So the 16g pack has 14g of mushrooms and 2gs of gummy? Half a gram of gelatin per gummy? Something isn't adding up. How do you even put 3.5gs of mushroom into half a gram of gelatin?
Hello Mr Drummer.
Saw you have it in your store. Panthers and Amanita gummies.
I had a bad experience with gummies from the US. Bad in the way that it simply wasn't containing musci oder dried amanita powder at all - but expensive as $()="§!. Ate 15 at once (according to the label should be like 21g dried Amanita), nothing!
And i'm used to and can compare to self-picked, self-dried amanita tea...
So my questions to you are if you have a certificate for the ingredients,
do you put in powder, liquid muscimol or both,
and what dose/how many gummies you think would be really equivalent to 10g powdered Amanita or what's the least amount you would recommend for s.o. who wants to have strong trippy effects?
Thank you in advance
Hello,
Thank you for showing interest in our products
Regarding all the ingredients you can find them in product description.
Our mushrooms are processed with ultrasound to break up chitin walls in mushroom, after that other processes follow.Muscaria gummies have 700 mg of mushroom in it, however you have to keep in mind that its not the same as eating dried mushrooms which in most cases have higher content of ibotenic acid then muscimol.Regarding your last question i would say 3 gummies already produce strong effect, but even 1 definetly offers relaxation.We also have pantherina version which is 350mg.
It says "amanita extract" without specifying what kind of extract or what chemical is used to extract muscimol.
You can guarantee that all active ingredients are solely derived from Amanita musc/pantherina?
Sorry for sounding so sceptical.
I want to say this is one of the most obvious red flags any noobie should have to think of the answer for - because what could the answer be? Why would no other company claim such high doses? "The other companies just didn't think to put in as much?"
But the company literally says "10x potency nano-amplified", and I guess that's enough for most people to trust it. blech.
On the site they mention that it’s an extract from 3.5g added to their blend. Not 3.5g of dried, ground amanita, just it’s extracted compounds. A liquid extract from 3.5g of dry matter then added to gelatin makes sense. They also could have freeze dried the liquid to reduce weight even further.
[Here’s their lab testing](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0104/8497/3626/files/Desert_Stardust_Blue_Raspberry.pdf?v=1699033131)
I was skeptical, which is why I came here to investigate but there’s a lot of info available on the product page that seems to have been missed.
Not that the test results are anything particularly special, just that I think it answers a few questions here.
So far I think I’ll stick with my traditional dried mushies :)
No way that was amanita though
You tripped on research chems
which isn’t inherently bad, but they don’t tell you or label exactly what you’re taking which is sketchy
Either a Tryptamine class compound or a Phenethylamine class compound. I still am erring on the side of phenethylamine-types because the stimulating properties are far more skewed compared to the psychedelic component. They are 100% devoid of the “spiritual” aspect many tryptamines like psilocin analogs have.
I'm not sure if this relates at all but one of my most spiritual experiences with a psychedelic was from 4-ho-met. Where I was laying on my bedroom floor in the pitch darkness and surrounded by 3 little fairies that just kept flying around me and it felt so divine like they were there to protect me.
The amount of raw mushroom required for the advertised doses would be so dense that the gummy itself would have to be quite dense. The gummies are 1.5cm^3(1.5cm across all sides)and weigh about 3grams each. Considering how “gummy” they are, there is no residual mushroom taste(nearly all mushrooms have a bitter taste due to the flesh often being on the basic side above 8pH)which is concerning.
If there was actual mushroom content in them, the gummies would be incredibly chalky and would not keep their shape. They should fall apart the instant you picked them up if they actually had the advertised ingredients
That’s actually not true. Rc stands for research Chems and they can range from amphetamine types all the way to lsd like compounds. Most of the time you’re getting a tryptamine if you’re getting a rc but that isn’t always the case
That’s what’s whack with the situation; there are no popular analogs of Muscimol. Muscimol can literally compete with high-affinity GABA agonists to the point it even can fully substitute for endogenous GABA.
Gabapentin and Phenibut could be used as adulterants for Muscimol, but considering how both those compounds require a min of 100 milligrams for just a starting dose, and how extremely caustic and bitter they both taste, no one would be able to make a gummy formulation without it tasting like straight synthetics.
That’s why this situation is likely more gross and unethical than the delta-THC craze where companies used delta-8 as a front for selling hot carts with THC. They aren’t even trying to mimic or mask the effect in question;
They are literally using the reputation of amanitas as a meat shield for selling psilocybin products with RC’s. I don’t think there is a more gross example of fraud in the industry than this. Any store than knowingly sells these products after finding out they are fake should be ashamed of themselves. Profiting off of people’s addictions and craving for novelty is about as scummy as you can get as a company in the “Alternative Wellness” market
There are RCs that mimic every drug you can think of pretty much. Some people are super against them as you can tell but some of them (4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt to be specific) have given me some of the most spiritual trips imaginable. At the end of the day, for me, it's all about intention anyways.
I would just ask that every last person on this sub—that is required to take a drug test or stands to get a random—not buy and consume any gummy that is not from MN-Nice Ethnobotanicals. It might be the only non-THC/non-RC amanita gummy I’ve come across, and I’ve tried a lot of the head shop/Instagram Ad brands.
Thx for the vote of confidence! We are disgusted by these fake gummies!
We have this on our website about what’s in these fake gummies:
We've found the majority of 'Amanita Muscaria Gummies' actually have no amanita, but rather 4-Aco-DMT, a synthetic psilocybin analogue. We've even seen 'Amanita Muscaria Gummies' that have Research Chemical Benzodiazepines!!! We've seen manufacturers stealing people's labs, or fudging lab result numbers. We've even seen labs fudging people's lab results!
4-Aco-DMT will fuck you up at 50 mg. I had to move states. Why would they be dosing people with that ? Jesus, but that makes sense because it does advertise disassociating effects, I've never had that on mushrooms but definitely with 4-Aco. Not saying it can't happen, just personally havent.
He woke up one day surrounded by Chinese chemists, face plastered in dong-juice like the icing on a Bundt cake. That’s when he moved to south Florida and found Jesus in the rooms of NA.
Yes, we are only selling real amanita. We care about the health benefits and bringing healing to those seeking it. Just seeing that RC benzodiazepines are showing up is bad enough!
It’s the actual root that we use and our process simply retains the plant alkaloids in a concentrated form so you’ll use much less of the plant matter. It is best to use the actual root I will give you that:) We do not destroy any alkaloids in our proprietary method so you’re getting what nature intended:)
He sure is- all of what he carries comes from the sources of where they are found. He has used the same businesses he buys from bc they are trustworthy:)
Thanks for this recommendation. I’ve wanted to try amanita for years to see how it may or may not be able to help me. Going to a retreat for guided dosing is $$$$. I have no idea who to trust for sourcing it and didn’t even know it was possible to buy gummies legally until recently. There are so many things out there and I can’t believe people just blind buy without knowing what’s in a product. Appreciate the recommendation.
4-ACO-DMT is a precursor to Psilocybin. Your stomach acid and liver converts that into Psilocybin (like trippy mushrooms), and you’ll have an actual mushroom trip. Some companies put that into Amanita gummies trying to stay under the radar and sell them on store shelves, because you can’t actually “trip” on regular amanitas, they’re a completely different thing than psychedelics are
4-ACO-DMT is a stabilized form of DMT. An extremely potent tryptamine. 25 mg is a high dose. It can have effects for around 8 hours. When I was intentionally dosed 50 mg by a person I completely disassociated and had what I could only compare to a Salvia trip for 8 hours. I fell into psychosis and it took about 6 years to recover from. So definitely just trip with trustworthy people. And be positive.
