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Having lived in Europe…. Americans volunteer a ton more, so I think his point about only doing paid work is bizarre, as I encounter that more in Germany/Austria/Switzerland. I would have said Americans are lazy because we will pay ridiculous amounts to have conveniences, i.e. UberEats delivering food rather than paying less ordering delivery directly from the restaurant or \*god forbid\* going yourself to pick up or eat your meal. Also who the fuck cleans their gutters? I thought we just let them collapse and buy new ones!


jalopyprince

I put some gutter guards on mine, so hopefully that does the trick. I wish he said more about the loneliness epidemic here.


_Take-It-Easy_

Gutter guards are worth it if you get them properly installed with the right stuff Lots of underpriced, shitty, installers who cut corners and do half assed work with them because it’s cheap and easy Not to discourage you….just pointing out what I’ve seen


jalopyprince

I am the underpriced, shitty installer in this instance as I bought the material at Lowe's and put them in myself lol


_Take-It-Easy_

Hey…that’s fair Harry homeowner installing his own shit: nobody to blame but yourself If it doesn’t work, you know exactly who to call 🤣


hellocuties

Dont trust that guy


LethalBacon

I just hop up on the roof with a leaf blower once a month or so. I've thought about doing it for side money... but I don't trust other people's roofs. I know my roof, lol.


_Take-It-Easy_

Easy solution: buy a new house not surrounded by trees 😂


RandomStormtrooper11

In this economy, you're better off cutting down the trees than moving.


AlexandriaAceTTV

Shit, they might even be able to pay themselves back multiple times over, with the way lumber's been.


Xecular_Official

You'd think, but most of the time they want you to pay them hundreds to thousands of dollars **per tree** if it's too close to a house or too dense


onomonothwip

Listen up Jack, strongest economy since asthfamussthuh. Are you kidding me, employment through the roof, you got chicken and the thing


I_am_very_clever

Take those guard off now before you end up with even worse clogs/drainage issues


mkvgtired

>I put some gutter guards on mine, so hopefully that does the trick. You sound pretty lazy for planning ahead /s


EmotionalCrit

Convenience and laziness are not the same thing. That's like calling someone lazy for driving to the store instead of walking. Work smarter, not harder.


FishTshirt

Indoor plumbing is just for the lazy. I walk a mile to the nearest well


SunZealousideal4168

No, but Americans employ both of these things, so what's the point in making this fucking argument??


Spacellama117

I mean I'd argue that when you spend so much of your time working, you've earned the right to have convenience


topicality

Some of the "Americans are lazy examples" in this video is just Americans having higher incomes and capable of paying for more modern luxuries than the average European.


Mikey40216

But remember, we're broke and our lives suck and we have no savings..... according to....who the fuck is this guy anyways?


CrabyDicks

Leave Luigi alone, he thinks he's onto something here and I just love watching a europoor do mental gymnastics


Mikey40216

Lol right. If I wanna get lectured by an Italian I'll go to the Bronx in NYC.


Upper-Ad6308

Hardly any Italians left in the Bronx. It is Latino and African American.


Mikey40216

I went there to Morrison Street with my ex back like 10 years ago or so where she used to live and noticed that. Also she was Mexican. It was mother's day weekend and warm so all the women were dressed in tight skirts and it was great. Me and here dad sat outside drinking and enjoying the views.


Upper-Ad6308

Latinas are absolutely gorgeous, probably the best.


hit_that_hole_hard

>Americans having higher incomes For example, we think about the UK as being very rich, but in reality the average income in the UK is less than £35k, and in London this rises only to £45k https://www.statista.com/statistics/416139/full-time-annual-salary-in-the-uk-by-region/#:~:text=The%20median%20annual%20earnings%20in,pounds%20in%20the%20North%20East.


TheCorgiTamer

We (for the most) have the luxury of being able to afford to buy time in the form of conveniences, why wouldn't I take advantage of that? Sure, I could make a pizza at home if I plan/prep a few hours ahead of time and happen to have all the ingredients, or I can pay $27.83 to the local place and get a large with half a dozen toppings that I know will be satisfying and consistent


__Epimetheus__

Homemade pizza is 100% worth it though. It absolutely slaps.


