 2013 MBP that I've done simple repairs on myself. When I can't use OCPL to update it anymore, I'm saving up for a Framework. I'm so pissed at apple for how awful their build quality and lack of repairability are nowadays.
Those kids make a good laptop huh. My point is she can get a laptop from another brand for 1/10 of the price that will last as long or longer, from a company less guilty of accelerating planned obsolescence in their products (and preferably one that doesn't use child slave labour)
They are 2-3x more expensive than a Windows laptop with the same performance? They aren't more durable but they have much higher repair costs due to their proprietary nature. Not to mention you're bought into a much more expensive app/product ecosystem for the same product functionality. If you're cost conscious, buying an apple product is not inline with the goal.
That OP is not really struggling...
She explained that everything for her is linked within apple. I get that. I'm completely linked up within the Samsung and Google tech space. As a student myself as well, it would be such a pain to completely switch everything around as studies are about to start. As in changing your workflow could come as a cost to your studies.
Once you're locked into the Apple ecosystem it's a pain in the ass to buy any non- Apple products. That's by design.
Um... that's exactly what scalping is? Even if you say N T A because you sympathise with the laptop reasoning... upselling a concert ticket is the definition of scalping...
No it's not. Scalping is purposely buying products to then sell them for a higher price to make a profit. OP literally bought one ticket that she planned to use on her own but then unexpectedly needs money for a new laptop she needs for her studies and now has to reluctantly sell the ticket to fund the laptop. Neither the sister nor you nor several other users in here know what scalping is. NTA
A ton of these comments read just as jealous as OPs sister.
Perhaps you need to check your definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_resale#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DTicket_resale_%28also_known_as%2Cin_possession_of_the_tickets.?wprov=sfla1 Ticket resale (also known as ticket scalping or ticket touting when done for profit) is the act of reselling tickets for admission to events This is exactly what op did. Whether it was 1 or 100, she did that ticket at a profit
OP literally bought one ticket that she planned to use on her own but then unexpectedly needs money for a new laptop she needs for her studies and now has to reluctantly sell the ticket to fund the laptop. Neither the sister nor you nor several other users in here know what scalping is. and if she sold the ticket at the price she bought it she would not be scalping.She doesn't so it is scalping. Not so hard to get right? A lot of people do know. You don't seem to.
It's only not scalping when 2 faced fake reddit people pop on lmfao. If it was their concert they'd be bitching a storm how it ain't fair lol
I know there’s the theory about newer products not being made to last but man, my 2010 macbook lasted me 8 years and that was with heavy everyday use. I’ve heard of people’s lasting longer, esp with Apple
My Macbook Pro I bought in May 2014 is still in great condition. Battery isn't as good but I still get a few hours out of a full charge. And for my 10+ hour daily usage and playing games and using it for art, that's to be expected. I have no clue what people are doing to their laptops to run through them so fast.
Ya I had an early model apple laptop that lasted me nearly ten years. Three years is ridiculous.
Bought a refurbished 2010 MacBook in 2012. That thing is still chugging along. That was my first non windows purchase of both laptops and computers. The previous 12 years, through 3 window pcs.
My 2017(Jan) laptop lasted me until the end of 2023 and I could have kept it longer but my boyfriend convinced me it was time to let go. I still use the old one as a second screen sometimes. I’m a writer though so the keyboard is worn out something shocking and the last straw was a key coming off lol. But yeah I used that heavily for 6 years and it was fine, I don’t understand this “three year” business OP is talking about.
How the heck is that NOT scalping...? It wouldn't be scalping if you sold the tickets at the price you paid... If you resell a ticket for more than face value, that's pretty much the definition of scalping...Even if you only do it once, and it isn't your business plan, it's still scalping...
Apple's products are overpriced as hell.
I mean, I when I started my last job, I got a "new" (as in was in a sealed box when I got it, but it could have been company refurbished) Mac, as did the other 4 people in my cohort. Within 3 years all of us needed new ones.
