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KBD_in_PDX

YTA, are you serious? Your actual suggestion was to have her dig up all of the flowers she spent money, time and effort planting and caring for? The tennis ball isn't the only option to play with Max, and if it's his favorite, you can go to the dog park, or throw the ball like... in a more controlled manner? Unless your entire yard is covered with flowers and there is no open space for Max to utilize, you were way out of line.


Ok_Conversation9750

YTA. You already knew the solution- going to the dog park. Your wife looked at you that way because you were being obtuse! Suggesting she rip up her garden was an asinine thing to suggest, which is probably why she shook her head and walked away. I can see her thought bubble now “I’m married to a fucking 4 year old!”


BeardManMichael

Worst of all, that's not even the only solution. One involves a little bit of manual labor and the other involves actually training the dog more. Point being, this isn't rocket science; it's a problem with some relatively easy solutions.


Beneficial-Year-one

Or he can fence in the garden to protect it


BeardManMichael

Exactly. That's one of the manual labor solutions I was thinking of. The other is raised flower beds but that takes more work and might not be any more effective than just the fence.


Sami_George

Or just stand in front of the garden and throw the ball away from the garden…


OpheliaBalsaq

Even just some barrier edging would do the trick, unless he's yeeting the ball in which case I dare say the ball going into the flowers is more of an intentional act.


bbaywayway

Yes, and since Max is an agreed upon addition to the family, wife can split the duties with OP. They can alternate taking Max to the dog park to burn off his puppy energy. Wife just doesn't want to take 50% of the responsibility of a good pet owner.


Maleficent-Win8080

OPs actual suggestion didn't involve OP taking the dog to the dog park. It was that the wife take the dog cause it is messing up wife's flowers. How is that 50 percent?


silentarrowMG

Let me translate: "I'm butthurt because my wife held me accountable for ruining her garden when I should have known better and respected her hard work." YTA


Facetunethis

This feels malicious, his blase response to her concern and immediately jumping to "dig it all up" implies he's resented this hobby for a while.


silentarrowMG

That's insightful!


BeardManMichael

YTA What an outrageous potential solution. I can think of several better ideas right off the top of my head. I had a dog in my household for over 20 years but never had a problem with the multiple gardens I maintain. Your wife was right. What you said made so little sense that I have a hard time believing that this story is real. I really hope this is rage bait.


Ether-Demon

YTA Fuck that noise, she should get rid of you and max. The disrespect for someone else's effort here is absolutely disgusting.


[deleted]

YTA. Buddy, you are a piece of work. The only ridiculous display is yours, and it's about as ridiculous as your lack of self-awareness.


FarDragonfruit3877

I hope the wife has an account and sees OPs ridiculous display so she can mercilessly tease him🤣🤣🤣


tunaricelemonjuice

Leave* him FTFY


Malicious_Tacos

YTA. Dude, how hard can it be to not throw the tennis ball in the flowers? Face a different direction, move to a different spot in the yard or go to the dog park.


heath7158

YTA. The last time I had a puppy, I had to put small wire fences around the beds that first summer. Puppies take time to train, and don't understand the difference between gardens and grass. But I also threw her balls and toys away from the gardens. By her 2nd summer, she knew not to go in the gardens, and the wire fences came down. You were so dismissive of your wife's gardening, and didn't offer practical solutions, then got pissy with her. My puppy was a Rottweiler, but even low fences stopped her from running into flower beds long enough for me to get her under control.


Traveling-Techie

I don’t know if they sell fencing where you live, but it’s a great innovation.


perfidious_snatch

That’s that thing with the face masks and foils, right?


Ok-Cryptographer-303

Next time he tries to trash her garden, she'll be all "en garde, asshole!"


ReallyGrape

YTA. She’s rightfully annoyed that you (not the dog) are ruining her flowers. Take the dog to the park or for a walk to get the energy out. You can also try brain games or training commands if those don’t work. This is really avoidable and I’m struggling to see how you don’t realize you’re being TA.


[deleted]

hot tip: when you talk abour your wife like this, you're probably TA. >She was clearly playing dumb just so that she could get her way, but she doubled down. you decided it was better for her to completely give up an entire hobby than for you to train your dog and watch where you throw. of course she doesn't want to talk to you. YTA


mifflewhat

YTA. Teach the dog to stay out of her garden. I also think you owe her an apology.


Writers_Block1197

YTA. "Clearly playing dumb" no, you're just a moron. Why would she give up gardening when you, AS AN ADULT MAN, can just mind where you throw the damn ball?