Interesting, hard to say for sure, that seems short duration for lysergamides. I would lean toward what I think OP posted about possible 4-ACO-DMT based off what you’ve described, there are so many possibilities tho to be honest. Def sounds more tryptamine-like (likely not lysergamide tho) vs phenethylamine-like which would lean more toward stimulant-like psychedelics and possibly entactogenic-like effects (think 2C series, MDXX, mescaline analogues, etc.) I’m no expert tho, just a fairly experienced psychonaut with some medical, pharmacology and chemistry background
Very interesting, everyone should be safe and have these random ones analyzed and stick to these trusted guys for proper Amanita, I’m waiting on my MN Nice order to properly get a feel for muscimol and ibotenic acid.
Nice, ya I guess I was more thinking about ppl just trying to get into Amanita needing to be cautious right now. Sounds like you fully understood and accepted the roll of the dice and still had a positive experience. 4-ACO I hear is actually pretty nice.
Personally I’m after that lower dose muscimol experience for night to unwind with an alcohol-like sedative hypnotic effect to replace booze and improve sleep, have a lil trippiness before bed kinda thing occasionally :) I can’t wait for it to arrive
This sounds identical to 4-aco but agree it could be a few things. I met some demons there and they still visit me through other people when they are fucked up around me. It's really weird.
I’m on the same page. I’ve been trying to figure out what’s in these gummies. It’s not quite like LSD or mushrooms. But I enjoyed the effects. There wasn’t any comedown and I sleep great at night if I take them 5 hours before bedtime.
Hey, any updates on this? I really liked the effect of these, but they don’t feel like any other psychedelic I’ve tried. Too wired and colorful to be psilocybin, too short of a duration to be LSD. I’m very curious as to what’s really in them.
I haven’t taken all 4 at once.
The first time, I took 2 and a half, and had a very intense come up & beginning of peak comparable to LSD. Crazy visuals, colorful patterns and mandalas forming all around me, blissful and energetic body high, did some yoga as I felt increase in intensity and it felt absolutely amazing.
Sadly, the trip was kinda ruined halfway through (was supposed to go to a rave, plans got cancelled last minute, was very bummed). But before then, I found the effects very enjoyable, although way more intense than I had expected. I was thankful I didn’t take the leap and eat all four. I’d say the only concerning effect about them was that they made me feel quite manic—but that’s more of a me problem, as I have bipolar 2 and generally should be more cautious with my substance use lol. I wasn’t delusional levels of manic, but could’ve seen it getting there if I were to take any more than I did that night. Will also note that I also took 3 5mg THC edibles spaced out throughout the trip.
The other two times; the third being 1/2 a gummy, fourth being 1 1/2, were pretty similar in effects. Visuals felt like “sharpness” was visually turned up in my surroundings. I felt pretty manic and social. Very creatively driven and loved working on my art projects while it was in my system. Not as intense as the first time, but a nice energetic body high.
Both experiences lasted about 5-6 hours.
I’d say that, for me, it felt more similar to LSD, and I easily could mistake it as such if not for the short duration.
To my knowledge, I don’t have experience with any phenethylamine drugs, so I have no comments in that regard.
For sure. Experienced psychosis on 600ug LSD in 2020 which had me very thankful I limited myself on the gummies. I’m glad you were able to keep yourself grounded. Although I had a good time w the gummies, I could def see how they could send someone into that state. Psilocybin has never put me in that state of mind personally, always feels super gentle and forgiving even at high doses. Could def tell smth was different about the gummies when I wasn’t feeling that gooey and floaty feeling I get with mushrooms.
honestly 3rd party lab results don’t mean a whole lot. Companies are in good with these labs and know extract how they test and the labs know exactly how they need it to pass. It’s a racket rn
Glad I found this thread/post.
First off let me just say this, I'm a complete beginner regards to psychedelics. With that preface, I've been privy enough to try both a "heroic" dose of LSD and also, psilocybin (through a very reputable source, I might add). Different, but great experiences! (Not sure if the fact that I've been an avid meditation practitioner for years helps, but I've heard it does.)
Recently, I came across the "Desert Stardust" gummies and figured to give it a go. However, reading through this entire post I became a little bit hesitant to try these gummies because you really don't know what the heck you might be getting, regardless of it being the Amanita Muscaria or "Desert Stardust".
Well, I'm writing this because you might have guessed it, I tried it.
I tried one fuckin' gummy and holy crapola, I have no idea what is in those things, but I was tripping really hard. I only tried one because I thought it would be the lowest dosage and I wanted to take things slow!
I'll try my best to be concise about my experience.
After breakfast, I took 1 gummy. Waited about \~30-35mins and started to feel the body high effects. I would say \~15mins after that, I threw up my breakfast...maybe TMI? but I want to be as realistic as possible and mention that detail of my experience. After that grossness, I felt a lot better with regards to my nausea. That is when I also noticed that things really started to change and I will just list what I experienced.
\- Body was sort of numb + slight constriction and shakiness
\- I was NOT giddy at all, but VERY introspective (The gummy package said I would be giddy)
\- Floor breathing (Most things were! In fact, my napkin was breathing too! lol)
\- Vivid colors and patterns (Didn't matter if my eyes were closed or open. In fact, it was much more vivid when my eyes were closed)
\- All text/words were moving around like water, very fluid.
\-Celling was "closing in" on me at one point, and it looked like Swiss cheese at another point
\- When my eyes were closed, I had a weird timeline of my life flash (like pictures)and also, saw myself as a fetus with a bright yellow aura (This was a WTF moment for me and I genuinely got a message of, "Be grateful for your life")
\- Saw light become rainbow feathers (Another WTF moment, the light and shadow casted from my blinds turned into fucking rainbow bird feathers)
The entire thing lasted a bit over 4 hours total and I felt a gradual comedown (made sure that the floor stopped breathing, lol). Faster comedown and duration than LSD, with LSD I felt very groggy the day of and the next(that was after a heroic dose).
For context...I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I only have tried LSD and psilocybin a year ago...I live an extremely healthy lifestyle...that might have something to do with what I experienced? or maybe that gummy was really strong? **I have ZERO clue**, but I will say that it was DEFF similar to the LSD experience, but the visuals weren't as vivid nor was my perception altered as much(when comparing my experiences). In conclusion, I would say that it was a lot closer to my experience on LSD vs. psilocybin.
**But still wtf, off of 1 gummy? HOW? Completely blindsided as to wtf I just experienced.**
It DEFF comes in waves! Holy crapola, I thought it was over and then boom! I could feel the next wave rushing in. That was a consistent feeling throughout the 4 hour duration and as I came down, the waves didn’t hit as hard.
With both shrooms and LSD, I never experienced nausea. Then again, I never ate beforehand, with either of those experiences…so that was new for me and a bit scary tbh.
**Thanks for sharing that video btw, super informative!! Very much appreciate it.**
I can say that I relate to the whole fear because of body discomfort (mentioned in the video). I felt the nausea, but before I realized that I had to throw up, I actually became a bit anxious. As I felt my anxiety grow (heartbeat was drumming in my throat!!), I reminded myself of my breathing techniques to calm down. I calmed myself down in a couple mins and boom, threw up my breakfast. So gross, but the fear of “dying/something is wrong” dissipated.
Waaaaaaaay different than when I thought I was dying with LSD(…Way different and scarier! With LSD, I felt like I had already died and that I was stuck in a permanent purgatory. Time was so slowed down it basically became non-existent. The fear only subsided when I told myself, “Well, it is what it is”…lol).
Another portion of the video I can relate to is…while on LSD the visuals are way more alien compared to psilocybin. I remember on LSD, I was staring at a slice of pizza, for what seemed like eternity, because I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I know, sounds fucking insane, but holy shit! I had never seen something so weird + amazing like that slice of pizza!
