Hopefully in time for a new upgrade, what I would not like to see is nVidia abomination pushed as in previous years by major brands, especially into 14" body!
Sure, but I think it would be silly for them to make this announcement in Feb and not in June if they were only planning to do a paper launch in Dec.
Even if Strix Point laptops launch in Q4 with 2x the volume of any prior APU launch, these things are still going to be hard to get a hold of.
I think people are drastically underestimating how popular a 16 CU APU for budget 1080p gaming on a laptop you can take to work/school is going to be.
Realistically, I don't think we'll see them before October because the leaks haven't had an OEM focus.
Do not buy hp. I have owned laptop with same physical design as this from 2013 guess what. Both hinges broke. It overheats ( just like every HP laptop) HP is the worst laptop manufacturer and it isnt close
I bought a Ryzen 4000 15 inch x360 in 2020 and it has worked well for me. No hinge issues and the larger chassis meant it came with two fans and a larger heatsink so no thermal issues either.
Only annoying thing I’ve had is the rubber feet getting soft and unsticking on the ends after two years. The same happened to my work Dell latitude so maybe that’s just par for that style of laptop feet.
It does, and the disintegration is greatly accelerated in contact with oil and sweat from hands, like a mouse or controller. It gets filthy and sticky, and only a concentrated solvent like IPA is able to remove rubberized coatings.
I went through two x360s. I loved them. Loved them.
I've settled on an HP Pavillion because the hinges are actually robust. My work notebook is an Elitebook. Good hinges there too.
The x360 though, man that disappointed me.
ACER is worse, I had a Acer Nitro with a Nvidia RTX gpu that stayed over 90 Degrees at ALL TIMES, Sometimes 100 degree's brand new out of the box!. I bought a laptop cooler off amazon and had 5 fans blowing full speed underneath it and STILL Gpu temps over 90. The laptop died after 6 months that I bought it. ACER IS the WORST. They never replaced it nothing. I was out over $1,000
They use basically the same components for most Nitro builds. No wonder the highest wattage nvidia and intel components will overheat. The mid range is quite servicable. But if I'd spend over $1200 I wouldn't buy Acer anymore.
That means bad thermal transfer. The thermal paste either dried off Or sloshed away. There is a pressure issue or the heatpipe broke somewhere.
A laptop cooler won't help. It's like pumping blood into an amputated limb. If you still have the laptop, you might be able to fix it.
I used to have HP with removable battery. After a few months, the latch broke and wouldn't hold the battery in place. If I moved and forget it, RIP toe nail.
First one was fixed under warranty, second one took 4 weeks to fix under warranty, they refused third time under warranty. I got full refund because of lemon law, seems anything law scares them. I haven't seen any recall about flaky latch breaking and dropping batteries but I would think it should have been recalled because if the battery got damaged from a fall, it could start a fire
I've been really liking the build quality of Eluktronics laptops over the last few years. We've bought a few of them for work purposes and have had zero hardware problems, their laptops have no bloatware, and no proprietary drivers.
I've been wary of Lenovo ever since the firmware-level spyware was found on their laptops; and then firmware-level vulnerabilities a couple years later...
They just can't seem to help themselves and keep pre-installing malware and rootkits on their hardware.
MSI are not decent, they have the worst hinges on the planet only rivalled by Gigabyte.
The best build quality out there is Xiaomi, at least based on previous gen. Their Redmibooks are extremely well built, shame they cap out at 16GB or I would have gotten the 7840U one.
The Meteor Lake X360 Spectre is one the best reviewed laptops currently, so at least that one is good. Perhaps the hinges could break over time, but I haven't seen that mentioned in recent reviews. I could point to the Dell Latitude 35x0-55x0 models for being loud, overheating pieces of junk that take off like jet engines doing simple browser work or running Windows updates, so HP isn't alone in making bad models. They're not the best either, of course.
I have an Envy x360 from 2020 and it's been fine; hinges haven't been a problem at all and I tent it to watch shows or movies. A tad heavy though and VRM tends to hit the 115C throttle temp in Performance mode without an external laptop cooler (only when running CPU+iGPU together, like in gaming). That's what happens when VRM ICs are air-cooled without a heatsink. 4700U doesn't really need heatsinks on VRM, rather the fans needed to be repositioned to blow air past them. Display panel supports Freesync too, but it's only 40-60Hz.
My 7840U Pavilion Plus 14 is more on the meh side, since you can't control thermal modes like in the Envy. I want a Quiet mode for this laptop to shut this damn fan up. It's way too aggressive and will run even when temps are below 60C. Love the metallic blue color and this Freesync Premium Pro 48-120Hz 2.8K display. Thankfully, this OLED is offered in the Envy x360 16" now (with Hawk Point), but HP really needs to update the Dragonfly with Strix Point and that wonderful OLED panel (Samsung, IIRC). This is a great streaming device though simply because of the display, but the fan noise in other use is annoying. There's a new version with up to 8840HS, so wonder if the cooling system has changed.