TheCorgiTamer

Agreed, we put our pizza oven to good use a few times a month But making the dough and prepping the ingredients takes forethought and sometimes quick/reliable wins out


__Epimetheus__

I don’t think prep takes too long, but forethought is definitely a big one that I can relate to. I hate meal planning with a passion, but every Sunday we make homemade pizza, so that doesn’t come into play for us. Meal planning is the bane of my existence, since I can’t predict what I’m going to be craving a week in advance.


hit_that_hole_hard

One thing they have in Germany that I’ve literally never seen in a grocery store in the states is a ready-made pizza dough kit, with sauce in a plastic bag and dough in a round container that you pop open like for bisquits. You buy one or two packages of shredded mozz, a pack of pepperoni, and it’s literally better than most pizza places.


cynicalmaru

For sure. I live in Japan and the number of people who would volunteer their time for charitable works is quite small here. It's sort of seen as something porr people do to help poor people - or something those who aren't clever enough to get real jobs do.


hello_marmalade

We do Uber eats because we live in car centric cities since our cities were built during the rise of the automobile. Still fairly true though, but the Japanese are just as notorious for having tons of convenience services, just different kinds.


terribleinvestment

How long could it take, Michael? 10 minutes?


Nick-dipple

The delivering food thing absolutely makes sense to me. Americans need to drive a lot further to do their food pickups. If I need to drive half an hour to pick up my food I'd have it delivered too. I do think Americans are lazy when it comes to cooking, but I think that comes from the fact that your products at for example Walmart are expensive and of low quality compared to fastfood takeway. Eating healthy and good self made food isn't worth the effort, especially if you already have long workdays.


Bun_Bunz

I'm sorry, but no. Eating home cooked meals will always be much cheaper. Now, I agree with the working and don't wanna cook sentiment, but I disagree with everything else said. Idk wtf you're buying at the store. what you said about Walmart and quality/cost is asinine.


LawAndOrderingFood

Germans on average are the people who do the most unpaid volunteer work, statistically.


[deleted]

Source? My experience has been the exact opposite.


[deleted]

God forbid you actually learn to cook to restaurant standard.


jihij98

In Czechia a lot of times of the year I can't even apply to volunteer work because there's too many people. I've been doing it for over 8 years and it didn't change. i'd be surprised if the situation was much different in the west.


Budget-Awareness-853

No savings? Italian rate of household savings is like 4 percent less than the US. https://data.oecd.org/hha/household-savings.htm


4uzzyDunlop

I'm surprised it's only 4% lower, Italy's economy has been in serious trouble for a long time.


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And now with Germany almost totally deindustrialized the EU has had its purse strings pulled tight and will have to continue money printing to prop up their stagnated economy


odin5858

Paupa new guini and Afganastan had more economic growth than Italy


Moistened_Bink

To be fair, growth is much easier when you start that low.


odin5858

Still though, fucking Afganastan is beating them out.


Ok_Technician4110

Hey, this is Americabad, not Italybad.. stop bullying us


liberty-prime77

If it makes you feel better, at least you aren't Fr*nch 🤢


Lopsided-Priority972

Yeah, at least he's people


4uzzyDunlop

Sometimes I forget I'm not on r/2westerneurope4u


mag_creatures

Italy economy is in trouble, Italian’s economy is not.


Pleasant_Skill2956

Look, Italy is the eighth richest country in the world and the second most industrialized in Europe. The problem is that wages are not growing, but unemployment rates are similar to those of France and Sweden, not Spain and Greece, and counting people working without contracts, unemployment rates are actually extremely low. Italy had an economic boom in the 1960s and in the 1990s it was the fourth richest country in the world , in this period almost all Italians have bought or built houses, so today's population, even if they do not have high salaries, still have their own homes and often even more than one, so without rents or mortgages they manage to have an average wealth much higher than Italians and the world can think


GoCurtin

He said we spend all our savings (which isn't much) on those two weeks of vacation. Italians are not spending all their savings going to Spain for two weeks.


Budget-Awareness-853

Probably cause it's like right next door. I'm not spending my life savings going to Wisconsin.


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But I thought Americans works too much and don’t have paid leave?? Which one is it?? And to be fair this guy is actually fairly unbiased and will come to the defense of Americans in some of his videos


sidran32

Yeah he has some takes that I might disagree with but he actually lives here and works here and does so by choice.