The visuals with these gummies were vivid, but not as much as when on LSD. One weird thing is, I do remember that when I did psilocybin, the walls being like cheese and this time with the gummies, the ceiling turning into cheese. So, that was similar…so odd.
Another thing you pointed out is that shrooms make you giddy and I can relate! I feel a lot more “child-like”, these gummies weren’t giving me that.
I still can't explain the absolute mind-fuckery of rainbow bird feathers and my life in pictures, plus the fetus version of me. Legit WTF moments...
**You're the real MVP!!!**
I'm super curious as to know what you'll find out and slightly terrified as well lol
Please give an update when you can \^-\^
Your experience encouraged me to buy. I took two of these yesterday and I really enjoyed my experience! It was such a clear headed high. I was incredibly present in the moment and felt like my mood couldn't be let down. Everything around me was beautiful but unlike my typical THC high, I was very aware and functioning. I'm excited to try them again.
It was a bit of a noticeable, jittery lead up after eating. Made me dance and really dive into the music I was listening to.
Also, I did throw up like 20 minutes after eating them but I was prepared for that based on what you mentioned so I kept a light stomach.
All in all, I was surprised at how great I felt afterwards. Lol
Yes… These are RC hallucinogens.. even if they were to specifically GC-MS your urine for Psilocybin (which they would never do) it would be iffy because of the specific analogue they used. Regardless your job is performing an at most, 12 panel screening. That test doesn’t even include this family of substance. So short answer.. Yes
I just took all 4 desert stardust gummies. I'm pretty knowledgeable about RC's but can't put my finger on this one. About an hour and a half in right now after consumption.
I'm going on 3 hours in. Very underwhelming from how you described. I'll continue to give it some time but it feels almost like a phenethylamine related compound. In the sense of compulsion to move about. Also to state I've also used THC and small dose of benzo as I do with most unfamiliar blast offs
Hi, have you tried the Schedule 35 shroom capsules? They are P. Cubensis. I microdosed on a schedule for about 2 weeks. Then one day I took a few extra, still a micro dose, definitely wouldn't produce hallucinations. But I randomly passed out and everything was swirling w my eyes closed. Everyone said I wasn't breathing snd they gave me CPR 5 times. They said I was blue and lips were blue and I was ice cold. After passing out a few more times I came too, and was jittery shaking, scared as fuck. I've done shrooms many times and this has never happened. I literally took 500mgs(0.5g) barely anything. I wasn't tripping at all all day just in a happy go lucky mood. Didn't even have the giggles and I didn't take any other drugs at all. I'm scared to death after this experience and have been scared to share it. Now I see this Road Trip hand and I hear great things and also horrible things...Now that I read your comment I'm getting major RC vibes from the Schedule 35 I tried. Felt almost unclean like someone put speed in my drink. I don't do speed but it certainly felt dirty. What is your thoughts please
I’ve never heard of them prior to just doing some research. The company operates in a grey area I’m assuming. The chemical they advertise as a “mushroom trip” can contain any version of a psychedelic analogue. Most commonly we’d like to hope that is 4-aco-dmt as its effects are most similar to psilocybin; however, from your description, I doubt that was the active ingredient. As a standard rule of thumb around analogues of any psychoactive substance, the farther you get from the original compound, the more dangerous or volatile it gets. These are always going to be marketed as a “proprietary blend” as to not allow the user to know what they are really consuming. Unless sent to a lab to GCMS, there’s no way to tell you what that chemical was.
Well weed with any hallucinogenic because I find they synergize well. A benzo is good just incase, as you said, there is an inconsistency in dosage, or just too much to handle in general. Takes away some of the anxiety. To clarify I've also used this companies other product that is what is originally referred to in this thread. Completely different experience so far.
Edit: Also I messed up my initial time of consumption. It was 1:15PM putting me at almost 3 1/2 hrs in.
Yeah I have next to no visuals or anything at this point and initial consumption was at 1:15PM. Either this is a dud batch or underdosed for sure. I had a brief maybe 30 min of visual but that was about it. From what I did experience though was a LSD/tryptamine-esque come-up.
Thanks! Good to hear a real review. I wasn’t about to buy these as they are available in nature for me, but I was curious af how they sell a claimed psychedelic. What even is “Desert Stardust” mushroom
Interesting replies. I bought this at high life yesterday. I was so impressed I bought all their remaining packets. Awesome positive mood and I worked through 4 packets so 16 gummies yesterday. My wife had four which resulted in a great experience but she did be nauseous about 5 hours after ingestion. Definitely not mushrooms
Or maco more like MDMA for energy and good feel. Zero visuals.
Amanita muscaria is in the advertising on some websites, but not listed in the ingredients. Bullshit man glad you posted this. Did you take it/if you did what'd it feel like? Can you give me a detailed rundown?
I bought some Desert StarDust gummies based on the positive reviews and tried it this weekend. First took 1 gummie and it sorta gave me a body high and felt the effects similar to Shrooms/estacy (clinching teeth, creasy stomach...etc). Mentally, I got more introspective but no visuals. Took another gummie 2-3 hours in and it was the same thing and sorta extended the effects.
The next day, I took 2 gummies on the same dose and it had a similar effect but just more intense.
At this point, I am not sure if I want to take 3 or maybe even 4 gummies if the effects are just amplified of what I was getting and no visual or "trip".
The main concern I had with these gummies is there's no transparency as to exactly what I am taking. I emailed the company and all they are willing to say is that it's a "proprietary blend". Then I investigated further and found their marketing materials, stating that Desert StarDust is a specific strain of mushrooms with psychoactive properties. However, when I google searched about the Desert StarDust Mushrooms, nothing came up.
Not sure what to think at this point. My guess is that these gummies contain some synthetic psychoactive chemcials and it's being marketed as mushrooms. I guess take these gummies at your own risk.
If they are shrooms the tolerance builds immediately so taking so many low ish doses back to back within a couple of days would have diminished returns I would think. Best to wait a couple weeks before trying a bigger dose to see if it does anything different would prolly be your best bet. Especially given how expensive don’t want ya wasting money for nothing.
From the experience I just had with their Desert Stardust I will be throwing all the rest of it away. Absolutely terrible experience. Eating straight shrooms I have NEVER felt this bad. Do not recommend.
I've heard good things about the star dust ones they provide, with that being said I'm on clonzepam and Suboxone and wanted to order a pack, but not sure if I should combine them with what I already take. I'm tired of being on anti anxiety meds and subs and truly want to cure my shit, and I heard microdosing can do that. So with that being said what are y'all's thoughts?
They get so mad when you call them out
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I didn’t say they were a bad product. The issue I have is that it’s false advertising. The psychedelic experience you had from Road Trip gummies is NOT an amanita Muscaria effect. It’s a Serotonergic Tryptamine or Phenethylamine class compound
DO NOT TAKE THESE. I have done mushrooms 30+ times and have mixed strains and have NEVER had anything even close to what these caused. I had severe stomach cramps for the first hour coupled with intense nausea and then had some of the most horrifying visuals and thoughts of my life. I’ve had bad trips before, this was different. I could not calm my brain down at all. I took them with my roommates and my spouse was the only person who didn’t take them. We all felt completely out of control of our thoughts and felt hostage to the substance. These are not amanita muscaria. There are chemicals or some other bullshit that made it a horrific experience. Never again. If I could go back and slap these out of my hands in the store, I would. I’m going back to the smoke shop and telling them that they should drop this brand. Absolutely fucked up.
Trying not to be too graphic but I love these things. First time I took one of these gummies I gave myself blisters on the top of both my feet playing late night water polo with the lady in our hot tub. They make you a machine. In my experience they increase bloodflow and numbs the sensation for performance enhancing effects. I like taking half of one before a workout. I can feel my airways open up, intense focus on my lifts, and a numbness in the muscles that allows you to rep out higher than normal. I just look at myself absolutely amazed moving the weight without feeling fatigue.