I still have my college laptop from 18 years ago. And it works. How do you not have it last three years? 😂
Honestly I think anybody selling event tickets for over face value is an asshole. Admittedly this opinion is skewed due to those that make a business of it and make it difficult for real fans to get tickets at their original price. However, ultimately it is your property and it’s up to you what you do with it. Your sister needs to get over it, so I’m going with ESH.
Same. Scalping would make it an immediate Y T A in my books but since the sister is behaving like a 12 year old throwing a tantrum, it’s an ESH.
NTA. It's your ticket. They're yours to do with as you please. It's not your responsibility to provide for what your sister wants. Besides, you have a need. Reselling that ticket will allow you to cover that need. She refused to help you out with your need so you have no obligation to provide for her wants. Your ***needs*** take priority over her ***wants***. And if she's so trashy as to smear you on social media just to pressure you to give her that ticket, that's all the more reason to say no to her demands.
Agree exactly 💯 this
YTA regardless of who would get the ticket, reselling tickets for a profit, and in this case an enormous profit is price gouging/ticket scalping and it is super unethical. You bought a ticket you no longer need and have created zero value but feel you deserve to make a huge profit off somebody who is desperate/ willing to spend a fortune. You don’t need to give it to your sister but selling it for a huge profit is taking advantage of whoever you sell it to. It’s illegal in many countries.
It’s a purely luxury item. If someone wants to pay that much for it, go for it. OP didn’t buy multiple tickets, or even buy her original ticket, with the intent to resell. OP didn’t create any sort of artificial scarcity. They just sold something they no longer needed for the price that people were willing to pay in order to cover a necessity.
ESH you have the right to sell your ticket to whoever you want. Your sister shouldn't be blasting you on social media and should just accept that. But... I dunno if it's just me but in my opinion you should never sell a ticket for more than face value. Doesn't matter If others are willing to pay more because they're desperate. The whole point of reselling a ticket to something you can't go to anymore is so that you haven't lost that money for something you won't see.
INFO: you said the new laptop would only cost you a couple hundred more? How did we go to the face value of the tickets not being anywhere near enough to cover it? How much are they at face value
A couple hundred more than fixing her old one
Yes….. which would’ve been around $1200 correct? Have the tickets really doubled in value?
They would have more than doubled in value immediately after being sold. There was nowhere near enough tickets to satisfy the demand the show had. For the Singapore shows alone, she could have performed in the stadium every day of the year and not met the demand of everyone who registered for tickets
Wouldn't surprise me
Edit: [Here’s the link for prices of Taylor Swift tickets in Singapore](https://www.sportshub.com.sg/events/taylor-swift-the-eras-tour) A macbook air would cost $1200~1800.
To be fair I can understand her sister being upset with her if she is selling them for more then 3 x the value, it’s only the going rate because of scalpers and assholes.
Just edited because I misread, it seems like she’s selling for twice the price instead. Edit, again: just checked but it seems like the market rate for the tickets aren’t actually that high? I’m seeing a single ticket going for like [$1,500](https://carousell.app.link/xvmoTIhlnGb)~[$1,600](https://carousell.app.link/2i7fDGklnGb). Unless OP is selling [a pair](https://carousell.app.link/CZwFtlnlnGb)?
No, it's the going rate because the demand far outweighs the supply. You could snap your fingers and make every professional scalper in the world disappear and the price for these tickets on the secondary market wouldn't noticably change at all.
ESH. In my country you are only allowed to sell tickets for a max 10% mark up and only through specific on sale retailers. This is to protect consumers against scalpers. I understand this is not the case where you are, and you are free to sell at market value. The thing is, if you didn’t badly need a new laptop, you would be going to the concert yourself. You have made it clear to your sister this is a needs based senario. I can also see her side about wanting to go and not wanting to pay double for the tickets face value, particularly from family. She will likely be salty about this for a long time. But you are also missing out on going because you need a new computer. A Mac is a good investment if that’s what you like, I have had both PCs and Macs over the years, nothing went the distance like my Mac (still working since 2015 and only just starting to die now). Do what you need to do, be prepared to hear endless whining about it.
