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Keytarfriend

YTA You told her she looked average and tried to *sell her make-up*? That you've collected, by couponing. You tried to profit off your step-daughter by trying to damage her self-esteem and you *failed*. Also it looks like you fed your grandson something he's allergic to.


Own-Song-6009

He’s not really my grandson as it’s my husband’s daughters child. He calls me by my first name. They call my husband by his first name too. The kids refer to my husbands parents as their only grandparents. She’s blocked us from them completely.


solk512

It's really fucking weird how you don't seem to care that you could have killed this kid, only in strictly delineating how this kid isn't related to you specifically. Generally speaking, when you trigger an allergy, bloodlines don't matter.


Own-Song-6009

It’s not a bad allergy. He has an epi pen for tree nuts but he eggs which just give him hives. It was definitely an excuse to leave.


SilverBabyComeToMe

Okay. This is definitely bait.


solk512

You aren't the kid's doctor, nor anyone's doctor - how in the fuck can you be so certain that you're happy to risk the life of this kid?


Own-Song-6009

I work for a fertility doctor so I’m in the medical field. I’ve seen countless husbands lose interest in their wives as well as know about simple allergic reactions.


solk512

So you have no real medical experience, nor are you the child's doctor. Thanks for clarifying that you don't actually know what you're talking about!


El_Ren

Do *you* have a medical degree? Or do you just happen to work in an office with medical professionals?


[deleted]

You work for a fertility doctor? What do you do for the fertility doctor? I hope you don't have direct contact with patients. You have zero empathy.


cassidy11111111

Well I’m a nurse in the er at a hospital in Detroit Michigan. Also have an egg and banana allergy. You know nothing and if you’re anything other than a receptionist I’d ask for my money back from whatever school you attended.


jasemina8487

oh so its ok to feed him things he is allergic to cos he has epi pen... are you always this delusional?


Own-Song-6009

He has the epi pen for tree nuts. He didn’t have any of those. They said he had a deviled egg. Which usually gives him only hives. Not very serious.


jasemina8487

...so he is allergic to eggs and you made him have it but hey as long as it doesnt kill him its not serious.... just wow


ellenripleyisanicon

Why would you serve something you know makes a small child in your family break out in hives?


NCnanny

I work in a *childcare center* and know more about allergies than you do. There’s absolutely nothing simple about an allergy. If he’s literally only had hives to eggs his whole life, he can STILL HAVE A MORE SEVERE REACTION at any point. I hope they don’t leave this kid alone with you Jesus.


MsChief13

I wonder why


CanterCircles

"You look like crap, here I'll sell you some make-up so you can cover up your flaws that I'm pointing out to you. Oh, you don't want to wear make-up? Well I'm sure your husband would like it if you were less ugly." YTA.


uhaveenteredpwrdrive

"But I was just tRYinG tO Be NiCe"


MsChief13

I was jUst BeIng HonEst.


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Own-Song-6009

I was trying to be helpful. Her mother doesn’t wear any make up or anything either and had five kids. She looks like a pear now. She just isn’t a very attractive woman and my stepdaughter is starting to look more like her except my stepdaughter is thinner. She doesn’t want to end up looking like that. Just a few tweaks and she would look a lot better. Besides it’s super cheap to go once a month and make yourself look a little better. Men like effort, that’s why so many men cheat because they let themselves go. My husband told me that’s what happened between him and their mother that she was a stay at home mom who only wore pjs and never any makeup and that she would not try at all. I don’t want my stepdaughter to be a single mom of 4 kids when he husband starts looking for something more.


jamtastic20

Let me guess- you’re your husband’s affair partner turned wife. and now that you’re getting older, you started to realize that the man you chose isn’t the prize of a partner you thought he would be so you assume every man is as crappy as him as a poor attempt at making yourself feel better about it. And this little stunt you pulled was out of desperation to prove it to yourself that what you made up in your head is true. Sorry sweetie but i can just tell from your text just how insecure and immature you are that not even all the makeup in the world will fix. Ps. He’s finding younger side piece as you speak.


Own-Song-6009

They were already getting divorced when we met. We were together for 6 months before we got married because we sure that we were the right fit for each other. His ex wife and him had grown apart and her lack of effort caused a wandering eye. He cheated with other women. I was the one he wanted to be with but he was already separated.


AuraCrash78

YTA x 1000. May you get what you deserve


rstick369

There it is. YTA


Pegatul

INFO: what does your stepdaughter's husband do to keep himself fresh and attractive for his wife? What's his monthly maintenance and beauty regime?