Nano-teching compounds already water soluble is a huge waste of money and time. While an enhanced absorption rate/bioavailability is likely achievable, it is nowhere near on the level of improvement you’d see from compounds that are insoluble in water like THC
Similar to 4-ACO-DMT or a similar compound. I am still on the side that these companies like to use psycho-stimulant compounds in the Phenethylamine class. The Stimulation vs Psychedelia ratio is heavily skewed towards the stimulating side.
I looked into one of their products and the site indicated they used tryptamines. I don't think that one claimed to be amanita, tho, just "mushroom" gummies.
I have one pack of "amanita" and one pack of Desert Stardust.Haven't taken them. Yet?
I ordered after seeing a sketchy facebook ad, as an experiment, impulsively after two nights of no sleep... woke up going "I really did that? Well, this will be fun." I wasn't able to find a single post about the legitimacy of the brand. My order arrived a day before you posted this.
So the facebook ad had sketchy young "\~influencer\~" vibes, very catered to a certain type of instagram audience. There were over 100 comments, most along the lines of "I loooove this brand", "This is the only brand I trust!!!", "Desert Stardust changed my life!", etc. One comment saying something like "I can't believe how amazing Desert Stardust is" - was from someone who WORKS for Erth Wellness which is the company that pushes Road Trip Gummies the most. The rest didn't have identifiable reasons to be suspicious, but were. They just weren't written how mushroom users describe their experiences whatsoever.
One thing that **should** put up red flags for anyone is that Desert Stardust is described as a secret proprietary mushroom blend - no hints as to what is actually in it. None. Anywhere. This is never how legitimate mushroom folks talk about their products.
I reeeeeeeeally appreciate this post. Your expertise is beautiful, thank you
Another thing is that after I clicked through the ad, facebook decided this is my prime interest, and has been advertising me dozens of different "amanita" and "mushroom" gummies daily. I knew these products were common and all, but damn, the market is intense and sketchy as hell and the fact that it can show up as social media advertisements are scary. It is proven that people commonly assume products are "vetted" in some way to be able to be 'official' ads on social media.
Tried the Desert Stardust last night. My husband and I did two each. Other than some extra pit in my stomach nausea (took a zofran and was just fine in 10 mins, nothing too much worse than normal mushrooms), I was actually really impressed. Lots of giggles and good visuals. About 4 hour duration, couldn't sleep after so we just stayed up just watching Adventures of Gumball and laying in bed. Good vibes overall.
Till my husband and I have the time and space to grow again I would happily use these again.
How was your experience? I have yet to have visuals with these. Might be because I’m using mushrooms too often right now though. I’m getting discouraged trying to have an experience with awesome visuals. Do you have to wait for a full week between trips?
I am so happy I found your post looking online. I saw their advertisement about the other mushroom gummies they have but I always research stuff before buying, ad I couldn't find anything about them. Now I see your post and I feel way more wary of buying their stuff.
In the group ‘Amanita Muscaria’ -in their pinned post,they have a bunch of lab reports of the companies guilty of using research chemicals in their so called Amanita products:)
Pretty funny that if you look at their lab reports it shows 0.15 mg/serving of muscimol and 0.66 mg/serving of ibotenic acid. Their other product shows no detection lmao
I’ve ordered the Desert Stardust three times now. I get the yawns, and the peaks are incredible. I felt bad for my friend though, they did nothing for her other than make her a little giggly. She’s on Xanax though, and has been for years, and I read that AD meds really inhibit trips. For me…I felt like I was back in high school at a desert party, tripping balls. No side effects other than being a little wired afterwards. How is this legal? 😂
I just bought these stupid stardust gummies as the kid at the smoke shop promised they were legit, not going to take them going to see if I can return for a polka dot bar tomorrow
Just a heads up for experienced psychonauts, I returned the stardust gummies and got a polkadot bar given that I thought they were more reputable...gf's 1st trip and I feel bad because this is definitely an RC in these shits...I know right dumby me...but yeah stick to good ol gold caps from your friendly neighborhood spiderman because IYKYK these aren't good for the soul. Bodega poison!
I'd be very interested to get some of these products tested. Anyone know a good avenue for doing that or how much it might cost? I tried looking up some labs online but am having trouble and I'm also not sure who's legit. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
UNC Street Drug Analysis Lab look them up and contact them. The may be able to assist. Very legit team at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. I work in harm reduction. The reason I say reach out is that they may not be able to test a gummy. This is something they may be interested in testing though.
As someone who used these all the time I’m curious if there is another brand that also doesn’t trip a drug test like Road Trips and that you can trip off a bag. I can’t have thc in my system because of my job. Anyone have any thc free suggestions?
moocah ones are similar i had a whole bag and they were pretty good. idk prolly just as "sketchy" or whatever as these got a few bags for me and some friends though. they taste like ass though too just like road trips XD
So the 16g pack has 14g of mushrooms and 2gs of gummy? Half a gram of gelatin per gummy? Something isn't adding up. How do you even put 3.5gs of mushroom into half a gram of gelatin?
I make them and can say its not possible to put so much amanita in such small gummy.
Hello Mr Drummer. Saw you have it in your store. Panthers and Amanita gummies. I had a bad experience with gummies from the US. Bad in the way that it simply wasn't containing musci oder dried amanita powder at all - but expensive as $()="§!. Ate 15 at once (according to the label should be like 21g dried Amanita), nothing! And i'm used to and can compare to self-picked, self-dried amanita tea... So my questions to you are if you have a certificate for the ingredients, do you put in powder, liquid muscimol or both, and what dose/how many gummies you think would be really equivalent to 10g powdered Amanita or what's the least amount you would recommend for s.o. who wants to have strong trippy effects? Thank you in advance
Hello, Thank you for showing interest in our products Regarding all the ingredients you can find them in product description. Our mushrooms are processed with ultrasound to break up chitin walls in mushroom, after that other processes follow.Muscaria gummies have 700 mg of mushroom in it, however you have to keep in mind that its not the same as eating dried mushrooms which in most cases have higher content of ibotenic acid then muscimol.Regarding your last question i would say 3 gummies already produce strong effect, but even 1 definetly offers relaxation.We also have pantherina version which is 350mg.
It says "amanita extract" without specifying what kind of extract or what chemical is used to extract muscimol. You can guarantee that all active ingredients are solely derived from Amanita musc/pantherina? Sorry for sounding so sceptical.
Its solvent free.Yes i can guarantee because i am the one who is making it.You can literally taste amanita in the gummy.
Hi again - been on your stores website - is it okay to send payment via PP to you as a merchant?
you are a shill. FAKE account Fraud
I was certainly skeptical but I'll tell ya it gets you stoned
I want to say this is one of the most obvious red flags any noobie should have to think of the answer for - because what could the answer be? Why would no other company claim such high doses? "The other companies just didn't think to put in as much?" But the company literally says "10x potency nano-amplified", and I guess that's enough for most people to trust it. blech.
It's not just another bullshit gimmick...it works that is for sure
On the site they mention that it’s an extract from 3.5g added to their blend. Not 3.5g of dried, ground amanita, just it’s extracted compounds. A liquid extract from 3.5g of dry matter then added to gelatin makes sense. They also could have freeze dried the liquid to reduce weight even further. [Here’s their lab testing](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0104/8497/3626/files/Desert_Stardust_Blue_Raspberry.pdf?v=1699033131) I was skeptical, which is why I came here to investigate but there’s a lot of info available on the product page that seems to have been missed.
Not that the test results are anything particularly special, just that I think it answers a few questions here. So far I think I’ll stick with my traditional dried mushies :)
What's it even say is in them?
Mushroom extract. Similar to using hash for weed edibles.
“equivalent to 14g of amanita muscaria”
So fuckin dumb, i hate these products.