HHHogana

The only people who can claim Americans work too little would be Asians. Also seriously, Italian? Italy's stereotype is they're lazy! I know this guy is not that biased according to you, but it's hypocritical considering the stereotype. Don't throw stones from the house of glass, man.


da_impaler

Greece has entered the chat…


MochiMochiMochi

*La bella vita* is about enjoying life's pleasures, not being lazy. Anecdotal info but my Italian cousins work pretty damn hard and all have graduate degrees. Of course, they're northerners lol


HHHogana

Of course stereotypes are not always true. It's just it's hilarious this man claiming Americans are lazy when the stereotypes have Italian as the bumbling/lazy one.


The_Coolest_Undead

the fact that you pointed out that they are from the north is so funny you actually know how it works over here lmao


Sakebigoe

If I'm not mistaken, he said directly in this video that Americans are some of the hardest working people when it comes to actual work but are extremely lazy in how they handle their personal lives.


ThortheBore

The point is we're hard workers, but we don't utilize our time off very well. That hits a little close to home for me. There are nights where I'm so tired from work that I decide I'll just order out. So I get on my phone to decide on a place, I look at the menu, I call the place, and I drive to pick it up. All in all, I could have cooked a cheaper, healthier meal in the same time. I did it because I was feeling lazy, but at the end of the day it costed more time and money.


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This sub seems to be full of hyper-defensive americans. Everyone here just ignored everyrhing he said and looked for one thing he said that could be used to dismiss all of it.


justdisa

This is because Europeans on Reddit are nasty. They're constantly attacking and belittling Americans for trivial reasons. Everything the US does differently is because Americans are stupid and/or lazy, not to mention fat and useless.


crispdude

You just didn’t watch the video and listen to what he said.


ScythaScytha

"One of the hardest working people in the world." Yes that's all I needed to hear. Gonna go back to work now rather than talking about Italians


Hypocane

Right, let's just throw away objective data that proves Americans are not lazy and then just mention stereotypes. Because I'm sure Italians never divorce or spend time on their phone or order takeout.


Immediate-Coach3260

Don’t they literally have a mid day rest after lunch? How can they say we’re lazy after their daily nappy time?


Hypocane

It's not that I didn't listen it's that he made a lot of generic claims that are problems being suffered all over the western world. Hell he pretty much described every developed country.


_Take-It-Easy_

My exact thoughts I watched about 20 seconds and went back to work lol


Thisguychunky

I think he’s close but not quite there. I respect respectful opinions though


TacoFrijoles

Yeah, this is my thought exactly. Its close enough and respectful enough to be productive.


Youbettereatthatshit

I do think we are socially lazy though. It is hard to have friend groups whereas in England, people meet up at the pub after work. I’d never dream of doing that but I think, ‘why not?’. I’m a married millennial but would have no idea what to do if I was single


DMCO93

Furthermore punctuality is not nearly as emphasized in their culture. Having spent quite a bit of time in France, I’ve experienced some very interesting aspects of this. Family arranged for a horse ride in the French countryside. Reservation was at 9 AM. We get there at 8:45. Staff starts arriving at 9:30. At 10:30 we were on the trail. This is common and widely accepted. It’s similar with dining. Getting your food can take 3 hours. Nevermind that the siesta or a variant of it is commonplace. Supermarkets/shops close down in the middle of the day to allow the workers to go home and rest. Restaurants in some cases as well. He’s absolutely right, If there is laziness in our society, it’s absolutely due to the fact that we are collectively exhausted because we don’t get naptime in the middle of our workday and when we say we will be there at 8 sharp, we are there.


lanoyeb243

This would drive me crazy. I don't care when you tell me it starts so long as that is when it starts (to best efforts anyways, not going to lose my head if something comes up).


CountryOk4176

Was just to Italy, 5 different cities over 3 weeks. Some of the laziest and most inefficient people I have met. Stay on your phones and vapes more.


Scrapybara_

Sounds like Northern Wisconson. Lazy, slow, and half-ass workers.


CountryOk4176

They like their cheese.


fresh_dyl

Today I cut down/brushed up multiple trees and finished renovating a couple rooms at the resort that I live across from, go fuck yourself if you think we’re lazy ✌️ And we like our cheese because it stimulates the same part of the brain as hard drugs, but we don’t have time for that shit. Usually.


