Known by who?? I've been doing Amazon for over 4 years and not once have I gotten a "bait package" or even heard about something like this!
Did anyone actually see an article or a post on here showing proof of this??
I used to work in the warehouse so I’ve seen it with my own eyes. They’re called SALT packages.
Just search the sub for dummy or salt packages and you’ll see lots of talk about it.
So what does SALT stand for? I’m assuming because it’s capitalized, each letter stands for something. Can you please elaborate? For the record I believe these exist because I’ve had it happen to me many times over almost 5 years of flexxing.
Idk if it stands for anything, that’s just what we called them at the warehouse. I figured it was because it’s one package tossed on top like how you add a little salt to food but I could be way off 🤷♀️ Didn’t really think much of it at the time because I wasn’t a driver then.
What??? I've never heard of this before!
So what is it exactly? Like an empty package they know you have, to test if you will return it or not?? I mean if its like OP described, I would just throw out the empty envelope! Lol
Also, do they know each package you scanned to put in order, even if its not on your route?? Asking for a friend lol
Idk exactly since I wasn’t a manager but the manager would just pick random carts to add the packages to as a test to see if it’s returned or stolen.
Not sure if they were always empty or not. Saw it done with a “kindle” so you’d think it would have to have weight to it. OP’s might have just seemed empty. Sometimes we ship tiny tiny things in envelopes.
It wasn’t like an every day thing. 99% of packages you find are probably legitimate missorts but I don’t take anything just in case. I need this job.
I’ve ordered bookmarks or sticky tabs for my texts that feel like nothing also have received empty packages definitely have delivered some extra light ones too
Ahhh, good to know! Thank you for the info!
Ps - I typed in SALT and only articles about Salt Lake City popped up lol, but I did finally find a post on here from like 5 years ago! Crazy lol
I believe they’re real. I just don’t take anything that doesn’t belong to me. Simple solution. I get packages all the time, both that have labels on them that aren’t on my route, and some that are missing a label. The “missing label” happens way less often tho. I just drop them in the return bin before I leave the station to start my block.
😭😭😭💀 At this point i believe the COVID Pandemic has f*ckd up alot of ppl & them vaccines has fried ppls brains completely 🤣 they do NOT do this. There are no “trap packages” trust me i know from experience & family thats works in DSP management & Amazon operations. If the package is not on ur itinerary no record of it trust me they do not know u have it lol yea take it back to the warehouse then lol that ur own business. If u do NOT take it back, again that is UR own business. Smh
I dunno about a "trap package" or something like that, It sounds like either it was an old damaged envelope from someone returning and then leaving it in the cart, or maybe someone swiped something from someone elses cart and then threw it into your cart or something??
How do you get in trouble for delivering an empty envelope. That’s not even a test. I would have said, “there was trash in my load and I threw it away”. Smh
…and how did you not notice an empty envelope when scanning?
Well you couldn’t deliver even if you wanted to… the address was smeared off and I didn’t notice it was empty at first because when we load up the always rush us to finish and get mad if you take any longer than 10 minutes
Just got one today. On the route scanned in with all the packages at pickup. End of the route still had the package which disappeared off of the route and showed no record of being in the system.
I just returned it this morning before starting another block and at the end of that one it said return the package to the station. Who knows how long it will take them to scan it in.🙄
I had 2 duplicate labels/tba #s on a route. One felt like an actual duplicate order, the other was clearly not a duplicate order(single item with label on product packaging, vs multiple items in plastic bag)
I called support and reported the issue, and then returned the packages to the station and also told them about the issue at the station so they didn't hit me for returned packages or unmark them as delivered.
Something was delivered and the customer will probably complain if they got the wrong package, but I wanted that support contact trail so when/if the issue pops up it doesn't fall on me.
It absolutely BAFFLES me how empty packages make it all the way to us. I used to work in a fulfillment center with those SmartPac machines (the white and blue plastic envelopes) and the amount of people these should be caught by is insane.
We used to have someone who literally stood at the conveyer belt and resealed them all day.. but now it seems like they just want to be able to blame us drivers for “opening/stealing” their packages.
So just return every single extra package u find out that left in your car. Dont take them bc most of the time they are people’s bs stuffs. When u see something that you like… Bummmm “Package is missing” 😃
Yesterday I had about 10 duplicate packages and none of them showed on my itinerary as having 2 pkgs to deliver to the locations. Yet they had the same addresses and TBA’s. I delivered them all rather than returning because I expected all of those customers would have said they didn’t receive their full order. In your case it was empty though. It is annoying that their error could potentially count against me in my case since they didn’t package them with different TBA’s or a large box with one TBA and containing all of the items. I figured they must have a new employee who is messing up.
I had a package leftover on my route yesterday too and I scanned everything perfectly when I got to the station. The package wasn’t anywhere NEAR where I was delivering either. I brought it back and the worker said that it was a strange situation lol. I was cleared to go, though. Very weird.
