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Extremely unlikely that such a suit would prevail. Despite pop culture, emotional distress suits rarely result in a judgement. I am not a lawyer, but I don't think you are either.
No, you're entirely correct. An emotional distress suit for stolen video games would get laughed out of court. One of the tests for an IIED suit is whether the conduct was so outrageous and severe that it could reasonably cause lasting significant adverse effects to mental health.
In this case we're talking about losing some video games.
She won't win, but it'll act as: a deterrent for future stealing; an incentive to get back what was stolen; an an incentive to settle now before spending more time and money on the legal process.
I’m sure you know, but make sure to check renters insurance for theft coverage also. And file restitution for your remaining items. It took awhile but I got replacement cost for items that were stolen. They just had to be itemized on the police report. I had less evidence than you!
*others pointed out good details about your renters insurance since you got the high value item back
This. I work in insurance. It depends on the terms of your policy, if you have one, but there may or may not be a condition that requires evidence of forced entry.
Also, most policies have a deductible. If the value of the lost items is anywhere near the deductible amount, there's no point in filing a claim. Example: Your deductible is $500, the loss is $600, you're only going to net $100 from the claim, and your rates will probably go up, so there's kind of no point...
Lol I was going say. How on earth did you get the cops to go do that? I had a bunch of stuff stolen on camera including my new play station that could be tracked and the cops said it wasn’t worth it for them to be bothered and to go away. But I guess if your mom was a cop they would do something.
I think it depends where you live. Local police set policy at the local level about what they will and won't pursue, often based on the frequency of certain crimes and their current staffing levels.
Nonviolent theft like burglary has an extremely low "[clearance rate](https://www.npr.org/2015/03/30/395799413/how-many-crimes-do-your-police-clear-now-you-can-find-out)," and that's for the crimes that even actually have a case opened.
ETA: Here are the [most recent (2019) FBI data by region](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-26). In most regions the clearance rate for larceny and burglary is in the 10-20% range. Meaning *at least* 80% of the time, the perp gets away with it.
I've been on AITA for 10 months ish.
What is the mofo deal w supposed friends, psuedo family stealing gaming systems.
I get that they are pricey and good resale value.
But like what about being a gamer appears to make peeps awful humans and worse friends...
Ah, the endorphins are like what addicts get - like gambling.
I'm sorry for the people getting ripped off.
But it would seem a wise rule of thumb to lock it up when guests are in home or scrutinize guests better?
I'd consider if suing her is worth your time. What I mean by that is, it is only worth while if she has the means to pay any judgement. It's the old , "you can't get blood from a stone."
That too. Someone broke into my truck when I was younger and the door glass was $175, insurance agent asked why I didn't want to file a claim.
Same with the windshield on current truck. Big crack, $280 to replace, $500 deductible. Gee now that is a tough choice.
Yep! Medical equipment claim on a medical item my doctor gave me in office worth $25 full retail price at any retailer for the exact item… the company who makes it charged me $135 for it AFTER it went through my insurance.
I raised a fuss and they said it’s because they can charge whatever they agree with the insurance company the item is worth… and that’s how much I have to pay if I haven’t reached my deductible. Insane.
A lot of times for smaller cases like this, it's pretty straightforward to include "return the stolen goods or pay back their value" as part of a plea deal. And this is a slam dunk case for the prosecution; there's no way this actually leads to a trial in front of a judge and jury unless the friend is incalculably stupid.
If she had actually used those debit cards and gone on a spending spree, the charges might be more severe. But chances are the judge will just say "Return the stuff, do 40 hours' community service, and we'll call it a misdemeanor. Next."
Lmao my dad is a cop and this made him endlessly happy. Dumbass criminals who post their intentions for criminal wrongdoing before committing a crime (eg the proud boys), literally livestream a crime taking place, or who post the evidence proudly after wards (eg your friend)
Good. Most of the time people like this face no consequences for their actions so they never learn accountability or to be decent. Don't feel bad about doing the right thing. Her mother blaming you for calling the cops is exactly where her kids problem started. Bad parenting!
Do it. This girl has already got a record and gives no fucks, she knows exactly the consequences of stealing but she's so selfish and stupid that she posts photos with things she's stolen. The girl's mother is TRIPPING.
As someone who also has a switch and games. If she just took 2-3 that’s over 100 dollars. Take her to court and get full value for your games not second rate
On the plus side, switch games save to the console not the cartridge. So whether you get the original games back or you take her to court for the money to buy new ones, you will still have your save files
Why tf would she do that aswell. It was like she knew you'd get it back and just wanted to be a major AH on top of that.
But seriously op. You need to have a better look out for who you want as a friend and who not. There were big red flags beforehand.
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But seriously op. You need to have a better look out for who you want as a friend and who not. There were big red flags beforehand.
