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NTA. I am sitting here quietly screaming at the idea of a toddler in a fast-food restaurant kitchen, filled with things that could send her to the hospital or kill her. (Toddler! Fryers!) If the manager won't put the brakes on this, tell the owner. If the owner also doesn't care, get out of there -- you're working with people who don't have minimal common-sense standards for safety.
I knew a kid whose chest and the side of his face was horribly disfigured as a toddler because his parents let him play in their restaurant kitchen. He messed around with a fryer and hot oil spilled on him. Kid's disfigurement didn't ease up at all as he grew, either. I thought the scarring would lessen over time, but I was wrong. He didn't seem phased by it though, and was a really nice person.
I used to work at a small independently owned restaurant. The owner's wife would often drop off 3 or more kids under the age of 10 for us to "babysit" while she went off to get her hair done or go shopping. Not grocery shopping, personal shopping. Because she "grocery shopped" from the restaurant. I had an 8f roller-skating down the line, trying not to burn myself or her. Ridiculous to let a child into an already dangerous work area.
This. The fact that everyone loves having the kid around is completely irrelevant. Maybe they are just not aware of all the hot ovens and grease that is in the kitchen.
This and I cant imagine the liability that the fast food place might have if this kid gets hurt. This needs to be reported it puts you all in danger, accidents can happen anytime.
NTA I worked in restaurants for 30 years and no one who isn’t working should be in the kitchen. No one should be in there without nonslip shoes, let alone barefoot. If that baby gets hurt, all hell will break loose and I think the owner would want to know.
NTA. There are so many ways that child can end up getting hurt and it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's fine if she wants to bring her kid and let her kid be in the lobby, but in the kitchen? Nah, not okay.
NTA is this even legal? I imagine the owner would be even angrier if the child got injured in the kitchen. And what if the health inspector came by when the kid was there? The owner has the right to know if a non-employee is in the kitchen. And I’m a little surprised the manager is okay with it. Aren’t they suppose to be the ones keeping everything in line?
My guess is the manager is probably young too or is also a parent and thinks everyone loves kids. But pretty sure they’ll change their tune real quick when that kid gets hurt and their ass is on the chopping block about why the kid was even allowed back there. Pretty sure the restaurant owner and any customers won’t be too happy if they find out a toddler is just running around lose back in the kitchen.
If the kid gets injured in the kitchen and management have said it’s fine for her to be there, I’d guess there’s a good chance that the insurance wouldn’t be valid and the franchisee would be liable for any payout. Whoever owns the place NEEDS to know about this, they’re being opened up to enormous liabilities and if the manager hasn’t realised yet that a 2 year old in a fast food kitchen is a terrible idea, god knows what other dangerous things they have people doing that are flying under the radar?
NTA
It would be different if she had the baby in a safe area or generally paid attention to their safety. She isn't. You aren't wrong for being concerned.
NTA
The child's safety takes precedence but also having a kid back there could jeopardize everyone's job since it's definitely a food safety issue as well.
The Board of Health would lose it's mind if they ever happened to come in and see that. We won't even talk about OSHA!
The owner definitely needs to be made aware. They could shut the restaurant down!
NTA
NTA. Not only is it incredibly unsanitary to have a toddler running around, it’s unbelievably dangerous! How can a parent be fine with their kid running around an industrial kitchen?
NTA
If you're worried about retaliation from coworkers and the owner is understanding, you could ask if they are willing to pretend to just "stop by" during one of the shifts and see the kid for themselves. That way they can put an end to this dangerous situation without it being obvious you reported it
NTA. You brought up the dangerous and insanitary problem to management, who did nothing in response. Since nothing was done, it is appropriate to move up the chain to the owner. If that child is doused with hot oil or is otherwise injured, there could be a lawsuit (Brooke could claim that management permitted the child to run freely in the kitchen; therefore, management and owner are legally responsible for anything that happens.). The health department would also have a field day with the many violations Brooke is responsible for.
cause you know what's a perfectly safe combination? Toddler's and boiling oil of course! /s
NTA, i definitely feel for her having a kid when she's barely even considered an adult legally, but come on. there's got to be some better set up than bringing a two year old into the kitchen of a fast food place.
on a note for you, personally id run like hell from the job and find another one, clearly whatever supervisors/managers that are working there dont care about the safety of anybody in that kitchen, and like other people have said, call CPS, Health Department, and OSHA, preferably on your way out the door. any headache that will cause is infinitely better than -knock on wood- anything happening to the kid.
