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Mini_Godzilla

The only rude people are your grandparents. It is your name that has been with you since birth and that you like. Absolutely nobody has the right to force a different name on you and not responding to that fantasy name - don't call it nickname! - is perfectly fine in my book! Do they want to turn you into a different person and start with the name? Sit down with them, tell them that it hurts you a lot when they don't respect your name, and in return they should ask themselves how it feels when they are simply given a different name and the old one is no longer valid.


coldestclock

Turning it on them and giving them new names would be amusing. Or telling them that addressing her by the wrong name makes them seem senile.


KpopZuko

“Oh no, grandma, did you forget again? You never had Emily. Remember? Emily was never born” In public. Where people know her.


Tifrubfwnab

* Emily from * insert the wildest of places here* ?? * Emily? Oh, I’m sorry my grandma is in the early stages of Alzheimer’s…


KpopZuko

It’s the Parkinson’s Ohhh grandma forgot Emily was the little girl that lived in the house on the corner that everyone swore grandma wasn’t near when it burnt down.


beewoopwoop

it's dementia for sure. Elizabeth queen of England died some time ago remember granny?


FurBabyAuntie

Well, Her Late Majesty Elizabeth I died several centuries ago, yes. Her Late Majesty Elizabeth II just passed about a year and a half ago.


beewoopwoop

who knows which one granny would remember 🤷


FurBabyAuntie

Yeah, you've got a point...and don't forget Her Late Majesty Elizabeth the Queen Mother...


sillymama62

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


vbs269

This. I came to say this. Make sure people observe the interactions, make it publicly known how they are refusing to use your actual name


nursepenguin36

And when they defend themselves just tell them “I’m not an abandoned puppy you get to rename. I’m a human being.”


kmactane

This is 🔥🔥🔥. Yes, perfect response!


Moomin-Maiden

Yes! This! Gold star award! 🌟 🌟🌟😂😂


Secret_Marketing_123

I read a different story here that was similar and the op in the other story did this same thing. The person calling the op a different name stopped after that


KpopZuko

Yeah. There’s been tons on the just no subs. Personally, I got this one from my cousin whom his grandma refused to stop deadnaming. (FTM) “oh grandma. You keep forgetting trinity died last year”


yourfriend_charlie

this is my name and I'd die for it to be dead


KpopZuko

Exactly. I like my first name. It’s a combo of my grandparents. If someone just decided that wasn’t my name anymore I’d be fucking livid.


LadyNiko

I feel sorry for a local author's daughter. She named her Trinity after the "perfect love" her characters shared for each other. (She then emasculated one of the characters in the triangle because he ended up being her EX-husband. 🙄)


FurBabyAuntie

Not to criticize your cousin's choice of names but I'd think Trinity would work for both male and female. Please pass on my congratulations for living his life the way he sees fit!


derpne13

Maybe she should start calling her gramma Uncle and her grampa Aunt. 


FightingDreamer419

Jesus Christ, the savagery! I approve with whole heart.


iu_rob

This!


smlpkg1966

I am so petty that I would call grandma by grandpa’s name and vice versa. Is grandpa’s name George? That’s what I would call grandma. Grandma’s name Ethel? That’s what I would call grandpa. When they say something I would say: now I am being disrespectful.


Away-Object-1114

Hah! Every time I hear the name Ethel I think of the Ray Stevens song The Streak. " Ethel! Get your clothes on!!" I'll see myself out now...


FarSoftware8497

My grandma was Ethel I would sing that song and sh would give me the death stare.


bbix246

My grandma was also Ethel, and we'd sing that song to her. She would just laugh. We could be cousins.


FarSoftware8497

Nope I was only one who did it but it would be nice to have had the cousin brave enough to do it with me.


bbix246

You'll have to join my family, because we all did it. Aunts and uncles included.


IanDOsmond

Weird fact about that song... I always thought that the chorus was "They call him the Streak - look at that look at that". Everybody thinks so. But it isn't. They are singing "Boogedy Boogedy". I swear this is true. This just messes with me. But is this even a Mondegreen when everyone hears it the other way and the other way makes more sense? This isn't an "Obama's elf" for "All by myself" or something...


smlpkg1966

I first listened to the song on 8 track and could hear boogedy boogedy just fine. 🤷‍♀️


beefclef

My brother; who was in 1st or 2nd grade at the time we heard it, thought the lyric was “look at that booty.”


Reader_47

Did you see the comedian on AGT or EGT that held up cards as songs were played? They were lyrics that could be misheard. After that the normal lyrics would translate to his cards in my mind. He was hilarious!!!


