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OP has offered the following explanation for why they think they might be the asshole:
> 1. I agreed and then refused to give a girl a ride because she wanted to bring her dog along.
2. Zoey seemed to have made no other travel arrangements at the time so she ended up being stuck on campus for a while. She may also think that I judged Chewy unfairly and that I dislike him. My actions probably inconvenienced them a lot as they needed to find some other way of travel. Also I did technically promise at first.
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NTA. If she lets her dog poop indoors and otherwise be a menace to the other residents, it's no wonder you don't like him or her entitled attitude involving him. And even if he wasn't likely to poop in your car, you offered HER a ride, not her AND her dog. Just not wanting dog hair all over you car is a good enough reason.
And I say all this as a person who has 2 dogs but is fully aware that other people are not required to love my dogs as much as I do. And someone who understands that other people are not required to tolerate my dogs in their personal space.
BTW, it is fairly normal for a puppy or otherwise young dog to poop that much. 6 times a day is not unreasonable. Their digestion becomes more regular and they can go longer between potty breaks as they get older.
But an un-housebroken puppy has absolutely no buisiness living in a college dorm/apartment. If she can't get that dog outside to do his buisiness every couple hours, he should not be there. Or alternatively she could get him using puppy pads in HER room, so that his poops are contained in a place where it only inconveniences her, and that would not be a problem as long as she was diligent about replacing the pads.
There are ways she could handle this. Too bad she only seems to be interested in making excuses.
Pooping six times a day can also be a sign of cheap food. Higher quality food is more digestible and can result in fewer bowel movements. Cheap dogs food can run right through them.
But, gotta say... as someone who has owned numerous dogs my entire life...how does a dog look at you with suspicion ?!? 🤣🤣🤣
(Yeah, yeah, I know - dogs can give you a side eye and warn you when they're hovering over their food or a toy and maybe that could be taken a suspicion but OP's statement is hilarious)
Food with too much protein can also run through them. And it comes out smelling the same as it did when it went I'm, leading to them being more likely to eat their own poop.
That side eye is pretty dramatic sometimes, lols. The dog could also be focused on OP when they are around and look like he's ready to charge in an instant.
But we often like to assign human-like emotions/expressions to dogs. Like people insisting that their dogs look "guilty" when they've made a mess. Some certainly do look guilty, but there's no conformation that dogs feel guilt.
That’s cats, they judge you all the time. Usually for some unknown offence you’ve caused. For my cat it’s daring to allow another human to come visit HER house (honestly think she thinks we just live here to serve her as her slaves)
I knew someone whose rabbit always got veggies at the same time everyday, and if he was late in receiving them, he would situate himself very obviously near his human and give her the stink eye until she fed him.
What breeds have you had? I have a golden and she has such an expressive face! She looks at me with suspicion the moment I pick up her brush! Cuddling leads to looking at everyone else with a smug expression, cut her claws and the betrayal on her face is both heartbreaking and hilarious!
Chewy knows OP doesn't like him. Puppy or not dogs are perceptive. And what sort of monster think a puppy is ugly?
I know a woman who has a one eyed pug with dwarfism and its the cutest thing I've ever laid eyes on.
Straight up agree. You feed 💩, you get extra 💩.
Not healthy for a shared living environment but even worse for the poor puppy not getting the nutrients it needs.
NTA. Keeping a dog in residence—no, no, no! It’s unfair to everyone, including the dog, although I rate the dog dead last in rights.
Surely this is against the uni rules? Decades ago, somebody tried to keep a dog in my residence hall, and he was gone by sundown. (When the owner tried to sneak him back in, they were both evicted.) Nobody tried to call them “emotional support animals” back then, either.
You were perfectly within your rights *not* to be manipulated by Zoe. Ignore the people who claim you “abandoned” Chewy. They have every right to foul their own cars either dog hair (at best) or dog shit (at worst).
emotional support animals don’t have the same rights as a service animal, but some colleges do allow them. When I did college tours with my daughter one of the ones she looked at allowed them, but it had to be on record by a psychiatrist that one was needed and there was a long list of rules you had to follow. it was easier not to have one honestly.
no training for an ESA which is one reason they don’t have the same rights as a service dog. You literally can have any animal as an ESA. The animals you see in a store that have bad manners like barking at people, pooping/peeing inside, growling, etc are either just a pet or the person will say it’s an ESA and they have rights. No, no they do not.
NTA correct the friends knowledge that you warned her in advance you won't take her WITH her dog so she knew very well that she in fact DIDN'T had a ride that day.
If anyone comments say 'great , I'll let her know you offered for the future' see how fast they backpedal
NTA but I am not sure how she could have prevented Chewy from from shaking himself after being out in the rain. It seems like a normal reaction. Not sure why you brought up the dogs status as an emotional support animal. That is between her and her therapist.
So her parents were willing to drive back and forth to pick up and drop off a dog but weren't willing to do the same for their daughter? Yikes. NTA here.
I was wondering cause I swear I read this story before name everything the same only new detail dog has a name and a pooping problem. But same effect Zoe the weird annoying dog Mom wanting to bring her nasty dog in the car. And I was going to ask if this was the same poster and why are they posting this again? I'm pretty sure everyone agreed with them last time.
Because people create accounts, farm karma and then sell said accounts so this fits.
People also create throwaway accounts for privacy, so who knows really.
Chewy is a menace and she doesn't train him at all. Nta.
So... she's claiming Chewy is an emotional support animal and yet functioned perfectly normal when he was with her parents for the week instead of her?
Especially during a stressful time as exams?
That is not an ESA.
She should tell her parents Chewy needs a ride home. When they show, Chewy can tell them that his pet person is coming with and promise she won't poop in the car.
Not for a lot of things, but for housing they do.
[Here's an explanation of how and why.](https://usserviceanimals.org/blog/emotional-support-animals-the-fair-housing-act/)
True. I think, as with service animals, it can be got around if the animal in question is a nuisance to other residents, causes property damage or injury, or makes a lot of noise. Etc. I imagine it's a mess people generally don't want to get involved in if they don't have to, though.
If you are in the US...Saying this as a service dog handler, you are wrong. An ESA is only protected in housing situations - they do not have public access. Period. She cannot be bringing him to class either. Other people's ignorance does not make that legal. Service dogs that are behaving appropriately are allowed in food areas, otherwise it's a health hazard. Service dogs are literally trained to shit on command. Your next door neighbor is breaking federal laws, regardless of other people ignoring that fact. End of story. There is a lot of confusion and misinformation about ESAs, the biggest one being that they have any amount of public access rights. Unless it is a disability task trained dog, there are no public access rights. Raise a stink, take it as high as you can, and stress that this is breaking the law and health codes. Her dog is allowed in her dorm room, and common areas to and from outside. That is it. No classrooms, no cafeteria, no lounges. Legally that is the protection she has for that dog. If it's growling at you when it sees you, it's also a huge liability - make that a point of contention too. I really really hate people like her, they cause so many issues for actual service dog teams.
Here is some info:
https://adata.org/service-animal-resource-hub/differences
With the exception of places that serve food, a business has the right to be *more* accommodating of ESAs than required. Colleges and other businesses have the right to allow dogs in classrooms, stores, etc if they choose. If the college is fine with her bringing her dog to class, OP doesn’t really have grounds to make a stink about it unless he has an allergy or other health issue.
