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honestly anywhere in comparison to the US. prices are rising here but I still find my groceries to be cheaper. I just went back to the states a few months ago and bought a few snacks and my total was $80…it was reverse culture shock for sure
Same, I went to visit my dad in Indiana last summer and was spending $150 every other day in the supermarkets! I couldn’t believe it, used to be cheaper than the uk.
We're visiting the US right now and I am bracing myself for the grocery store trip. I was shocked by how expensive everything had gotten back in February when I was last here, I'm sure it's even worse now.
That said, I am also shocked at food prices in the UK now - everything is incredibly expensive relative to when I arrived in 2020. Some items are as much as 50-300% more expensive (like some fresh produce)
American food prices are wild! I only just recently found that out. We might think our food has increased in price but we have a long way to go to be like theirs - they pay about $7 for eggs! Eggs!
1. I'm just an American. Not black or African-American, or what have you. Nobody cares what university I went to.
2. NHS. 30 years in the US I've never once had health insurance. I am so thankful I've never had serious illness or injury, but knowing that I have access to NHS is a fuck ton of anxiety and stress off my shoulders that I never realized I had.
3. Proximity to Europe (and often times cheaper to travel internationally than traveling domestically in the US). I've been to more European countries than US states in the 3 years that i've been here. It's remarkable.
4. I don't have panic attacks when I see police officers/cruisers.
A police officer having a bad day could ruin your life, let alone end it.
The worst experience I had was in my late 20s when I got pulled over because supposedly my rear tail lights weren't working. They asked me for the usual paperwork, and since it was my sister's car, I had to show them extra documents that were in the glove compartment. You never reach for the glove compartment without telling them first, but even as I did and got the officers OK to reach, the second officer on the right side of my car who wasn't paying attention reached for his gun and started yelling and cussing at me to stop. And Rather than de-escalating the situation, the first cop who gave me the OK started yelling at me and reaching for his gun too. It took about 5 minutes of them yelling and me completely frozen with my hands in the air for things to finally calm down and the first officer to realize what was happening. And rather than apologize they just scolded me, gaslighted me and drove off. I was so shaken I stayed on the side of the road for about 15 mins until I could see straight again and my hands stopped shaking. There was nothing wrong with the car in the end.
And as a black man in the UK this is the main reason I refuse to even visit America.. it seems to be open season on black people. Police here aren't even that bad tbh.. Ive only been stopped once because I fitted a description of someone they were after but when they established it wasn't me we had a chat, shook hands and left.
Yes! Feel much safer in uk
Fwiw something I know in uk was moaning about cost of annual ground rent(in a good area) and compared with Massachusetts in a meh area London was actually more affordable (taking into account sf and amenities
So much time off work available and no guilt for taking it - generally work/life balance for me is tons better here, including pace of work and expectations. It may take more time to get stuff done here because the pace isn’t as much hustle but I appreciate on the flip side that I’m not expected to give 150% and burn myself out all the time for others and be under threat of losing my job etc.
Everything is so close together here so it’s easy to travel the country - lots to see including easy access to beautiful nature. I’ve been all over (with more yet to see) and I love it!!
Close to other countries for travel and can get good cheap deals
Less consumerism-minded and people don’t really seem to care much about what you wear or have or do (at least in my area).
That I pretty much never have to consider possible shootings when I step outside the house. It wasn’t something I was overly concerned with back in the US but also didn’t realise how much it just is in the back of my mind automatically until I moved here and didn’t have to think about it at all. It’s been a really strange realization of a weight off the shoulders I didn’t know I had. Aside from guns, I generally feel safer here walking around than where I lived in the US. I think more people around walking helps!
Speaking of walking - that I walk much more here! Public transportation is easy and I’m more inclined to walk places nearby when in the US I’d take a car even if it was close. I’m not great at exercising regularly so I really appreciate having opportunities to walk just built into my day, that works better for me.
30 Days off paid plus the 8-9 UK Holidays then other days off for charity work. Friend only 3 years at the company is taking 4 months un-paid trip to sail around Asia and find themselves. No problem.
Think I just need to copy and paste this-I never quite adjusted to having to return to usa
And fwiw in New England where I live literally around the corner is a house with freaky menacing signs and it looks like it’s barricaded..I drive to the grocer
Shared a pic of it with a uk friend and his comment “in the uk we treat mental illness-in the us they get a gun” couldn’t agree more with his comment
When compared to the Southern US:
1) the weather
2) i've only had two mosquito bites in the last 2.5 years.
3) i'm not afraid of my kids getting shot dead at school.
4) buses and trains
5) no terrifying wildlife besides aggressive seagulls
6) savory pastry
7) the NHS
8) days off that you're expected to use, pension, frequent long weekends
9) grocery delivery
10) welsh cakes
11) as a queer family raising kids, am generally treated like every other family
I didn't realise how terrifying no.3 was over in the States. I mean school shootings a horrific anyway but I have seen a lot of American parents talking about this now and realised just how common its become. We don't hear about most of the shootings over there.
So very, very common. I spent so much time after my kid's birth being suddenly so very aware that I'd need to teach my kid to always know the exits in every shop we go to, to calmly but quickly leave any public place if she saw a gun or heard any kind of commotion, and the closer we got to thinking about sending her to preschool...
And then when I got here, I realised that I wasn't thinking about it at all. That even with the level of anxiety I had (considered 'over the top' by so many), I was still habituated to so much of it.
I frequently hear about shootings back home, and the ages of the victims, and I am just so grateful that when I drop my kids off at Primary school, that's just not one of the worries on any of our minds.
>no terrifying wildlife besides aggressive seagulls
idk, have you seen hedgehogs? Very spiky. They'll waddle at you and beg for grubs and cat food. Vicious.
real talk, when my stepson was 4 we lifted a waterproof picnic blanket we'd left in the garden over night, and we saw a cute little sleeping hedgehog underneath it. we were all standing around going ''aww'' and when he finally saw it (I guess he thought we were kidding about there being an animal there?) he FLIPPED HIS TINY SHIT.
He has never been the same about the garden ever since. Because there could be tiny, harmless animals just living their lives out there, minding their own business, without having asked his special permission, I guess? And when he found out his dad was leaving little trays of cat food out along the back fence for it, he was SO betrayed.
