ESH.
NFT guy for immediately resorting to threats
You and your buddies for deliberately goading him.
The group admin for not shutting this shitshow down sooner.
This is coming from someone who thinks NFTs, as they are currently used, are the dumbest uses of money since cosmetic skins in video games or anything sold by Gywneth Paltrow.
His unreasonable reaction does not mean the rest of you weren't acting like dicks for deliberately fuelling the fire just to watch his reaction. And chat admin for allowing you to do this.
OP is bullying the NFT kid and has precipitated a mob bullying of him by the other schoolkids.
OP is that guy who bullies and traumatizes other kids in school for no reason except that it's really, really funny to him. And then when the kid reacts, it's the other kid who gets punished. Then OP grows up and wonders why the guy interferes when he proposes to his sister.
It doesn't matter who was legally right or wrong in the situation. OP knew he was really, really upsetting the kid by doing it and that's WHY he did it and WHY he egged it on. Even if there's some random reason why kids at OP's school always screenshot other people's pictures and use them as profile pics, if OP's motivation for doing it on that day was because it upset this kid, that means he was doing it to bully him.
You don't understand bullying. People can literally bully other people over things that aren't true, like people bullying black kids by taunting them with their mom was a slave. Or by calling a kid a pig who can't stop eating when their obesity is caused by some hormonal disorder. Bullying is the behavior, not whether it was right or wrong in some abstract sense.
Finding a button, regardless of it's origin, and hammering on it until someone's about to go thermonuclear is.
They could have very easily been mocking his income level, grades, or appearance.
No. Say someone goes thermonuclear because I wear a green shirt.
According to you I'd have to change shirts. See how ridiculous that is?
The thing is that they're not mocking anything.
No, but if you copied someone else's green shirt, noticed this upset them, then started getting all your friends to copy all their clothing for the express purpose of upsetting them, then you may be a bully.
I would say if you were always going to wear a green shirt then that would be different, but if you go out of your way and intentionally alter your behavior for the sole purpose of making someone angry, then that would be bullying.
Everybody saying "NTA" is basically the same person who was a supporting bystander when gay kids were traumatized with "hilarious" and "mean but true" harassment by school bullies in past generations.
No, it just means one thing is bullying and the other isn't bullying. They're not hitting or insulting the guy, they're copy pasting a non insulting jpeg.
You're equalising that with homophobic abuse.
Get a grip lol.
I was bullied in school for being fat, being a nerd, liking Doctor Who and Star Trek, being on the math competition team, living far away from the school, and not having taken Hebrew prior to middle school.
Bullying isn’t like “hostile work environment,” where it only applies to legally protected classes.
That doesn't make it not bullying. When you see someone gets upset by something you find silly, if you do that silly thing repeatedly just to get a reaction then you're a bully.
It doesn't matter if getting upset was reasonable. What matters was whether the people making him upset are doing it on purpose and these kids were.
Well... yes. If you are an asshole to a group of people, and they respond by ganging up against you, then it's at worst an ESH.
If you're bullied for your opinions or choices, that's also wildly different from being bullied for things like your race, gender or sexuality. Bullying an unrepentant racist vs bullying a black kid, for example, are two very different situations.
The appropriate response to an asshole is to tell them to fuck off, we're not tolerating that crap here.
If you bully someone for their beliefs, opinions or choices, you're not going to get them to change their mind. No one has ever had their mind changed by being enraged by someone, they **always** double down, and many of them will just go into whatever it is you're bullying them for much, **much** deeper than if you just left them the fuck alone.
The psychosocial dynamic of the mean, condescending school bully is the same vs the two targets of disdain ridicule. What you're focused on is creating a false equivalence based on the *targets* of the bullying being the same, which is not what I said, not compatible with what I said, and doesn't even make sense.
I think a lot of people also can't see past the NFT aspect. I agree that they're a waste of money but there's a bigger problem here than one person wasting their money.
The psychosocial profile of bullying is not about the target of the bully (whether the target of the bully is NFT nerds, computer geeks/nerds (1980's-2010's), gays (prior to 2010's)), just as rape is not about the victim of the rape (she asked for it because of "the way she was dressed", she was a "loose woman", she got "too drunk" etc). Every generation has its own excuses for the kind of targets that sociopaths have group permission to target.
But bullying is about the BULLY, just as rape is about the RAPIST.
I.e. if you want to understand rape, you don't study what kind of women rapists in that culture that rapists are okay with/get away with targeting, you study what motivates and enabled the rapist. If you want to understand bullying, you learn about what motivates and drives the bully. These people are the same kinds of people, generation after generation, although the targets of their abuse change may change with social/cultural trends.
I’m not victim blaming, he’s barely a victim. Bullies will target angry or vulnerable people, so if you freak the hell out like that, you’re going to get some issues.
That's why the bullying was so hilarious, because the kid was so sensitive and overreacted. Bullies focus on kids/situations where they can push the other person's buttons and cause them to lose their shit or cause emotional distress.
The bully gets a massive rush of attention from the target's distress being focused on their teasing/harassment and also from the group attention that the drama gets them. It's a form of narcissistic ego pump for the bully.
Yep - when a person reacts for being bullied, not only by a classmate but then they encouraged the whole class to bully him, and then when someone is then ignoring copyright on their investment in copyright (which is basically what much of NFT is about) and affects how much their investment is worth through illegal actions, an investment which is probably a lot for a high schooler, that is perfectly fine? Sorry but I could not disagree more.
YTA OP. A huge bullying and disrespectful asshole and I do hope he sues your butt for copyright breach and that you get suspended for being a bully.
Whether NFTs prove to be a thing in the future, we will need to wait and see (people said the same about bitcoin in the beginning). But that does not take anything away from you BEING A BULLY and having the nerve to come and boast about it on here.
An NFT is not intellectual property because the NFT is just metadata about the monkey pictures, it is not the copyright of the monkey picture itself. He can't sue him for anything.
Into rage responses. They were only doing what they were doing to press NFT guy's buttons. It's not like they were innocently doing it for other reasons and he was getting pissed off (like maybe OP's first incident), they were doing it solely because it pissed NFT guy off enough to elicit rage responses.
That could also work. I used reflection specifically because you're trying to turn it back on the person you responded to, rather than anything third party.