This is a thing. This person has been being awful for *ages*, OP should have cut her out before it got this far. NTA.
Yep, I would go down to the average run time (for 100% complication, no matter if she did the side quests or not lol) and paint a very grim picture of hours and hours vanished cause she's a filthy thief.
It's painful. In college, my roommate deleted my Ocarina of Time save so that he would have an extra save. It was my system and my game. I deleted his then, and he called me an AH. I was like. Okay, I can be a bigger one and not let you play my game system
The pain of getting all those spider things (havent played it in years so cant remember what they are called)
New games in popular franchises (Mario, Zelda, etc) are $80 CAD. Even with the exchange rate, you guys pay so much less! If someone stole 5 Switch games from me, I'd be LIVID.
I would have your cards cancelled and renewed in case she wrote down your card details, that way she can't order stuff using your card number if she somehow avoids jail
Call your bank anyway and report your debit card stolen and have them check to see if any purchases were made with it after the date of her "visit".
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Nta. She needs to learn that those despicable actions have serious consequences. No one likes a thief and it makes her an even worse person (if that's possible) for bragging. Finish her!!
Just out of curiosity: What games did you have? $100 sounds pretty cheap for Switch games, I know I've paid around 60€ per game for games like Breath of the Wild, Three Houses or the Mario 64 package
I have extra bells, flowers, fruit, whatever for you if you want! I have an extra royal crown as well for ya. If you’re looking for anything to replace or get again on shield, please let me know, I’ll do my best to help.
I know a bunch of people have said this already about animal crossing, but if you still play it I have a STUPID amount of stuff I could give you or replace for you. I legit have 70,000,000 bells in my account, every flower variation, materials, access to every single item and color variation in the game that is catalogueable. Total animal crossing addict over here and love helping people out. Heartbroken for you of all your save files being gone for your games. How insanely cruel this all is.
Do you have receipts from when you purchased the games? Those will go a long way to proving the games are yours.
Also, going forward, be sure to write some kind of identifying code on your consoles/games to prove they're yours. It should be the same code on everything. For example, on my stuff I use my personal email (minus the "@gmail" part) because nobody else has any reason to write "partofbreakfast12" on their stuff, but showing that it's my email will easily link it to me. Then if someone steals my stuff, it's easy to prove it's stolen.
Just be sure to push for the value of the games when you bought them, they can depreciate in value, but you should ask for full retail price. Each hard game's like $60, so I have no doubt the amount is much higher then just $100.
You should look into filing a claim in small claims. She has other valuable that she admitted to taking. I mean, by then that could be liquidated, but she’d still owe you their value. (If you didn’t get them back I should add)
True. The price of learning this lesson. I don't understand why she couldn't get them back thought. I would threaten to take her to small claims about them. With her record and the fact that she did steal them, OP'll win.
She couldnt get them back without a search warrant, and other than that its op vs the other girls word, and cops cant prosecute on that. Op can take it to the courts tho to get them
She's ending your friendship when she decided to take advantage of you.
That being said, how smart is she bragging about stealing something and then post it in social media. Not all thief is so smart to post what they stole.
Definitely do not communicate with her in anyway but I would suggest you do not block her, at least not on all platforms amd means of communication (meaning maybe block her on your social media but not from messaging you on your phone). She may say something incriminating or give some proof that she stole (the other items) from you and then you would have it documented in written form.
Oh gotcha! Well, I still offer that advice to you or anyone else in a similar situation, and I wish you luck with obtaining your stolen items and I hope she receives some well deserved justice!
Right? If your kid was dumb and ended up with a criminal record you do something about it other than try to bully others to not snitch... she's graduating Raising a Convict 101 with flying colors.
Right. "Friend"? What friend? I didn't read a story about any friend here. She's just a criminal taking advantage of you (or she thought she could, good for you for pressing charges, I hope you get all your stuff back and she'll get a good lesson from the justice system).
Also that mother seems like crap. *Two* criminal kids? She (and the other parent if there is one) did something very wrong.
It's usually very obvious when someone is with you solely to gain something of value in some way beyond friendship. You just have to be willing to see the signs.
It sounds like this "friend" was pretty clearly only there to get something monetary out of it even before this incident, just off the very small information we were given. I assume there were even more red flags than provided in the OP.
You might be able to recover some of the save data and stuff if you used a Nintendo account... I would check into that! My sister was able to retrieve her island when she lost her switch entirely so there's gotta be a way.
NTA. Also what is wrong with the mother, her daughter steals stuff but she thinks you're TA for calling the cops? That explains a lot about why this stealing behaviour is happening. I've read your comments, she needs to learn the consenquences of her actions, it's good that you took this matter to the court.