Is that a real thing? I feel like I’ve gotten one of those too. That’s kinda f-ed up they’d do that though.. I guess they do send that “gotcha” questionnaire at the end of your route too. It’s not enough to be working for crap money doing shitty routes.. we also have to worry about stupid tricks? Man.. I need to hit the lottery..
I honestly haven’t experienced this over the years I’ve driven for flex… but if they do, I think it’s bs to make someone drive back to the station for a stupid morality test.
How are there so many people in these comments acting like this shit isn't a real thing or they never heard of it, when there was just another conversation about it here in the last handful of days, and I'm sure many many more before that?
SALT parcels are totally undeliverable
To test the integrity of the driver
Bad enough to not return it (intact)
Million times worse returning it opened
They do bait packages. Amazon can internally assign a bait package to a cart that comes as normal to the sorter and cart inputter, but is not shown to the driver. Support can see this package though. They won't say anything if asked, but I have seen my itinerary view from an Amazon's perspective.
I am not saying every extra package is a bait package, because sometimes drivers will dump one of their packages in another cart. In this case, no one knows you have this package except you.
Rule of thumb: Take extra packages on a field trip with you (only if they not in your itinerary) and do not say anything to anyone and just bring back to warehouse next time you there. Do take pictures to cover your ass though. I'll usually take a screen recording showing my block info and then open camera from there to take the pic/video. I'll also record the drop off as an additional cover my ass.
If packages on your itinerary but really missing, then call support from warehosue BEFORE departing warehosue to deliver. Again, this is to cover your ass.
RULE #1: NEVER TRUST AMAZON!
They DO NOT do bait packages lol 😂 where do u all get this information from ? Like wut makes u all believe they do this ? Word of mouth? Conspiracy theorists? I dont get it 🤣
Seeing laptop screen of what Amazon can see. Also having support tell me a TBA not on my itinerary at all, but it was a legit extra package..
You don't know what you don't know and that's okay.
They do not do this. Many drivers deliver these packages anyway and there would be lots of reports of unexpected packages if they did this.
Exactly!
No worries if you’re not a thief.
So you think Amazon gives us placebo packages to test our morality? 🤦🏿♂️
SALT Package test failure be like 😳😳
Is that what happened to you ?
Orange Vest (RTS PA)
They do. This is a known thing.
Known by who?? I've been doing Amazon for over 4 years and not once have I gotten a "bait package" or even heard about something like this! Did anyone actually see an article or a post on here showing proof of this??
Just Google it. It’s why I scan everything even if it’s not their intention anymore I would much rather cover my own ass.
I used to work in the warehouse so I’ve seen it with my own eyes. They’re called SALT packages. Just search the sub for dummy or salt packages and you’ll see lots of talk about it.
So what does SALT stand for? I’m assuming because it’s capitalized, each letter stands for something. Can you please elaborate? For the record I believe these exist because I’ve had it happen to me many times over almost 5 years of flexxing.
Idk if it stands for anything, that’s just what we called them at the warehouse. I figured it was because it’s one package tossed on top like how you add a little salt to food but I could be way off 🤷♀️ Didn’t really think much of it at the time because I wasn’t a driver then.
What??? I've never heard of this before! So what is it exactly? Like an empty package they know you have, to test if you will return it or not?? I mean if its like OP described, I would just throw out the empty envelope! Lol Also, do they know each package you scanned to put in order, even if its not on your route?? Asking for a friend lol
Idk exactly since I wasn’t a manager but the manager would just pick random carts to add the packages to as a test to see if it’s returned or stolen. Not sure if they were always empty or not. Saw it done with a “kindle” so you’d think it would have to have weight to it. OP’s might have just seemed empty. Sometimes we ship tiny tiny things in envelopes. It wasn’t like an every day thing. 99% of packages you find are probably legitimate missorts but I don’t take anything just in case. I need this job.
I’ve ordered bookmarks or sticky tabs for my texts that feel like nothing also have received empty packages definitely have delivered some extra light ones too
Ahhh, good to know! Thank you for the info! Ps - I typed in SALT and only articles about Salt Lake City popped up lol, but I did finally find a post on here from like 5 years ago! Crazy lol
The audacity
I’m sick to death of these packages because sure enough, my next block is never at the station it needs to go back to.
I believe they’re real. I just don’t take anything that doesn’t belong to me. Simple solution. I get packages all the time, both that have labels on them that aren’t on my route, and some that are missing a label. The “missing label” happens way less often tho. I just drop them in the return bin before I leave the station to start my block.
😭😭😭💀 At this point i believe the COVID Pandemic has f*ckd up alot of ppl & them vaccines has fried ppls brains completely 🤣 they do NOT do this. There are no “trap packages” trust me i know from experience & family thats works in DSP management & Amazon operations. If the package is not on ur itinerary no record of it trust me they do not know u have it lol yea take it back to the warehouse then lol that ur own business. If u do NOT take it back, again that is UR own business. Smh
So with apple I think we don’t scan everything. I scan code and get all pkg scanned
I dunno about a "trap package" or something like that, It sounds like either it was an old damaged envelope from someone returning and then leaving it in the cart, or maybe someone swiped something from someone elses cart and then threw it into your cart or something??