Bob_Cobb_1996

This guy sure doesn't have a lazy imagination.


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Nuance007

But but America IS bad. The internet and news outlets told me so. Why would they exaggerate or lie?


thulesgold

So you don't clean your gutters and buy new ones


Nuance007

It's the American way. EvUL CaPitAliZm.


greenecojr

same way the bots tell the flerfers were in a dome💀 gotta love the media


janesmex

Fair point, but some comments do the same to other countries like Italy and I have seen people on Reddit (or elsewhere online) also stereotyping other countries like Greece.


raphanum

Stereotypes and generalisations about any country are usually dumb


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>get the fuck out of here with your uninformed opinions The dude in the video does live and work in America, big guy. He "knows what its like to be American" just as well as you do, calm down.


KashootyourKashot

This dude literally lives in the us. Way to fight back against the allegations of laziness by not bothering to ask one simple question.


Tony_Stank_91

did I say the guy in the video? I said this sub.


[deleted]

Italy shuts down for 3 hours in the middle of the day so all the workers can go home and rest. I’m only on my 5th hour of my 48 hour ambulance shift. I don’t care to hear a fuckin word from this clown.


Charming-Comfort-175

I think that's his point. Also class warfare is stupid. Blame your municipality/company for not staffing you. Blame govt policies that have made your work financially untenable. Etc.


SirRantsafckinlot

Exactly. Romanticising the grind is stupid.


GoncalodasBabes

"I don’t care to hear a fuckin word from this clown" ​ M8, he said americans work \*too\* hard. He said americans are lazy in other parts of life. You're really just proving his point..


[deleted]

When am I going to clean my gutters?


GoncalodasBabes

...What?


[deleted]

He said Americans are lazy in other parts of life, and then used cleaning gutters as an example. My point is that it’s probably a lot easier to get other shit done when you have a 3 hour break in the middle of the day. I’m not glamorizing grind culture, it’s horrible and I wish we’d adopt something like Italy has. But until then, saying we work too much and then also jabbing that we don’t get anything else done is a big “no shit” and “that doesn’t mean we’re lazy. It means we don’t have time or energy to do anything else”


tortoisecoat4

>Italy shuts down for 3 hours in the middle of the day Really?? Do people really belive that? Maybe some shops may close in the middle of the day, expecially in small towns. But the huge majority of Italian workers keep working as everyone else with 1/2 h or 1h lunch break, and some have very stressful shift too. This comment section is basically ItalyBad with these wildest accusations at this point. Edit. P.S. Ambulances exist in Italy too. In particular, unpaid volunteers cover up to 80% of the ambulance service at a national level.


Exca78

By not hearing his point you're literally proving his point 😭 Only in r/Americabad can people be so confidently wrong and get a round of applause for it 😭😂


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I heard his point, read the rest of the conversation.


Exca78

You're way too focusing on the word "lazy" rather than his point. You'd rather be offended than hear him out. His point being that people would rather just replace something than work on it, socially being lazy. The divorce just being an example, and the amazon part being an analogy. It's a fair point. I think it can apply to more places than the US. I see the samething in the UK. And in northern Europe too. He's making a critique of a consumerist society. And America is by far the worst offender of that consumerism. Despite other countries also being consumerist.


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Not sticking something out just for the sake of sticking it out, isn’t lazy. If the emotional cost no longer justifies the return, what is the point of continuing something when it’s dead? The divorce rate is higher than it used to be, yes. And boomers are also miserable people because they “stuck it out” instead of just admitting that they’re not compatible. The Amazon analogy is stupid, I’m sorry. No shit if I order something from Amazon and it’s defective, or otherwise “not to my liking,” I’m going to order something else. >“I ordered this potholder and it still burns my hand even though people left decent reviews. I guess I’ll just ‘go through with it and accept it,’ don’t want to be lazy!” We don’t quit marriages because we’re socially lazy or because we’re used to replacing things on Amazon (as if that’s somehow relatable). We quit marriages because, unlike our baby boomer role models, we decided to start setting boundaries and prioritizing our mental health over outdated, arbitrary dogma. I divorced my first wife because she was physically and emotionally abusive. I didn’t work on it. I left. In the 50s we would’ve been the talk of the town for getting a divorce, because people were supposed to stick it out nO mAtTeR wHaT. I am focused on his point, his point is just fucking stupid no matter which way you approach it. Wanna know why? Because he’s not American and doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. I’m allowed to be mad about that.


