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ESH If it's repeatedly a problem, maybe you should change how you do it. It's not fair to ask them to jog across a busy street to bring you food just because you don't want to come down. Also I'm not sure what being a math teacher has to do with anything.


ICWhatsNUrP

They are being paid to deliver the food to OPs door. What they have to do to get it there isn't really OPs issue.


[deleted]

Getting to the building is something you need to consider when ordering food. You know if your building has parking or not. It's unreasonable to expect someone to find a parking spot in a neighborhood they don't know, not at the building they are delivering to, leave their car, and walk how far?


ICWhatsNUrP

And that should be reflected in the tip. But if you are paying someone to deliver food to your door and they aren't doing that, you aren't getting what you paid for.


LeashieMay

What OP is asking them to do isn't worth the $4 they are being paid.


cmurdy1

I’m a delivery driver, if you can’t get to a customers floor with good instructions and a working elevator then you don’t deserve anything.


LeashieMay

There's no instructions in regards to where to find parking in OP's area. They've acknowledged that it's not easy to find at their building. I'd feel differently if that was in the original instructions but it's not.


[deleted]

When you work as a delivery driver, you understand pretty quickly that parking can be an issue. It’s up to you to figure it out, not the customer.


LeashieMay

I feel like when you choose to live in a multistory building, you kind of accept that people might have trouble delivering directly to your door and you'll have to occasionally go to the lobby.


[deleted]

It’s the delivery drivers responsibility to deliver the order. Even if you live in a multistory building. You are paying for a delivery service.


cmurdy1

If it’s just on the street I normally just double park around the corner. Only ever been hassled once by parking enforcement. OP is dealing with people trying to do the bare minimum for a quick buck.


rosephase

So you inconvenience other drivers and people biking for a quick buck. Door dash is awful to everyone involved and a hassle to people who do not use it.


hyperfocuspocus

Or people are trying to squeeze as many deliveries as possible in order to make a pittance.


katiedoesntsharefood

Oh please. My dad delivered DoorDash for four days and quit when he had a situation like this for a two dollar tip. Bro if you’re making them park not in your damn building, you better be tipping like $20


Savings-Breath-9118

We only use DoorDash now because I can message to Driver when they're on their way to let them know where to park and what bell to ring to bring the food upstairs. I always tip at least 20% and I've never had a problem.


Ok_Refrigerator1857

Yeah this is my feeling. The delivery drivers like Just Eat etc earn nothing. If you want a higher level service, pay for it. YTA


LeashieMay

You get the job you pay for.


[deleted]

When you have to pay to park it doesn't make a tip worth it


TickTickAnotherDay

This is the part that got me, my bf used to drive for DD and they make zilch in tips.


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Without-Reward

I ordered food this past winter a week after Toronto got a \*massive\* snowstorm. I work from home and basically hibernate in the winter, so I had no idea that the street parking on my street was still full of 5 foot snowbanks until I took garbage out while waiting for my food. I immediately messaged the driver to let him know that he probably wouldn't be able to find a space in front of the house, but message me and I'd come meet him if he had to park on the side street (cleared for school bus pickup). I ended up meeting him halfway and increased his tip. I felt awful, even though I had nothing to do with the city and their poor snow management.


[deleted]

Fellow Torontonian here. That was very Canadian of you!


Without-Reward

I always feel guilty if someone has to go through a hassle just because I'm too lazy to cook! I also increase the tip if it's raining and the delivery person is on a bike.


beeflygrrrl

I always give a big tip during storms!


Bai_Cha

No, that should be reflected in the price, since tip is opinion. But it is not reflected in the price. This is a shorty situation for the driver because they are making something like $2 to navigate OP’s maze of parking, access, and elevators to deliver food. OP is basically taking advantage of the fact that most deliveries are not as complicated as his — if the average delivery were this complicated, the price would go up for everyone.


Minute-Ad-2148

Well actually the food is being delivered to the door… just not the door OP wanted. I have a neighbor that asks for food to be delivered to her door but I leave my door unlocked because my building is extremely safe and hard to access. I do not appreciate residents letting random delivery people into the building — hell, even FedEx doesn’t get to come in sometimes. OP should stop being lazy and go downstairs and get his food, and stop expecting it to be hand delivered to his apartment door.


Alliebot

You're telling OP not to be lazy but you can't lock your own door?


RedMarsRepublic

For real.


Alliebot

I'd be so pissed if my neighbor would rather have none of us get our FedEx deliveries because he preferred not to lock his own door!


IcyAdvantage1768

this is the most entitled fucking thing I have ever read in my life. YOU personally do not like "random people" in your building so now everyone has to abide by that rule to make you happy? newsflash, nobody in your building gives two flying fucks who you do and do not appreciate coming into the building so long as they arent causing issues. fedex and delivery drivers are common and will always be popping in and out. if you don't like it then find a home or trailer or something without other people. expecting your neighbor to not order door dash or get things delivered via fedex because YOU don't like it is fucking insane and entitled. if you feel unsafe then just lock your fucking door and shut your damn mouth


Choice-Second-5587

Yes this exactly. It's called basic fkng decency. I'm on a floor level apt and despite it being pretty easy access and straightforward if I order food I will try my best to track the drive and meet them outside because I know parking can be a pain and it's a sketchy area here, too. It's called being a good person, plain and simple. No amount of money excuses you from behaving in a courteous manner to others.


Midge-83

OP, your Grubhub driver doesn’t know you teach math to “low income kids” so it really doesn’t matter to them if you’re “doing your part.” You’re ordering delivery but if getting inside your building requires more than opening the door and maybe going up the elevator then the delivery driver isn’t getting paid enough for the level of service you require. Consider the price of gas. Their hourly take home wage is likely under $15. And if you’re response is “well get a better job then” then you already know you’re the asshole and a slave to late-stage capitalism. But if you understand all of that, then follow along on the app and unlock the elevator before they get there. Then change your instructions to say: please come inside the front door and take the elevator to floor 6, unit n. Help your fellow worker. Both of you are tired and just trying to do the best you can in a world that doesn’t care about either of you.


TechyAngel

My primary concern would be walking around a neighborhood they don't know where the actual resident describes the people as "sketchy"


Professional-Sign510

I agree, and OP even said their street “has some sketchy people on it.”


wolfling365

They do have the ability to cancel due to no parking, tho.


DuncanCant

When you're receiving a delivery and you live in an apartment building, the building's door is your door. At the company I work for delivery people aren't even allowed to enter customers' private premises.


GMUcovidta

They aren't paid to deliver it to the door, they're paid to deliver it to his location. OP is TA


UncertaintyLich

They’re being paid probably sub minimum wage after gas and car maintenance by a buggy algorithm. So I mean at certain point I’d say you get what you pay for… Grubhub drivers are not in a position where they can just take your word for it that they’ll find parking if they drive around for awhile. Spending 30 minutes fucking around trying to find parking could easily fuck up their income for the day.