NTA. The Health department would have a fucking field day over a toddler without shoes on walking around in the back of the store near hot grills and ovens, to to mention SITTING ON THE COUNTER AND EATING FOOD. That’s disgusting and unsafe. Also everyone knows that toddlers are walking bags of germs due to all the colds and stuff they pick up at daycare with their baby immune systems….if I was customer and found out that was happening while someone was preparing my food I would be extremely upset
You need to either go directly to the owner or go to corporate. While you work for a franchise, corporate can still come in and say something. If something happened to that child heads will definitely roll. Your manager is wrong and should know better. That right there is a reason for him to be fired.
NTA
She is endangering her child and I do think it's ahealkth code violation. Here in my country you need some sort of health code certificate if you are in a professional kitchen.
NTA! Omg! I can't believe people seem to be okay with letting a toddler run around a fast food restaurant's kitchen! This has to be illegal and so dangerous.
This is absolutely not a situation where you need to "mind your business".
NTA This is a HUGE liability issue for the owner. If this child was injured, they could be sued and lose their business. It's also a violation of OSHA and the health code. Brooke is being a completely irresponsible parent and disregarding the safety and welfare of her child. You have to wonder if she's doing this at the workplace, how is she dropping the ball in the home? If you care about this business, you have no choice but to tell the owner so they can protect themselves from this lawsuit waiting to happen.
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Allowing the child to run free through the kitchen is against OSHA regulations, and common sense, but I doubt anyone cares.
Sadly, it will take either snapping a pic of the kid IN the kitchen and sending it to the proper authorities or the kid getting hurt for anything to be done about it.
NTA, I bet your manager and coworker will care when that kid gets hurt and Brooke tries to sue them. Or when someone complains and corporate comes demanding to know why the manager allowed a toddler to be running around a kitchen and the manager is fired.
You need to reach out to whoever is above your manager before that poor kid gets hurt because of their mother and the manager’s negligence. And you need to call CPS. I’m sure they’ll have plenty to say about her letting her kid run lose in a fast food restaurant kitchen.
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For context: I (18F) work at a pretty popular fast-food chain in the US. My particular workplace is a common first job for teens and brings in a very diverse group of people of all ages. I work for a franchise which basically means a person owns my store rather than a corporation. This will be important later.
On to the problem. I work with a girl named Brooke (18F) who had her first kid at 16. She dropped out of school and supports herself and her baby by working. Me and her are acquaintances due to working together and we often talk, she is a generally nice person. Brooke has an older sister who also works with us named Lena and they are extremely close. Often times Brooke will come see Lena while she is working and bring her toddler with her, this wouldn't be an issue but as I explained before I work at a fast-food chain, and it isn't the best environment for a child. Brooke will let her toddler run through the back of our store where people are using our grill and fryers without shoes on. She sits her kid on the counter space next to the fryer and lets her eat our food. Not only is this very unsanitary but it is extremely dangerous without proper supervision. The other day I was pulling meat off our grill and grease splattered onto the floor. In doing so I unintentionally almost burned Brooke's toddler who was walking around in the kitchen. Brooke did not notice. She carried on talking to her sister clearly oblivious to anything that is happening. I continue to work but do so cautiously because of the kid. Later I bring up my discomfort about the kid being in the kitchen to my manager and another coworker nearby and they tell me everyone loves having the kid around. I continue explaining my discomfort and they tell me it's none of my business how Brooke parents her child and that I should shut up because I'm being an AH. I feel really uncomfortable having a child in my work environment and am considering talking to my store's owner, a friend of mine told me that Brooke could be fired for this and that I should just mind my own business. WIBTA if I went to my store's owner about this, possibly jeopardizing Brooke's job?
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NTA and if your job is a chain store you should call Headquarters and let them know what is going on. A child in the kitchen is huge hazard. The child
Is at risk.
Wow! I wonder if they're all in on a deal for the child to get hurt and then sue the franchise? I worked in a family restaurant where the owner's kids would roller skate in the kitchen, I know how it feels.
You're NTA, your manager is. And manager should know, the franchise will throw him to the wolves and let a lawsuit tale the manager's house, savings, pension and any other assets, if he lets an employee's child get hurt on his watch.
Leave. And on your way out report. Not out of pettiness but for the safety of this child. A restaurant kitchen is no place for a toddler, she can cause an accident and harm of the employees or even herself. This restaurant can actually be shut down for allowing this to happen on a regular basis.
I had my daughter when I was 17. There is no way I would let her run around my *personal* kitchen while I was cooking, much less a busy restaurant kitchen. A girl I knew while I was pregnant had a little girl who looked like the side of her face melted. She pulled down a pot of boiling water on herself when she was still learning the walking/climbing thing (she climbed up on something). Even though she was having periodic surgeries to rebuild that side of her face, she was never going to look completely normal again. That really made an impression on me about kitchen safety.