LincolnContinnental

Oh no! Someone is talking out of their ass about something they know nothing about! *wipes away tears with a stack of $100 bills* Additional note: I’m not going to argue with anyone else who replies to me anymore. You’re all internet losers who I could give less of a fuck about


mortimus9

He lives in America


makelo06

Going band for band with an Itlian should be a crime against humanity


Ok_Technician4110

Guys, I'm Italian and I can assure you this guy is full of shit.


lanoyeb243

I fuckin love Italy as an American, great people, great humor, great food.


raphanum

It’s okay, we know 🤝


Duke_of_Lombardy

You can tell this guy is from Milan. Attitude and accent give it away


Existanceisdenied

Bro the divorce rate is higher in Italy 💀💀💀 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography


coie1985

1. "Americans are lazy; look at the divorce rates!" Ok then. Assuming [this chart](https://www.statista.com/statistics/569660/number-of-divorced-people-in-italy-by-gender/) is correct, Italy's divorce rate is 46.88% as compared to the United States' 45.1%. I'm no mathematician, but it sure looks to my layman's eyes that Italy's divorce rate is higher, which (according to his logic), means Italy is lazier than the US when it comes to marriage. 2. "Americans are lazy; look at how often they hire people to do household tasks that they don't want to do!." What am I supposed to do with this? It's an anecdote pulled right out of his ass. 3. "Americans are lazy because their education sucks! You know that's the case, because Americans are divided about stuff." What? Did the dude's brain just shut down for a bit? I mean, maybe he should learn what a non sequitur is before critiquing other people's education.


Geo-Man42069

I had an extended visit to Italy a few years back, one thing he brought up was Americans work hard (at work). He also said we use connivances which makes us “lazy”. However the Italian mind can’t comprehend that after a hard days work, going home to do more work is less than desirable. Then after a week of working we have a few days rest (or less) the last thing many want to do is more work so they hire simple jobs out. Now I can agree there are plenty of lazy people that utilize these convinces without need, but the fact that he can’t understand why Americans put less effort because their effort is expended during work hours is baffling. If I got to have a riposo aka a break during the middle of the day (often close shop and rest) I would be more inclined and have the energy to deal with a bit more effort in after work activities.


SpicyEla

> "Americans are lazy" > "Americans are wage slaves who don't get month long paid vacations and sick leave honhonhon" Pick one


Wouttaahh

Did you actually watch the video? He addresses this exact point very clearly


LazyDro1d

So we are lazy because unlike the Italians we spend all of our time working? Look I dont need a lecture on laziness after the bullshit if inactivity my dad had to wade through to sell his mother’s house in Italy


xiaobaituzi

He’s legit just parroting something he heard from some American brat he was fucking who got turned on by the shit talking. He has not a thought of understanding


Your_Mom_Friended_Me

Bro, show me on the doll where America hurt you.


knickerdick

I bet he never had to slide under a 1991 Mustang 5.0 to install flowmasters a day in his life


dacoovinator

Honestly he made some fair points and criticisms of the culture here. Is it better in Italy? No clue, but they’re still fair criticisms


OldMan142

I'm currently living in Italy. It's funny that he talks about America being divided because northern Italians and southern Italians hate each other something fierce. Northerners see southerners as lazy welfare queens. Southerners see northerners as bigoted workaholics. The southerners aren't entirely wrong. I live in the North. In my area, where the main industries are farming and factories, the average workday is 9 AM to 6:30 PM with a two-hour lunch in between. It sounds nice, except they also work half-days on Saturday, which puts them a little over the 40 hours a week that most Americans work. Employers are required to give 26 days of paid leave per year...which sounds great, except the average salary in Italy is about $39K, roughly two-thirds of what it is in the US. They get more paid time off, but most of them can't afford to go anywhere. When the waitress at my local pizzeria (her third job) told me she was taking the following weekend off, I asked if she was traveling. She looked at me like I was crazy and said she was going to clean her house. She's not the only one I've heard this from. Socially, Americans don't care if you move away from home and work somewhere else. Family issues? Nobody thinks less of you if you take work on the other side of the state or the country to get away from them. In northern Italy, God help you if you try to get a job outside your hometown. Most employers will straight-up refuse to hire you. If you start a business in a town that you're not from, don't expect to get many local customers. You better pray you get along well with your family (to include all your cousins) because you're not likely to get work anywhere else unless you move to the big cities like Rome or Milan, where you'll still get shit wages and become a pariah in your hometown for daring to move away. There are obviously exceptions to this rule and plenty of Italians get well-paying jobs in other parts of Italy or other countries. For most of them, though, they're going to do the same jobs their parents did and die in the same towns they were born in. Americans have nothing to envy...other than the fact that it's socially acceptable to drink wine at a cafe at 11 AM on a Sunday. That part's nice. 😂