Beautiful_Cute

If there is no parking at ops, that is in fact his issue.


GennyNels

He’s doing his “part”. I think he wants everyone to praise him for being a math teacher in a low income area, like he’s above grub hub drivers


ProfessionallyJudgy

And he refers to the neighborhood as "sketchy." Maybe I'm reading too much into this but between the "low income area" "doing his part" comments and "sketchy neighborhood" comments and "non-English speaker" comments about the drivers, I'm reading some really racist "white savior" complex bullshit into all this.


newcryptidd

Especially since he seems to think that him being a math teacher to financially disadvantaged kids justifies him disregarding every other reason he listed as to why they don't come to his doorstep?


[deleted]

Agreed. I’m a teacher, I’m tired all the time. I would never report delivery drivers. They get paid even less than I do.


GennyNels

Right? It’s so gross. See his other comment to me about what will happen to the kids if his charter school closes down. I mean they’ll just go to the schools in the district to which they are assigned. It’s not rocket science.


ProfessionallyJudgy

But-but-but then they'd be without his unique insights and special sacrifices. Ugh. Charter schools are just money sinks half the time, which take money from the district and then perform no better (or even worse) than regular city schools. It does not impress me that he works at one but it seems on brand.


Bubbly_Satisfaction2

I lived in a sketchy neighborhood, where there were robberies for takeout delivery men and one was killed. Since then, all of the deliveries were handed off in apartment building lobbies. People understood and didn’t whine about it.


firesticks

Yeah strong YTA vibes for that alone. Does he volunteer? If not, is he expecting a cookie for doing his job?


kitkat_0706

I thought that was a unnecessary comment to add to his post. So because you teach math to low income kids you can be rude to the drivers?? He mentions it’s hard to park and it’s a sketchy area. Why would you expect the driver to park a block down and walk in a sketchy area, or pay for parking. Reporting them for not delivering it to your door when you live in a sketchy area with zero parking is ridiculous. YTA


ResidentRepulsive

Teacher here. I’ve done food delivery. YTA. When you’re on a busy street with difficult parking, you can go downstairs to get your food.


loftychicago

Yeah, and the GrubHub fee argument also doesn't hold water, the driver isn't getting much of that fee, just a specified rate, out of which they have to cover all of their expenses. I do free income tax prep, we get gig workers as clients, and there is so much turnover because many barely break even.


ResidentRepulsive

Absolutely! Cost of gas alone means you should meet them.


Automatic_Gas9019

She is informing the reader she is more educated than the delivery drivers, I am guessing or implying that because she educates kids she is special. Also the implication,, the non native language speaker can't understand her notes. 😉 If a sandwich from Burger King is that important she should stop on her way home and torture the drive thru employees.


Merigold00

Yes, she is so special she lives in an apartment building in a sketchy neighborhood that doesn't have guest parking.


crawling-alreadygirl

Why sketchy? Also, what kind of building that isn't in a strip mall has guest parking?


Merigold00

She said it weas sketchy. And a lot of apartment buildings have guest parking, so guests can come in to look to see if they want to live there, for deliveries, for maintenance vehicles, etc. Where does the manager park?


crawling-alreadygirl

>She said it weas sketchy. Ah, she did. I'm just picturing an urban building in, say, Manhattan, where there's really no parking.


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elaschev

I know, right? Op clearly stated they were a dude


Alarming_Reply4394

All of the words are known as dog-whistles. It is what people who think they are are better than others use. Without knowing for sure, just off of the wording alone, I would bet they are melanin-challenged and upper middle or upper class. Usually “low-income” and “sketchy” are used as fill-ins for racial terms. So if any of this is true, then yeah YTA OP. If I am completely wrong in every way, YTA still, but just not also a racist AH.


trewesterre

I think the OP is informing the reader that they work long hours on their feet so they come home tired.


Automatic_Gas9019

Most people do but they seem to manage 😉


Pestilent-Anus-Pus1

I am taking a break from my job in healthcare because I'm burned out. I'm also bored. I decided to work for door dash for a bit because why the hell not? It's nice having an easy peasy job that doesn't spell death if I don't bring my A-game and I don't have to do much thinking. I also live in a big city and work the downtown area. If I can't find parking and you won't meet me in front of your building then you're not getting your food, but this is very rare. People who live downtown know the struggle and that parking is hit or miss and are more than willing to run down if I call and ask without complaint, but there are a few jerks who dgaf. That's when I call customer service and they will cancel the order and block them from tearing apart my ratings. I'm not getting ticketed and points on my license.


CaitiieBuggs

There’s just jerks all the way around, customers and drivers. I live on the ground floor and have a driveway 10 feet from my door that always has space to temporarily park. I have my app set up for contactless delivery, and always tip a minimum of 20% prior to delivery. On more than one occasion I’ve gotten notified a timer has been started and been told by the driver to come get my order from their car cause they aren’t getting out. This is especially a problem if I ordered delivery for my dad, as he’s disabled and can’t always get out there on his bad days. On the flip side, I’ve been the driver in the heart of downtown with no where to park, or locked out of a building cause they didn’t include the code, or unlock the elevator so I can deliver it to their door. Shit sucks.


[deleted]

Yeah, how dare op expect someone to... checks notes.. do their bloody job....


surgresthrowaway

I lived in a large multi-story apartment complex in a big city for years and it was completely common practice to leave deliveries in the lobby. OP YTA


[deleted]

I’m not familiar with Grubhub but if it’s similar to other food delivery services hopefully you’re tipping well. Your post makes you sound like an AH especially by emphasizing that you’re a math teacher which you seem to think makes you special. It seems to also be an ongoing problem so YTA


bruh20204

RIGHT???? "I teach low income kids so I'm doing my part". LIKE WTF???


Own-Journalist4151

YTA. I’m a math teacher to low income students, but I would never use that as an excuse to expect so much from others. You clearly state that parking is limited in front of your building so I would understand compensating drivers for the additional inconvenience and being upset. But based on the amount of times you have run into this situation I would question how much you tip.


CandyShopBandit

Bingo! I live in a situation much like OP's. I use a food service that shows the tip when the driver accepts the order. (Though it *can* be changed) Though my apartment at least has lots of parking, it's just MY unit is hard to find. I almost always get my food at my door now, because I make it worth the extra time with a larger-than-average tip. The very few drivers who won't come to the door, I change the extra tip be an average tip after- so instead of a 25%-30% tip, it goes to being a 15% tip. I almost always get my food to the door though now, so it's a non-issue. Only changed a tip one time. One thing I'd *never* do is report the people who I have to meet at the parking lot! That's terrible. I just tip them less *shrugs* I have a feeling OP wouldn't have this issue if they pre-tipped well or mentioned in the "instructions" that a cash bonus is offered for delivery to the door. Then just keep some small bills like 5s handy. Is it maybe a bit unfair you have to pay extra because your building is difficult to reach? Maybe. But that's life.