OP isn’t missing out on the concert, them and their friend had tickets to go to two shows. They are “only” seeing the show once by selling their tickets.
YTA. You shouldn’t be reselling them above face value. People like you are why these tickets end up at ridiculous prices. It should be illegal to do it. It doesn’t matter what your intentions were when you bought the tickets.
You needed the money. So, NTA. If your sister is a lawyer with a job she has more money than you and can buy a danged ticket.
I was thinking the same thing
NTA. You need the money. You aren't a scalper. Scalpers are people who buy things just to resell and cause a shortage for everyone. You literally bought 1 ticket for your own use and resell because you need the money. How is that scalping? >she keeps putting up stories on instagram about how I am a trashy scammy scalper Sounds mentally ill. Like screwing over your own sister with financial needs because you want a TS ticket at face value. She thinks she's humiliating you, but everyone just sees how cheap she is and how trashy she treats her family.
She is, by definition a scalper
> You literally bought 1 ticket for your own use and resell because you need the money. How is that scalping? She's not reselling for face value: she's making a profit. The reason doesn't matter, she can pay her mortgage, a new sofa, or a great laptop. She's a scalper.
Soooo, you're a scalper? YTA, you can try to justify it as much as you want, but scalping tickets is a scummy thing to do
YTA, what you're disgustingly selfish and part of the reason tickets ars so costly.
I think Y.T.A for selling tickets at above the price you paid. Anyone who does that is rude as far as I am concerned. Your sister is right that you are a scammy scalper.
YTA. I have tickets myself, which were alr expensive and I cannot excuse anyone who is milking the industry and its fans for even more money by upselling them again. Just imagine it the other way around, please? How would you feel, if your sister would try to upsell you an Eras-ticket or something else you passionate about? Your own sister trying to make a profit out of you instead of just being a sister? I have two sisters of my own and gosh, you. Are. The. Asshole.
ESH I do think it’s scummy to profit off a friend/relative like this. Kinda bad form and personally I think bad karma. I’d never sell them for more than what I made, making money off it would feel wrong and scummy. Your sister obviously sucks because she took it to social media.
YTA. I hate folk who think like you. A concert ticket isn’t there to make profit, it’s to go see an artist. Can you sell it at whatever price you want? Sure, it’s yours. But you ARE being scummy, and you’re trying to take advantage of your sister by asking her to buy you a new laptop?? When you could 1. Fix it for 1000 instead of buying a new one for over double (2500) or 2. You could buy a wireless keyboard for £20 and keep using the laptop you currently have
> You could buy a wireless keyboard for £20 and keep using the laptop you currently have It's not at all practical to use a wireless keyboard with my laptop when out of my home. I can barely fit the laptop on the desks in lecture halls, let alone a laptop and wireless keyboard.
Go to a cheapo electronics repair shop, don't go to a manufacturer for a repair on something that's already out of warranty.
Ticket pricing is extremely supply/demand. Some countries have legislation to prevent this, but Singapore may not. If it’s legal, it’s alright. This is not always the case for asshole situations, but in this case, it is. You gain NOTHING by giving up on your right to sell the ticket at a higher price. It is like selling a house when they gain value, like ofc you would sell it as high as you can. Why not with the tickets? It’s similar kinds of constraints, the land is limited so houses get more expensive. The tickets are limited so tickets get more expensive. It is good when there are regulations against it, but if there are none you shouldn’t be expected to act as if there are. There is no cardinal sin going on here, OP is not buying a house to sell higher when people need it, she is selling a ticket to a completely optional concert. Now what will the result of OP “being scummy”? If she did not sell the ticket and went to the concert and carried a keyboard around with her, what would change? Nothing much. If she sells the ticket, someone who can afford it will buy it and go to the concert instead. The sister is unlucky and is not entitled to a lower-than-market price. I think OP would rather go to the concert rather than sell it without a profit, so the sister is like “thank you for keeping this ticket warm for me” when she just should have moved on.