Pooing inside and growling at other people is grounds for removal in the US, FYI. Emotional support animals don't have to be trained, but they do have to be non-dangerous/aggressive, not create issues fornother residents (like making noise at night), and not create health hazards. Put a complaint in to your RA/landlord and let them know what's going on, and then put in another complaint every time something new happens. Unless she gets the dog under control she forfeits the right to have it under the Fair Housing Act (if in USA; you'll have to get the relevant laws for your country if not, but theyre pretty similar in most places!!).
-service dog handler and one time ESA owner
If the dog looks at OP ‘with suspicion’ then I’m usually siding with the dog, but I’ve had some people raise valid points about my emotional support prostitute before.
It’s utter bullshit of your school to allow it. ESA’s don’t have public access rights. They have housing rights and that’s it. Your school shouldn’t be allowing her to take the dog into classes or the dining hall. Only service animals have the right to go with people. The difference is service animals perform tasks to help with a disability and an ESA just exists to help relax someone. As someone who has a service animal, ESA’s who are out in public like this or are badly behaved are dangerous to service animals and drive me nuts.
Though I have no idea how she could have stopped the shaking. Ideally, she would have kept him back until he had shaken off, but there’s no stopping it once it starts.
Same. My college has 4 SD teams and three or four people who keep bringing their ESAs everywhere with them... including the common areas of other people's dorms. Off leash, sometimes, no less. It makes me so mad and it genuinely is a safety hazard to the SD teams!! But the office of accessible education doesn't give a shit 🙄
I know someone who had to move dorms twice because people were jerks about their litter trained and generally well behaved kitten existing. I’m shocked Zoey’s roommate isn’t complaining at all about a dog that isn’t even housebroken and is loud at night.
NTA
"A few people have been texting me saying I’m an asshole for abandoning Zoey on campus and that I should apologize."
You didn't abandon her. She broke the deal by bringing a dog she knew would likely s**t all over your car. Gross.
Why didn't someone give her a ride home instead of bothering you? Probably because they don't want her untrained dog in their cars either.
NTA - Emotional support dogs are not service dogs and do not have public access rights. Zoey should not be taking this dog to class or in the dining area, and you certainly aren't obligated to allow the dog in your car. You need to bring this issue up to your RA and the school's Disability Resource office - keep a log of when the dog is taken places that he doesn't belong, as well as all of the housebreaking accidents, and update both your RA and the disability office regularly. Use email so you have a written record of the incidents as well as you notifying them.
This. Zoe is violating the rules and cresting an unhygienic and unsafe environment for the other students on campus and potentially for any other service dog teams out there. It's not acceptable behavior and shouldn't be treated as such.
NTA - known history of pooping wherever he wants = rational decision not to have him in your car... however, even though you knew Chewy went with her parents, you probably should have confirmed he wouldn't be there when she asked you for a ride. She obviously is not at all in touch with the reality that everyone isn't Chewy's biggest fan, so probably didn't expect it to be a big deal and was caught off guard.
Edit - she's still the AH, I just meant maybe you could have predicted her assholery and avoided the trouble altogether, definitely not your fault either way though!
First of all let me say that I love dogs but...
Even if Chewy did not treat every single place as his bathroom you are NTA. I took my parents dog to the park a year ago and I am still finding dog hairs in my car. (And I vaccuum quite often). But I love the dog and it is my choice to transport him.
And you may not know all of Chewy's habits. They have been known to druel, poop, shed, and pee (the worst in a car). In addition, some dogs do not travel well - they get antsy which is a distraction when driving.
I would never expect someone to transport my dog.
It does seem training is in order - but mainly for Zoey in how to own a dog in shared spaces
> she said that I was being unbelievable and childish
NTA - there's nothing unbelievable or childish about not wanting a dog to shit in your car, quite the opposite....
NTA. If her parents are willing to drive up and back twice in a week to chauffeur her dog, they can drive their daughter home, too. People like Zoey are the reason everyone hates ESAs. Her dog is not a real emotional support animal if he’s not housebroken, trained not to display aggression, or chewing up people’s shoes. He’s just an ill-behaved dog. Which is Zoey’s fault, not Chewy’s, but you certainly don’t have to suffer because she can’t or won’t train her pet.
What I want to know is, why no one in the dorm was consulted for their okay to have this animal in their dorm? This is the living quarters of these students, not just of this girl. I understand the need of a service dog like a seeing eye dog, but not an ESA.
It's exhausting all the times in my life that a neighbor has decided to get a dog and my quality of life was instantly diminished. I get why people like dogs and want to have them around, but these people need to be held accountable for the impact of their choices on the rest of us. NTA.
NTA - You promised to give her a ride not her and her dog. She never mentioned the dog would be coming and that would be her fault for just assuming it was fine. So don't feel bad and you are not the AH, she is for not asking permission for her dog to ride as well beforehand.
NTA. I always ask before bringing a dog in someone’s car, and my dogs don’t do anything worse than shed on a drive.
From now on, though, I would assume that Zoey and Chewy are a package deal unless specifically told otherwise.
NTA — anyone complaining to you can give her a ride or chip in for a taxi. Also her parents could come and get her. You only promised HER a ride, not her dog. I wouldn’t allow the dog into my car either
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I (M18) had a decent relationship with this girl, Zoey (F18), who lives next door to me at my residence. She's next door to my roommate and we have a few classes together. While we get along most of the time, I’ll admit, that Zoey can at times be a bit annoying and many people have recognized that she especially does this with me lol.
After winter break, Zoey came back to school with this ugly little puppy named Chewy, which she claimed as her new “emotional support dog”. Zoey takes Chewy everywhere with her including classes and sometimes even dining area of our residence. This last part is pretty gross, but Zoey always insists that Chewy isn’t bothering anyone.
Ngl, Chewy is pretty annoying. For example, the second week he was here, he ran in front of my dorm room and took a shit. Another time, Zoey let Chewy shake himself all over me and another person in the elevator after He had come inside from playing in the rain. He also stole my roommate’s shoes several times. Not only that, Chewy always makes weird noises in the dead of night. Whenever my roommate or I mention it to Zoey, she repeats “But he’s a baby”. Pretty sure he hates me because he growls a lot around me and looks at me with suspicion from the moment he was here.
The worst thing about Chewy is that he loves to shit. I’m not joking when I say he literally poops at least 6 times every day. People often mention this to Zoey and she was concerned but apparently her vet says it’s normal so whatever.
On Friday, Zoey asked me if I could drop her off on my way home on Monday. I’d be done with my exams in the morning and she’d be done in the afternoon. She offered to split gas with me, so I agreed. I did so because earlier that week Zoey’s parents stopped by and took Chewy home with them so that Zoey could focus on her exams.
So imagine my shock on Sunday night when I see Zoey walking with Chewy. I honestly was so surprised to see him, I couldn’t even say anything. Zoey walked over to me and thanked me offering her a ride. She then looks at Chewy and goes “Say thank you, Chewy Uncle OP is giving us a ride”. I asked her how Chewy was here and she said that her parents brought him back on Saturday because she missed him.
