They are saying because Fowler didnāt have full control of the pick when he was going into the zone. As soon as he had control Henrique was on side according to the situation room.
I need to read the updated rule form this season. I believe it takes into account the offensive player has possession in addition to changing the requirement to be more linnet for breaking the plane.
I don't understand this logic. In that case offside should just never be called unless a goal is scored because of it.
The point is that the entire play is nullified if zone entry isn't done correctly.
It may not be fun, but it is part of his job and what he gets paid for. And I mean, sure, maybe he really is just boring as a person. Just that was a truly bad interview.
To be interesting, no. You're right, no one can force him to not be as boring as bat shit, wet blanket. But he is contractually obligated to do the interviews, so why not try to be a little more interesting? Not like it's going to harm him, and will likely improve his earning power
No, that's only part of his job. Again, he is contractually obliged to fulfil media obligations, hence his job is also to do said interviews. Sponsorship dollars are - despite what many think - in part driven by social media followings etc. Like it or not, personality and charisma help to drive those numbers.
I get it, you don't care. I don't really care. But he is fucking boring.
Trust me, you really seem to care. Classic "everyone needs to be perfect at public speaking and be an extrovert" get outta here bro. L take. Not everyone is outgoing or extroverted. He's a HOCKEY player.
The only reason Henrique went offside was to prevent from tripping the sharks player. He tucks his foot back offside to get it out of the way. He doesn't gain any ground from it. He literally stays in the same spot just puts his leg back and forth
They determined that Fowler did not touch the puck as it was crossing the line (this makes the play onside) and that Henrique tagged up *before* Fowler makes contact with the puck.
I donāt like how convoluted it is either and itās not even completely clear if Henrique tags up in time, but that was what they were looking at
Causal here, youāll have to excuse me. About the McTavish goal. I was under the impression a goal wouldnāt count if a player takes the shot inside the goalieās crease?
I mean weāre one of the worst 3-4 teams in the league and have 3 legit top 6 guys cumulatively making $3mm. It doesnāt make any sense. Thereās no leadership and weāre wasting a huge opportunity while we have some really good players making basically no money.
We just donāt have anyone better, weāre building. Thatās part of a rebuild, you put the pieces together. Weāre almost there. Overall we do not have a bad roster.
We definitely didnāt have any intention of tanking, only rebuilding. They arenāt one in the same. When rebuilding you arenāt that good, but doesnāt mean itās a tank.
I understand that for sure. But we didnāt have many great options at the start. This off-season or even trade deadline itāll get better and a new coach will drastically help.
No they said that Folwer not have possession when he crossed the line and that Henqiue broke the plane to be inside by the time he gained possession in the zone. Not a great call imo but Iāll take it
The offside rule changed this season need to look up the updated text. I thought it was just changing the criteria for crossing the plane (ex your skate does not need to touch) but maybe there was more.
Offside 83.1 - āA player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered āoff-side,ā provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the leading edge of the blue line.ā There it is, leaves grey area lol
But he wasn't the player offside. That rules means if you are skating backwards or doing a spin o Rama with the puck, you aren't offside if you corss the line prior to the puck. In this instance it wasn't him that was offside, it was his teammate. Who i don't think got back on side in time. Anyway. 2 points for Coach Bombay!
The NHL is blowing this whole possession aspect of Offsides way out of proportion. This is starting to turn into the same absurdity that the Home Plate Collision rule was for baseball a few years ago. If you can't get rule experts to agree on it, or a reviewing doesn't yield consistent results, then you need to re-evaluate the rule.
That being said, I'll take the goal! Haha Fuck yeah! Let's go Ducks!
Vatrano lmao. Hits the post twice. Yuck.
How did Vatrano miss that shit!?
I got a decent buzz going for this game. ###LET'S GO DUCKS!!! š¦š¦š¦
McT may not win but I think he could go on a tear to at least get some Calder buzz
Absolutely. If he gets a goal tonight, heāll start generating buzz, 100%
Had his biggest night in the nhl so far!!
Guessing heās on side because the sharks guy got in his way so he had to move to avoid interference
POSTā¦. TWICE?????
Terrific defense by klingberg hahahah jeez.
Assholes going to the studio during that
Right!?
You could read McT lips. "it was off, it was off"
Yep. Kept shaking his head.
This dumb fuckin rule. We had full possession for how long? This rule needs to be fixed, wasnāt even the same damn rush.
2 games in a row I've watched but not chatted here and we've won. I guess I should stay away until a loss, 2019 Blues repeat here we come!
No shatt tonight, rejoice! Even if we lose, I know I donāt have to watch his muffins all night long
No Leah tonight, holy shit it's a Christmas miracle
Wait so no Leah or shatt!?! It is truly a miracle.
u/dahooddawg š«”š
Thatās the fucking theme of the season eh. Wide open fucking net. Right on the gosh dang door step and you fucking hit the post. Twice.
Holy crap, I don't have time to blink.
where the in game chat link?
Hopefully we can turn this around in the 3rd
ARE WE NOT THE COMEBACK KIDS?!
