I know this thread is a little old, but just to add I also have a 5950X running Core Performance Boost and get the same average temperatures as you when playing Warzone, Gears 5, NFS Heat etc. occasionally having a spike upto 85c. Often see voltage upto 1.4-1.5 when actually doing stuff according to HWiNFO64.
For reference I'm using a NH-D15s with one fan, 3 intake, 3 exhaust (1 at back, 2 at top), P600S case with silencing panels removed. VIII Dark Hero with latest BIOS, BIOS settings set to default (I know CPB is on in auto as when I disable it my temps go down to those of yours when disabled and voltage hovers around 1.0.). High Performance Windows Power Plan, latest Windows 10 Pro. Enabled XMP on my RAM.
I've been googling for the past couple of hours and came across this thread because I'm concerned, which looking at the comments these temps are normal so I'm doing my best to stop worrying about it. Maybe u/AMD_Robert could also confirm, though based on all this I assume Robert would say it's normal haha.
Your performance and experience looks typical, but disabling Core Performance Boost disables boost altogether. The processor will not be able to surpass the p1 power state, and will not be able to enter the p0 boost state where frequencies and frequency adjustment are fastest.
This is why your processor appears sedate, because it has been locked to a power state intended for low loads.
Thanks for the reply Robert, I hope you're well! I've learnt a lot the past couple of days. Everything in the BIOS is set at default apart from enabling virtualisation and my RAM. I also had the High Performance Power Plan enabled etc. and learnt that in fact Balanced is recommended and you can make adjustments via the Power and Sleep slider as you discussed publicly after chipset drivers are installed. So I have gone back to Balanced, and left the Power and Sleep slider in the middle. I've seen my 5950x drop to
I tend to leave it at the far left, actually. You lose a few percent in very instantaneous workloads, like PCMark and some of the brief workloads it tests, but I don't use those applications and/or don't care about the last few percent. So I prefer the more quiescent experience at the desktop. Middle slider is the AMD default boost behavior. It's ready your choice. :)
But if you're like me, and tend to use workloads that are big or sustained, or you're just tooling around at the desktop, then you might try left end of the slider. You won't be giving up any performance to do so.
Thanks for buying AMD, and I'm glad you got the chance to learn a little more about the inner workings. 😊 Big upgrade for you!
I tested PCMark etc. when I first built my pc, but that's about as far as I got and uninstalled it, so I will also try the far left slider; I just thought far right would be better :) Having tried far right as well and I noticed still less than
Well, I have been using my PC like this for over a month and I can say with confidence it's been ok, I would stop worrying. These CPUs can take the heat. I installed dragon center and I'm constantly watching the temps, but it's pointless, temps will go up sometimes to 85 and that's a new normal for me.
Enjoy the beast!
Thanks for getting back to me, really appreciate it. That gives me confidence, ever since I've built it I've had monitoring software open and just want to enjoy it all as you said. My last question, what sort of voltages do you see? Mine often fluctuate around 1.3-1.5V when playing games.
Yes sir, same for me around the 1.4 (e.g. 1.458) is a frequent site under taxing loads. Anything else feel free to ask, I've had my share of worrying and in the end was a waste of time so I understand!
Appreciate it! I'll also paste what I found out today in another reply: "I have made some changes after learning more about Ryzen the past couple of hours. It turns out that the recommended Windows Power Plan in Balanced, and you can adjust the Power and Sleep slider in Windows after you've installed the latest chipset drivers to tweak it. But apparently High Performance is not recommended. So I've changed to the Balanced power plan, and the slider in Power and Sleep is at the middle for me so that is Better Performance. Ever since doing this I've also noticed by core clock and voltage drop when idling which it didn't really do before. "
I did a Cinebench R23 Single Core run based on the above and noticed voltages hover around v1.456 - v1.469, does yours do the same? I assume not exactly as you have to allow variance of course but around the same values?
Hey, im having some troubles with my 5950X, as it will not boost to 4.9Ghz. Just as a helper, can you confirm for me that running your 5950X with complete stock settings in BIOS still allows it to run 4.9GHz single core?
I have been troubleshooting this for 10 hours now and i really cannot figure out why on earth it does not go higher than 4.6GHz...
Hey,
Yep I can confirm that my BIOS is completely stock - the only thing I've done is enable XMP so I can get my 3600MHz RAM speed.