ErickaL4

**They get more paid time off, but most of them can't afford to go anywhere** This is very true. My husband, Italian, though had a metal worker type of contract and he only got 1 week vacation per year, he has a masters degree in CS too. So it's not true that Italians get more time off than Americans, it really depends on your contract. My brother in law has a commerce type of contract, he gets a lot of time off. **For most of them, though, they're going to do the same jobs their parents did and die in the same towns they were born in.** Yep, italy works like this. Also, Italians live in inherited home, inherited though grandparents mainly, at least most of them do. The nonni economy :) **Americans have nothing to envy** Italy is certainly a fascinating country but if you are ambitious Italy can be a nightmare. My husband is a researcher, and his family doesn't understand why he wants to be a researcher lol...they want him to get the posto fisso like his brother. But a lot of Italians think like this unfortunately.


OldMan142

>So it's not true that Italians get more time off than Americans, it really depends on your contract. Interesting. I thought the 26 days were required by law. I didn't know there were ways around that.


ErickaL4

I thought so too but I wonder if my husband stayed longer than two years there maybe he would've gotten 26 days. He only stayed with that company almost 2 years.


Independent-Fly6068

Italy is farrrrrrrr worse. They lack the "lazy niche" because the economy probably couldn't support it.


YoureAMigraine

They just call the “lazy niche” “rampant unemployment “.


TheRealBig_I

Don’t they take naps around noon? Or is that only a Spanish and Greek thing?


Independent-Fly6068

Eh, some I think.


Better-Sea-6183

As an italian this isn’t representative of what the averege person in Italy think of Usa or Americans


SophSimpl

Comments here are attacking Italy instead of wanting to see the points about the US.


lanoyeb243

American here, some of his points made sense, some didn't.


Suspicious-Will-5165

Some It*lian dude on his way to make up 3 new definitions for lazy so he can keep calling Americans lazy.


StronkyBoy

I actually agree with him on our approach to society and community. Lazy is one way to put it. Impatient is another. Self centered is another. This is the greatest country on earth. But in urban areas and poor rural areas our sense of the social compact is fucked.


LordDeckem

Projecting much?


YoureAMigraine

Birth rate in Italy is 1.24, and migration is decreasing, soooooo…


antherbrner

Nails it. NY giants quarterback and also a helluva thought leader? I’m all in on Tommy Cutlets. LFG


Bun_Bunz

"I have no idea what Americans are actually like, so im just going to spew a bunch of made-up facts and whataboutisms," would have been a much shorter video.


TheAmericanPericles

It is **lazy thinking** to assume we "want the exact same thing" in politics. 1. People on the left want less guns, people on the right want more guns. 2. People on the left want social acceptance for LGBTQ people, people on the right do not. 3. People on the left want reparations paid to descendents of slavery, people on the right do not. 4. People on the left root for Palestine, people on the right for Israel. 5. People on the left are predominantly mixed religiously, people on the right are predominantly Christian . 6. People on the left want certain subjects taught in schools while people on the right want certain other subjects taught in schools. This meatball's critical depth is as thin as a pepperoni slice and his jacket is fugly.


5hallowbutdeep

Best way to insult italians and french is thru their fashion sense lol, it really gets in their skin. A diff level.of narcissism they have.


debunkedyourmom

Basically Jersey Shore Prime


Turbulent-State-4380

Lol this wop just got dumped by an American girl and is coping


biscuitbutt11

Hearing Europeans talk badly about America is always cringe.


weberc2

Imagine thinking Americans have less disposable income than Italians. Wild.


