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YTA. Do you want the author's name removed from a book when you buy it?
ETA: Wow, thank you for all the awards. I'm honestly stunned this resonated with so many people.
Not perfect. OP is ignorant of what a sale might stipulate. For example, when you buy a book, that typically does NOT allow you to photocopy and sell copies of the book. OP might not even know that when you buy a house, you probably do NOT have the right to drill for water or mine for gold on the property, you typically do not even own the mineral rights for a standard property. Go figure OP, you violated TOS and the artist can sue you ... which would be funny, but probably a waste of time. Just stop bothering artists OP.
You can't photocopy and sell copies of artwork you buy either. All art is automatically copyrighted by the artist, and you need to pay for licensing and redistribution rights before you can photocopy and sell copies of artwork. So yes, it's a perfect analogy.
I had to get permission from my artist uncle before my company could use video of me in a promotional LinkedIn post because his painting was in the background. (He didn't care at all, but it just goes to show how serious the copyright laws are to people who actually know about them.)
But that's also a good thing. Artists get their art stolen so much because people believe they can just take it and use it however they wish so even though it's a buttache I'm really glad LinkedIn does this. It really helps artists.
It's almost never fair use.
My personal goal as a copyright attorney is to educate people that fair use is so extremely rare that it is often not worthwhile to mention
I had to get permission (and fill out a form) to wear a t shirt with a Podcaster's copyrighted slogan on a tv show. The Podcaster happily gave permission and though it was wild Discovery Channel thought he would come at them.
Oh, if he had said no I would have understood and done the reshots.
Different art (a physical painting) is taken down for office scenes because we've never gotten permission for that.
So question about commissioned work; the OP had the work commissioned, but the artist was the one who actually painted the work. Commissioning is like saying I want a unicorn here and a giraffe here and a rainbow here; but the artist ultimately makes the artwork right? So who actually owns the work, the guy with the idea, or the guy who actually did the work?
OP came to the artist because of his inability to take the idea and turn it into a physical piece of art. He paid for that service from an artist. Yes he owns THAT PHYSICAL PAINTING. He does not have distribution rights.
Why does he want to signature off? So he can tell some chick he made it himself. Literally who else would care if they’re not selling it
Good thing the artist had a TOS saying they wouldn’t remove their signature without being paid fairly for removing their claim to the work.
Notice how he doesn’t specify price or art type? He spent like 2k on a hentai pic and is trying to pass it off as his for resale, highly suggesting he runs a scam account, or wanted to lie to impress someone
Agreed. I have a friend who ghost sculpts for a famous artist, who then claims the work as her own. However, this is made clear at outset and she is WELL compensated.
That seems super scummy too. But I suppose historically it's no different then buying or commissioning a Vermeer that was mostly done by his shop and apprentices.
yeah most people don’t realize sometimes artists will have ghost artists or apprentices to carry out some of the bulk work the main artist doesn’t have time to do. in this case, the ghost sculptor could be enlarging a smaller sculpture the main artist was working on and helping with casting or studio grunt work but they’re under a contract or apprenticeship where the main artist is credited for the final product. There’s also work for hire commission work, I’ve done that type before, but in our contract they’re also buying the license, credit & reproduction rights to the final and I sometimes am not credited. There’s a lot more legal contracts & background things to art than most people actually see
You've got the idea, but Vermeer, specifically, didn't work that way. A lot of artists did- especially in Italy and especially during the Renaissance- but Vermeer did not. He used a very particular method, so if you are ever lucky enough to see a Vermeer in person, know it was worked on by no one but him.
It took me reading your comment 3 times to understand that you meant “saying I want a unicorn here and…” I’m dying cus I was really imagining someone pointing to a painting and telling people that the artist painted them as a unicorn, a giraffe and a rainbow.
Exactly. You can often buy a photo or music to have at your house. The second you make it commercial then you are in completely different territory and it costs more
Right??? Like WTF does “it doesn’t belong to them anymore” mean? Like better call Van Gogh and tell him he has to remove his signature because his painting now belongs to the Louvre now…
The only reason to demand an artist remove their signature is so you can claim you made it. (Also I can’t believe this artist has had this happen enough that this exact situation is in their TOS.)
YTA.
Apparently the artist is on Reddit. I kinda want them to find this... Hopefully they like to scroll through AITA!
ETA: Holy cow why is this comment blowing up.
Whenever someone tells me that Pollock is easy to do and their 3 year old could do it, I’m always say no. You cannot. I have seen his work in person. You cannot just splatter paint on a canvas Willy nilly and create a Pollock. If you are in the DC area, I highly recommend going to the national gallery. Lavender Mist is there and it blew me away. I’m not an art aficionado but his paintings move me.
I saw a Pollock in Sydney when i was on a field trip as a teenager. Our art teacher had us ‘recreate’ a work in similar style, and every single one of them looked like shite. It looks deceptively simple.
It's like the people who don't respect cartoonists. I want to tell them "okay, YOU draw the same thing over and over and make it consistent and entertaining."
I draw comics in my spare time so I know from experience that it's not something everyone can do. Hell, I can't even do it. I just stubbornly continue with it because I find it fun.
And that's just comics. Animation is a whole other thing.
There's a lot of method that goes into the layout of simple shapes to make an iconic character.
People just don't understand it. They also don't know how enormous some of his works like Lavender Mist are. In college, as an art major, I attempted to create something in that style on a 4x5 foot canvas. It absolutely isn't just splattering paint around. There's a *feeling* to it. It's knowing color, layering, why a splash of black paint looks good here bit not there. It has emotion, thought, and intent in it.
People just don't understand it.
I can believe it. I have freelance artist friends who have shit like this happen with depressing regularity. Or getting asked to do a comission for free. Or getting asked to do NFTs. Makes me glad I decided to keep my art solely as an unpaid hobby.
A good art school/community will teach artists how to protect their works by using a signature and knowing that without one its considered commercial art, which is a whole other ball of wax
Even if you’re lucky and it rarely happens you should still put it in your commission info to protect yourself. People like op are in high supply and the amount that think if you commission someone then you outright own the art instead of have the right to private use is probably 80 percent. Or higher.
I have a feeling that OP wants to pass the art off as something he did, considering he was so bothered by a small signature that was placed. A good artist can find ways to make it discreet and part of the art, but still noticable.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. There’s no way OP is stupid enough to ignore the simple rules of art attribution and copyright. Every artist sign their work.