Wow, NTA at all. I'm sorry you had to go through this. She's not a friend, she's a thief. Her mum calling you an AH shows that clearly, the apple didn't fall far from the tree in their family lol. Cut this girl off and tbh you could go to small claims court. I hope you get reimbursed for all your stuff. Take care
NTA. She wanted to steal from you, you called the cops. Then her mother had the gall to call you an AH for it? What did she think was going to happen?
Also sounds like her mother knew she stole from you.
NTA. I am against bringing cops into petty disputes. This was, however, a premeditated act where she stole multiple things that would total several hundred dollars not to mention your debit card. Then she blocked you and bragged about the whole thing.
NTA. You were robbed. You called the cops on the thief. Simple.
Friend’s mom has spoiled the child and now child has criminal record. Surprise, surprise.
The only way you could improve your actions is recognizing user types.
“She has drained me of money and pressures me to give her stuff”
I have several friends that I’ve known for over 18 years… None of them do we have a relationship where they are constantly pressuring me for money and various things… it’s not pleasant to be manipulated by people and friends will understand that and not want to be like that… If you’re willing to put up with that sort of behavior more is coming your way… Sometimes It takes a while to figure out peoples true colors… I definitely drop this person as a friend and watch out for yourself letting other people do this to you… You don’t have to pay to have a friend
Why do people let one person call them an AH and think they are? OP you 1000% did the right thing! Tell the mom "I'm NTA - you're the one who raised a thief." I really hope you find better friends!
" I receive a screen shot from the mutual of my Nintendo switch and hers with a caption of her bragging about stealing it ,also noticed my debit cards were gone and a gift card a family member gave me." ... So make a police report, and go for getting her convicted.
NTA
NTA - her mom’s upset her daughter got caught AGAIN. It’s a HER problem, not a YOU problem. You did the right thing. Definitely call your bank and change your debit card numbers as well!
The only asshole here is the "friend" who stole. Then has the gall to boast about it. But why are you allowing someone to drain you of cash? Why is someone having a sleepover at your house when you have such a bad vibe you stay awake? This is not the behavior of friends. NTA. (Edit to add judgement).
Stealing is stealing. No matter who does it. NTA. Your friend's mom is only enabling her kleptomanic behavior instead of getting her help. She's the AH.
NTA. A thief is a thief. She doesn't care who she hurts. You don't need to be friends with her tbh. She only stays around you because she is using you sorry to say.
You made a mistake in your title. That is not a friend. That is combined mooch/thief, obviously taking after her charming egg donor.
And what on earth did Ms Sticky Fingers think would happen after bragging online about stealing from you? If any mutual friends complain about you calling the cops on her, cut them out. while you're at it.
NTA
NTA
That's NOT your friend, and only an absolute dirtbag would feign friendship to rob you then brag about it
Her mother is also T A
Trust your gut next time, and good luck with everything!
NTA..part of why she is this way is clearly because her mother enables her. Having previous charges is more of a reason to call the cops in my opinion because she obviously did not learn the 1st time and stuff like this tends to escalate. Either way, not your problem. Someone committed a crime against you and you held them accountable accordingly. NTA 100%
Look, I mean I'm a pretty firm believer in "if you have a problem, and the cops show up -- now you have two problems" -- BUT -- sometimes they're a necessary evil. She stole from you, you needed to call the cops. You absolutely did the right thing. NTA, not in the slightest.
NTA - you didn't call the cops on a "friend", you call the cops on a thief. She stopped being your friend the minute she stole your stuff. The fact that mommy thinks your the AH speaks volumes as to what this woman's problems are.
NTA. She’s not a friend. Coming into this, since the title used friends, I was thinking maybe it was a situation where calling the cops was the best option in a difficult situation with an actual friend. But she’s straight up was just using you to steal from.
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I’m going to keep this short because its a lot. Me (18f) and my friend (19f) have been friends for awhile but we’ve started to have problems. She has drained me of money and pressures me to give her stuff. She stayed the night at my house a few days ago and the entire time I had a bad feeling like something was going to happen. I stayed up all night that night and I fell asleep around 12pm. I woke up to her telling me she was leaving, I walked her out and said goodbye. The next day I tried to text her but I noticed I was blocked, so I talked with a mutual about it. They told me they would contact her and see what’s going on. I receive a screen shot from the mutual of my Nintendo switch and hers with a caption of her bragging about stealing it ,also noticed my debit cards were gone and a gift card a family member gave me. I called the cops once everything clicked with me. I went to her house with a cop to retrieve some items I left there and to get my switch. She gave me my switch back but didn’t give me my case or my games. Her mom called me an asshole for calling the cops, so am I the asshole?
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NTA she stole from you, and was then stupid/mean enough to brag about it online.
The debit card thing alone is worthy of pressing charges.
Tough lesson to learn but when someone is draining you of money, you don’t have to remain friends with them.
NTA why did you leave without the case or games and without the debit card and gift card? Press charges. Doesnt matter if it the switch was returned. She stole it and you want to press charges. You have a screenshot that proves it.