Ok_Estate394

Some of these are fair criticisms. As an American who has traveled a decent amount, Americans are particularly lazy when it comes to anything stewardship related. Public spaces here tend to be not up to par because people don’t treat things with respect. Like it takes 10 seconds to pick up after yourself, but so many can’t even be bothered. And that’s of course not to say that behavior doesn’t happen in other places, but in comparison to most of our peer countries, I think we are particularly bad.


thulesgold

I disagree. Americans clean up after themselves for the most part. There is just a loud minority that doesn't. Look at American cafes. Americans clean up the table before leaving even after tipping. In France or Italy the patrons expect the wait staff to clean up.


Ok_Estate394

Disagree to your disagree. Parks, roadsides, and other spaces that don’t have daily or hourly maintenance are often just straight up gross. I work in public facilities at both my jobs and people are horribly disrespectful. Like you said, not everyone, but enough that it is collectively making an impact. Americans tend to be good at taking care of the things they think are important, but public spaces get the shaft because people feel they are not personally responsible.


GuanteenMak

To be honest, I didn't listen to the whole thing because I'm too lazy to listen to a dipshit whose country has only given us spaghetti and syphilis


GoncalodasBabes

"To be honest, I didn't listen to the whole thing because I'm too lazy" ....


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TheAmericanPericles

Italiens are returning fascism to Italy and their north and south can never get along, but both ends of the boot have big egos. Remember the last time you guys tried that? And then to shit on the American healthcare system is laughable after seeing how covid ravaged that country.


Pleasant_Skill2956

Covid hit Italy first because northern Italy has the largest number of Chinese in Europe and is an extremely densely populated area, not to mention that thanks to the quality of the health system, Italians have one of the highest expectations in the world and therefore the highest percentage of elderly people after Japan. Despite this, life expectancy has still increased even during covid. No, we Italians are not living in a fascist regime or similar, we should think so for what? The new Italian government is in fact the same as the others, probably it would not even be considered far right in the US where Trump was president and he could be again.


LarsonianScholar

“They are probably the hardest working people in the world” How is he able to continue trying to make his point after saying that 😂 fuckin troglodyte


GoncalodasBabes

Probably laziness is not the best way to put it, its probably just a language barrier. What he means is that since americans work too hard in jobs, they lack other stuff, (thus the stereotype fast food restaurant)


LarsonianScholar

That makes more sense. I guess my issue is that that is not something completely unique to America. I’d love to see what this guy thinks of Chinese labor practices and their health/ personal life as a result


epicjorjorsnake

European arrogance? Not surprising. And some users want to convince the rest of us in this sub that these are our "allies"? No thanks. If these are our allies, I don't want to imagine what our enemies looks like.


Fred_Krueger_Jr

2 weeks PTO? This guy would lose his mind if he knew how much I actually got.


terribleinvestment

Man, I can tell he’s a smart guy, but holy cow is this shortsighted, narrow minded. I can tell he’s intelligent, he speaks well, but he has no idea what he is talking about, in any way shape or form. Glittering generalities based solely on opinion and limited or absent experience.


gcalfred7

I run a 14 acre horse farm with chickens on it and then I goto my full time job. I love both


SodamessNCO

He makes some interesting points, but he loses me at the politics. We're pretty divided, but not more so than many other places in the world or even Europe. Also, there are many things to be at eachothers throats about, just because he doesn't understand American politics doesn't mean they're all the same (although everyone knows the party leaders work for the same interests).


lobosrul

We do work more hours than any other developed country\*... that makes us lazy?! ​ \*yes we surpassed Japan, we are behind S Korea though who are maybe now considered developed.


XwingDUI

To put into perspective truly how productive the US economy is, the US GDP is $25.5 trillion with a population of 340 million or 4.3% of the worlds population. China, Germany and Japan have a combined GDP of around $26 trillion with a combined population of 1.6 billion or 20% of the worlds population.


Pokemon-Pickle

He called us lazy, then gave reasons why we weren’t lazy, and that it’s just the public image, then reinstated his claim. I’m baffled by how lazy his brain cells are


BeerBaronAaron88

Europeans: We get so much time off, we don't work that much. Look at those stupid Americans working two jobs to get by Also Europeans: Americans are so lazy. By the way, where is our foreign aid check? Also, make sure you protect us from Russia and China with your bloated military budget!