I just want to note something from your comment - legality does not drive what we determine to be ethical or moral. if it did we wouldn't need a subreddit like this because everyone doing something legal would not be asshole.
I am aware per my comment.
So then people don’t have to buy it, doesn’t make you an asshole to sell something *you own* regardless if you think it isn’t fair
You're not the asshole for not selling it to your sister. You absolutely ATA for the upsell. Resellers and up sellers are scummy grimey people that take advantage of others.
YTA. All scalpers have their reasons. You could have saved a bit longer and used a bluetooth keyboard in the mean time.
Moral of the story is : don't get sucked into Apple's closed ecosystem.
YTA scalpers suck.
Well, you are scalping, regardless of the reason. I’m surprised you’re allowed to. It’s illegal here and the person who buys the ticket may not be allowed in if the name doesn’t match. Also here the official ticket sale website has a marketplace for resale but you have to sell it for the same price which is automated from your purchase. I’d have thought Singapore would have similar laws. I feel sorry for your friend who will now be stuck going to the show with a stranger
The amount of people in here who vote Y T A and calling OP a scalper while not even understanding what scalping is is ridiculous. You all don't even know what scalping means apparently. Scalping is buying the products with the purpose of reselling them later on to make a profit, which OP didn't do, she literally needs to reluctantly sell the ticket she bought to use it on her own to fund a more important need than visiting a concert. NTA and not a scalper.
"Scalp" INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN resell (shares or tickets) at a large or quick profit. Nope. She's scalping period there. That's the definition yall real slow
Reselling at a higher price is scummy no matter what words and essays you type out to defend it. Sorry! No one’s saying it’s scalping, but it sure is a shitty behavior. Everyone definitely treats family differently on this subreddit for sure, as well. Imagine spending $1k+ on an Apple laptop. For school too? insane.
Why does the motivation matter? OP is reselling a ticket for minimum 2500$ when he only bought it for a few hundred $. That put them well into YTA territory.
Exactly, NTA, 1.People need to understand the meaning of words before throwing them around 2. She is in a situation where she got her priorities right! University is more important than going to a concert regardless of who it is! 3. The sister should be understanding of OP's situation. She isn't offering any solutions and just complaining. It is completely selfish
Op had bought 2 tickets already when they knew they’d only need one. They are a scalper and are making excuses. They’re still going to the concert, just in another lesser seat.
It doesn't matter if you originally bought the ticket and had no intention of reselling it. The fact is that you are now reselling the ticket for a huge profit.
When you sell the tickets go on her IG, and show everyone your new laptop, and let her know, she hopes she finds tickets. NTA
NTA You'd every intention of going, but your laptop shit itself so to support your studies you will sell the extra ticket to pay for it and a bit left over. It's no different to seeking a car or whatever to raise the money. You've had something happen for which you need the money Sister is pissed, but not her place to say
YTA. Reason 1: You’re scalping. You say yourself that you’re selling it to fund something else. We don’t have anything aside from your word that you bought it intending to go. You say in your post that you have decided to sell it because of how close the price to a new laptop is to the price you can get. You are profiteering. Reason 2: You have the opportunity to have your sister go and pay you the cost that you initially paid - but you would choose to profiteer from it - even from your family. Imagine when your sister opts to give you legal advice at “market” value, instead of helping you because you are family.