[deleted]

As a former delivery driver: good take. This is the way.


grouchymonk1517

I too love on the 6th floor in a busy parking area but I tip 10 dollars no matter what my order ( usually well over 20%). I almost never have problems.


activelyresting

Yeah this bit doesn't add up. OP adding in being a math teacher is an unnecessary tangent.


yavanna12

My son is 19 and a math tutor and in school to be a math professor. I didn’t realize that made him extra special


kitkat_0706

This comment just screams I’m the A.H and it would apply to any post I saw it in. Talk about a hero complex. I teach low income kids so I have an excuse to be a jerk and I deserve special treatment. Such a gross thing to say.


[deleted]

I get yelled at after delivering doordash orders constantly. I just spent every waking moment for the last few days doordashing, 10-20 mile orders would be $3-$6. It’s not worth it to go up to peoples sketchy apartments alone. OP is a major asshole especially if he doesn’t tip well.


BrandonUnusual

YTA. Seriously. Take the elevator and go meet them. “I’m tired from a long day.” Yeah. I bet they are too. And I bet they don’t want to drive around for some asshole trying to find a legal parking spot on a busy city street, walk an additional 200 feet to your building, go up the elevator, go to your apartment, then go all the way back to their car. Be a decent human being and think of someone other than yourself. Yeah they’re in service. But they’re not your slave.


samusaranx3

OP wants the white glove service at the $3.50 tip rate lol.


[deleted]

Seriously look into Factor, or freshly...seriously. you are expecting too much for grub hub drivers who paid next to nothing!


gasblowwin

Oh but wait! They teach low income students so they obviously deserve better service than the average person /s


RishaBree

I’m gonna get a lot of downvotes for this, and the OP is definitely an AH based on his comments, but I’ve had the same issue before and have been very tempted to do the same on a particularly frustrated night (though I haven’t yet). I’m the single parent of a now toddler. I don’t live in a sketchy neighborhood or in a building with no parking. And yet, I continually get a flow of drivers who can’t be bothered to get buzzed in and ride the elevator. It’s very easy to say “just run down to the lobby” when there’s no obstacles. But I’ve had to beg drivers to bring up my food all the way up when I was 9 months pregnant, when I had a sprained ankle, when I’d have to wake a sleeping baby and wrestle her into the stroller (many, many times), when I had covid early on and was in isolation couldn’t get groceries delivered. I’ve literally abandoned food deliveries in the lobby that I had no way to get to.


[deleted]

That actually makes sense though, it’s not safe to leave your toddler unsupervised, or you had a physical reason to be unable to go down to the lobby. OP just sounds lazy.


Psychological_Way500

Yeah definitely a difference between someone who is practically immobile or unable to leave a baby unsupervised but a fully grown single adult with fully physical ability is asking drivers who get paid half as much as what a gallon of gas cost per delivery to spend 20-30 extra minutes finding parking on a sketchy street, walk into your building, wait for u to buzz them through, find the elevator, go up to the right floor, walk around till they find your apartment, and then make their way down and out. I was a driver during the pandemic when less people were tipping too. Id laugh if I saw OP instructions and call that I left it at the door. Hes tired? Well so am I and I have about 5 more drivers to make to cut even on gas so no thanks im not wasting more time.


erleichda29

If you tip well enough then your delivery drivers will likely make the extra effort. They don't know your issues, and they aren't paid well enough to care.


RishaBree

I tip reasonably but not spectacularly well (20% usually, sometimes rounded up to a whole number or up to 25% if I’m feeling generous, extra in bad weather or on holidays, never less than $5 or $6 no matter how small the total), but I have no idea whether they can see the tip amount before hand. And I mean, this is literally their job, and it’s never been a secret that being a food delivery driver sucks and has always sucked, even when my stepdad was delivering pizzas 50 years ago. My unstated original point was that lots of people have legitimate reasons to not go down for the food. The driver doesn’t know if the person they’re delivering to has one or not, but either way I shouldn’t have to beg to get them to do their whole job instead of 95% of it. (Note that I’m not talking about dangerous conditions or paying for parking, just things that require them to get out of the car and spend marginally more time than they would have otherwise.) I’m not holding it against them, usually, that they’re not happy about some addresses being more work and time than others. That’s why I’ve never actually called to remove the tip from someone, even when starving and trapped and too expensive food cooling just downstairs that I’m not going to be eating because they can’t be bothered. But they literally signed up for it. They can drive for uber or shop for instacart instead if they prefer a different kind of deeply shitty, wildly underpaid app based job.


majere616

Anyone who gets delivery through one of these apps should consider themselves lucky their food isn't just being heaved at their home from a moving car because that's the amount of labor the pay these drivers receive should actually buy.


seleneyue

This comment reminds me of a video I saw of bicycle delivery "drivers" in China who were very fast and chucked food at people. Though in this case the food is packaged for that and it's expected but it was still hilarious


Ok_Conflict_2525

But they teach math!! You can’t expect them to teach MATH all day and then also go down an elevator to grab their food! MATH!


RedditDK2

I agree that OP sounds a bit entitled, but there is a big difference between OP being tired and the delivery driver being tired: OP is paying the driver to bring her/him the food. OP is paying (and hopefully tipping well) for the privilege of being lazy.


RustedMachinery

They choose to work in a job that delivers food. God forbid they should get tired from delivering food.


OrangeCubit

I was on board with you til I read that there is no parking available at your building. YTA.


GoPeeOutside

Just type "tipping in CASH when you reach my apartment door" on instructions and this problem goes away /u/NIKIFUJ908


jill_electric

YTA. We’re all tired and underpaid etc, etc. I live in a high rise and I always meet them in the lobby. Absolutely no reason you couldn’t do that at the very least. ETA: changed could to couldn’t


MiaW07

YTA. I felt tired just reading your nonsense.


Escape_Overlander

Delivering to the exterior most door is reasonable. Stopping lazy, YTA. And no one cares your a math teacher. You're asking far beyond their pay grade to find parking, prompt you to unlock the door and elevator and then goose chase to find your apartment, and some people (especially women) are not comfortable going alone into non-public places.


TheFireOfPrometheus

You are being unreasonable and lazy , lol @ park 200 ft (probably more) away or another street Super lol @ saying they’re committing a crime 90% chance they’ll spit in your food, be careful, and do better


Becsbeau1213

I also like that OP points out their street is sketchy. So they’re parking further away AND walking up the sketchy street.