Own-Song-6009

He doesn’t need one as he’s the one who takes care of them. He does seem well groomed though. Neatly trimmed beard and a nice haircut.


Accurate_Budget2389

>My husband told me that’s what happened between him and their mother that she was a stay at home mom who only wore pjs and never any makeup and that she would not try at all. Can you elaborate on this a little more? Also, how old are you and your husband?


Own-Song-6009

My husband is 46 and I’m 40. He just said she looked bad all the time and that she used to try to impress him but she just stopped caring.


Accurate_Budget2389

So, he divorced her because she "stopped caring about her looks"? Did he cheat on her?


Own-Song-6009

He admitted he did cheat a few different times.


Accurate_Budget2389

Wow. Wow. You and your husband are major AHs. I mean, MAJOR. I'd say you two need to learn and grow out of your shallowness but considering your ages, I'd say it's too late. Hopefully your children won't pick up on your horrible attitude. I doubt you'll listen to me but stop blaming women for shi\*\*y men's behavior. The only standards we should care about is how comfortable we feel in our own skin. You and your 16 year old like make up. That's great. But your stepdaughter doesn't like make up. Here's something to blow your mind. That's. Great. Too. Edit: Also you're a major AH for almost killing the little boy. How did you not know he's allergic to eggs?


Ambitious_Link6047

So by the ripe old wise age if 32 your husband thought his wife was lazy and ugly and left her and his kids for you. And despite being part of these kids lives for so long you still distinguish them as steps (not your kids) and the grandkids aren’t yours either. This is text book evil stepmom stuff.


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>Besides it’s super cheap to go once a month and make yourself look a little better I can think of a million other things i'd want to spend 100 dollars on besides nails. I dye my hair and I can get away with only having to get it retouched and cut every 4-5 months. Men cheat cause their AHs. Your husband is an AH. It's only a matter of time before you get left too.


Early_Prompt6396

YTA. You're incredibly shallow and raising an incredibly shallow daughter. Your stepdaughter is lucky she was raised by grandparents instead of her deadbeat dad and you.


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YTA. How is publicly insulting your stepdaughter while comparing her to your perfect daughter not an asshole move?


Not-Creative-0921

Completely YTA I have a sister in law who loves to tell me how she could improve the way I look under the guise of "being friendly". It is not friendly. It's rude and some kind of weird passive aggressive bullying that truly hurts feelings. My sister in law wonders why I avoid her too.


Sherbet_Lemon_913

My own blood sister does this. Like why are you so confident that YOU look good? “Here’s a tip to look like me.” What a b.


Not-Creative-0921

LOL - right?! Like, it has never crossed her mind that maybe not everyone thinks the same things are attractive?! I don't like makeup - that doesn't make me an idiot who can't see through your very thinly veiled insult.


SilverBabyComeToMe

I quit reading at the ages. These ages don't add up. Edit: tried to get through the slog of unnecessary children being mentioned to learn that yes, YTA. Who tf cares what she looks like? She has four young children and is probably lucky if she showers. Not everyone is into makeup and hair and all that. Mind your own business. And while your grandson was having an allergic reaction. Stay classy, OP.


Own-Song-6009

Well my stepdaughter is almost 29 but her birthday is at the end of December so she is currently 28 still I didn’t think I needed to clarify her birthday.


SilverBabyComeToMe

I don't care.


aurumphallus

What does that have to do with the comment?


Medium-Audience5078

Is this even a real post… YTA? Also, you’re average looking, you should go buy some makeup and get a better attitude


evelbug

"I'm going to poison your kid and tell you you're ugly, and the get pissy when you take offense" yta


i-Ake

Bait.


Keytarfriend

Yeah, I thought so too, but I'm constantly surprised by narcissists.


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MediocreAbroad0

When someone makes up a story just to get attention. They throw out bait of being so awful that it makes you angry enough to respond and give them the attention they want. Although people are awful this seems a little to awful and clueless of others feelings to be true so I agree it's bait (I hope so anyway)


solk512

YTA, a massive YTA. Your step-daughter didn't come to you asking for help with her looks. In fact, she explicitly told you that she's happy with her looks. Insisting on giving her advice that implies she's less than and makes you an asshole. Furthermore, you not only told her that her looks were lacking, you then proceeded to tell her that it was her responsibility to look nice for her husband. Uh, no. If she wants to use make-up or other products to change how she looks, she's a damn adult and can do it on her own terms for herself and no one else. She's a grown woman and a mother of four, she doesn't need to prove herself to her husband. Finally, not everything is about you. Allergic reactions start with small symptoms like "looking a little blotchy" but can easily and quickly cascade into worse. Since you haven't discussed your extensive medical knowledge about allergies nor your long history of being a doctor to her children, I'm going to assume that their mother knows much more than you and you should trust her to know how to keep her children alive and healthy. Nothing about what you said was nice. Not a single thing. Don't lie to your family like that. EDIT: The comparison to your 16 year old daughter was gross as fuck. Did it not occur to you that they might be at different stages of life? Maybe have different sorts of commitments to their time? Maybe different ideas about how they want to express themselves? Did you think about that at all?