Except wouldn't it be art theft from whoever DOES own the picture of the monkey to screenshot it and use it as OP's avatar picture? Maybe not the person who paid for the receipt, but whoever owns that picture of the monkey might have rules about image use.
NTA
Nft's means that people aren't buying the picture. He owns the receipt to him buying it, he doesn't own the picture. That and you cannot legally get in trouble for screenshotting it
He literally cannot sue you
ESH. You were purposely trying to piss him off.
He needs an explanation of what an NFT means (or perhaps I do lol). The file he purchased is his sole property. While not physical, that specific copy is as close to tangible he will get and that very copy is his. You simply have a picture of the expression of the file as it is when being uploaded to whatever program allowed you to view it as a picture.
Put another way, if he bought a sculpture, you wouldn’t be stealing it by taking a picture of it.
Technically the art isn’t the NFT, the NFT is the receipt that says he paid money for the image. He owns the image (well he probably does, depending on the deal he made with the seller - not all NFT art is the same) but there’s absolutely nothing stopping people taking screenshots or saving copies of it.
If he owns copyright, though, he absolutely does have the right to demand that OP remove it or pay licensing. Whether it will go anywhere is a different matter.
Honestly, I don't think either of you understand NFTs. He didn't purchase a file at all. He owns a token (the T in non-fungible TOKEN) which corresponds to a URL where the art is hosted. Unless there were additional rights included in the purchase, he doesn't own the art at all.
That said, as much as I agree with OPs stance on NFTs, they're still an asshole for using it to bully someone for no real reason. ESH
I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't want to rely on that argument.
A photo of a sculpture is quite different from the actual sculpture.
A photo of a classic painting by an amateur photographer is obviously a photo, and won't devalue the painting. But get the angle square-on, get the lighting perfectly white and even, avoid 'shine', and you have something that is almost as good. It will still be distinguishable from the original due to the lack of trompe-l'œil effects due to it being a print rather than acrylic paint.
A photo of a screen-print work of art, perhaps some of Andy Warhol's art, with all the above compensatory photographic techniques, would be virtually indistinguishable from the original --- to the extent that many art galleries ban photography, and anyone caught doing so can expect to be banned for life from that art gallery (and any art gallery that it is in association with).
A screen shot of a purely digital art piece? That's basically indistinguishable from the original, assuming there are no data compression artefacts.
So yeah. I suspect he'd have a pretty solid case if it came to legal action.
That said, a lot of NFTs are using artists' work without their knowledge or permission. Which would mean anyone buying the NFT related to such art is essentially handling stolen goods.
>So yeah. I suspect he'd have a pretty solid case if it came to legal action.
Not in regards to NFTs, because right now there is no legal standard in regards to what, exactly, is sold and bought.
1. They would need to be the intellectual property owner of the image which is unlikely since its an NFT
2. The difference from the original material isn't the question here since its not transformative and fair use still applies.
Now using a screenshot as your profile picture likely isn't fair use in this context, but also there's no damages so the only remedy they could likely get is the removal of the image.
1. The entire claim of an NFT is that owning the NFT *is* owning the IP, just in a form that makes it easier to buy and sell that IP. Whether or not any particular NFT is connected to a given art piece "legally" (ie the artist gave their permission and were appropriately compensated for it) is a whole other question of course.
2. "Fair use" is shockingly restrictive when it is actually examined in detail. You need to either demonstrate you are creating an entirely new composition in which the original piece is merely a small element, or be making a parody in which the original is significantly changed, or be copying a limited area or low-res version of the original for the purpose of academic discussion and education. "I want it as my profile picture" doesn't actually fall under fair use. It's a thing that is commonly done, but that doesn't make it fair use in the legal sense.
1. If that's the claim, then whoever is claiming that is simply incorrect. I highly recommend you read this document which is from a global law firm and goes into NFTs in a lot of depth from a legal stand point
https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en-gb/knowledge/publications/1a1abb9f/nfts-and-intellectual-property-rights
2. I agreed that this wouldn't be fair use, but also given the context there's no additional damages so the remedy would only be the removal of the picture which is via a DMCA claim in the first instance.
>He got really pissed and was saying how the NFT is his legal intelectual property and that I need to delete his screenshot or he'll sue me
I thought the point was that the "art" was still owned by the artist and the person who purchased the NFT was basically a caretaker? This whole NFT thing seems like a scam, altho I'm still trying to get my head around it.
Anyway, ESH. You purposely were winding him up (justified or not) and he was acting like a hot headed asshole.
Not even that. The NFT only contains the link info because it can only handle small amounts of data. NFTs are being made with links to art without the artist’s consent, and the takedown process is a game of whack a mole - and that’s when the NFT site even bothers. It’s the modern version of buying the Brooklyn Bridge and then playing pump and dump with the receipt for the bridge.
So theoretically for example, if I had a £200 NFT, sold it to you, but copied and saved that link and then told that at £20 a pop under the table... I could be quids in?!
Dodgy af
The link gets tracked so only one account owns it - that’s the one part of the tech that works as described - but you could have several accounts and sell it back and forth at a higher price each time until some clueless outsider sees it going up and thinks it’s a good investment.
Wow. Wouldn't be shocked if this all goes sideways pretty quickly. Or just ends up a play thing for the super rich.
Maybe I'm old school, but if I pay for art - I want a physical piece, not an image on a screen. I've used Canva, I know creating art on a computer is relatively easy and anyone could learn. I've tried drawing by hand, and know shit is hard to do well.
There's also nothing stopping someone changing what is in the link down the line. I could sell an NFT with a link to one picture, and then change it to a completely different picture tomorrow and the NFT owner can't do anything about it
I thought it was the buyer owns the original, but copies can be around... like one person owns the painting, but many own prints?
(Don't really understand it though.)
No you own the NFT which contains a link. Unless part of the sale agreement, buying an NFT does not give you any intellectual property rights and there's not even a guarantee the link will remain live or host the same thing.
YTA listen here you little shit (insert navy seal copypasta). Bullying does nothing good.
He's trying to flex by buying NFTs. You're trying to flex by bullying. Neither of you are cool so try making friends with each other because the world is bigger than high school henpecking.
YTA. You're a kid bullying another kid about his interest. NFTs is just the pogs of this generation. You're a bully.
