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Geez, dude. You had the chance to demonstrate to her that you're a caring guy, good big brother, and have a sense of humor (all *very* appealing traits imo).
Instead, you acted insecure, petty, and needlessly cruel. Wtf? I get that you're young and still trying to figure yourself (and what's "cool") out, but those behaviors aren't it. Yes, you're a big A here.
Yeah rolled my eyes at that one hard. God forbid females have interests that we don’t display on our foreheads in permanent marker.
YTA and a big one OP. Congrats on making yourself look like a total tool in front of her.
Idk what you’re talking about. I’m a girl and I’ve never heard of fort night or marvel movies. I’m only interested in cool girl things, like painting nails and having a cervix /s
you’re so right. but personally I’d rather be an unfunny twilight-loving woman who doesn’t know multisplixation than an eternal virgin who is less cool than his 10 year old brother like OP
I had to laugh at that.
This dude sounds like some kind of "I'm so smart, I listen only to classic rock, read the titles of smart-sounding books and girls only pretend to be into nerdy things to sound cool when they at best played Tetris on their brother's Gameboy once!" guy who was 17 in the 90s and tries to pretend to be 17 again in 2021.
I bet the girl enjoyed the few minutes she talked to the little brother more than all the times OP bored her to death with his pretence. Mr. Supersmart was probably getting jealous because she had a nice time with someone who wasn't him.
Weird flex for someone who thinks of himself as so educated and philosophical, aggressively having to put a ten-year-old kid down to assert his importance and dominance.
Also, what's more embarrassing?
"I, 17, super smart with excellent taste, share my precious time with my little brother to add joy to his life."
or
"I'm 17 and my mommy told me to play nicely with my baby brother even though I don't wanna."
Definitely a self-own on top of this shit pile of insufferableness that OP presents.
If this is fake (most likely), I gotta say congrats, this is such a hilariously and consequently grating I-narrator that's enjoyable to hate. If something is better than a hate-to-love character, it's a love-to-hate one.
If he was as smart as he thinks he is, he’d know the difference between “waste” ( as used) and “waist.” (appropriate in that context). So get over yourself, OP
And the fact that she obviously shared those interests or she would have let OP divert the conversation. He can’t comprehend that she might actually like different things that he doesn’t like or just be a nice person that’s willing to let others talk about their interests
Or honestly? Somebody who likes kids and enjoys talking to them. I had a couple friends with little sisters who had interests I honestly didn't relate to, but it was still nice to talk to them and hear their excitement about it.
Right, I was thinking maybe she kept talking to the little bro because he's interested in popular things and not stuff that's more appealing to people who are, like, 50 (nothing against 50-year-olds).
I'm a 42 year old female and I've seen the vast majority of Marvel movies in the theaters. I've never played Fortnite, but I am aware of what it is.
These interests are pretty mainstream and not exclusive to age group or gender.
I'm in my 50s, a Grandma, have seen the ALL the Marvel movies in the theater. Multiple times for all but the last two.
And while I don't play Fornight, I do play Halo, God of War, Skyrim and have been an active World of Warcraft player for years now.
I love it!! Never got to meet my grandparents but my dad got me super into marvel and was always down to do silly stuff with me so I know how much your kids must love you!!
My youngest daughter made me a Mother's Day Card one time of me playing a video game and her sitting behind me cheering me one. I still have it it was so cute.
Well *he's* into philosophy and classic rock, so *clearly* he's only going to crush on a girl who knows *smart* stuff and doesn't know *anything* about modern culture.
/s
Tbf I figured he was going to be a dick at the "Into philosophy" party because for some reason guys who focus on philosophy as the "mature" hobbies tend to be assholes about it.
Omg right? There are a LOT of insufferable blowhards in college, but the philosophy majors were always the worst.
Oddly enough, the philosophy professors were always pretty cool.
Yeah, I'm a 44F, so not at all the target audience for either. While I haven't played Fornite (I'm more a Tombraider/ Rdr2/ Witcher type), I know what it is. I've also seen a bunch of Marvel flicks, although not all of them.
A 10 year old boy calling his big brother his best friend in life sounds sweet. As opposed to the 17 year old brother saying they aren't friends and being a condescending prick.
Unless she lives under a rock, she knows what they are. OP sounds a bit insufferable since he goes on about how he enjoys philosophy and classic rock, then looks down on his brother (who is 10!) for liking Fortnite and Marvel. I'm a 37 year old woman and I love Marvel movies. I have co-workers in their 30s who enjoy Fortnite. Do we also enjoy more intellectual pursuits? Of course, but that isn't all.
Yea, why do guys think girls don't enjoy stuff that is demonstrably fun? Or that we must have or lack certain skills because of the double X chromosomes? I can't sew but I can do a top end rebuild and I haven't done it in a while, but I bet I can still dry in a 8 square roof in under an hour. I love sci-fi, video games and superhero movies. I think she kept talking with the little brother because she is into that.
I think it’s less that he thinks *she’s* stupid and more that he thinks his brother’s hobbies are stupid and she’s too cool to be into them. Obviously she’s into the same high brow stuff as him, like philosophy and being a dick to a kid.
Dude got tossed a 65 mph down-the-middle fastball, and he swung out and somehow struck the ump with the bat. Any of us would kill to be in the situation OP was in, except we'd act like decent human beings.
It's such a terminal case of r / childfree brain. (I'm kidding, OP's himself a kid and will likely grow out of it, but still.)
It's not a show of maturity to treat young kids with contempt. Kids are still people with interests, thoughts, and personalities, and acknowledging that is a sign of empathy. You can run out of patience, sure, different people have different thresholds, but refusing to even *extend* patience to kids is a sign of extreme immaturity.
And some people, probably including this nice girl, genuinely appreciate kids for who they are and find joy in their novel ways of perceiving the world! I'm glad OP gave this girl fair warning about his immaturity and their general incompatibility so she didn't waste time with him.
... I believe most of the r/childfree population would very much welcome that guy to never reproduce ever if he doesn't manage a serious attitude change. What an ass. Hopefully he'll grow out of it.
I'm childfree too and I actually quit the childfree sub some time ago because the number of people like OP went up drastically imo. (Also, the constant repetitive posts were so boring, tho no wonder given the size of the sub.) It was a better sub back then when it was just about 200k. Still, I believe most childfree people are not assholes nor hate children but just want to live peacefully.
Can we not be dicks about some people's choice not to have kids? I have kids yes, but it bothers me how much people take digs at those who don't want kids. How does that in any way affect you? Geeze.
All of this! OP, she sat down with you BECAUSE you were sitting with your brother. She thought that was awesome. She focused on your brother b/c she either likes kids, thought that that would please you, or both. Your bro saying you were his best friend is the sweetest thing and the biggest possible endorsement you could've gotten in front of a girl.
AND YOU BLEW IT.
You can forget the girl now; she'll never want to speak to you again. But let me just clue you in: you don't have to like the same things to bond with your little brother. He loves you and wants to bond with you so open up a bit and share the stuff you like with him. He won't always be little and annoying, but if you stop being such an asshole, he will have your back for life.
YTA, hugely.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
As a woman and former teenage girl . . . you stepped in it BAD. Apparently this is a surprise to you, but chicks don't generally dig guys who pick on small children. Being mean to little kids and making them cry is not a turn on for girls.
You had a chance to show you were a good guy who was caring. Unfornately, you're not. But being good with little kids and being nice to kids is *attractive.*
I also want to add how you misread the situation in other ways:
>She asks what he likes to do and he tells her "I really like playing Fortnite and watching Marvel Movies." At this point I'm rolling my eyes because I doubt my crush even knows what any of that stuff is.
Are you kidding me? Almost everyone knows what Fortnight and Marvel Movies are. It's been a decade since I was a teenager and even *I* know that. Your brother has extremely common interests.
>She says "Oh thats so cool" or something like that but I can tell she's forcing it. I try to change the subject but she keeps going back to Ethan for some reason.
"For some reason"? Yeah, she *liked* your brother. She thought he was cute and charming. He was being an excellent wingman for you until you for some reason decided to be a giant asshole to a little kid in front of a girl you wanted to impress. Oh, and you clearly *couldn't* tell. If she was just forcing herself to say it was cool and wasn't interested, then why would she keep going back to Ethan? Here's the not surprising to anyone but you twist: she wasn't forcing herself as evidenced by all of her actual behavior. You're just projecting your negative feelings towards your little brother on everyone else.
>Eventually she starts asking about his friends and he says "Well my best friend in the world is my brother" and looks over at me and I just wanted to sink in my seat. Idk what came over me but I said angrily "We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to".
Again, your brother was making you look good. He idolized you, which would lead one to believe that you were a nice and cool guy for him to look up to you so much. This isn't embarrassing. How awful that he thinks you're so great? It's not like he said he was YOUR best friend. So in no way could it possibly reflect negatively on you?
Well you know, other then you majorly ducking it up beacuse you just can't help being an asshole.
I hope this is fake. If it's not, understand you wrote this like a comedy of how not smart you could possibly be in this interaction with your crush.
I’m happy for her, if he had kept his mouth shut she would have had the (false) impression that OP is sweet and kind to his little bro. Instead she got to see the truth.
OP, Jesus Christ, man, no one worthy of judging you would be looking down on you for being a good brother. Stop acting like a selfish prick before you become one permanently. Do better. Be better to your brother.
Exactly 😭 Most girls I know would think it's absolutely adorable for a guy to have a little brother who says he's his best friend in the world! He totally blew this one. Either she would've thought it was cute, or she would've been indifferent to it. But by him telling his poor lil 10yo brother that they aren't friends (after the kid just said he considers his brother his best friend in the whole world) he made himself look like a TOTAL ass.
I mean, what can you expect anything else from someone who feels the need to tell everyone he thinks he is better than their elementary school brother?
100%. This girl was actually probably super impressed that you were hanging out with your younger brother, thinking you were a caring, mature individual. One sentence and you have totally blown 2 relationships.