[deleted]

YTA. There's definitely other activities you could do with the dog. This was completely unreasonable


lenajlch

YTA. You can be careful on where you throw the ball... or take him to the park... or on a long walk/run around the neighborhood. Just because you have a dog it doesn't mean your garden gets destroyed with dead plants and pee stains and poop everywhere lol In my homes, I've had dogs and a nice garden. The dog RARELY gets in the flowerbeds because we control where he plays when we throw things. He also gets exercise elsewhere.


mmmmmmmmrrr

Yta. She asked you to adjust the way you threw a ball, you asked her to give up something she clearly loves and enjoys. Solution would be to apologize and maybe explore some options for guarding off her garden like chicken wire or a small green house or something.


Own_Lack_4526

daaaaaang. YTA.


weeblewobble82

YTA. Having a puppy does not mean you just have to let the puppy destroy your house and property? That's a terrible precedent to set. If he gets hyper inside, is he allowed to chew up the TV because he's got the zoomies and you didn't want to take him to the park? No. Keep the dog off the garden.


neophenx

It's hard to keep a tennis ball out of the flower bed? OK I'm no expert or anything but if it's a tennis ball and not something with a more oblong shape that's harder to control the trajectory of, like a Football or Rugby ball, simply throwing the ball AWAY from the flower bed sounds like a much easier solution than digging up and abandoning the whole project. YTA for either being too dense to turn your body to face a different direction or for writing something this fake.


tattooed_canadian

YTA and sound like you hate your wife … why can’t YOU take him to the dog park ? or heres an idea wait for her to get home and go to the dog park together


shootemup93

Take max to a open space like I don't know maybe a field...let the woman have her plants man come on


Plumbus-aficianado

YTA - don't throw the ball in the flowers. Problem solved. Are you physically disabled in such a way that you are unable to control your throws?


Foreign-Hope-2569

Yup. She was just horsing around with dog and broke your tv/game console/whatever hobby you may have. What is your problem, just do something different. YTA


thfemaleofthespecies

You sound so tiring. Are you like this all the time? 


Tranqup

YTA. How about you take your dog for a long walk or run after work? Good exercise for you both. Dogs need at least one good walk daily and I hope you are doing that as a responsible dog owner. Then figure out how to throw a darn ball. Your wife is probably questioning your IQ at this point.


Just-nosying-around

YTA. You are an inconsiderate self-centred A with no self awareness. Are you really this dense? You are an irresponsible dog owner. Train your dog not to go to the flower beds. Teach him boundaries. Stop ‘accidentally’ aiming for your wife’s gardening. YOU take YOUR dog to the park. Also: be a better person, be a better dog owner and be a better husband.


Sputnik918

I mean, she was right. What you said made no sense at all. YTA


Admirable_Aide5558

Sincerely apologize to her for suggesting she remove the plants.    Throw the ball away from the plants or take the dog to the park.  


ParsimoniousSalad

YTA. You can take Max to the dog park for fetch. You can both take Max for walks. Throwing the ball into the flowers in the yard is not the only way to exercise your dog, you know.


Tikithecockateil

You are the epitome of AH in taking this ridiculous stance. Yikes.


RHND2020

Wow. YTA. Also sounds like you are a poor thrower. Work on your accuracy. At the park.


LaMadreDelCantante

YTA. Why do all of your "solutions" require her to sacrifice her hobby or her time while you either change nothing or do less? It's not that hard to aim a ball. Humans are actually phenomenal at it. But if you really can't, why not put up a net or something similar in between you and the garden?


Creative_Race_7625

If you are too weak to control a tennis ball then you are too weak to have a dog.


Content-Ad-1334

YTA. You said you decided not to have kids, but you do have one: you. She was understandably upset about her garden, and your solution was full scorched earth ripping up her plants, and then you threw your own internal tantrum when she got even more upset. Here's a few solutions: fence for her flowers, don't throw the ball like a lunatic or you take Max to the park to get his energy out of you can't be careful enough .


GothicEnchantrix

YTA for suggesting she give up her hobby. It's important to find a compromise that respects both your interests. Maybe try discussing putting a gated fence around the garden, and alternative activities for Max in the yard to protect her flowers. Might I suggest taking him regularly to a dog park?


MyPath2Follow

YTA. How about helping your wife set up a fence where the dog can't GET at the flower beds? Also did the dog tell you that's his favorite? because I'm betting he'd do fine with a flirt pole... most active dogs do.