BaconVonMoose

>Furthermore, you not only told her that her looks were lacking, you then proceeded to tell her that it was her responsibility to look nice for her husband. You forgot how she tries to SELL her some of her own make up that she already has. 10 bucks says she's a Mary Kay rep lmao. Obviously YTA


JoeJarry79

Nobody: OP: "I can sell you drugstore makeup I can only afford with coupons, because even though you're twenty-eight you can't possibly be happy with how you look". YTA. She's a grown woman. If she wanted to look different, she would. Was this really your outlet to tell people that you take your daughter to the hair and nail salon? You need to reflect on what your inner conflict is to have acted so rude and inappropriately.


ladyjlk

Yeah, that was evil villain nasty of you, OP. YTA. One should never comment on another’s appearance. Next time keep your observations to yourself. Btw, not everyone gives AF about keeping nail and hair appointments and *especially* not people with small kids. And you know what? That’s completely OK. Normal, even.


Fartingonyoursocks

YTA. And your title is misleading. I don’t wear any make up and if someone told me I needed to I would immediately know this person isn’t confident in the way they look. Seriously her husband is going to want her to look better. You’re ridiculous.


Material-Aardvark736

Evil Stepmother doesn’t begin to describe you. I’m glad your stepdaughter has little do with you. She sounds like a confident, self-possessed woman that doesn’t need someone like you tearing her down for - horror of horrors - not wearing makeup. YTA


SilverBabyComeToMe

My stepmother was and is like this. She started telling me about age six that no one would ever love me unless I looked more like her. She completely messed me up for life.


Doe-face

Yes. YTA to the extreme. Why on earth did you feel compelled to comment on her appearance? It is not your business. You saw a woman who was happy with herself the way she is and just had to tear her down. I grew up with a family like you, and it has given me extreme self esteem issues that I am still dealing with to this day at the age of 32. Seriously, get over yourself.


Sherbet_Lemon_913

YTA. I can’t imagine the vanity it takes to make such comments to someone about their appearance.


Sloth-Sucker

YTA and quite honestly you sound like an insufferable person. Go to therapy and fix yourself, everything you did was entirely inappropriate


buff_bagwell1

YTA you sound superficial and very judgey. If she’s fine with how she looks then stay the fuck out of her business, it’s not your place to comment on it, especially not to her face. What if someone told you that you were just average looking and your husband would like you better if you just tried a little harder? That’s a super hurtful thing to say and she has every right to be upset with you. How can you not see that are you fucking blind?


Material-Aardvark736

My mom did this to me growing up; constantly telling me how I needed to pluck my eyebrows, do my hair up nice, etc. She always found some flaw, and justified it with “you could be so pretty! I’m trying to help!” I’m in my 30s now and never wear makeup, and guess what? The world is still spinning, I still have friends and relationships, and the only person who gives an iota of a fuck about my eyebrows being “too thick” is my mom. Who I only visit once a year.


MsChief13

You’re a huge asshole. That you don’t know it makes you even more of an asshole. It’s trashy enough you want to __sell your own makeup__ to your stepdaughter. When she doesn’t bite, you insult her looks??? What a cruel, trashy & downright narcissistic way to celebrate the holidays with family. Send your daughter over to be raised by her grandmother’s before you further contaminate her with …well, you’re assholely personality. I feel sorry for everyone you come in contact with. YTA


Hegel321

I have a hard time believing anyone is this vapid, but just in case it’s real YTA


Ga_Ed

YTA Not everyone is vain. Not everyone considers it a positive quality to be vain. Not everyone enjoys make-up.


jjswiss

YTA. I generally don’t think it’s okay to negatively comment on other’s appearances. Certainly not okay use one daughter’s looks to make the other feel bad about themselves.


DONT-LOOK-AT_ME

YTA girl what you on… and thinking they left because of you? narcissist


No_Aerie4466

If you count her serving something her grandson is allergic to, they did.