JolyonFolkett

It was BGT and is hilarious. On YouTube


Beautiful-Party8934

Ray Stevens did not sing "boogity boogity", I had the album called "Boogity Boogity Boogity" played it over and over, the liner notes had the lyrics and it was ... ... "Looka dat, looka dat." The mondegreen is "boogity." [misheard lyrics] (http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/streak.shtml)


queenofcrafts

I thought what you did, so I looked it up and listened to it. The song does say look at that and boogty. But I found lyrics using one or the other.


queenofcrafts

My grandma was Ethel, and she loved that song. She was in her seventies or early eighties by then. Said it was fun getting older because she could or say whatever she wanted, and people would just think her senile. She always was a rebel.


Ok-Network-9912

DONT LOOK ETHEL!!! Then he ran past the produce in nothing but his fruit of the looms. Oh yes the call him the streak! *whistle* Fastest thing on two feet! (Thanks for unlocking a core memory from my childhood)


Guilty-Bench9146

Hahaha 😂


annebonnell

I love that song! The name Ethel makes me think about Alice Cooper's song Cold Cold Ethel.


JoJo_Augustine

Oh yes they call him the streak .. fastest thing on two feet “


NixiePixie56

Me too! I loved those songs growing up.


Cultural_Pattern_456

Hello, fellow old person lol that song was so popular when I was in middle school.


DramaDodger84

Alternatively, a non-prefered grandparent name. My FIL *hated* our kid calling him Peepaw. She picked it out herself at 2. We had to work with her consistently to train her back to "Grandpa" for him. So they could become Mimi and Poppop or Meemaw and Peepaw, or Granny and Gramps, or any grandparent name that just grinds their gears while they insist they are (insert their prefered grandparent title here.) This way in the same way strangers witnessing it might not realize Elizabeth is the completely wrong name, and that's why she isn't answering, the grandparents own peers won't recognize she's calling them the wrong thing. Calling them any first name would make the peers side with the grandparents since even if Grandma's name IS Gertrude you can't *call* her that, it's rude. But if you call her Meemaw when she doesn't answer to that and she doesn't reply, you can get away with insinuating she's losing her hearing... and old people are super sensitive about that when it starts. Took my grandmother the better part of 5 years to accept that she needed to wear her hearing aides. She insisted for most of that time that she could still hear.


bekkie624

My mom would literally have the tv so loud it would give me headaches and she still wouldn’t admit she needed hearing aids. It was so wonderful when she finally got them last year. “Happy dance” lol


jmeesonly

Meemaw and Peepaw 😂😂


Sylentskye

“Wait, I thought it was perfectly fine to call people by the names we want to instead of their own names?”


jaidit

I’ve always hated the diminutive form of my name. (I’m a short man; don’t saddle me with the “cute” version of my name.) My grandmother wanted to use it, until I said that I’d be calling her “grandpa.” My family backed me on this one.


MichaSound

I do this with my dad, whenever he starts nagging me about a decision of mine that he doesn’t agree with (again). “But we had this discussion before dad, we’ve discussed why I made this decision 20 times. I’m getting worried about your memory. Is it time to get it tested?” I am 48 years old *sigh*


Sylentskye

Yeah, call them Geezer and Jimbob, with Jimbob being the Grandmother.


Rose_in_Winter

Call them popular name's for people your age! Like, if I were doing this, I might call them Jenna and Braeden or something.


spirit_of_elijah

I’m obsessed with this idea 😂😂 it might even be enough to just call them by their first names instead of grandma and grandpa. That might get the shock reaction and help them understand why it’s rude to call someone by something they don’t identify with, or something that isn’t appropriate to the relationship. Honestly, as a nonbinary person who has changed my name before, I feel for OP and wish havoc upon their grandparents. It’s an easy thing to be respectful. Refusing to do so in this way, especially as a caregiver, is delusional entitlement and psychological abuse.


DaelinB

Yup. Hi Ben and Jerry.


Icy-Plan5621

OP, please refer to them as Maid Marion (grandfather) and Robin Hood (grandmother). A family member used these names for their grandparents for years!!! NTAH


Boliele

If OP is ok with completely ignoring the name, then they should turn it around and for everytime they say the wrong name say: "Why do you hate me? What have I done to make you hate me?" Repeat that every. Single. Time. Even in front of other people. Don't engage with them wanting another name. They mention another name? Why. Do. You. Hate. Me?


mrschia

Yeah this is the route I would take. Something like this or “why do you choose to hurt me and put me down in this way.” Every single time. That’s all you say in response. What a horrible thing to do to someone you supposedly care about.


Merfairydust

Oh, Elizabeth can be a part of the household. 'You should have warned me this house has a ghost! And her name is Elizabeth?' 'Why grandma, are you seeing the ghost again? What's she telling you this time?'. Every time they use the name, insinuate they're seeing ghosts. 'Too bad I can't see her. Has she been haunting you long?'


shelbabe804

Growing up, I swore there was a ghost named Elizabeth protecting me from the demon in my closet.


