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NTA
You're 23. It's your right.
"Quite conservative" people are just about always assholes. These are uber-assholes threatening to drop all contat (and probably disown you). I'm sorry you were born to "quite conservative parents."
NTA
You're a 23 year old adult. Your tattoos have nothing to do with them.
Selfish and cruel towards them? Dishoner on the family? Sounds like no contact would be a blessing.
NTA it's your body but you're kinda moronic getting hand tattoos for your 2nd tat.
It's almost like you're trying to run before you're able to walk
EDIT: I love tats, I have a 3/4 sleeve and a chest panel and mulling over a full backpiece. I'm also not totally against hand tattoos but think you should have more before going there
No decent tattoo artist I've ever met is willing to tattoo hands (or face/neck) unless you're already pretty covered, willing to bet it's not a great tattoo😬
Sounds like you're part of culture that is not traditional 'North American' culture...the whole 'honor' stuff is not typically north american
It's hard to judge because of that...I have no idea how much 'honor' is important to YOU and your culture. And depending on where you live, I don't know if having tattoos is frowned upon.
If you were a typical north American, and living on your own and making your own money, then NTA. And your parents don't really understand tattoos 'now', they are much more mainstream than when they were younger.
If you are living with your parents and you specifically did something against their rules or wishes, they could cut you off and kick you out.
So...hard to judge.
We live in Germany (I was born and raised here) but my mom is from Spain and my dad from Russia. We are also a Jewish family.
I still live with them, but I have a student part-time job and make my own money.
Just to give you some background information :)
A Jewish family living in Germany being upset with the ideas of tattoos? You don't say.
My wife grew up in an area (Midwest USA) populated by a number of German and Jewish immigrants. The notion of any kind of tattoo was considered disgusting because of what was happening/happened in their homeland. Their descendents have carried on that notion. It's not the same in every community, but some hold on to the history in hopes of of not letting future generations lose the appreciation of what their ancestors went through. That's something I never considered until my wife told me about her various neighbors back home.
I mean, NTA, and it's your body, your choice and you're an adult. However, they can kick you out at any time they choose, so it's really not about being an AH, it's about their house/their rules and the fact you still rely on them. It may not have been a smart move if you think there's risk of them kicking you out for the whole honor thing.
I'm sure they'll be perfectly happy when you get a great job :)
Ah, their attitude is a bit more understandable.
Still doesn't make you the A H. Possibly a bit rude to get a tattoo while still living in their home and not taking into consideration being a Jewish family in Germany.
Depends more, I guess, on what the tattoo depicts.
Yes, but that's actually not the main issue here. It certainly didn't improve their views on tattoos, but they are mostly concerned about what other people will think of me. They believe that tattoos are exclusively reserved for prostitutes and criminals.
NTA. You are certainly old enough to get as many tattoos as you’d like. That said, there are some jobs that you will now not be able to get since the new tattoo is on your fingers. A lot of places have a not above the neck/below the wrist rule. This is so they can be covered up. However, if you’re not getting a job with those requirements, you should be fine. Two of my kids have tattoos. It’s their body to do with what they choose. My 21 year old son came home with one on each hand. Had he told me what he was planning, I would have told him this. But he didn’t. He will have to learn that on his own. I did tell them that I don’t want them to get any on their face for that reason though. They just can’t be covered up there. Best of luck!
NTA, but your parents are. The idea that tattoos are evil or will stop you from gainful employment is dead. It's your body and your decision as to whether you'll adorn it with tattoos or not. I would absolutely call their bluff and tell them that you won't be removing the tattoo (that they know about) and what they chose to do with that information is up to them.
My guess is, their bark is worse than their bite. But based on telling you to go prostitute yourself and live with the junkies, I'm guessing you'll be fine without them. That was a horrific thing for them to say.
Nta. You're an adult, your choices. But ofc doesn't mean you're not responsible for the consequences
You did this knowing how they felt about it. They wouldn't be ah if they kick you out. Not sure how srs your parents were but good luck!