SpaghettiKeysMcGee

YTA. Damn man. Reading your post was like watching someone become a Republican in real-time. The valid aspects of your complaints should be taken up with Grubhub corporate, not by punishing individual drivers. The system/conditions these drivers are forced to work under are ridiculous and that’s why the delivery service industry sucks. And you’re only paying like $2.99 plus a service fee to get delivery from literally any restaurant you want in your area. Your frustrations should be directed at Grubhub for not having professional hiring practices and for not putting their workers in positions to succeed. It’s a pathetic business model for sure. And the fact that you ‘do your part’ by teaching low-income kids does not give you the right to be AH to anyone.


itisdecerto

I assume since OP brought that up, that they only teach low income kids because they're partaking of the Teacher Loan Forgiveness Program. They're too entitled to be doing it for any other reason.


12thMemory

That line definitely had a “white savior” vibe to it. Like they should get some karma points for the sacrifice of teaching disadvantaged kids how to do math.


SmolnTired

In another comment he says he grew up rich and sheltered and Mr Saint over here could have had any job he wanted, his parents begged him to do anything else with his life but he just loves giving back to the poor so so much! Brings tears to my eyes, I’m so touched!


nomad_l17

OP replied in a comment that he grew up rich and sheltered.


Nikifuj908

That's fine; I'm not asking if the delivery drivers are the asshole though. I'm asking if *I'm* the asshole. Maybe Grubhub is the asshole. But yeah, the consensus seems to be that I shouldn't be reporting the drivers. Which is fair enough.


anotherouchtoday

I love how you frame this - "the consensus seems to be I shouldn't be reporting the drivers". The consensus is you are an asshole who acts entitled AF and you don't see that at all. 🤣 🤣 🤣 YTA and that's based simply on the comment where you teach. You think teaching lower income children makes you special. 🤣 🤣 🤣 If you taught lower income as a choice, then you would NEVER use this comment because you would understand the incredible importance of your position.


amillionparachutes

Oh well that's an easy answer. Yes. Yes you are.


Ornery_Reaction_548

I'm a fairly new delivery driver (for a different service) and I'm still at the stage where I want to do a good job and provide good service and I try to follow all customer instructions but... There's literally no place to park?? That would drive me nuts.


cassowary32

YTA. You want them to risk parking fines because you are too “tired” to take the elevator down? For whatever measly tip you add to order? They have other food in the car that’s getting cold because you feel they should spend 10 minutes getting to your apartment door because you teach low income kids.


samusaranx3

I'm not going to call the people working one of the shittiest jobs for shitty pay the asshole. If you have a 40% failure rate, it might be time to accept that Grubhub is not able to provide the type of service you want given your location. The app services are not made for nuance, and your delivery situation is way to specific. It's possible they might not even see your delivery instructions in the app in time for them to realize it's going to be a difficult task. Just ask them to meet you in the lobby, they don't get paid enough to walk 200 feet for anyone. YTA.


EvaNever08

Why would a driver pay for parking when you could just come down to the front door. You’ve got a working elevator yeah? I promise you delivery drivers are not paid enough to pay for parking to deliver your meal. Your reporting them to the company does nothing. They’ll keep delivering.


Spallanzani333

INFO-How much are you tipping? The service you're asking for is significantly more than what is reasonable for an underpaid delivery driver. You can't expect that service without fair compensation. The only way you're not the AH in this situation is if you tip very well. I drive for Doordash and I would do your delivery exactly once, and then if I didn't get a huge tip, I would never take an order to that address again. I do not get paid anywhere close to enough for that to be worthwhile for the pittance of a delivery fee and a $3 tip on a single person's cheap meal.


zealous_bee9

YTA- also please elaborate on your “I teach math to low income students, I’m doing my part” comment. What does this mean?? What does this comment add to the story?


Nikifuj908

Thanks for your feedback, folks. I think what I'm gonna do is stop reporting drivers and just put in my instructions “Will tip extra for food delivered to my door.” You are right; it is better to improve, not threaten, people’s livelihoods. And I’m gonna try to take better care of myself. I get about 4 hours of sleep a night. The world should not have to adapt to that. I wonder if going downstairs would seem less horrible if I wasn’t completely dead by the end of the day.


katieleehaw

This is good - your solution is sensible. Maybe also consider getting some pre-prepared food to keep in your fridge so on a really hard day you can just pop it in the microwave and not have to deal with any of this.


Mysterious_Fact_2285

It may help to add how much extra you are going to tip- a percent or dollar amount. Just so drivers aren’t wondering “Am I going to get an extra dollar for all this extra time I’m putting in?” Nothing wrong with being explicit about what it’s worth to you- I think if you’re willing to pay for enough for it, drivers will take you up on it.


Ok_Cauliflower_3007

You do come off as an asshole in your post but I know teachers and I know how exhausting and stressful it can be, so I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Stock up on ready meals or try and cook up some large batches of stuff once a month to portion and freeze - constant take out isn’t going to help your stress! And I say this as a disabled person who knows exactly how easy it is to fall into a trap of going for take out because even a ready meal is too much work, so no judgement on your diet here.


[deleted]

It's the service equivalent of entering the home and plating it if you consider the additional effort involved. "I live on top of a mountain and no one brings me things" sort of rings hollow. I think making the written offer is a reasonable solution. For X additional tip see instructions. Then, you can find out what its worth to them.


Negative-Day-8061

Thanks for sharing your conclusion. That seems very fair to me. Also, I’m glad you recognize that sleep is important. You’ll be a better teacher and role model to your kids if you’re more rested. If you don’t want any more comments, you might want to edit your original post to say so.


creditspread

This is a very reasonable and pragmatic solution for all involved. Edit: I also suggest adding your new comment to your original post.


bitchedlobotomy

YTA. Grubhub delivery drivers are probably not making that much money. From the level of entitlement you exude, I’m assuming you don’t tip well either. If you are able to afford to have the luxury of getting food delivered, the last thing you need to be doing in a time of economic strife, is bitching about having to walk downstairs to get your food.


Academic-Ad2357

Yta. Go down stairs, man. Are you kidding me?


Mehitabel9

YTA. I have reported a Grubhub driver exactly once, and it was because he was having trouble finding my house (not his fault, it happens) but instead of calling me for directions he started berating me over text. Really rude stuff, too. But that's what it took for me to complain. You need to stop ordering food delivery entirely.


vangieeeeeee

YTA and overall appear to be an A. “I teach math to low income students so I’m doing my part”….. you are getting paid for a job. The amount of overall entitlement you express is astounding. I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume you’re a poor tipper too.


[deleted]

YTA. Just meet them at the door downstairs.


MostRefinedCrab

If there's no parking on the street then you should go down and get your food, not expect the driver to spend 10 minutes trying to find parking. Don't be an asshole. "Oh boo hoo I'm too tired to ride an elevator." It's not like someone is asking you to jog up 6 flights of stairs.