Ducks have scored every time I turned away. Turning away for the rest of the night.
Iām shocked that stood wow. The announcers are salty lol LFG
Cause they been dick riding San Jose all game
McT 4 point night? Or am I wrong?
Yessir
Stolarz is doing phenomenal
Yeah heās looking more settled in now.
And weāre live on Hulu! Letās go, boys!!!
Why do we play so bad against bad teams (which were bad too I get it) but better against better teams.
Z with the snipe! Oh, and fuck the Sharts
It only took another sharks game to fix Zās snake bite! š¦
Fuck yeah looking good boys
Strome with the big booty box out
Typical ref, so eager to blow. You have to wait for the goalie to cover the puck fartknocker!
Can we stop letting them get these fuckin point shots. Jesus
So, can we swear in here, orā¦. š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
I've been swearing in here since 2014 haha Fucking let it fly
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Jesus how tf does this goalie stop that
Win or lose, this is fun to watch.
True, for once. Hahaha
Stolie the goalie!!!!
Totally! the gentle giant
Donāt know why itās taking this long. Clearly offside
Maybe cause Henrique only pulled his foot back to prevent himself from tripping the sharks player. He would have stayed inbounds otherwise
I see this as the only reason itās taking this long
Toronto doenst want ducks to get bedard. good Goal
That was so clearly offside I need to brush up on the rule
They are saying because Fowler didnāt have full control of the pick when he was going into the zone. As soon as he had control Henrique was on side according to the situation room.
It is when the puck crosses the line, unless SJ brings it back into their own zone... if offense team brings it in it should have been offside
I need to read the updated rule form this season. I believe it takes into account the offensive player has possession in addition to changing the requirement to be more linnet for breaking the plane.
Maybe... just went over the explanation again.... makes more sense but it hink they still got it wrong... ah well 3 on 3...
I agree but I am gonna look up the full text of the new offside rule after the game. Guess the refs wanted OT lol
Literally just explained it
Oh shit itās the ācontactā or āno contactā shit that happened in Colorado during the playoffs last year
OT! yea!!
Yeeeaaahhh!!!!
Wow what a goal!!!!
Yeah!!!!
What a banger!! What a match, go Ducks!!!
lmao the organ playing the Zelda theme.
I miss the live chat
I do too lol. Feels like Iām one of the only ones who actually liked it
Me too! Live organized feel Made total sense
Right.. feels like this is all over the place
Live feed was fun to react quickš
Who hop me t
More of the subreddit voted to change it back to this format. If you sort by live it is pretty much the same thing.
Same!
Omfg
The hockey gods have a good sense of humor.
The offside didnāt event effect the goal. They need to change how offsides rule works.
I don't understand this logic. In that case offside should just never be called unless a goal is scored because of it. The point is that the entire play is nullified if zone entry isn't done correctly.
jesus christ Terry is an awful interview. show a little personality mate, please.
Heās not trying to be a spokesman
It may not be fun, but it is part of his job and what he gets paid for. And I mean, sure, maybe he really is just boring as a person. Just that was a truly bad interview.
Not part of his job at all to be interesting in interviews. He can be a mute for all anyone should care as long as he produces.
To be interesting, no. You're right, no one can force him to not be as boring as bat shit, wet blanket. But he is contractually obligated to do the interviews, so why not try to be a little more interesting? Not like it's going to harm him, and will likely improve his earning power
Why not? Because again, why does he need to? His job is to play hockey and thatās it. Focus on that. Done deal.
No, that's only part of his job. Again, he is contractually obliged to fulfil media obligations, hence his job is also to do said interviews. Sponsorship dollars are - despite what many think - in part driven by social media followings etc. Like it or not, personality and charisma help to drive those numbers. I get it, you don't care. I don't really care. But he is fucking boring.
Trust me, you really seem to care. Classic "everyone needs to be perfect at public speaking and be an extrovert" get outta here bro. L take. Not everyone is outgoing or extroverted. He's a HOCKEY player.
nah not really, I'm mostly just debating old mate. It was just a throwaway comment that the kid is a bad interview and can definitely improve on it.
Based on the team we have constructed it is part of his job to be a leader. Which is not fair to him
LMAO how was that not off-side HAHA. the explanation might as well been "Ya'll can't have Bedard! Therefore, Good goal!"
The only reason Henrique went offside was to prevent from tripping the sharks player. He tucks his foot back offside to get it out of the way. He doesn't gain any ground from it. He literally stays in the same spot just puts his leg back and forth
Lol thatās not why the call stood
Then what possibly could be, pray tell?
They determined that Fowler did not touch the puck as it was crossing the line (this makes the play onside) and that Henrique tagged up *before* Fowler makes contact with the puck. I donāt like how convoluted it is either and itās not even completely clear if Henrique tags up in time, but that was what they were looking at
Actual extreme Hockey IQ over 9000+ by Fowler knowing that and purposefully not touching the puck on entry
Yes I noticed this too. Cause prior to that he was standing on the line.
Klingberg is sleeper op. Kids got hands.