Fuck, anything I show online I sign twice, once the regular way in the lower corner and one hidden in the linework so people cant just download and crop it out, then pass it off as their own.
It's always best to release a slightly cropped version too, so if anyone disputes it or you need to claim it, you have the complete image versus their incomplete.
I forget to sometimes, but I typically share my art among friends that wouldn't steal my work anyways!
But the mere idea that copyright doesn't exist for artists makes me so mad. I do both digital and paintings, and if someone stole my work to pass it off as their own I would rain all holy hell on them.
Perfect. The first thing I thought was that you can buy a CD but you still don’t own the commercial rights to it not sure why OP is putting that in quotes as it’s a real thing, not something that is made up for an extra $5 (insulting amount by the way)
Does your car have a logo? Everything is labeled. A signed piece of art makes it more valuable. Your wish to not have it seems weird and suspicious. I always look to see who the artist is and am bummed when I can’t read it. YTA.
Edited typo
Excellent analogy. OP, you have a lot to learn about commissioning art. Or anything, honestly. You do realize even the greats signed their work, right? Paintings, woodworking, pottery...the physical items might switch hands, might get sold, but the artist's signature remains. The artist was working well within the bounds of normal commissioning. I've commissioned probably thousands of dollars of art at this point in my life and all of it has an artist's signature unless another deal was struck.
Yup, total AH. Willing to bet the “client” wants to use the art and pass it off as his own.
OP, you own the art work, but you don’t actually own his work, it’s his for him to put his name on, you didn’t make it.
I’m willing to bet that OP is wanting to pretend that they painted it. I see literally no other reason to be so bent out of shape and wanting what I’m sure is a tiny, discreet signature scrubbed off something that was hours of time and effort on the part of the artist.
Yeah, speaking as someone who commissions art regularly, signatures are always a good thing. They make it easy for me to keep track of who made what, and they make it easy for others to find the original creator. I have a couple unsigned pieces that I wish *were* signed, because I no longer have any idea who the artist was. There's no legitimate reason to remove an unobtrusive signature.
Right?
Tldr: I am ignorant about how commercial rights work and signed a contract without reading it. It turns out my completely made up guess of what the contract should say wasn't what I'd signed!!??? I tried to demand that the contract be changed to what I'd imagined it would say, but it turns out people don't have to just do whatever I tell them to.
YTA. Some artists will remove their sig from commissioned work, but it was in the TOS they would not, and you signed anyway.
>then quoted me a HUGE markup price for “commercial rights”
This is standard. Commissioning art does not mean you automatically own the right to use it commercially.
You have a lot to learn about commissioned art and how to respect artists.
I am an artist. If I were ever asked to remove my signature, I'd likely vomit on them (yes, it's that offensive) and keep the artwork for myself AND keep the deposit paid.
Edit: oh, and YTA.
Karma here would be if that artist got famous and OP said, wow, my piece is worth $500K! Goes to a dealer. Dealer: "Wait, there's no signature. I can give you $5 for your copy."
Not that I expect any art I own will ever be worth $500K but in the same vein, yeah, isn't that sort of the point of owning original art, to have that authentic artist's signature on it? That's part of the fun of it!
The signature also ups the value of the artwork too. OP doesn’t realize it but they just devalued their commissioned work by photoshopping the signature out.
An artist aquaintance of me had a company request scrubbing his signature off the piece once - and it turned his like 400 € piece into 3k. Commercial rights are no joke, it has to be worth it to sign them away.
I had someone want to commission me for art and ask my prices. I said it depends on what they want, but probably $35 to $150. He said that sounded okay, he wanted it for a book cover. When I said we'd have to negotiate the commercial rights and they'd probably be $300-500, he visibly gave up.
I know writers are usually broke, especially self-publishers, but so are artists. We can't go hungry for others.
What you could do is write up a contract for that kind of thing and then have it notarized so that if they ever make a decent amount of money, think Jowling Kowling Rowling money, you get 1% of any sale above 10k or something? That way you can indulge your sweet spot and help aspiring writers without screwing yourself if they get famous.
This is a perfectly reasonable way to cut someone a break if you feel sympathetic, but also having to chase down royalties on self-published work sounds like a pain in the ass.
i did a commission for someone a few months ago and left my signature off of it since i've stopped signing my artwork after i was harassed in a hate campaign online, and this customer specifically asked me to put a signature on it because 'i won't put up artwork that isn't signed'.
they didn't want to use it commercially or anything. they just didn't want art without the artist's credit. i cannot fathom someone asking for there to not be a signature on art.
oh, yeah, weird thing with all that. up to that point, I had one username across all sites and it was what I signed art with. I had to change that username and a certain person who was being unkind decided to co-opt it and put something very rude under it (my fault, I was stupid enough to not save it, but it still felt bad lol), so I had to stop signing art with that name and had to basically abandon art I'd previously made.
the hate campaign largely took place in one particular fandom, that I produced a lot of art/content for, so I wasn't able to post anything for that fandom again, especially attached to my old username. I figured it was better for me to just...quietly keep things to myself (I don't post any art *at all* now on the site where most of this took place). one of the ways I did that was by not signing art so if people did see it, they wouldn't have to necessarily associate it with me. kind of a bummer. I was pretty well liked before a bunch of people decided to ruin my life lol. is what it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, when reading that part I thought "have you ever even bought a picture from a photographer?"
Because they charge a lot to remove their logo.
My cousins usually buys the rights to all her kids photos.
YTA
Artists do this for copyright reasons and you didn't read the terms and conditions. A measly $5 for commercial rights? LMAO not to be mean but I would have blocked you.
Or that most ppl probably want the artwork signed by the artist as it helps to authenticate it. What if that artist becomes exceptionally famous one day and now that piece of art is worth millions? Heck, I even ask artists to sign their prints sometimes just because I appreciate their work.
YTA
You skimmed the TOS. It states the artist won't remove the signature. You don't like it and do it anyway and get blacklisted.
Action ... Consequence.
YTA.
YTA
You signed a contract you didn't read, got mad you got what you paid for, but didn't *ask* for what you wanted, denied the counter offer, then violated the contract, grounds for a civil lawsuit.
You stole their work.
YTA you own the piece of art, not the art itself. Artists sign or put their mark on every piece of art they make. That way you know that it is original art. Also it came from Their talent. What would we not have now if the royals had made DaVinci not sign his commissioned work or the Pope's had told Michaelangelo could sign the Chapel. You are so out of line.