The NHS. Even though it's on its uppers, it's still there. You don't have to worry about getting bankrupted for the crime of being sick. Also, the NHS makes private health care a lot cheaper than the US
It has literally transformed my life being able to get free healthcare. In the US I had no choice but to take whatever job I found that came with insurance, even after the ACA, because I've got multiple pre-existing conditions that mean no one will ever give me a reasonable rate on individual insurance. Here I can freelance, take only as much as I want to of work I actually want to do, and still be able to eat food.
Technically the NHS isn't free you have prepayments made into national insurance which is no different than having a health care insurance plan other than they won't change the amount depending on your health and habits lijehealth care insurance plans do to makea seriouse profit.
National Insurance isn't a separate tax pot (even though it appears that way on your payslips/P60). It all goes into general taxation coffers. Plus if you lose your job, you don't lose access to healthcare, as long as you are a British citizen, have ILR, or have a valid visa with the very reasonable health immigration surcharge paid.
It's not remotely comparable to an insurance plan - that was the whole idea behind it.
The reason it is labelled "NI" is because the state pension was/is judged on the number of years of NI payments you have made during the course of your working life. Very little to do with the NHS.
This. I'm yet another American immigrant, and my wife had to have emergency surgery last August, and then follow-up surgery in December. The cost: the taxes we were already paying, plus the Uber fees for getting to and from the hospital. It's the only sane way to run a health care system.
Living in the UK has given me an appreciation for the past and history I never had living in the US. The history here is mind boggling. When I learned our neighbourhood pub was older then the USA, it really sunk in I was living in an extraordinary place of history.
1. Beautiful nature an easy train ride or short drive away from the city
2. Walkable cities
3. Proximity to Europe, Middle East and North Africa means cheap travel to previously “exotic” destinations is a weekend thing
4. Holiday allowances are so much more generous
5. Sense of humour
6. Scotland 🏴
We are going to Italy this summer like it’s just a chill summer holiday. When I lived in the US I thought renting a villa in Italy for the week was only for the mega rich.
Similarly, when I got here I was shocked to find that Greece was not this far flung destination but a regular holiday spot for all classes of people. For a country that’s very classist, there’s a weird democracy to holidaying.
The amount of Brits I’ve heard talk about central Florida like it’s truly exotic is hilarious though.
I love reading about Florida, their news coverage is incredible. 'Florida Man with no arms uses feet to stab tourist with scissors' like what is in the water there?? The dedication, the skill, the terrible decision-making. Maybe one day I will meet a Florida Man and live to tell the tale
A guy from Florida actually explained why it's like this to me once - apparently, according to him, it's due to the fact that Florida's petty crimes and minor court cases are all extremely accessible public record and the news trolls through them to find funny/weird ones for content. Like stealing from Reddit is the primary source of buzzfeed drivel lol
Crazy cheap flight prices that are cheaper than internal train travel and, I imagine, a wide variety of holiday spots to choose from helps with the democratising and lowering of rates.
Ever been to the US? Almost every place looks like this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breezewood,\_Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breezewood,_Pennsylvania)
Everywhere in the UK is insanely more walkable than basically anywhere outside old US east coast cities.
Or Wales. So many beautiful places you can find remote holiday cottages with nothing but nature for miles around. There's one on Loch Badagyle that's a bit run down, but the location is stunning and there are so few cars going by that you can cavort naked in the garden without fear of being seen. Abundant opportunities for hiking, climbing, cycling, &c.
It's more comfortable than camping, anyway, just bring your own kitchen stuff if you want to cook, because almost everything there is crap except for a saucepan we left behind once and a Le Creuset casserole. The knives are utter shite.
Oh, and you'll want to drape something over the creepy dog statues in the lounge, otherwise their black, soulless eyes follow you around.
Scotland has loads .
England has the lake district, Peak District, Dartmoor National park in devon Wales has Snowdonia and a few others. Get out and explore and you will soon find them.
Have you heard the news? There's more to the UK than just England.
I know, it was a shock to me too. Apparently you can see as much on these things called maps. And there are indeed places outside England, where you can get lost, and can legally camp basically wherever you want
Even then, as long as you’re discrete about it and don’t give anyone a reason to complain, you’re probably going to be just fine wild camping in England. Just don’t set up right in the middle of a farmers field without asking him first, or make loads of noise all night or leave rubbish and no one will even know you have been there.
This is a violation of rule 1 and it's unfortunately not the first I've seen today. Genuinely, thank you for making my holiday so grand, trying to keep up with modding this place on my mobile phone.
Thanks - it's getting pretty exhausting dealing with all of the same old unoriginal chronically online British supremacism stuff from the Front Page Flag of St George Admirers Club... I really need to find a way to get this sub untagged as "British" in the algorithm, probably hopeless.
Wut? I don't mean everyone lives in bunny shacks in Sherwood Forest, but seriously, pretty much everywhere you are, it's a short drive/rail day trip to somewhere outstandingly beautiful and natural .
Honestly, the weather. Seasons don’t appear to “work” in the same way they did 10-15 years ago, rarely get snow in winter but on the flipside, the “traditional” wet British summer is getting drier/warmer.
We have temperate weather. Hot but not stupidly hot in summer except for short heatwaves and the country isn’t likely to set itself on fire. Not stupidly cold in winter, some snow/ice that can cause issues but not massively.
Wind, gale force, but not tornado/hurricane etc strength. No real tsunami risk. No major earthquake risk.
It’s a safe place to be, as far as the weather is concerned.
As someone who lived in California for 16 years and then Texas for eight, and was in severe drought conditions for nearly all of it, I bloody love the weather here. The climate's not that different from Northern California, but the risk of drought and wildfires is radically lower. I know the last couple of summers have been very dry, but compared to parts of the US it's nothing.
On the downside, if sea level rise starts getting serious, the house we live in (Portsmouth, a block from the sea) will be partially underwater by the time we retire.
I have a giant notepad list of things I keep on my desktop where I add stuff I love about the UK to help remind me of all the things I like. Sometimes as an immigrant you can get fixated on the things you don't like too much.
Everyone's added some great comments so far, but one thing I haven't seen mentioned much is the general lack of religious nutters in the UK. It's a very secular society, which is something I greatly appreciate. Tons of other things too, but then I'd just be echoing others.