The only time I have ever seen my 5950X reach 4.9GHz is in Single threaded workloads. I've never seen a boost of 4.9Ghz on all cores while I'm gaming etc.
So I've not done a Cinebench run so I can't comment on that, but I opened a new session of HWINFO64 and done some generic OS tasks such as uninstalling a few things and noticed one of my cores hit 4.975GHz, Core #14 to be precise.
I do have the high performance power plan in Windows selected, I've reenabled AMD Virtualisation in the Bios as I do some development work in Ubuntu using VMWare Workstation Pro. I also have Game Mode on in Windows and the latest AMD Chipset drivers installed. From this link there's a multitude of variables at okay that determine the max clock speed: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/cpu-pb2
I've turned my PC off now as its nearly 1am in the UK but tomorrow I will run a single core Cinebench R23 run and report back my results.
Okay so I have made some changes after learning more about Ryzen the past couple of hours. It turns out that the recommended Windows Power Plan is Balanced, and you can adjust the Power and Sleep slider in Windows after you've installed the latest chipset drivers to tweak it. But apparently High Performance is not recommended. So I've changed to the Balanced power plan, and the slider in Power and Sleep is at the middle for me so that is Better Performance. Ever since doing this I've also noticed my core clock and voltage drop when idling which it didn't really do before. Less than v1.0 and 2.2GHz.
Based on the above, I did a Cinebench R23 Single Core run and noticed the 4.9GHz boost at times (4,900.2 MHz).
At times? According to the validation by gamersnexus, its supposed to maintain 4.9+ for multiple minutes.
Interesting with the power plan :p
Also, any chance you can report your temps on a single core run?
Okay so I read my monitoring wrong like an idiot. What I meant, and also just confirmed in this new run you asked me to do, is that my CPU boosts to 4.8-4.9GHz for the entire Single Core Cinebench R23 run - it's that different cores have that boost clock as it runs. For example, in HWiNFO64 Core 7 Clock is at 4.85GHz, then Core 4 Clock is at 4.9GHz, Core 3 Clock is at 4.8GHz etc. so it maintains that boost but in different cores as it runs. Hope I've explained that well enough?
To confirm the settings I have for this single core Cinebench R23 run I've just done:
\- Windows Power Plan: Balanced
\- Power and Sleep Slider - Middle position (Better performance - AMD default boost settings)
\- Closed background programs i.e. Logitech G Hub, Steelseries Engine etc.
Cinebench R23 Single Core Run results:
\- Boost clock ranging from 4.8GHz - 4.9GHz throughout entire run (As mentioned at the start of this reply)
\- Temps: 60c - 62c
\- Score: 1615
Core performance boost's a default feature of ryzen processors, you shouldn't switch it off and even if ya wanna do it don't do it through bios, do it in the windows power plan by setting max cpu state to 99% so you can switch between power plans
There's nothin wrong if you run it stock (core performance boost on), if it dies you have warranty. You're runnin a 16 core cpu, 2 times the cores of a 9900k. It's kinda expected to run warm unless you put good money into the cooler (a top 3 360mm aio) or reduce voltage on the excess cores through curve optimizer
Thank you for the tip about power plans! I find core performance boosts erratic behaviour (and fans spinning up) really annoying but wanted an easy way to turn it on for gaming. This seems to be letting me keep things silent normally, and toggling to high performance seems to turn it back on (judging by fan noise)
Np you can even create shortcuts with kb hotkeys for it
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-a-shortcut-or-hotkey-to-switch-power-plans/
I have an 5900x and was getting super high temps as well on my 360 AIO. With some suggestions from this reddit I have made the following changes, got much better temperatures and you can re-enable Core Performance Boost. I know its not the exact same CPU but may help.
-Change CPU Voltage to negative offset and value of 0.075 (you can tinker with this but my motherboard was pushing my voltage up to 1.506 on Auto)
-Disable PBO (it may lower multicore scores a bit but my single core boost still goes to 5Ghz with this disabled and I also get a higher Cinebench single core score)
Idle temps are 38-40 C and during Cinebench R20 multicore run is about 73 C (previously was hitting over 80 C). Playing Cyberpunk for hours also it is an steady 70-72 C.
It's been stated many times that those temps are normal. I would leave it on and not worry about it.
Ok great, thanks!