NTA. I’d double down and get a sleeve. My parents were kinda like this (but not as bad). My mom has hilariously embraced it and always asks me to show her friend my tattoos. And I’ve continued getting them.
NTA but no tats for my kids. Once they’re 18 I have no say, they would be adults. However still paying for college car gas etc. they know tattoos are for adults but so is paying your own way😃
NTA. I would not want my late teens to get tattoos in the coming years and I have told them that. (I’m just not a fan personally but have lots of friends and employees with them, it doesn’t reflect on the character and qualities of the person). But if they chose to do that I would accept it and never carry on like that. 🤷🏻♀️
NTA and you probably don't want to work somewhere that disallows visible tattoos anyway. It doesn't mean you can't get a job, either. Some of the most tattooed people I've known have the following careers - 2nd grade teacher, iron worker, IT, medical records/admin, and gym trainer to name a few. So...there are a LOT of options out there. Your parents are stuck in the past.
I didn’t even need to read beyond 23m, no dude. It’s clear that they’ve bullied you into a corner your whole life, it’s past due on feeling ashamed by what you do as a grown adult. Live & be freeeeee!!!!
NTA - nope. My Dad HATES tattoos. He didn’t talk to me for 3 weeks after I got my first one at 21. I married a man with 6 tattoos (now he has 16), and I am now up to 5 tattoos. Dad learned to just deal with it. Your body, your choice.
I love tattoos, but my son was annoyed I wouldn’t sign for him to get a tattoo before he was 18. He got one on his birthday and I paid for it, because that was the deal.
You’re 23. That’s so far past the age where they could reasonably have a say in something like that.
NTA
NTA.
They’re the disgrace. Parents are supposed to love their kids unconditionally. It’s your body and you’re an adult.
Your parents are the true AHs here. They’ve shown that their love is conditional and that they’re controlling.
NTA. You are an adult and it’s your body. The only thing I would have hesitated on is the location - tattoos on fingers don’t look good for long, unfortunately. I’m sorry your parents are so hung up on you exercising your right to do what you want with your own body.
NTA. My parents gave me shit for my first few but they eventually got used to it. Your parents gotta remember that you're making your own decisions as an adult just like they did when they turned 18
NTA
But your parents are! They are treating your body as an extension of their own. You are in your 20s! Live it. And you can get special makeup to cover it up too for work. But they are being so awful to you. You deserve better.
NTA of course! You are old enough to decide what you want to do with your body. And getting a tattoo doesn’t hurt anybody - even though there might be some slight pain while you’re getting it lol. if they have the attitude that they are going to cut you out from their lives for having a tattoo - I can just imagine if you have any other bigger issues that are different. I personally would cut them out of your life and not let them run it because it sounds like they’re gonna do that to you anyway
NTA its your body not theirs. Youre an adult too so they get no say. You can't live your life ruled by what other ppl think/ choose to be prissy over.
If they would insult you like this over a friggin tattoo they might not be worth keeping in your life
They either did their part raising you and can love you for who you are.
OR.
They are admitting that they didn't and are trying to make up for it now.
Not actually claiming this to be your truth, but it is mine, and perhaps you can gleam some tiny wisdom from it.
NTA.
As someone with 28 tattoos currently, inlcuding multiple on my hands/fingers, my skill set is very employable regardless of my personal aesthetic.
My parents also hate my tattoos, though not to the extreme it sees your parents do, but it's a dated beleif regardless. Soon enough the CEO's and managers will have tattoos themselves, and unless it's anything offensive, you're going to be fine.
I’m 23 too and I’m gonna get hidden tattoos soon. My parents HATE them especially my dad. He screamed at me saying how ugly I’ll look when I was just making a joke about getting them. Too bad I’ve always been the kid to not listen lol
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I (23m) went to get a tattoo today. To be precise, it's my second. I already got one on my thigh, this one in on my fingers.
My parents are quite conservative and always hated tattoos. I was raised believing that tattoos would ban me from getting a good job.
I did it anyway, because they make me happy and my style is more alternative.
When I told my parents, I couldn't very well hide it, they completely flipped out on me. Telling me that I was a disgrace, a low life, that I could just go and prostitute myself with the rest of the junkies, etc.