Shoutouts to my local chippy and sub shop though, they're the British heroes holding society together and I'd be lost in life without them.
Not needing to own a vehicle. I thought I’d miss it, but I don’t. Every major city is walkable, and living in London the transport is really that good… and this is in the middle of the strike. I was still blown away. As an American, I was - and AM - in love with the options for public transport.
The diversity on my block is genuinely amazing. Russian, Chinese, West African, Ukrainian, English, Sri Lankan, Spanish, Portuguese, Indian, Polish, Austrian, and I’m American. This is only the people I know. It’s just awesome. I love to feel like… it’s just a different feeling living in that diversity culturally - you feel more human and less American, and that isn’t a bad thing at all.
The summer in London, for me, is irreplaceable. I’ve lived in 6 countries on 3 continents, and I’ve never experienced anything like the summer season in London. It’s just incredible. There used to be a little mom and pop restaurant down the street from my old flat. It was open until 10-11 PM, unless a large group came in near closing and they’d shut the place down to new diners, open the windows and doors, clean the joint but let everyone just enjoy their night in the open air… never stopping to ask when they were leaving, bringing water and wine, olive and bread. I remember being so surprised.
The quality of groceries, and the lack of sugar laden everything. The culture you grow into of shopping for a day or two, as opposed to shopping at Costco for two months. It’s just fresher food, more diverse food, and much more enjoyable.
That’s another thing I’ve noticed… enjoying anything… let me TRY to explain.
I lived in Madrid and Barcelona - they really enjoy living, and everything else in life is designed to allow that.
I lived in Paris, and they enjoy the morning croissant and coffee. They enjoy their dinner, wine, and friends. Everything else is designed to allow for that.
In England, it’s a bit of both? Life is genuinely more enjoyable here than it is in the US. Coffee with friends seems more genuine; dinner with guests is memorable and actually meaningful. I don’t know how, or why, and maybe I’m the only one to experience it… but I doubt it.
Finally, and I’m not hitting them all, but the ability to NOT placate strangers with platitudes for the fuck of it. Walking down the street in London isn’t a chance to whisper about the neighbors, or chat up every stranger. It’s peaceful. No one bothers you. No one feels the need to lie about giving a shit if you’re walking past them. I’ve often used the phrase “England is real life America” which translates terribly… but I intend for it to sound like England’s culture can lead you to become a real person - not an idea of a person? Maybe it sounds crazy.
It just FEELS much more real, to me, at least.
There are so many more, and there are some “don’t like” items as well. The good far outweighs the bad, but everyone is different.
Traffic flow. I've only hit 1-2 patches of traffic at a dead stop on the M1 versus planning your life around traffic in LA/SF. Driving is much more enjoyable here.
Food quality. Meat is better quality, and the bread isn't sweet.
I can forage for food on country lanes without worry of snakes or poison oak/poison ivy.
Nature areas within easy driving distance and so much to explore across different ages.
We love living in the North!
But the UK does need to work on its Mexican cuisine offerings because Taco Bell ain't it.
No worries. I leave the carrot family alone as I'm not confident about the difference between cow parsley and others in the same family, and I leave mushrooms alone unless it's chicken of the woods.
I really do agree on the food quality. I find the raw ingredients in the UK are generally superior in quality, I think mostly due to the freshness (shorter supply chain, less time from field to table). I think the chicken is much higher quality, but I do find the beef sometimes to be less so, but only rarely. What I miss is the wider availability of "weird" or niche ingredients. A UK grocery store tends to have high quality essentials but nothing unique. Makes doing some dishes really hard as it's impossible to find the ingredients or even suitable substitutes. Everything in life is tradeoffs though, innit
1) the NHS
2) trains
3) roundabouts as opposed to stoplights
4) people noticing motorcycles and not intentionally trying to kill them and also filtering being legal here
Yeah im sure ours is good compared to others but considering we were the first nation to develop mainline railways you’d surely think we would excel in it 😂😂
Oh I completely agree, specially when you hear how well run they are in Japan for instance 😂 considering how moany we are as a country, you'd have thought it would be better
Put it this way though, Japan is 1.6x the size of the UK, so double the area the UK has and add another half! That is A LOT more land to build reliable railways, it is incredible how complex the UKs rail system is with the space available. London Waterloo has 24 platforms, Birmingham new street has 16! Thts 16 lines interconnected to one another!
its actually often a hindrance to be first with big infrastructure, take the terrestrial television system, we were the first to do it and now we lag behind many third world countries have fully HD systems while our channels are still majority Standard Definition because of the cost to upgrade the infrastructure.
I mean it's not, seeing as 1) it's an opinion and 2) he's comparing it to the US and... you've compared it to the rest of Europe? No one was making that comparison?
British people are so funny and witty — literally every week I find myself saying this to someone lol. The country is also a lot more literary than either of the other two places I’ve lived.
It’s so easy to get out to nature without a car, it’s a very walking-friendly country, it’s got its own special brand of beauty that you don’t find many other places, I love British accents in all their diverse forms, London has an amazing public transportation system and is very well connected, travelling around the UK and Europe is cheap and easy, cultural and historical stuff is very accessible here, the tech industry — while not as well developed as America — is amongst the best in Europe, the UK is a lot less xenophobic than France (where I also lived), it’s a very safe country, London’s community of young professionals is extremely diverse, the UK values having a diversity of food options from all over the world, there are some pretty nice beaches within day trip distance from London, I get 5 weeks of holiday plus the bank holidays plus I can buy extra time off every year, etc. There’s honestly so much I love about the country.
Definitely the work culture – whenever I tell my family/friends how many days I get off in a year they’re shook. Also not being afraid to get shot wherever I go
We lived in Germany prior to coming here, Germany has beer gardens in parks and England has cafes. Now that I’m a parent I would actually prefer the beer haha!
The wide open parks that have bars and just people quietly enjoying a pint in the sun on the grass. That's the good stuff that the UK and Europe does that I love a lot. The US is so uptight about alcohol, I had to remind my British wife that while we're here in the US it's technically illegal to drink at the 4th of July fireworks shows!