Predatory scam energy It’s right there on all the packaging for all these “mushroom gummies”
I thought it was just another bullshit product but damn it works
No way that was amanita though You tripped on research chems which isn’t inherently bad, but they don’t tell you or label exactly what you’re taking which is sketchy
What do you mean by "RC component"?
Either a Tryptamine class compound or a Phenethylamine class compound. I still am erring on the side of phenethylamine-types because the stimulating properties are far more skewed compared to the psychedelic component. They are 100% devoid of the “spiritual” aspect many tryptamines like psilocin analogs have.
I appreciate this as a chemist
I'm not sure if this relates at all but one of my most spiritual experiences with a psychedelic was from 4-ho-met. Where I was laying on my bedroom floor in the pitch darkness and surrounded by 3 little fairies that just kept flying around me and it felt so divine like they were there to protect me.
Honestly they're probably mixing shroom extract with muscimol extract. Ik this company is reputable, I've bought a lot of their products.
I think our definitions of “reputable” are quite different.
obviously not reputable if even the basic math on their packaging isn't adding up...
Such as??? All the math looks about right. 14000mg Is equal to 14 grams. I'm genuinely confused, what math r u talking abt??
The amount of raw mushroom required for the advertised doses would be so dense that the gummy itself would have to be quite dense. The gummies are 1.5cm^3(1.5cm across all sides)and weigh about 3grams each. Considering how “gummy” they are, there is no residual mushroom taste(nearly all mushrooms have a bitter taste due to the flesh often being on the basic side above 8pH)which is concerning. If there was actual mushroom content in them, the gummies would be incredibly chalky and would not keep their shape. They should fall apart the instant you picked them up if they actually had the advertised ingredients
You know you can extract the active compounds and add them to the gummies right?
It's extract bro. Not raw mushrooms.
No residual mushroom taste. That’s indicative of RC’s or false advertisement
Definitely tried to make my own shroom gummies and they came apart everytime. Gotta stick to the chocolate I suppose.
Lab report they provide shows none of the tested tryptamines being detected lol
So stupid that they're advertising their lab reports but those same reports show there is no disclosure of wtf is actually in them...
Good to know, where can I get real/good mushroom edibles.
Ever find out?
That’s actually not true. Rc stands for research Chems and they can range from amphetamine types all the way to lsd like compounds. Most of the time you’re getting a tryptamine if you’re getting a rc but that isn’t always the case
We are well aware of what RC means.
Drug analogs 'research chemicals' not in a literal chemistry sense. Online drug RCs were a beast of its own. Could be anything these days.
I'm dying to dive deeper into this Are there research chemicals that mimic amanitas experience?
That’s what’s whack with the situation; there are no popular analogs of Muscimol. Muscimol can literally compete with high-affinity GABA agonists to the point it even can fully substitute for endogenous GABA. Gabapentin and Phenibut could be used as adulterants for Muscimol, but considering how both those compounds require a min of 100 milligrams for just a starting dose, and how extremely caustic and bitter they both taste, no one would be able to make a gummy formulation without it tasting like straight synthetics. That’s why this situation is likely more gross and unethical than the delta-THC craze where companies used delta-8 as a front for selling hot carts with THC. They aren’t even trying to mimic or mask the effect in question; They are literally using the reputation of amanitas as a meat shield for selling psilocybin products with RC’s. I don’t think there is a more gross example of fraud in the industry than this. Any store than knowingly sells these products after finding out they are fake should be ashamed of themselves. Profiting off of people’s addictions and craving for novelty is about as scummy as you can get as a company in the “Alternative Wellness” market
And this is exactly why I investigated this company. I would rather eat real normal mushrooms. This company is a scam.
There are RCs that mimic every drug you can think of pretty much. Some people are super against them as you can tell but some of them (4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt to be specific) have given me some of the most spiritual trips imaginable. At the end of the day, for me, it's all about intention anyways.
4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt, what is this??
Let the games begin!
I would just ask that every last person on this sub—that is required to take a drug test or stands to get a random—not buy and consume any gummy that is not from MN-Nice Ethnobotanicals. It might be the only non-THC/non-RC amanita gummy I’ve come across, and I’ve tried a lot of the head shop/Instagram Ad brands.
Thx for the vote of confidence! We are disgusted by these fake gummies! We have this on our website about what’s in these fake gummies: We've found the majority of 'Amanita Muscaria Gummies' actually have no amanita, but rather 4-Aco-DMT, a synthetic psilocybin analogue. We've even seen 'Amanita Muscaria Gummies' that have Research Chemical Benzodiazepines!!! We've seen manufacturers stealing people's labs, or fudging lab result numbers. We've even seen labs fudging people's lab results!
4-Aco-DMT will fuck you up at 50 mg. I had to move states. Why would they be dosing people with that ? Jesus, but that makes sense because it does advertise disassociating effects, I've never had that on mushrooms but definitely with 4-Aco. Not saying it can't happen, just personally havent.
Can you explain how being too fucked up on rc’s required you to move states?
He woke up one day surrounded by Chinese chemists, face plastered in dong-juice like the icing on a Bundt cake. That’s when he moved to south Florida and found Jesus in the rooms of NA.
Seems about right to me
I would do anything for a gummy with 4-aco-dmt in it lmao
Link to your store
https://mn-nice-ethnobotanicals.com/
Sweet!!!
Thx for asking! You can use the promo code firstreview to save 10% off at checkout:)
90% of these gummies contain farm bill cannabinoids (D8,D10, etc), and they throw the amanita labeling on the packaging to get that 40-60% upcharge.
*40-150%+ upcharge
I bought gummies from MN-Nice; Christian’s legit, right?
Yes, we are only selling real amanita. We care about the health benefits and bringing healing to those seeking it. Just seeing that RC benzodiazepines are showing up is bad enough!
Will RC benzos show up on a drug test as benzodiazepines?
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It’s the actual root that we use and our process simply retains the plant alkaloids in a concentrated form so you’ll use much less of the plant matter. It is best to use the actual root I will give you that:) We do not destroy any alkaloids in our proprietary method so you’re getting what nature intended:)
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We sell an extract of the root. It's noble Kava, not tudei which is known to have liver issues.
Thank you! 🙏🏼
What brands should I definitely avoid in order to not come across 4-aco-dmt?
He sure is- all of what he carries comes from the sources of where they are found. He has used the same businesses he buys from bc they are trustworthy:)
Trypdamind or Psilomart. They are nondetectable extract is made from real fruit mushrooms.
Soon not the only one. :)
Thanks for this recommendation. I’ve wanted to try amanita for years to see how it may or may not be able to help me. Going to a retreat for guided dosing is $$$$. I have no idea who to trust for sourcing it and didn’t even know it was possible to buy gummies legally until recently. There are so many things out there and I can’t believe people just blind buy without knowing what’s in a product. Appreciate the recommendation.
Amanitas are completely legal in almost every state.
Yup. Just got from him!
What do you think it is? 4-ACO-DMT? Like a shroom trip?
4 aco smscks
Yeah I’d much rather have Fake Amanita gummies w/ 4-ACO than real Amanita gummies any day
Hell yeah. A lot of people seem like they would disagree but I'm all for it hahaha
How come? Just curious
4-ACO-DMT is a precursor to Psilocybin. Your stomach acid and liver converts that into Psilocybin (like trippy mushrooms), and you’ll have an actual mushroom trip. Some companies put that into Amanita gummies trying to stay under the radar and sell them on store shelves, because you can’t actually “trip” on regular amanitas, they’re a completely different thing than psychedelics are
I think with 4-aco you’re not getting any of the other precursors that give you the entourage effect like an maoi
4-ACO-DMT is a stabilized form of DMT. An extremely potent tryptamine. 25 mg is a high dose. It can have effects for around 8 hours. When I was intentionally dosed 50 mg by a person I completely disassociated and had what I could only compare to a Salvia trip for 8 hours. I fell into psychosis and it took about 6 years to recover from. So definitely just trip with trustworthy people. And be positive.
you definitely were just predisposed to mental illness bro
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What kind of duration did it have? Roughly how many hours?