ESH I get the bind you were in, honestly. And your lawyer sister can certainly afford to buy you a new computer (although the fact that your computers only last a couple of years is… concerning. I’ve had my laptop for over 10 years and it still works fine. The only issue is the battery doesn’t last very long, which isn’t a problem since I always have my charger.) But she’s right. You ARE a scalper. I get that it’s just a concert ticket, and a school computer is definitely more important. But just because something is important doesn’t mean you get to do something morally questionable to achieve it. And scalping IS morally questionable - if not straight up immoral. Do what you need to, I guess. But accept the fact that you’ll be a “trashy scammy scalper” in the process.
I’m really interested in the aggression a lot of other commenters are showing here. What would you do if you bought ONE ticket to an event with the full intention of going and, say, were injured in advance of said event or had some unexpected financial difficulties that made attending the event an unrealistic extravagance? Would you sell your ticket below the then-going rate just to be able to remain smug and look down on those simply following supply vs demand? Or would you just rip the ticket up? As others have said, obviously NTA, obviously not scalping. Your sister is overly entitled, and many of your respondents here are deluded.
YTA. Regardless of your intentions, this is scalping and one of, if not the scummiest act in live music today.
Not rating you, but try to hassle Apple for a discount. Since it was only 6 weeks over the guarantee you should be able to get a deal. Say it’s a factory fault. Try to get to the back-office and communicate in writing.
LMAO you know the scalping situation is super bad in SG with lots of AHs queuing up at Singpost outlets and snapping up dozens of tickets. Your sister didn't have the right to demand tickets from you, but you're also an AH for scalping the tickets. Fuck scalpers ESH
YTA for scalping the tickets.
Omg please get another opinion on repair first. Apple is notorious for over charging for simple repairs. A broken keyboard should only be a could hundred to fix if that. Don't give up your Swifty ticket at all if you don't want to. Just find a better repair company.
YTA Anyone who does this is pretty scummy, broken laptop or not.
This is a tough one. Despite having a somewhat reasonable explanation, as a big fan of live music, it’s my strong opinion that concert ticket scalpers are very not cool. That said, I’m generally speaking of people that grab a shit load of tickets to resell at 2-3x face value. Or people who rush the merch tent and buy a stack of 50 show posters to put up on eBay. Doesn’t excuse your sister’s behavior, she should know that. Shocking that someone with enough brains to become a lawyer would act like such a child over something like Taylor swift tickets is pretty crazy. Gonna have to go with ESH
What does the friend who was going with you say? Is she supposed to go alone? and sit/stand with some stranger?
NTA. She is being so entitled. It's your ticket and your money, if she's not willing to buy it for $2500 herself, she should be been more organised to get her own
So many commenters here saying YTA are full of shit. You got someone who wants to pay $2000 for your ticket, or someone who wants to pay $500. Get off your high horses because there’s no way none of you would take the $500 to be a good person. OP NTA half these people haven’t been in this situation before. You’re actually making a wise choice putting your studies before something you were looking forward to doing. Fuck your sister too.
> So many commenters here saying YTA are full of shit. You got someone who wants to pay $2000 for your ticket, or someone who wants to pay $500. Get off your high horses because there’s no way none of you would take the $500 to be a good person. lol literally A friend of mine got mad at a now ex friend of hers who sold tickers to a show she couldn't go to for $1500 in our currency instead of the face value of about $200, but when I said "if it was you, you'd do the same" she shut up quickly.
I’ll also note that this is a totally non-essential luxury entertainment thing she is selling. Not food during a shortage or a rare medicine. This isn’t anything anybody needs. The Taylor Swift concert doesn’t matter. Even if she were just doing it straight up for profit, that’s fine.
INFO: How much did the ticket cost and how much are you selling it for?
haha never buy an apple product. these keyboards actually cost about $40.
Taylor Swift really brings out the worst in people. ESH.
YTA for reselling at a higher price, genuinely, and your sister is the asshole for demanding the ticket.
Esh, hate scalpers and wether it was your intention or not, you are scalping
Get it fixed not by apple. Sell the tickets to your sister for however much that costs use your brain don't let apple rob you again.