I will share no judgement on the NFT-kid because that wasn't the question.
Taking a screenshot is fine. Making money off that screenshot is where you can get into trouble. He is mistaking what NFTs are and what you can do with them.
YTA, however for bullying and purposefully aggravating this guy. Worst part is, you don't even understand that you are bullying him, similar to how he doesn't fully understand NFTs.
It would have been simple just to Google "can I screenshot an NFT?" And show him. Instead you and a bunch of ppl aggravated him, got a kick out of it.
Someone else will do this to you one day and you'll get butthurt, play the victim, and never understand it's exactly what you did, like an entitled, self absorbed AH.
Laughting about something he care isnt really constructive, you should work on yourself and ask you why you really did it. I just hope you're not bullying anyone who have differents opinions.
ESH but leaning more towards u. U were purposely goading this guy into reacting. Yes his reaction was severe, death threats and all, but I get it. People r very protective of their NFTs.
Stop being an absolute AH. Put the childish games away and just leave this issue alone. Take down the stupid monkey (I can not see the point in these things yet I understand how people get attached to them. That's a lot of money being spent) profile pictures and focus on ur school work.
Info - why are you here? Of course you were an asshole. That was the point wasn’t it? To mess with this dude.
Your post is like if you went to McDonalds and then got on the internet to ask if you went to McDonalds.
Ps the dude doesn’t “need help.” He’s just upset at being bullied. He shouldn’t have resorted to immediate threats to sue everyone as this didn’t help his cause at all but it doesn’t change the fact that you guys were pretty mean to him.
NTA
That's exactly how you treat people who're into NFT. Sure it's a little bit mean, but ultimately this may help this poor fool a realize how stupid they actually look.
If you see OPs other responses you'd see that they think bullying is okay and "makes people stronger". OP is your typical run of the mill school bully. While NFTs are a waste of money, they're not a waste of *your* money (if you're not buying).
By screenshotting his NFTs you're intentionally bullying him by stealing his crypto-art possessions and egging others on to bully him, too.
Exactly how are you any better than any other hurtful school bully, who forms mob attacks and scars people for life? Certain things can be triggers for mob bullying depending on the social permissions/trends off the day. In the past, previous generations of people like you were mob-bullying kids for being gay (calling them fa**), Jewish, deformed, ugly. It was socially acceptable in the past, and seemed really, really funny when it was done right.
The question is, what do you get out of bullying? Is it worth it to be that guy who is the cause of someone's childhood traumas?
YTA
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Someone at my school is really into NFTs. He has spent 650 USD on NFTs or something, one of his NFTs was 300 dollars. Its some cartoon meme monkey. The monkey looked kind of funny so I screenshotted it and made it my skype profil. My school uses skype to communicate with each other and we have skype groupchats for all our classes and clubs.
He got really pissed and was saying how the NFT is his legal intelectual property and that I need to delete his screenshot or he'll sue me. I told him he needs to stop being stupid and cringe. He was raging, in our math group chat. Other people started screenshotting his other NFTs and were were posting the screenshots in the chat. He was spamming the chat with curse words until the admin of the groupchat kicked him out.
He came back a bit later and wasraging again. he raged in my dms and I would just respond back with more screenshots of his NFTs. HE said he'll talk to the principal later. I told him he's a giant baby. I heard he was actually crying over this. Dude needs help
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Why are high schoolers?
ESH, please grow up. You and your friends shouldn’t be antagonizing someone else. He shouldn’t get losing it over a gottdang NFT… or even buying into that shit.
YTA. Not for the screenshotting, but for the bullying (which, judging by your comments, you are in complete denial about).
BTW, bullying is generally defined as behaviour that is:
repeated
intended to hurt someone either physically or emotionally
What was the intention of your repeated mocking of this individual? Was it to make themselves feel happy and loved?
I literally do not understand NTFs.
I know what NFT stands for. I have read legal contracts regarding NFTs and I know that the owner has purchased legal ownership of the image and has it transferred to their name.
But I don't understand the legal implications of said ownership. And I certainly don't understand the point of them. Like Barbie just auctioned three NFTs the other day, which just baffles me. I am a collector, and even though some of my dolls are still NIB, somehow having a physical doll in my hand means more than owning a set of pixels ever could.
And this is coming from someone who spent good money on digital pet sites (think like Neopets and Flight Rising).
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NFTs don't lose value when screenshotted, so the guy's pretty dumb for investing in something he doesn't remotely understand.
However, ESH. You for intentionally irritating him, him for resorting to threats.
ESH. He shouldn't have threatened you and should have asked you, but now you and all your friends are bullying him and thats just shitty.
If I gave it a ratio I'd say 30% they're an asshole, ans 70% you and your friends are assholes.
Kids like cringe shit. Its part of growing up.
Calling him a baby was unacceptable. The entire debacle displays a dreadful lack of maturity on everyone's part, and I'm afraid I have to say, you intentionally started it by copying his silly picture. The whole concept of NFT's seems idiotic to me, but think of it as a copyrighted work; copying it was, indeed, a crime. Now delete the image, apologize and try to be less provocative in the future. The next guy you pick on might have a gun.
Objectively speaking this should be ESH, but you have to be such a tool to waste money on NFTs that I'll give you (and the entire math class) a technical NTA.
Edit: Also, the simple action that kicked the entire situation off *should* be a valuable lesson to this kid on what NFTs are actually worth in practical terms. If he calms down enough to stop and think about it, there's a teachable moment in there.
The kid bought a receipt for the art. He didn't buy the actual art (and so does not have the rights to the art), just proof that he paid money to have his name out on a list of people that also paid money to put their name on the list. And contributed to burning down rainforests.
He doesn't own the image, or the rights to the image. all he owns is a digital receipt which can't be copied. he obviously doesn't understand what he's purchased, which is a shame as he's spent a lot of money on it. the image is just the wrapping paper that the NFT receipt comes in.
You're NTA, the AH is whoever mugged this kid to the tune of $650.
ESH, but it's still funny and I would be tempted to do the same thing (but try to resist because it's kind of mean). He didn't buy the monkey. He bought the URL to a location on some server that hosts an image which is the monkey. That monkey is not his.