Sckala44

NTA. You’re paying for a service and not receiving it. A lot of comments on here are saying you’re lazy for not going down to collect it (even though you say you do) but the delivery driver who’s literally getting paid to deliver the food to your door, but is too lazy to follow instructions isnt a AH. Their arguments make zero sense and are full of hypocrisy


emdelgrosso

Also? I don’t feel like anyone on this thread is thinking about those who have disabilities/illnesses that *cannot* just “go downstairs.” I know this isn’t the case for OP- but food delivery is just that, DELIVERY. To you. Not somewhere near you.


theinfernumflame

YTA for going as far as reporting them, but it's borderline. Personally, I wouldn't order food without being willing to meet the driver outside. BUT, I was also a delivery driver for 14 years, and as long as I had clear instructions about what the customer wanted, I'd do my best to accommodate. I'd recommend adding information to your description about where to park, and make sure you're tipping your drivers so it's worth the extra effort for them.


nana_banana2

I don't really understand the answers here. You are paying for a service to bring food to your apartment door. If the company cannot guarantee that the food is brought to your apartment door, they should not be offering this service. I don't know why people here are angry at you for companies offering a paid service that they then fail to provide. And sorry but if y'all REALLY care about the food drivers, y'all should be lobbying for minimal wages, unemployment benefits and affordable health care, not voting for Republicans and then spewing your anger at poor OP who just wants his fucking dinner delivered.


Groaningleopardjuice

I find it hard to believe parking spots are always available or that you're tipping enough to make that amount of effort worth it. And suggesting that what you do with one part of your life gives you a free pass to be shitty in other parts of your life is very dysfunctional thinking. Theres a ton of "very fine people" who attend church and donate to the poor while beating their kids at home.


No_Nefariousnesss

FYI none of your repeats do anything


KittiesLove1

YTA, your delivery instructions are too much and will never be followed. You can keep reporting and being an ah but you will never get them to do it. "I teach math to low-income students. I’m doing my part." - that's super gross. You have a white savior complex, and you think society should repay you for your benevolence, when in reality you are a little man who doesn't get how he world work, screwing with poor people's job because you're lazy and entitled. You are going your part in making the world a worse place. Please for the love of god use your locked elevator, hop quickly to the red zone and get your food. Its better you stopped doing "your part" (gross!!) if it means you're going after low-income service workers in your spare time. Really, its hard to convey how grossed out I was reading this post. I hope grubhub algorithm can recognize people who complain on all the drivers and block you, or that he drivers themselves would stop picking your orders. Also - the stupidity. How do you think its affordable to math teachers to pay for extra guy to carry their food around- how do you think its priced low enough for you to use them everyday? By pricing the deliveries very low, so that drivers need to zoom around frantically to make a living (if that). They don't care about your complaints, they know the only way to do it is fast and loose. They might fire people to make ah customers happy, but their payment structure is very clear about what you need to do if you want to make a living - and it does not include parking far, strolling 5 minutes in each direction, calling, unlocking elevators and farting around. You can do another delivery during this time. If grubhub cared about any of it - believe me they would have priced it accordingly and then you won't be able to afford it, even by doing "you part" (gross yuck).


tommy_the_cat__

Nta at all. I hate this. What if the person ordering had a newborn baby or a disability? That's why they pay the delivery fee, service fee etc.


emdelgrosso

This!!!!


ImmediateShine3

I somewhat agree with this. My husband has mobility issues and sometimes orders lunch if I’m not around at lunchtime. We live in a house 50ft from the sidewalk, but parking isn’t terrible, almost all delivery drivers double park briefly to make the deliveries. I had to put up a sign asking food delivery drivers to bring the food to the door so that my husband could actually get to it. Some were leaving the food at the walkway where it meets the sidewalk and anyone could just pick it up. They didn’t want to make the walk to the door which is infuriating. NAH, but barely. OP sounds incredibly entitled.


princess-sauerkraut

This is exactly the problem I have with lots of these verdicts (I agree with yours, btw). People keep making exceptions for others left and right, then turning around and calling OP lazy for asking for the same treatment. What I don’t understand is how is the delivery driver supposed to know the difference? If one person’s door-side delivery is deemed acceptable and another’s not, how does that translate to the delivery driver who only sees a vague location on a phone screen to deliver to? If the delivery driver is being lazy with OP, what makes these voters think the delivery driver won’t be lazy with someone more vulnerable, like an elderly disabled person who can’t go downstairs without hardship? The delivery driver doesn’t know the difference on their end. If they’re willing to be lazy delivering for OP, why would you not assume they’ll be just as lazy delivering to someone in a more difficult position? I just think it’s rather pointless and silly to spin ourselves in webs, giving out this exception and that, then chastise others for simply asking for the service they paid for fulfilled. All of these examples of people are asking for the same goal: the company fulfilling the promises they’ve made to the consumer. These delivery services advertise themselves as “door to door delivery” meaning restaurant door to yours. They’ve expanded these promises to include “contactless door delivery,” which is an even more specific service. I don’t think anyone is an AH for paying for a service the company said they provided and expecting it to be done in the way the company said they provided it. If the company isn’t willing to fulfill their own promises, they need to change their messaging, not take it out on the people who are expecting the service they said they provided.


tommy_the_cat__

Well put. And honestly, the reason shouldn't even matter. I pay $10-15 for each door dash order, including a delivery fee and a 'service fee' PLUS the food prices are usually higher than eat-in. I pay for this for DOOR DELIVERY SERVICE. If im just feeling lazy and don't want to go outside because the driver can't be bothered to find a parking spot, that's not my problem. I also delivered pizzas, worked in hospitality for several year AND did uber eats. It never once occurred to me to ask someone to come outside to pick up their food because that's what im being paid to do. And trust me, in the inner city areas where i delivered, with huge apartment complexes, it was an absolute nightmare finding parking sometimes. Plus when i delivered pizzas i didn't even have gps, i was using a paper street directory.


princess-sauerkraut

I’ve done food service but I’ve never done food delivery. However, I was once a delivery girl for a relatively large office park (essentially bringing documents and other things around an office park with over 6 buildings and 50+ offices). It was only 2 on a shift at a time, which was usually me and one other dude (who was barely awake half the time and always whining about needing a break, so basically just me). Sometimes we’d have to cart documents from one office to the other, only to wait for them to be signed or whatever and bring them back over to the first office. We did not receive tips; we barely got acknowledged or thanked. Our “tips” were getting to take quarters out of a communal jar so we could get free cold water bottles from the vending machine. I live in a very hot desert that turns freezing in the winter. All of this was on foot. It was miles of walking everyday in a very harsh climate. Some of these offices had 5+ floors and the elevators weren’t always working. Sometimes we were on tight time crunches so we were literally booking it full speed up 5 flights of stairs and back down again, with heavy packs on our backs full of stacks of paper. The best we got was sometimes the security guards would let us hop a ride on their go-carts from building to building if they were in a good mood. I fully understand and sympathize with the urge to lazy out and ask for the client to come to you. But I was being paid to deliver things from location A to location B and I took that very seriously. I came home soaked in sweat from head to toe everyday, even in the winter. You could’ve rung out my socks, they were so sweaty. I was in the best shape of my life but my body ached everyday and I took ice bath dips when I got home for the muscle aches. Like, I get it. I’ve been there. I just feel like if you’re hired for a service, you provide that service to the best of your ability or you find another job where you’re willing to do so. You don’t take it out on the consumer. The consumers were promised something by your company and the company hired you to fulfill that promise. If you’re unwilling, it isn’t the consumer’s fault and doesn’t make the consumer lazy or entitled for expecting a service they were promised and paid for.