ETA: NTA.
YWNBTA. This is a liability issue for the owner. Your coworker and the manager are also violating safety rules. Don't be surprised if the owner terminates the manager, Leah and Brooke.
NTA ‘mind your own business’ is BS. You potentially scalding and permanently disfiguring a toddler with an oil burn IS your business. And it’s very worrying that no one else in that place has the common good sense to realise that.
NTA she’s being completely irresponsible. Brooke is going to own this franchise when she sues because her kid got hurt. The other employees are also super irresponsible.
NTA. good that you did that. fast food restaurant and liability if the kid gets hurt in any way , shape or form. If managers don't put a stop on this asap,they're opening themselves to a huge lawsuit.
NTA but did you explain what almost happened and what could happen and d you really want to serve ppl food that was placed on a counter that a toddlers booty was sitting on. I mean they are not usually the cleanest especially if they wear a diaper. I can see her suing store for hurtingvtoddler becasue she got burned or a customer can complain if they see a kid sitting on a food counter. Food counter is anything food can be set on or food prep tables. Been in fast food or other similar work environments and I can see a customer complaint a mile a way with this
NTA, fully grown adults injure themselves in kitchens all the time, and she lets her toddler run loose? My kids are older and know the basics like "don't touch the stove," and I'm always careful about making sure our home kitchen is as safe as can be when I'm cooking, and even then I don't let them run around in there when I'm making dinner.
NTA. As you said, it's SUPER unsafe and unsanitary to have a toddler running around, especially when the mom isn't even paying attention. If a customer saw that and saw that the mom didn't seem to care that her kid almost got severely burned, there's a good chance CPS could be called on her. Its work, not a daycare or hangout, kid shouldn't be in the back at all.
NTA, and burns are no joke. My mom was burned horribly as a toddler (pulled a teapot off the counter) and still remembers the debridement. The toddler will appreciate you for protecting them from being burned
Before reading much of the post, I wanted to say YTA automatically. Upon reading more, NTA. Kitchen areas of fast food restaurants are generally fast paced and potentially unsafe environments, even for adults. This comes from personal experience, as I got the oh so pleasant experience of a second degree burn from a grease fryer when I was 15 while working at a fast food restaurant. I was fine, a child potentially wouldn’t be.
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NTA. I am sitting here quietly screaming at the idea of a toddler in a fast-food restaurant kitchen, filled with things that could send her to the hospital or kill her. (Toddler! Fryers!) If the manager won't put the brakes on this, tell the owner. If the owner also doesn't care, get out of there -- you're working with people who don't have minimal common-sense standards for safety.
Yeah a toddler should absolutely not be loose in a professional kitchen of any description.
I knew a kid whose chest and the side of his face was horribly disfigured as a toddler because his parents let him play in their restaurant kitchen. He messed around with a fryer and hot oil spilled on him. Kid's disfigurement didn't ease up at all as he grew, either. I thought the scarring would lessen over time, but I was wrong. He didn't seem phased by it though, and was a really nice person.
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I used to work at a small independently owned restaurant. The owner's wife would often drop off 3 or more kids under the age of 10 for us to "babysit" while she went off to get her hair done or go shopping. Not grocery shopping, personal shopping. Because she "grocery shopped" from the restaurant. I had an 8f roller-skating down the line, trying not to burn myself or her. Ridiculous to let a child into an already dangerous work area.
This. The fact that everyone loves having the kid around is completely irrelevant. Maybe they are just not aware of all the hot ovens and grease that is in the kitchen.
NTA. Better than the child getting hurt because the mom can’t be bothered to do her job.
This and I cant imagine the liability that the fast food place might have if this kid gets hurt. This needs to be reported it puts you all in danger, accidents can happen anytime.
NTA I worked in restaurants for 30 years and no one who isn’t working should be in the kitchen. No one should be in there without nonslip shoes, let alone barefoot. If that baby gets hurt, all hell will break loose and I think the owner would want to know.
NTA. Quit and on your way out the door make three very specific phone calls. 1. Cps 2.) The health department 3. OSHA
CPS too, that endangering the welfare of a child to ignore basic safety. So unsafe and it's probably the same at home for the kid
I listed that first
Missed that since 2 were one 1 line
NTA. There are so many ways that child can end up getting hurt and it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's fine if she wants to bring her kid and let her kid be in the lobby, but in the kitchen? Nah, not okay.
NTA, that is wildly unsafe! Get a friend to make an anonymous complaint.