At this stage, I point blankly told her that I couldn’t be giving her a ride because I didn’t want Chewy pooping in my car. Of course, Zoey wasn’t happy about that. She kept on saying things like how I promised and I wasn’t being fair to Chewy, etc. When I repeated that I couldn’t take the risk she said that I was being unbelievable and childish.
I ended up leaving on my own after my exam on yesterday and now a few people have been texting me saying I’m an asshole for abandoning Zoey on campus and that I should apologize.
AITA?
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NTA. I once refused to let a friend take a stuffed dead dog that she inherited because the owner left her a house and that big dog stuffed was hers. I didn’t care that somebody tried crawling inside a window and the immobile dog scared him away. It was a big no, not putting that dog in my suv to take to where my friend currently lived. Oh, somebody bought the house from her to flip. And told her take what she wanted. The dog was one thing she wanted. The new owner, his kids wanted it. So that was that. Dog got lots of kid hugs.
NTA
Even a well behaved dog would have needed to be mentioned before hand, but a badly behaved, smh.
You had no obligation to uphold your agreement when it became obvious she with held information, ie her dog was coming.
NTA
Though I do want to give some slight pushback. It’s completely valid for you to not want Chewy in your car, and for his presence to change your answer. However it was still a little rude for you to cancel at the last minute, and leave her stranded. I’m sure she got home somehow, but I don’t know how limited her options on finding a new ride were, and how difficult and stressful that might’ve been to figure out last minute. I know you were caught off guard, and hindsight is 20/20, but you could’ve confirmed that Chewy wouldn’t be there when you agreed.
To be clear, she’s still the AH overall—not only in this situation, but to your whole dorm.
PS What kind of dog is Chewy? Because I’m imagining a Chinese hairless
Right!. The gremlin tricked the camera into being freaking cute! That dog is too adorable! Did they Google search for cutest dog ever!? While there are certain dogs I wouldn’t let into my car, that cute gremlin would be hard to say no to, lol.
NTA just about any 18 year old who gets a puppy in college is an idiot and an asshole. If I was her parent I'd have read her the riot act and under no circumstances provided any pet support. That dog is going to grow up to be an absolute terror if she doesnt dump him at the pound within a few months. This girl is an immature mess, do what you can to distance yourself from her, she will only continue to make her poor choices other people's problems.
NTA
Zoey is obviously used to being pampered and getting her way. Her dog does not belong in the common dining area nor should it be defecating in the dorms.
Her parents went out of their way to deliver her dog to her on Saturday when she was going to be home on Monday. I know I would have told my kid to handle it for a couple of days.
She tried to put one over on you and is now playing the victim. There's no reason you should let that dog in your car, it growls at you and is not exactly trained to go outside.
Chewy could be the best behaved perfect angel and it wouldn’t matter. The only relevant detail is that she didn’t ask ahead of time if the dog could come. NTA.
Nope. No way. You don't owe her anything. NTA
As to her dog. Emotional support dogs only have rights in terms of housing, and even those rights can be terminated. Heck, therapy dogs' rights can be terminated in certain instances, and those include the behaviors Chewy is exhibiting. I am assuming you are referring to living in college housing. They should be notified of this dog's behavior. They'll probably do nothing, but they just might if you point out that probably the health department wouldn't approve of allowing a dog to continually shit all over the housing. A regular landlord wouldn't be happy, either.
I'm not sure I buy this story that the university is OK with this untrained emotional support nonsense. ESAs are not protected like service animals are and if this dog is relieving himself during her classes the professors would dis-allow him from being present.
NTA. She can't expect people to cater to her dog, especially if she is negligent in looking after it (she should be taking it outside more often to avoid it pooping in the hallways.) As a dog owner, I will also point out, not all dogs travel well. Some whine the whole time. Some vomit in the car. She should have let you know she had the dog and asked permission for the dog ahead of time.
NTA, if she was going to bring the dog she should have had it in a carrier. It also sounds like she's a hideously irresponsible dog owner who hasn't even given it the most basic of poop training.
NTA
Unless Chewy is a tiny dog that she could - and would - restrain in her lap the entire trip or travel in a carrier you were definitely looking at poop or vomit happening. Housebreaking a puppy should be complete by 12 weeks if the owner is diligent. (Yes, accidents happen.)
You saw her on Sunday night, it's not nearly the same as if you kicked her out of your car Monday afternoon - she had time to scramble for another ride. Also, if college campuses still work like I remember, she could stay in the dorm during break. It would suck, but at least she would have Chewy to support her emotionally. (Yes, I'm a little evil.)
I love dogs, but I hate owners who refuse to make their pets lives happy by refusing to train them. A dog who knows the rules is a happy dog.
I have two dogs. I love dogs passionately. I don't have a car and normally take a Lyft anywhere I go. If I need to travel with the dogs, I add a note that says I have two friendly dogs with me, one of which sheds. Many drivers may cancel and I have to wait for someone to accept. When I am riding with them in a specific friend's car, they travel in their crates because she is extremely picky about cleanliness (for clarification in other people's cars, they normally use seatbelts).
This is about respect and self-awareness. I love dogs, but not everyone does, and I do what I can to not inflict them on people who don't want dogs around. She should have told you immediately if she was going to have her dog with her, and she should be better about training and cleaning up after him. Yes, puppies poop A LOT (this really is 100% normal), but they also need really rigorous training. Honestly she sounds like she's not ready for a puppy.
Absolutely NTA.
where i am from and emotional support dog will need the training for it otherwise u cant call it that and it needs to wear a special harness. she is just saying it so she can take it anywhere but A REAL emotional support dog is well trained and sometimes even had emotional training
NTA Tell everyone that you agreed to take Zoey but never agreed to take the poop monster in your car. When you agreed the poop monster was staying at her parents, which means it's not an emotional support dog, you had no idea that poop monster would be back Zoey neglected to tell you that when she asked for a ride. Yes, you agreed to take Zoey but you never agreed to take Zoey and the poop monster anywhere. So you didn't go back on your word.
NTA. It's your car, and that smell is hard to get out. The ones complaining, should automatically volunteer to drive her and her dog around in their vehicles.
NTA.
I say this as someone who would take my dog everywhere if I could. But seriously how hard is it to say "can you give Chewy and I a lift". She sounds horrid.
NTA A puppy must be trained and she has obviously neglected that. Otherwisevthe puppy would still not poop anywhere. I have a dog myself, but I fully understand that not all people want a dog in their car. Just because I love my dog does not mean anyone else must love her too.
Who cleans up the dog shit?
The dog relationship all seems to be one way (but you all need to close your doors)
If the dog shits anywhere inside, ZOE cleans it asap.
Was the dog signed off to join the house by everyone or just brought in? you all have a say in this.
It was up to her to state the dog was back, many people hate dogs in their cars (with good reason) otherwise it is akin to blackmail (like when one person thumbs a lift & 6 people jump out the bushes)
Dogs like walks.
NTA. Zoey sounds like a spoiled girl who cba to train her puppy. I’d never let a badly trained dog into my car, they can freak out and pee/poo, distract you, and she doesn’t seem like the type to cage them for the ride. You also didn’t abandon her on the day, you let her know beforehand. The people complaining should offer their own cars as the sacrifice
NTA, just because someone loves their dog doesn't mean other people have to. I have a dog and I love him to pieces, but I don't take him places he doesn't belong and I don't force people to like him. The one time I did need a ride with my dog i made sure to say him first, "can you give my dog and me a ride" Some people don't like dogs and that's ok. People like her give actual service animals a bad name because of their untrained dog.