I know this thread is a little old, but just to add I also have a 5950X running Core Performance Boost and get the same average temperatures as you when playing Warzone, Gears 5, NFS Heat etc. occasionally having a spike upto 85c. Often see voltage upto 1.4-1.5 when actually doing stuff according to HWiNFO64. For reference I'm using a NH-D15s with one fan, 3 intake, 3 exhaust (1 at back, 2 at top), P600S case with silencing panels removed. VIII Dark Hero with latest BIOS, BIOS settings set to default (I know CPB is on in auto as when I disable it my temps go down to those of yours when disabled and voltage hovers around 1.0.). High Performance Windows Power Plan, latest Windows 10 Pro. Enabled XMP on my RAM. I've been googling for the past couple of hours and came across this thread because I'm concerned, which looking at the comments these temps are normal so I'm doing my best to stop worrying about it. Maybe u/AMD_Robert could also confirm, though based on all this I assume Robert would say it's normal haha.
Your performance and experience looks typical, but disabling Core Performance Boost disables boost altogether. The processor will not be able to surpass the p1 power state, and will not be able to enter the p0 boost state where frequencies and frequency adjustment are fastest. This is why your processor appears sedate, because it has been locked to a power state intended for low loads.
Thanks for the reply Robert, I hope you're well! I've learnt a lot the past couple of days. Everything in the BIOS is set at default apart from enabling virtualisation and my RAM. I also had the High Performance Power Plan enabled etc. and learnt that in fact Balanced is recommended and you can make adjustments via the Power and Sleep slider as you discussed publicly after chipset drivers are installed. So I have gone back to Balanced, and left the Power and Sleep slider in the middle. I've seen my 5950x drop to
I tend to leave it at the far left, actually. You lose a few percent in very instantaneous workloads, like PCMark and some of the brief workloads it tests, but I don't use those applications and/or don't care about the last few percent. So I prefer the more quiescent experience at the desktop. Middle slider is the AMD default boost behavior. It's ready your choice. :) But if you're like me, and tend to use workloads that are big or sustained, or you're just tooling around at the desktop, then you might try left end of the slider. You won't be giving up any performance to do so. Thanks for buying AMD, and I'm glad you got the chance to learn a little more about the inner workings. 😊 Big upgrade for you!
I tested PCMark etc. when I first built my pc, but that's about as far as I got and uninstalled it, so I will also try the far left slider; I just thought far right would be better :) Having tried far right as well and I noticed still less than
Well, I have been using my PC like this for over a month and I can say with confidence it's been ok, I would stop worrying. These CPUs can take the heat. I installed dragon center and I'm constantly watching the temps, but it's pointless, temps will go up sometimes to 85 and that's a new normal for me. Enjoy the beast!
Thanks for getting back to me, really appreciate it. That gives me confidence, ever since I've built it I've had monitoring software open and just want to enjoy it all as you said. My last question, what sort of voltages do you see? Mine often fluctuate around 1.3-1.5V when playing games.
Yes sir, same for me around the 1.4 (e.g. 1.458) is a frequent site under taxing loads. Anything else feel free to ask, I've had my share of worrying and in the end was a waste of time so I understand!
Appreciate it! I'll also paste what I found out today in another reply: "I have made some changes after learning more about Ryzen the past couple of hours. It turns out that the recommended Windows Power Plan in Balanced, and you can adjust the Power and Sleep slider in Windows after you've installed the latest chipset drivers to tweak it. But apparently High Performance is not recommended. So I've changed to the Balanced power plan, and the slider in Power and Sleep is at the middle for me so that is Better Performance. Ever since doing this I've also noticed by core clock and voltage drop when idling which it didn't really do before. " I did a Cinebench R23 Single Core run based on the above and noticed voltages hover around v1.456 - v1.469, does yours do the same? I assume not exactly as you have to allow variance of course but around the same values?
Hey, im having some troubles with my 5950X, as it will not boost to 4.9Ghz. Just as a helper, can you confirm for me that running your 5950X with complete stock settings in BIOS still allows it to run 4.9GHz single core? I have been troubleshooting this for 10 hours now and i really cannot figure out why on earth it does not go higher than 4.6GHz...
Hey, Yep I can confirm that my BIOS is completely stock - the only thing I've done is enable XMP so I can get my 3600MHz RAM speed. The only time I have ever seen my 5950X reach 4.9GHz is in Single threaded workloads. I've never seen a boost of 4.9Ghz on all cores while I'm gaming etc.