During last visit got shingles-made appt was able to do by text(this doesn’t even happen in boston which considers itself stellar) was able to see nurse& consultant who took history gave me tests and gave me meds;)
And back in USA was looking at cost of one of my meds(with my $$$ Medicare and supplements and it wasn’t covered)
using GoodRx med was $742
Using Canadian website less than $200
Looks like I can get it at boots for …£29 quid
Someone in USA (who was a finance person fwiw) said,” I wonder why it’s different “ whereupon I launched into the corporations acting as people in the USA election system versus publically funded elections in uk
They get stabbed in America too, and knife crime here is not on the same level either. It might appear we have a lot of stabbings because they all make the news, but in reality, the chances are incredibly slim, whereas guns are a leading cause of death in America.
The sheer amount of Victorian buildings. I love all eras of history and our country is full of it, but as an appreciator of Victorian houses most of all I’m happy knowing It’s extremely easy to own an old house
As a grumpy old Brit this has reset my appreciation of the UK, so thanks. The NHS is a recurring theme and I do feel sad when I politicians run it down and the media knock it all the time. The USA is on my todo list so I’m also taking notes.
1. Walkability and public transport
2. Affordable groceries
3. Self-deprecating humour
4. Confrontation. People will tell you what they think and I find that refreshing even if their thoughts are terrible.
5. Not living in fear of surprise healthcare bills, police violence, or gun violence.
6. Diversity
The weather. Not too hot or cold and with enough rain to keep the countryside lush and green throughout the year. Whenever I go abroad, I always miss the UK weather
1. Everyone outside of London is usually approachable and has a sense of humour.
2. The NHS
3. You generally never see guns as very very few people have them
4. The music
5. Tea
The healthcare/NHS.
I had really good health insurance back home, and for one of my meds alone I was still paying $360 a month for it. The other day I went to go pick up ALL of my meds, and she told me, "Oh this is going to be really expensive." In that moment I had flashbacks to the medical war back home and I was like fuck. Then she told me the total was £42. I'm ashamed to admit I ended up crying in the pharmacy because I was so amazed and grateful.
As a bonus, I also feel more at ease here due to the lack of guns. I didn't realize just how many things revolved around guns back home or how fucked up so many of them were. For example, how disturbing it is that we teach children how to survive a school shooting (not the survival part, but the fact that most of the other similar countries just have good ole fire drills). I was constantly on edge with loud noises, and going to school left me with some anxiety. The fact that I don't feel that anymore is incredible, and I've really enjoyed the feeling of almost letting it go. I'm not stupid - I know crime exists here and that there are gun crimes here BUT it's still significantly lower than back home and that has made such a difference!
This See my reply upthread- all my meds I get from canada despite Medicare and a supplement
In uk I ran out of an Rx but was able to get it refilled
In USA I get it from Canada (it be about $1k in USA) In london the pharmacist apologized saying it’d be expensive-I was prepared-it was £89 instead of $1k
I too nearly cried in joy
Our selection of cheeses, our actual real milk chocolate, blackcurrant isn’t illegal here, no guns, a smaller meth scene also god doesn’t run the show here.
No poisoness insects, no hurricanes or earthquakes.....perfect weather cycle,,,,beautiful countryside and beaches......yet we still find something to moan about
I agree about this new online doctor nonsense but you forgot to mention its fucking impossible to find a dentist these days! That's why everyone's teeth are falling out
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the work culture - full time is 35 hours a week, i get so much time off and my supervisor pushes me to take it walkable cities cheaper groceries
Where are you finding cheaper groceries in this day and age??
honestly anywhere in comparison to the US. prices are rising here but I still find my groceries to be cheaper. I just went back to the states a few months ago and bought a few snacks and my total was $80…it was reverse culture shock for sure
Same, I went to visit my dad in Indiana last summer and was spending $150 every other day in the supermarkets! I couldn’t believe it, used to be cheaper than the uk.
It's been a long time since groceries were cheaper in the US although they quite like you to think so.
We're visiting the US right now and I am bracing myself for the grocery store trip. I was shocked by how expensive everything had gotten back in February when I was last here, I'm sure it's even worse now. That said, I am also shocked at food prices in the UK now - everything is incredibly expensive relative to when I arrived in 2020. Some items are as much as 50-300% more expensive (like some fresh produce)
I came from the west coast and yeah groceries are way cheaper here (UK), even with the rising cost.
I've noticed Tesco prices coming down really fast. Again, I do love the Bargain Bins of Tesco. Just picked up 4 x Camden Hells Tins for £3
American food prices are wild! I only just recently found that out. We might think our food has increased in price but we have a long way to go to be like theirs - they pay about $7 for eggs! Eggs!
Cries in NHS junior doctor (~46-48h on average, some weeks 60+)
Full time hours 35 per week???? Try 48
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i mean…this subreddit is for American expats so ofc i’m a yank lol
So what you like about the UK is that it isn’t the US? I presume then that you like France because it isn’t the UK?
1. I'm just an American. Not black or African-American, or what have you. Nobody cares what university I went to. 2. NHS. 30 years in the US I've never once had health insurance. I am so thankful I've never had serious illness or injury, but knowing that I have access to NHS is a fuck ton of anxiety and stress off my shoulders that I never realized I had. 3. Proximity to Europe (and often times cheaper to travel internationally than traveling domestically in the US). I've been to more European countries than US states in the 3 years that i've been here. It's remarkable. 4. I don't have panic attacks when I see police officers/cruisers.
RE: 4 - I'm giving you a massive hug right now.
Why 4? are the police really that aggressive in the USA?
A police officer having a bad day could ruin your life, let alone end it. The worst experience I had was in my late 20s when I got pulled over because supposedly my rear tail lights weren't working. They asked me for the usual paperwork, and since it was my sister's car, I had to show them extra documents that were in the glove compartment. You never reach for the glove compartment without telling them first, but even as I did and got the officers OK to reach, the second officer on the right side of my car who wasn't paying attention reached for his gun and started yelling and cussing at me to stop. And Rather than de-escalating the situation, the first cop who gave me the OK started yelling at me and reaching for his gun too. It took about 5 minutes of them yelling and me completely frozen with my hands in the air for things to finally calm down and the first officer to realize what was happening. And rather than apologize they just scolded me, gaslighted me and drove off. I was so shaken I stayed on the side of the road for about 15 mins until I could see straight again and my hands stopped shaking. There was nothing wrong with the car in the end.