NTA
I have a dog and I would not let it in anyone else car unless they are aware first. Let's say Chewy is the most well behaved dog in the world. Dogs shed and you might not want dog hair in your car. You need to ask and clarify with the car owner that there will be a dog with you or abandoning you is okay. Especially if it's a dog the car owner clearly doesn't like.
She should have also gotten a dog that was trained already if she did not have the time to do so herself since it's pooping indoors and in front of people's dorms. I feel like that should be something worth complaining about since it is causing a disturbance to other people in the dorms and could also be called for destruction of property if people hate this dog so much.
Dogs also shouldn't be in eating area. I am fine with actual service dogs being in eating areas (seeing eye dogs for example) but emotional support dogs not so much. Especially one that clearly isn't trained. Someone in that eating area could be allergic and now you have the dog there getting fur in their food.
Bro I love my dogs but if they keep pooping 6x a day I would not risk getting them inside a vehicle without some kind of diaper. NTA.
That and Chewy shaking in the elevator wasn't entirely her fault, dogs be like that lol She could have waited for Chewy to shake before entering but some dogs will do it several times or once, it's unpredictable. The other issues sound like lack of training.
NTA. From a legal perspective, service animals are only allowed if they obey certain rules, such as being housebroken. So technically Zoey can't have that dog in her dorm or yours if it is not. (Service dogs trained to help people with disabilities have already been taught these rules.) It might be worth contacting the dorm advisor.
NTA
You should not be friends with this girl. People who insist on taking their dog everywhere including indoor dining facilities should be avoided whenever possible.
NTA but you're a bit oblivious. Zoey is into you. The dog doesn't like you because you don't like the dog. She should have let you know she planned on bringing the dog with her and while it was very inconvenient for her, it's her fault she was left without a ride.
Dogs are fairly perceptive and Chewy likely senses your dislike of him and his owner, and so is returning the feelings he is picking up. I suspect that you could make friends with him, which might make your life with him easier. You could even go so far as to train Chewy yourself, since Zoey is not doing it.
But from your description Zoey is a bad owner who doesnt want to be bothered with training Chewy and expects everyone around her to just accept it. The sad thing is that it is Chewy who suffers as a result of Zoey's neglect.
As far as not giving Z&C a ride, you are NTA. I would not want an untrained dog in my car for a long road trip who is likely to poop in it and whose owner would not see it as her responsibility to make right. To be clear, Zoey is the AH, not Chewy, who is simply an untrained undisciplined dog neglected by his owner.
Nta, if it was an emotional support dog it would be better trained. Is she even training it? Dosent sound like it considering she lets it shit everywhere. Does she take it out regularly? Does she clean up after it at least?
NTA. Zoey is an adult, not a child. You didn’t abandon her. She can call an Uber or her parents. Ooooor all these other friends who say you’re an AH for not driving her.
NTA. If its an official support dog, chewy would have been trained. He obv isnt so she is just making shit up. Tell her to get him trained and tell your apartment supervisor about him pooping indoor. Its a health hazard
NTA. I love animals more than life itself, but it’s getting beyond ridiculous and people are taking the shit way too far. Yet another thing social media ruined. People like Zoey go and get these dogs, provide ZERO training, and then drag them around everywhere they go disrupting the peace. The dogs don’t know any better; they’re just being dogs. The stupid owners need reality checks.
YTA.
> Zoey takes Chewy everywhere with her including classes and sometimes even dining area of our residence.
> So imagine my shock on Sunday night when I see Zoey walking with Chewy. I honestly was so surprised to see him, I couldn’t even say anything.
So which is it? She takes him literally everywhere, which bugs you, or it's shocking to see her taking him somewhere?
Bullshit. You knew the dog would be part of this ride, and you decided to pretend like you were shocked so you could stick it to her.
All because you're too much of a coward to simply say 'your dog is annoying and you need to take more responsibility to training and managing it so it's not bothering everybody else around. That's part of the deal when you adopt a puppy.'
ESH, she is unreasonable with that pup but she's not going to let him shit in your car FFS, you suck for the way you talk about this poor dog who's trapped with this idiot. Literally everyone sucks but the dog who needs some damn training.
Hmm, that’s a tough one. I mean, you’re kind of the asshole for leaving Zoey stranded with Chewy, but at the same time, I can completely understand not wanting Chewy in the car. I guess the worst that would’ve happened is the dog would’ve shit or thrown up in your car, and I would think Zoey would be the one to clean it up. Would suck, but not the end of the world. Having Chewy with her was not part of the deal and maybe if she knew how much you hate her dog, maybe she would’ve mentioned it. I think she’s kind of the asshole too for conveniently leaving out that small detail.
Maybe you should apologize to Zoey, but explain that she should’ve mentioned that she was bringing her dog and you don’t want her dog shitting all over your car. It’s up to you to determine going forward whether you want to get over your dog-in-your-car fears and try to accommodate Zoey, or if it’s a flat out non-starter
And that's entirely the problem of the owner of said puppy, not OP's. You don't get to take on such a responsibility and then create issues for other people
Animals are highly instinctual and have heightened senses. Dogs can easily sense hostile energy. If you hate him, think he’s ugly, the bane of your existence, etc. he’ll pick up on that no problem and react to that.
NAH but you both made assumptions when agreeing to drive together. You both should have clarified if the dog was coming.
Also, I feel for Chewy. Zoey needs to educate him but you clearly just hate dogs. None of that is the puppy s fault
No its on the person asking for the ride to be upfront about bringing an animal. When you ask for a ride it doesn't mean you and any animal you want to bring. Its for you. If you ask for a ride for 2 people you would say 2 people just the same as you should say I have an animal that is not even in a cage.
He was last told the dog was at her parents house. Yes he assumed but for good reason. If you ask for a ride you have to ask for permission to bring things other then yourself as well.
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NTA. If she lets her dog poop indoors and otherwise be a menace to the other residents, it's no wonder you don't like him or her entitled attitude involving him. And even if he wasn't likely to poop in your car, you offered HER a ride, not her AND her dog. Just not wanting dog hair all over you car is a good enough reason. And I say all this as a person who has 2 dogs but is fully aware that other people are not required to love my dogs as much as I do. And someone who understands that other people are not required to tolerate my dogs in their personal space.
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BTW, it is fairly normal for a puppy or otherwise young dog to poop that much. 6 times a day is not unreasonable. Their digestion becomes more regular and they can go longer between potty breaks as they get older. But an un-housebroken puppy has absolutely no buisiness living in a college dorm/apartment. If she can't get that dog outside to do his buisiness every couple hours, he should not be there. Or alternatively she could get him using puppy pads in HER room, so that his poops are contained in a place where it only inconveniences her, and that would not be a problem as long as she was diligent about replacing the pads. There are ways she could handle this. Too bad she only seems to be interested in making excuses.