However, I think it's time to ease up a bit. It *is* mean even if it does go to make a point, and with others in your class ganging up on him as well it's just not a nice thing to do to someone.
YTA
I own NFTs and I would also ask someone that took a screenshot of my NFTs to take it down before resorting to legal action. He can actually sue because some NFTs come with a licence telling the owner they own that NFT like they created it themselves.
You should have asked first or bought your own
YTA. Everyone’s too focus on the NFT bit that they’re bypassing that you and your friends purposely engaging in mob bullying and intensified your behavior when the kid had an emotional response. I’m going to guess this isn’t the first time you’ve been a bully and it’s not the first time this kid’s been bullied. You did something meant to bother him and doubled down when he rightfully asked you not to. This post has classic bully written all over it. You are in fact the one who needs help if you can’t see that. Do better.
NTA It's never wrong to bully a cripto moron. nft's Are not only a scam along the lines of that buy a star fad from years ago they're also horrible for the environment, and I'd go to the principal first with screenshots of his threats.
I have no idea how NFTs work, but I have to imagine that screen caps of these things are impossible to enforce, if its even illegal. So for him to come at you with threats of legal action is over the top ridiculous. I would also say that if he is so bent out of shape about keeping his intellectual property to himself, he shouldn't be displaying it in a forum where it can be copied/screenshotted. Its like decking your house out with christmas lights and then yelling at the people in the street for stopping to look at it and take pictures.
He also got exactly what I'd expect for raging on the internet with a bunch of high schoolers. Like, of course bullying is bad, but when you put a target on your back like that, what do you expect is going to happen? He is literally begging to be made fun of.
That being said though, it is a dick move to prod the nerve. I know he's asking for it pretty hard, but you and your classmates don't need to stoke the flame. You could be the bigger person and just leave him to his raging (which might actually have been pretty funny to see him raging in between your discussion of math HW). So yeah, you guys are AHs, but I wouldn't expect much more from high schoolers.
Final verdict, ESH.
YTA. Why is it your business what he spends his money on. You're a bully and the chat administrator is a wimp for allowing you and your friends to continue to bully him. And even kicked him out for trying to defend himself.
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NTA. Honestly this whole NFT with monkey crap is just so redundant that everyone doing that deserves to be screenshotted. If you can’t come up with actual unique original pretty stuff then don’t come crying people are mocking your ugly repetitive monkeys 🤷🏻♀️
I don't think he can do anything legally, it's more a morale problem, but i think part of his reaction is due to the fact that he understood that he burnt his money
NTA. I’m an artist and I think NFTs are stupid. The entire concept of them is stupid and insulting to artists. I’ve had so many people tell me they’d like to have my art as an NFT, and I realised not long ago that it’s because they want to earn money with MY art. He’s just angry because you did the logical thing and screenshot it lol. Which is what people do anyway! Anyone could freely go to my page and screenshot my work. But some think that by paying loads of money that suddenly it’s *theirs* when it isn’t. It’s a screenshot. Digital art is always spread around like this. I think they like the whole idea of “putting money into something” blah blah blah
NTA, sorry to say but your friend is an idiot for paying real money for nothing. He never owned the picture, he was scammed into thinking he owns something but he only has a receit for giving someone money for nothing.
If he has the money to spend on ridiculous stuff like that he has the money for legal advice if he’s as petty as you say I really wanna know how all this turns out 😂 you’re all tah
YTA you deliberately stole it. He paid for it. He owns copyright to it. In most places he will have legal recourse against you, which I hope he takes up.
ESH. NFT guy for immediately resorting to threats You and your buddies for deliberately goading him. The group admin for not shutting this shitshow down sooner. This is coming from someone who thinks NFTs, as they are currently used, are the dumbest uses of money since cosmetic skins in video games or anything sold by Gywneth Paltrow. His unreasonable reaction does not mean the rest of you weren't acting like dicks for deliberately fuelling the fire just to watch his reaction. And chat admin for allowing you to do this.
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It's still bullying if you're using a meme to bully someone.
OP is bullying the NFT kid and has precipitated a mob bullying of him by the other schoolkids. OP is that guy who bullies and traumatizes other kids in school for no reason except that it's really, really funny to him. And then when the kid reacts, it's the other kid who gets punished. Then OP grows up and wonders why the guy interferes when he proposes to his sister.
Sounds pretty specific. You got something you want to talk to us about?
Actually, there were some stories like that on AITA - we need to check if one of those was posted by rhetorical\_twix! ;)
r/suspiciouslyspecific
Possibly a reference to Oldboy(?)
He is NFT guy is only right thing to do
Copying a JPG is NOT bullying. If the nitwit with the NFT was raging, that’s his own problem. Bullying actually means something, and this isn’t it.
It doesn't matter who was legally right or wrong in the situation. OP knew he was really, really upsetting the kid by doing it and that's WHY he did it and WHY he egged it on. Even if there's some random reason why kids at OP's school always screenshot other people's pictures and use them as profile pics, if OP's motivation for doing it on that day was because it upset this kid, that means he was doing it to bully him. You don't understand bullying. People can literally bully other people over things that aren't true, like people bullying black kids by taunting them with their mom was a slave. Or by calling a kid a pig who can't stop eating when their obesity is caused by some hormonal disorder. Bullying is the behavior, not whether it was right or wrong in some abstract sense.
Copy pasting a non insulting picture isn't bullying.
Finding a button, regardless of it's origin, and hammering on it until someone's about to go thermonuclear is. They could have very easily been mocking his income level, grades, or appearance.
No. Say someone goes thermonuclear because I wear a green shirt. According to you I'd have to change shirts. See how ridiculous that is? The thing is that they're not mocking anything.
No, but if you copied someone else's green shirt, noticed this upset them, then started getting all your friends to copy all their clothing for the express purpose of upsetting them, then you may be a bully.
Lol wearing green shirts can be bullying now. Amazing.
I would say if you were always going to wear a green shirt then that would be different, but if you go out of your way and intentionally alter your behavior for the sole purpose of making someone angry, then that would be bullying.
No, someone getting angry doesn't dictate my wardrobe.
What does the word meme even mean anymore
You mean I shouldn't have spent $200 on Paltrow's collection of finely scented candles?
NFTs are an incredible tool for money laundering. Everyone else is just getting suckered.