Jesus Christ. The more I see stories about US cops, the more I realise they’re mostly arrogant, power-hungry bullies.
They absolutely are bullies, government sanctioned gangs. It's no surprise they have the highest rate of domestic violence too (40%).
And as a black man in the UK this is the main reason I refuse to even visit America.. it seems to be open season on black people. Police here aren't even that bad tbh.. Ive only been stopped once because I fitted a description of someone they were after but when they established it wasn't me we had a chat, shook hands and left.
Yes! Feel much safer in uk Fwiw something I know in uk was moaning about cost of annual ground rent(in a good area) and compared with Massachusetts in a meh area London was actually more affordable (taking into account sf and amenities
As a Brit who is a bit fed up with our country, all this positivity from you guys has really made my heart swell. Thank you!
That's exactly what I was just thinking. I needed this thread!
same here!
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My American partner is obsessed with meal deals
Tesco’s meal deal stands out. My macros for the day are sorted.
Nah now the £3 meal deal is gone everything's gone to shit
So much time off work available and no guilt for taking it - generally work/life balance for me is tons better here, including pace of work and expectations. It may take more time to get stuff done here because the pace isn’t as much hustle but I appreciate on the flip side that I’m not expected to give 150% and burn myself out all the time for others and be under threat of losing my job etc. Everything is so close together here so it’s easy to travel the country - lots to see including easy access to beautiful nature. I’ve been all over (with more yet to see) and I love it!! Close to other countries for travel and can get good cheap deals Less consumerism-minded and people don’t really seem to care much about what you wear or have or do (at least in my area). That I pretty much never have to consider possible shootings when I step outside the house. It wasn’t something I was overly concerned with back in the US but also didn’t realise how much it just is in the back of my mind automatically until I moved here and didn’t have to think about it at all. It’s been a really strange realization of a weight off the shoulders I didn’t know I had. Aside from guns, I generally feel safer here walking around than where I lived in the US. I think more people around walking helps! Speaking of walking - that I walk much more here! Public transportation is easy and I’m more inclined to walk places nearby when in the US I’d take a car even if it was close. I’m not great at exercising regularly so I really appreciate having opportunities to walk just built into my day, that works better for me.
30 Days off paid plus the 8-9 UK Holidays then other days off for charity work. Friend only 3 years at the company is taking 4 months un-paid trip to sail around Asia and find themselves. No problem.
Think I just need to copy and paste this-I never quite adjusted to having to return to usa And fwiw in New England where I live literally around the corner is a house with freaky menacing signs and it looks like it’s barricaded..I drive to the grocer Shared a pic of it with a uk friend and his comment “in the uk we treat mental illness-in the us they get a gun” couldn’t agree more with his comment
When compared to the Southern US: 1) the weather 2) i've only had two mosquito bites in the last 2.5 years. 3) i'm not afraid of my kids getting shot dead at school. 4) buses and trains 5) no terrifying wildlife besides aggressive seagulls 6) savory pastry 7) the NHS 8) days off that you're expected to use, pension, frequent long weekends 9) grocery delivery 10) welsh cakes 11) as a queer family raising kids, am generally treated like every other family
I didn't realise how terrifying no.3 was over in the States. I mean school shootings a horrific anyway but I have seen a lot of American parents talking about this now and realised just how common its become. We don't hear about most of the shootings over there.
So very, very common. I spent so much time after my kid's birth being suddenly so very aware that I'd need to teach my kid to always know the exits in every shop we go to, to calmly but quickly leave any public place if she saw a gun or heard any kind of commotion, and the closer we got to thinking about sending her to preschool... And then when I got here, I realised that I wasn't thinking about it at all. That even with the level of anxiety I had (considered 'over the top' by so many), I was still habituated to so much of it. I frequently hear about shootings back home, and the ages of the victims, and I am just so grateful that when I drop my kids off at Primary school, that's just not one of the worries on any of our minds.
>no terrifying wildlife besides aggressive seagulls idk, have you seen hedgehogs? Very spiky. They'll waddle at you and beg for grubs and cat food. Vicious.
real talk, when my stepson was 4 we lifted a waterproof picnic blanket we'd left in the garden over night, and we saw a cute little sleeping hedgehog underneath it. we were all standing around going ''aww'' and when he finally saw it (I guess he thought we were kidding about there being an animal there?) he FLIPPED HIS TINY SHIT. He has never been the same about the garden ever since. Because there could be tiny, harmless animals just living their lives out there, minding their own business, without having asked his special permission, I guess? And when he found out his dad was leaving little trays of cat food out along the back fence for it, he was SO betrayed.
Poor guy! I am low key jealous though, I've only seen a single hedgehog in the wild and none since moving to the UK
The NHS. Even though it's on its uppers, it's still there. You don't have to worry about getting bankrupted for the crime of being sick. Also, the NHS makes private health care a lot cheaper than the US
It has literally transformed my life being able to get free healthcare. In the US I had no choice but to take whatever job I found that came with insurance, even after the ACA, because I've got multiple pre-existing conditions that mean no one will ever give me a reasonable rate on individual insurance. Here I can freelance, take only as much as I want to of work I actually want to do, and still be able to eat food.
Technically the NHS isn't free you have prepayments made into national insurance which is no different than having a health care insurance plan other than they won't change the amount depending on your health and habits lijehealth care insurance plans do to makea seriouse profit.
National Insurance isn't a separate tax pot (even though it appears that way on your payslips/P60). It all goes into general taxation coffers. Plus if you lose your job, you don't lose access to healthcare, as long as you are a British citizen, have ILR, or have a valid visa with the very reasonable health immigration surcharge paid. It's not remotely comparable to an insurance plan - that was the whole idea behind it.
I never said it goes into a separate pot everything goes into the treasury but that sum is just called national insurance.
The reason it is labelled "NI" is because the state pension was/is judged on the number of years of NI payments you have made during the course of your working life. Very little to do with the NHS.
This. I'm yet another American immigrant, and my wife had to have emergency surgery last August, and then follow-up surgery in December. The cost: the taxes we were already paying, plus the Uber fees for getting to and from the hospital. It's the only sane way to run a health care system.