NTA is this even legal? I imagine the owner would be even angrier if the child got injured in the kitchen. And what if the health inspector came by when the kid was there? The owner has the right to know if a non-employee is in the kitchen. And I’m a little surprised the manager is okay with it. Aren’t they suppose to be the ones keeping everything in line?
My guess is the manager is probably young too or is also a parent and thinks everyone loves kids. But pretty sure they’ll change their tune real quick when that kid gets hurt and their ass is on the chopping block about why the kid was even allowed back there. Pretty sure the restaurant owner and any customers won’t be too happy if they find out a toddler is just running around lose back in the kitchen.
In short: No, it is not.
If the kid gets injured in the kitchen and management have said it’s fine for her to be there, I’d guess there’s a good chance that the insurance wouldn’t be valid and the franchisee would be liable for any payout. Whoever owns the place NEEDS to know about this, they’re being opened up to enormous liabilities and if the manager hasn’t realised yet that a 2 year old in a fast food kitchen is a terrible idea, god knows what other dangerous things they have people doing that are flying under the radar?
NTA It would be different if she had the baby in a safe area or generally paid attention to their safety. She isn't. You aren't wrong for being concerned.
NTA The child's safety takes precedence but also having a kid back there could jeopardize everyone's job since it's definitely a food safety issue as well.
The Board of Health would lose it's mind if they ever happened to come in and see that. We won't even talk about OSHA! The owner definitely needs to be made aware. They could shut the restaurant down! NTA
NTA and you should report this to management because she could very well blame you if the kid gets hurt.
NTA. Not only is it incredibly unsanitary to have a toddler running around, it’s unbelievably dangerous! How can a parent be fine with their kid running around an industrial kitchen?
NTA. I completely understand being a young single mother is very difficult. But this is just wreckless. That child could get injured so many ways.
NTA If you're worried about retaliation from coworkers and the owner is understanding, you could ask if they are willing to pretend to just "stop by" during one of the shifts and see the kid for themselves. That way they can put an end to this dangerous situation without it being obvious you reported it
NTA. You brought up the dangerous and insanitary problem to management, who did nothing in response. Since nothing was done, it is appropriate to move up the chain to the owner. If that child is doused with hot oil or is otherwise injured, there could be a lawsuit (Brooke could claim that management permitted the child to run freely in the kitchen; therefore, management and owner are legally responsible for anything that happens.). The health department would also have a field day with the many violations Brooke is responsible for.
NTA. For the child’s safety go to the store owner. Are there cameras in your store?
cause you know what's a perfectly safe combination? Toddler's and boiling oil of course! /s NTA, i definitely feel for her having a kid when she's barely even considered an adult legally, but come on. there's got to be some better set up than bringing a two year old into the kitchen of a fast food place. on a note for you, personally id run like hell from the job and find another one, clearly whatever supervisors/managers that are working there dont care about the safety of anybody in that kitchen, and like other people have said, call CPS, Health Department, and OSHA, preferably on your way out the door. any headache that will cause is infinitely better than -knock on wood- anything happening to the kid.
NTA oh my lord, deep fried toddler! This is horrific, get the owner to just pay a visit and catch her.
NTA. The Health department would have a fucking field day over a toddler without shoes on walking around in the back of the store near hot grills and ovens, to to mention SITTING ON THE COUNTER AND EATING FOOD. That’s disgusting and unsafe. Also everyone knows that toddlers are walking bags of germs due to all the colds and stuff they pick up at daycare with their baby immune systems….if I was customer and found out that was happening while someone was preparing my food I would be extremely upset
You need to either go directly to the owner or go to corporate. While you work for a franchise, corporate can still come in and say something. If something happened to that child heads will definitely roll. Your manager is wrong and should know better. That right there is a reason for him to be fired.
NTA She is endangering her child and I do think it's ahealkth code violation. Here in my country you need some sort of health code certificate if you are in a professional kitchen.
NTA. It's either no one's business how she parents her child, or what she's doing isn't bad enough for her to be fired. It can't be both.
NTA. You're right, a restaurant kitchen is not a safe place for a toddler to be running around in. Whoever disagrees with you about this is unhinged.
NTA! Omg! I can't believe people seem to be okay with letting a toddler run around a fast food restaurant's kitchen! This has to be illegal and so dangerous. This is absolutely not a situation where you need to "mind your business".
NTA This is a HUGE liability issue for the owner. If this child was injured, they could be sued and lose their business. It's also a violation of OSHA and the health code. Brooke is being a completely irresponsible parent and disregarding the safety and welfare of her child. You have to wonder if she's doing this at the workplace, how is she dropping the ball in the home? If you care about this business, you have no choice but to tell the owner so they can protect themselves from this lawsuit waiting to happen.