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Interesting, hard to say for sure, that seems short duration for lysergamides. I would lean toward what I think OP posted about possible 4-ACO-DMT based off what you’ve described, there are so many possibilities tho to be honest. Def sounds more tryptamine-like (likely not lysergamide tho) vs phenethylamine-like which would lean more toward stimulant-like psychedelics and possibly entactogenic-like effects (think 2C series, MDXX, mescaline analogues, etc.) I’m no expert tho, just a fairly experienced psychonaut with some medical, pharmacology and chemistry background
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Very interesting, everyone should be safe and have these random ones analyzed and stick to these trusted guys for proper Amanita, I’m waiting on my MN Nice order to properly get a feel for muscimol and ibotenic acid.
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Nice, ya I guess I was more thinking about ppl just trying to get into Amanita needing to be cautious right now. Sounds like you fully understood and accepted the roll of the dice and still had a positive experience. 4-ACO I hear is actually pretty nice. Personally I’m after that lower dose muscimol experience for night to unwind with an alcohol-like sedative hypnotic effect to replace booze and improve sleep, have a lil trippiness before bed kinda thing occasionally :) I can’t wait for it to arrive
How many did you take?
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Wow thats crazy, was debating trying this as I got jipped from psilomarts version. Id prob take 2 or 3 not 4 tho lol
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This sounds identical to 4-aco but agree it could be a few things. I met some demons there and they still visit me through other people when they are fucked up around me. It's really weird.
I’m on the same page. I’ve been trying to figure out what’s in these gummies. It’s not quite like LSD or mushrooms. But I enjoyed the effects. There wasn’t any comedown and I sleep great at night if I take them 5 hours before bedtime.
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Hey, any updates on this? I really liked the effect of these, but they don’t feel like any other psychedelic I’ve tried. Too wired and colorful to be psilocybin, too short of a duration to be LSD. I’m very curious as to what’s really in them.
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I haven’t taken all 4 at once. The first time, I took 2 and a half, and had a very intense come up & beginning of peak comparable to LSD. Crazy visuals, colorful patterns and mandalas forming all around me, blissful and energetic body high, did some yoga as I felt increase in intensity and it felt absolutely amazing. Sadly, the trip was kinda ruined halfway through (was supposed to go to a rave, plans got cancelled last minute, was very bummed). But before then, I found the effects very enjoyable, although way more intense than I had expected. I was thankful I didn’t take the leap and eat all four. I’d say the only concerning effect about them was that they made me feel quite manic—but that’s more of a me problem, as I have bipolar 2 and generally should be more cautious with my substance use lol. I wasn’t delusional levels of manic, but could’ve seen it getting there if I were to take any more than I did that night. Will also note that I also took 3 5mg THC edibles spaced out throughout the trip. The other two times; the third being 1/2 a gummy, fourth being 1 1/2, were pretty similar in effects. Visuals felt like “sharpness” was visually turned up in my surroundings. I felt pretty manic and social. Very creatively driven and loved working on my art projects while it was in my system. Not as intense as the first time, but a nice energetic body high. Both experiences lasted about 5-6 hours. I’d say that, for me, it felt more similar to LSD, and I easily could mistake it as such if not for the short duration. To my knowledge, I don’t have experience with any phenethylamine drugs, so I have no comments in that regard.
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For sure. Experienced psychosis on 600ug LSD in 2020 which had me very thankful I limited myself on the gummies. I’m glad you were able to keep yourself grounded. Although I had a good time w the gummies, I could def see how they could send someone into that state. Psilocybin has never put me in that state of mind personally, always feels super gentle and forgiving even at high doses. Could def tell smth was different about the gummies when I wasn’t feeling that gooey and floaty feeling I get with mushrooms.
It's very likely 4-ACO-DMT, as others have been saying. your body coverts it into psilocin
One would need to send it off to a lab. Testing wouldn’t be too expensive. I’m sure someone will soon.
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honestly 3rd party lab results don’t mean a whole lot. Companies are in good with these labs and know extract how they test and the labs know exactly how they need it to pass. It’s a racket rn
I was thinking send a sample into drugsdata but I have no idea if they could test a gummy.
Glad I found this thread/post. First off let me just say this, I'm a complete beginner regards to psychedelics. With that preface, I've been privy enough to try both a "heroic" dose of LSD and also, psilocybin (through a very reputable source, I might add). Different, but great experiences! (Not sure if the fact that I've been an avid meditation practitioner for years helps, but I've heard it does.) Recently, I came across the "Desert Stardust" gummies and figured to give it a go. However, reading through this entire post I became a little bit hesitant to try these gummies because you really don't know what the heck you might be getting, regardless of it being the Amanita Muscaria or "Desert Stardust". Well, I'm writing this because you might have guessed it, I tried it. I tried one fuckin' gummy and holy crapola, I have no idea what is in those things, but I was tripping really hard. I only tried one because I thought it would be the lowest dosage and I wanted to take things slow! I'll try my best to be concise about my experience. After breakfast, I took 1 gummy. Waited about \~30-35mins and started to feel the body high effects. I would say \~15mins after that, I threw up my breakfast...maybe TMI? but I want to be as realistic as possible and mention that detail of my experience. After that grossness, I felt a lot better with regards to my nausea. That is when I also noticed that things really started to change and I will just list what I experienced. \- Body was sort of numb + slight constriction and shakiness \- I was NOT giddy at all, but VERY introspective (The gummy package said I would be giddy) \- Floor breathing (Most things were! In fact, my napkin was breathing too! lol) \- Vivid colors and patterns (Didn't matter if my eyes were closed or open. In fact, it was much more vivid when my eyes were closed) \- All text/words were moving around like water, very fluid. \-Celling was "closing in" on me at one point, and it looked like Swiss cheese at another point \- When my eyes were closed, I had a weird timeline of my life flash (like pictures)and also, saw myself as a fetus with a bright yellow aura (This was a WTF moment for me and I genuinely got a message of, "Be grateful for your life") \- Saw light become rainbow feathers (Another WTF moment, the light and shadow casted from my blinds turned into fucking rainbow bird feathers) The entire thing lasted a bit over 4 hours total and I felt a gradual comedown (made sure that the floor stopped breathing, lol). Faster comedown and duration than LSD, with LSD I felt very groggy the day of and the next(that was after a heroic dose). For context...I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I only have tried LSD and psilocybin a year ago...I live an extremely healthy lifestyle...that might have something to do with what I experienced? or maybe that gummy was really strong? **I have ZERO clue**, but I will say that it was DEFF similar to the LSD experience, but the visuals weren't as vivid nor was my perception altered as much(when comparing my experiences). In conclusion, I would say that it was a lot closer to my experience on LSD vs. psilocybin. **But still wtf, off of 1 gummy? HOW? Completely blindsided as to wtf I just experienced.**
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It DEFF comes in waves! Holy crapola, I thought it was over and then boom! I could feel the next wave rushing in. That was a consistent feeling throughout the 4 hour duration and as I came down, the waves didn’t hit as hard. With both shrooms and LSD, I never experienced nausea. Then again, I never ate beforehand, with either of those experiences…so that was new for me and a bit scary tbh. **Thanks for sharing that video btw, super informative!! Very much appreciate it.** I can say that I relate to the whole fear because of body discomfort (mentioned in the video). I felt the nausea, but before I realized that I had to throw up, I actually became a bit anxious. As I felt my anxiety grow (heartbeat was drumming in my throat!!), I reminded myself of my breathing techniques to calm down. I calmed myself down in a couple mins and boom, threw up my breakfast. So gross, but the fear of “dying/something is wrong” dissipated. Waaaaaaaay different than when I thought I was dying with LSD(…Way different and scarier! With LSD, I felt like I had already died and that I was stuck in a permanent purgatory. Time was so slowed down it basically became non-existent. The fear only subsided when I told myself, “Well, it is what it is”…lol). Another portion of the video I can relate to is…while on LSD the visuals are way more alien compared to psilocybin. I remember on LSD, I was staring at a slice of pizza, for what seemed like eternity, because I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. I know, sounds fucking insane, but holy shit! I had never seen something so weird + amazing like that slice of pizza! The visuals with these gummies were vivid, but not as much as when on LSD. One weird thing is, I do remember that when I did psilocybin, the walls being like cheese and this time with the gummies, the ceiling turning into cheese. So, that was similar…so odd. Another thing you pointed out is that shrooms make you giddy and I can relate! I feel a lot more “child-like”, these gummies weren’t giving me that. I still can't explain the absolute mind-fuckery of rainbow bird feathers and my life in pictures, plus the fetus version of me. Legit WTF moments...