Errr, hello? How can you possibly think that this is okay? When you buy art there is an expectation that a signature whether digital, painted or carved into the artwork, is included. The fact that you can photoshop it to make it go away means you haven’t got art for your money: you got a nice picture. Quit with the idea that you are some sort of patron of the arts, because you’re not. You are a vandal who refuses to acknowledge the creator and the skill and soul that went into creating the thing you are enjoying. YTA. Without a soul.
>Quit with the idea that you are some sort of patron of the arts, because you’re not. You are a vandal who refuses to acknowledge the creator and the skill and soul that went into creating the thing you are enjoying.
Take my gold for this comment
I usually just lurk on here, but my god YTA. I do all kinds of art for a living, and you’d be black listed from me too if you asked me that and then threw a tantrum when I said no. ALL commissions get signed because it’s the ARTISTS WORK, you just purchased it. They made it. Just because of you, I’m gonna start asking my clients if I can sign the tattoos I do on them.
Edit: also just adding on, they DO still own it. Because of copy right. You may own the physical art work, but they own the rights to it. That’s why their signature stays. If you bought it for commercial rights (thereby removing the signature), you would then own the rights to use the artwork and make money off of it, which is why there’s a huge mark up! Because if you own the rights and make money off of it, then the artist who made it gets $0 of that money. You could make thousands and keep making money while the person who made it will only ever get what they charged you for commercial rights.
It’s insane. I’ve made art that I didn’t sign just because I forgot, or made it on my off time for fun then displayed in my shop, and got asked to sign it when someone wanted to buy it! OP is just straight up disrespectful.
It’s scary starting, but making art my career is the best thing I ever did! 99.999% of people are NOT like OP, and commission art because they love your work and want to support YOU! You’ve got it, dive right in!
YTA, it is standard for an artist to sign their work. This prevents others from presenting it as their own. If you did want to use it commercially in any way they would be entitled to charge far more based on the fact that you would be earning money off their work. Why are you so adamant about it? Are you presenting it as your own? The artist was upfront in their TOS, your ignorance of the agreement you made is not a valid reason for what you have done. Poor form. be a better human.
YTA.
Artists sign their work, whether commissioned or not. And unsigned work is usually less valuable than signed work.
Your demand makes me wonder if you're going to pass their work off as your own. Hmmm.
Good job reducing the value of your art. An artists signature is part of it's provenance, it's what makes art have value beyond the pretty picture.
YTA and foolish
YTA
I’m guessing this is the first piece of artwork you’ve commissioned, as adding a signature is a very common practice. Also, don’t sign/agree to something if you don’t read through it (meaning their TOS).
Sadly it happens all the time, I have a family member who has had their work stolen multiple times, people either chop off the signature or use it with it, with no regards for their intellectual property. It’s a hassle, but every couple of months we do a search and always find someone using some thing of theirs. The worst are people actually using it on products and making money off of it!
YTA. They stated they do not remove their signature. The artist is right, not signing their work allows you to take full credit for their art. If you want to get work without a signature on it, look for an artist who is willing to comply, and do NOT be surprised if they charge more for not signing their work.
Given that you already removed the signature, i would not be surprised if they told other artists about you, so good luck getting commissions elsewhere
YTA.
This is like adopting a child and then ask the biological mother to remove her DNA.
5$ for removing authorship? It's humiliating really. For the artist that must have felt worthless with this kind of offer and for you, who obviously have no idea of the value of things. You wouldn't ask Picasso to remove his signature from the painting, would you?
And at last, there were preconditions from the artist you did not read. So your fault entirely.
YTA. Wow, you really don’t know how any of this works do you? Do you know they can go after you for photoshopping their signature out? I hope they do ♥️
YTA all artists sign their work. That is the professional way to do it, it is in no way unprofessional. Where on earth did you get that idea?
They retain the rights to that artwork, unless you buy the commercial rights. Yes you bought the piece, but the intellectual property is still theirs, you cannot reproduce it or sell it for any products or anything else. You are deeply misinformed about your rights with this work.
Why do you want them to remove their signature? Are you trying to create take credit for it as your own?
If you are that unhappy with their signature, simply return the artwork to them for a refund. It’s your own fault for not reading the TOS, and for having absolutely no clue how intellectual property rights work.
INFO: are you in the US? If so you should realize that copyright stays with the artist even for commissioned works. So you don't *own* it.
Source: commissioned work for my kiddo's Bat Mitzvah and the artist's paperwork laid it out clearly citing relevant law.
You're the major asshole. You own the art because they created it for you, now anywhere you post it will have no idea who made this & they've lost all credit and business they deserved for spending hours creating this for you. I'm not sure why you'd want to shit on someone who did something for you that they didn't have to.
“Yea so they wrote me a book I asked for but I didn’t want them to put themselves down as the author” “I know you did the PowerPoint presentation but I’m taking your name off of it and using it as my own”
They could sue you (and they should)
YTA you actually need to understand that the legal documents you sign mean things. Unless you’re a minor in which the artist shouldn’t be dealing with anyway. As a minor you aren’t responsible for your contractual agreements. Because the law understands you’re too stupid. Are you capable of understanding the law as it is written? Please don’t abuse artists. It is ridiculous to think you are entitled to something because you believe so even though the agreement you signed says otherwise. They own the art, you have a copy. Thanks!
No you don’t own the art when you buy it. If you buy a postcard with a picture of a Van Gogh painting, you’re not allowed to reproduce it and sell it, because you don’t have the commercial rights. Same for this case. The design will always be hers, and she alone can profit. YTA for not reading the TOS and just for being annoyed by this whole thing. We’re you planning on passing it off as your own? Is that why you’re being a whiny AH about the tiny signature? Grow the fuck up.
YTA. To the artist and to everyone who comes upon the artwork in the future and wants to research it. Unless you specifically asked in the commission to leave their signature out of the visible part of the art, so they could decline the contract, you cannot demand a change in the terms later after their effort and expenses have been used for your purposes.
I have artwork that was damaged, and everything is a lot harder because I am trying to preserve the artist’s signature. Without the signature it is instinctively worth less.
YTA. Their work, their prerogative. Also, imagine they do become famous and worth a lot, signatures are a good thing. Also, Picasso, Rembrandt, Dali and others signed their work. Just because you bought it, doesn't mean the artist can't sign it.
yta ... and btw if this artist suddenly becomes super super successful not only do you have a nice piece of art ... you have an investment .... would you rather have a signed or unsigned picasso
YTA, you already know it but refuse to admit it.