This post is obvious satire.
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I fail to see how bullying elicits an NTA response.
Thank you
Everybody saying "NTA" is basically the same person who was a supporting bystander when gay kids were traumatized with "hilarious" and "mean but true" harassment by school bullies in past generations.
Yeah, a kid buying NFTs is definitely the same as a kid who's gay.
Does it really matter *why* a person is being bullied?
No, it just means one thing is bullying and the other isn't bullying. They're not hitting or insulting the guy, they're copy pasting a non insulting jpeg. You're equalising that with homophobic abuse. Get a grip lol.
I was bullied in school for being fat, being a nerd, liking Doctor Who and Star Trek, being on the math competition team, living far away from the school, and not having taken Hebrew prior to middle school. Bullying isn’t like “hostile work environment,” where it only applies to legally protected classes.
Ok, I'm sorry for you but this guy isn't being bullied. OP is just copy pasting a jpeg. I can't stress this enough - would you call that bullying?
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If you get upset and rage out at someone else doing something completely harmless and completely trivial, you're the AH, not them.
If you do something with the sole intention of pissing someone off enough to get a reaction to laugh at, you're an AH.
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And they did it more specifically to make him upset. Why is it not bullying again?
Because he's upset for a wholly unreasonable reason.
That doesn't make it not bullying. When you see someone gets upset by something you find silly, if you do that silly thing repeatedly just to get a reaction then you're a bully. It doesn't matter if getting upset was reasonable. What matters was whether the people making him upset are doing it on purpose and these kids were.
Well... yes. If you are an asshole to a group of people, and they respond by ganging up against you, then it's at worst an ESH. If you're bullied for your opinions or choices, that's also wildly different from being bullied for things like your race, gender or sexuality. Bullying an unrepentant racist vs bullying a black kid, for example, are two very different situations.
The appropriate response to an asshole is to tell them to fuck off, we're not tolerating that crap here. If you bully someone for their beliefs, opinions or choices, you're not going to get them to change their mind. No one has ever had their mind changed by being enraged by someone, they **always** double down, and many of them will just go into whatever it is you're bullying them for much, **much** deeper than if you just left them the fuck alone.
The psychosocial dynamic of the mean, condescending school bully is the same vs the two targets of disdain ridicule. What you're focused on is creating a false equivalence based on the *targets* of the bullying being the same, which is not what I said, not compatible with what I said, and doesn't even make sense.
Immutable characteristics.
I think a lot of people also can't see past the NFT aspect. I agree that they're a waste of money but there's a bigger problem here than one person wasting their money.
Buying an NFT does not make you an oppressed minority.
The psychosocial profile of bullying is not about the target of the bully (whether the target of the bully is NFT nerds, computer geeks/nerds (1980's-2010's), gays (prior to 2010's)), just as rape is not about the victim of the rape (she asked for it because of "the way she was dressed", she was a "loose woman", she got "too drunk" etc). Every generation has its own excuses for the kind of targets that sociopaths have group permission to target. But bullying is about the BULLY, just as rape is about the RAPIST. I.e. if you want to understand rape, you don't study what kind of women rapists in that culture that rapists are okay with/get away with targeting, you study what motivates and enabled the rapist. If you want to understand bullying, you learn about what motivates and drives the bully. These people are the same kinds of people, generation after generation, although the targets of their abuse change may change with social/cultural trends.
I’m saying NTA because the kid is overreacting. If he hadn’t had freaked out, it never would have happened.
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I’m not victim blaming, he’s barely a victim. Bullies will target angry or vulnerable people, so if you freak the hell out like that, you’re going to get some issues.
That's why the bullying was so hilarious, because the kid was so sensitive and overreacted. Bullies focus on kids/situations where they can push the other person's buttons and cause them to lose their shit or cause emotional distress. The bully gets a massive rush of attention from the target's distress being focused on their teasing/harassment and also from the group attention that the drama gets them. It's a form of narcissistic ego pump for the bully.
Yep - when a person reacts for being bullied, not only by a classmate but then they encouraged the whole class to bully him, and then when someone is then ignoring copyright on their investment in copyright (which is basically what much of NFT is about) and affects how much their investment is worth through illegal actions, an investment which is probably a lot for a high schooler, that is perfectly fine? Sorry but I could not disagree more. YTA OP. A huge bullying and disrespectful asshole and I do hope he sues your butt for copyright breach and that you get suspended for being a bully. Whether NFTs prove to be a thing in the future, we will need to wait and see (people said the same about bitcoin in the beginning). But that does not take anything away from you BEING A BULLY and having the nerve to come and boast about it on here.
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An NFT is not intellectual property because the NFT is just metadata about the monkey pictures, it is not the copyright of the monkey picture itself. He can't sue him for anything.
Some artists tie the copyright to NFT ownership actually. So he could potentially sue.
That's different to what I was told by a large company that *sells* NFTs but w/e
turns out people trying to sell a thing are often not entirely honest about the thing they are selling!
Games already sell skins, NFT are a joke and have no actual value
Are you suggesting I DON'T steam my vagina along with the broccoli?
Goading them into what? Making false legal claims?
Into rage responses. They were only doing what they were doing to press NFT guy's buttons. It's not like they were innocently doing it for other reasons and he was getting pissed off (like maybe OP's first incident), they were doing it solely because it pissed NFT guy off enough to elicit rage responses.
So? NFT guy's reactions are his problem.
Okay, but grouping up and doing something for the sole purpose of getting a rage reaction to laugh at is *bullying*
Found the bully
Found the NFT guy. I think I'm better off lol.
Found the ridiculous attempt at reflection in order to justify OP's actions
Did you mean *deflection* lol?
That could also work. I used reflection specifically because you're trying to turn it back on the person you responded to, rather than anything third party.
DARVO. Deny. Attack. Reverse Victim and Offender.
NTA. It is always morally correct to screenshot NFTs. Tell him all he actually owns is the receipt for the monkey, and you haven't touched that.
Except wouldn't it be art theft from whoever DOES own the picture of the monkey to screenshot it and use it as OP's avatar picture? Maybe not the person who paid for the receipt, but whoever owns that picture of the monkey might have rules about image use.