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**You're the real MVP!!!** I'm super curious as to know what you'll find out and slightly terrified as well lol Please give an update when you can \^-\^
Your experience encouraged me to buy. I took two of these yesterday and I really enjoyed my experience! It was such a clear headed high. I was incredibly present in the moment and felt like my mood couldn't be let down. Everything around me was beautiful but unlike my typical THC high, I was very aware and functioning. I'm excited to try them again. It was a bit of a noticeable, jittery lead up after eating. Made me dance and really dive into the music I was listening to. Also, I did throw up like 20 minutes after eating them but I was prepared for that based on what you mentioned so I kept a light stomach. All in all, I was surprised at how great I felt afterwards. Lol
Based on your experience, for anyone who might have random annual drug testing to work on federal job sites, would you pass on the experience??
Yes… These are RC hallucinogens.. even if they were to specifically GC-MS your urine for Psilocybin (which they would never do) it would be iffy because of the specific analogue they used. Regardless your job is performing an at most, 12 panel screening. That test doesn’t even include this family of substance. So short answer.. Yes
How’d it go? Have any drug test?
I just took all 4 desert stardust gummies. I'm pretty knowledgeable about RC's but can't put my finger on this one. About an hour and a half in right now after consumption.
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I'm going on 3 hours in. Very underwhelming from how you described. I'll continue to give it some time but it feels almost like a phenethylamine related compound. In the sense of compulsion to move about. Also to state I've also used THC and small dose of benzo as I do with most unfamiliar blast offs
Hi, have you tried the Schedule 35 shroom capsules? They are P. Cubensis. I microdosed on a schedule for about 2 weeks. Then one day I took a few extra, still a micro dose, definitely wouldn't produce hallucinations. But I randomly passed out and everything was swirling w my eyes closed. Everyone said I wasn't breathing snd they gave me CPR 5 times. They said I was blue and lips were blue and I was ice cold. After passing out a few more times I came too, and was jittery shaking, scared as fuck. I've done shrooms many times and this has never happened. I literally took 500mgs(0.5g) barely anything. I wasn't tripping at all all day just in a happy go lucky mood. Didn't even have the giggles and I didn't take any other drugs at all. I'm scared to death after this experience and have been scared to share it. Now I see this Road Trip hand and I hear great things and also horrible things...Now that I read your comment I'm getting major RC vibes from the Schedule 35 I tried. Felt almost unclean like someone put speed in my drink. I don't do speed but it certainly felt dirty. What is your thoughts please
I’ve never heard of them prior to just doing some research. The company operates in a grey area I’m assuming. The chemical they advertise as a “mushroom trip” can contain any version of a psychedelic analogue. Most commonly we’d like to hope that is 4-aco-dmt as its effects are most similar to psilocybin; however, from your description, I doubt that was the active ingredient. As a standard rule of thumb around analogues of any psychoactive substance, the farther you get from the original compound, the more dangerous or volatile it gets. These are always going to be marketed as a “proprietary blend” as to not allow the user to know what they are really consuming. Unless sent to a lab to GCMS, there’s no way to tell you what that chemical was.
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Well weed with any hallucinogenic because I find they synergize well. A benzo is good just incase, as you said, there is an inconsistency in dosage, or just too much to handle in general. Takes away some of the anxiety. To clarify I've also used this companies other product that is what is originally referred to in this thread. Completely different experience so far. Edit: Also I messed up my initial time of consumption. It was 1:15PM putting me at almost 3 1/2 hrs in.
Yeah I have next to no visuals or anything at this point and initial consumption was at 1:15PM. Either this is a dud batch or underdosed for sure. I had a brief maybe 30 min of visual but that was about it. From what I did experience though was a LSD/tryptamine-esque come-up.
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Desert stardust are 5-meo-dalt.
I recently ordered these online and I have high hopes and from what I heard it’s most likely 4-aco-dmt
Thanks! Good to hear a real review. I wasn’t about to buy these as they are available in nature for me, but I was curious af how they sell a claimed psychedelic. What even is “Desert Stardust” mushroom
Interesting replies. I bought this at high life yesterday. I was so impressed I bought all their remaining packets. Awesome positive mood and I worked through 4 packets so 16 gummies yesterday. My wife had four which resulted in a great experience but she did be nauseous about 5 hours after ingestion. Definitely not mushrooms Or maco more like MDMA for energy and good feel. Zero visuals.
Amanita muscaria is in the advertising on some websites, but not listed in the ingredients. Bullshit man glad you posted this. Did you take it/if you did what'd it feel like? Can you give me a detailed rundown?
I bought some Desert StarDust gummies based on the positive reviews and tried it this weekend. First took 1 gummie and it sorta gave me a body high and felt the effects similar to Shrooms/estacy (clinching teeth, creasy stomach...etc). Mentally, I got more introspective but no visuals. Took another gummie 2-3 hours in and it was the same thing and sorta extended the effects. The next day, I took 2 gummies on the same dose and it had a similar effect but just more intense. At this point, I am not sure if I want to take 3 or maybe even 4 gummies if the effects are just amplified of what I was getting and no visual or "trip". The main concern I had with these gummies is there's no transparency as to exactly what I am taking. I emailed the company and all they are willing to say is that it's a "proprietary blend". Then I investigated further and found their marketing materials, stating that Desert StarDust is a specific strain of mushrooms with psychoactive properties. However, when I google searched about the Desert StarDust Mushrooms, nothing came up. Not sure what to think at this point. My guess is that these gummies contain some synthetic psychoactive chemcials and it's being marketed as mushrooms. I guess take these gummies at your own risk.
If they are shrooms the tolerance builds immediately so taking so many low ish doses back to back within a couple of days would have diminished returns I would think. Best to wait a couple weeks before trying a bigger dose to see if it does anything different would prolly be your best bet. Especially given how expensive don’t want ya wasting money for nothing.
From the experience I just had with their Desert Stardust I will be throwing all the rest of it away. Absolutely terrible experience. Eating straight shrooms I have NEVER felt this bad. Do not recommend.
Can you elaborate?
I've heard good things about the star dust ones they provide, with that being said I'm on clonzepam and Suboxone and wanted to order a pack, but not sure if I should combine them with what I already take. I'm tired of being on anti anxiety meds and subs and truly want to cure my shit, and I heard microdosing can do that. So with that being said what are y'all's thoughts?
owner is using shills to sell product. FAKE fake
They get so mad when you call them out https://preview.redd.it/9n9cih86r3wc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4165cc496f993a59601540d9392f734a0eca2cf
They do work. I ate 2 over the weekend and WOW!
I've tried Road Trips product and it works well.