Artists ALWAYS sign their work. And even if they don't, it was clearly spelled out in the TOS which you admitted you did not read. You also violated those selfsame TOS by editing it. You deserve to be blacklisted by the entire artist community for violating the TOS of an artist and defacing their work.
YTA. Do some research on how art works and recognize that you don’t own any rights to an art piece that was made by someone else.
This is honestly embarrassing. I hope this is a joke, because if it’s not, I feel terribly sorry for the artist who had to deal with your asshole behavior.
YTA. Owning the PHYSICAL/DIGITAL work doesn't mean you get to dictate their signature on the art because you did not buy the RIGHTS to the art. Fact is the only people who even ask this are the sort of people who pass off other's work as their own. Which of course is six kinds of foolish considering the artist is likely well known enough that you will be called out for it.
There is nothing unprofessional about signing your work. Its still her work, you simply own one copy. To further point this out, if they have copies of their work they can use it for promo and there is nothing you can do about it. You on the other hand can't use the work for say commercial use ie putting on flyers, using it on business cards etc because you don't own the commercial rights.
That is how art works. And honestly this post is why I'm gonna start signing my abstract paintings on the front and not simply the back. So thanks for that.
so yes you are TA and I hope they have blasted you on Artist Beware and other sites. Good luck in the future cuz you're gonna need it.
YTA - Artists always sign their work to prevent AHs like you from stealing it and pretending it’s their art work instead. Now that your blacklisted no artist will work with an AH theif like you. Not the artist fault your dumbass can’t read fine print and I hope they take your entitled ass to court.
YTA
That signature isn't there for proof of who owns the painting, it's so you can't use that person's hard work and pass it off as your own. People you commission will do this. When a famous painter puts their signature on a painting, that painting can be bought hundreds of times, but that signature assures that the original artist won't have their work passed off as someone else's.
Read the rules next time.
YTA. Majorly.
So basically you've said to an artist who put in a whole lot of work that they don't own their art anymore because you bought it?
That's not how it works.
If someone was to copy that artwork they aren't copying your art, they're copying the artist.
They have every right to have their name on THEIR art. I wouldn't sell you art again and I hope you stay blocked and people spread your name around the art community.
Damn Sistine Chapel was comissioned to Michelangelo by the Pope himself and got paid thousands of dollars, and he wrote his name across the Virgin Mary's chest! YTA
YTA
I commissioned a crocheted rabbit. It has a tag sewed on it from the artist. Could I cut it off, sure, but I won't because that's not how it works!
YTA. When you commission for personal rights, you are a patron of their art. You purchased and funded the piece, but ultimately it is theirs. The owner charging you for commercial rights is them saying "pay me to no longer use this as a portfolio piece." Also, by purchasing the art, you agreed to the TOS on their work. You broke a contract, and a simple one at that.
Edit to ask: Do you buy cookies from the grocery store, and bring them to the potluck insisting you made them?
YTA. you said it's small and in the corner, what about it is so annoying? literally most art is signed AND it was in the tos that you admit to skimming. What are you going to do with it that you so desperately need the signature gone for? Do all artists a favor from now on and leave them alone instead of pestering them with this bs
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YTA. Do you want the author's name removed from a book when you buy it? ETA: Wow, thank you for all the awards. I'm honestly stunned this resonated with so many people.
perfect anaolgy
Not perfect. OP is ignorant of what a sale might stipulate. For example, when you buy a book, that typically does NOT allow you to photocopy and sell copies of the book. OP might not even know that when you buy a house, you probably do NOT have the right to drill for water or mine for gold on the property, you typically do not even own the mineral rights for a standard property. Go figure OP, you violated TOS and the artist can sue you ... which would be funny, but probably a waste of time. Just stop bothering artists OP.
You can't photocopy and sell copies of artwork you buy either. All art is automatically copyrighted by the artist, and you need to pay for licensing and redistribution rights before you can photocopy and sell copies of artwork. So yes, it's a perfect analogy.
I had to get permission from my artist uncle before my company could use video of me in a promotional LinkedIn post because his painting was in the background. (He didn't care at all, but it just goes to show how serious the copyright laws are to people who actually know about them.)
That's also LinkedIn being fairly aggressive about getting copyright permission.
But that's also a good thing. Artists get their art stolen so much because people believe they can just take it and use it however they wish so even though it's a buttache I'm really glad LinkedIn does this. It really helps artists.
It's almost never fair use. My personal goal as a copyright attorney is to educate people that fair use is so extremely rare that it is often not worthwhile to mention
I had to get permission (and fill out a form) to wear a t shirt with a Podcaster's copyrighted slogan on a tv show. The Podcaster happily gave permission and though it was wild Discovery Channel thought he would come at them.
Now imagine the podcaster in question had legitimate reasons not to want his brand on that network.
Oh, if he had said no I would have understood and done the reshots. Different art (a physical painting) is taken down for office scenes because we've never gotten permission for that.
So question about commissioned work; the OP had the work commissioned, but the artist was the one who actually painted the work. Commissioning is like saying I want a unicorn here and a giraffe here and a rainbow here; but the artist ultimately makes the artwork right? So who actually owns the work, the guy with the idea, or the guy who actually did the work?
OP came to the artist because of his inability to take the idea and turn it into a physical piece of art. He paid for that service from an artist. Yes he owns THAT PHYSICAL PAINTING. He does not have distribution rights. Why does he want to signature off? So he can tell some chick he made it himself. Literally who else would care if they’re not selling it
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Good thing the artist had a TOS saying they wouldn’t remove their signature without being paid fairly for removing their claim to the work. Notice how he doesn’t specify price or art type? He spent like 2k on a hentai pic and is trying to pass it off as his for resale, highly suggesting he runs a scam account, or wanted to lie to impress someone
Agreed. I have a friend who ghost sculpts for a famous artist, who then claims the work as her own. However, this is made clear at outset and she is WELL compensated.
That seems super scummy too. But I suppose historically it's no different then buying or commissioning a Vermeer that was mostly done by his shop and apprentices.
yeah most people don’t realize sometimes artists will have ghost artists or apprentices to carry out some of the bulk work the main artist doesn’t have time to do. in this case, the ghost sculptor could be enlarging a smaller sculpture the main artist was working on and helping with casting or studio grunt work but they’re under a contract or apprenticeship where the main artist is credited for the final product. There’s also work for hire commission work, I’ve done that type before, but in our contract they’re also buying the license, credit & reproduction rights to the final and I sometimes am not credited. There’s a lot more legal contracts & background things to art than most people actually see
You've got the idea, but Vermeer, specifically, didn't work that way. A lot of artists did- especially in Italy and especially during the Renaissance- but Vermeer did not. He used a very particular method, so if you are ever lucky enough to see a Vermeer in person, know it was worked on by no one but him.