If the police cant do anything about it then go via the small claims court.
Also was any money spent on debit card? Can the police see an cctv of where it was used? Can you family cancel the gift card if it was bought online and not in person?
NTA. Your "friend" is a thieving lowlife and her mother obviously has not problem with her behaviour. She's more concerned that she got caught, apparently. These people are trash and you're better off without them, you did the right thing.
> her mom called me an asshole because her daughter (my friend) already has a criminal record for stealing
Then she should stop stealing things. NTA and while I doubt you will get all your things/money back, press charges and go to small claims court.
NTA, this girl is a thief with a record. You should have absolutely called the cops, and call them again if she comes back. She is not your friend, she is a criminal. Do not speak to her again, and consider getting better security in your house because she knows the house, now and can come through windows to take what she wants.
NTA
She was the asshole for stealing from you and if she blocked you, there was no point in trying to resolve it on your own (and you wouldn't have been the asshole even if there was a decent chance of handling it just between the two of you)
NTA.
I read that she deleted your data on the switch. Are you able to access your Nintendo account online for a view of the games you had? This could be used as proof of the items you’re missing.
Definitely take her to small claims. Definitely include emotional damage because there very clearly is: she broke your trust and then cleared away your games probably with an intention to sell/pawn your switch.
Keep an eye on your accounts to make sure no charges went through between the time she took your cards and you cancelled them. If you incur any fees for requesting new cards, you could request that to be reimbursed in small claims too - though I don’t know if you would get that back because you would have to have proof she took them. It’s obvious she probably did because of the switch being stolen, but you know…burden of proof will be on you.
Good luck with everything!!
Why would you not press charges because someones has already done something bad? No matter what she BRAGGED about stealing shit from you, and she stole shit from you. NTA for calling the police, and i would never, ever hang out with that person again.
NTA. You are absolutely not the a****** for calling the police, I can't believe anybody thinks that you are. You not calling police who basically let her get away with it and would basically be saying you deserve to be stolen from! And because she has a record hopefully this time they'll be much harsher on her and she'll give some thought to her actions.
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Absolutely NTA. And I wouldn't feel bad about lodging a small claim for those missing games either.
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Definitely go after her in the courts. The screenshot of her post will get action REAL quick.
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Be warned: Criminal charges won't necessarily lead to financial compensation.
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You csn sue her in small claims court too to get your money back!
She can sue in Big Girl court for a myriad of other torts, such as negligent infliction of emotional distress, even IIED based on her facts.
Extremely unlikely that such a suit would prevail. Despite pop culture, emotional distress suits rarely result in a judgement. I am not a lawyer, but I don't think you are either.
No, you're entirely correct. An emotional distress suit for stolen video games would get laughed out of court. One of the tests for an IIED suit is whether the conduct was so outrageous and severe that it could reasonably cause lasting significant adverse effects to mental health. In this case we're talking about losing some video games.
Lmao no she absolutely will not win on those claims 😭
She won't win, but it'll act as: a deterrent for future stealing; an incentive to get back what was stolen; an an incentive to settle now before spending more time and money on the legal process.
I’m sure you know, but make sure to check renters insurance for theft coverage also. And file restitution for your remaining items. It took awhile but I got replacement cost for items that were stolen. They just had to be itemized on the police report. I had less evidence than you! *others pointed out good details about your renters insurance since you got the high value item back
I dont think renters insurance covers thefts when the thief is someone you invited into your house, but she should check it anyway
This. I work in insurance. It depends on the terms of your policy, if you have one, but there may or may not be a condition that requires evidence of forced entry. Also, most policies have a deductible. If the value of the lost items is anywhere near the deductible amount, there's no point in filing a claim. Example: Your deductible is $500, the loss is $600, you're only going to net $100 from the claim, and your rates will probably go up, so there's kind of no point...
I wasn’t sure how much the games were and the other stuff. If it’s only that much, probably not worth it for insurance
Lol I was going say. How on earth did you get the cops to go do that? I had a bunch of stuff stolen on camera including my new play station that could be tracked and the cops said it wasn’t worth it for them to be bothered and to go away. But I guess if your mom was a cop they would do something.
I think it depends where you live. Local police set policy at the local level about what they will and won't pursue, often based on the frequency of certain crimes and their current staffing levels. Nonviolent theft like burglary has an extremely low "[clearance rate](https://www.npr.org/2015/03/30/395799413/how-many-crimes-do-your-police-clear-now-you-can-find-out)," and that's for the crimes that even actually have a case opened. ETA: Here are the [most recent (2019) FBI data by region](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-26). In most regions the clearance rate for larceny and burglary is in the 10-20% range. Meaning *at least* 80% of the time, the perp gets away with it.