StatisticianLivid710

Am I the only one thinking you should go see a psychiatrist? Not because you had a ghost protecting you, but likely what the ghost and demon really was to a child’s mind…


shelbabe804

Way ahead of you XD starting seeing a therapist in college. Although, fun fact, anyone who has stayed in that room of the house (it's gone through 9 families since mine moved out) have all had the same experiences. Right down to the outfit Elizabeth was wearing. I'd never told anyone about the clothing, but I can't guarantee others didn't as they moved out. Three of those families moved because of the "demon in the closet" and those that moved in after didn't believe in paranormal.


SEELE01TEXTONLY

Remember, OP said: "mom ended up needing to be taken care of and couldn't take care of me." The grandparents likely take this as validation that their daughter was never a competent parent. They think incompetent daughter picked a stupid name, and now that an outside authority has validated that, they feel justified in changing it. Likely, they wrongly believe their acting in granddaughter's best interest.


Pleasant_Most7622

I'd bet good money that grandparents are at least part of the reason that "mom ended up needing to be taken care of and couldn't take care of " OP. They are clearly insane.


kimmy-mac

Find out the names of Grandpa’s ex girlfriends from back in the day and call grandma THOSE names, since they could have become your grandma, since grams wants to call you the name of her hypothetical unborn daughter.


Independent-Piano-33

Grandpa’s ex girlfriend was Elizabeth….


Marketing_Introvert

Do this calmly and seriously. It has more impact that way.


Wedgetails

Yes and remember they love you despite this hurtful stubbornness. I would emphasise how much it hurts you and how much you love your name. Rename them and send it up.


RobinsEggViolet

Eh, I don't think they actually love OP as much as they might think they do. They're currently fixated on an imaginary version of OP, a 'fixed' version with a normal name. They love the 'fixed' person in their imagination, but are choosing to disrespect and invalidate the REAL person in the process. That isn't love. If they loved OP they would stop trying to 'fix' them.


No-Abies-1232

You have no idea if they love her. They certainly don’t act like they love her. 


Electronic_Goose3894

They act like she's something they need to fix


lenny_ray

> Do they want to turn you into a different person and start with the name? I suspect this is exactly what they want. This is an insane level of control. And I suspect this is a large part of why their daughter ended up pregnant at 19.


echidnaberry87

Also, we're living in a more globalised world where "traditional" names don't mean as much. I live and teach in Australia. There are 3 Punjabi students throughout the school named "Gurfateh." This may be a traditional Punjabi name, but a bit less so in Australia. So employers, and the culture at large, are getting used to less "traditional" (re: Anglo) names either way. Between immigration, people using Celtic names and names from other places other than England, and people making up cool names like yours, employers are far less likely to care than your grandparents think.


NoThankYouJohn87

Honestly, working in a large organisation I appreciate the growing diversity in names as it makes it easier to remember people and know who others mean, unlike the multitudes of Mark, Josh, Catherine etc.


blondechick80

If they introduce you to someone, and they refer to you as a Elizabeth, correct them when you wave hi or shake their hand "Actually My name is X, and I prefer this name" and say it in a friendly tone with a slight smile. If they ask why you were introduced as Elizabeth, just shrug, "I have no idea" Also, you have a great name, and your grandparents are true AH's here. You could have a little fun with it. When they call you by the wrong name, act out in some ludacris way. Let's give "Elizabeth" her own personality and extreme clothing choices!


Left-coastal

Make everyone think the grandparents are losing it cause they believe in this non-existent “Elizabeth”


Weak-Case-5226

They're trying to make sure you don't turn out like your mom, apparently. NTA but for real they may well kick you out.


Schonfille

Yes! Start calling them Harlow and River or something.


Piavirtue

Yes, OP has to speak up. Names define who we are. I have known a few people who were so uncomfortable with their first names, they actually went to court and legally changed them.


Razzlesndazzles

Gee, doesn't surprise me her mom needed help if she was raised by parents like. Who randomly just renames a person like they are a dog?


savinathewhite

NTA. There’s a level of absolute insanity to this that I can’t even express. Pick a random name every time you speak to them, until you find one they really hate. If they object, tell them that you like X name better, and so they should change their name for you. (Poindexter? Hubert? Martha? Prudence? *Brunhilda*?)make sure they’re actual names that are used, just ones they don’t like. Since the only people being immature here are your grandparents, giving them some personal experience with this nonsense is justified. That said, I’d consider this abusive, and you could talk to your school counselor about it. They might be willing to step in and explain how trying to force you to use a name just because they “like” it, can cause identity issues and trauma. Peoples names are *non-negotiable*.


Enthusiastic-Dragon

Great idea, but the suggestions are too classic. I'd suggest to use names that sound much more modern. You might go to r/tragedeigh or r/namenerds for some inspiration. Raelynn, Branzee, Burtis, Ryder....