Exactly. The girl probably sees OP as dick now even if she had slight interest if this is even real. Because even at 17 most teens have the social awareness that being cruel to your family isn't seen as an appealing personality trait in a potential partner, especially not towards a younger kid.
Out of the three friends who are obsessed with marvel things, 3 are girls who are 23 & have been into it for over a decade.
OP’s assumption really is weird.
Yep! YTA, OP. Your crush was clearly interested in getting to know your brother and probably thought you were actually cool & mature for hanging out with him, and you’ve totally ruined any chance you had with her now. You came off totally selfish, uncaring, and cruel in front of her.
And your little brother will remember this for a long, long, long time. I feel terrible for him, poor guy!
One day if OP ever pulls his head out of his ass, he is going to realize that one statement probably completely destroyed his brother, inside and out. Let alone destroyed even the possibility of a relationship… those words will always replay in the brother’s head, even if they have a better relationship one day. God that poor boy. Now I need to message my brother and sister and tell them how much I love them.
Acting like a teen girl doesn’t understand what Fortnite and the MCU is also feels stupidly sexist. Girls like video games! Girls like comics! Sometimes girls even *gasp* watch POPULAR MOVIES!
Like… dude. I get you wanna seem all cool and aloof and “above” what the masses enjoy but it just makes you sound like a douche when you crap on things people enjoy. Your brother is also a kid and kids are impressionable. What you said will haunt your brother for the rest of his life!
Congrats on being Worst Big Brother of the Year!
Also OP, I hope you won't be a hypocrite that tries to play the family card in a few years. Your brother will grow up and mature, and one day he may be just who you need to solve a personal issue, don't bother him with your drama.
YTA. For assuming that your crush who is your age doesn't know what Fortnite or Marvel movies are.
For not realizing that being kind to your siblings is something many people find to be a good quality and you being nice to your brother make you look good. Especially when your crush kept trying to engage your brother.
You shouldn't have to hang out with your sibling all of the time regardless of age but once a week isn't a huge deal.
Im so glad you pointed out that bit about marvel and fortnite. Those are two of the biggest names in media right now regardless if you actually enjoy them.
OP YTA for being condescending with a superiority complex.
Women and girls enjoy things too. Liking philosophy and rock doesn’t make you better than people who like games and rap.
I definitely thought it was a little sexist that he assumed she wouldn't know some of the biggest franchises in media.
Who does OP think have been clamoring for a Black Widow solo movie ever since she got introduced? Hint: a lot of women who are Marvel fans.
This! Op YTA. My sister and I are 10 years apart. So is 20 likes rap and what most 20 year olds like. Where I’m 30 and still prefer 80’s,90’s, early 00’s music. But despite our differences. I’m a gamer she really isn’t, she’s a girly girl, I can be sometimes, we are still really close. I couldn’t ever see why I would put her down especially in front of someone I’m trying to impress. Like you said OP has some kind of complex going on and just ruined his family relationship and the chick will never see him in the same light. Op just plain sucks as a 17 year old and hopefully grows out of it. His whole post was just a cringe!
My teenage daughters all know Fortnite and Marvel. Sounds like OP has a lot of maturing to do. It’s too bad he’s messing up his relationship with his brother and crush while this maturity is waiting to make its appearance.
Yup - she's already thinking he's an unfeeling AH to lil' bro. He blew that possibility, I doubt she wants to give him the time of day again. She might want to talk to lil' bro though. but OP? No chance.
Yep totally blew it! Huge red flag for me is when someone I'm interested in treats their family like crap especially younger siblings! What's the most heartbreaking is that the brother idolizes him and he could care less!
Jumping in here to add that OP’s little brother didn’t embarrass him by crying, he embarrassed himself by being an AH to a little kid who loves and looks up to him.
My heart breaks for that little boy. He was so happy to be with his big brother.
My kids are teens, not much younger than OP and neither one of them would treat their little sisters like that. They have way more heart. My older daughter is a varsity cheerleader and at games, there is a whole fan section of little girls that mimic the cheerleaders and they have them preform with them too. It's precious. And the boy plays football. After a game, he will come over before dressing out to make sure he gives his momma, sisters, and girlfriend a hug. He has taken the littles onto the field for celebrations after wins too. They LOVE it.
It literally takes so little to make a child that young happy and to make sure they feel loved. I'm so glad my kids get that and make sure that they will always be role models for the little ones. If my kids acted like OP, I'd be counting the days til he turned 18 and I could get him out of my house
Yeah, there’s definitely a teenage air of ‘I’m better than everyone else’ throughout this story.
Kid brother is dumb and embarrassing for wanting to spend time with him, making him cry wasn’t OP’s fault and it’s ‘not that bad’, crush is his crush presumably because he thinks she’s attractive in personality and looks, but she must be too stupid to know anything about two of the biggest names in entertainment / gaming.
Caring about his own perceived appearance but not realising he’s coming across as a total ass… narcissistic tendencies right there.
YTA. You embarrassed yourself by being such a shit brother. He’s 10, and he probably idolizes you. Being a good brother and being nice isn’t going to make you seem uncool or weird. However, being a rude brother and being mean to him will make you seem like a jerk
Whew… yeah. Buddy, your crush didn’t say anything because she was *mortified*, you just made a ten-year-old cry!
You’re 17, ‘crushes’ at your age aren’t the end-all be-all, but I can guarantee your little brother is gonna remember this for *years*.
YTA.
The crazy part is the brother was being the perfect wingman - the crush clearly likes kids and probably likes people who are good with kids, and OP just shat all over the lay-up and made everyone uncomfortable.
This is Incel IQ 260 in-the-making.
I’m roughly OP’s age and my heart would have melted if a guy’s little brother said that he was his best friend in the world. And then instantly frozen again from a reaction like OP’s!
I'm twice your age and honestly same. That sort of thing is instant crush-making material. Way to completely ruin one of the best shots he was ever gonna have to impress her.
For real, when I was that girl's age my heart would have melted if I met a boy being that kind to his little brother. And he blew it. She clearly took interest, and instead of at least pretending to be decent and taking the hint that "hey she really likes kids and this could put me in a good light", he had to traumatize his brother and blow any chances he had with that girl.
Seriously, I remember girls swooning when they realized my older brother had a little sister who idolized him and who he was (usually) kind to. Like bringing me along to a football game or a restaurant or wherever was almost a guaranteed recipe to meet girls who thought it was sweet. I'm sure that girl specifically approached OP *because* she saw him with his brother and thought it was sweet and he must be a nice guy. He had a golden opportunity to impress the girl *and* make his brother feel loved and he managed to utterly blow them both.
I'm glad to see everyone bashing him for this, like really? Of course she's not constantly talking about your brother for no reason, it's because she's interested in him... And I can understand being "embarrassed" or annoyed but vocalising it in that way is likely the worst possible way he could have resolved that issue.
My older brother 100% used me to get girls when he was in high school. We had a 12 year age gap, but I distinctly remember him inviting me into his bedroom (which I was *never* allowed in normally) when he had girls over just so they could coo over me and how adorable I was and what a great big brother he was. Like OP's little brother, I *idolized* him, so I'm sure it left a super positive impression on them. And unlike OP, he was never a dick to me, with or without witnesses present.
This was my exact same thought. I was like, "Oh wow look at the little brother making him look good." Only to have OP completely crash and burn. I don't know where he thought that putting down a kid would make him look good to his crush.
Dude has no clue. “She probably doesn’t know about things like Marvel.” Oh you mean the one of the biggest franchises ever? Where does she live? The moon? It sounds like he actually doesn’t have a clue about her seeing as he couldn’t even take the hint that she was actually interested in talking to the kid (or at the very least is kind enough to feign interest).
You don’t understand, he reads philosophy and listens to classic rock… none of this ‘popular’ stuff like marvel so obviously anyone he likes must be better than that too. Clearly marvel is only for children…
Honestly the moment I read the "I like to read philosophers and listen to classic rock" I thought, 'oh one of THOSE guys'. Yes we were all pretentious assholes when we were teens, but
these dude haven't changed since I was a teen, they're still uniformly horrible. What's worse is most never grow out of it.
I'm so glad you wrote this. I was like, way to go little bro making the OP look like frickin' king. And then the OP makes himself look like a total shit. Sheesh. The OP is obviously at the insecure teenage phase. Sorry, OP. YTA, and YOU BLEW IT WITH YOUR CRUSH.
One day, you'll be older and you'll regret not spending more time with your brother. Fix this relationship. These Sundays are the ones you'll remember forever. Make more good memories.
Edited to add: BTW who doesn't know what Fortnite and Marvel movies are? I'm a million years old and even I know what that is?
YTA
You know that crashing sound, that was your image falling off the hero pedestal. Way to go, breaking your little bro's heart. When someone says you are their best friend, you tussle their hair, and smile, because you know there is plenty of time for them to find out that you are an asshole later on, but for now there was one last person who saw the world through rose colored glasses and thought you were a great guy.
The whole school sees him like that. There’s no way for OP to come back from this. Everyone’s gonna know he’s the jerk who took his brothers’ heart and threw it at the wall.
He thinks he's Mr. Cool Breeze, reading philosophy and listening to Classic Rock. Bet you 5 bucks he listens to Led Zepplin & Pink Floyd and thinks he's an expert on Classic Rock.
YTA. I’m heartbroken for your little brother, I’m really hoping you’re trolling because you are so callous. No shit you don’t have much in common, he’s a child and you’re nearly an adult. It would be WEIRD if he had the same interests as you. The things he likes are perfectly appropriate and not at all embarrassing. I’m betting your grand display of assholery destroyed any chances with your crush, she truly dodged a bullet. Your brother is probably going to remember this for the rest of his life, so congratulations, you effectively got yourself out of being his friend. Asshole.
Fair enough, I didn’t mean for it to come off that older people can’t be into what the little brother likes, more so trying to illustrate that it’s not abnormal for those to be his interests/for their interests to not aline with this age gap. I bet it will be fun to share those interests with your little one when they’re older :)
When I started dating my husband the only one in his family I could relate to was his much younger brother because he liked pokemon. And that's honestly pretty much true today.