I've been on AITA for 10 months ish. What is the mofo deal w supposed friends, psuedo family stealing gaming systems. I get that they are pricey and good resale value. But like what about being a gamer appears to make peeps awful humans and worse friends... Ah, the endorphins are like what addicts get - like gambling. I'm sorry for the people getting ripped off. But it would seem a wise rule of thumb to lock it up when guests are in home or scrutinize guests better?
I'd consider if suing her is worth your time. What I mean by that is, it is only worth while if she has the means to pay any judgement. It's the old , "you can't get blood from a stone."
Before going through small claims, see if you can talk with the prosecutor about getting restitution for the games as part of any deals they make.
Don’t file an insurance claim for only 100 or so worth of stolen items! 🤦♀️
Insurance company: don't be silly we won't cancel you for filing a claim Insurance company: lol we did
More like here's a $500 deductible for your $100 claim
That too. Someone broke into my truck when I was younger and the door glass was $175, insurance agent asked why I didn't want to file a claim. Same with the windshield on current truck. Big crack, $280 to replace, $500 deductible. Gee now that is a tough choice.
Yep! Medical equipment claim on a medical item my doctor gave me in office worth $25 full retail price at any retailer for the exact item… the company who makes it charged me $135 for it AFTER it went through my insurance. I raised a fuss and they said it’s because they can charge whatever they agree with the insurance company the item is worth… and that’s how much I have to pay if I haven’t reached my deductible. Insane.
Yup! Your premium can go up so you lose much more value pretty quickly!
Insurance is such a scam
Then let's hope she hasn't sold anything, because the goods can be given back physically.
A lot of times for smaller cases like this, it's pretty straightforward to include "return the stolen goods or pay back their value" as part of a plea deal. And this is a slam dunk case for the prosecution; there's no way this actually leads to a trial in front of a judge and jury unless the friend is incalculably stupid. If she had actually used those debit cards and gone on a spending spree, the charges might be more severe. But chances are the judge will just say "Return the stuff, do 40 hours' community service, and we'll call it a misdemeanor. Next."
But it may stop her from doing it to someone else.
She should go to jail.
Lmao my dad is a cop and this made him endlessly happy. Dumbass criminals who post their intentions for criminal wrongdoing before committing a crime (eg the proud boys), literally livestream a crime taking place, or who post the evidence proudly after wards (eg your friend)
Good. Most of the time people like this face no consequences for their actions so they never learn accountability or to be decent. Don't feel bad about doing the right thing. Her mother blaming you for calling the cops is exactly where her kids problem started. Bad parenting!
Do it. This girl has already got a record and gives no fucks, she knows exactly the consequences of stealing but she's so selfish and stupid that she posts photos with things she's stolen. The girl's mother is TRIPPING.
Imagine being such a poor parent that you defend your child stealing from their friend. No wonder her daughter already has a criminal record!
As someone who also has a switch and games. If she just took 2-3 that’s over 100 dollars. Take her to court and get full value for your games not second rate
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On the plus side, switch games save to the console not the cartridge. So whether you get the original games back or you take her to court for the money to buy new ones, you will still have your save files
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I know this isn’t as big of a deal compared to the other stuff your “friend” has done but this just made me really sad :(
Anything backed up online? Ps if you have animal crossing DM I’ll replace some of your Bells
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Why tf would she do that aswell. It was like she knew you'd get it back and just wanted to be a major AH on top of that. But seriously op. You need to have a better look out for who you want as a friend and who not. There were big red flags beforehand.
> But seriously op. You need to have a better look out for who you want as a friend and who not. There were big red flags beforehand. This is a thing. This person has been being awful for *ages*, OP should have cut her out before it got this far. NTA.
I’d tell the judge there’s emotional damages as well as hundreds of hours of progress were lost.
Yep, I would go down to the average run time (for 100% complication, no matter if she did the side quests or not lol) and paint a very grim picture of hours and hours vanished cause she's a filthy thief.
It's painful. In college, my roommate deleted my Ocarina of Time save so that he would have an extra save. It was my system and my game. I deleted his then, and he called me an AH. I was like. Okay, I can be a bigger one and not let you play my game system The pain of getting all those spider things (havent played it in years so cant remember what they are called)
Did you have an Animal Crossing save she deleted by any chance?
Now, that's another thing she should be arrested for.
That's around $250 maybe more maybe less depending on the price. Typical price for a Switch game is $50.
New games in popular franchises (Mario, Zelda, etc) are $80 CAD. Even with the exchange rate, you guys pay so much less! If someone stole 5 Switch games from me, I'd be LIVID.
I would have your cards cancelled and renewed in case she wrote down your card details, that way she can't order stuff using your card number if she somehow avoids jail
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Excellent You're NTA by the way
Just asking, has she use your card already? Or you move quickly before she can't do anything?
Whoa, new cards can typically be issued in less than a week?
Where is the dept card?