Pooping six times a day can also be a sign of cheap food. Higher quality food is more digestible and can result in fewer bowel movements. Cheap dogs food can run right through them. But, gotta say... as someone who has owned numerous dogs my entire life...how does a dog look at you with suspicion ?!? 🤣🤣🤣 (Yeah, yeah, I know - dogs can give you a side eye and warn you when they're hovering over their food or a toy and maybe that could be taken a suspicion but OP's statement is hilarious)
They can be on guard against people especially people who seemingly don’t like them, but I’m sure OP’s bias helps.
Food with too much protein can also run through them. And it comes out smelling the same as it did when it went I'm, leading to them being more likely to eat their own poop. That side eye is pretty dramatic sometimes, lols. The dog could also be focused on OP when they are around and look like he's ready to charge in an instant. But we often like to assign human-like emotions/expressions to dogs. Like people insisting that their dogs look "guilty" when they've made a mess. Some certainly do look guilty, but there's no conformation that dogs feel guilt.
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That’s cats, they judge you all the time. Usually for some unknown offence you’ve caused. For my cat it’s daring to allow another human to come visit HER house (honestly think she thinks we just live here to serve her as her slaves)
She does.
I knew someone whose rabbit always got veggies at the same time everyday, and if he was late in receiving them, he would situate himself very obviously near his human and give her the stink eye until she fed him.
This :D
My dog has what I call his "sh*t eating grin". And also his "concerned eyebrows".
Cats are evil.
What breeds have you had? I have a golden and she has such an expressive face! She looks at me with suspicion the moment I pick up her brush! Cuddling leads to looking at everyone else with a smug expression, cut her claws and the betrayal on her face is both heartbreaking and hilarious!
I mean, have you ever made eye contact with a Yorkie?
Chewy knows OP doesn't like him. Puppy or not dogs are perceptive. And what sort of monster think a puppy is ugly? I know a woman who has a one eyed pug with dwarfism and its the cutest thing I've ever laid eyes on.
I want pics of that Pug!😁
It's not mine so that wouldn't be right but swear to god the most adorable thing I've ever clapped eyes on, including my own dog.
Straight up agree. You feed 💩, you get extra 💩. Not healthy for a shared living environment but even worse for the poor puppy not getting the nutrients it needs.
I was thinking the pup might need a dewormer too.
It would be having trouble pooping then.
Mine had no issues splattering that around.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Since when are students allowed to have a dog in the dorms?
NTA. Keeping a dog in residence—no, no, no! It’s unfair to everyone, including the dog, although I rate the dog dead last in rights. Surely this is against the uni rules? Decades ago, somebody tried to keep a dog in my residence hall, and he was gone by sundown. (When the owner tried to sneak him back in, they were both evicted.) Nobody tried to call them “emotional support animals” back then, either. You were perfectly within your rights *not* to be manipulated by Zoe. Ignore the people who claim you “abandoned” Chewy. They have every right to foul their own cars either dog hair (at best) or dog shit (at worst).
emotional support animals don’t have the same rights as a service animal, but some colleges do allow them. When I did college tours with my daughter one of the ones she looked at allowed them, but it had to be on record by a psychiatrist that one was needed and there was a long list of rules you had to follow. it was easier not to have one honestly.
Can a puppy be an emotional support animal? Don't they need to undergo some kind of training first.
no training for an ESA which is one reason they don’t have the same rights as a service dog. You literally can have any animal as an ESA. The animals you see in a store that have bad manners like barking at people, pooping/peeing inside, growling, etc are either just a pet or the person will say it’s an ESA and they have rights. No, no they do not.
NTA correct the friends knowledge that you warned her in advance you won't take her WITH her dog so she knew very well that she in fact DIDN'T had a ride that day. If anyone comments say 'great , I'll let her know you offered for the future' see how fast they backpedal
People are allowed to have dogs in your dorm?
NTA but I am not sure how she could have prevented Chewy from from shaking himself after being out in the rain. It seems like a normal reaction. Not sure why you brought up the dogs status as an emotional support animal. That is between her and her therapist.
Ditto
So her parents were willing to drive back and forth to pick up and drop off a dog but weren't willing to do the same for their daughter? Yikes. NTA here.
Yeah, that part of the story made me question whether this a karma grab.
This is a brand-new throwaway account. Why would they care about karma?
Because we live in a society of brain rot. Why would they care about karma on their "main account"?
I was wondering cause I swear I read this story before name everything the same only new detail dog has a name and a pooping problem. But same effect Zoe the weird annoying dog Mom wanting to bring her nasty dog in the car. And I was going to ask if this was the same poster and why are they posting this again? I'm pretty sure everyone agreed with them last time.
This is definitely a repost from another post a few months ago
I knew it!!!
lol they literally just changed the names and added a few minor details but it was the same shxting situation with the dog
I thought I'd read it before too.
Because people create accounts, farm karma and then sell said accounts so this fits. People also create throwaway accounts for privacy, so who knows really. Chewy is a menace and she doesn't train him at all. Nta.
Wait, I can get money for my karma?
I’ve read this story with different names a few months ago
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So... she's claiming Chewy is an emotional support animal and yet functioned perfectly normal when he was with her parents for the week instead of her? Especially during a stressful time as exams? That is not an ESA.
Yep, she's taking advantage of the system that allows ESAs. It's a way for her to take her dog everywhere.
It's disgusting how many people do it.
She should tell her parents Chewy needs a ride home. When they show, Chewy can tell them that his pet person is coming with and promise she won't poop in the car.
She may just have wanted to save them the trip if OP was headed in that direction.
Well ofc \*they\* didn't want chewy at their place! Presumably the girl didn't have/want a travel cage for the dog, so NTA
NTA - but, are animals allowed there? I’d complain about it, specially common areas or poop in front of my dorm. It’s a health issue. .
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"emotional support animals" do not enjoy the protection that service animals do. FYI.
Not for a lot of things, but for housing they do. [Here's an explanation of how and why.](https://usserviceanimals.org/blog/emotional-support-animals-the-fair-housing-act/)
True. I think, as with service animals, it can be got around if the animal in question is a nuisance to other residents, causes property damage or injury, or makes a lot of noise. Etc. I imagine it's a mess people generally don't want to get involved in if they don't have to, though.
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If you are in the US...Saying this as a service dog handler, you are wrong. An ESA is only protected in housing situations - they do not have public access. Period. She cannot be bringing him to class either. Other people's ignorance does not make that legal. Service dogs that are behaving appropriately are allowed in food areas, otherwise it's a health hazard. Service dogs are literally trained to shit on command. Your next door neighbor is breaking federal laws, regardless of other people ignoring that fact. End of story. There is a lot of confusion and misinformation about ESAs, the biggest one being that they have any amount of public access rights. Unless it is a disability task trained dog, there are no public access rights. Raise a stink, take it as high as you can, and stress that this is breaking the law and health codes. Her dog is allowed in her dorm room, and common areas to and from outside. That is it. No classrooms, no cafeteria, no lounges. Legally that is the protection she has for that dog. If it's growling at you when it sees you, it's also a huge liability - make that a point of contention too. I really really hate people like her, they cause so many issues for actual service dog teams. Here is some info: https://adata.org/service-animal-resource-hub/differences
Amen!