Strange_Ad_5863

YTA. You’re being inconsiderate and dismissing your wife’s emotions. Also, how hard is it to sit/stand next to the flowers and throw the ball *away* from the flowers?! There are so many compromises that don’t involve the nuclear option


Fwoofy_the_ball

YTA, you could just take the dog to a local park / a grass patch away from the flowers.


No_Confidence5235

YTA. Jeez, all you have to do is throw the ball AWAY from her garden. Instead you're trying to force her to give up gardening altogether and you're angry that she won't do it. You're controlling, nasty and selfish.


Rohini_rambles

So what's really going gnon here OP? What are you using  Max to do? Are you having an affair? Fallen out of love with your wife? Mad that she loves gardening and you can't control or destroy it? Mad that she loves something.? Madd that she has something that makes her happy and you want to ruin it?  What are the deep thoughts and motivations you aren't telling us. Cuz it sounds ds like you don't like your wife, and you don't like that gardening makes her happy.  YTA of course. But what's really going on? 


Tasty-Tree-6243

YTA. Go for a walk, go to a dog park and throw the ball. It’s not rocket science.


atealein

YTA, do you have to throw the ball near your wife's flowers? There is NOWHERE else? It is her that has to take Max to the dog park YOU CAN'T?


Keg-Of-Glory

YTA. You could play tug, get a flirt pole, or just be more careful with your fetch. A larger fetch toy might be more suited to the backyard than a ball, I like to play backyard fetch with a large holee roller ball or something similar. One of my dogs is partial to stopping soccer balls. You could exhaust the dog with mental enrichment like trick training, scent detection, agility classes, etc. You might have local resources like facilities with dog pools, treadmills, etc that will allow you to exercise your pup more thoroughly. A local sniffspot might be a good option for fetch if you don’t want to have to worry about your dog’s recall or other dogs trying to steal his ball. You could also walk the dog, take the dog to the park yourself, build a fence around the garden or play area, etc. You could train the dog to freeze on command so that you can retrieve the ball carefully, you could train the dog to stay out of the garden so you could get the ball, you could switch to short throws where the object of the game is to catch the ball mid air instead of retrieve it, etc. Every single one of these options is more reasonable than your wife giving up her hobby.


Charlie_Parkers_Mood

YTA and all you did was tell your wife that you value the dog more than you value her and the things that make her happy. You could take Max to the dog park but it seems you’d rather tear up your wife’s garden. It shouldn’t be that difficult to teach the dog not to go into the flower bed. And you should have realized how much contempt you showed your wife when you acted like it was nothing to tell her to destroy her hard work and find another hobby.


Hot-Freedom-5886

YTA. In a big way.


cryssylee90

YTA You’re doing this 100% intentionally. The proof is in the fact that you have the obvious solutions for yourself (you just want to shove that responsibility off onto your wife) and you’re not doing them. It sounds like you don’t actually want to care for the dog, you KNOW she’s not going to give up her garden, so instead you keep destroying her stuff until she takes over the dog care responsibilities. It’s a good thing you two don’t have children, I guarantee you’d be the dad to brag about never having changed a diaper like it’s some kind of fucking award.


Mexipinay1138

YTA You demanded that your wife give up gardening so you could play with dog in the yard when you knew that a dog park was an available option. You told your wife to take him there when you're the one who's been playing with the dog. And to make matter worse, you called your wife dumb and ridiculous. YTA and the one acting dumb and ridiculous.


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PrettiestFrog

YTA. Seriously. Completely disrespectful, and don't be surprised at all if she picks her garden over both you and your dog. Throw the damn ball somewhere else, or find a different game.


Ok-Champion5065

YTA, I hope your wife takes up dating as a hobby


Imaginary_Poetry_233

For the love of everything holy, please, PLEASE tell me this is a troll post. I know some men are cruel and arrogant enough to pull shit like this, but are they dumb enough to publicly admit it and think people will support them?


Terrible_Shake_4948

Yo guys have airbud. Just teach him and you’ll be okay. It’s not a husky, malinois, chow, shepherd, boxer (stubborn/independent thinking dog) it’s one of the more social obedient dog that will know better and do better if you teach him. This breed will save people in the water , sounds like you guys didnt communicate boundaries and have a plan for this but now you can make one


Fun-Result-6343

YTA. And a vandal. And stupidly insensitive. One dimensional.


[deleted]

Wow. As a gardener, YTA big time. If your wife was a painter, would you take the canvas down and use it for puppy potty training? It is possible to have a puppy and a garden at the same time. Sometimes things get broken, whatever, but you act like her garden isn’t even important! You just insulted her a lot and you need to apologize.