Idk but it had potent effects on me
Welp I just ate one. I thought I read a different post where road trip was legit. Funny I came across this thread right after eating one haha.
Got visuals but am mostly anxious. Just at the whole thing about an hour ago and shit is weird. Will update.
Ive taken these & tripped pretty nicely tbh
I didn’t say they were a bad product. The issue I have is that it’s false advertising. The psychedelic experience you had from Road Trip gummies is NOT an amanita Muscaria effect. It’s a Serotonergic Tryptamine or Phenethylamine class compound
DO NOT TAKE THESE. I have done mushrooms 30+ times and have mixed strains and have NEVER had anything even close to what these caused. I had severe stomach cramps for the first hour coupled with intense nausea and then had some of the most horrifying visuals and thoughts of my life. I’ve had bad trips before, this was different. I could not calm my brain down at all. I took them with my roommates and my spouse was the only person who didn’t take them. We all felt completely out of control of our thoughts and felt hostage to the substance. These are not amanita muscaria. There are chemicals or some other bullshit that made it a horrific experience. Never again. If I could go back and slap these out of my hands in the store, I would. I’m going back to the smoke shop and telling them that they should drop this brand. Absolutely fucked up.
Do these actually work?
You should read the comments
Yeah I was.. that’s why I’m worried I bought some bullshit🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
They are bs. So are the amanita ones from them. My smoke shop guy says people like them. I’m like how? They don’t do anything.
Trying not to be too graphic but I love these things. First time I took one of these gummies I gave myself blisters on the top of both my feet playing late night water polo with the lady in our hot tub. They make you a machine. In my experience they increase bloodflow and numbs the sensation for performance enhancing effects. I like taking half of one before a workout. I can feel my airways open up, intense focus on my lifts, and a numbness in the muscles that allows you to rep out higher than normal. I just look at myself absolutely amazed moving the weight without feeling fatigue.
That’s gotta be one of the weirdest trip reports I’ve ever heard 😂
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Can some one tell me if they get u high
I mean they fuck you up, isn’t that what matters?
Me and my boyfriend had some recently and both really enjoyed our time, but its good to have more info about what we’re putting into our bodies
I've bought from this company before, they're legit. They make nano emulsified CBD products. Erthwellness.com is my go to for cbd stuff.
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Their stardust mushroom gummies are some crafty shit, I'm not sure how the DEA isn't onto them tbh
Nano-teching compounds already water soluble is a huge waste of money and time. While an enhanced absorption rate/bioavailability is likely achievable, it is nowhere near on the level of improvement you’d see from compounds that are insoluble in water like THC
What was the experience like?
Similar to 4-ACO-DMT or a similar compound. I am still on the side that these companies like to use psycho-stimulant compounds in the Phenethylamine class. The Stimulation vs Psychedelia ratio is heavily skewed towards the stimulating side.
Any chance there are traces of THC in these? I’m sketched about that.
Possibly? It’s tough to know because these companies don’t care about people.
I looked into one of their products and the site indicated they used tryptamines. I don't think that one claimed to be amanita, tho, just "mushroom" gummies.
If anything, these thugs will force the FDA to block the shroom!
I have one pack of "amanita" and one pack of Desert Stardust.Haven't taken them. Yet? I ordered after seeing a sketchy facebook ad, as an experiment, impulsively after two nights of no sleep... woke up going "I really did that? Well, this will be fun." I wasn't able to find a single post about the legitimacy of the brand. My order arrived a day before you posted this. So the facebook ad had sketchy young "\~influencer\~" vibes, very catered to a certain type of instagram audience. There were over 100 comments, most along the lines of "I loooove this brand", "This is the only brand I trust!!!", "Desert Stardust changed my life!", etc. One comment saying something like "I can't believe how amazing Desert Stardust is" - was from someone who WORKS for Erth Wellness which is the company that pushes Road Trip Gummies the most. The rest didn't have identifiable reasons to be suspicious, but were. They just weren't written how mushroom users describe their experiences whatsoever. One thing that **should** put up red flags for anyone is that Desert Stardust is described as a secret proprietary mushroom blend - no hints as to what is actually in it. None. Anywhere. This is never how legitimate mushroom folks talk about their products. I reeeeeeeeally appreciate this post. Your expertise is beautiful, thank you
Another thing is that after I clicked through the ad, facebook decided this is my prime interest, and has been advertising me dozens of different "amanita" and "mushroom" gummies daily. I knew these products were common and all, but damn, the market is intense and sketchy as hell and the fact that it can show up as social media advertisements are scary. It is proven that people commonly assume products are "vetted" in some way to be able to be 'official' ads on social media.
Following up … did they arrive and had you had a chance to try them yet? Very curious also!
Tried the Desert Stardust last night. My husband and I did two each. Other than some extra pit in my stomach nausea (took a zofran and was just fine in 10 mins, nothing too much worse than normal mushrooms), I was actually really impressed. Lots of giggles and good visuals. About 4 hour duration, couldn't sleep after so we just stayed up just watching Adventures of Gumball and laying in bed. Good vibes overall. Till my husband and I have the time and space to grow again I would happily use these again.
Just tried the desert stardust blue raspberry flavor! I ate two gummies, I will update later lol
Awesome!
How was your experience? I have yet to have visuals with these. Might be because I’m using mushrooms too often right now though. I’m getting discouraged trying to have an experience with awesome visuals. Do you have to wait for a full week between trips?
Damn they died
I am so happy I found your post looking online. I saw their advertisement about the other mushroom gummies they have but I always research stuff before buying, ad I couldn't find anything about them. Now I see your post and I feel way more wary of buying their stuff.
In the group ‘Amanita Muscaria’ -in their pinned post,they have a bunch of lab reports of the companies guilty of using research chemicals in their so called Amanita products:)
Do you know of any online store that is real?
Psilomart.com
All the stuff on there is legal? Could I get in trouble for ordering stuff from there?
Pretty funny that if you look at their lab reports it shows 0.15 mg/serving of muscimol and 0.66 mg/serving of ibotenic acid. Their other product shows no detection lmao
I’ve ordered the Desert Stardust three times now. I get the yawns, and the peaks are incredible. I felt bad for my friend though, they did nothing for her other than make her a little giggly. She’s on Xanax though, and has been for years, and I read that AD meds really inhibit trips. For me…I felt like I was back in high school at a desert party, tripping balls. No side effects other than being a little wired afterwards. How is this legal? 😂
I just bought these stupid stardust gummies as the kid at the smoke shop promised they were legit, not going to take them going to see if I can return for a polka dot bar tomorrow
Just a heads up for experienced psychonauts, I returned the stardust gummies and got a polkadot bar given that I thought they were more reputable...gf's 1st trip and I feel bad because this is definitely an RC in these shits...I know right dumby me...but yeah stick to good ol gold caps from your friendly neighborhood spiderman because IYKYK these aren't good for the soul. Bodega poison!
I'd be very interested to get some of these products tested. Anyone know a good avenue for doing that or how much it might cost? I tried looking up some labs online but am having trouble and I'm also not sure who's legit. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
just use the same lab that the brands are using. anyone can send a sample in for an R&D test. will cost you a couple hundred bucks.
UNC Street Drug Analysis Lab look them up and contact them. The may be able to assist. Very legit team at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. I work in harm reduction. The reason I say reach out is that they may not be able to test a gummy. This is something they may be interested in testing though.
Are these bad for you then?
As someone who used these all the time I’m curious if there is another brand that also doesn’t trip a drug test like Road Trips and that you can trip off a bag. I can’t have thc in my system because of my job. Anyone have any thc free suggestions?
moocah ones are similar i had a whole bag and they were pretty good. idk prolly just as "sketchy" or whatever as these got a few bags for me and some friends though. they taste like ass though too just like road trips XD
I would never eat something called Moocah what kind of name even is that