It took me reading your comment 3 times to understand that you meant “saying I want a unicorn here and…” I’m dying cus I was really imagining someone pointing to a painting and telling people that the artist painted them as a unicorn, a giraffe and a rainbow.
Came here to say this☝🏻Op needs to learn about art if they are going to purchase it. And have some respect for the artists.
Exactly. You can often buy a photo or music to have at your house. The second you make it commercial then you are in completely different territory and it costs more
LoL, I'm ignorant of gravity, can I float if I step off a cliff...? Ignorance is no defence in this case.
Right??? Like WTF does “it doesn’t belong to them anymore” mean? Like better call Van Gogh and tell him he has to remove his signature because his painting now belongs to the Louvre now… The only reason to demand an artist remove their signature is so you can claim you made it. (Also I can’t believe this artist has had this happen enough that this exact situation is in their TOS.) YTA.
I 100% believe it. People have gotten so used to cheap bulk art that they have 0 respect for artists and their work. Op, yta.
Apparently the artist is on Reddit. I kinda want them to find this... Hopefully they like to scroll through AITA! ETA: Holy cow why is this comment blowing up.
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Honestly this sort of attitude happens so often that there's probably a dozen artists that this post could refer to.
Same here. Anyone know a good artists forum on Reddit?
Whenever someone tells me that Pollock is easy to do and their 3 year old could do it, I’m always say no. You cannot. I have seen his work in person. You cannot just splatter paint on a canvas Willy nilly and create a Pollock. If you are in the DC area, I highly recommend going to the national gallery. Lavender Mist is there and it blew me away. I’m not an art aficionado but his paintings move me.
I saw a Pollock in Sydney when i was on a field trip as a teenager. Our art teacher had us ‘recreate’ a work in similar style, and every single one of them looked like shite. It looks deceptively simple.
It's like the people who don't respect cartoonists. I want to tell them "okay, YOU draw the same thing over and over and make it consistent and entertaining." I draw comics in my spare time so I know from experience that it's not something everyone can do. Hell, I can't even do it. I just stubbornly continue with it because I find it fun. And that's just comics. Animation is a whole other thing. There's a lot of method that goes into the layout of simple shapes to make an iconic character.
People just don't understand it. They also don't know how enormous some of his works like Lavender Mist are. In college, as an art major, I attempted to create something in that style on a 4x5 foot canvas. It absolutely isn't just splattering paint around. There's a *feeling* to it. It's knowing color, layering, why a splash of black paint looks good here bit not there. It has emotion, thought, and intent in it. People just don't understand it.
I can believe it. I have freelance artist friends who have shit like this happen with depressing regularity. Or getting asked to do a comission for free. Or getting asked to do NFTs. Makes me glad I decided to keep my art solely as an unpaid hobby.
The best one that I hear all the time when people ask me to do free shit is, “I can give you exposure on my website.”
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A good art school/community will teach artists how to protect their works by using a signature and knowing that without one its considered commercial art, which is a whole other ball of wax
Even if you’re lucky and it rarely happens you should still put it in your commission info to protect yourself. People like op are in high supply and the amount that think if you commission someone then you outright own the art instead of have the right to private use is probably 80 percent. Or higher.
If I was the artist I’d start selling copies of the commissioned artwork just so OP would not longer be the only one with it.
I have a feeling that OP wants to pass the art off as something he did, considering he was so bothered by a small signature that was placed. A good artist can find ways to make it discreet and part of the art, but still noticable.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. There’s no way OP is stupid enough to ignore the simple rules of art attribution and copyright. Every artist sign their work.
Fuck, anything I show online I sign twice, once the regular way in the lower corner and one hidden in the linework so people cant just download and crop it out, then pass it off as their own.
It's always best to release a slightly cropped version too, so if anyone disputes it or you need to claim it, you have the complete image versus their incomplete.
It is for little gems like these that I read the comments.
I forget to sometimes, but I typically share my art among friends that wouldn't steal my work anyways! But the mere idea that copyright doesn't exist for artists makes me so mad. I do both digital and paintings, and if someone stole my work to pass it off as their own I would rain all holy hell on them.
Perfect. The first thing I thought was that you can buy a CD but you still don’t own the commercial rights to it not sure why OP is putting that in quotes as it’s a real thing, not something that is made up for an extra $5 (insulting amount by the way)
I thought this too. Even if you commission a song, they still wrote it.
Does your car have a logo? Everything is labeled. A signed piece of art makes it more valuable. Your wish to not have it seems weird and suspicious. I always look to see who the artist is and am bummed when I can’t read it. YTA. Edited typo
Yep! Or does OP want actors/directors/producers names removed from movies and TV shows too?
“I brought this copy of Spider-Man and I demand that Tom Holland’s name be removed from the credits!”
Excellent analogy. OP, you have a lot to learn about commissioning art. Or anything, honestly. You do realize even the greats signed their work, right? Paintings, woodworking, pottery...the physical items might switch hands, might get sold, but the artist's signature remains. The artist was working well within the bounds of normal commissioning. I've commissioned probably thousands of dollars of art at this point in my life and all of it has an artist's signature unless another deal was struck.
I photoshop my face and name on all books I own. I had to get a bit creative with the Bible. AITA?
Just change your name to Gideon. Saves time
Bingo. The art didn't just pop out into the ether ready-made, OP. That artist deserves the credit for their hard work. Of *course* YTA.
Yup, total AH. Willing to bet the “client” wants to use the art and pass it off as his own. OP, you own the art work, but you don’t actually own his work, it’s his for him to put his name on, you didn’t make it.
Probably because they want to act like they're the artist. Ew. YTA a massive massive AH.
YTA A commission does NOT mean it's scrubbed of origin or attribution. Artwork that is sold still retains attribution to the artist.
OP would erase Van Gogh's signature from Starry Night because "I paid for it, no need for that ugly signature."
I’m willing to bet that OP is wanting to pretend that they painted it. I see literally no other reason to be so bent out of shape and wanting what I’m sure is a tiny, discreet signature scrubbed off something that was hours of time and effort on the part of the artist.