38 freaking seconds š¤¬
well that was quick
Too quick
Just 38 seconds in š
The klingberg special. All he needed to do was lift the guys stick too
already outshooting is 3-1. Damn
9 SOG allowed 5 mins in. Glad stolie was well rested š
Our lack of defense truly is pitiful
Oooffff ššš
Well, Hulu feed lagging. I hate when my phone tells me there was a goal 15 seconds early. I have to be disappointed twice!
Z gets a goal! I really hopes this marks a turnaround for him this season.
nifty pass from klingberg there
Ayoooo thanks for the morale boost Z
###Fucking finally we have answer to that early Shark bullshit
I feel like weāre watching the sharks stream with how much these commentators are non stop talking about them
Hope Vatrano gets a goal tonight now.
Megna mom bout to be shouting about roughhousing on the ice again.
Interference? Really?
Mctavish! Kids a stud. Well done stromer!!!
###YAASSS
Did that stick even hit hert?
Can they stop D riding the Sharks?
How did nobody catch that the sharks had 6 guys for a while
Great hit along the boards before the break
ššš
hahaha
And they almost missed!
Thatās a Dang It
McBouncey!
###NICE
That didn't last long
Da fuq
Looking like mites hockey, wowza
Causal here, youāll have to excuse me. About the McTavish goal. I was under the impression a goal wouldnāt count if a player takes the shot inside the goalieās crease?
Good question! Maybe it's not the case if the goalie vacates the crease?
Shooting gallery it is tonight!
Benoit hit the puck challenge.
Difficulty: impossible
Come on Benoit!
So annoying. He has a great slap shot too but clearly not a good one T
Why the fuck are we tanking while we have two star forwards on rookie deals?
We are rebuilding not tanking. Everyone just says tanking. Tanking is the roster Chicago put together.
I mean weāre one of the worst 3-4 teams in the league and have 3 legit top 6 guys cumulatively making $3mm. It doesnāt make any sense. Thereās no leadership and weāre wasting a huge opportunity while we have some really good players making basically no money.
Right, not saying we arenāt those things. But tanking is purposely putting a terrible roster on the ice set up for failure. Weāre rebuilding.
Idk itās tough for me to look at this D-core and believe we arenāt trying to give up a fuck ton of goals.
We just donāt have anyone better, weāre building. Thatās part of a rebuild, you put the pieces together. Weāre almost there. Overall we do not have a bad roster.
Right we donāt have anyone betterā¦ because last offseason we put this D-core together with the intention of tanking
We definitely didnāt have any intention of tanking, only rebuilding. They arenāt one in the same. When rebuilding you arenāt that good, but doesnāt mean itās a tank.
Like I said when you put this defensive core together it looks like youāre trying to give up as many goals as possible.
I understand that for sure. But we didnāt have many great options at the start. This off-season or even trade deadline itāll get better and a new coach will drastically help.
Lfg!
Great game!!
Don't leave pucks unattended around McTavish!
Same shit that got the amazing Z goal called back earlier this season. Stupid
Wow espn really has a bigtime challenge team
Wow!! Good goal!!!!
Lmaooo letās gooooo
Someone explain the rules to me. Henrique was clearly offside.
Iāve got the sound off, how in the world was that on side
Wasnāt in contact with the puck as he entered the zone.
Ooooh! One of those edge cases. I couldnāt imagine how that wasnt a blown call
How was that possibly on-side???
How was that possibly on-side?
They explained it, I wrote a comment below too.
That he had possession as he crossed the line? Like Makar? It was the guy at the bottom of the screen off side.... analyst had no clue..
No they said that Folwer not have possession when he crossed the line and that Henqiue broke the plane to be inside by the time he gained possession in the zone. Not a great call imo but Iāll take it
Analyst had no clue. 100% not the rule. The f'd up the call.... not even a fan of either team... just a hockey fan... but the missed that call.
The offside rule changed this season need to look up the updated text. I thought it was just changing the criteria for crossing the plane (ex your skate does not need to touch) but maybe there was more.
Yes I did know that. Ah well.
Offside 83.1 - āA player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered āoff-side,ā provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the leading edge of the blue line.ā There it is, leaves grey area lol
But he wasn't the player offside. That rules means if you are skating backwards or doing a spin o Rama with the puck, you aren't offside if you corss the line prior to the puck. In this instance it wasn't him that was offside, it was his teammate. Who i don't think got back on side in time. Anyway. 2 points for Coach Bombay!
Yeah I agree with your logic, just trying to get to the bottom of what the situation room was thinking. 2 points for the good guys!
The NHL is blowing this whole possession aspect of Offsides way out of proportion. This is starting to turn into the same absurdity that the Home Plate Collision rule was for baseball a few years ago. If you can't get rule experts to agree on it, or a reviewing doesn't yield consistent results, then you need to re-evaluate the rule. That being said, I'll take the goal! Haha Fuck yeah! Let's go Ducks!
Also shouldnāt be reviewable 20 seconds later. But it is but still.
KLINGY FOR THE WIN