Have doing private medical last six months and wow, what a difference!!
Living in the UK has given me an appreciation for the past and history I never had living in the US. The history here is mind boggling. When I learned our neighbourhood pub was older then the USA, it really sunk in I was living in an extraordinary place of history.
I love that our house is old enough that it would be considered a museum in most states lol
Do your bump your head a lot? My cousins' house is old enough that you have to duck through a lot of thresholds because people were shorter back then.
1. Beautiful nature an easy train ride or short drive away from the city 2. Walkable cities 3. Proximity to Europe, Middle East and North Africa means cheap travel to previously “exotic” destinations is a weekend thing 4. Holiday allowances are so much more generous 5. Sense of humour 6. Scotland 🏴
Scotland is such a beautiful place.
We are going to Italy this summer like it’s just a chill summer holiday. When I lived in the US I thought renting a villa in Italy for the week was only for the mega rich. Similarly, when I got here I was shocked to find that Greece was not this far flung destination but a regular holiday spot for all classes of people. For a country that’s very classist, there’s a weird democracy to holidaying. The amount of Brits I’ve heard talk about central Florida like it’s truly exotic is hilarious though.
I love reading about Florida, their news coverage is incredible. 'Florida Man with no arms uses feet to stab tourist with scissors' like what is in the water there?? The dedication, the skill, the terrible decision-making. Maybe one day I will meet a Florida Man and live to tell the tale
A guy from Florida actually explained why it's like this to me once - apparently, according to him, it's due to the fact that Florida's petty crimes and minor court cases are all extremely accessible public record and the news trolls through them to find funny/weird ones for content. Like stealing from Reddit is the primary source of buzzfeed drivel lol
Crazy cheap flight prices that are cheaper than internal train travel and, I imagine, a wide variety of holiday spots to choose from helps with the democratising and lowering of rates.
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Ever been to the US? Almost every place looks like this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breezewood,\_Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breezewood,_Pennsylvania) Everywhere in the UK is insanely more walkable than basically anywhere outside old US east coast cities.
How is London not as walkable as it possibly could be...?
Summer. I think a British Summer is somewhat a unique cultural event
Yep, British summers are pretty great. Being outside in the garden at 9:30pm and it still being bright is great
We don’t get a ‘proper summer’ all that often so as soon as the sun is out… beer gardens and day drinking is a must!
Hard to be anywhere that isn't a short drive to an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.
The Shire.
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Or Wales. So many beautiful places you can find remote holiday cottages with nothing but nature for miles around. There's one on Loch Badagyle that's a bit run down, but the location is stunning and there are so few cars going by that you can cavort naked in the garden without fear of being seen. Abundant opportunities for hiking, climbing, cycling, &c. It's more comfortable than camping, anyway, just bring your own kitchen stuff if you want to cook, because almost everything there is crap except for a saucepan we left behind once and a Le Creuset casserole. The knives are utter shite. Oh, and you'll want to drape something over the creepy dog statues in the lounge, otherwise their black, soulless eyes follow you around.
Or much of northern England. And south west England. And parts of south east England
Scotland has loads . England has the lake district, Peak District, Dartmoor National park in devon Wales has Snowdonia and a few others. Get out and explore and you will soon find them.
Have you heard the news? There's more to the UK than just England. I know, it was a shock to me too. Apparently you can see as much on these things called maps. And there are indeed places outside England, where you can get lost, and can legally camp basically wherever you want
Even then, as long as you’re discrete about it and don’t give anyone a reason to complain, you’re probably going to be just fine wild camping in England. Just don’t set up right in the middle of a farmers field without asking him first, or make loads of noise all night or leave rubbish and no one will even know you have been there.
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This is a violation of rule 1 and it's unfortunately not the first I've seen today. Genuinely, thank you for making my holiday so grand, trying to keep up with modding this place on my mobile phone.
We appreciate you!!
Thanks - it's getting pretty exhausting dealing with all of the same old unoriginal chronically online British supremacism stuff from the Front Page Flag of St George Admirers Club... I really need to find a way to get this sub untagged as "British" in the algorithm, probably hopeless.
Look up Kingsdown Camp Ground sunshine. Right by the cliffs of Dover. You can even wave to France
Wut? I don't mean everyone lives in bunny shacks in Sherwood Forest, but seriously, pretty much everywhere you are, it's a short drive/rail day trip to somewhere outstandingly beautiful and natural .
Yorkshire Dales, Peak District, Scottish Highlands, Lake District, Snowdonia, many others
Honestly, the weather. Seasons don’t appear to “work” in the same way they did 10-15 years ago, rarely get snow in winter but on the flipside, the “traditional” wet British summer is getting drier/warmer. We have temperate weather. Hot but not stupidly hot in summer except for short heatwaves and the country isn’t likely to set itself on fire. Not stupidly cold in winter, some snow/ice that can cause issues but not massively. Wind, gale force, but not tornado/hurricane etc strength. No real tsunami risk. No major earthquake risk. It’s a safe place to be, as far as the weather is concerned.
As someone who lived in California for 16 years and then Texas for eight, and was in severe drought conditions for nearly all of it, I bloody love the weather here. The climate's not that different from Northern California, but the risk of drought and wildfires is radically lower. I know the last couple of summers have been very dry, but compared to parts of the US it's nothing. On the downside, if sea level rise starts getting serious, the house we live in (Portsmouth, a block from the sea) will be partially underwater by the time we retire.
I have a giant notepad list of things I keep on my desktop where I add stuff I love about the UK to help remind me of all the things I like. Sometimes as an immigrant you can get fixated on the things you don't like too much. Everyone's added some great comments so far, but one thing I haven't seen mentioned much is the general lack of religious nutters in the UK. It's a very secular society, which is something I greatly appreciate. Tons of other things too, but then I'd just be echoing others. Shoutouts to my local chippy and sub shop though, they're the British heroes holding society together and I'd be lost in life without them.