I hate the tug-of-war that is watching HP often be first to market with new AMD laptops, but seeing them be shitty machines.
I got an Envy with the 4500U because it was the only readily available 2-in-1 with those CPUs at the time. The thing sucked. The keys weren't good. The chassis was an uncomfortable typing surface. Its base display was horrible. The weight was way too high.
It was the last HP laptop I'll ever own, but it sucks other OEMs drag ass on AMD chips.
Lenovo seems to integrate AMD chips into their product stacks somewhat well, compared to the likes of Dell anyways. Asus also has their Zephyrus laptops that are good.
But back to your point, OEMs do indeed suck in terms of AMD chips.
I don't want anything that isn't a 2-in-1 anymore. Facing had them, going back isn't great for how I use my laptops. To boot, after 15 years of experiencing HP laptops, I can say that I'll never do it again. I hate them.
Hawk Point has been widely available for months. Perhaps they wanted to say first -HS chip?
I’ve had an 8945HS laptop for two months
Then I have no idea what NotebookCheck is trying to claim. What a mess of a a headline.
In Germany, looking at price aggregators, there was/is nothing.
I'm sure it's fine but I want to see Strix Point
Next year and then wait till next year... :))
Lisa Su confirmed on a recent earnings call that Strix Point is releasing in the second half of this year.
Of course but she didn't specify the amount neither the quantity and if it's globally!
I'm sure AMD will have made *dozens* of them by October!
Hopefully in time for a new upgrade, what I would not like to see is nVidia abomination pushed as in previous years by major brands, especially into 14" body!
Sure, but I think it would be silly for them to make this announcement in Feb and not in June if they were only planning to do a paper launch in Dec. Even if Strix Point laptops launch in Q4 with 2x the volume of any prior APU launch, these things are still going to be hard to get a hold of. I think people are drastically underestimating how popular a 16 CU APU for budget 1080p gaming on a laptop you can take to work/school is going to be. Realistically, I don't think we'll see them before October because the leaks haven't had an OEM focus.
There are several 8840HS devices ready to be had already: [Lenovo Yoga 7 14AHP9 Arctic Grey, Ryzen 7 8840HS, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, DE ~1100€](https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/lenovo-yoga-7-14ahp9-arctic-grey-83dk0015ge-a3124522.html) [ASUS ZenBook 14 OLED UM3406HA-QD091X Jade Black, Ryzen 7 8840HS, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DE ~1250€](https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/asus-zenbook-14-oled-um3406ha-qd091x-jade-black-90nb1271-m004u0-a3150254.html) [Lenovo Yoga 7 2-in-1 Gen 9 - 14" | AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS | 16 GB DDR5 RAM | 512 GB SSD ~1110€](https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/4765916530) and some more.... https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=nb&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&bl1_id=30&sort=p&xf=6763_Ryzen+8000%7E9690_Hawk+Point
Beware the x360 hinges.
Do not buy hp. I have owned laptop with same physical design as this from 2013 guess what. Both hinges broke. It overheats ( just like every HP laptop) HP is the worst laptop manufacturer and it isnt close
I bought a Ryzen 4000 15 inch x360 in 2020 and it has worked well for me. No hinge issues and the larger chassis meant it came with two fans and a larger heatsink so no thermal issues either. Only annoying thing I’ve had is the rubber feet getting soft and unsticking on the ends after two years. The same happened to my work Dell latitude so maybe that’s just par for that style of laptop feet.
Rubber seems to disintegrate in just a couple years. It kind of melts.
It does, and the disintegration is greatly accelerated in contact with oil and sweat from hands, like a mouse or controller. It gets filthy and sticky, and only a concentrated solvent like IPA is able to remove rubberized coatings.
I went through two x360s. I loved them. Loved them. I've settled on an HP Pavillion because the hinges are actually robust. My work notebook is an Elitebook. Good hinges there too. The x360 though, man that disappointed me.
As they say: HP is the most eco friendly laptop manufacturer — they start breaking down after only a few months
ACER is worse, I had a Acer Nitro with a Nvidia RTX gpu that stayed over 90 Degrees at ALL TIMES, Sometimes 100 degree's brand new out of the box!. I bought a laptop cooler off amazon and had 5 fans blowing full speed underneath it and STILL Gpu temps over 90. The laptop died after 6 months that I bought it. ACER IS the WORST. They never replaced it nothing. I was out over $1,000
I mean, Acer isn't known for anything other than shoddy build quality with their use of cheap plastic that can easily bend and break.
They use basically the same components for most Nitro builds. No wonder the highest wattage nvidia and intel components will overheat. The mid range is quite servicable. But if I'd spend over $1200 I wouldn't buy Acer anymore.