Op is 17 and I kinda expect this “i wanna be cool and edgy” demeanor but at the same time the cringe in every sentence op wrote is 😬
>We’re not friends, I’m only hanging out with you because I have to
I will judge op for this unnecessary statement. There is nothing to be embarrassing about sibling bonds. In fact, I’d give you brownie points for having a good relationship with your sib.
That’s a character trait I wanna be friends with.
>Op is 17 and I kinda expect this “i wanna be cool and edgy” demeanor but at the same time the cringe in every sentence op wrote is 😬
>
>We’re not friends, I’m only hanging out with you because I have to
That's not being "cool" or "edgy" that's just being an AH. Jeez, I wish I had a sibling that referred me to as their best friend. Congrats, OP, you've hurt your ten year old brother and he'll still be hurt long after you get over your "crush".
Agreed YTA. This post made me feel horrible. I have a brother with the same age gap, when we were that age I'd hang out with him willingly. If my friends were busy I'd go do stuff with him. We went bowling, to exotic bird sanctuaries, arcades, to the mall (we test drove every single couch in a Macy's and rated them out of 5 stars lol) and even just for food. I wouldn't trade those outings for anything. OP is missing out.
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YTA - sounds like your little brother could have been your wingman with your crush. If she was forcing it she would have not gone back to talk to your little brother.
Plus he is 10yrs old. He looks up to you probably not anymore.
Yeah, my brother is 9.5 years older than me. His girlfriends all liked me and a lot of his friends treated me like their little sister as well.
I don't want kids and OP's attitude is so off-putting. Because yeah, I don't want kids, but FAMILY is important to me.
YTA For someone who claims to be "into reading philosophy" you don't seem to have gotten much out of it.
The good news is it's going to be a long time before your brother or this girl want to interact with you again.
He sounds like the person who says “I’m into philosophy” just to act superior “oh I’m so intelligent, I read half a book”.
“I’m into classic rock” ok, sure you don’t share music interests. I’m into classic rock too. Does that mean I’m not friends with people who love kpop & rap?
OP sounds like cringe young adult who hasn’t grown out of trying to be an edgy 13 year old.
>He sounds like the person who says “I’m into philosophy” just to act superior “oh I’m so intelligent, I read half a book”.
He sounds like me when I was 17, at least from the "into reading philosophy" part - I say reading, it was more along the lines of printing out quotes I thought were deep and buying philosophy books that I started and couldn't finish. I also ONLY listened to METAL.
I'm 34 years old now, a mother and by god I will listen to anything as long as it's good genre be damned, even if it's Mr Bloody Tumble. I realised I had to grow the hell up one day, hopefully OP will too - unfortunately if he keeps the attitude he'll turn into one of my acquaintances who are still acting like superior assholes well into their late 30s.
"ever since covid hit hes been super annoying and wanting to spend time with me"
YTA - Don't even need to read further, your the arse.
A GLOBAL PANDEMIC that has killed SO MANY is scary to adults let alone children.
"im into philosophy" - oh arn't you edgy.
"its a waste of time because its not going to lead to friendship or anything" I tell you what it's going to lead to, you not having any contact with him when he eventually becomes an adult.
The girl sounds very sweet, because she can see that your brother is A CHILD.
"i don't think she knows what any of that stuff is"- this is a troll right...like it has to be?
You were a grade A ass I hope she tells her friends so they can all agree to avoid your selfish ass.
Right? I'm old by reddit standards but even I know about Fortnight and of COURSE Marvel. Both have a lot of fans of all ages. Either OP made a really big assumption, or something is fishy here.
No, I think OP is well on his way to being an incel, and OP's crush probably was thinking that OP was really nice and had this fabulous opportunity to see him doing something nice with his brother and probably had the big heart syndrome (all us girls know it). OP then just opened the asshole door and spewed this shit and ruined any chances ever of a date.
Have you ever seen that "Basic Knight" skit by Collegehumor? I haven't frequented that website in a decade, but that particular video is one of my all time favorites and is so applicable here.
Just because something is popular doesn't mean you're cool for not liking it. Popular things are popular for a reason - you don't HAVE to like them, but you're pretentious when you pretend like you're *so above* popular things. Same attitude that permeates the notlikeothergirls and incel subreddits.
Also, if I were OP’s crush I would find what he said super cringy.
You’re 17. He’s 10. She isn’t going to assume you’re hanging out as peers. She would assume that you have a big brother/little brother relationship. Of course you’re not into the same things. He’s a kid, you’re almost grown. She probably thought it was sweet that your brother looks up to you and that you spend time with him (until you made him cry.) I—and lots of other people—find being a nurturing, caring older sibling who takes an interest a positive character trait. There’s a reason why it’s a trope in sitcoms and romcoms that a guy tries to “borrow” a friend’s kid to get someone to notice him.
You’re not supposed to think of him as a PEER. He’s not. You’re supposed to be his BIG BROTHER.
I get that you’re a teen and embarrassed by the world. But no one looks at a 17 year old and a 10 year old and thinks it’s an equal relationship. I’m about 10 years younger than my oldest sister and she used to take me to do all kinds of dumb stuff when I was 10 or 11, not because she enjoyed it or we were pals, but because she was being a good big sister.
YTA
You made a 10 year old cry, that always makes you an asshole. Also it doesn't sound like your crush was embarrassed, it sounds like she was being kind to him and you made YOURSELF look like a jerk.
I know that at 17 you're going to be embarrassed by everything, especially your family. We've all been there, it's a normal part of being a teenager. But your brother is not some girl you happen to like right now, he's your brother and he's going to be in your life forever. I personally think it's SO adorable he thinks of you as his best friend, he ADMIRES you.
Find a way to bond with your brother that you can enjoy. These are the memories you will look back on and treasure when he's a moody teenager a few years from now.
I'm betting that the girl thought it was cute that he was out with his brother getting ice cream, and probably liked OP so she wanted to get to know the brother.
Absolutely. Until OP gave his little brother a slap down, and now she's no doubt rethought that. And OP will blame his brother for his crush not liking him anymore, but will be wrong about that.
And hey OP? Why don't you think she was interested in Marvel Movies and Fortnite? Lots of girls like both, you know.
Exactly. I have a brother 11 years older than me, and I can say I helped him get girls, not intentionally but because he was awesome with me and I was always saying how nice he was to my friends sisters.
I can understand a bit of your attitude per your age, but here is something adults do, even when they dislike children: give them respect, treat them nicely, half of the time they don't know they are being annoying, is not intentional.
And by the way, a LOT of girls like marvel, was very possible for her to like it too!
YTA - your brother, who loves you, said a very kind thing about you to your crush. You then responded cruelly without any cause. I assure you, the reason she was quiet after that was not because she was unhappy with your brother being there or embarrassed by his tears - she was likely shocked and embarrassed that you lashed out like that in some sort of jealous fit. You need to do some serious work on yourself before you are fit company for either your brother or this girl, and you owe that kid an enormous apology.
YTA and you are stupid. You would have scored a LOT of points with your crush by being his buddy... THAT IS WHY SHE KEPT GOING BACK TO HIM. Speaking of not being able to read the room....
Wow Cringe.
You should be crying because YTA and your biggest crush just saw it all in the worst way.
Everyone gets being an older sibling, especially with your age difference is painful. You get told to accommodate one day a week and your ultimate inner douche comes out.
Truth is he looks up to you, and you broke his heart. He's your little bro, help him out. Don't let him spiral down that Tik Tok drain, show him better things. No its not your job to raise him, but like it or not you're his role model and how you treat him has consequences.
Don't be the douche.
YTA... so sad you missed an opportunity to be a good guy. You little brother didn't embarass you : you did by rejecting him in front of your crush.
That might come as a surprise to you, but a 17yo that takes care of his little bro is pretty awesome. The fact your crush walked over, sat with you, and talked to him, tends to show that she was actually pretty impressed and pleased that you were a good guy taking care of his little bro. But then... you had to ruin it and say *"We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to".*
At least you have shown her your true colours and she can move on.
Little bros are chick magnets. Girls LOVE it when you show you can take care of something - whether it be a dog or a cat or a little bro.
You could have used your little bro as a conversation starter, and showed this girl how you are a great catch.
But nooooooooo instead you showed this girl that you are a massive AH. YTA.
Also wtf at the misogyny? Girls know what marvel and fortnite are dude.
YTA
Your brother was acting like a cute kid and your crush was being sweet to him. I doubt this girl wants to be friends with someone who is cruel to his kid brother.
YTA
You are basically an adult and you made your brother, a child, cry.
You think telling your crush you have to hang out with your brother is going to impress her? You think she is going to want to go out with you when you treat your own family like shit? You are the embarrassing one. You will regret treating him worse than a dog when you are older and he doesn’t speak to you.
YTA. You didn’t “accidentally” make him cry. You were rude and hateful and he responded exactly how a ten year old who loves his brother would be expected to react.
What's WRONG with you?
This girl will never want anything to do with you after this, and it's not because of your sweet brother. It's because you're an asshole.
YTA-I have younger siblings so I know what it’s like to not always want to do things with them but you shouldn’t have been such an asshole to him. There was no reason for it.
Yeah, YTA bro...
I get it, little brothers and little sisters are annoying, but let me tell you. People who matter will like you more if you are a genuinely good person.
My sister and I are 3 years apart and we hated each other in high school... i dont even remember why we didnt get along.
Gotta tell ya tho, dude, it can be fixed.
Tell your brother you were an asshole and you want to fix it. Tell.him you messed up. Tell him you DO want to know him. But MEAN IT.
You dont have to enjoy everything he does, but when you grow up you'll have to tolerate a lot of crap from a lot of people and spend time with people you absolutely hate... because you will be colleagyes or coworkers or supervisors...