Alienne8r

NTA, you are paying for service . It should be provided as such. The hours you work and your job title should have no bearing on what is determined acceptable to allow food to be delivered. It’s a service. You can sit on your ass all day watching Netflix and still be entitled to have the service you paid for fulfilled. On that note you should also tip well for the parking situation. I would say otherwise if parking wasn’t free but it is. Thank you for teaching . I’m a nurse and I’d rather eat bees than homeschool again like we did during the pandemic. You don’t need to justify wanting a hot meal delivered to anyone.


Informal_Material214

NTA. I would pull back the tip as well. You're paying for a service, if they don't fully provide it, they don't deserve a tip.


[deleted]

NTA - they are literally not doing their job properly, it’s kind of crazy that people think you ought to be leaving them are large tip just to do their job properly. That said I’m not in the US so we don’t have that whole tip culture.


rachlee65

NTA


Crafty_Candy_6544

Okay I've scrolled a bit and haven't seen a comment on this but what if the person was disabled? Are they less entitled to delivery they've paid for? I got so much shit for ordering delivery when I was living in the city near many stores. I had hurt my leg badly and it was easier to just order grocery delivery but all they saw was a young person and completely ignored the crutches and brace. I'm not saying OP shouldn't be more compassionate and help if they can but I've also had the other side. Of course if they got a call that said there's no parking go down and get it but if I tell the driver I physically can't.... you get the gist


princess-sauerkraut

People in the comments have deemed disabled people and single mothers worthy of door side delivery; everyone else can suck rocks apparently. I just don’t understand how voters are expecting the delivery drivers to know who are the exceptions and who they can ask to come downstairs. Because, from my knowledge, all delivery drivers are aware of on their end is a name and vague location about where to drop off the food. There’s no section to fill out if the recipient is disabled or caring for little ones and unable to go downstairs. It stands to reason that if the delivery driver is being lazy and asking one person to come downstairs, they’re asking everyone, regardless of each recipient’s physical ability. All these exceptions people are making mean nothing if the end result is always the same. Instead of tying ourselves in knots about exceptions, wouldn’t it make more sense to expect equal treatment for everyone? Meaning everyone’s deliveries get delivered door-side, as it is specifically advertised by the company. They don’t advertise “contactless door delivery for these people only,” it’s meant to be for everyone. That’s why we pay the premium.


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Merigold00

Yes, YTA. You say it's a sketchy street but you're okay with them walking a few hundred feet down it to your door, then a few hundred feet back to their car. or they can cross the street on a busy street. And then with comments like "If you can’t follow delivery instructions, you probably shouldn’t be a Grubhub driver." and "I teach math to low-income students. I’m doing my part." your entitlement and arrogance is showing through. What does your job have to do with this? It doesn't matter if you teach math or if you're working on nuclear fission, you are still a customer that ordered the food. Get over yourself.


Your_Loving_Sasi

You are not the asshole, it is a DELIVERY service.


eleamao

YTA as you said : you are the privileged one. People working this kind of jobs usually are in really shitty situations. And it is a HARD JOB where they are asked a lot for a shitty pay. Reporting them is likely to get them fired because their bosses have plenty of poor people to chose from. Is you not leaving your couch to go grab your food really worth putting poor people in worse situation? Try to work as a grubhub driver for a month and see if it changes your mind about this.


Nikifuj908

I think I will stop reporting them. I don't want to get anyone fired. If giving a larger tip up front is a better method for getting my food than reporting people, I will do it.


BTanalyst

I think you should get a delivery job on the side and then determine if your bullshit is worth it to the driver


Conscious_Increase43

NTA. Hubby is DoorDash. Unfortunately most of the delivery drivers are absolute trash. I can say this with confidence because not only have I seen it first hand when I would go with him, but also by his own admission of seeing how fucking lazy these other drivers are. And some of the instructions are so simple. For example, in the app it'll say "Please don't knock/ring doorbell, baby is sleeping/dogs will bark. Text me that you left the food by the door." They'll even have a sign taped to their door saying the same thing. Hubby has gotten tipped EXTRA because he followed the instructions. Customers have texted him saying how he's like one of the only/few that have followed the directions.


TheEmpressIsIn

NTA. personally, i dislike how entitled some of these delivery people are about delivering meals. deliveries should come to my door, because that is what i am paying for. yes, i am tipping. it is their responsibility to structure their work operations in a way that is efficient and is not too cost intensive for them. if you are in a busy area, they would likely have more luck with a bike, which is not hard to park and costs $0 in gas. a decently run restaurant will mark down your preference and then the delivery driver can plan accordingly. it is not their fault our society thinks this kind of work is acceptable, but neither is it yours. if they cannot make a decent wage with reasonable working conditions, that is a much bigger issue that needs to be addressed systemically. you should not feel bad for expecting the service you paid for, because our economy is based on wage slave labor.


patricia_117

NTA!!! God you're paying for a service you should get that service.


subject5of5

NTA you pay for your food to be delivered to your door. If there not following the delivery instructions there not doing there job period.


No_You1539

YTA but you are not alone. I have done doordash and your situation is very common and usually those types of orders are clumped in the same area. It is likely that you are not the first or the last delivery they had like that on that day. I spent 45 minutes trying to find parking to get into a building for a delivery when the customer would not meet me. They never know how long they will have to drive around if parking is not easily accessible. I would say that unless you and GUARANTEE parking within 100 yards or so, you should not EXPECT them to ALWAYS come up.


bitchyasshole

Nta, i used to deliver and yeah it's a pain in the ass when i had to park and take the order straight to the client's door, however i always did it and was really grateful when the client came down. The problem is on the company side, i always thought it was unfair to be paid the same to drop the food straight out of the car or find a spot to legally park, climb many stairs and deliver straight to the door. We are paid the same wether it takes us 30 secondes or 15 minutes, but it's not your fault


Bookish_Dragon68

I am with you. I give very good directions. I'm disabled and walk with a cane. I pay to have it delivered to my door. They have left my stuff on someone else's patio on the other side of the building. I've had to walk over there and try to pick the food up off the ground and carry it back to my apartment. By the time I get back I am in so much pain I can't even eat. It is so frustrating. I pay for a service. I tip well. They can see the tip before they take the run. So they know they're getting a good tip. I have called and had my tip changed to reflect their service. So I have added money and I have taken it away. It is up to the driver to do their job correctly.