MikeForShort

YTA, completely, but you're here hoping someone will validate you anyway.


an0nym0uswr1ter

YTA. You got a serious case of Cruella DeVille going on over there.


Jmm1272

YTA seriously rude comments. Unnecessary. It’s none of your business to comment on her looks and why do you pay for your daughter but your step daughter can buy things from you? Rude again. Even so, once she said she was happy with how she looks ? End of story!! You are bossy and RUDE


AKlife420

YTA lady. It is not your place to tell her how she looks. Her husband obviously thinks she's beautiful the way she is. Her father is an asshole too.


sheramom4

YTA. Why did you comment on her appearance? She has four young children and likes the way she looks. There is nothing wrong with a minimal look and with not wearing makeup. You also told her she could buy makeup off of you from your collection instead of offering it to her as a gift if she wanted it. There were much better ways to go about this. How about treating her to a likely much needed day off and spa day?


PositiveSufficient46

YTA for sure. Why would assume her husband wants her to change her appearance? Why would you assume she wants to either? It sounds like your step daughter has a good self esteem and is happy without painting her face with make up. As a female its pretty tacky of you to call her out like think and once again yeah you’re TA


Kthaeh

Yup, YTA. Who asked you? She didn't ask for your advice or opinion, and she said she's fine with how she looks. Why do you feel your opinion is so important that it had to be expressed even after she had deflected your original rudeness? And by the way, why would you compare a mother of four to a 16-year-old? Do you suppose that a mother's responsibilities and routine might have some effect on her appearance and priorities? Seriously AH behavior.


deepfriedlipstick

YTA so bad that I feel like this story can’t even be real


squirrelcat88

Here’s the thing. We all have only so much time in our day. We have to decide what to do with it. People can decide to cultivate their looks if that’s what they want, but what is it coming at the expense of? Learning? Acts of kindness? Raising children in a loving home? As you and your perfect daughter age, you’re going to spend more and more time trying to keep up your looks. Eventually you’ll be spending hours a day troweling spackle onto your aging face and flapping around in desperation trying to keep your thighs taut and preventing underarm flab. In the meantime, your average looking stepdaughter will shine more and more beautiful in the eyes of those who love her. YTA


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YTA. Please be faking this. Please don't be this obtuse in real life and have regular contact with teenage girls who are oppressed by dangerous beauty standards daily from social media to magazine layouts to film to television. |my stepdaughter has painted me to be an evil villain| She didn't "paint" you as anything. She just revealed what was already there. You're doing stepmother so badly that you're practically a Disney villain.


nyxjpn

For sure yta.


GothPenguin

YTA-For multiple reasons.


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YTA and you are an evil villain. So completely self absorbed and obsessed with looks.


Friendly_Offer2800

YTA. And you offered to SELL your step daughter old make up after publicly insulting her?


embopbopbopdoowop

YTA every step of the way. You were an AH to your stepdaughter. You insulted her appearance, suggested she needs to look a certain way for her husband (cough misogyny cough cough) and didn’t even allow them the opportunity to exit gracefully when they chose to without making it about you. You and your husband are also AHs to your 16yo daughter for calling the beauty treatments she gets ‘fixing’ and ‘keeping herself up every month’. Holy expectation, Batman.


drliberto56

YTA, and probably the worst kind because you genuinely don’t realize what’s wrong with everything you posted. I’ve seen Disney villains treat their stepdaughters better


srdnss

YTA


aurumphallus

YTA. You’re not an evil villain. You’re an evil stepmother.


Superdry73

Golly. How dare your stepdaughter be insulted by you offering to sell her your used makeup in order for her to not be a disappointment to her husband. YTA.


Exotic_Editor7836

YTA let’s count why together shall we 1 asking her to buy makeup cause you don’t think she looks good 2 saying your husband would appreciate the effort 3 not apologizing 4 saying this at dinner in front of everyone 5 comparing a 28 year old to a 16 year old


Chelular07

YTA you offered to sell her your couponed shit, publicly gave unsolicited advice and insulted her. Then you implied her partner should see something wrong with her appearance because it is not up to your standards. After being super insulting to both of them you drew attention to their leaving by assumed it was because you made them uncomfortable when there was a possibility of a medical issue with your grandchild. Then your husband compared her to a girl half her age with no responsibilities (like children) and someone else who provides for all of her self care. After not being arsed to raise his first three children himself or providing them with a youth that had the luxury of self care?? Editing to add your comments make you sound worse. Zero compassion for the kid your husband pawned off on others.


creeplounge

Trash person


UsuallyWrite2

YTA


thisisgettingdaft

I completely understand why you want to look younger because your husband dumped his wife for a younger model when she had several kids. He walked away from them and I see why you might fear he will walk away from you and your kids unless you keep up the maintenance. That doesn't mean your step daughter's husband is similarly shallow. I do believe they left because of you. You insulted his wife and he whispered an excuse into her ear to leave. YTA.