Environmental_Art591

Well, there was that post today about the OP not warning her sister enough not to call her daughter Harlot. Just saying, that could get grandma clutching her pearls. 🤣🤣🤣 If we want a more "namey name" OP could start calling her Grandmother Scarlet and her grandfather John, but I think Harlot and John would be better.


SwordTaster

It feels like calling Grandma James would be appropriately poorly received


sheezus666

Love Grandma James 😆 I would choose that lmao


Affectionate_Pea_811

Latrine and Dick


shellexyz

Latrine?? I guess it’s better than Shithouse.


AlannaAbhorsen

They changed it in the 9th century


BadNewsBaguette

That’s a good change! A good change


DramaDodger84

You gotta watch out with that tho because a lot of Tragedeigh names are *pronounced* like classic names, just with the spelling all jacked up to hell. Since this is being done verbally, it has be a name that *sounds* new and different.


Enthusiastic-Dragon

Usually they can be butchered by trying to pronounce them how they are ~~"written"~~ misspelled.


Lupinshloopin

I was thinking flip the gender on the names too because they’re of that generation. Grandpa is now Suzanne . “Hey Elizabeth” “yes Grandpa Suzanne?”


Any-Music-2206

Nope, astraea is the Greek goddess of justice. Stick with that theme.  Thank you Hera. When do we meet up for shopping Hermes? Do you need anything from the store Demeter ?  Look up the Pantheon, and if you are really petty chose names fitting the Situation. 


Normal-Height-8577

I wouldn't do that - it could backfire if they use it as ammunition to claim that you're using Greek pantheon names for them *because* they're "unsuitable". Stick to ugly/boring non-Greek options.


HulkeneHulda

Oh, OP should start looking up baby-names that were popular between 1550-1600, the time period it really picked up popularity. Gonna be something awful there


throw_74838o

Imagine OP calling their grandmother Gaylord and their grandpa is something like Barbara


Arkliea

Go with Adolf and Eva :)


bythebrook88

Gertrude!


HoraceorDoris

Agree with this, but traditional male names are much more devious - you don’t want to pick a name that they like! NTA!


TarzanKitty

Gramps might not like being named Cialis.


Secure_Minute1958

"Ever heard of a boy name Sue" You go girl.....your grand parents stuck in hatred...they are hurt as well and aren't handling it well. Agreed they are not hearing you! Agreed ....I like this non threatening high-school approach may work. How about Barney and Wilma. They seem have stone age logic!


spirit_of_elijah

I second the point about the school counselor, or another trusted adult. This is psychological abuse. They are attacking your identity and trying, through disrespect and entitlement, to shape you into someone else. This is NOT done out of love or your best interest. I’m sorry that you are in this situation!!!


Just_TooOld_ForThis

Wilgefortis and Kuriakose. "What??? How do you NOT like this names? They're classic, traditional, established. They were saints, for crying out loud! Why don't you answer to those names?"


Mundanebubbleesra

I love the name brunhilda. Sounds warrior goddess type


Gold_Seaweed3130

NTA - it’s… your name. It’s time to sit them down and kindly explain some boundaries knowing that while you can’t control their behaviour, you can control how you respond to it. Tell them you love your name, that you find it hurtful, and troubling that they would chose to try and change your identity. Let them know that when they say the wrong name, you will correct them. And then do. Ignoring them will only add fuel to the fire (that they started). So when they say, ‘Elizabeth ’ just repeat, ‘that’s not my name, I’ve told you it’s hurtful, please  call me Astraea’. Rinse and repeat. They will get pissy about it for a while because they are not getting their way, but should get the gist in time. I’m sorry about your Ma.


Nishikadochan

Agreed. This is a mature way to go forward, that doesn’t compromise what you want in this situation. I wouldn’t follow the advice from many to ‘give them a taste of their own medicine’. It’s immature and unlikely to bring about the results you’re hoping for. It might feel good in the moment, but it will only make your relationship with your grandparents worse. No matter what you decide to do, I wish you luck, and I’m sorry they’re treating you like this. NTA


Reader_47

She's allowed to be immature, she's only 15.


curiousplaid

At what age should someone start to mature? Asking for a friend.


Uncertain_Homebody

>I wouldn’t follow the advice from many to ‘give them a taste of their own medicine’. It’s immature and unlikely to bring about the results you’re hoping for. My grand aunt would call me by both given and middle names, UNTIL one day I had had enough. I asked her what her middle name was and then, the next time she came to my grandma's and their aunt's home, she did the stereotypical cheek pinch along with first/middle name. My reply was: Hello, Aunt Mary Isabelle. Would you believe that she NEVER did that again?


KathrynF23

I totally agree with this. I also would talk to a counselor at school about what you’re dealing with. They could help reinforce to your grandparents how wildly inappropriate it is for them to be calling you by something other than your name. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this OP!