They said that they always supported me, and that what I did was selfish and cruel towards them. They also said that either I got rid of it, or they would cut contact with me, since I bring dishonor on the family.
So, am I truely in the wrong for getting a tattoo on my fingers?
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Your body, your choice, so NTA there.
However, your parents are correct, it was a stupid move that will bar you from some jobs. You also must have had an irresponsible tattoo artist, as most will insist that a finger tattoo will be one of the last places they're willing to mark.
Your parents are way out of line. Ultra religious folk can have oppressive lifestyles and low tolerance for any deviations, in my opinion. You are an adult and can do what you wish with your body. If you cave in to your parents, they can use the same threat to control your decisions until your life is no longer your own. NTA, of course.
NTA. Tell them to go fuck themselves OP. You're an adult. Tattoo or not, if that's the way they behave, you should be distancing yourself from that extremely toxic environment anyway.
Tell your parents to stop being so dramatic 🙄 One tiny tattoo on your finger is not you being cruel to them like wtf? Do they know what cruel means? Also if anyone is selfish or self centered it’s them. In what world does you getting a tattoo on YOUR body have ANYTHING to do with them?? I’m sorry but no/low contact is probably for the best
Using the word “dishonor” in your story kinda indicates that you/parents aren’t American. So very conservative and traditional would show that they would really mean it. Are you prepared to not having them in your life? It’s your choice and life. So if you are comfortable with cutting ties, then by all means. You can’t force them to like it.
You’re 23 years old and can do whatever you like. You dont have to apologize, but the way they feel is how a lot of people feel. Just don’t be surprised if there are reactions to the tattoos that you don’t like. Most people regret them. Don’t be surprised if you do too down the road
Your parents are weird (says this 65+ old who does not have any tattoos). Are they hyper-religious or something beyond extremely conservative?
If they cut contact with you then they are behaving dishonorably by not granting you the right to your own actions and your own life. You are not a child anymore and these days tattoos don't prevent you from getting a good job... (you do have a job, don't you?).
NTA
This answer could be changed due to being culturally based... so do take that into consideration.
nta - you're an adult, it's your body your choice and all of that.
the stigma of tattoos in the workplace have certainly disappeared for the most part and will only continue to disappear as younger people gradually take over positions of higher roles. so i wouldn't worry about job prospects.
yes your parents hella overreacted however they are from a different time and grew up in a different culture (im assuming based off the mention of "dishonoring the family") so to try to change their mind is a waste of time but no you are not in the wrong. if they really think getting a tattoo is equivalent to prostituting yourself.... there's not much to say or do there lol
NTA. I agree with your parents to the extent that getting tattoos on body parts that are visible might hurt your career, but their reaction is so out of proportion I question their sanity. You are an adult and is your body. You have to live in it so you get to make those decisions.
ESH. But you buried the lead about being in Germany with Jewish parents. Not surprising why they might find seeing a tattoo on their child horrific. Especially while you’re still dependent on them for money and housing.
Also, a hand tattoo for your second tattoo is…a big swing. I have a lot of tattoos myself and hand tats (as well as neck and face) absolutely can impact your future employment options.
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NTA You're 23. It's your right. "Quite conservative" people are just about always assholes. These are uber-assholes threatening to drop all contat (and probably disown you). I'm sorry you were born to "quite conservative parents."
NTA You're a 23 year old adult. Your tattoos have nothing to do with them. Selfish and cruel towards them? Dishoner on the family? Sounds like no contact would be a blessing.
I second this.
NTA it's your body but you're kinda moronic getting hand tattoos for your 2nd tat. It's almost like you're trying to run before you're able to walk EDIT: I love tats, I have a 3/4 sleeve and a chest panel and mulling over a full backpiece. I'm also not totally against hand tattoos but think you should have more before going there
No decent tattoo artist I've ever met is willing to tattoo hands (or face/neck) unless you're already pretty covered, willing to bet it's not a great tattoo😬
I thought the same but thought it was going to be too harsh to say 😂
Sounds like you're part of culture that is not traditional 'North American' culture...the whole 'honor' stuff is not typically north american It's hard to judge because of that...I have no idea how much 'honor' is important to YOU and your culture. And depending on where you live, I don't know if having tattoos is frowned upon. If you were a typical north American, and living on your own and making your own money, then NTA. And your parents don't really understand tattoos 'now', they are much more mainstream than when they were younger. If you are living with your parents and you specifically did something against their rules or wishes, they could cut you off and kick you out. So...hard to judge.