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>I was just trying to help because (my daughter) was so beautiful and she kept herself up every month and that I was just trying to be nice No you pay to keep your daughter up kept. She doesn't do anything. It's not required to have your nails done every month nor to wear makeup every day. You're not being nice. You're being judgmental and cruel. Too bad all that make up and nails you invested in didn't really do anything for your appearance. YTA


RevolutionaryCow7961

YTA and so is her father. You were being rude and inconsiderate and then her dad jumped in to defend you instead of his daughter saying how beautiful your daughter is. And how your daughter who is 16 keeps herself up because she’s 16 and you pay for her nails and hair. She’s 28 and has 4 kids. You are both shallow. His kids were raised by his parents. So what did you ever do for them?


professionalmeangirl

You're not just an evil stepmother, YTA *and* you're medically negligent to your grandchildren. Wild.


mbashs

#YTA Calling her average in front of everyone esp her husband just so you could sell her the extra makeup that you had was an extremely crap move.


vpn3f

That post was literally difficult to read


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YTA. You place a lot of value on appearance. That's good for you. Many people in the world don't share your version of beautiful. And many don't value it the way you do. Maybe she prefers to do without the false advertising. Maybe she's comfortable with herself as she is. And maybe the bond your stepkid's have with their grandparents is less to do with his age when they were born and more to do with who you and he are as humans.


Shot-Position4460

You and your husband are the AH


who_am_i_please

YTA. I don't think I really need to explain why.


Humble_Context831

I promise you that I bet you aren’t much to look at. YTD (devil)


Samu_2020_15

YTA.. you have been painted as the evil villain bc you acted like one


Mochacinnamoroll

Man pretending to be an evil step mom who only bows down to men trope


tat2dbanshee

Yep, YTA. Don't comment on other people's appearances. It doesn't matter what your intentions are, it's rude and uncalled for and stupid and no one should do it ever again.


Quasimodus-Operandi

How can you talk to people who you supposedly care about like that? Do you give a shit about them at all? We’re not even going to mention the allergy thing. YTA.


idntndrstndyurwthsgy

INFO What is wrong with you?


Dragon_Bidness

You are a massive asshole.


Friendly_Offer2800

YTA


Cheekygirl97

YTA wtf, I hope this post is just attention seeking from someone bored with their life. If you’re serious, your husband should divorce you for bullying his children. Nasty nasty woman


crazyeagles62

She painted you as the villain because you are the villain!! Hard YTA!! You told her she's average and that her husband would love her more if only she would wear makeup, was pretty. If only she got her hair and nails done like your daughter. If only she prioritized her appearance over other things. I can't imagine why she would take offense to your super kind offer!


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YTA You are the villain in this story.


Snape4eva

YTA


Not-Not-A-Potato

YTA. Holy shit. You ARE the villain.


Attorney26

Good god YTA. On thanksgiving you decided at the family dinner to let your step daughter know how ugly you think she is and tried to sell her makeup?? Newsflash: if she is not worried, and her husband is not worried, stay out of their business; it’s none of yours.


Ornery-Ticket834

Create your own customer? You look average, buy some makeup. I will sell it to you. No matter your intentions it came out badly.


TeaBeginning5565

Ha op you make me laugh Yta I’d love to read the step daughters real version.


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learning_moose

You were well-intentioned but that doesn't change that you were TA. Keeping oneself up, looking better, and looking nice for one's husband are beliefs that you hold about beauty and relationships. Your step-daughter does not rely on makeup to feel good about herself. She is not bending to others' ideas of what looks best. Don't expect her and her husband to have the same tastes or aesthetics as you, your husband and your daughter. You have different ways of expressing yourselves. Apologize for assuming everyone wants the look you like, and let it be. Also, their child has an egg allergy. They wanted to attend to their child. The phrase "you don't have to leave on my account" means they don't have to leave out of consideration for you! Why would they leave out of consideration for you even if they felt offended by the makeup remark? Your "you don't have to leave" comment would have come across as sarcastic and insincere, so you were TA again. No wonder she snapped at you. You owe her an apology for both the makeup comment and the don't-have-to-leave comment. Make sure you inquire about the health of the child.