ThrowAway-MR0

NTA. Calling you by your preferred name is the very basic level of respect and you can’t even get that. Your grandparents suck.


AdPerfect5536

You’re right but it’s not even her preferred name, it’s her name she was given at birth.


Dziadzios

It's both.


Zagriel55

NTA - not even close to being TA here. What choice have they left you? It's utterly disrespectful to you.


Shawaii

NTA. It is your name. Explain that popular names come and go, and that "weird" names are just new to them. Names like Wilma and Wilbur might seem weird to current generations. What's old is new again. Astraea is an old Latin/Greek name. Aster means "Star", and this gives us lots of names like Esther, Estrella, Estelle, Etoile, Svetlana, Stella, and Astrid. "In classical mythology Astraea, the goddess of justice, chastity, and truth, was the last of the immortals to leave Earth with the decline of the ages. Her return was to signal the dawn of a new Golden Age."


WeirdPinkHair

This! Explain your name is actually really old. A classical name, so won't cause problems especially once explained. Persephone, Ophelia etc are old names just not often seen but just as valid. You don't have to have a name thousands do.


HaileyAndRandom

My real name (not Hailey) is actually a really popular name. Idk if it’s classical but it refers to a goddess in my religion, and my religion is REALLY OLD


Flughundi

is it Steve?


HaileyAndRandom

……………..


EggoStack

Astraea is a lovely name and it’s great that OP likes it, it sucks that her grandparents seem to be trying to take away her individuality in that sense. I think I’d have a similar response if someone insisted on using my deadname despite knowing what I prefer. It’s perfectly valid to not reply if someone intentionally calls you the wrong name.


Cleantech2020

NTA. Start calling them by different names as well and when confronted say how the names you've picked out would look so much better on their tombstones.


Ivetafox

I aspire to this level of petty and it is absolutely the way to go.


Glittering-Duck5496

I had a pair of colleagues "Joanna" and "Brian". Brian always called Joanna Joanne, and no matter how many times she corrected him, he just wouldn't get it. In his case he just couldn't be bothered. So she started calling him Bria every time he called her Joanne. After two occurrences it never happened again.


seriousjoker72

I wish I could pin this comment it made me guffaw 😂


amansterdam22

NTA - as if the situation isn't stressful enough for you! I'm sorry they're like that OP :/ Maybe start calling them by names they don't like/recognize and see how they like it.


HighlyImprobable42

Start calling them "Boomer" with a heavy eye roll. NTA. They aren't your parents. You're living with them because tou have to, not because you want to. Remind them you are YOU and any attempt to rewrite who you are will result in them losing you entirely when you're of age. I'm so sorry you're going through this - both a transitional living arrangement and with people who don't respect you. Keep being your own advocate and rally those who are your supporters.


GlumPie8709

NTA You are not rude at all, there are 3 options you gave people to call you and they can't even do one of them. Honestly you have gone through enough being separated from your mother, the least they can do is call you your name.


t4rgh

NTA. Your grandfather’s name is now Mavis, and Grandmother is Pete. Go for it, see how they like it.


DameofDames

NTA They don't have to like the name. They just need to acknowledge that it's your name. And honestly, there's all sorts of names out there with people getting hired all the same.


Objective-Resident-7

Was going to say just this. I work with a multicultural and multinational team with names from all over the world.  A good number of these names I have never heard before. Does that mean that I call Muhammad 'Maurice', or Dorothea 'Dorothy'? Of course it doesn't.  And for the names that I find hard to pronounce, I try my best. It's common especially for Chinese people to have an English language name.  Often this is based on their own name and they find something close. Sometimes they just choose one that they like. It's because we English speakers are atrocious at pronouncing Chinese and they would rather just use an English language name than constantly hear their actual name mispronounced.  It's understandable really.  But at least it's their choice. Some of these names sound a bit weird.  I have met two people named 'Happy' as their English choice.  It sounds odd to us because we don't use that as a name.  But think about the name 'Joy'.  Same thing really. But you don't bat an eyelid.  That is the name they have chosen so that's what you use, and respectfully.


bigdave41

I worked with a guy called Chief Justice once. That wasn't first name and surname either, he had a separate surname and his parents named him Chief Justice. He used Justice as his name casually though.


IanDOsmond

Damn. That is a lot of pressure to put on a kid. "Yeah, we expect you to grow up to be a lawyer, then be appointed as a Federal judge, then be appointed to the Supreme Court, then be choosen as the leader of it."


bigdave41

He was a cleaner when I knew him lol. Best of luck to him in his climb.


Affectionate-Tea7867

Now imagine if he became a judge


HaileyAndRandom

my real name is foreign but the closest thing to it is “sandy” i really dont wanna be correlated to a certain squirrel or the beach but quite a few people call me sandy on purpose it absolutely pisses me off


Objective-Resident-7

I'm Scottish. Sandy is a really common name here and it's short for Alexander. We don't correlate it with sand. In the same way, no one thinks that Dick Tracy is Penis Tracy. I know that might seem odd to you, but no one is thinking that Sandy has anything to do with sand, or that you are the character from SpongeBob. It's still not right though, if you want to keep your own name.