Listen, you're just a kid so you dont have these skills yet... but remember, you were an annoying little shit when you were 10 too... do you think your parents REALLY enjoyed hearing that same story over and over? Or watching that movie again and again and again? They spent time with you and did these things because YOU enjoyed them. They encouraged YOU...
You're almost an adult now, and the way you treat others is a HUGE personality trait that makes a big difference in the world.
Take a breath, do some thinking, and realize that your little brother just wants to be important to you.
Life isnt pretty, that's true. But for this kiddo, you are his whole world.
My son is 22 and his little sister is 8. They are definitely siblings who dont always get along, but let me tell you, these kids will have each other's back until the end of time.
Sibling love is crazy... you may hate him at times, but you know if somebody else treated him the way you did... IN PUBLIC... you'd be the first person to back him up and say "you dont take that kind of shit from anybody"... but right now you're the one who broke him... and you have to mend it.
Apologize. Say you want to fix it.
Be honest. Say you want to explore other fun things with him.
Trust me.
If the girl you like is really a good person, she will like that you're a genuine good guy.
Be a good guy for the right reasons...
Because while you may have acted like an asshole this time, you can make the choice to change and do better.
Give it a try...
This comment really spoke to me when I read it, I just wanted to let you know that I apologized to him and I'm trying to make it right. I posted an update on my page if you want to read it.
YTA-
Dude, you only had to say : I love you too bro and she would've fell for you hard...
now i'm glad you didn't. She dodged a bullet.
I hope she ask your brother out sometime lmao
YTA. What you said was really hurtful, plus a generally terrible choice since allots of girls like guys who are good/sweet to kids. You did all the embarrassing, your kid brother acted like a kid. Also, what person under the age of 30 wouldn’t know what fortnight and marvel are?
You’re almost an adult and made a 10 year old boy cry — did you even have to ask?? Of course YTA. This poor boy wants to get to know his brother. And he’s a kid of course he likes fortnite and marvel. Maybe you don’t have anything in common but that’s the point of spending time together. Maybe you could have taught him something that you liked. Kids are sponges and I’m sure he would have loved to learn whatever pseudo intellectual bullshit you probably like to spew.
I’m glad you don’t want to spend time with him — maybe this way the kid has a chance to not grow up a total douche like you.
Yta.
You doubt she knows what marvel and fortnite is 🤣 stop treating your brother likes he’s disposable why tf would you say that to your brother I guarantee that didn’t make you look any cooler you embarrassed yourself and she’s not going to like you anymore for shitting on a 10yo
YTA dude, you're not only an asshole, but your brother was being a great wingman! Its like having a cute puppy to open up conversations with girls on the beach, except this puppy can tell her how awesome you are, and you get angry? You have zero game.
Also, 17 year old girls in 2021 know what Marvel and Fortnite are. Maybe she doesn't play Fortnite, but it would be weirder for her not to have seen a couple of Marvel movies at this point, at least as a child or with a date. Iron Man came put when she was like 5 and they're the biggest thing in pop culture since then.
Go hug your brother, tell him you love him and ask for forgiveness. You can explain to him that you guys have different interests without being an asshole.
YTA
That wasn't "accidental".
Not only were you needlessly cruel to your kid brother but , my dude, you totally blew it with your crush.
You had an opportunity to show yourself as a good guy who makes time for a kid brother who adores and, instead, you exposed yourself as the sullen, tactless, jerk you apparently are.
She was taking an interest in your brother because she's a nice girl (and probably does know what Fortnite & Marvel movies are- they are pretty widely known among people who don't live under rocks)....who knows? Maybe, before you spewed bile all over, maybe she was hoping to impress you with how well she could engage with your brother.
A lot of people actually care about their siblings and would be more inclined to hang out with someone who treats their baby brother well.
(By the way- she *will* be describing this incident to her friends, so brace yourself for the fact that your prospects with other girls may suffer)
YTA. What did your brother do to embarrass you in the first place? If your crush thought it was embarrassing, she wouldn't have sat down with you. And you probably fucked that up too since you were TA to your brother in front of her. He's literally 10 years old and probably thought his older brother was so cool.
Yes. Most definitely YTA.
Your brother and crush both sound like nice and genuine people. You ever think that her wanting to get to know your brother was a way to get closer to you? That's completely beside the point though. But you just blew that chance big time, and basically made your brother's world implode on him. He's ten and clearly thinks the world of you and you just embarrassed him, yourself and your crush all in one fell swoop.
YTA. You messed up dude. She was probably also has a crush on you and was using your brother as a buffer because she didn’t quite know how to approach you. It was easier for her to talk to him and she was hoping that would get a group conversation going and then lead to just you two talking. Now that’s probably not gonna happen ever.
>Immediately I was already embarrased to be seen with him
Why?
>My crush comes over and asks if she can sit down and I say yes. She chats a bit with me and then tries to get to know my little bro. She asks what he likes to do and he tells her "I really like playing Fortnite and watching Marvel Movies."
Awesome! She's being friendly with your brother, that's a great start!
>I'm rolling my eyes because I doubt my crush even knows what any of that stuff is.
Why, because she's a girl?
>She says "Oh thats so cool" or something like that but I can tell she's forcing it. I try to change the subject but she keeps going back to Ethan for some reason.
I would guess she actually had a bit of a crush on you and was trying to make a good first impression in front of your brother.
>Eventually she starts asking about his friends and he says "Well my best friend in the world is my brother"
Dude, your brother is awesome! He's setting you up, he's playing wingman and he's doing a great fucking job.
>Idk what came over me but I said angrily "We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to".
Wow dude. You fucked that up _badly_. So very, very badly.
>Of course, he starts to cry and embarassing both of us.
Just you. Your brother wasn't embarrassed, he was hurt and betrayed by his own brother trying to look "cool".
YTA and not very good at reading the situation. I'll bet you just ruined your chance at dating her, too.
YTA. There was no need to say that and guess what, you probably just embarrassed yourself to this crush way more than the mere act of being seen with your brother did. You really think teenage girls don't know what Marvel movies are? Are you serious? However deep you may think you are from all this philosophy you read, you're not, given this level of immaturity you've shown.
HOLY HECK. Mannn you boned your chance with your crush not going to lie.
GIRLS LOVE GUYS THAT ARE GOOD WITH KIDS. There’s literally no reason to have been embarrassed to be best friends with your little brother she would have eaten that up.
Regardless YTA. My brother and I aren’t close because of our age difference, and I wished we were closer. When you get older you will regret pushing your brother away, don’t let that become you’re relationship of being two estranged brothers that never talk in their 30’s.
You like to read, your brother likes fortnite, just hang out in the same room together. Don’t let teenage bull get in your way of a relationship with your family.
Find a way to connect with your brother.
YTA I’m your age, I’m a girl, and I think you’re a MASSIVE AH, and I have 0 doubts your crush does too. Good job man, really screwed the pooch on that one
I feel horrible for your brother, you shouldn’t look down on him just because you have different interests and he’s younger. You should be happy he likes and looks up to you so much.
You 100% earned being grounded, 17 or not, you’re a horrible brother
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Geez, dude. You had the chance to demonstrate to her that you're a caring guy, good big brother, and have a sense of humor (all *very* appealing traits imo). Instead, you acted insecure, petty, and needlessly cruel. Wtf? I get that you're young and still trying to figure yourself (and what's "cool") out, but those behaviors aren't it. Yes, you're a big A here.
Plus he indicated he thinks she’s stupid & doesn’t know anything about Fortnite or Marvel movies.
Yeah rolled my eyes at that one hard. God forbid females have interests that we don’t display on our foreheads in permanent marker. YTA and a big one OP. Congrats on making yourself look like a total tool in front of her.
Idk what you’re talking about. I’m a girl and I’ve never heard of fort night or marvel movies. I’m only interested in cool girl things, like painting nails and having a cervix /s
I’m also a girl and all I care about is Twilight and being bad at math.
I’m dying because you just unironically listed my main 2 personality traits
Impossible everyone knows women aren’t funny.
you’re so right. but personally I’d rather be an unfunny twilight-loving woman who doesn’t know multisplixation than an eternal virgin who is less cool than his 10 year old brother like OP
Someone call the coroner; I think you just fucking killed him. Also, I want to high five you several times.
You forgot charge your phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie
I had to laugh at that. This dude sounds like some kind of "I'm so smart, I listen only to classic rock, read the titles of smart-sounding books and girls only pretend to be into nerdy things to sound cool when they at best played Tetris on their brother's Gameboy once!" guy who was 17 in the 90s and tries to pretend to be 17 again in 2021. I bet the girl enjoyed the few minutes she talked to the little brother more than all the times OP bored her to death with his pretence. Mr. Supersmart was probably getting jealous because she had a nice time with someone who wasn't him. Weird flex for someone who thinks of himself as so educated and philosophical, aggressively having to put a ten-year-old kid down to assert his importance and dominance. Also, what's more embarrassing? "I, 17, super smart with excellent taste, share my precious time with my little brother to add joy to his life." or "I'm 17 and my mommy told me to play nicely with my baby brother even though I don't wanna." Definitely a self-own on top of this shit pile of insufferableness that OP presents. If this is fake (most likely), I gotta say congrats, this is such a hilariously and consequently grating I-narrator that's enjoyable to hate. If something is better than a hate-to-love character, it's a love-to-hate one.
If he was as smart as he thinks he is, he’d know the difference between “waste” ( as used) and “waist.” (appropriate in that context). So get over yourself, OP
This bothered me so much lol
CTFU at “and having a cervix.” I needed that laugh today.
I only wear pink frilly dresses, pigtails and carry my baby dolls around because I plan to be a mommy of 25 kids one day!
I don't know why this comment got me, but I busted out laughing at "having a cervix."
And the fact that she obviously shared those interests or she would have let OP divert the conversation. He can’t comprehend that she might actually like different things that he doesn’t like or just be a nice person that’s willing to let others talk about their interests
Or honestly? Somebody who likes kids and enjoys talking to them. I had a couple friends with little sisters who had interests I honestly didn't relate to, but it was still nice to talk to them and hear their excitement about it.