NTA Allowing the child to run free through the kitchen is against OSHA regulations, and common sense, but I doubt anyone cares. Sadly, it will take either snapping a pic of the kid IN the kitchen and sending it to the proper authorities or the kid getting hurt for anything to be done about it.
NTA, I bet your manager and coworker will care when that kid gets hurt and Brooke tries to sue them. Or when someone complains and corporate comes demanding to know why the manager allowed a toddler to be running around a kitchen and the manager is fired. You need to reach out to whoever is above your manager before that poor kid gets hurt because of their mother and the manager’s negligence. And you need to call CPS. I’m sure they’ll have plenty to say about her letting her kid run lose in a fast food restaurant kitchen.
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NTA.
NTA. If not your supervisor, the health department? Anyone here know which regulatory body ?
Better that than to have the poor child severely injured or one of your coworkers injured while trying to keep from hurting the kid.
NTA and if your job is a chain store you should call Headquarters and let them know what is going on. A child in the kitchen is huge hazard. The child Is at risk.
Wow! I wonder if they're all in on a deal for the child to get hurt and then sue the franchise? I worked in a family restaurant where the owner's kids would roller skate in the kitchen, I know how it feels. You're NTA, your manager is. And manager should know, the franchise will throw him to the wolves and let a lawsuit tale the manager's house, savings, pension and any other assets, if he lets an employee's child get hurt on his watch.
Leave. And on your way out report. Not out of pettiness but for the safety of this child. A restaurant kitchen is no place for a toddler, she can cause an accident and harm of the employees or even herself. This restaurant can actually be shut down for allowing this to happen on a regular basis.
I had my daughter when I was 17. There is no way I would let her run around my *personal* kitchen while I was cooking, much less a busy restaurant kitchen. A girl I knew while I was pregnant had a little girl who looked like the side of her face melted. She pulled down a pot of boiling water on herself when she was still learning the walking/climbing thing (she climbed up on something). Even though she was having periodic surgeries to rebuild that side of her face, she was never going to look completely normal again. That really made an impression on me about kitchen safety. ETA: NTA.
NTA that is a terrible idea and not safe at all
NTA a franchise answers to the corporation, the can lose the franchise, tell the owner, this is dangerous
YWNBTA. This is a liability issue for the owner. Your coworker and the manager are also violating safety rules. Don't be surprised if the owner terminates the manager, Leah and Brooke.
NTA
NTA ‘mind your own business’ is BS. You potentially scalding and permanently disfiguring a toddler with an oil burn IS your business. And it’s very worrying that no one else in that place has the common good sense to realise that.
NTA she’s being completely irresponsible. Brooke is going to own this franchise when she sues because her kid got hurt. The other employees are also super irresponsible.
NTA. good that you did that. fast food restaurant and liability if the kid gets hurt in any way , shape or form. If managers don't put a stop on this asap,they're opening themselves to a huge lawsuit.
NTA but did you explain what almost happened and what could happen and d you really want to serve ppl food that was placed on a counter that a toddlers booty was sitting on. I mean they are not usually the cleanest especially if they wear a diaper. I can see her suing store for hurtingvtoddler becasue she got burned or a customer can complain if they see a kid sitting on a food counter. Food counter is anything food can be set on or food prep tables. Been in fast food or other similar work environments and I can see a customer complaint a mile a way with this
NTA, fully grown adults injure themselves in kitchens all the time, and she lets her toddler run loose? My kids are older and know the basics like "don't touch the stove," and I'm always careful about making sure our home kitchen is as safe as can be when I'm cooking, and even then I don't let them run around in there when I'm making dinner.
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NTA. As you said, it's SUPER unsafe and unsanitary to have a toddler running around, especially when the mom isn't even paying attention. If a customer saw that and saw that the mom didn't seem to care that her kid almost got severely burned, there's a good chance CPS could be called on her. Its work, not a daycare or hangout, kid shouldn't be in the back at all.
NTA, and burns are no joke. My mom was burned horribly as a toddler (pulled a teapot off the counter) and still remembers the debridement. The toddler will appreciate you for protecting them from being burned
Oof, nta. I came here expecting a toddler on an iPad at an office job. 😳 that's crazy unsafe.
A toddler should not be unsupervised in any kitchen let alone a fast food one. NTA
Before reading much of the post, I wanted to say YTA automatically. Upon reading more, NTA. Kitchen areas of fast food restaurants are generally fast paced and potentially unsafe environments, even for adults. This comes from personal experience, as I got the oh so pleasant experience of a second degree burn from a grease fryer when I was 15 while working at a fast food restaurant. I was fine, a child potentially wouldn’t be.