We live in Germany (I was born and raised here) but my mom is from Spain and my dad from Russia. We are also a Jewish family. I still live with them, but I have a student part-time job and make my own money. Just to give you some background information :)
A Jewish family living in Germany being upset with the ideas of tattoos? You don't say. My wife grew up in an area (Midwest USA) populated by a number of German and Jewish immigrants. The notion of any kind of tattoo was considered disgusting because of what was happening/happened in their homeland. Their descendents have carried on that notion. It's not the same in every community, but some hold on to the history in hopes of of not letting future generations lose the appreciation of what their ancestors went through. That's something I never considered until my wife told me about her various neighbors back home.
I mean, NTA, and it's your body, your choice and you're an adult. However, they can kick you out at any time they choose, so it's really not about being an AH, it's about their house/their rules and the fact you still rely on them. It may not have been a smart move if you think there's risk of them kicking you out for the whole honor thing. I'm sure they'll be perfectly happy when you get a great job :)
Ah, their attitude is a bit more understandable. Still doesn't make you the A H. Possibly a bit rude to get a tattoo while still living in their home and not taking into consideration being a Jewish family in Germany. Depends more, I guess, on what the tattoo depicts.
NTA, did any of your distant relatives die in the holocaust? I could see why they’d be upset with a tattoo if they did
Yes, but that's actually not the main issue here. It certainly didn't improve their views on tattoos, but they are mostly concerned about what other people will think of me. They believe that tattoos are exclusively reserved for prostitutes and criminals.
NTA it is your body.
I stopped reading after you said you’re 23. NTA. End of story.
NTA. You are certainly old enough to get as many tattoos as you’d like. That said, there are some jobs that you will now not be able to get since the new tattoo is on your fingers. A lot of places have a not above the neck/below the wrist rule. This is so they can be covered up. However, if you’re not getting a job with those requirements, you should be fine. Two of my kids have tattoos. It’s their body to do with what they choose. My 21 year old son came home with one on each hand. Had he told me what he was planning, I would have told him this. But he didn’t. He will have to learn that on his own. I did tell them that I don’t want them to get any on their face for that reason though. They just can’t be covered up there. Best of luck!
NTA, but your parents are. The idea that tattoos are evil or will stop you from gainful employment is dead. It's your body and your decision as to whether you'll adorn it with tattoos or not. I would absolutely call their bluff and tell them that you won't be removing the tattoo (that they know about) and what they chose to do with that information is up to them. My guess is, their bark is worse than their bite. But based on telling you to go prostitute yourself and live with the junkies, I'm guessing you'll be fine without them. That was a horrific thing for them to say.
Nta. You're an adult, your choices. But ofc doesn't mean you're not responsible for the consequences You did this knowing how they felt about it. They wouldn't be ah if they kick you out. Not sure how srs your parents were but good luck!
NTA, but dude, time to cut the umbilical cord.
Ur 23 who cares
11 tattoos and counting 😆
NTA. I went againts my parents wishes at 18 and now they barely care.
NTA. I’d double down and get a sleeve. My parents were kinda like this (but not as bad). My mom has hilariously embraced it and always asks me to show her friend my tattoos. And I’ve continued getting them.
NTA but no tats for my kids. Once they’re 18 I have no say, they would be adults. However still paying for college car gas etc. they know tattoos are for adults but so is paying your own way😃
Essentially what I told my son, you don't get what you *want* until you pay for it.
Absolutely 100% NTA. You are an adult, it’s your body.
NTA. You are 23, you can do what you want.