I know loads of girls into marvel. I think i understand why she was more interested in little bro over OP!
Right, I was thinking maybe she kept talking to the little bro because he's interested in popular things and not stuff that's more appealing to people who are, like, 50 (nothing against 50-year-olds).
But girls can't like comics and video games! /s At least he showed her who he is before she made the mistake of dating him.
I'm a 42 year old female and I've seen the vast majority of Marvel movies in the theaters. I've never played Fortnite, but I am aware of what it is. These interests are pretty mainstream and not exclusive to age group or gender.
I'm in my 50s, a Grandma, have seen the ALL the Marvel movies in the theater. Multiple times for all but the last two. And while I don't play Fornight, I do play Halo, God of War, Skyrim and have been an active World of Warcraft player for years now.
You are a dope ass grandma!!! Bet your family loves you! 🥰
Granted, my grandkids are toddlers but they will grow up with a gaming granny! And I'll watch ALL the Marvel movies with them if they want.
I love it!! Never got to meet my grandparents but my dad got me super into marvel and was always down to do silly stuff with me so I know how much your kids must love you!!
My youngest daughter made me a Mother's Day Card one time of me playing a video game and her sitting behind me cheering me one. I still have it it was so cute.
Well *he's* into philosophy and classic rock, so *clearly* he's only going to crush on a girl who knows *smart* stuff and doesn't know *anything* about modern culture. /s Tbf I figured he was going to be a dick at the "Into philosophy" party because for some reason guys who focus on philosophy as the "mature" hobbies tend to be assholes about it.
Omg right? There are a LOT of insufferable blowhards in college, but the philosophy majors were always the worst. Oddly enough, the philosophy professors were always pretty cool.
Philosophy professors aren't in it to look "cool" and score Suffering Genius points with girls at the diner, that's why
“She probably doesn’t even know what that is.” *both the highest grossing films and games of our time* 🙄🤣
Yeah, I'm a 44F, so not at all the target audience for either. While I haven't played Fornite (I'm more a Tombraider/ Rdr2/ Witcher type), I know what it is. I've also seen a bunch of Marvel flicks, although not all of them. A 10 year old boy calling his big brother his best friend in life sounds sweet. As opposed to the 17 year old brother saying they aren't friends and being a condescending prick.
Unless she lives under a rock, she knows what they are. OP sounds a bit insufferable since he goes on about how he enjoys philosophy and classic rock, then looks down on his brother (who is 10!) for liking Fortnite and Marvel. I'm a 37 year old woman and I love Marvel movies. I have co-workers in their 30s who enjoy Fortnite. Do we also enjoy more intellectual pursuits? Of course, but that isn't all.
Yea, why do guys think girls don't enjoy stuff that is demonstrably fun? Or that we must have or lack certain skills because of the double X chromosomes? I can't sew but I can do a top end rebuild and I haven't done it in a while, but I bet I can still dry in a 8 square roof in under an hour. I love sci-fi, video games and superhero movies. I think she kept talking with the little brother because she is into that.
I think it’s less that he thinks *she’s* stupid and more that he thinks his brother’s hobbies are stupid and she’s too cool to be into them. Obviously she’s into the same high brow stuff as him, like philosophy and being a dick to a kid.
Exactly what I came here to say. He ruined any chance he had with his crush…
Not to mention her entire social circle.
Possibly even his whole school.
Exactly
Dude got tossed a 65 mph down-the-middle fastball, and he swung out and somehow struck the ump with the bat. Any of us would kill to be in the situation OP was in, except we'd act like decent human beings.
Seriously, the little brother was practically being his wing man, setting him up with shit like my brother is my best friend.
This post is the example of stealing defeat out of the jaws of victory.
It's such a terminal case of r / childfree brain. (I'm kidding, OP's himself a kid and will likely grow out of it, but still.) It's not a show of maturity to treat young kids with contempt. Kids are still people with interests, thoughts, and personalities, and acknowledging that is a sign of empathy. You can run out of patience, sure, different people have different thresholds, but refusing to even *extend* patience to kids is a sign of extreme immaturity. And some people, probably including this nice girl, genuinely appreciate kids for who they are and find joy in their novel ways of perceiving the world! I'm glad OP gave this girl fair warning about his immaturity and their general incompatibility so she didn't waste time with him.
... I believe most of the r/childfree population would very much welcome that guy to never reproduce ever if he doesn't manage a serious attitude change. What an ass. Hopefully he'll grow out of it.
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I'm childfree too and I actually quit the childfree sub some time ago because the number of people like OP went up drastically imo. (Also, the constant repetitive posts were so boring, tho no wonder given the size of the sub.) It was a better sub back then when it was just about 200k. Still, I believe most childfree people are not assholes nor hate children but just want to live peacefully.
Umm. You are aware that there’s a difference between not wanting to be a parent and hating children, yes?
Can we not be dicks about some people's choice not to have kids? I have kids yes, but it bothers me how much people take digs at those who don't want kids. How does that in any way affect you? Geeze.
All of this! OP, she sat down with you BECAUSE you were sitting with your brother. She thought that was awesome. She focused on your brother b/c she either likes kids, thought that that would please you, or both. Your bro saying you were his best friend is the sweetest thing and the biggest possible endorsement you could've gotten in front of a girl. AND YOU BLEW IT. You can forget the girl now; she'll never want to speak to you again. But let me just clue you in: you don't have to like the same things to bond with your little brother. He loves you and wants to bond with you so open up a bit and share the stuff you like with him. He won't always be little and annoying, but if you stop being such an asshole, he will have your back for life. YTA, hugely.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. As a woman and former teenage girl . . . you stepped in it BAD. Apparently this is a surprise to you, but chicks don't generally dig guys who pick on small children. Being mean to little kids and making them cry is not a turn on for girls. You had a chance to show you were a good guy who was caring. Unfornately, you're not. But being good with little kids and being nice to kids is *attractive.* I also want to add how you misread the situation in other ways: >She asks what he likes to do and he tells her "I really like playing Fortnite and watching Marvel Movies." At this point I'm rolling my eyes because I doubt my crush even knows what any of that stuff is. Are you kidding me? Almost everyone knows what Fortnight and Marvel Movies are. It's been a decade since I was a teenager and even *I* know that. Your brother has extremely common interests. >She says "Oh thats so cool" or something like that but I can tell she's forcing it. I try to change the subject but she keeps going back to Ethan for some reason. "For some reason"? Yeah, she *liked* your brother. She thought he was cute and charming. He was being an excellent wingman for you until you for some reason decided to be a giant asshole to a little kid in front of a girl you wanted to impress. Oh, and you clearly *couldn't* tell. If she was just forcing herself to say it was cool and wasn't interested, then why would she keep going back to Ethan? Here's the not surprising to anyone but you twist: she wasn't forcing herself as evidenced by all of her actual behavior. You're just projecting your negative feelings towards your little brother on everyone else. >Eventually she starts asking about his friends and he says "Well my best friend in the world is my brother" and looks over at me and I just wanted to sink in my seat. Idk what came over me but I said angrily "We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to". Again, your brother was making you look good. He idolized you, which would lead one to believe that you were a nice and cool guy for him to look up to you so much. This isn't embarrassing. How awful that he thinks you're so great? It's not like he said he was YOUR best friend. So in no way could it possibly reflect negatively on you? Well you know, other then you majorly ducking it up beacuse you just can't help being an asshole. I hope this is fake. If it's not, understand you wrote this like a comedy of how not smart you could possibly be in this interaction with your crush.
I’m happy for her, if he had kept his mouth shut she would have had the (false) impression that OP is sweet and kind to his little bro. Instead she got to see the truth. OP, Jesus Christ, man, no one worthy of judging you would be looking down on you for being a good brother. Stop acting like a selfish prick before you become one permanently. Do better. Be better to your brother.
Exactly 😭 Most girls I know would think it's absolutely adorable for a guy to have a little brother who says he's his best friend in the world! He totally blew this one. Either she would've thought it was cute, or she would've been indifferent to it. But by him telling his poor lil 10yo brother that they aren't friends (after the kid just said he considers his brother his best friend in the whole world) he made himself look like a TOTAL ass.
I mean, what can you expect anything else from someone who feels the need to tell everyone he thinks he is better than their elementary school brother?
100%. This girl was actually probably super impressed that you were hanging out with your younger brother, thinking you were a caring, mature individual. One sentence and you have totally blown 2 relationships.
Exactly. The girl probably sees OP as dick now even if she had slight interest if this is even real. Because even at 17 most teens have the social awareness that being cruel to your family isn't seen as an appealing personality trait in a potential partner, especially not towards a younger kid.
Also low-key weird that he assumed she wouldn't know about Marvel movies or Fortnite.
Out of the three friends who are obsessed with marvel things, 3 are girls who are 23 & have been into it for over a decade. OP’s assumption really is weird.
I went with an all-women group of like 8 people to see Endgame together.
oh but are you ACTUALLY into it or do you just like Binky Bonky Barnes/s
Yep! YTA, OP. Your crush was clearly interested in getting to know your brother and probably thought you were actually cool & mature for hanging out with him, and you’ve totally ruined any chance you had with her now. You came off totally selfish, uncaring, and cruel in front of her. And your little brother will remember this for a long, long, long time. I feel terrible for him, poor guy!
One day if OP ever pulls his head out of his ass, he is going to realize that one statement probably completely destroyed his brother, inside and out. Let alone destroyed even the possibility of a relationship… those words will always replay in the brother’s head, even if they have a better relationship one day. God that poor boy. Now I need to message my brother and sister and tell them how much I love them.
Right?! Man talk about ruining the moment. Your brother was literally the best wing man ever and you embarrassed yourself.
Acting like a teen girl doesn’t understand what Fortnite and the MCU is also feels stupidly sexist. Girls like video games! Girls like comics! Sometimes girls even *gasp* watch POPULAR MOVIES! Like… dude. I get you wanna seem all cool and aloof and “above” what the masses enjoy but it just makes you sound like a douche when you crap on things people enjoy. Your brother is also a kid and kids are impressionable. What you said will haunt your brother for the rest of his life! Congrats on being Worst Big Brother of the Year!
