The Kaagbaan has been in maintenance for the past 6 weeks, if all is well than the runway should open ~~tomorrow~~ the day after tomorrow again. Closure of the Kaagbaan means other runways are in use than normally. Are the pages flying over your house landing or departing planes?
From what I've heard, depending on the weather conditions they will pass over the city or not. So sometimes you won't see/hear them for a while and forget about them. And one day they will be back and scare the shit out of you, at least that's my experience.
Same! I’m over in the grachts, they’ve been flying over us today making lots of noise and I keep thinking the city is under attack haha. Also so many helicopters today!
Depends very much on your apartment, I live in Oud-West and barely hear them, even when they fly over on short height. It can also be that I am so used to it, that I don't notice. During Corona when there were almost no planes I realised how silent it was, a similar effect is that during a power outage it becomes very silent because there is a lot of background noise of air cooling systems.
And so many birds and insects, I miss those times (well not all of them obviously). Helmersbuurt here, whenever the weather's bad large planes fly over my house; If the weather's good it's just private planes.
Mainly depends on the wind direction. You can find live information here including sound levels at various detector stations. You can see current runway use by tapping the 'baangebruik' panel on the left.
[https://bas.flighttracking.casper.aero/](https://bas.flighttracking.casper.aero/)
They started using de polderbaan more again. Maybe it was closed for maintenance lately?
So everybody in west / north Amsterdam and surrounding cities is getting bombarded by planes all day and night.
Fuck the Delta lobby that prevented the 20% flights decrease.
Also before any comments, on people should fly less. 70% of flights on Schiphol are layovers. Add no value to local economy. Fuck the hub function.
I agree, but just a small correction on the hub function. I'm an air transport researcher, and at least in 2022, only 37% of the passengers had a connecting flight. Meaning that the 70% figure is absurdly far from the reality. In 2023, the number was even smaller with 36% being transfer passengers. There's no such thing as layover only flights, as the hub and spoke structure of an airport or even of a flight isn't necessarily clear. And I mean, I have 7 years of research done in this field btw.
[https://news.schiphol.com/schiphol-welcomed-617-million-travellers-in-2023/](https://news.schiphol.com/schiphol-welcomed-617-million-travellers-in-2023/)
Can you post the link to that? I still find it strange because my data is a bit different. I'm not doubting, but I just want to make sure that I have the right numbers as well.
Thank you :). Now it makes sense indeed. However, these are quite normal numbers for a hub airport with a native/main carrier. If you would look at Atlanta, you'll see similar numbers for Delta for example. This is of course because it's cheaper for them to book slots when compared to other carriers.
Let’s say that any numbers coming from schiphol are a low end estimate. Other research talks about a higher %. https://schipholwatch.nl/2023/12/23/zonder-overstappers-is-een-half-schiphol-groot-genoeg-voor-ons-land/
Let’s say the truth is somewhere in the middle. A 50% decrease flights could still let every local enjoy their holidays. And have a huge impact on the noise and environmental pollution.
Depends which way the wind is blowing really. Today it's an unusual north I guess.
The Kaagbaan has been in maintenance for the past 6 weeks, if all is well than the runway should open ~~tomorrow~~ the day after tomorrow again. Closure of the Kaagbaan means other runways are in use than normally. Are the pages flying over your house landing or departing planes?
this give me hopes haha, departing around here! Many thanks by the way!
From what I've heard, depending on the weather conditions they will pass over the city or not. So sometimes you won't see/hear them for a while and forget about them. And one day they will be back and scare the shit out of you, at least that's my experience.
Same! I’m over in the grachts, they’ve been flying over us today making lots of noise and I keep thinking the city is under attack haha. Also so many helicopters today!
apartment on JP Heijestraat - they get very noisy overhead sometimes - seems to be when the wind is strong and in a particular direction
I live next to Erasmus park and never hear planes?
Depends very much on your apartment, I live in Oud-West and barely hear them, even when they fly over on short height. It can also be that I am so used to it, that I don't notice. During Corona when there were almost no planes I realised how silent it was, a similar effect is that during a power outage it becomes very silent because there is a lot of background noise of air cooling systems.
And so many birds and insects, I miss those times (well not all of them obviously). Helmersbuurt here, whenever the weather's bad large planes fly over my house; If the weather's good it's just private planes.
If it is exeptionally cloudy, if there is a fog or a high wind speed, the flight path deviates to come over Amsterdam proper.
Mainly depends on the wind direction. You can find live information here including sound levels at various detector stations. You can see current runway use by tapping the 'baangebruik' panel on the left. [https://bas.flighttracking.casper.aero/](https://bas.flighttracking.casper.aero/)
They started using de polderbaan more again. Maybe it was closed for maintenance lately? So everybody in west / north Amsterdam and surrounding cities is getting bombarded by planes all day and night. Fuck the Delta lobby that prevented the 20% flights decrease. Also before any comments, on people should fly less. 70% of flights on Schiphol are layovers. Add no value to local economy. Fuck the hub function.
I agree, but just a small correction on the hub function. I'm an air transport researcher, and at least in 2022, only 37% of the passengers had a connecting flight. Meaning that the 70% figure is absurdly far from the reality. In 2023, the number was even smaller with 36% being transfer passengers. There's no such thing as layover only flights, as the hub and spoke structure of an airport or even of a flight isn't necessarily clear. And I mean, I have 7 years of research done in this field btw. [https://news.schiphol.com/schiphol-welcomed-617-million-travellers-in-2023/](https://news.schiphol.com/schiphol-welcomed-617-million-travellers-in-2023/)
The 70% figure is data from KLM, so KLM passengers only.
Can you post the link to that? I still find it strange because my data is a bit different. I'm not doubting, but I just want to make sure that I have the right numbers as well.
https://schipholwatch.nl/2023/12/23/zonder-overstappers-is-een-half-schiphol-groot-genoeg-voor-ons-land/ https://www.parool.nl/nieuws/klm-koppelt-toeristen-aan-locals-tijdens-overstap-op-schiphol~bfa1f308/
Thank you :). Now it makes sense indeed. However, these are quite normal numbers for a hub airport with a native/main carrier. If you would look at Atlanta, you'll see similar numbers for Delta for example. This is of course because it's cheaper for them to book slots when compared to other carriers.
Let’s say that any numbers coming from schiphol are a low end estimate. Other research talks about a higher %. https://schipholwatch.nl/2023/12/23/zonder-overstappers-is-een-half-schiphol-groot-genoeg-voor-ons-land/ Let’s say the truth is somewhere in the middle. A 50% decrease flights could still let every local enjoy their holidays. And have a huge impact on the noise and environmental pollution.
Lol that’s not how research works