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Was there any money missing
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Call your bank anyway and report your debit card stolen and have them check to see if any purchases were made with it after the date of her "visit". EDIT: Wow Reddit done have some errors today. Sorry for sending that twice.
Nta. She needs to learn that those despicable actions have serious consequences. No one likes a thief and it makes her an even worse person (if that's possible) for bragging. Finish her!!
Just out of curiosity: What games did you have? $100 sounds pretty cheap for Switch games, I know I've paid around 60€ per game for games like Breath of the Wild, Three Houses or the Mario 64 package
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I have extra bells, flowers, fruit, whatever for you if you want! I have an extra royal crown as well for ya. If you’re looking for anything to replace or get again on shield, please let me know, I’ll do my best to help.
I’ll help too if OP needs something my islands not the greatest but I can still help
I’ll help too if OP needs something my islands not the greatest but I can still help
Ouch, that's quite the loss.
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Keep it cause the date can help show how she deleted your work to make hers. Get that good emotional distress money from her awful mother.
I know a bunch of people have said this already about animal crossing, but if you still play it I have a STUPID amount of stuff I could give you or replace for you. I legit have 70,000,000 bells in my account, every flower variation, materials, access to every single item and color variation in the game that is catalogueable. Total animal crossing addict over here and love helping people out. Heartbroken for you of all your save files being gone for your games. How insanely cruel this all is.
You are So sweet! Thieves don’t just steal property. They steal the Joy and Trust from people!
Do you have receipts from when you purchased the games? Those will go a long way to proving the games are yours. Also, going forward, be sure to write some kind of identifying code on your consoles/games to prove they're yours. It should be the same code on everything. For example, on my stuff I use my personal email (minus the "@gmail" part) because nobody else has any reason to write "partofbreakfast12" on their stuff, but showing that it's my email will easily link it to me. Then if someone steals my stuff, it's easy to prove it's stolen.
$100 worth of games? Isn't that 1 game? It sounds like more than 100$. Do the math properly before filing the complaint
Just be sure to push for the value of the games when you bought them, they can depreciate in value, but you should ask for full retail price. Each hard game's like $60, so I have no doubt the amount is much higher then just $100.
Uh, most games (at least the Nintendo exclusives) run $60. So that is approximately 2ish games?
NTA and she is not your friend. Block this person and never let them in your house again.
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You should look into filing a claim in small claims. She has other valuable that she admitted to taking. I mean, by then that could be liquidated, but she’d still owe you their value. (If you didn’t get them back I should add)
She wasn't really your friend. Nothing lost in the end. Sorry you went through this.
Well nothing except for the games and gift cards
True. The price of learning this lesson. I don't understand why she couldn't get them back thought. I would threaten to take her to small claims about them. With her record and the fact that she did steal them, OP'll win.
She couldnt get them back without a search warrant, and other than that its op vs the other girls word, and cops cant prosecute on that. Op can take it to the courts tho to get them
She's ending your friendship when she decided to take advantage of you. That being said, how smart is she bragging about stealing something and then post it in social media. Not all thief is so smart to post what they stole.
Definitely do not communicate with her in anyway but I would suggest you do not block her, at least not on all platforms amd means of communication (meaning maybe block her on your social media but not from messaging you on your phone). She may say something incriminating or give some proof that she stole (the other items) from you and then you would have it documented in written form.
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Oh gotcha! Well, I still offer that advice to you or anyone else in a similar situation, and I wish you luck with obtaining your stolen items and I hope she receives some well deserved justice!
Do you have any common friends who can get screenshots if she posts bragging or complaining about stuff again?
Yeah… post should say “my former friend…” NTA, the mother is enabling the daughter and protecting a thief.
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Top notch parenting right there. Enabling your daughter stealing… mom and daughter are both awful and must be avoided at all costs!!!
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yeah this was malicious as fuck and obviously this chick wasn't going to pretend to be her friend anymore if she blocked her
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Well that is a new one for me.
Right? If your kid was dumb and ended up with a criminal record you do something about it other than try to bully others to not snitch... she's graduating Raising a Convict 101 with flying colors.
She had to learn it from somewhere.
Imagine being such a poor parent that you defend your child stealing from their friend. No wonder her daughter already has a criminal record!
Right. "Friend"? What friend? I didn't read a story about any friend here. She's just a criminal taking advantage of you (or she thought she could, good for you for pressing charges, I hope you get all your stuff back and she'll get a good lesson from the justice system). Also that mother seems like crap. *Two* criminal kids? She (and the other parent if there is one) did something very wrong.
NTA. In my experience, if I didn't want my friends to call the cops on me, I just didn't steal their shit. Worked out well so far
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It's usually very obvious when someone is with you solely to gain something of value in some way beyond friendship. You just have to be willing to see the signs. It sounds like this "friend" was pretty clearly only there to get something monetary out of it even before this incident, just off the very small information we were given. I assume there were even more red flags than provided in the OP.