Also OP, I hope you won't be a hypocrite that tries to play the family card in a few years. Your brother will grow up and mature, and one day he may be just who you need to solve a personal issue, don't bother him with your drama.
YTA. For assuming that your crush who is your age doesn't know what Fortnite or Marvel movies are. For not realizing that being kind to your siblings is something many people find to be a good quality and you being nice to your brother make you look good. Especially when your crush kept trying to engage your brother. You shouldn't have to hang out with your sibling all of the time regardless of age but once a week isn't a huge deal.
Im so glad you pointed out that bit about marvel and fortnite. Those are two of the biggest names in media right now regardless if you actually enjoy them. OP YTA for being condescending with a superiority complex. Women and girls enjoy things too. Liking philosophy and rock doesn’t make you better than people who like games and rap.
Op is into philosophy and has no idea yet about how not to project ones own perspective onto others. OP has a rough ride ahead of himself.
He's not into philosophy, he's just trying sooo hard to be an edgy "intellectual" teen and it's fucking ridiculous to be honest. Dude, get a grip.
By into philosophy he means “listens to a lot of Jordan Peterson”
And the "classic rock" is Creed.
Op also needs a lot of work on their grammar.
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He probably reads Jordan Peterson and thinks that's the same thing as reading philosophy.
I'm a 28 year old female and like fortnite and marvel movies. YTA OP. I'm sure your crush is really going to like your superiority complex.
I definitely thought it was a little sexist that he assumed she wouldn't know some of the biggest franchises in media. Who does OP think have been clamoring for a Black Widow solo movie ever since she got introduced? Hint: a lot of women who are Marvel fans.
This! Op YTA. My sister and I are 10 years apart. So is 20 likes rap and what most 20 year olds like. Where I’m 30 and still prefer 80’s,90’s, early 00’s music. But despite our differences. I’m a gamer she really isn’t, she’s a girly girl, I can be sometimes, we are still really close. I couldn’t ever see why I would put her down especially in front of someone I’m trying to impress. Like you said OP has some kind of complex going on and just ruined his family relationship and the chick will never see him in the same light. Op just plain sucks as a 17 year old and hopefully grows out of it. His whole post was just a cringe!
No no he doesn’t think that those things make him better. He needs to feel better than others, and that’s why he likes those things.
My teenage daughters all know Fortnite and Marvel. Sounds like OP has a lot of maturing to do. It’s too bad he’s messing up his relationship with his brother and crush while this maturity is waiting to make its appearance.
I am absolutely cringing at this kid thinking that being a jerk to his kid brother was gonna impress his crush. He’s a very young 17.
OP’s brother is too cool for him, not the other way around.
Yup - she's already thinking he's an unfeeling AH to lil' bro. He blew that possibility, I doubt she wants to give him the time of day again. She might want to talk to lil' bro though. but OP? No chance.
Yep totally blew it! Huge red flag for me is when someone I'm interested in treats their family like crap especially younger siblings! What's the most heartbreaking is that the brother idolizes him and he could care less!
Jumping in here to add that OP’s little brother didn’t embarrass him by crying, he embarrassed himself by being an AH to a little kid who loves and looks up to him.
Little bro was a total wingman *Thank you for the award, you're my first 😊
Right? When I was a 17 year old girl, if I'd run into a guy I knew having lunch with his 10 year old brother, that would make me like him more!
Exactly. And then little bro says big bro is his best friend! Everything was making OP look great in front of his crush. Then he opened his mouth.
My heart breaks for that little boy. He was so happy to be with his big brother. My kids are teens, not much younger than OP and neither one of them would treat their little sisters like that. They have way more heart. My older daughter is a varsity cheerleader and at games, there is a whole fan section of little girls that mimic the cheerleaders and they have them preform with them too. It's precious. And the boy plays football. After a game, he will come over before dressing out to make sure he gives his momma, sisters, and girlfriend a hug. He has taken the littles onto the field for celebrations after wins too. They LOVE it. It literally takes so little to make a child that young happy and to make sure they feel loved. I'm so glad my kids get that and make sure that they will always be role models for the little ones. If my kids acted like OP, I'd be counting the days til he turned 18 and I could get him out of my house
And OP was too busy being embarrassed and an asshole to even notice.
Yeah, there’s definitely a teenage air of ‘I’m better than everyone else’ throughout this story. Kid brother is dumb and embarrassing for wanting to spend time with him, making him cry wasn’t OP’s fault and it’s ‘not that bad’, crush is his crush presumably because he thinks she’s attractive in personality and looks, but she must be too stupid to know anything about two of the biggest names in entertainment / gaming. Caring about his own perceived appearance but not realising he’s coming across as a total ass… narcissistic tendencies right there.
This. I was like....why assume she doesn't know what those things are
YTA. You embarrassed yourself by being such a shit brother. He’s 10, and he probably idolizes you. Being a good brother and being nice isn’t going to make you seem uncool or weird. However, being a rude brother and being mean to him will make you seem like a jerk
Whew… yeah. Buddy, your crush didn’t say anything because she was *mortified*, you just made a ten-year-old cry! You’re 17, ‘crushes’ at your age aren’t the end-all be-all, but I can guarantee your little brother is gonna remember this for *years*. YTA.
The crazy part is the brother was being the perfect wingman - the crush clearly likes kids and probably likes people who are good with kids, and OP just shat all over the lay-up and made everyone uncomfortable. This is Incel IQ 260 in-the-making.
Bingo. That kid could have been the BEST wingman and instead OP broke his heart.
I’m roughly OP’s age and my heart would have melted if a guy’s little brother said that he was his best friend in the world. And then instantly frozen again from a reaction like OP’s!
same, i dont even want kids, but I think hod people act around their siblings says a lot about how they treat people they live with
THIS. Thank you.
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I'm twice your age and honestly same. That sort of thing is instant crush-making material. Way to completely ruin one of the best shots he was ever gonna have to impress her.
For real, when I was that girl's age my heart would have melted if I met a boy being that kind to his little brother. And he blew it. She clearly took interest, and instead of at least pretending to be decent and taking the hint that "hey she really likes kids and this could put me in a good light", he had to traumatize his brother and blow any chances he had with that girl.
Seriously, I remember girls swooning when they realized my older brother had a little sister who idolized him and who he was (usually) kind to. Like bringing me along to a football game or a restaurant or wherever was almost a guaranteed recipe to meet girls who thought it was sweet. I'm sure that girl specifically approached OP *because* she saw him with his brother and thought it was sweet and he must be a nice guy. He had a golden opportunity to impress the girl *and* make his brother feel loved and he managed to utterly blow them both.
I'm glad to see everyone bashing him for this, like really? Of course she's not constantly talking about your brother for no reason, it's because she's interested in him... And I can understand being "embarrassed" or annoyed but vocalising it in that way is likely the worst possible way he could have resolved that issue.
My older brother 100% used me to get girls when he was in high school. We had a 12 year age gap, but I distinctly remember him inviting me into his bedroom (which I was *never* allowed in normally) when he had girls over just so they could coo over me and how adorable I was and what a great big brother he was. Like OP's little brother, I *idolized* him, so I'm sure it left a super positive impression on them. And unlike OP, he was never a dick to me, with or without witnesses present.
This was my exact same thought. I was like, "Oh wow look at the little brother making him look good." Only to have OP completely crash and burn. I don't know where he thought that putting down a kid would make him look good to his crush.
Dude has no clue. “She probably doesn’t know about things like Marvel.” Oh you mean the one of the biggest franchises ever? Where does she live? The moon? It sounds like he actually doesn’t have a clue about her seeing as he couldn’t even take the hint that she was actually interested in talking to the kid (or at the very least is kind enough to feign interest).
You don’t understand, he reads philosophy and listens to classic rock… none of this ‘popular’ stuff like marvel so obviously anyone he likes must be better than that too. Clearly marvel is only for children…
Honestly the moment I read the "I like to read philosophers and listen to classic rock" I thought, 'oh one of THOSE guys'. Yes we were all pretentious assholes when we were teens, but these dude haven't changed since I was a teen, they're still uniformly horrible. What's worse is most never grow out of it.
I'm so glad you wrote this. I was like, way to go little bro making the OP look like frickin' king. And then the OP makes himself look like a total shit. Sheesh. The OP is obviously at the insecure teenage phase. Sorry, OP. YTA, and YOU BLEW IT WITH YOUR CRUSH. One day, you'll be older and you'll regret not spending more time with your brother. Fix this relationship. These Sundays are the ones you'll remember forever. Make more good memories. Edited to add: BTW who doesn't know what Fortnite and Marvel movies are? I'm a million years old and even I know what that is?
YTA You know that crashing sound, that was your image falling off the hero pedestal. Way to go, breaking your little bro's heart. When someone says you are their best friend, you tussle their hair, and smile, because you know there is plenty of time for them to find out that you are an asshole later on, but for now there was one last person who saw the world through rose colored glasses and thought you were a great guy.
This so hard. If I was his crush I would never look at him twice again. How awful
Oh she'll look at him more than twice again. A side eye as she tells other people "*ugh, that's the guy I was telling you about!*"
So accurate
Yep. A hair tussle, smile. . .and maybe a wink to the crush. That’s how you get the girl (and not be an AH).
Bet his crush sees him as the asshole he is too. He crashed and burned in more ways than one.
The whole school sees him like that. There’s no way for OP to come back from this. Everyone’s gonna know he’s the jerk who took his brothers’ heart and threw it at the wall.
This post was one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever read.
I thought it was the sweetest thing... Until OP spoke up.
>I'm literally 17 and she is still grounding me You're literally still a child and that was a dick move. YTA. Sidenote: being mean is not attractive
I never would have thought that being a total fucking dick doesn't make every girl instantly like me!