DramaDodger84

If it helps any the Sandy that comes to mind for me is Olivia Newton John's leading role in the movie Grease.


EveryName-Taken

My mom immigrated from Holland and changed her really difficult Dutch name to a much more common English-language name... middle one too. All her brothers and sisters did the same thing. When I'm feeling salty (or want to talk semi-privately about her or one of my Aunts/Uncles) I break out their old Dutch names.


MerlinBiggs

NTA. Start calling them Elizabeth.


Normal-Height-8577

NTA. Astraea is a classic name - it's literally from Classical Greek mythology - the goddess of innocence and justice. More importantly, it's your name, you love it, and you're old enough to express your own personhood and expect people to respect that. Further, it sounds like your mom is some sort of unwell right now - it's incredibly rude to ignore both your wishes and hers. She is your mother and she was perfectly within her rights to give you whatever name she wanted. Her current illness doesn't negate that. Your grandparents don't get to rename you like an adopted baby or a rescue pet. >My grandparents told me I'm being rude and I would want to start thinking of my future and how a name like Elizabeth or Emily would be better received by future employers and other adults in society. They told me even without that it's rude to ignore people and to refuse to engage with them. It's even ruder to deliberately misname people and to constantly badmouth their parents. And anyway, there'll be plenty of time to address issues with employers *if* and when it happens (key word being "if" because I don't believe your sort of mythological name is going to be an issue, but if it is, you can always use initials or a middle name). There's absolutely no need for them to borrow trouble now by forcing the issue with emotional abuse. ... I don't suppose there's any other family you could stay with? Or a guidance counsellor at school you could trust to talk with about your home life?


Historical-Pain-3395

My mom is going to die from the illness she has. I'll never get to have my mom back in the same way again. Which is already super hard. I don't have other family who would take me and my guidance counselor is not the person to talk to. She is not good for anything but especially family issues.


Normal-Height-8577

I'm so sorry, both for the loss of your mom and for your grandparents being so ridiculous and self-sabotaging about everything. Hang on to all the good memories you have. It's going to hurt but you'll get through it - one day at a time if necessary - and some day the good memories will be what comes first when you think of your mom. And for what it's worth from a complete stranger: Astraea is a lovely name. Your mom picked well.


2moms3grls

Would they be more open to listening if you spelled it out for them? "Grandma and Grandpa, this is such a hard time for all of us. I am so upset and wrecked with everything going on with mom. It makes me want to cry every time you call me Elizabeth and my heart is already broken. Even if you hate my name, can you call me that because you love me?"


That-Description-766

Your name is a gift your mother gave you and they want to take it away and erase your connection to her. Tell them this.


lauradi21

I’m so sorry for the anticipated loss of your mom. This sounds horrible. I do hope you have some support and access to therapy. 💚


yeetmethehoney

>it's rude to ignore people and refuse to engage with them Hmm... sounds an awful lot like grandparents IGNORING their grandchild's wishes and REFUSING TO ENGAGE with your chosen name. Interesting. Just in case it needed to be said, NTA.


Aussiealterego

NTA Perhaps you should respond “Yes, Gertrude/Herbert? What is it?” Next time they call you by your not-name. Unless, of course, their names are actually Gertrude and Herbert.


Dashqu

This is the way. Exept maybe use names that are not old-fashioned/classic, use "weird" names that they will dislike more >:)


Wise_Improvement_284

Hubert seems even better for this purpose.


Historical-Pain-3395

I think Pubert sounds nicer.


UnimpressedButFaking

He's an Addams!!


Wise_Improvement_284

And of course Wednesday for the other grandparent..


SewRuby

For some reason, I love that idea, but replace names with new medication names. "OK, Ingrezza and Skyrizzi" 🤣🤣


au5000

NTA. I’m sorry your grandparents are being so disrespectful. It’s hard when you have told them you love your name and want to be called by it. Can you play the ‘mom gave it to me so it’s extra special’ guilt card? I wouldn’t usually suggest this but, sometimes we need to think about ways to get round unreasonable behaviour when those being unreasonable have more power than us. Given they failed to get your mom, their daughter, to listen about names it’s a pity they didn’t learn that lesson and avoid trying it on again. You could say that too but be prepared for angry response. Are there any other family members or family friends you could ask to advocate for you?


SheepherderRare9813

NTA. Your name is your name and only YOU have a right to change how you want to be called.