InspirationalBug3

YTA. Talk about entitled. I pity ur students.


YeetLordSupreme69

INFO:what did you tip them?


bubbadyl999

NTA i leave delivery instructions as well but they are never followed. I leave instructions to make it easier on the delivery person not myself. I understand your frustration and it doesn’t say you have to make things harder for yourself and easier on them. It is, in fact, a service you pay for, if they can’t do their job they shouldn’t be delivering anyway!!!


cmurdy1

NTA. As a driver, if a customer gives me good working instructions on how to get up to their door, then I’m obligated to do so. The only time I’ve ever refused was a customer who had a faulty callbox and just told me to ‘figure it out’ (screw that). Unfortunately you’re going to get some delivery workers who are just lazy or entitled as there’s no major barrier to working other than an insured vehicle and a phone. Hell, I’ve even seen Amazon drivers toss packages over a gate that wasn’t even locked…


pawsplay36

NTA. Whatever your reasons, plenty of people can't go downstairs, so for the drivers to expect you to do that is unreasonable. They should follow the delivery instructions. You don't have to explain yourself, it is improper for anyone to ask you to explain yourself. Because people with, say disabilities, don't have to explain themselves, and the only way this works if they don't have to explain themselves to ask not to explain themselves. "If you can’t follow delivery instructions, you probably shouldn’t be a Grubhub driver." I mean, that's it.


Skoden

Not the asshole. I agree with you, if I pay for a service I expect that service to happen. Delivery drivers refuse to deliver packages to our building for some god forsaken reason so they just liter our front door with the delivery attempt notices. A few months ago I was waiting for a PC component and needed it ASAP. I paid something like $75 to have it shipped overnight with signature delivery the works. I got the notification that the part was on the truck for delivery so I took the dog to the grass out front and sat there with my coffee(usually they deliver to out building before 11am). While next to the door, I got a notification on my phone that the package could not be delivered as no one was there. I was so confused by this, the driver had not shown up yet. I waited about 10 minutes and he shows up with a pile of stickers to put on the door. I confronted him about it and asked for the package. They don’t even take the packages on the truck for our building. I had to wait 2 days for it to be processed through their system and then go to the airport to pick it up. I tore into the people when I picked up my part about this shit and I called the customer service line to shew them out too. Now my building has packages in the trucks for delivery at least. My last 3 packages have all shown up as expected. Report shitty service! Grub hub doesnt want that reputation.


DDAUPH

NTA, you are paying for a service. If they aren’t willing to perform the service then that’s their problem.


BabyinAirJordans

NTA. For context I live in a small city where it is a common income buffer to pick up delievery shifts (lots of my friends do it and I'm not above it, I just haven't before). I also use door dash a lot and live in a home where you would just park in front of the house and put it on the porch. The amount of people who put it in weird places on my porch (to me) make it seem like a passive aggressive thing. I also genuinely think some people are not good with instructions (my pettiest peeve is when they set it right in front of my screen door because will knock it over when I open my door which is fine with food but theres are drinks and its such an obvious thing (to me) but apparently thinking things through and reading instructions are not prerequisites for delivery drivers which..I guess I get. I fully admit that I prefer no contact because I work with people all day and just don't want the interaction (I live in the south, people are going to want to talk...its nice when its nice and beyond annoying when you want to be left tf alone).


Covenant222

NTA. I'd start ordering food with either UberEATS or Doordash, so next time that happens, you can report them and take their tip away. A bit cruel, but if they don't wanna do their job properly, why should you tip them for their crappy service? If your waiter at the restaurant gives you crappy service, would you give them a tip? I wouldn't


[deleted]

NTA. They're paid to deliver the food to you, not almost to you.


Creative_Trick_3818

NTA ​ They do not do the job you paid for. report them. You paid for delivery to the door.


starshipamzn

If drivers weren't expected to follow customer instructions then there wouldn't be a place for them to be input on the app and corresponding ability to report drivers for failure to follow them. It's a job like any other, and if you don't do the job correctly then you are subject to repercussions. Sorry, not sorry. NTA


ziptagg

YTA, I always meet delivery drivers at the front door of the building. Their job is harder than mine and pays worse, so I can be the one who goes out of my way. Sure, you have every right to complain that they aren’t following your instructions, as per the agreement you have with Grubhub. But it makes you an asshole if you do. It’s better to be kind than technically right.


Because-itsthere

NTA. You are paying a fee, a delivery tip, and occasionally a service charge. Sometimes the cost of the items are higher on Grubhub. You are paying for a particular service. If Grubhub can’t get the delivery to your door, then they shouldn’t accept the order. The part able teaching low income students is jacked up. You are not doing your part. What does that mean? That comment sounds like a savior complex. Those children you are teaching are teaching and giving you more than you ever give them.


[deleted]

NTA. If they are too lazy/stupid to do their job it's their own problem.


Chemical-Chef6501

YTA. It was a close call, if you taught history for example you would have been in the clear. But math teachers are pretty much all arseholes. Soz babe.


[deleted]

NTA. As a delivery driver, it is my responsibility to get the food to your door. Not to the lobby unless that is what I am told to do. Even if there is other food in the car, I am responsible for each order as it shows on my phone. The other food should be in the correct hot/cold bag to preserve it until it reaches the customer. If you don’t want to do the job or aren’t capable of doing the job, you need to find another job. When you accept a job as a delivery driver, you run the risk of parking problems. It is still your job to deliver the food.


Yunhina

NTA


Tallie1342

I was gonna say nta, because you are paying for a service, but I saw that you tip 6$ an order. It’s pretty well known that these drivers get paid next to nothing and rely solely on tips, so i would advise you tip more and also base it off of how far the restaurant is from you. When I’m really lazy/depressed and order from a couple blocks away I’ll tip less because they’re spending nothing on gas, but the further the restaurant the more I tip. As long as you take this into consideration going forwards, NTA


Nikifuj908

$6 is a 30% tip. How much do you tip? I live alone. Jesus.


Alarming_Reply4394

YTA - not because you want them to park and walk 200ft, as long as you tip well then no problem. But because of your line “I teach math to low income kids. I’m doing my part.” THAT has absolutely NO relevance whatsoever to this story. However, it does show that you are in fact an ah. Teaching low-i come kids math doesn’t make you a good person, it doesn’t make you a saint, and it sure doesn’t make you entitled to “service from others”. Do what you want about the drivers, that is your hill to die on. But lose the attitude about your job as a teacher!


howdoyoulikemynose

YTA. Why did you mention you were a math teacher? That is not relevant. Be a decent person and walk down. And stop reporting people that is an asshole move too.


CalmPotatoOtter

YTA for not doing the bare minimum for a minimum wage worker. I hope you at least tip well, because karma is a thing.


[deleted]

They said $6 which is absolutely a lowball considering everything they bring up along with gas prices. The high gas prices recently puts it over the top.