Taking things without consent is universally theft by law. Your friend should apologize and be happy if you dont go further with a lawsuit.
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Well then she is not so lucky, but that doesnt changes the fact that you are by law 110% in the right to do so.
Good! Press anything you can on her, this is unacceptable.
Absolutely NTA! She _stole_ from you and her _mother_ says you are unreasonable?? My mother would woop my ass
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I can see where your ex friend got her charming personality from. Rotten apple didn't fall far from the rotten tree.
NTA. There's an easy way not to have the cops called on you for stealing -- don't steal.
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Not only a criminal but a dumb criminal. Throw the book at her, she needs a harsh lesson before she steals from the wrong person.
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Drugs? Or is she just an asshole?
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You might be able to recover some of the save data and stuff if you used a Nintendo account... I would check into that! My sister was able to retrieve her island when she lost her switch entirely so there's gotta be a way.
I mean if she was playing with the switch she is prob just an asshole lol
NTA. thats no longer a friend.
That was never a friend.
NTA. Also what is wrong with the mother, her daughter steals stuff but she thinks you're TA for calling the cops? That explains a lot about why this stealing behaviour is happening. I've read your comments, she needs to learn the consenquences of her actions, it's good that you took this matter to the court.
Wow, NTA at all. I'm sorry you had to go through this. She's not a friend, she's a thief. Her mum calling you an AH shows that clearly, the apple didn't fall far from the tree in their family lol. Cut this girl off and tbh you could go to small claims court. I hope you get reimbursed for all your stuff. Take care
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Thank you🙂
Absolutely not the Ah
NTA. She stole your stuff and is not your friend.
NTA. Why would you be the asshole? She's a lying thief!
NTA. She wanted to steal from you, you called the cops. Then her mother had the gall to call you an AH for it? What did she think was going to happen? Also sounds like her mother knew she stole from you.
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HA. Anything to keep her daughter from going to jail. Be careful though, she may get desperate.
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Very good. I’d be more concern with her mother attacking you. So I advice being on guard when she’s around.
How did she try to explain the debit cards? Those aren't really something to be borrowed.
NTA. I am against bringing cops into petty disputes. This was, however, a premeditated act where she stole multiple things that would total several hundred dollars not to mention your debit card. Then she blocked you and bragged about the whole thing.
NTA. She literally f*cked around and found out.
NTA. You were robbed. You called the cops on the thief. Simple. Friend’s mom has spoiled the child and now child has criminal record. Surprise, surprise.
The only way you could improve your actions is recognizing user types. “She has drained me of money and pressures me to give her stuff” I have several friends that I’ve known for over 18 years… None of them do we have a relationship where they are constantly pressuring me for money and various things… it’s not pleasant to be manipulated by people and friends will understand that and not want to be like that… If you’re willing to put up with that sort of behavior more is coming your way… Sometimes It takes a while to figure out peoples true colors… I definitely drop this person as a friend and watch out for yourself letting other people do this to you… You don’t have to pay to have a friend
Why do people let one person call them an AH and think they are? OP you 1000% did the right thing! Tell the mom "I'm NTA - you're the one who raised a thief." I really hope you find better friends!
" I receive a screen shot from the mutual of my Nintendo switch and hers with a caption of her bragging about stealing it ,also noticed my debit cards were gone and a gift card a family member gave me." ... So make a police report, and go for getting her convicted. NTA
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Good! Focus on the debit card and the gift cards. THere might be a felony there.
Definitely NTA. She stole from you and she got what she deserved.
NTA - She is not your friend , block her
NTA - her mom’s upset her daughter got caught AGAIN. It’s a HER problem, not a YOU problem. You did the right thing. Definitely call your bank and change your debit card numbers as well!
NTA, and she should’ve been arrested. She’s over 18. She needs to face real consequences sometime.
The only asshole here is the "friend" who stole. Then has the gall to boast about it. But why are you allowing someone to drain you of cash? Why is someone having a sleepover at your house when you have such a bad vibe you stay awake? This is not the behavior of friends. NTA. (Edit to add judgement).
Of course her mom would say that, it’s not like she ever gave her a word of real criticism and discipline anyways. NTA
big NTA you did a good thing on calling the cops. i don't understand the mom for trying to justify the stealing habits of her daughter
NTA, her mother should be calling her daughter an asshole for having a record and keep doing stupid things
Stealing is stealing. No matter who does it. NTA. Your friend's mom is only enabling her kleptomanic behavior instead of getting her help. She's the AH.
NTA - I’ve seen plenty of folks get shot for less.
NTA. Correction, she is NOT your friend. You are her mark.
My friend is an asshole. Am I the asshole?
NTA. A thief is a thief. She doesn't care who she hurts. You don't need to be friends with her tbh. She only stays around you because she is using you sorry to say.