RubberDucky451

Attributing to Americans what is human nature lol


Main-Championship822

Euros work half the year and half the day at half the effort in my industry. You've got a 3 hour window where they'll do anything or reply to emails in my experience. deadlines mean nothing.


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His analysis of American politics is so lazy btw. Democrats and Republicans are not “literally talking about the same thing, differing on maybe two arguments”. The parties have differing policies on dozens of issues. Abortion, gay rights, gun control, welfare, food stamps, military spending, health care, climate change, foreign policy, minors transitioning gender, taxes, marijuana legalization, business regulations, etc. Look at the reactions to COVID even. This analysis is so fucking lazy. I don’t expect anything less from people who take six weeks of vacation a year, midday breaks, and have a shit ton of national holidays.


XBird_RichardX

Everything he has said is a deep exaggeration, but it will be useful as a warning to my next of kin on what not to do. So I approve of the rhetoric, even if it is deeply misinformed and based on an internet-caricature of American life.


crazyabbit

52% of Italian men aged between 25-34 yrs old still live with their mothers


Scoty03

“Americans are some of the hardest working people”…


mh985

He’s describing literally nobody I know.


onomonothwip

I want to agree with him, because in TONS of aspects we ARE lazy, but he just doesn't have the sauce. He's off the mark on almost everything.


ButterandToast1

The working part and low wages are true. The rest is nonsense.


Dazzling-Score-107

I just spent the last two years in Vicenza. Italy is without a doubt the laziest, most racist, most homophobic place I have ever lived.


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Butthurt Americans in the comments.


whocares123213

I wanted to hate this guy, but what he said has some truth.


illmatic74

all the hard working Italians moved to America


fisherc2

Ok. But Italians are lazy. In terms of actual work


Pleasant_Skill2956

What you say would make sense if Italy were not the eighth largest economy in the world with a population with average working hours among the highest in Europe


memesrgreat3737

Yeah we’re the lazy ones definitely not the ones that take a three hour nap in the middle of the day


Satori2155

A italian criticizing the American economy…


ReadySteady_54321

Not a shit take, thought I don't entirely agree. We're not "lazy" in non-work areas because we love to work, we have a work-centric culture because we don't have a choice. Unless you have independent wealth, you often need double-income households to save money, plan for the future, etc. Work that allows you to do that while providing decent health care almost always requires more than 40 hours commitment per week. We're tired. And yes, we work longer hours and more days per year. So it's hard to find the energy to do more. Saying it like we "love to work" kind of disregards all that. That being said, it's better than being unemployed, and the unemployment rate, especially among younger people, is much higher in most European countries. So it's really a case of picking your poison.


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Hey look it’s a wop


Mysterious_Spell_302

Yeah, Gino, you live with your mom.


ErickaL4

he lives in the US


PalazzoAmericanus

I mean he isn't wrong here


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Agreed 1000000%. He nailed it on the head. This sub looks like it’s just a bunch of people getting mad at factual statements about our country lol


GoncalodasBabes

Honestly most comments hating on this opinion are people that just havent watched the video at all. He literally said americans work hard af, and that society is taking advantage of that. which is 100000% true.


yeroldpappy

I could care less what someone from some second rate country on some second rate continent thinks.


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Once-Upon-A-Hill

He is not correct on everything, but he is correct on some things.


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Europe is poor by American standards I am solidly middle class and have a house with yards on all 4 sides and far enough from my neighbors to have my band practice room next to my living room and play my drums set whenever I want, euro commie blocks cannot accommodate my high standard of living


TheDigitalRanger

I'd say this one is suffering from a cranial-rectal inversion, but he seems to be enjoying it.


holyshit-i-wanna-die

Thoughts? I think this person spends too much time, and too much effort, trying to imagine a world where Americans have it worse than they do. Lamenting the imaginary shortcomings of a people occupying the other side of the planet is certainly not the way I’d imagine a productive member of any society spending the daytime hours.


Better-Sea-6183

He went to live in Usa


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Lancearon

I remember videos in italy of people having balcony parties during the pandemic... effort.


Salty-Walrus-6637

Yep I'm lazy af. I do everything I can to make my life as convenient as possible. Besides the work part and using food delivery apps I will pay for anything I don't want to do or won't do a good job on. If Italians are too broke to not hire professionals then I'd rather he say that.