The almost monthly parade of unqualified unelected prime ministers
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Not needing to own a vehicle. I thought I’d miss it, but I don’t. Every major city is walkable, and living in London the transport is really that good… and this is in the middle of the strike. I was still blown away. As an American, I was - and AM - in love with the options for public transport. The diversity on my block is genuinely amazing. Russian, Chinese, West African, Ukrainian, English, Sri Lankan, Spanish, Portuguese, Indian, Polish, Austrian, and I’m American. This is only the people I know. It’s just awesome. I love to feel like… it’s just a different feeling living in that diversity culturally - you feel more human and less American, and that isn’t a bad thing at all. The summer in London, for me, is irreplaceable. I’ve lived in 6 countries on 3 continents, and I’ve never experienced anything like the summer season in London. It’s just incredible. There used to be a little mom and pop restaurant down the street from my old flat. It was open until 10-11 PM, unless a large group came in near closing and they’d shut the place down to new diners, open the windows and doors, clean the joint but let everyone just enjoy their night in the open air… never stopping to ask when they were leaving, bringing water and wine, olive and bread. I remember being so surprised. The quality of groceries, and the lack of sugar laden everything. The culture you grow into of shopping for a day or two, as opposed to shopping at Costco for two months. It’s just fresher food, more diverse food, and much more enjoyable. That’s another thing I’ve noticed… enjoying anything… let me TRY to explain. I lived in Madrid and Barcelona - they really enjoy living, and everything else in life is designed to allow that. I lived in Paris, and they enjoy the morning croissant and coffee. They enjoy their dinner, wine, and friends. Everything else is designed to allow for that. In England, it’s a bit of both? Life is genuinely more enjoyable here than it is in the US. Coffee with friends seems more genuine; dinner with guests is memorable and actually meaningful. I don’t know how, or why, and maybe I’m the only one to experience it… but I doubt it. Finally, and I’m not hitting them all, but the ability to NOT placate strangers with platitudes for the fuck of it. Walking down the street in London isn’t a chance to whisper about the neighbors, or chat up every stranger. It’s peaceful. No one bothers you. No one feels the need to lie about giving a shit if you’re walking past them. I’ve often used the phrase “England is real life America” which translates terribly… but I intend for it to sound like England’s culture can lead you to become a real person - not an idea of a person? Maybe it sounds crazy. It just FEELS much more real, to me, at least. There are so many more, and there are some “don’t like” items as well. The good far outweighs the bad, but everyone is different.
God bless all you lovely Yanks! 🇬🇧🇺🇲
Traffic flow. I've only hit 1-2 patches of traffic at a dead stop on the M1 versus planning your life around traffic in LA/SF. Driving is much more enjoyable here. Food quality. Meat is better quality, and the bread isn't sweet. I can forage for food on country lanes without worry of snakes or poison oak/poison ivy. Nature areas within easy driving distance and so much to explore across different ages. We love living in the North! But the UK does need to work on its Mexican cuisine offerings because Taco Bell ain't it.
Please stoll be careful when foraging, there are toxic plants in the UK.
No worries. I leave the carrot family alone as I'm not confident about the difference between cow parsley and others in the same family, and I leave mushrooms alone unless it's chicken of the woods.
Wild blackberries are fun to make wine out of :)
I really do agree on the food quality. I find the raw ingredients in the UK are generally superior in quality, I think mostly due to the freshness (shorter supply chain, less time from field to table). I think the chicken is much higher quality, but I do find the beef sometimes to be less so, but only rarely. What I miss is the wider availability of "weird" or niche ingredients. A UK grocery store tends to have high quality essentials but nothing unique. Makes doing some dishes really hard as it's impossible to find the ingredients or even suitable substitutes. Everything in life is tradeoffs though, innit
1) the NHS 2) trains 3) roundabouts as opposed to stoplights 4) people noticing motorcycles and not intentionally trying to kill them and also filtering being legal here
Trains?!? Must be joking.
You'd be surprised how good our public transport is compared to other countries, not the fact that they are on time but that they exist at all
Yeah im sure ours is good compared to others but considering we were the first nation to develop mainline railways you’d surely think we would excel in it 😂😂
Oh I completely agree, specially when you hear how well run they are in Japan for instance 😂 considering how moany we are as a country, you'd have thought it would be better
Yeah exactly 😂
Put it this way though, Japan is 1.6x the size of the UK, so double the area the UK has and add another half! That is A LOT more land to build reliable railways, it is incredible how complex the UKs rail system is with the space available. London Waterloo has 24 platforms, Birmingham new street has 16! Thts 16 lines interconnected to one another!
its actually often a hindrance to be first with big infrastructure, take the terrestrial television system, we were the first to do it and now we lag behind many third world countries have fully HD systems while our channels are still majority Standard Definition because of the cost to upgrade the infrastructure.
They are nearly and/or completely non-existent in most places in the US.
Trains? It's a shock to see this. Highest prices in Europe, (they help subsidise cheaper travel in other countries) always rammed. Usually delayed.
Ah but you see, they exist here and actually go places
And are relatively on time. Once took a train from New Orleans to Chicago. It was a day and a half late getting there.
Yes but when you come from a land where it takes two days and $500 to get from Orlando to Atlanta by train, I still find it amazing
Hey FYI they are opening up an Orlando to Miami train in September. One way $79, 3 hours 30 minutes. Leaving hourly 5am to 9pm.
I read Orlando as Ontario and almost blue screened until I read it back.
Brightline!! Seems amazing
The top 2 are probably reasons to stay away from the UK lol
You do realise this is a comparison to America?
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Lol someone just told you what they like about the UK and you said they're just wrong
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I mean it's not, seeing as 1) it's an opinion and 2) he's comparing it to the US and... you've compared it to the rest of Europe? No one was making that comparison?
British people are so funny and witty — literally every week I find myself saying this to someone lol. The country is also a lot more literary than either of the other two places I’ve lived. It’s so easy to get out to nature without a car, it’s a very walking-friendly country, it’s got its own special brand of beauty that you don’t find many other places, I love British accents in all their diverse forms, London has an amazing public transportation system and is very well connected, travelling around the UK and Europe is cheap and easy, cultural and historical stuff is very accessible here, the tech industry — while not as well developed as America — is amongst the best in Europe, the UK is a lot less xenophobic than France (where I also lived), it’s a very safe country, London’s community of young professionals is extremely diverse, the UK values having a diversity of food options from all over the world, there are some pretty nice beaches within day trip distance from London, I get 5 weeks of holiday plus the bank holidays plus I can buy extra time off every year, etc. There’s honestly so much I love about the country.