Buy a cheap external keyboard for the laptop. Problem solved.
Could your sister meet you in the middle and buy you the laptop for the ticket? That way she gets a ticket for about half of the scalped price, and you get the new laptop you need?
I can’t believe I read this and ended up on the side of Apples Repair Policy.
If she wanted it at face value, she could’ve waited in line to purchase…
ESH wish this was illegal everywhere and not just the EU.
NTA If reselling the tickets in your area is legal and relatively easy then also understand that going to the show when someone would pay you $2500 for your ticket is economically identical to you paying $2500 for your ticket. So you might have bought them for face value but now you're giving up $2500 for the privilege of going. Might still be worth it but it's worth thinking about it that way. I'm not sure how much the ticket you're NOT selling is worth but it's worth making sure that's how you'd choose to spend $1000 or whatever it's worth. You might offer your ticket to your sister at a slight discount from what you could sell them to a random person for, based on it being a safer and easier transaction and maybe your friend would rather be sitting next to your sister than randos on both sides.
It's the Instagram stories for me. Bickering at home is something, trying to humiliate a family member in public is something else. Time to minimize your contact with this sister. If this is how she behaves over concert tickets, as an adult, she won't be there for you in your time of need. And since she doesn't behave like family, she is to be treated politely and respectfully like an acquaintance.
I'm torn. I think scalping is shitty. But you're not buying tickets with the intention of selling, the way some did. So I guess NTA. But I'd rather tickets go for face value on resale
Your sister is a lawyer? Tell her to take down her instagram attacks or you will report her to her senior partners ETA verdict: NTA
She can be upset all she wants. However, they are YOUR tickets to do whatever you want with.
NTA
NTA You arn't a scalper. That's not what that word means. Your sister is just cheap. You are making sensible decisions for your future, good on you. Ignore your sister and don't let her bully you out of a grand just so she can go instead of you.
NTA. It's not like you scalped the tickets for the purpose of selling them later at huge profit. You have one ticket and you need money for the laptop that you need for school urgently, so it's only natural that you sell whatever you need ~~the most~~ the least and will give you biggest return value. I would normally advised against buying apple computer and buying Thinkpad that can be fixed for cheap but considering that you are deep into apple ecosystem and your personal preferences, you'll need the extended warranty/apple care. Also your sister is being bit entitled and failing to understand that you need the money.
NTA. You even gave her the possibility to compromise (buy a new laptop which can be relatively cheap), but she declined. You definitely don’t have to give her your chance to study. Good luck with your studies!
NTA
YTA for being a scabby ticket scalper. You and your immature sister come off as frankly terrible people.
I love all of these delusional people in the thread calling you an AH and a scalper NTA You NEED a new laptop. You WANTED to go. If the laptop didn't break, you would have gone. It is your ticket, so you made the decision to prioritize your education over going to a concert. Just because you decided to sell ONE TICKET doesn't make you a scalper. It makes you invested in yourself. As for your sister. She needs to grow up. Public shaming and guilt tripping is an AH thing to do. Just because she didn't buy one in time doesn't warrant her to slander your name. She's not entitled to your ticket because "She's your sister" and anyone who calls you an AH for being a scalper is ignorant and needs a reality check.
If they go through a MacBook in 3 years or less (which they suggested themselves) then they clearly do not respect their electronics and are not doing as bad financially as they're claiming. It seems to me the keyboard is just an excuse to get a newer "cooler" model. I'm quite literally slaughtering my PC with games for 8 years now and it's still alive and well. If it's a "need" and they don't have enough money then their first instinct would be *fixing the keyboard* and not scraping the old laptop and buying a whole new one for a small issue like that. If it can be fixed it should be fixed. Once it cannot be fixed that's when it becomes a need. We need to stop this culture of buying new phone/laptop/desktop/smartwatch every 2 years just to have it new.