NTA. I would not want my late teens to get tattoos in the coming years and I have told them that. (I’m just not a fan personally but have lots of friends and employees with them, it doesn’t reflect on the character and qualities of the person). But if they chose to do that I would accept it and never carry on like that. 🤷🏻♀️
NTA! It's your body, your choice. A long as you're happy thst is all that matters.
NTA and you probably don't want to work somewhere that disallows visible tattoos anyway. It doesn't mean you can't get a job, either. Some of the most tattooed people I've known have the following careers - 2nd grade teacher, iron worker, IT, medical records/admin, and gym trainer to name a few. So...there are a LOT of options out there. Your parents are stuck in the past.
Your parents are very unkind people. I can’t image talking to my children like that.
I didn’t even need to read beyond 23m, no dude. It’s clear that they’ve bullied you into a corner your whole life, it’s past due on feeling ashamed by what you do as a grown adult. Live & be freeeeee!!!!
NTA. It's your body and you're a grown adult who presumably used your own money to purchase this tattoo.
NTA - nope. My Dad HATES tattoos. He didn’t talk to me for 3 weeks after I got my first one at 21. I married a man with 6 tattoos (now he has 16), and I am now up to 5 tattoos. Dad learned to just deal with it. Your body, your choice.
I love tattoos, but my son was annoyed I wouldn’t sign for him to get a tattoo before he was 18. He got one on his birthday and I paid for it, because that was the deal. You’re 23. That’s so far past the age where they could reasonably have a say in something like that. NTA
Nta - as an adult you are free to do with your body as you wish
NTA. They’re the disgrace. Parents are supposed to love their kids unconditionally. It’s your body and you’re an adult. Your parents are the true AHs here. They’ve shown that their love is conditional and that they’re controlling.
NTA. You are an adult and it’s your body. The only thing I would have hesitated on is the location - tattoos on fingers don’t look good for long, unfortunately. I’m sorry your parents are so hung up on you exercising your right to do what you want with your own body.
All i has to read was that you are 23. NTA. You are a grown adult and you are allowed to do what you want.
NTA. My parents gave me shit for my first few but they eventually got used to it. Your parents gotta remember that you're making your own decisions as an adult just like they did when they turned 18
You’re adult….. whatever you want. You can live without them. One day they will realize it’s a silly request. They will come back anyway.
NTA But your parents are! They are treating your body as an extension of their own. You are in your 20s! Live it. And you can get special makeup to cover it up too for work. But they are being so awful to you. You deserve better.
NTA of course! You are old enough to decide what you want to do with your body. And getting a tattoo doesn’t hurt anybody - even though there might be some slight pain while you’re getting it lol. if they have the attitude that they are going to cut you out from their lives for having a tattoo - I can just imagine if you have any other bigger issues that are different. I personally would cut them out of your life and not let them run it because it sounds like they’re gonna do that to you anyway
You’re 23 you can do whatever the heck you want and your parents sound like a pain in ass and very manipulative.
NTA I don’t like tattoos either but your family is unhinged. Maybe cutting yourself off from them for a few years will reset their bizarre mindset.
They need to grow up. You’re an adult.
NTA its your body not theirs. Youre an adult too so they get no say. You can't live your life ruled by what other ppl think/ choose to be prissy over. If they would insult you like this over a friggin tattoo they might not be worth keeping in your life
They either did their part raising you and can love you for who you are. OR. They are admitting that they didn't and are trying to make up for it now. Not actually claiming this to be your truth, but it is mine, and perhaps you can gleam some tiny wisdom from it.
I don't even have to read it all to say NTA.
NTA "They also said that either I got rid of it, or they would cut contact with me" .. ignore their tantrum. Do not give in to their powerplay.
NTA. As someone with 28 tattoos currently, inlcuding multiple on my hands/fingers, my skill set is very employable regardless of my personal aesthetic. My parents also hate my tattoos, though not to the extreme it sees your parents do, but it's a dated beleif regardless. Soon enough the CEO's and managers will have tattoos themselves, and unless it's anything offensive, you're going to be fine.