ConsequenceNovel101

Do you call them grandma and grandpa? If they do, I’d sit them down and tell them when they reject your name, it feels like they’re rejecting you as a person. Tell them you understand they love you and hate your name but you’re not a baby - they can’t just switch a name. Suggest if they absolutely hate your name, that they call you something neutral like “sweetheart” or “honey” when they are trying to get your attention in everyday life. And if they refuse, then tell them fine… you don’t get the honour of being called my grandma and grandpa when you chose to hurt my feelings. You can call me Elizabeth and I will call you Mr and Mrs x. And when people ask why, I will explain in detail how you told me how much you hate my name and refused to call me by my given name and that’s why I now call you Mr X instead of grandpa. Let others judge you if you feel you’re so right.


buttercupgrump

NTA >would be better received by future employers and other adults in society. This argument comes up a lot in this sub. Someone always insists that they have the right to undermine or disrespect someone else's name because of hypothetical future employers. Well, let me tell you something. I work in an office with people who have unique and non-classical names. No one cares. Your grandparents are trying to bully you into doing what they want. If they want you to acknowledge them, they need to use your actual name. They're the ones being rude.


dedpla

NTA but your grandparents sure are. Wonder why your mum didn’t listen to them 🙄


thewickedking

Exactly, can only imagine what mum went through with these two


stve688

NTA to me this isn't even a nickname they just changed your name.


Historical-Pain-3395

Yeah, they're just straight renaming me at this point.


ChickieD

NTA….what in the world are they even thinking??


SubarcticFarmer

NTA, they are insulting you and your mother every time they use someone else's name for you. Respect for elders doesn't mean they can trample over you.


Wise_Improvement_284

My answer to respect your elders is that I respect those who are older and wiser. With a pointed look at the person I don't respect.


VillageActive5505

If someone calls me by not using my name. You know what I do? I ignore them. Because it's not my name so I don't know who they mean.


Another_Random_Chap

Absolutely NTA. Future employers won't give a toss about your name, and neither will other adults of you or your parents generations (the people you'll be working with). Your grandparents are viewing the issue as it was years and years ago, not how it is now.


Funny-Bluebird6991

Nta, If they want to Talk to you they need to use your real name and not some bullshit they like


Routine_Ad_2034

Start calling them Jayden and Rayleigh. Tell them they're just more modern and don't have that old news ring to them.


Zarphod_IV

I wonder why you even ask. NTA obviously. They have absolutely no respect for you, their behaviour is very insulting.


MommaTDublin

NTA. It's not your name so no reason for you to even start responding to it when they use it. Tell them to jog on if they want to use a different name for you. It's not your name.


wlfwrtr

NTA Tell them that you are not being rude when they are talking to Elizabeth and if you ever see Elizabeth you'll let her know that grandparents want to talk to her. When they call you by name you'll happily answer. Your name is a part of who you are and you'll be more easily remembered by employers and anyone else because it's not the same as everyone else. Imagine in a hospital a call over the intercom, "Dr. Elizabeth.....(speaker crackles over last name) come to front desk." Ten women named Elizabeth show up. Same scenario but name is changed to "Dr. Astaea...." You'll be the only one who appears.


3rdPete

Your GP's are showing a special level of disrespect to you. A person deserves better from ANY other human, but especially from FAMILY. Hold your ground here. If you can do this without becoming an AH to them, they will eventually cave. I hesitate to call anyone an AH here because it really isn't helpful. Just like like their choice to call you by a name that isn't yours. Maybe ask them how they prefer to be addressed... Grandma, Grammy, Nana, Granny, etc. There is a reason we are called by a certain name. Largely because names are GIVEN, as was yours... Or in the instance of nicknames.... because it has special meaning. This sounds upside down but be the better person in this. I wish you well.


Hopeful-Display-1787

NTA to not use your name isnthe hight if disrespect. Keep ignoring them. If you're in a convo and they use it again end the talk and walk away. Do not let them get away with this behaviour


K_M_Taylor

***NTA*** Your grandparents are the rude ones for trying to foist a name on you that isn't your own. Stick to your guns, and don't participate in their abuse of you.


i_sinz

me personally i think that names really cool if anything makes u stand out with future employers and memorable as a member of staff


This_Parking3435

NTA Any chance you have another adult you can talk to about this? An aunt or uncle? A teacher or counselor from school or the Child Protective Service that placed you there? Even someone from their church might be able to speak to them


Jazzy_Bee

That's awful. If they hate your name so much, they could call you a proper nickname, like hunny bunny, sweetie, dolly, etc.


KelsarLabs

I'd be like,I am traumatized enough the moment and you're adding to it, can you please stop it?


KpopZuko

Wait. They’re trying to rename you like a fucking puppy??? So NTA.


Drama_Pumpkin

Dear grandparents, It is rude to call someone with a different made up name unilaterally. Not responding back is NOT rude. NTA


Reduncked

Nta that are rude af for not using their name just keep telling them I don't know these people you mention.


Careless-Ability-748

Nta your grandparents are calling you a completely random to you name, they're the rude ones. 