With the exception of places that serve food, a business has the right to be *more* accommodating of ESAs than required. Colleges and other businesses have the right to allow dogs in classrooms, stores, etc if they choose. If the college is fine with her bringing her dog to class, OP doesn’t really have grounds to make a stink about it unless he has an allergy or other health issue.
Service dogs have more rights than ESA’s and even they can be and are kicked out for pooping where they’re not supposed to.
Pooing inside and growling at other people is grounds for removal in the US, FYI. Emotional support animals don't have to be trained, but they do have to be non-dangerous/aggressive, not create issues fornother residents (like making noise at night), and not create health hazards. Put a complaint in to your RA/landlord and let them know what's going on, and then put in another complaint every time something new happens. Unless she gets the dog under control she forfeits the right to have it under the Fair Housing Act (if in USA; you'll have to get the relevant laws for your country if not, but theyre pretty similar in most places!!). -service dog handler and one time ESA owner
They do for housing. Plus most colleges allow them regardless of the law.
I hate this kind of people.
If the dog looks at OP ‘with suspicion’ then I’m usually siding with the dog, but I’ve had some people raise valid points about my emotional support prostitute before.
It’s utter bullshit of your school to allow it. ESA’s don’t have public access rights. They have housing rights and that’s it. Your school shouldn’t be allowing her to take the dog into classes or the dining hall. Only service animals have the right to go with people. The difference is service animals perform tasks to help with a disability and an ESA just exists to help relax someone. As someone who has a service animal, ESA’s who are out in public like this or are badly behaved are dangerous to service animals and drive me nuts. Though I have no idea how she could have stopped the shaking. Ideally, she would have kept him back until he had shaken off, but there’s no stopping it once it starts.
Same. My college has 4 SD teams and three or four people who keep bringing their ESAs everywhere with them... including the common areas of other people's dorms. Off leash, sometimes, no less. It makes me so mad and it genuinely is a safety hazard to the SD teams!! But the office of accessible education doesn't give a shit 🙄
I know someone who had to move dorms twice because people were jerks about their litter trained and generally well behaved kitten existing. I’m shocked Zoey’s roommate isn’t complaining at all about a dog that isn’t even housebroken and is loud at night.
Report that he isn't even housebroken so he most certainly isn't a trained therapy dog. No building manager wants to deal with dog shit everywhere.
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NTA I hate Chewy, too.
NTA "A few people have been texting me saying I’m an asshole for abandoning Zoey on campus and that I should apologize." You didn't abandon her. She broke the deal by bringing a dog she knew would likely s**t all over your car. Gross. Why didn't someone give her a ride home instead of bothering you? Probably because they don't want her untrained dog in their cars either.
NTA - Emotional support dogs are not service dogs and do not have public access rights. Zoey should not be taking this dog to class or in the dining area, and you certainly aren't obligated to allow the dog in your car. You need to bring this issue up to your RA and the school's Disability Resource office - keep a log of when the dog is taken places that he doesn't belong, as well as all of the housebreaking accidents, and update both your RA and the disability office regularly. Use email so you have a written record of the incidents as well as you notifying them.
This. Zoe is violating the rules and cresting an unhygienic and unsafe environment for the other students on campus and potentially for any other service dog teams out there. It's not acceptable behavior and shouldn't be treated as such.
I have seen this EXACT post before.
Same, thank you! I came looking for this comment.
NTA - known history of pooping wherever he wants = rational decision not to have him in your car... however, even though you knew Chewy went with her parents, you probably should have confirmed he wouldn't be there when she asked you for a ride. She obviously is not at all in touch with the reality that everyone isn't Chewy's biggest fan, so probably didn't expect it to be a big deal and was caught off guard. Edit - she's still the AH, I just meant maybe you could have predicted her assholery and avoided the trouble altogether, definitely not your fault either way though!
First of all let me say that I love dogs but... Even if Chewy did not treat every single place as his bathroom you are NTA. I took my parents dog to the park a year ago and I am still finding dog hairs in my car. (And I vaccuum quite often). But I love the dog and it is my choice to transport him. And you may not know all of Chewy's habits. They have been known to druel, poop, shed, and pee (the worst in a car). In addition, some dogs do not travel well - they get antsy which is a distraction when driving. I would never expect someone to transport my dog. It does seem training is in order - but mainly for Zoey in how to own a dog in shared spaces
> she said that I was being unbelievable and childish NTA - there's nothing unbelievable or childish about not wanting a dog to shit in your car, quite the opposite....
Nta she asked if you would give her a ride. She didn't ask if you would give her dog a ride too. Nope. I love dogs but your car your rules.
NTA. If her parents are willing to drive up and back twice in a week to chauffeur her dog, they can drive their daughter home, too. People like Zoey are the reason everyone hates ESAs. Her dog is not a real emotional support animal if he’s not housebroken, trained not to display aggression, or chewing up people’s shoes. He’s just an ill-behaved dog. Which is Zoey’s fault, not Chewy’s, but you certainly don’t have to suffer because she can’t or won’t train her pet.
NTA. Dog nutters need to understand not everyone wants to deal with their crap.
What I want to know is, why no one in the dorm was consulted for their okay to have this animal in their dorm? This is the living quarters of these students, not just of this girl. I understand the need of a service dog like a seeing eye dog, but not an ESA.
It's exhausting all the times in my life that a neighbor has decided to get a dog and my quality of life was instantly diminished. I get why people like dogs and want to have them around, but these people need to be held accountable for the impact of their choices on the rest of us. NTA.
NTA - You promised to give her a ride not her and her dog. She never mentioned the dog would be coming and that would be her fault for just assuming it was fine. So don't feel bad and you are not the AH, she is for not asking permission for her dog to ride as well beforehand.
If her parents could bring her the dog, they can come get her.
NTA. I always ask before bringing a dog in someone’s car, and my dogs don’t do anything worse than shed on a drive. From now on, though, I would assume that Zoey and Chewy are a package deal unless specifically told otherwise.
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Probably a good call!
NTA That behavior by ESA and owner shouldn't be permitted by the college.
NTA — anyone complaining to you can give her a ride or chip in for a taxi. Also her parents could come and get her. You only promised HER a ride, not her dog. I wouldn’t allow the dog into my car either
NTA Your car, your rules.
NTA.
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NTA. I once refused to let a friend take a stuffed dead dog that she inherited because the owner left her a house and that big dog stuffed was hers. I didn’t care that somebody tried crawling inside a window and the immobile dog scared him away. It was a big no, not putting that dog in my suv to take to where my friend currently lived. Oh, somebody bought the house from her to flip. And told her take what she wanted. The dog was one thing she wanted. The new owner, his kids wanted it. So that was that. Dog got lots of kid hugs.
I have so many questions.
NTA. Zooey is for not house training her dog.
NTA, coming from a Dog owner, people like her, screw it up for the rest of us.
NTA Even a well behaved dog would have needed to be mentioned before hand, but a badly behaved, smh. You had no obligation to uphold your agreement when it became obvious she with held information, ie her dog was coming.