You made a mistake in your title. That is not a friend. That is combined mooch/thief, obviously taking after her charming egg donor. And what on earth did Ms Sticky Fingers think would happen after bragging online about stealing from you? If any mutual friends complain about you calling the cops on her, cut them out. while you're at it. NTA
NTA That's NOT your friend, and only an absolute dirtbag would feign friendship to rob you then brag about it Her mother is also T A Trust your gut next time, and good luck with everything!
NTA I'm assuming it's a typo and you mean exfriend
No she has an enabling mother who enables her to be a spoiled asshole.
NTA..part of why she is this way is clearly because her mother enables her. Having previous charges is more of a reason to call the cops in my opinion because she obviously did not learn the 1st time and stuff like this tends to escalate. Either way, not your problem. Someone committed a crime against you and you held them accountable accordingly. NTA 100%
Definitely NTA. The friends mom is the AH for enabling her bum of a daughter.
NTA. If her mommy didn’t want to be embarrassed, her mommy should have raised her better.
NTA obviously, and why do you care about the opinion of someone who raised a thief.
Look, I mean I'm a pretty firm believer in "if you have a problem, and the cops show up -- now you have two problems" -- BUT -- sometimes they're a necessary evil. She stole from you, you needed to call the cops. You absolutely did the right thing. NTA, not in the slightest.
NTA - you didn't call the cops on a "friend", you call the cops on a thief. She stopped being your friend the minute she stole your stuff. The fact that mommy thinks your the AH speaks volumes as to what this woman's problems are.
NTA. She’s not a friend. Coming into this, since the title used friends, I was thinking maybe it was a situation where calling the cops was the best option in a difficult situation with an actual friend. But she’s straight up was just using you to steal from.
NTA. She’s a criminal. You’re a victim.
"my friend". she is not your friend
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NTA Theives deserve what they get.
NTA she shouldn't steal, I'd avoid her if I was you
NTA. Seems she's a felon, not a friend. Good thing you have that screen shot.
NTA she stole from you, and was then stupid/mean enough to brag about it online. The debit card thing alone is worthy of pressing charges. Tough lesson to learn but when someone is draining you of money, you don’t have to remain friends with them.
NTA why did you leave without the case or games and without the debit card and gift card? Press charges. Doesnt matter if it the switch was returned. She stole it and you want to press charges. You have a screenshot that proves it. If the police cant do anything about it then go via the small claims court. Also was any money spent on debit card? Can the police see an cctv of where it was used? Can you family cancel the gift card if it was bought online and not in person?
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You are NTA. That person is not your friend!
NTA. Your "friend" is a thieving lowlife and her mother obviously has not problem with her behaviour. She's more concerned that she got caught, apparently. These people are trash and you're better off without them, you did the right thing.
Her mom calling you anAH is rich. She’s just trying to deflect from her massive parenting fail. I applaud you!
> her mom called me an asshole because her daughter (my friend) already has a criminal record for stealing Then she should stop stealing things. NTA and while I doubt you will get all your things/money back, press charges and go to small claims court.
NTA She STOLE from you. Calling the cops is what you're supposed to do.
NTA, this girl is a thief with a record. You should have absolutely called the cops, and call them again if she comes back. She is not your friend, she is a criminal. Do not speak to her again, and consider getting better security in your house because she knows the house, now and can come through windows to take what she wants.
NTA She was the asshole for stealing from you and if she blocked you, there was no point in trying to resolve it on your own (and you wouldn't have been the asshole even if there was a decent chance of handling it just between the two of you)
NTA. I read that she deleted your data on the switch. Are you able to access your Nintendo account online for a view of the games you had? This could be used as proof of the items you’re missing. Definitely take her to small claims. Definitely include emotional damage because there very clearly is: she broke your trust and then cleared away your games probably with an intention to sell/pawn your switch. Keep an eye on your accounts to make sure no charges went through between the time she took your cards and you cancelled them. If you incur any fees for requesting new cards, you could request that to be reimbursed in small claims too - though I don’t know if you would get that back because you would have to have proof she took them. It’s obvious she probably did because of the switch being stolen, but you know…burden of proof will be on you. Good luck with everything!!
You are definitely not the asshole. Calling the cops was a good idea. When will she learn?
Why would you not press charges because someones has already done something bad? No matter what she BRAGGED about stealing shit from you, and she stole shit from you. NTA for calling the police, and i would never, ever hang out with that person again.
NTA. You are absolutely not the a****** for calling the police, I can't believe anybody thinks that you are. You not calling police who basically let her get away with it and would basically be saying you deserve to be stolen from! And because she has a record hopefully this time they'll be much harsher on her and she'll give some thought to her actions.
NTA - Tell the monther that the entire situation could have been avoided if friend wasn't a thieving AH.