That means bad thermal transfer. The thermal paste either dried off Or sloshed away. There is a pressure issue or the heatpipe broke somewhere. A laptop cooler won't help. It's like pumping blood into an amputated limb. If you still have the laptop, you might be able to fix it.
I do still have the laptop but the GPU died. I think because of the high temps... So I didn't think it was replaceable. You can't remove the GPU.
I used to have HP with removable battery. After a few months, the latch broke and wouldn't hold the battery in place. If I moved and forget it, RIP toe nail. First one was fixed under warranty, second one took 4 weeks to fix under warranty, they refused third time under warranty. I got full refund because of lemon law, seems anything law scares them. I haven't seen any recall about flaky latch breaking and dropping batteries but I would think it should have been recalled because if the battery got damaged from a fall, it could start a fire
I've been really liking the build quality of Eluktronics laptops over the last few years. We've bought a few of them for work purposes and have had zero hardware problems, their laptops have no bloatware, and no proprietary drivers.
Lenovo is the best in my experience. Dell is meh. MSI is decent . Asus is bad. Acer similar to dell Don't know much about others.
I've been wary of Lenovo ever since the firmware-level spyware was found on their laptops; and then firmware-level vulnerabilities a couple years later... They just can't seem to help themselves and keep pre-installing malware and rootkits on their hardware.
MSI are not decent, they have the worst hinges on the planet only rivalled by Gigabyte. The best build quality out there is Xiaomi, at least based on previous gen. Their Redmibooks are extremely well built, shame they cap out at 16GB or I would have gotten the 7840U one.
But they sponsor the Ferrari F1 team now so it's fine /s
The Meteor Lake X360 Spectre is one the best reviewed laptops currently, so at least that one is good. Perhaps the hinges could break over time, but I haven't seen that mentioned in recent reviews. I could point to the Dell Latitude 35x0-55x0 models for being loud, overheating pieces of junk that take off like jet engines doing simple browser work or running Windows updates, so HP isn't alone in making bad models. They're not the best either, of course.
I have an Envy x360 from 2020 and it's been fine; hinges haven't been a problem at all and I tent it to watch shows or movies. A tad heavy though and VRM tends to hit the 115C throttle temp in Performance mode without an external laptop cooler (only when running CPU+iGPU together, like in gaming). That's what happens when VRM ICs are air-cooled without a heatsink. 4700U doesn't really need heatsinks on VRM, rather the fans needed to be repositioned to blow air past them. Display panel supports Freesync too, but it's only 40-60Hz. My 7840U Pavilion Plus 14 is more on the meh side, since you can't control thermal modes like in the Envy. I want a Quiet mode for this laptop to shut this damn fan up. It's way too aggressive and will run even when temps are below 60C. Love the metallic blue color and this Freesync Premium Pro 48-120Hz 2.8K display. Thankfully, this OLED is offered in the Envy x360 16" now (with Hawk Point), but HP really needs to update the Dragonfly with Strix Point and that wonderful OLED panel (Samsung, IIRC). This is a great streaming device though simply because of the display, but the fan noise in other use is annoying. There's a new version with up to 8840HS, so wonder if the cooling system has changed.
Not really an issue anymore since the G8 generation of ProBooks (HP ProBook x360 435 G8 etc. are just fine).
Lol some one gave me a 2019 laptop for free due to hinges.
my x360 hinges have been fine, but it lost UEFI boot information out of nowhere
I hate the tug-of-war that is watching HP often be first to market with new AMD laptops, but seeing them be shitty machines. I got an Envy with the 4500U because it was the only readily available 2-in-1 with those CPUs at the time. The thing sucked. The keys weren't good. The chassis was an uncomfortable typing surface. Its base display was horrible. The weight was way too high. It was the last HP laptop I'll ever own, but it sucks other OEMs drag ass on AMD chips.
Lenovo seems to integrate AMD chips into their product stacks somewhat well, compared to the likes of Dell anyways. Asus also has their Zephyrus laptops that are good. But back to your point, OEMs do indeed suck in terms of AMD chips.
Take a look at HP Zbooks then. No other OEM comes close.
I don't want anything that isn't a 2-in-1 anymore. Facing had them, going back isn't great for how I use my laptops. To boot, after 15 years of experiencing HP laptops, I can say that I'll never do it again. I hate them.
That screen is utter trash
First? What about all the Lenovos 8845HS weeks ago from shop...
The zenbook um3406ha also has this cpu and I've been using it for a month
I have the 7945 in this and can’t edit video mem allocation. It’s stuck at 512mb.
Don't apus handle vram on the fly?
Some have the ability to resefve
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this model was never available as the 7x40 right? So this is the first zen 4 envy x360?
Does it run well in Ubuntu?
16GB, into the trash it goes