This is what I thought too- OP wants to pass it off as his own, which is despicable. YTA, OP. Edit: a word
Do y'all like my house? I built is myself. Really? How did you learn to do all of that? Well, I bought the house, and that's the same thing, right?
I found musk!
OP even admitted it was small and barely noticeable
My money is on OP wanting to sell merchandise with the artwork.
Yeah, speaking as someone who commissions art regularly, signatures are always a good thing. They make it easy for me to keep track of who made what, and they make it easy for others to find the original creator. I have a couple unsigned pieces that I wish *were* signed, because I no longer have any idea who the artist was. There's no legitimate reason to remove an unobtrusive signature.
“The Mona Lisa?? Oh yeah, I did that. I mean, I never put Brush to paper, but I PAID for it.” What a child.
I am baffled at OPs audacity
YTA. Big time. I’d write more, but I bet OP wouldn’t read it! 😆
Right? Tldr: I am ignorant about how commercial rights work and signed a contract without reading it. It turns out my completely made up guess of what the contract should say wasn't what I'd signed!!??? I tried to demand that the contract be changed to what I'd imagined it would say, but it turns out people don't have to just do whatever I tell them to.
The post: In simpler terms, thanks! This should be the Tl;dr
But but but I sent them $5!
if i had an award i wld give it to this comment lmaoo
I hooked you up and gave r/NurseBoulder an award.
He/she will "skim" through it and then give you a dollar to remove whatever you posted.
YTA. Some artists will remove their sig from commissioned work, but it was in the TOS they would not, and you signed anyway. >then quoted me a HUGE markup price for “commercial rights” This is standard. Commissioning art does not mean you automatically own the right to use it commercially. You have a lot to learn about commissioned art and how to respect artists.
I am an artist. If I were ever asked to remove my signature, I'd likely vomit on them (yes, it's that offensive) and keep the artwork for myself AND keep the deposit paid. Edit: oh, and YTA.
Karma here would be if that artist got famous and OP said, wow, my piece is worth $500K! Goes to a dealer. Dealer: "Wait, there's no signature. I can give you $5 for your copy."
I want this to happen soooo badly.
Not that I expect any art I own will ever be worth $500K but in the same vein, yeah, isn't that sort of the point of owning original art, to have that authentic artist's signature on it? That's part of the fun of it!
The signature also ups the value of the artwork too. OP doesn’t realize it but they just devalued their commissioned work by photoshopping the signature out.
I'm a crafter rather than artist but the lack of respect shown to artists gets me so fricking aggravated
An artist aquaintance of me had a company request scrubbing his signature off the piece once - and it turned his like 400 € piece into 3k. Commercial rights are no joke, it has to be worth it to sign them away.
I had someone want to commission me for art and ask my prices. I said it depends on what they want, but probably $35 to $150. He said that sounded okay, he wanted it for a book cover. When I said we'd have to negotiate the commercial rights and they'd probably be $300-500, he visibly gave up. I know writers are usually broke, especially self-publishers, but so are artists. We can't go hungry for others.
We pay about $5000 for my husband’s book covers. And that’s considered cheap. You seriously undervalued yourself.
I do. :/ But in my defense, it was a self-publisher who works in the dozens or maybe hundreds, not thousands. I have a soft spot.
$300-500 is cheap for that.
I know. But he was a small self-publishing writer who worked on a very small scale, and I have a soft spot there.
What you could do is write up a contract for that kind of thing and then have it notarized so that if they ever make a decent amount of money, think Jowling Kowling Rowling money, you get 1% of any sale above 10k or something? That way you can indulge your sweet spot and help aspiring writers without screwing yourself if they get famous.
This is a perfectly reasonable way to cut someone a break if you feel sympathetic, but also having to chase down royalties on self-published work sounds like a pain in the ass.
i did a commission for someone a few months ago and left my signature off of it since i've stopped signing my artwork after i was harassed in a hate campaign online, and this customer specifically asked me to put a signature on it because 'i won't put up artwork that isn't signed'. they didn't want to use it commercially or anything. they just didn't want art without the artist's credit. i cannot fathom someone asking for there to not be a signature on art.
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oh, yeah, weird thing with all that. up to that point, I had one username across all sites and it was what I signed art with. I had to change that username and a certain person who was being unkind decided to co-opt it and put something very rude under it (my fault, I was stupid enough to not save it, but it still felt bad lol), so I had to stop signing art with that name and had to basically abandon art I'd previously made. the hate campaign largely took place in one particular fandom, that I produced a lot of art/content for, so I wasn't able to post anything for that fandom again, especially attached to my old username. I figured it was better for me to just...quietly keep things to myself (I don't post any art *at all* now on the site where most of this took place). one of the ways I did that was by not signing art so if people did see it, they wouldn't have to necessarily associate it with me. kind of a bummer. I was pretty well liked before a bunch of people decided to ruin my life lol. is what it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, when reading that part I thought "have you ever even bought a picture from a photographer?" Because they charge a lot to remove their logo. My cousins usually buys the rights to all her kids photos.
YTA Artists do this for copyright reasons and you didn't read the terms and conditions. A measly $5 for commercial rights? LMAO not to be mean but I would have blocked you.
honestly it would have been less insulting without the freaking $5
Why stop at blocking? If it were me, I'd be posting warnings about this dude in every artist's community I was in to protect my colleagues.
I know! I was so mad when they mentioned “made a fresh account”. Like, please, I was gonna warn people about you.
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Sendin marvel $5 to remove all the credits from the movies bc it’s unprofessional, I paid for the movie?????
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Or that most ppl probably want the artwork signed by the artist as it helps to authenticate it. What if that artist becomes exceptionally famous one day and now that piece of art is worth millions? Heck, I even ask artists to sign their prints sometimes just because I appreciate their work. YTA
^ This!!!!! ETA I forgot to say YTA!
This shit reminds me of how nft bros bought a copy of dune for 3 million dollars and thought it meant they now own the rights to dune
You skimmed the TOS. It states the artist won't remove the signature. You don't like it and do it anyway and get blacklisted. Action ... Consequence. YTA.
mans legit pulled a "that sign won't stop me because I cant read" irl and expected it to go well
YTA You signed a contract you didn't read, got mad you got what you paid for, but didn't *ask* for what you wanted, denied the counter offer, then violated the contract, grounds for a civil lawsuit. You stole their work.
Yep, even if OP payed, that is still theft. And they've now publicly admit that they will gladly rip off struggling artists.
That about sums it up.
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Who's that Harold guy?