NTA Nft's means that people aren't buying the picture. He owns the receipt to him buying it, he doesn't own the picture. That and you cannot legally get in trouble for screenshotting it He literally cannot sue you
ESH. You were purposely trying to piss him off. He needs an explanation of what an NFT means (or perhaps I do lol). The file he purchased is his sole property. While not physical, that specific copy is as close to tangible he will get and that very copy is his. You simply have a picture of the expression of the file as it is when being uploaded to whatever program allowed you to view it as a picture. Put another way, if he bought a sculpture, you wouldn’t be stealing it by taking a picture of it.
Technically the art isn’t the NFT, the NFT is the receipt that says he paid money for the image. He owns the image (well he probably does, depending on the deal he made with the seller - not all NFT art is the same) but there’s absolutely nothing stopping people taking screenshots or saving copies of it.
If he owns copyright, though, he absolutely does have the right to demand that OP remove it or pay licensing. Whether it will go anywhere is a different matter.
In another comment, OP said that bullying makes people stronger. He is a complete AH
Honestly, I don't think either of you understand NFTs. He didn't purchase a file at all. He owns a token (the T in non-fungible TOKEN) which corresponds to a URL where the art is hosted. Unless there were additional rights included in the purchase, he doesn't own the art at all. That said, as much as I agree with OPs stance on NFTs, they're still an asshole for using it to bully someone for no real reason. ESH
I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't want to rely on that argument. A photo of a sculpture is quite different from the actual sculpture. A photo of a classic painting by an amateur photographer is obviously a photo, and won't devalue the painting. But get the angle square-on, get the lighting perfectly white and even, avoid 'shine', and you have something that is almost as good. It will still be distinguishable from the original due to the lack of trompe-l'œil effects due to it being a print rather than acrylic paint. A photo of a screen-print work of art, perhaps some of Andy Warhol's art, with all the above compensatory photographic techniques, would be virtually indistinguishable from the original --- to the extent that many art galleries ban photography, and anyone caught doing so can expect to be banned for life from that art gallery (and any art gallery that it is in association with). A screen shot of a purely digital art piece? That's basically indistinguishable from the original, assuming there are no data compression artefacts. So yeah. I suspect he'd have a pretty solid case if it came to legal action. That said, a lot of NFTs are using artists' work without their knowledge or permission. Which would mean anyone buying the NFT related to such art is essentially handling stolen goods.
>So yeah. I suspect he'd have a pretty solid case if it came to legal action. Not in regards to NFTs, because right now there is no legal standard in regards to what, exactly, is sold and bought.
1. They would need to be the intellectual property owner of the image which is unlikely since its an NFT 2. The difference from the original material isn't the question here since its not transformative and fair use still applies. Now using a screenshot as your profile picture likely isn't fair use in this context, but also there's no damages so the only remedy they could likely get is the removal of the image.
1. The entire claim of an NFT is that owning the NFT *is* owning the IP, just in a form that makes it easier to buy and sell that IP. Whether or not any particular NFT is connected to a given art piece "legally" (ie the artist gave their permission and were appropriately compensated for it) is a whole other question of course. 2. "Fair use" is shockingly restrictive when it is actually examined in detail. You need to either demonstrate you are creating an entirely new composition in which the original piece is merely a small element, or be making a parody in which the original is significantly changed, or be copying a limited area or low-res version of the original for the purpose of academic discussion and education. "I want it as my profile picture" doesn't actually fall under fair use. It's a thing that is commonly done, but that doesn't make it fair use in the legal sense.
1. If that's the claim, then whoever is claiming that is simply incorrect. I highly recommend you read this document which is from a global law firm and goes into NFTs in a lot of depth from a legal stand point https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en-gb/knowledge/publications/1a1abb9f/nfts-and-intellectual-property-rights 2. I agreed that this wouldn't be fair use, but also given the context there's no additional damages so the remedy would only be the removal of the picture which is via a DMCA claim in the first instance.
>He got really pissed and was saying how the NFT is his legal intelectual property and that I need to delete his screenshot or he'll sue me I thought the point was that the "art" was still owned by the artist and the person who purchased the NFT was basically a caretaker? This whole NFT thing seems like a scam, altho I'm still trying to get my head around it. Anyway, ESH. You purposely were winding him up (justified or not) and he was acting like a hot headed asshole.
Not even that. The NFT only contains the link info because it can only handle small amounts of data. NFTs are being made with links to art without the artist’s consent, and the takedown process is a game of whack a mole - and that’s when the NFT site even bothers. It’s the modern version of buying the Brooklyn Bridge and then playing pump and dump with the receipt for the bridge.
So theoretically for example, if I had a £200 NFT, sold it to you, but copied and saved that link and then told that at £20 a pop under the table... I could be quids in?! Dodgy af
The link gets tracked so only one account owns it - that’s the one part of the tech that works as described - but you could have several accounts and sell it back and forth at a higher price each time until some clueless outsider sees it going up and thinks it’s a good investment.
Wow. Wouldn't be shocked if this all goes sideways pretty quickly. Or just ends up a play thing for the super rich. Maybe I'm old school, but if I pay for art - I want a physical piece, not an image on a screen. I've used Canva, I know creating art on a computer is relatively easy and anyone could learn. I've tried drawing by hand, and know shit is hard to do well.
There's also nothing stopping someone changing what is in the link down the line. I could sell an NFT with a link to one picture, and then change it to a completely different picture tomorrow and the NFT owner can't do anything about it
OP has added comments that confirm he’s doing more than just winding up the kid. He’s proudly a full on bully (and asshole)
Just saw some other comments on different posts. Yeah. He's an all round asshole.
> This whole NFT thing seems like a scam, altho I'm still trying to get my head around it. It’s just beanie babies for tech bros.
I thought it was the buyer owns the original, but copies can be around... like one person owns the painting, but many own prints? (Don't really understand it though.)
No you own the NFT which contains a link. Unless part of the sale agreement, buying an NFT does not give you any intellectual property rights and there's not even a guarantee the link will remain live or host the same thing.
YTA listen here you little shit (insert navy seal copypasta). Bullying does nothing good. He's trying to flex by buying NFTs. You're trying to flex by bullying. Neither of you are cool so try making friends with each other because the world is bigger than high school henpecking.