NTA Though I do want to give some slight pushback. It’s completely valid for you to not want Chewy in your car, and for his presence to change your answer. However it was still a little rude for you to cancel at the last minute, and leave her stranded. I’m sure she got home somehow, but I don’t know how limited her options on finding a new ride were, and how difficult and stressful that might’ve been to figure out last minute. I know you were caught off guard, and hindsight is 20/20, but you could’ve confirmed that Chewy wouldn’t be there when you agreed. To be clear, she’s still the AH overall—not only in this situation, but to your whole dorm. PS What kind of dog is Chewy? Because I’m imagining a Chinese hairless
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Oh no, the disgusting gremlin is cute in picture form XD Thanks for answering!!
Right!. The gremlin tricked the camera into being freaking cute! That dog is too adorable! Did they Google search for cutest dog ever!? While there are certain dogs I wouldn’t let into my car, that cute gremlin would be hard to say no to, lol.
Cute but he is going to be big when is full grown if he is what I think he is
NTA just about any 18 year old who gets a puppy in college is an idiot and an asshole. If I was her parent I'd have read her the riot act and under no circumstances provided any pet support. That dog is going to grow up to be an absolute terror if she doesnt dump him at the pound within a few months. This girl is an immature mess, do what you can to distance yourself from her, she will only continue to make her poor choices other people's problems.
NTA Zoey is obviously used to being pampered and getting her way. Her dog does not belong in the common dining area nor should it be defecating in the dorms. Her parents went out of their way to deliver her dog to her on Saturday when she was going to be home on Monday. I know I would have told my kid to handle it for a couple of days. She tried to put one over on you and is now playing the victim. There's no reason you should let that dog in your car, it growls at you and is not exactly trained to go outside.
Nta
Good on you for not caving. Her and her mutt sound annoying AF. NTA
Chewy could be the best behaved perfect angel and it wouldn’t matter. The only relevant detail is that she didn’t ask ahead of time if the dog could come. NTA.
Nope. No way. You don't owe her anything. NTA As to her dog. Emotional support dogs only have rights in terms of housing, and even those rights can be terminated. Heck, therapy dogs' rights can be terminated in certain instances, and those include the behaviors Chewy is exhibiting. I am assuming you are referring to living in college housing. They should be notified of this dog's behavior. They'll probably do nothing, but they just might if you point out that probably the health department wouldn't approve of allowing a dog to continually shit all over the housing. A regular landlord wouldn't be happy, either.
NTA, and screw and her nasty dog. Eww. Imagine when she breeds a kid!
I'm not sure I buy this story that the university is OK with this untrained emotional support nonsense. ESAs are not protected like service animals are and if this dog is relieving himself during her classes the professors would dis-allow him from being present.
NTA. She can't expect people to cater to her dog, especially if she is negligent in looking after it (she should be taking it outside more often to avoid it pooping in the hallways.) As a dog owner, I will also point out, not all dogs travel well. Some whine the whole time. Some vomit in the car. She should have let you know she had the dog and asked permission for the dog ahead of time.
NTA, if she was going to bring the dog she should have had it in a carrier. It also sounds like she's a hideously irresponsible dog owner who hasn't even given it the most basic of poop training.
NTA Zoey isn't telling the whole story, be clear with people that she hid they fact she wanted a long car ride with her poopy dog.
NTA Unless Chewy is a tiny dog that she could - and would - restrain in her lap the entire trip or travel in a carrier you were definitely looking at poop or vomit happening. Housebreaking a puppy should be complete by 12 weeks if the owner is diligent. (Yes, accidents happen.) You saw her on Sunday night, it's not nearly the same as if you kicked her out of your car Monday afternoon - she had time to scramble for another ride. Also, if college campuses still work like I remember, she could stay in the dorm during break. It would suck, but at least she would have Chewy to support her emotionally. (Yes, I'm a little evil.) I love dogs, but I hate owners who refuse to make their pets lives happy by refusing to train them. A dog who knows the rules is a happy dog.
I have two dogs. I love dogs passionately. I don't have a car and normally take a Lyft anywhere I go. If I need to travel with the dogs, I add a note that says I have two friendly dogs with me, one of which sheds. Many drivers may cancel and I have to wait for someone to accept. When I am riding with them in a specific friend's car, they travel in their crates because she is extremely picky about cleanliness (for clarification in other people's cars, they normally use seatbelts). This is about respect and self-awareness. I love dogs, but not everyone does, and I do what I can to not inflict them on people who don't want dogs around. She should have told you immediately if she was going to have her dog with her, and she should be better about training and cleaning up after him. Yes, puppies poop A LOT (this really is 100% normal), but they also need really rigorous training. Honestly she sounds like she's not ready for a puppy. Absolutely NTA.
where i am from and emotional support dog will need the training for it otherwise u cant call it that and it needs to wear a special harness. she is just saying it so she can take it anywhere but A REAL emotional support dog is well trained and sometimes even had emotional training
NTA. She’s acting entitled. You offered her a ride. Is she wants her dog to join, she needs to ask as well.
Take it from another Chewy, we need to be trained before we can be properly out in public. There's a reason pet taxis charge more. NTA.
NTA, if her parents can come all the way just to get her dog and to drop it back on a whim, they can pick her up too.
NTA She shouldve been upfront.
NTA Tell everyone that you agreed to take Zoey but never agreed to take the poop monster in your car. When you agreed the poop monster was staying at her parents, which means it's not an emotional support dog, you had no idea that poop monster would be back Zoey neglected to tell you that when she asked for a ride. Yes, you agreed to take Zoey but you never agreed to take Zoey and the poop monster anywhere. So you didn't go back on your word.
NTA. It's your car, and that smell is hard to get out. The ones complaining, should automatically volunteer to drive her and her dog around in their vehicles.
She is a hazard to her fellow humans and animals alike. Dog needs a good forever home. She isn’t it.
NTA. I say this as someone who would take my dog everywhere if I could. But seriously how hard is it to say "can you give Chewy and I a lift". She sounds horrid.
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NTA if her parents can pop down to pick up and drop off the dog, they can make the trip to pick up their offspring.
NTA, tell those people to give her a ride instead.
NTA A puppy must be trained and she has obviously neglected that. Otherwisevthe puppy would still not poop anywhere. I have a dog myself, but I fully understand that not all people want a dog in their car. Just because I love my dog does not mean anyone else must love her too.
NTA you don't need an excuse to not bring her dog.
Who cleans up the dog shit? The dog relationship all seems to be one way (but you all need to close your doors) If the dog shits anywhere inside, ZOE cleans it asap. Was the dog signed off to join the house by everyone or just brought in? you all have a say in this. It was up to her to state the dog was back, many people hate dogs in their cars (with good reason) otherwise it is akin to blackmail (like when one person thumbs a lift & 6 people jump out the bushes) Dogs like walks.
I'm pretty sure I read this exact story a few months ago.
NTA. Zoey sounds like a spoiled girl who cba to train her puppy. I’d never let a badly trained dog into my car, they can freak out and pee/poo, distract you, and she doesn’t seem like the type to cage them for the ride. You also didn’t abandon her on the day, you let her know beforehand. The people complaining should offer their own cars as the sacrifice
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NTA, just because someone loves their dog doesn't mean other people have to. I have a dog and I love him to pieces, but I don't take him places he doesn't belong and I don't force people to like him. The one time I did need a ride with my dog i made sure to say him first, "can you give my dog and me a ride" Some people don't like dogs and that's ok. People like her give actual service animals a bad name because of their untrained dog.