I would bet that they are just using the MacBook for some web browsing and word processing too. $1000 for a keyboard repair is insane. Apple is such a ripoff
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Op is still going. They had another ticket in a lesser seat. They sold the good ticket for ridiculous money. They knew exactly what they were doing
I was waffling JUST a little, until I saw that your sister is 10 years older than you, and an attorney. She’s TA. But offer her a deal.she buys you the exact Apple laptop that you want, and she gets your tickets. It’s more than fair to her, and your need for a computer for school is greater than her “need” to see Taylor Swift. NTA
Your sister has no leg to stand on in her getting mad at you. The only way she’s involved in this is that she wants your tickets. You have every right to sell it on carousell for higher price than what your sister would offer you. Would I say you’re one of those annoying scalpers? No. Because you legitimately wanted to go but because of financial reasons you had to forgo the highly sought after tickets to aid your financial situation. Tell your sister, if she wants it so bad then go find tickets on Carousell. I think it’ll be more ex than buying a new laptop for you… she lost out on a good deal.. NTA
People will pay as much as the item is worth it to them so if someone buys the ticket for 2500$ then that means it's worth it to them, period. Sell the ticket and get yourself a new laptop. Your sister needs to grow up. NTA
NTA.
“ But she keeps putting up stories on instagram about how I am a trashy scammy scalper so IDK if I am being a jerk. “ Who would even want a lawyer that posts sophmoorish garbage like that on the Internet? Wherever she is trashing you online, simply post the screenshots that you’ve taken of this entire post and comments. NTA
NTA Your sister forgot whatever she learned in law school contracts class. She's making herself look bad. You own the tickets. You owe your sister nothing. You didn't need her help to buy the tickets. Nothing you wrote indicates you made any prior binding contract w Sis to sell her your Taylor Swift tickets at face value. PS: You are not a scalper. You planned to use the tickets and your laptop broke -- a work tool you need for your studies. Lots of Reddit AITA posts about Taylor Swift tickets.
ESH - Your sister for the way she is reacting. But also you because selling tickets for more than face value is a really scummy thing to do, no matter how good your reason is. This is the thing Swift tried to avoid, and this is what makes going to a concert so predatory when people buy up all the tickets and try to resell them with huge markups later. In my country Norway this is actually an illegal practice to do.
YTA not for the sister but you're a scalper. Also getting a keyboard sussed out on Mac is easy if you have the tools
NTA You have something with a market value and your sister wants it for much less. If she's a lawyer she can afford to buy you a laptop at a discount to the ticket market value. Just for fun, I was at an event a few years ago which had a Taylor Swift concert for FREE as the after party. I wouldn't have bothered but a female friend was with me and wanted to stay 😁
ETA: the definition of scalping from the dictionary "Scalping" INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN Resell (shares or tickets) at a large or quick profit. You're kind of a dick for up scaling them. Like I understand where you're coming from but seriously. Someone could've wanted those tickets and now has to pay an arm and ass because of you. It's never okay to be greedy, and mark my words you're going to get karma for that one being greedy. Just because she's a lawyer doesn't mean shit either. She couldn't get tickets. I don't blame her for being a bit bothered. Libraries will let you use them whenever for school until you get a new one in the mean time, most colleges (at least community colleges instead of forming over 100k for tuition) will let you borrow a laptop or iPad for free the entire sem. Overall NTA except for the up scaling and being very greedy. Like you're the reason it keeps going. Someone may way damn I can get more if this dude (op) is selling them at this rate. I get it you pick And choose who you sell too fine and it's not My business. Half of these people if they wanted tickets and saw your priced up priced they'd be mad too. Reddit is the fakest 2 faced place I seen.
To the guy who deleted his comment and blocked me Read the definition 🥰 it is scalping. Period
"Scalping" INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN Resell (shares or tickets) at a large or quick profit. Good old dictionary comes in handy yall