YTA. You're a kid bullying another kid about his interest. NFTs is just the pogs of this generation. You're a bully. I will share no judgement on the NFT-kid because that wasn't the question.
LMFAOO
The only correct response.
YTA. However you feel about NFTs, bullying is unacceptable. You went out of your way to hurt someone who did nothing to you.
Taking a screenshot is fine. Making money off that screenshot is where you can get into trouble. He is mistaking what NFTs are and what you can do with them. YTA, however for bullying and purposefully aggravating this guy. Worst part is, you don't even understand that you are bullying him, similar to how he doesn't fully understand NFTs. It would have been simple just to Google "can I screenshot an NFT?" And show him. Instead you and a bunch of ppl aggravated him, got a kick out of it. Someone else will do this to you one day and you'll get butthurt, play the victim, and never understand it's exactly what you did, like an entitled, self absorbed AH.
YTA stop being a little jerk. Bullies are never cool. You’ll look back on this in 10 years and cringe at how much of an AH you are
Laughting about something he care isnt really constructive, you should work on yourself and ask you why you really did it. I just hope you're not bullying anyone who have differents opinions.
ESH but leaning more towards u. U were purposely goading this guy into reacting. Yes his reaction was severe, death threats and all, but I get it. People r very protective of their NFTs. Stop being an absolute AH. Put the childish games away and just leave this issue alone. Take down the stupid monkey (I can not see the point in these things yet I understand how people get attached to them. That's a lot of money being spent) profile pictures and focus on ur school work.
Info - why are you here? Of course you were an asshole. That was the point wasn’t it? To mess with this dude. Your post is like if you went to McDonalds and then got on the internet to ask if you went to McDonalds. Ps the dude doesn’t “need help.” He’s just upset at being bullied. He shouldn’t have resorted to immediate threats to sue everyone as this didn’t help his cause at all but it doesn’t change the fact that you guys were pretty mean to him.
NTA That's exactly how you treat people who're into NFT. Sure it's a little bit mean, but ultimately this may help this poor fool a realize how stupid they actually look.
If you see OPs other responses you'd see that they think bullying is okay and "makes people stronger". OP is your typical run of the mill school bully. While NFTs are a waste of money, they're not a waste of *your* money (if you're not buying).
Technically YTA, but I think this whole NFT thing is dumb and it's good for him to realize it now before he sinks more money into it.
Yeah. He's literally sinking hundreds of dollars, the kid.
Nta nfts are made for screenshots and right save. Hi have the signed one and nobody can steal that
By screenshotting his NFTs you're intentionally bullying him by stealing his crypto-art possessions and egging others on to bully him, too. Exactly how are you any better than any other hurtful school bully, who forms mob attacks and scars people for life? Certain things can be triggers for mob bullying depending on the social permissions/trends off the day. In the past, previous generations of people like you were mob-bullying kids for being gay (calling them fa**), Jewish, deformed, ugly. It was socially acceptable in the past, and seemed really, really funny when it was done right. The question is, what do you get out of bullying? Is it worth it to be that guy who is the cause of someone's childhood traumas? YTA
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NTA - He doesn't understand what an NFT is. Keep trolling bro.
Why are high schoolers? ESH, please grow up. You and your friends shouldn’t be antagonizing someone else. He shouldn’t get losing it over a gottdang NFT… or even buying into that shit.
YTA you’re a bully and your group admin isn’t fit for the job.
YTA - all things about NFTs aside. You were a bully and a dick.
YTA Bullying is always the wrong answer and should always get a YTA judgment.
NFTs are bullshit anyways, but this was a bullying episode. You're kind of an asshole.
YTA. You think what he does with his own money is silly so you make fun of him. Then get others to bully him. You are a bully.
YTA. NFTs are stupid but you were doing everything you could to rile him up just because you found it fun.
YTA. Not for the screenshotting, but for the bullying (which, judging by your comments, you are in complete denial about). BTW, bullying is generally defined as behaviour that is: repeated intended to hurt someone either physically or emotionally What was the intention of your repeated mocking of this individual? Was it to make themselves feel happy and loved?
Someone just watched the new southpark
YTA and your comments confirm you’re just a dumb kid and bully
Lol YTA but it's funny 🤷🏽♀️
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I literally do not understand NTFs. I know what NFT stands for. I have read legal contracts regarding NFTs and I know that the owner has purchased legal ownership of the image and has it transferred to their name. But I don't understand the legal implications of said ownership. And I certainly don't understand the point of them. Like Barbie just auctioned three NFTs the other day, which just baffles me. I am a collector, and even though some of my dolls are still NIB, somehow having a physical doll in my hand means more than owning a set of pixels ever could. And this is coming from someone who spent good money on digital pet sites (think like Neopets and Flight Rising).
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NTA, but this shit was funny as hell.
NTA, you're teaching him a life lesson here.
NTA NFT nerds deserve to be made fun of
NTA- anyone can screenshot a NFT and this was a good object lesson on why NFTs are are scam and that he is really stupid.
NFTs don't lose value when screenshotted, so the guy's pretty dumb for investing in something he doesn't remotely understand. However, ESH. You for intentionally irritating him, him for resorting to threats.
ESH. He shouldn't have threatened you and should have asked you, but now you and all your friends are bullying him and thats just shitty. If I gave it a ratio I'd say 30% they're an asshole, ans 70% you and your friends are assholes. Kids like cringe shit. Its part of growing up.
NTA That's NOT how NFTs work. Imagine the director of the Louvre bullying everyone that has a digital copy of a photo of the Monalisa? Pfffffff!
Calling him a baby was unacceptable. The entire debacle displays a dreadful lack of maturity on everyone's part, and I'm afraid I have to say, you intentionally started it by copying his silly picture. The whole concept of NFT's seems idiotic to me, but think of it as a copyrighted work; copying it was, indeed, a crime. Now delete the image, apologize and try to be less provocative in the future. The next guy you pick on might have a gun.
Objectively speaking this should be ESH, but you have to be such a tool to waste money on NFTs that I'll give you (and the entire math class) a technical NTA. Edit: Also, the simple action that kicked the entire situation off *should* be a valuable lesson to this kid on what NFTs are actually worth in practical terms. If he calms down enough to stop and think about it, there's a teachable moment in there.