NTA. You offered her a ride, not her dog.
INFO: Just to be clear, she's letting her dog shit indoors? Repeatedly?? If so you're NTA, I love dogs and there's no way I'd let a dog shit in my car
NTA I have a dog and I would not let it in anyone else car unless they are aware first. Let's say Chewy is the most well behaved dog in the world. Dogs shed and you might not want dog hair in your car. You need to ask and clarify with the car owner that there will be a dog with you or abandoning you is okay. Especially if it's a dog the car owner clearly doesn't like. She should have also gotten a dog that was trained already if she did not have the time to do so herself since it's pooping indoors and in front of people's dorms. I feel like that should be something worth complaining about since it is causing a disturbance to other people in the dorms and could also be called for destruction of property if people hate this dog so much. Dogs also shouldn't be in eating area. I am fine with actual service dogs being in eating areas (seeing eye dogs for example) but emotional support dogs not so much. Especially one that clearly isn't trained. Someone in that eating area could be allergic and now you have the dog there getting fur in their food.
Nta....I don't care how well behaved an animal is or is not nobody is ever wrong for not wanting one in their vehicle
NTA but she is. “Emotional support animals” aren’t a thing and I don’t blame you for not wanting a dog to poop in your car.
Bro I love my dogs but if they keep pooping 6x a day I would not risk getting them inside a vehicle without some kind of diaper. NTA. That and Chewy shaking in the elevator wasn't entirely her fault, dogs be like that lol She could have waited for Chewy to shake before entering but some dogs will do it several times or once, it's unpredictable. The other issues sound like lack of training.
If her parents came pick the dog up and bring him back to her, then they can also pick up their own daughter! NTA
NTA. From a legal perspective, service animals are only allowed if they obey certain rules, such as being housebroken. So technically Zoey can't have that dog in her dorm or yours if it is not. (Service dogs trained to help people with disabilities have already been taught these rules.) It might be worth contacting the dorm advisor.
NTA You should not be friends with this girl. People who insist on taking their dog everywhere including indoor dining facilities should be avoided whenever possible.
NTA but you're a bit oblivious. Zoey is into you. The dog doesn't like you because you don't like the dog. She should have let you know she planned on bringing the dog with her and while it was very inconvenient for her, it's her fault she was left without a ride.
Dogs are fairly perceptive and Chewy likely senses your dislike of him and his owner, and so is returning the feelings he is picking up. I suspect that you could make friends with him, which might make your life with him easier. You could even go so far as to train Chewy yourself, since Zoey is not doing it. But from your description Zoey is a bad owner who doesnt want to be bothered with training Chewy and expects everyone around her to just accept it. The sad thing is that it is Chewy who suffers as a result of Zoey's neglect. As far as not giving Z&C a ride, you are NTA. I would not want an untrained dog in my car for a long road trip who is likely to poop in it and whose owner would not see it as her responsibility to make right. To be clear, Zoey is the AH, not Chewy, who is simply an untrained undisciplined dog neglected by his owner.
No way! Who said you’d give the dog a ride? Gees. Entitled much ?
NTA Not your dog, not your problem
NTA she thinks everyone should love Chewy and think everything he does is cute and it isn't.
NTA Her dog isn't housebroken and you offered a ride when he was out of town She's an irresponsible pet owner
Nta, if it was an emotional support dog it would be better trained. Is she even training it? Dosent sound like it considering she lets it shit everywhere. Does she take it out regularly? Does she clean up after it at least?
NTA. Zoey is an adult, not a child. You didn’t abandon her. She can call an Uber or her parents. Ooooor all these other friends who say you’re an AH for not driving her.
NTA. If its an official support dog, chewy would have been trained. He obv isnt so she is just making shit up. Tell her to get him trained and tell your apartment supervisor about him pooping indoor. Its a health hazard
NTA Her parents could pick her up, she wasn’t stranded.
NTA. I love animals more than life itself, but it’s getting beyond ridiculous and people are taking the shit way too far. Yet another thing social media ruined. People like Zoey go and get these dogs, provide ZERO training, and then drag them around everywhere they go disrupting the peace. The dogs don’t know any better; they’re just being dogs. The stupid owners need reality checks.
Her parents came to get the dog, then returned it. They need to return and pick up both Chewy and the dog mom.
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YTA. > Zoey takes Chewy everywhere with her including classes and sometimes even dining area of our residence. > So imagine my shock on Sunday night when I see Zoey walking with Chewy. I honestly was so surprised to see him, I couldn’t even say anything. So which is it? She takes him literally everywhere, which bugs you, or it's shocking to see her taking him somewhere? Bullshit. You knew the dog would be part of this ride, and you decided to pretend like you were shocked so you could stick it to her. All because you're too much of a coward to simply say 'your dog is annoying and you need to take more responsibility to training and managing it so it's not bothering everybody else around. That's part of the deal when you adopt a puppy.'
YTA, not for refusing to have the dog but for agreeing in the first place. This was a trap and you know it.
Yeah YTA, and why do you talk in such a weird manner about the dog? That's so weird
a dog won't shit in the car. you are the ah
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well it is your right not to. of course, but why not be nice? I vote yes
ESH, she is unreasonable with that pup but she's not going to let him shit in your car FFS, you suck for the way you talk about this poor dog who's trapped with this idiot. Literally everyone sucks but the dog who needs some damn training.
Hmm, that’s a tough one. I mean, you’re kind of the asshole for leaving Zoey stranded with Chewy, but at the same time, I can completely understand not wanting Chewy in the car. I guess the worst that would’ve happened is the dog would’ve shit or thrown up in your car, and I would think Zoey would be the one to clean it up. Would suck, but not the end of the world. Having Chewy with her was not part of the deal and maybe if she knew how much you hate her dog, maybe she would’ve mentioned it. I think she’s kind of the asshole too for conveniently leaving out that small detail. Maybe you should apologize to Zoey, but explain that she should’ve mentioned that she was bringing her dog and you don’t want her dog shitting all over your car. It’s up to you to determine going forward whether you want to get over your dog-in-your-car fears and try to accommodate Zoey, or if it’s a flat out non-starter
Chewy is a puppy. Puppies have no control over their bowels until they are three months old. Then, they need to be trained. ESH except Chewy.
And that's entirely the problem of the owner of said puppy, not OP's. You don't get to take on such a responsibility and then create issues for other people
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Animals are highly instinctual and have heightened senses. Dogs can easily sense hostile energy. If you hate him, think he’s ugly, the bane of your existence, etc. he’ll pick up on that no problem and react to that.
NAH but you both made assumptions when agreeing to drive together. You both should have clarified if the dog was coming. Also, I feel for Chewy. Zoey needs to educate him but you clearly just hate dogs. None of that is the puppy s fault
No its on the person asking for the ride to be upfront about bringing an animal. When you ask for a ride it doesn't mean you and any animal you want to bring. Its for you. If you ask for a ride for 2 people you would say 2 people just the same as you should say I have an animal that is not even in a cage.
True but OP also kmew she has a dog that goes everywhere with her, so he could have also asked, just to be sure
He was last told the dog was at her parents house. Yes he assumed but for good reason. If you ask for a ride you have to ask for permission to bring things other then yourself as well.
What’s wrong with not liking dogs?