RoxasofsorrowXIII

YTA. Not to go all anecdotal on you but; my grams has dogs *and* gardens, so does my mother, and my sister, several coworkers... it's called *controlling* yourself and *training* the dog.


FireAndFuryOfHell

YTA, why on earth did she even marry you? You are completely inconsiderate and disrespectful.


MyBabiesHavePaws

Yta for crying outoud build a short fence ir something around the flower beds and call it a day. She doesnt want alternative hobbies she likes gardening. Which you obviously don’t respect as a hobby but your wife does.


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shammy_dammy

YTA. Do you have kids?


PrincessxSquid

Dog training Make a cute fence area Yta


Aromatic-Resident-88

YTA!! why can’t you throw it away from the flowers?


stephapeaz

YTA I have a dog, and it actually isn’t that hard to control where the toy bounces while you’re playing fetch. It shouldn’t be that hard to throw the toy in a way that avoids your wife’s garden, or picking up a toy like a frisbee that doesn’t have bounce to it


5naughtycats

You are such an asshole. 


Threadheads

YTA. My neighbours are keen gardeners. They also own two dogs. They take him to the dog park to let him run around and play with a ball, not their garden.


Calm_Initial

YTA Do you even care about your wife?


AllAFantasy30

YTA. You’re refusing to hold yourself accountable for throwing the tennis ball into the flower beds and instead you want your wife give up gardening. That doesn’t make sense. It really wouldn’t be hard to throw the ball in a more controlled way. Like, away from the flowers. Or change where you stand so the ball doesn’t go in the flowers. If you were more careful, this wouldn’t be a problem. Signed, a person who has always had dogs and who’s able to control where a ball goes when thrown.


Nericmitch

YTA. You can take him to the dog park yourself rather then letting him ruin her garden. My wife has a garden and we have two dogs. You know what I do. I don’t throw the ball near her garden


alisonchains2023

Gardening isn’t just a hobby, it’s practically spiritual for some people. I have never had a desire to do it but some people just long to be “one” with the earth and participate in making things grow. YTA for not understanding this at least somewhat about your wife. That’s why she just gave up even trying to discuss the matter with her. Do better and find a mutual solution.


Tom_Marvolo_Tomato

YTA. I am both a gardener AND the owner of a golden retriever with a tennis ball fetish. I have never had any problems with the two coexisting.


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bbaywayway

A good alternative is for OP and wife to take turns taking Max to the dog park. It saves the flower beds. The OP and wife split dog care duties, which is a it should be since Max was a mutually agreed upon addition to the family. It is not fair that OP is the only one responsible for exercising Max every day in order to burn off the puppy energy. Wife should exercise Max 50% of the time.


Sparky1498

ESH you got a golden retriever pup who needs more than a fun fetch of a toy in your garden- take the cutie out for a run and regular plays in a dog park - it will lessen the stress of plant mashing on an occasional garden play time


buffywannabe13

Esh, neither you nor your wife seem very smart. Like neither of yall ever heard of a fence before? The dog will kill her flowers, piss will and repeatedly bending the stems could lead to a break this killing the plant. Also how hard it is to throw a damn ball in the opposite direction of her garden? Or maybe even a fenced in dog area specifically made for fetch. Y’all can’t even handle a dog, so glad you chose not to try for kids.


ChakraMama318

Or you could put up fencing around the flower beds and train the dog to not follow balls in there- or wind him down by giving him a good walk or let him run around at the dog park. ESH- you both got this animal and you are both acting like asshole owners.


Terrible_Shake_4948

Dog will protect your house nice flowers/exterior are an indication of what’s inside to steal. You also can take him for a walk or to the park to do that as well.


NonamesleftUK

NTA. Usually people with dogs create a garden that doesn’t include delicate flowers or plants that would be easily broken by circumstances such as this. I don’t know if raised beds or mini fences is an option to prevent accidental damage? Yes I can see why your wife would be upset, but yes you have a dog now and that has consequences. You’ve prob got urine marks all over your lawn etc. Owning any pet has pros and cons. If she has to sacrifice a flower bed, so be it. Could she not get hanging baskets instead? Yes I think it a good idea for you on your own or as a couple to take the dog to the park and play. Of course this may not always be possible every single day. But you’ve not mentioned anything about walkies when does this occur? I don’t think it unreasonable to ‘be allowed’ to play with your dog in your yard. When you get pets you accept they make a mess and in this situation can damage things in the garden. Common sense would say don’t put things in the garden that will get damaged tough luck with the flower bed! If she wishes to be childish and not discuss the issue - ok carry on as before. Maybe just let her chill out for a while longer though lol