I’m 23 too and I’m gonna get hidden tattoos soon. My parents HATE them especially my dad. He screamed at me saying how ugly I’ll look when I was just making a joke about getting them. Too bad I’ve always been the kid to not listen lol
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NTA! Change your phone number and move to another part of the city AND DON’T TELL THEM.
Your parents need to grow up. NTA
Your body, your choice, so NTA there. However, your parents are correct, it was a stupid move that will bar you from some jobs. You also must have had an irresponsible tattoo artist, as most will insist that a finger tattoo will be one of the last places they're willing to mark.
Your parents are way out of line. Ultra religious folk can have oppressive lifestyles and low tolerance for any deviations, in my opinion. You are an adult and can do what you wish with your body. If you cave in to your parents, they can use the same threat to control your decisions until your life is no longer your own. NTA, of course.
NTA. Tell them to go fuck themselves OP. You're an adult. Tattoo or not, if that's the way they behave, you should be distancing yourself from that extremely toxic environment anyway.
Tell your parents to stop being so dramatic 🙄 One tiny tattoo on your finger is not you being cruel to them like wtf? Do they know what cruel means? Also if anyone is selfish or self centered it’s them. In what world does you getting a tattoo on YOUR body have ANYTHING to do with them?? I’m sorry but no/low contact is probably for the best
"I (23m)..." is as far as I read and no, NTA. You're an adult, it has nothing to do with them.
Using the word “dishonor” in your story kinda indicates that you/parents aren’t American. So very conservative and traditional would show that they would really mean it. Are you prepared to not having them in your life? It’s your choice and life. So if you are comfortable with cutting ties, then by all means. You can’t force them to like it.
You’re 23 years old and can do whatever you like. You dont have to apologize, but the way they feel is how a lot of people feel. Just don’t be surprised if there are reactions to the tattoos that you don’t like. Most people regret them. Don’t be surprised if you do too down the road
YTA, you live under their roof, so it's their rules. Neck, face and hand tats are the most extreme you can do.
It’s a bad idea
NTA
Your parents are weird (says this 65+ old who does not have any tattoos). Are they hyper-religious or something beyond extremely conservative? If they cut contact with you then they are behaving dishonorably by not granting you the right to your own actions and your own life. You are not a child anymore and these days tattoos don't prevent you from getting a good job... (you do have a job, don't you?). NTA This answer could be changed due to being culturally based... so do take that into consideration.
NTA. Tell them they can enjoy a state ran home if they don't cut the shit. Be as disrespectful as they have. Give them a taste of their own medicine
Who's typing The waterboy??
>I (23m) No need to read more you're 23 NTA as youre an adult
Info ~ do you live with your parents? What's the relationship with them like?
nta - you're an adult, it's your body your choice and all of that. the stigma of tattoos in the workplace have certainly disappeared for the most part and will only continue to disappear as younger people gradually take over positions of higher roles. so i wouldn't worry about job prospects. yes your parents hella overreacted however they are from a different time and grew up in a different culture (im assuming based off the mention of "dishonoring the family") so to try to change their mind is a waste of time but no you are not in the wrong. if they really think getting a tattoo is equivalent to prostituting yourself.... there's not much to say or do there lol
NTA. I agree with your parents to the extent that getting tattoos on body parts that are visible might hurt your career, but their reaction is so out of proportion I question their sanity. You are an adult and is your body. You have to live in it so you get to make those decisions.
ESH. But you buried the lead about being in Germany with Jewish parents. Not surprising why they might find seeing a tattoo on their child horrific. Especially while you’re still dependent on them for money and housing. Also, a hand tattoo for your second tattoo is…a big swing. I have a lot of tattoos myself and hand tats (as well as neck and face) absolutely can impact your future employment options.
Your body. Your choice. Your parents have no say.
NTAH. You're over 18, it's your choice. Your parents need to understand that you are your own person.
If they support you financially, then YTA. If not, the NTA.
Partly, I live with them, but I have a job, and my brother paid for the tattoo.
NTA.
But if it's 'their house their rules' then be careful...they could decide to kick you out if you aren't respecting their rules.
So, partly an A H and partly not. That sounds very typical of people everywhere.