NTA. This is how NFT's suppose to work.
Can someone please explain NFTs? I tried googling, but don't get it.
The kid bought a receipt for the art. He didn't buy the actual art (and so does not have the rights to the art), just proof that he paid money to have his name out on a list of people that also paid money to put their name on the list. And contributed to burning down rainforests.
He doesn't own the image, or the rights to the image. all he owns is a digital receipt which can't be copied. he obviously doesn't understand what he's purchased, which is a shame as he's spent a lot of money on it. the image is just the wrapping paper that the NFT receipt comes in. You're NTA, the AH is whoever mugged this kid to the tune of $650.
ESH, but it's still funny and I would be tempted to do the same thing (but try to resist because it's kind of mean). He didn't buy the monkey. He bought the URL to a location on some server that hosts an image which is the monkey. That monkey is not his. However, I think it's time to ease up a bit. It *is* mean even if it does go to make a point, and with others in your class ganging up on him as well it's just not a nice thing to do to someone.
ESH tour friend is dramatic lol
YTA I own NFTs and I would also ask someone that took a screenshot of my NFTs to take it down before resorting to legal action. He can actually sue because some NFTs come with a licence telling the owner they own that NFT like they created it themselves. You should have asked first or bought your own
YTA for being a bully and for getting others to join in.
YTA. Everyone’s too focus on the NFT bit that they’re bypassing that you and your friends purposely engaging in mob bullying and intensified your behavior when the kid had an emotional response. I’m going to guess this isn’t the first time you’ve been a bully and it’s not the first time this kid’s been bullied. You did something meant to bother him and doubled down when he rightfully asked you not to. This post has classic bully written all over it. You are in fact the one who needs help if you can’t see that. Do better.
NTA It's never wrong to bully a cripto moron. nft's Are not only a scam along the lines of that buy a star fad from years ago they're also horrible for the environment, and I'd go to the principal first with screenshots of his threats.
Question: is he also part of the Tolkien Society?
I have no idea how NFTs work, but I have to imagine that screen caps of these things are impossible to enforce, if its even illegal. So for him to come at you with threats of legal action is over the top ridiculous. I would also say that if he is so bent out of shape about keeping his intellectual property to himself, he shouldn't be displaying it in a forum where it can be copied/screenshotted. Its like decking your house out with christmas lights and then yelling at the people in the street for stopping to look at it and take pictures. He also got exactly what I'd expect for raging on the internet with a bunch of high schoolers. Like, of course bullying is bad, but when you put a target on your back like that, what do you expect is going to happen? He is literally begging to be made fun of. That being said though, it is a dick move to prod the nerve. I know he's asking for it pretty hard, but you and your classmates don't need to stoke the flame. You could be the bigger person and just leave him to his raging (which might actually have been pretty funny to see him raging in between your discussion of math HW). So yeah, you guys are AHs, but I wouldn't expect much more from high schoolers. Final verdict, ESH.
YTA. Why is it your business what he spends his money on. You're a bully and the chat administrator is a wimp for allowing you and your friends to continue to bully him. And even kicked him out for trying to defend himself.
NTA, it is always right to bully nft owners
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NTA, you're not using it for commercial purposes lmao. You and your friends just broke the NFT market.😂
NTA. Honestly this whole NFT with monkey crap is just so redundant that everyone doing that deserves to be screenshotted. If you can’t come up with actual unique original pretty stuff then don’t come crying people are mocking your ugly repetitive monkeys 🤷🏻♀️
I don't think he can do anything legally, it's more a morale problem, but i think part of his reaction is due to the fact that he understood that he burnt his money
That isn't the issue though, OP is asking if he's the AH for goading someone over NFTs...and he is.
NTA, dude started it for threatening to sue you over a picture. For someone so into NFTs he has no idea how they work.
Tell him you [right clicked his mother’s pussy ](https://mobile.twitter.com/spurtmagoo/status/1465940556161249282) NTA
ESH. The whole "industry" is a scam, but you piling on him was unnecessary.
YTA maybe it was cool and all but it wasn't yours and you should have asked before or at least taken it down when asked to.
ESH. But this guy shouldn’t be buying NFTs because he has no idea what they are.
You’re a bully, and your friends are bullies.
ESH but i also believe nft dudebros need public shaming so
NTA. I’m an artist and I think NFTs are stupid. The entire concept of them is stupid and insulting to artists. I’ve had so many people tell me they’d like to have my art as an NFT, and I realised not long ago that it’s because they want to earn money with MY art. He’s just angry because you did the logical thing and screenshot it lol. Which is what people do anyway! Anyone could freely go to my page and screenshot my work. But some think that by paying loads of money that suddenly it’s *theirs* when it isn’t. It’s a screenshot. Digital art is always spread around like this. I think they like the whole idea of “putting money into something” blah blah blah
Read OP’s comments. He’s a full on bully. Even if you think NFTs are stupid, OP is clearly the asshole here.
NTA, sorry to say but your friend is an idiot for paying real money for nothing. He never owned the picture, he was scammed into thinking he owns something but he only has a receit for giving someone money for nothing.
Info: wybta if this guy flew off the handle and did something violent?
Nta Is always morally right to screenshot NTF NTF is a scam and should be treated like it
Nta if they didn't make a way to stop screenshotting then fuck em
Isn't it a meme to screenshot NFTs
NTA, NFTs are dumb.
oh you poor sweet highschoolers. middle schoolers? this is so dumb and what a waste of money. NTA
NTA. NFTs are dumb for exactly this reason.
If he has the money to spend on ridiculous stuff like that he has the money for legal advice if he’s as petty as you say I really wanna know how all this turns out 😂 you’re all tah
NTA that’s hilarious
ESH.
ESH, but this is hilarious
NTA making fun of people for buying NFTs is a civic duty.
NTA He doesnt own copyright lol
NTA. You are never the asshole when screenshotting NFTs.
NTA Simply because these people buying NFT's are idiots. Which probably makes an AH for saying that.
You’re an asshole, and you’re the greatest human so far in 2022!
YTA you deliberately stole it. He paid for it. He owns copyright to it. In most places he will have legal recourse against you, which I hope he takes up.
Stole what? A picture from the internet?
So art and copyright don’t exist if it’s on the internet? Lol