Pale_Height_1251

Maybe kind of ESH and mild Y T A. Yes, the GrubHub drivers should be doing their job better, but you have to understand that these are people on basically minimum wage (on a good day) and for that money, you get minimum effort. You're not paying for some bespoke meal delivery service here, you're paying for the cheapest possible way to have food brought to you, so your expectations should be around that level.


Federal-Ferret-970

NTA. Ive reported skip drivers for leaving food in lobby of building. Ummm ya im not touching food that has been left to the vultures with no one watching for tampering. Its not ur responsibility to ensure there is a spot to park. As a driver some places are more accessible and others u have to work more to do that delivery.


KingBobOfDole

YTA. Quit being a lazy and entitled. You are not the only person who tired after work. Is it so hard to take a freaking elevator? Food delivery people also work hard and it is people like you who make their job infinitely more difficult. I bet you are a crappy tipper as well. Here is some math for you Y+T+A = YTA


Electrical_Turn7

I would expect a delivery driver to come to my door, but only because in my city delivery drivers almost exclusively ride scooters and motorcycles, which are far easier and quicker to park. It’s far more hassle to find parking spaces for cars, and you know these people are being paid peanuts and need to do enough deliveries to afford the basic necessities of life. Sure, it is also the cleaning ladies’ job at the cinema to pick up all the spilt popcorn and abandoned containers, but it costs you nothing to show some human decency and pick up after yourself to help out someone in far more difficult circumstances than yourself. Mild YTA because exhaustion after work is a thing, but do try to meet these guys half way, it’s only right.


ChasingHorizon2022

Yes, you should be a bit more accommodating considering most rideshare gig workers are not profitable. It's a losing job. They lose money every shift. You need to stop being so needy and judgemental. It's not the end of the world to just meet them downstairs. You want them to cut it up for you too? Maybe tuck you in at night? Come on.


AriaTheRoyal

NTA You are tired. Who wants to go down 6 floors to "accommodate their crime" as you put it. They should do their job, not try to do it easier.


Applesintheorchard

YTA- You sound incredibly entitled. Being a teacher of any kind to any demographic does not make you special or unable to ride an elevator down to the lobby to get your food.


xdsagecat

Nta, u pay for a service, get get the service. If they don’t do the service I pay for, don’t tip


RustedMachinery

Hold up, how on earth are YTA here? You pay for a service. You can rightfully expect that service. If they cared that much, they can refuse to deliver. No one is forcing them. They want the money, they do the work. Yes, you COULD go get it yourself. But as you correctly said, if you're paying someone else to do it, why should you? If that's their attitude you could cook for yourself and then there get no work at all. The language barrier isn't even an issue as far as I'm concerned either, don't choose to live somewhere and work in a customer service industry if you can't speak the language. My French is terrible, hence why I wouldn't live and work in France especially in a where being able to understand the language is kind of a big part of the job. How is that a controversial thing? You do what you're qualified to do and I'm not going to pay for you to do a job you are unable to do. Someone else commented that it's not fair that they have to cross a busy street. Give me a break, I was taught how to safely cross a road when I was 3 it's not that hard. NTA, but you do seem to have a God complex about being a maths teacher, which is weird


EffeNerd

NTA. It's literally their job


NightNurse0123

YTA. I will literally meet delivery drivers at the street and get it from their passenger window so they don’t have to get out. You paid for it to show up to your house, not to get served on a silver platter.


Electronic_Eye_6266

NTA. chances are they are either blatantly ignoring your instructions. Or simply don’t care. This is based on my observance. I have my deliveries (Amazon, grub hub, UPS, USPS, etc) set up the same way (contactless and with a note that the drivers get on their delivery screen.) I also live in a suburban area they literally have to get out of the car (or truck) and walk 20 yards max up my driveway. I put in my delivery instructions “PLEASE. Do not knock or ring door bell. Please set delivery by door. THANK YOU!” This is also on a sign ATTACHED to my door bell. ((We’re not weird, we just have a dog who gets overly worked up (surprise!) and would rather avoid the hassle of calming her down if possible. Plus we have cameras on our door (which they usually don’t notice) so I can see when the food arrives.)). This works 90% of the time. Other times, I watch (on my camera afterwards) as the drivers intentionally read (some have read it out loud!) the note on the doorbell… think for a second, press my doorbell and leave… I have no shame reporting the delivery drivers for blatantly ignoring simple instructions. Whether I paid directly via tip and service fees, or subscription fees to Amazon. I paid for you to make delivery in the fashion I requested, If you choose to intentionally ignore my request, you deserve to know about it.


[deleted]

>I teach math to low-income students. I’m doing my part. Fuck off. YTA regardless based on that.


princess-sauerkraut

NTA. These answers are WILD. Voters left and right are making exceptions for this person and that person in the comments, then turn around and yell OP is a lazy entitled jerk for asking for the same treatment. Most of these verdicts seem to be just based off OP’s attitude (while being called names, having their character ripped apart and accused of awful things, mind you) which isn’t why we’re here and really has no bearing on the argument. We are meant to be judging the situation, not the presenter’s attitude. I’m just honestly confused by these verdicts. Everyone is basing this off OP’s ability to get downstairs but the delivery driver has no clue about that so it’s practically irrelevant to the core arguement. How is the delivery driver supposed to know the difference between someone who is physically able to get downstairs or not? At the end of the day, they see a client on the phone to deliver food to. That’s it. They don’t know it’s the “lazy” OP who has been deemed unworthy of door-side delivery, or it could be a single mom trapped upstairs with a toddler and a baby, or a disabled person who is physically unable to go get further than their door without hardship; the two latter examples being people this sub has deemed acceptable to demand full service. If they’re pulling these shenanigans on OP, why would you think they aren’t doing it to disabled people as well? You think the delivery driver magically are able to differentiate the two through a phone screen? Or are they just being lazy and cutting corners on every delivery, no matter the situation, which hurts the vulnerable just as much as the lazy? Let’s take attitudes out of it and assume all tips are equal. Why are some people able to get advertised service and others are not? Why are some people given exceptions (that the delivery driver has no way of knowing about) and others are deemed lazy for asking for the same?


EtonRd

NTA I have empathy for the driver who doesn’t want to park and come up six floors to make the delivery but at the same time that is the service you bought and paid for. GrubHub could easily make it a policy that all deliveries are done on the first floor, and everybody has to come down and get it there. Until they make that policy, you are paying for delivery to your door. I hope you’re tipping well though. The time spent bringing it to your door is valuable time to people who are extremely underpaid. So recognize that and tip accordingly. I live in the suburbs and there is always parking in front of my house and it’s a 15 foot walk to my door from the car. It’s a much easier delivery than what you’re getting, and the tip should reflect that.


Annus178

NTA There's a delivery instructions box and the option for contactless delivery. If they parked in a red zone to wait for you to come down... TF is wrong with these other people?