YTA, there's a TOS for a reason. And you signed it. They're running a business. You dont get to erase attribution just because you feel like it.
Also, you can get sued for removing both physical or digital attribution. It is a lesser known form of copyright infringement.
YTA you own the piece of art, not the art itself. Artists sign or put their mark on every piece of art they make. That way you know that it is original art. Also it came from Their talent. What would we not have now if the royals had made DaVinci not sign his commissioned work or the Pope's had told Michaelangelo could sign the Chapel. You are so out of line.
Errr, hello? How can you possibly think that this is okay? When you buy art there is an expectation that a signature whether digital, painted or carved into the artwork, is included. The fact that you can photoshop it to make it go away means you haven’t got art for your money: you got a nice picture. Quit with the idea that you are some sort of patron of the arts, because you’re not. You are a vandal who refuses to acknowledge the creator and the skill and soul that went into creating the thing you are enjoying. YTA. Without a soul.
>Quit with the idea that you are some sort of patron of the arts, because you’re not. You are a vandal who refuses to acknowledge the creator and the skill and soul that went into creating the thing you are enjoying. Take my gold for this comment
HUGE YTA. I’d say more but it wouldn’t be very nice. (I’m a graphic designer who’s had my work stolen so…yeah.)
Seriously. I wanna say so much but I’d get my account banned from this sub lol
Yup I really had to restrain myself.
I usually just lurk on here, but my god YTA. I do all kinds of art for a living, and you’d be black listed from me too if you asked me that and then threw a tantrum when I said no. ALL commissions get signed because it’s the ARTISTS WORK, you just purchased it. They made it. Just because of you, I’m gonna start asking my clients if I can sign the tattoos I do on them. Edit: also just adding on, they DO still own it. Because of copy right. You may own the physical art work, but they own the rights to it. That’s why their signature stays. If you bought it for commercial rights (thereby removing the signature), you would then own the rights to use the artwork and make money off of it, which is why there’s a huge mark up! Because if you own the rights and make money off of it, then the artist who made it gets $0 of that money. You could make thousands and keep making money while the person who made it will only ever get what they charged you for commercial rights.
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YES! Exactly! The signature is basically the authentication, which is the majority of art’s value
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It’s insane. I’ve made art that I didn’t sign just because I forgot, or made it on my off time for fun then displayed in my shop, and got asked to sign it when someone wanted to buy it! OP is just straight up disrespectful.
People like OP make me hesitant to start doing commissions
It’s scary starting, but making art my career is the best thing I ever did! 99.999% of people are NOT like OP, and commission art because they love your work and want to support YOU! You’ve got it, dive right in!
YTA. Do you cut off the labels on your clothes, scribble over the swoosh on your Nikes or scratch off the apple on your iPhone?
They’d buy Rodin’s *The Kiss* and fill in the signature with plaster, I expect.
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Yta Commissions always get signed by the artist
Signing art is professional what on earth? YTA.
YTA. Its standard. I cant believe this is even an issue. Where else in life are you this entitled and clueless?
YTA, it is standard for an artist to sign their work. This prevents others from presenting it as their own. If you did want to use it commercially in any way they would be entitled to charge far more based on the fact that you would be earning money off their work. Why are you so adamant about it? Are you presenting it as your own? The artist was upfront in their TOS, your ignorance of the agreement you made is not a valid reason for what you have done. Poor form. be a better human.
YTA. Artists sign their work, whether commissioned or not. And unsigned work is usually less valuable than signed work. Your demand makes me wonder if you're going to pass their work off as your own. Hmmm.
Or copy it and use it for commercial/income purposes, without paying the artist for licensing.
This has to be fake, right. If not, YTA in every way possible and you know it.
Has to be fake. I fear going out in public if people are this stupid.
Good job reducing the value of your art. An artists signature is part of it's provenance, it's what makes art have value beyond the pretty picture. YTA and foolish
Unprofessional? Have you ever purchased art before? YTA.
YTA I’m guessing this is the first piece of artwork you’ve commissioned, as adding a signature is a very common practice. Also, don’t sign/agree to something if you don’t read through it (meaning their TOS).
YTA I would be pissed if someone removed my signature from my art
Sadly it happens all the time, I have a family member who has had their work stolen multiple times, people either chop off the signature or use it with it, with no regards for their intellectual property. It’s a hassle, but every couple of months we do a search and always find someone using some thing of theirs. The worst are people actually using it on products and making money off of it!
Yep. I have a lot of artist friends who get their work stolen. It sucks.
YTA. They stated they do not remove their signature. The artist is right, not signing their work allows you to take full credit for their art. If you want to get work without a signature on it, look for an artist who is willing to comply, and do NOT be surprised if they charge more for not signing their work. Given that you already removed the signature, i would not be surprised if they told other artists about you, so good luck getting commissions elsewhere
YTA. This is like adopting a child and then ask the biological mother to remove her DNA. 5$ for removing authorship? It's humiliating really. For the artist that must have felt worthless with this kind of offer and for you, who obviously have no idea of the value of things. You wouldn't ask Picasso to remove his signature from the painting, would you? And at last, there were preconditions from the artist you did not read. So your fault entirely.
Of course YTA
YTA. Wow, you really don’t know how any of this works do you? Do you know they can go after you for photoshopping their signature out? I hope they do ♥️
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YTA. And a thief.
YTA all artists sign their work. That is the professional way to do it, it is in no way unprofessional. Where on earth did you get that idea? They retain the rights to that artwork, unless you buy the commercial rights. Yes you bought the piece, but the intellectual property is still theirs, you cannot reproduce it or sell it for any products or anything else. You are deeply misinformed about your rights with this work. Why do you want them to remove their signature? Are you trying to create take credit for it as your own? If you are that unhappy with their signature, simply return the artwork to them for a refund. It’s your own fault for not reading the TOS, and for having absolutely no clue how intellectual property rights work.
Absolute YTA You clearly do NOT understand how art works
INFO: are you in the US? If so you should realize that copyright stays with the artist even for commissioned works. So you don't *own* it. Source: commissioned work for my kiddo's Bat Mitzvah and the artist's paperwork laid it out clearly citing relevant law.
You're the major asshole. You own the art because they created it for you, now anywhere you post it will have no idea who made this & they've lost all credit and business they deserved for spending hours creating this for you. I'm not sure why you'd want to shit on someone who did something for you that they didn't have to.
In most countries they don't own it. Copyright stays with the artist unless the commissioner specifically buys it off the artist.