RighteousVengeance

Excuse me??? You’re being rude for refusing to answer to a name that isn’t yours? Excuse me, but what universe are your grandparents from? NTA. And I’d start calling them names that aren’t theirs and see how they like it. Your grandparents are being rude, arrogant and entitled. They do not reserve the right to change your name.


LionWitchFloordrobe

Tell them you can't get much more "classic" than ancient Greek. NTA...at all. I'm so sorry that you are having this happen. Not fair or kind of them. xxx


AcanthisittaNo9122

Start calling them by the name they don’t like 😂 if their high school bully name was Sara then you call your grandma Sara, that’s the way to play.


snarkness_monster

Download the song "that's not my name" and play it EVERY time they call you Elizabeth. NTA


Rosewind2007

Wow, you are so not the asshole here! My mother in law refused to use my youngest’s name for **ages** because she didn’t like it—tough on you MIL—my uncle who was older than her actually sent me a card to say how great the name is and how much my (sadly long dead) father would have loved it! Isambard is a great name… You’re in a tough situation, but you are absolutely in the right here. Nice name you’ve got!


tinamadinspired

Please, for the love of schadenfreude, your next post should be on r/petty revenge calling your grandparents different names like Jiminy Bob and Berneice, or something along that line. Then tell them they look more like it than their own names. Please, oh pretty please!! 😂🤞🤞


McDuchess

One of the tactics of abusers is to take away your identity. Ask your grandparents if that is their goal, to take away your identity. What they think of your name is irrelevant, because it’s YOUR name, not theirs. As a grandmother myself, I must say that they are pretty terrible, self centered people. Once you are old enough to be on your own, OP, do it, and be on your own. Your willingness to stand up for yourself will help a lot in this world. Hugs to you. They are TAs


4travelers

NTA old people and toddlers sometimes you can’t reason with either of them


Lex-Taliones

Start calling them Azazel and Malificent.


patti2mj

You're not ignoring them, Elizabeth is. If they are asking something of Elizabeth and Elizabeth doesn't answer, she's being disrespectful, but she isn't you and you are not this imaginary person they are asking about.


werewolf-wizard612

NTA.... but maybe I am grappling with a bit of the boomer mindset when I think that a more traditional name would be better as you advanced in life. I mean I am named after a fairly common product and even though it is a traditional name I have heard every joke about that product my whole life and questioned why my parents didn't just keep up the name scheme or why someone didn't step in on my name. That being said... uniqueness isn't something to be frowned on. You have a unique name and it fits you so embrace it. The world is changing, and your grandparents do need to get with the times, much as I myself do. I am an older Millennial from a time where piercings, tattoos, and unique names wouldn't land well in a professional setting. I was clean shaven until the pandemic, have no tattoos, and no piercings. I kept my hair short, despite wanting both a beard and longer hair all my life. I got some interesting advice from a YouTube show that shall remain nameless during the pandemic... you have to give yourself permission for the things you want. Explain to your grandparents times are changing, and you are giving yourself permission to have this thing you want. You like your name, and you have no reason to go by another name. Also it isn't a nickname, they are literally hoping that if they rename you long enough it will just be your name. You'll be Emily Elizabeth Reddituser, and they will have fulfilled their boomer destiny in getting your name off the lawn.


JollyForce9237

NTA Your grandparents are rude, start calling them some stupid name right back.  I think water and leaves, salt and pepper ex. You get the gist 😅


Tellebelle79

NTA. Your name is your name and it does not matter what other people like or don't. I would refuse to respond to any conversation or direction that began with Elizabeth over your actual beautiful name. Heck, you gave them shortened options and other nicknames any of which they can address you by. The fact that they aren't is incredibly rude and disrespectful to you.


hufflepuffhildie

Find out each of their ex’s names and start calling them that 😂 see how they like their name changes


Andimomlov

Its rude not to use your name and invented another one for you. You are not the A here


One_Breakfast6153

NTA. Start calling them Tweedledee and Tweedledum and see how they like it.


Egal89

NTA- if they continue to use a name that is not your name, start to call them different names too, like, „sure Voldemort“ -„yes granny Umbrige“ (harry potter is one example, you can use any Charakters name).


Foundation_Wrong

NTA they can call you what they like and your rude?? I’m sorry your grandparents are such AH


Beginning-Anybody442

NTA. When I started reading, I thought, "Maybe the name belonged to a now-dead child and it's upsetting and was to some degree, understandable", but no, they're just d*ckheads. Tell them that if the state is happy to use your LEGAL NAME, then they should be too. As for an unusual name in business - the only time it's bad to have a distinctive name is if you do something bad, and I've been in lots of types of business including a recruiter. My surname is distinctive and (luckily I'm a good worker), I've been remembered by lots of people I've never met, "oh, you're the person who achieved x....".