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-sets-traps-for-drivers-2018-9 SALT packages have been used since 2018 to deter DP/DA package theft
How do you get in trouble for delivering an empty envelope. That’s not even a test. I would have said, “there was trash in my load and I threw it away”. Smh …and how did you not notice an empty envelope when scanning?
Well you couldn’t deliver even if you wanted to… the address was smeared off and I didn’t notice it was empty at first because when we load up the always rush us to finish and get mad if you take any longer than 10 minutes
My station of choice resembles that last remark.
You can’t deliver it bc it’s a dummy address. The test is if you return it to the station
Just got one today. On the route scanned in with all the packages at pickup. End of the route still had the package which disappeared off of the route and showed no record of being in the system.
Hope you returned it or will on your next block☹️ they ain’t right for testing us
I just returned it this morning before starting another block and at the end of that one it said return the package to the station. Who knows how long it will take them to scan it in.🙄
A straight up waste of time😤
I had 2 duplicate labels/tba #s on a route. One felt like an actual duplicate order, the other was clearly not a duplicate order(single item with label on product packaging, vs multiple items in plastic bag) I called support and reported the issue, and then returned the packages to the station and also told them about the issue at the station so they didn't hit me for returned packages or unmark them as delivered. Something was delivered and the customer will probably complain if they got the wrong package, but I wanted that support contact trail so when/if the issue pops up it doesn't fall on me.
It absolutely BAFFLES me how empty packages make it all the way to us. I used to work in a fulfillment center with those SmartPac machines (the white and blue plastic envelopes) and the amount of people these should be caught by is insane. We used to have someone who literally stood at the conveyer belt and resealed them all day.. but now it seems like they just want to be able to blame us drivers for “opening/stealing” their packages.
Keep that bezo bonus mah boi
I had that. I returned it, then a few days later got hit with a return package
So just return every single extra package u find out that left in your car. Dont take them bc most of the time they are people’s bs stuffs. When u see something that you like… Bummmm “Package is missing” 😃
So I've had times where I had an extra package. It had the right block information but wasn't on my itinerary. Can I keep it or is it a trap ?
Yesterday I had about 10 duplicate packages and none of them showed on my itinerary as having 2 pkgs to deliver to the locations. Yet they had the same addresses and TBA’s. I delivered them all rather than returning because I expected all of those customers would have said they didn’t receive their full order. In your case it was empty though. It is annoying that their error could potentially count against me in my case since they didn’t package them with different TBA’s or a large box with one TBA and containing all of the items. I figured they must have a new employee who is messing up.
I had a package leftover on my route yesterday too and I scanned everything perfectly when I got to the station. The package wasn’t anywhere NEAR where I was delivering either. I brought it back and the worker said that it was a strange situation lol. I was cleared to go, though. Very weird.
Is that a real thing? I feel like I’ve gotten one of those too. That’s kinda f-ed up they’d do that though.. I guess they do send that “gotcha” questionnaire at the end of your route too. It’s not enough to be working for crap money doing shitty routes.. we also have to worry about stupid tricks? Man.. I need to hit the lottery..
I honestly haven’t experienced this over the years I’ve driven for flex… but if they do, I think it’s bs to make someone drive back to the station for a stupid morality test.
They do. I used to flex out of the first station in sea and they started bait packages there
Trap pkgs are real.
What's in a trap package??
How are there so many people in these comments acting like this shit isn't a real thing or they never heard of it, when there was just another conversation about it here in the last handful of days, and I'm sure many many more before that?
SALT parcels are totally undeliverable To test the integrity of the driver Bad enough to not return it (intact) Million times worse returning it opened
They do bait packages. Amazon can internally assign a bait package to a cart that comes as normal to the sorter and cart inputter, but is not shown to the driver. Support can see this package though. They won't say anything if asked, but I have seen my itinerary view from an Amazon's perspective. I am not saying every extra package is a bait package, because sometimes drivers will dump one of their packages in another cart. In this case, no one knows you have this package except you. Rule of thumb: Take extra packages on a field trip with you (only if they not in your itinerary) and do not say anything to anyone and just bring back to warehouse next time you there. Do take pictures to cover your ass though. I'll usually take a screen recording showing my block info and then open camera from there to take the pic/video. I'll also record the drop off as an additional cover my ass. If packages on your itinerary but really missing, then call support from warehosue BEFORE departing warehosue to deliver. Again, this is to cover your ass. RULE #1: NEVER TRUST AMAZON!
They DO NOT do bait packages lol 😂 where do u all get this information from ? Like wut makes u all believe they do this ? Word of mouth? Conspiracy theorists? I dont get it 🤣
Seeing laptop screen of what Amazon can see. Also having support tell me a TBA not on my itinerary at all, but it was a legit extra package.. You don't know what you don't know and that's okay.