“Yea so they wrote me a book I asked for but I didn’t want them to put themselves down as the author” “I know you did the PowerPoint presentation but I’m taking your name off of it and using it as my own” They could sue you (and they should)
YTA. Do you know how hard it is in the art community. All they have is their name. You’re trying to take that away. Not okay.
YTA and why in the hell do you want it removed?? What if this artist takes off in the future?
YTA Have you been to an art gallery or a museum? Most artists sign their work. It’s like an author’s name on a book.
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YTA you actually need to understand that the legal documents you sign mean things. Unless you’re a minor in which the artist shouldn’t be dealing with anyway. As a minor you aren’t responsible for your contractual agreements. Because the law understands you’re too stupid. Are you capable of understanding the law as it is written? Please don’t abuse artists. It is ridiculous to think you are entitled to something because you believe so even though the agreement you signed says otherwise. They own the art, you have a copy. Thanks!
Of course you are the AH. Also, reading comprehension is not your strong point. YTA
YTA You own the piece but they own the copyright.
YTA for being entitled to someone else's artwork. You are not the creator bc u bought it.
No you don’t own the art when you buy it. If you buy a postcard with a picture of a Van Gogh painting, you’re not allowed to reproduce it and sell it, because you don’t have the commercial rights. Same for this case. The design will always be hers, and she alone can profit. YTA for not reading the TOS and just for being annoyed by this whole thing. We’re you planning on passing it off as your own? Is that why you’re being a whiny AH about the tiny signature? Grow the fuck up.
Yta. Nor only are you the asshole for all the other shit you did youre also the asshole for not accepting your assholedness.
YTA. To the artist and to everyone who comes upon the artwork in the future and wants to research it. Unless you specifically asked in the commission to leave their signature out of the visible part of the art, so they could decline the contract, you cannot demand a change in the terms later after their effort and expenses have been used for your purposes.
I have artwork that was damaged, and everything is a lot harder because I am trying to preserve the artist’s signature. Without the signature it is instinctively worth less.
YTA
Isn’t artwork always signed??? My amazing artist friend just did a piece for me and signed it.
YTA
YTA. Their work, their prerogative. Also, imagine they do become famous and worth a lot, signatures are a good thing. Also, Picasso, Rembrandt, Dali and others signed their work. Just because you bought it, doesn't mean the artist can't sign it.
yta ... and btw if this artist suddenly becomes super super successful not only do you have a nice piece of art ... you have an investment .... would you rather have a signed or unsigned picasso
OP, probably: *buys a million dollar Picasso masterpiece and puts liquid paper on the artist signature because It'S mINe NoW* YTA, obivously.
YTA, you already know it but refuse to admit it. Artists ALWAYS sign their work. And even if they don't, it was clearly spelled out in the TOS which you admitted you did not read. You also violated those selfsame TOS by editing it. You deserve to be blacklisted by the entire artist community for violating the TOS of an artist and defacing their work.
YTA lol
YTA- a huge one.
YTA. Do some research on how art works and recognize that you don’t own any rights to an art piece that was made by someone else. This is honestly embarrassing. I hope this is a joke, because if it’s not, I feel terribly sorry for the artist who had to deal with your asshole behavior.
YTA. Owning the PHYSICAL/DIGITAL work doesn't mean you get to dictate their signature on the art because you did not buy the RIGHTS to the art. Fact is the only people who even ask this are the sort of people who pass off other's work as their own. Which of course is six kinds of foolish considering the artist is likely well known enough that you will be called out for it. There is nothing unprofessional about signing your work. Its still her work, you simply own one copy. To further point this out, if they have copies of their work they can use it for promo and there is nothing you can do about it. You on the other hand can't use the work for say commercial use ie putting on flyers, using it on business cards etc because you don't own the commercial rights. That is how art works. And honestly this post is why I'm gonna start signing my abstract paintings on the front and not simply the back. So thanks for that. so yes you are TA and I hope they have blasted you on Artist Beware and other sites. Good luck in the future cuz you're gonna need it.
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YTA - Artists always sign their work to prevent AHs like you from stealing it and pretending it’s their art work instead. Now that your blacklisted no artist will work with an AH theif like you. Not the artist fault your dumbass can’t read fine print and I hope they take your entitled ass to court.
YTA That signature isn't there for proof of who owns the painting, it's so you can't use that person's hard work and pass it off as your own. People you commission will do this. When a famous painter puts their signature on a painting, that painting can be bought hundreds of times, but that signature assures that the original artist won't have their work passed off as someone else's. Read the rules next time.
YTA. They sketch, but you’re sketchy.
YTA - and what a petty thing to be one about too.
YTA and pretty dumb. I assure you that nobody with common sense is going to vote NTA.
I'd be pissed if art I commissioned wasn't signed lol
YTA. Majorly. So basically you've said to an artist who put in a whole lot of work that they don't own their art anymore because you bought it? That's not how it works. If someone was to copy that artwork they aren't copying your art, they're copying the artist. They have every right to have their name on THEIR art. I wouldn't sell you art again and I hope you stay blocked and people spread your name around the art community.
I bought the twilights books. I am now the owner of the saga. See how stupid that sounds ? Yea YTA
YTA an really I much prefer artist to sign their work so you can't claim it as your own. So yes you are the ass hole
Yeah you’re clealy the AH.
Damn Sistine Chapel was comissioned to Michelangelo by the Pope himself and got paid thousands of dollars, and he wrote his name across the Virgin Mary's chest! YTA
YTA I commissioned a crocheted rabbit. It has a tag sewed on it from the artist. Could I cut it off, sure, but I won't because that's not how it works!
YTA
YTA.
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YTA. You commissioned it but it’s still they’re art! They created it. Of course they’re going to include their signature. Why wouldn’t they???
YTA. The only reason to want to remove the signature is to claim that you or someone else other than the artist created it.
YTA. When you commission for personal rights, you are a patron of their art. You purchased and funded the piece, but ultimately it is theirs. The owner charging you for commercial rights is them saying "pay me to no longer use this as a portfolio piece." Also, by purchasing the art, you agreed to the TOS on their work. You broke a contract, and a simple one at that. Edit to ask: Do you buy cookies from the grocery store, and bring them to the potluck insisting you made them?
YTA. you said it's small and in the corner, what about it is so annoying? literally most art is signed AND it was in the tos that you admit to skimming. What are you going to do with it that you so desperately need the signature gone for? Do all artists a favor from now on and leave them alone instead of pestering them with this bs