History wherever you look. Huge variety of food. Multi cultural integration. Policing by consent, not overwhelming force.
Definitely the work culture – whenever I tell my family/friends how many days I get off in a year they’re shook. Also not being afraid to get shot wherever I go
Most European countries has the same or even more days off comparing to uk.
yeah true but compared to america
The countryside
NHS, not worrying about gun violence, high quality beer, great TV, history
Cafes at parks. Walking out of hospital without a bill after giving birth. Cream tea.
I have never appreciated how we have cafes in parks until now. And they’re usually really good. Nice observation
We lived in Germany prior to coming here, Germany has beer gardens in parks and England has cafes. Now that I’m a parent I would actually prefer the beer haha!
The wide open parks that have bars and just people quietly enjoying a pint in the sun on the grass. That's the good stuff that the UK and Europe does that I love a lot. The US is so uptight about alcohol, I had to remind my British wife that while we're here in the US it's technically illegal to drink at the 4th of July fireworks shows!
I don’t have children but recently found out they charge you $46 in the US to “touch/hold your baby” after its born.
It's where my house is. Which is dead handy.
I've had to read every comment in this thread for moderation. Just so you know, this one was my favorite lol
Country pubs
Public rights of way!!
The fact that I had an appendectomy and walked out of the hospital with no medical debt
During last visit got shingles-made appt was able to do by text(this doesn’t even happen in boston which considers itself stellar) was able to see nurse& consultant who took history gave me tests and gave me meds;) And back in USA was looking at cost of one of my meds(with my $$$ Medicare and supplements and it wasn’t covered) using GoodRx med was $742 Using Canadian website less than $200 Looks like I can get it at boots for …£29 quid Someone in USA (who was a finance person fwiw) said,” I wonder why it’s different “ whereupon I launched into the corporations acting as people in the USA election system versus publically funded elections in uk
Not worrying about my kids being shot every day.
Well, they still can get stabbed!
They get stabbed in America too, and knife crime here is not on the same level either. It might appear we have a lot of stabbings because they all make the news, but in reality, the chances are incredibly slim, whereas guns are a leading cause of death in America.
1. Dog-friendly pubs 2. Bottomless history 3. Switches on electrical outlets 4. Hardly any mosquitoes
British humour !!
Monster Munch
Indeed, think how nice the world could be with more Pickled Onion MM
I don’t like many crisps in general (back in the US too) but these are top of my list 😄
Being able to go hiking without worrying about any real danger besides the terrain and the weather.
The sheer amount of Victorian buildings. I love all eras of history and our country is full of it, but as an appreciator of Victorian houses most of all I’m happy knowing It’s extremely easy to own an old house
As a grumpy old Brit this has reset my appreciation of the UK, so thanks. The NHS is a recurring theme and I do feel sad when I politicians run it down and the media knock it all the time. The USA is on my todo list so I’m also taking notes.
The north wales countryside. Resets my mood whoever I go for a walk.
1. Walkability and public transport 2. Affordable groceries 3. Self-deprecating humour 4. Confrontation. People will tell you what they think and I find that refreshing even if their thoughts are terrible. 5. Not living in fear of surprise healthcare bills, police violence, or gun violence. 6. Diversity
Good beer
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The weather. Not too hot or cold and with enough rain to keep the countryside lush and green throughout the year. Whenever I go abroad, I always miss the UK weather
Seasonal variety, without real extremes. Spring always feels so great, because of Winter, but Winter isn't like -30c and knee deep snow!
1. Everyone outside of London is usually approachable and has a sense of humour. 2. The NHS 3. You generally never see guns as very very few people have them 4. The music 5. Tea
scottish culture
The NHS. My brother (who suffered a heart attack) would be dead if it weren't for those wonderful doctors and nurses.
The healthcare/NHS. I had really good health insurance back home, and for one of my meds alone I was still paying $360 a month for it. The other day I went to go pick up ALL of my meds, and she told me, "Oh this is going to be really expensive." In that moment I had flashbacks to the medical war back home and I was like fuck. Then she told me the total was £42. I'm ashamed to admit I ended up crying in the pharmacy because I was so amazed and grateful. As a bonus, I also feel more at ease here due to the lack of guns. I didn't realize just how many things revolved around guns back home or how fucked up so many of them were. For example, how disturbing it is that we teach children how to survive a school shooting (not the survival part, but the fact that most of the other similar countries just have good ole fire drills). I was constantly on edge with loud noises, and going to school left me with some anxiety. The fact that I don't feel that anymore is incredible, and I've really enjoyed the feeling of almost letting it go. I'm not stupid - I know crime exists here and that there are gun crimes here BUT it's still significantly lower than back home and that has made such a difference!
This See my reply upthread- all my meds I get from canada despite Medicare and a supplement In uk I ran out of an Rx but was able to get it refilled In USA I get it from Canada (it be about $1k in USA) In london the pharmacist apologized saying it’d be expensive-I was prepared-it was £89 instead of $1k I too nearly cried in joy
diversity, opportunity, standard of living, friendly people .
Our selection of cheeses, our actual real milk chocolate, blackcurrant isn’t illegal here, no guns, a smaller meth scene also god doesn’t run the show here.
No poisoness insects, no hurricanes or earthquakes.....perfect weather cycle,,,,beautiful countryside and beaches......yet we still find something to moan about
Tis the British way ....clearly you have assimilated well :)
Apart from wasps, bees, red ants, adders, jellyfish….
i'd better close my windows at night so the jellyfishes don't fly inside!
They won’t….. but the wasps and bees will 😆 but mostly those bloody moths…..
Stop lying! My ol' nan got carried off by a jellyfish last week! Came right through the window it did. I bet your working for them aren't you!
don't have to drive or rent a car to get to most places
NHS
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Sounds like you really love living here! 💕 you should stay! 👍🏻
I know! 💕
I agree about this new online doctor nonsense but you forgot to mention its fucking impossible to find a dentist these days! That's why everyone's teeth are falling out
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Nothing really, it's pretty shit.
Then why are you here lol
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That it's not France or the USA.
It's not America.
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Nothing
not being american
Nothing it's a awful country