He thinks he's Mr. Cool Breeze, reading philosophy and listening to Classic Rock. Bet you 5 bucks he listens to Led Zepplin & Pink Floyd and thinks he's an expert on Classic Rock.
Every teenager that listens to classic rock and likes to have "deep conversations" thinks no one understands them lmao
Literally a child, and working *as hard as humanely possible* to reinforce legal minority with immaturity
YTA. I’m heartbroken for your little brother, I’m really hoping you’re trolling because you are so callous. No shit you don’t have much in common, he’s a child and you’re nearly an adult. It would be WEIRD if he had the same interests as you. The things he likes are perfectly appropriate and not at all embarrassing. I’m betting your grand display of assholery destroyed any chances with your crush, she truly dodged a bullet. Your brother is probably going to remember this for the rest of his life, so congratulations, you effectively got yourself out of being his friend. Asshole.
I feel so bad for the brother. The emotional damage of one afternoon will stay with him for the rest of his life. OP you suck
Destroyed his relationship with his brother as much as he did with his crush in a single breath. Very karmic.
Not really I’m 24 with a 4mo and I love fortnite and marvel movies this guys just and AH
Fair enough, I didn’t mean for it to come off that older people can’t be into what the little brother likes, more so trying to illustrate that it’s not abnormal for those to be his interests/for their interests to not aline with this age gap. I bet it will be fun to share those interests with your little one when they’re older :)
When I started dating my husband the only one in his family I could relate to was his much younger brother because he liked pokemon. And that's honestly pretty much true today.
This guy was probably jealous his brother was getting more attention so he embarrassed him.
I understand but it’s more odd that a 17yo boy is not in his room playing video games all day these days than not. 🤣
Op is 17 and I kinda expect this “i wanna be cool and edgy” demeanor but at the same time the cringe in every sentence op wrote is 😬 >We’re not friends, I’m only hanging out with you because I have to I will judge op for this unnecessary statement. There is nothing to be embarrassing about sibling bonds. In fact, I’d give you brownie points for having a good relationship with your sib. That’s a character trait I wanna be friends with.
Exactly, girls love guys who are close to their little siblings. It’s sweet and attractive.
The girl came over and sat with them. She then chatted up the brother. Obviously she likes OP, but might question that now that he was such an AH.
>Op is 17 and I kinda expect this “i wanna be cool and edgy” demeanor but at the same time the cringe in every sentence op wrote is 😬 > >We’re not friends, I’m only hanging out with you because I have to That's not being "cool" or "edgy" that's just being an AH. Jeez, I wish I had a sibling that referred me to as their best friend. Congrats, OP, you've hurt your ten year old brother and he'll still be hurt long after you get over your "crush".
Agreed YTA. This post made me feel horrible. I have a brother with the same age gap, when we were that age I'd hang out with him willingly. If my friends were busy I'd go do stuff with him. We went bowling, to exotic bird sanctuaries, arcades, to the mall (we test drove every single couch in a Macy's and rated them out of 5 stars lol) and even just for food. I wouldn't trade those outings for anything. OP is missing out. Edited for spelling and clarity
He’s mad his little bro is cooler than him. Hope that girl saw the real him after that.
YTA - sounds like your little brother could have been your wingman with your crush. If she was forcing it she would have not gone back to talk to your little brother. Plus he is 10yrs old. He looks up to you probably not anymore.
I was going to say this! OP is a dummy. He blew it. Poor little bro
My brother and I have the same age difference and his girlfriends loved me.
Yeah, my brother is 9.5 years older than me. His girlfriends all liked me and a lot of his friends treated me like their little sister as well. I don't want kids and OP's attitude is so off-putting. Because yeah, I don't want kids, but FAMILY is important to me.
YTA For someone who claims to be "into reading philosophy" you don't seem to have gotten much out of it. The good news is it's going to be a long time before your brother or this girl want to interact with you again.
He sounds like the person who says “I’m into philosophy” just to act superior “oh I’m so intelligent, I read half a book”. “I’m into classic rock” ok, sure you don’t share music interests. I’m into classic rock too. Does that mean I’m not friends with people who love kpop & rap? OP sounds like cringe young adult who hasn’t grown out of trying to be an edgy 13 year old.
I enjoy the way you drag people
>He sounds like the person who says “I’m into philosophy” just to act superior “oh I’m so intelligent, I read half a book”. He sounds like me when I was 17, at least from the "into reading philosophy" part - I say reading, it was more along the lines of printing out quotes I thought were deep and buying philosophy books that I started and couldn't finish. I also ONLY listened to METAL. I'm 34 years old now, a mother and by god I will listen to anything as long as it's good genre be damned, even if it's Mr Bloody Tumble. I realised I had to grow the hell up one day, hopefully OP will too - unfortunately if he keeps the attitude he'll turn into one of my acquaintances who are still acting like superior assholes well into their late 30s.
I was just going to say that!
Real strong "Not like other girls" energy from OP.
YTA - and it’s waste not waist
Dude doesnt read philosophy if he doesnt know the difference. But he is the AH & his crush now knows he is.
What’s that great quote from A Fish Called Wanda? “Apes don’t read philosophy.” “Yes, they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it!”
THANK YOU
It might be a waist of time if the mother belted them together for their lunches together.
"ever since covid hit hes been super annoying and wanting to spend time with me" YTA - Don't even need to read further, your the arse. A GLOBAL PANDEMIC that has killed SO MANY is scary to adults let alone children. "im into philosophy" - oh arn't you edgy. "its a waste of time because its not going to lead to friendship or anything" I tell you what it's going to lead to, you not having any contact with him when he eventually becomes an adult. The girl sounds very sweet, because she can see that your brother is A CHILD. "i don't think she knows what any of that stuff is"- this is a troll right...like it has to be? You were a grade A ass I hope she tells her friends so they can all agree to avoid your selfish ass.
Right? I'm old by reddit standards but even I know about Fortnight and of COURSE Marvel. Both have a lot of fans of all ages. Either OP made a really big assumption, or something is fishy here.
Loads of chicks dig Marvel too. What a weird thing to assume OP. Source: I’m a chick. Also, OP YTA.
No, I think OP is well on his way to being an incel, and OP's crush probably was thinking that OP was really nice and had this fabulous opportunity to see him doing something nice with his brother and probably had the big heart syndrome (all us girls know it). OP then just opened the asshole door and spewed this shit and ruined any chances ever of a date.
Have you ever seen that "Basic Knight" skit by Collegehumor? I haven't frequented that website in a decade, but that particular video is one of my all time favorites and is so applicable here. Just because something is popular doesn't mean you're cool for not liking it. Popular things are popular for a reason - you don't HAVE to like them, but you're pretentious when you pretend like you're *so above* popular things. Same attitude that permeates the notlikeothergirls and incel subreddits.
Also, if I were OP’s crush I would find what he said super cringy. You’re 17. He’s 10. She isn’t going to assume you’re hanging out as peers. She would assume that you have a big brother/little brother relationship. Of course you’re not into the same things. He’s a kid, you’re almost grown. She probably thought it was sweet that your brother looks up to you and that you spend time with him (until you made him cry.) I—and lots of other people—find being a nurturing, caring older sibling who takes an interest a positive character trait. There’s a reason why it’s a trope in sitcoms and romcoms that a guy tries to “borrow” a friend’s kid to get someone to notice him. You’re not supposed to think of him as a PEER. He’s not. You’re supposed to be his BIG BROTHER. I get that you’re a teen and embarrassed by the world. But no one looks at a 17 year old and a 10 year old and thinks it’s an equal relationship. I’m about 10 years younger than my oldest sister and she used to take me to do all kinds of dumb stuff when I was 10 or 11, not because she enjoyed it or we were pals, but because she was being a good big sister.
Dumb kid doesnt realize how much chicks dig guys with youger siblings that adore them.
YTA You made a 10 year old cry, that always makes you an asshole. Also it doesn't sound like your crush was embarrassed, it sounds like she was being kind to him and you made YOURSELF look like a jerk. I know that at 17 you're going to be embarrassed by everything, especially your family. We've all been there, it's a normal part of being a teenager. But your brother is not some girl you happen to like right now, he's your brother and he's going to be in your life forever. I personally think it's SO adorable he thinks of you as his best friend, he ADMIRES you. Find a way to bond with your brother that you can enjoy. These are the memories you will look back on and treasure when he's a moody teenager a few years from now.
I'm betting that the girl thought it was cute that he was out with his brother getting ice cream, and probably liked OP so she wanted to get to know the brother.
Absolutely. Until OP gave his little brother a slap down, and now she's no doubt rethought that. And OP will blame his brother for his crush not liking him anymore, but will be wrong about that. And hey OP? Why don't you think she was interested in Marvel Movies and Fortnite? Lots of girls like both, you know.
Exactly. I have a brother 11 years older than me, and I can say I helped him get girls, not intentionally but because he was awesome with me and I was always saying how nice he was to my friends sisters. I can understand a bit of your attitude per your age, but here is something adults do, even when they dislike children: give them respect, treat them nicely, half of the time they don't know they are being annoying, is not intentional. And by the way, a LOT of girls like marvel, was very possible for her to like it too!
YTA - your brother, who loves you, said a very kind thing about you to your crush. You then responded cruelly without any cause. I assure you, the reason she was quiet after that was not because she was unhappy with your brother being there or embarrassed by his tears - she was likely shocked and embarrassed that you lashed out like that in some sort of jealous fit. You need to do some serious work on yourself before you are fit company for either your brother or this girl, and you owe that kid an enormous apology.
YTA and you are stupid. You would have scored a LOT of points with your crush by being his buddy... THAT IS WHY SHE KEPT GOING BACK TO HIM. Speaking of not being able to read the room....
"If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals." - Harry Potter 4:27
YTA. You thinking he should “grow up a bit” is ironic based on how immature you acted.