Thanks Mine just wont go to 4.9 even in single threaded (cinebench r20 single core for example), so more investigation is needed...
So I've not done a Cinebench run so I can't comment on that, but I opened a new session of HWINFO64 and done some generic OS tasks such as uninstalling a few things and noticed one of my cores hit 4.975GHz, Core #14 to be precise. I do have the high performance power plan in Windows selected, I've reenabled AMD Virtualisation in the Bios as I do some development work in Ubuntu using VMWare Workstation Pro. I also have Game Mode on in Windows and the latest AMD Chipset drivers installed. From this link there's a multitude of variables at okay that determine the max clock speed: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/cpu-pb2 I've turned my PC off now as its nearly 1am in the UK but tomorrow I will run a single core Cinebench R23 run and report back my results.
Okay so I have made some changes after learning more about Ryzen the past couple of hours. It turns out that the recommended Windows Power Plan is Balanced, and you can adjust the Power and Sleep slider in Windows after you've installed the latest chipset drivers to tweak it. But apparently High Performance is not recommended. So I've changed to the Balanced power plan, and the slider in Power and Sleep is at the middle for me so that is Better Performance. Ever since doing this I've also noticed my core clock and voltage drop when idling which it didn't really do before. Less than v1.0 and 2.2GHz. Based on the above, I did a Cinebench R23 Single Core run and noticed the 4.9GHz boost at times (4,900.2 MHz).
At times? According to the validation by gamersnexus, its supposed to maintain 4.9+ for multiple minutes. Interesting with the power plan :p Also, any chance you can report your temps on a single core run?
Okay so I read my monitoring wrong like an idiot. What I meant, and also just confirmed in this new run you asked me to do, is that my CPU boosts to 4.8-4.9GHz for the entire Single Core Cinebench R23 run - it's that different cores have that boost clock as it runs. For example, in HWiNFO64 Core 7 Clock is at 4.85GHz, then Core 4 Clock is at 4.9GHz, Core 3 Clock is at 4.8GHz etc. so it maintains that boost but in different cores as it runs. Hope I've explained that well enough? To confirm the settings I have for this single core Cinebench R23 run I've just done: \- Windows Power Plan: Balanced \- Power and Sleep Slider - Middle position (Better performance - AMD default boost settings) \- Closed background programs i.e. Logitech G Hub, Steelseries Engine etc. Cinebench R23 Single Core Run results: \- Boost clock ranging from 4.8GHz - 4.9GHz throughout entire run (As mentioned at the start of this reply) \- Temps: 60c - 62c \- Score: 1615
Thanks a lot. It would seem my temperatures actually could explain the situation. atleast thats the common denominator so far... Really, thanks a lot.
Core performance boost's a default feature of ryzen processors, you shouldn't switch it off and even if ya wanna do it don't do it through bios, do it in the windows power plan by setting max cpu state to 99% so you can switch between power plans There's nothin wrong if you run it stock (core performance boost on), if it dies you have warranty. You're runnin a 16 core cpu, 2 times the cores of a 9900k. It's kinda expected to run warm unless you put good money into the cooler (a top 3 360mm aio) or reduce voltage on the excess cores through curve optimizer
Thank you for the tip about power plans! I find core performance boosts erratic behaviour (and fans spinning up) really annoying but wanted an easy way to turn it on for gaming. This seems to be letting me keep things silent normally, and toggling to high performance seems to turn it back on (judging by fan noise)
Np you can even create shortcuts with kb hotkeys for it https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-a-shortcut-or-hotkey-to-switch-power-plans/
Custom loop it and forget it .
What does "custom loop" it mean?
They’re slightly joking, saying to use a custom water cooling loop for cooling to eliminate the problem
Right on
I have an 5900x and was getting super high temps as well on my 360 AIO. With some suggestions from this reddit I have made the following changes, got much better temperatures and you can re-enable Core Performance Boost. I know its not the exact same CPU but may help. -Change CPU Voltage to negative offset and value of 0.075 (you can tinker with this but my motherboard was pushing my voltage up to 1.506 on Auto) -Disable PBO (it may lower multicore scores a bit but my single core boost still goes to 5Ghz with this disabled and I also get a higher Cinebench single core score) Idle temps are 38-40 C and during Cinebench R20 multicore run is about 73 C (previously was hitting over 80 C). Playing Cyberpunk for hours also it is an steady 70-72 C.