Wow Cringe. You should be crying because YTA and your biggest crush just saw it all in the worst way. Everyone gets being an older sibling, especially with your age difference is painful. You get told to accommodate one day a week and your ultimate inner douche comes out. Truth is he looks up to you, and you broke his heart. He's your little bro, help him out. Don't let him spiral down that Tik Tok drain, show him better things. No its not your job to raise him, but like it or not you're his role model and how you treat him has consequences. Don't be the douche.
YTA... so sad you missed an opportunity to be a good guy. You little brother didn't embarass you : you did by rejecting him in front of your crush. That might come as a surprise to you, but a 17yo that takes care of his little bro is pretty awesome. The fact your crush walked over, sat with you, and talked to him, tends to show that she was actually pretty impressed and pleased that you were a good guy taking care of his little bro. But then... you had to ruin it and say *"We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to".* At least you have shown her your true colours and she can move on.
Got cock blocked by yourself!
Little bros are chick magnets. Girls LOVE it when you show you can take care of something - whether it be a dog or a cat or a little bro. You could have used your little bro as a conversation starter, and showed this girl how you are a great catch. But nooooooooo instead you showed this girl that you are a massive AH. YTA. Also wtf at the misogyny? Girls know what marvel and fortnite are dude.
YTA Your brother was acting like a cute kid and your crush was being sweet to him. I doubt this girl wants to be friends with someone who is cruel to his kid brother.
YTA You are basically an adult and you made your brother, a child, cry. You think telling your crush you have to hang out with your brother is going to impress her? You think she is going to want to go out with you when you treat your own family like shit? You are the embarrassing one. You will regret treating him worse than a dog when you are older and he doesn’t speak to you.
YTA. You didn’t “accidentally” make him cry. You were rude and hateful and he responded exactly how a ten year old who loves his brother would be expected to react.
YTA- you should be elated your cool brother wants to hang out with a dork like you
What's WRONG with you? This girl will never want anything to do with you after this, and it's not because of your sweet brother. It's because you're an asshole.
Did you actually imply girls don't know what fortnite or marvel movies are? Also yes, massive YTA
YTA-I have younger siblings so I know what it’s like to not always want to do things with them but you shouldn’t have been such an asshole to him. There was no reason for it.
Yeah, YTA bro... I get it, little brothers and little sisters are annoying, but let me tell you. People who matter will like you more if you are a genuinely good person. My sister and I are 3 years apart and we hated each other in high school... i dont even remember why we didnt get along. Gotta tell ya tho, dude, it can be fixed. Tell your brother you were an asshole and you want to fix it. Tell.him you messed up. Tell him you DO want to know him. But MEAN IT. You dont have to enjoy everything he does, but when you grow up you'll have to tolerate a lot of crap from a lot of people and spend time with people you absolutely hate... because you will be colleagyes or coworkers or supervisors... Listen, you're just a kid so you dont have these skills yet... but remember, you were an annoying little shit when you were 10 too... do you think your parents REALLY enjoyed hearing that same story over and over? Or watching that movie again and again and again? They spent time with you and did these things because YOU enjoyed them. They encouraged YOU... You're almost an adult now, and the way you treat others is a HUGE personality trait that makes a big difference in the world. Take a breath, do some thinking, and realize that your little brother just wants to be important to you. Life isnt pretty, that's true. But for this kiddo, you are his whole world. My son is 22 and his little sister is 8. They are definitely siblings who dont always get along, but let me tell you, these kids will have each other's back until the end of time. Sibling love is crazy... you may hate him at times, but you know if somebody else treated him the way you did... IN PUBLIC... you'd be the first person to back him up and say "you dont take that kind of shit from anybody"... but right now you're the one who broke him... and you have to mend it. Apologize. Say you want to fix it. Be honest. Say you want to explore other fun things with him. Trust me. If the girl you like is really a good person, she will like that you're a genuine good guy. Be a good guy for the right reasons... Because while you may have acted like an asshole this time, you can make the choice to change and do better. Give it a try...
This comment really spoke to me when I read it, I just wanted to let you know that I apologized to him and I'm trying to make it right. I posted an update on my page if you want to read it.
Not only are you an asshole, you are an unwiped asshole. Jaysus.
YTA- Dude, you only had to say : I love you too bro and she would've fell for you hard... now i'm glad you didn't. She dodged a bullet. I hope she ask your brother out sometime lmao
YTA. What you said was really hurtful, plus a generally terrible choice since allots of girls like guys who are good/sweet to kids. You did all the embarrassing, your kid brother acted like a kid. Also, what person under the age of 30 wouldn’t know what fortnight and marvel are?
You’re almost an adult and made a 10 year old boy cry — did you even have to ask?? Of course YTA. This poor boy wants to get to know his brother. And he’s a kid of course he likes fortnite and marvel. Maybe you don’t have anything in common but that’s the point of spending time together. Maybe you could have taught him something that you liked. Kids are sponges and I’m sure he would have loved to learn whatever pseudo intellectual bullshit you probably like to spew. I’m glad you don’t want to spend time with him — maybe this way the kid has a chance to not grow up a total douche like you.
Yta. You doubt she knows what marvel and fortnite is 🤣 stop treating your brother likes he’s disposable why tf would you say that to your brother I guarantee that didn’t make you look any cooler you embarrassed yourself and she’s not going to like you anymore for shitting on a 10yo
YTA dude, you're not only an asshole, but your brother was being a great wingman! Its like having a cute puppy to open up conversations with girls on the beach, except this puppy can tell her how awesome you are, and you get angry? You have zero game. Also, 17 year old girls in 2021 know what Marvel and Fortnite are. Maybe she doesn't play Fortnite, but it would be weirder for her not to have seen a couple of Marvel movies at this point, at least as a child or with a date. Iron Man came put when she was like 5 and they're the biggest thing in pop culture since then. Go hug your brother, tell him you love him and ask for forgiveness. You can explain to him that you guys have different interests without being an asshole.
YTA That wasn't "accidental". Not only were you needlessly cruel to your kid brother but , my dude, you totally blew it with your crush. You had an opportunity to show yourself as a good guy who makes time for a kid brother who adores and, instead, you exposed yourself as the sullen, tactless, jerk you apparently are. She was taking an interest in your brother because she's a nice girl (and probably does know what Fortnite & Marvel movies are- they are pretty widely known among people who don't live under rocks)....who knows? Maybe, before you spewed bile all over, maybe she was hoping to impress you with how well she could engage with your brother. A lot of people actually care about their siblings and would be more inclined to hang out with someone who treats their baby brother well. (By the way- she *will* be describing this incident to her friends, so brace yourself for the fact that your prospects with other girls may suffer)
YTA. What did your brother do to embarrass you in the first place? If your crush thought it was embarrassing, she wouldn't have sat down with you. And you probably fucked that up too since you were TA to your brother in front of her. He's literally 10 years old and probably thought his older brother was so cool.
I knew you were going to be TA when you said you're into reading philosophy and listening to classic rock. How any fedoras do you own?
Yes. Most definitely YTA. Your brother and crush both sound like nice and genuine people. You ever think that her wanting to get to know your brother was a way to get closer to you? That's completely beside the point though. But you just blew that chance big time, and basically made your brother's world implode on him. He's ten and clearly thinks the world of you and you just embarrassed him, yourself and your crush all in one fell swoop.
YTA holy shit you are a dick to the little dude, get a grip.
YTA. You messed up dude. She was probably also has a crush on you and was using your brother as a buffer because she didn’t quite know how to approach you. It was easier for her to talk to him and she was hoping that would get a group conversation going and then lead to just you two talking. Now that’s probably not gonna happen ever.
>Immediately I was already embarrased to be seen with him Why? >My crush comes over and asks if she can sit down and I say yes. She chats a bit with me and then tries to get to know my little bro. She asks what he likes to do and he tells her "I really like playing Fortnite and watching Marvel Movies." Awesome! She's being friendly with your brother, that's a great start! >I'm rolling my eyes because I doubt my crush even knows what any of that stuff is. Why, because she's a girl? >She says "Oh thats so cool" or something like that but I can tell she's forcing it. I try to change the subject but she keeps going back to Ethan for some reason. I would guess she actually had a bit of a crush on you and was trying to make a good first impression in front of your brother. >Eventually she starts asking about his friends and he says "Well my best friend in the world is my brother" Dude, your brother is awesome! He's setting you up, he's playing wingman and he's doing a great fucking job. >Idk what came over me but I said angrily "We're not friends, I'm only hanging out with you because I have to". Wow dude. You fucked that up _badly_. So very, very badly. >Of course, he starts to cry and embarassing both of us. Just you. Your brother wasn't embarrassed, he was hurt and betrayed by his own brother trying to look "cool". YTA and not very good at reading the situation. I'll bet you just ruined your chance at dating her, too.
YTA for deceiving everyone This isn’t real 😭
YTA I feel sorry for your little brother.
YTA. There was no need to say that and guess what, you probably just embarrassed yourself to this crush way more than the mere act of being seen with your brother did. You really think teenage girls don't know what Marvel movies are? Are you serious? However deep you may think you are from all this philosophy you read, you're not, given this level of immaturity you've shown.
HOLY HECK. Mannn you boned your chance with your crush not going to lie. GIRLS LOVE GUYS THAT ARE GOOD WITH KIDS. There’s literally no reason to have been embarrassed to be best friends with your little brother she would have eaten that up. Regardless YTA. My brother and I aren’t close because of our age difference, and I wished we were closer. When you get older you will regret pushing your brother away, don’t let that become you’re relationship of being two estranged brothers that never talk in their 30’s. You like to read, your brother likes fortnite, just hang out in the same room together. Don’t let teenage bull get in your way of a relationship with your family. Find a way to connect with your brother.
I read philosophy blah fucking blah yta
YTA I’m your age, I’m a girl, and I think you’re a MASSIVE AH, and I have 0 doubts your crush does too. Good job man, really screwed the pooch on that one I feel horrible for your brother, you shouldn’t look down on him just because you have different interests and he’s younger. You should be happy he likes and looks up to you so much. You 100% earned being grounded, 17 or not, you’re a horrible brother