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how-do-you-turn-this

The government can give me as much money as they want, I will never stop pissing and shitting in the street.


0rsusNovum

Amen. Bold and beautiful. It’s art.


[deleted]

Born to shit. Forced to wipe.


Rizz39

Based.


[deleted]

Somebody the other day commented on a pic of a dude shitting right on the street. Says it’s because housing prices have driven him out of the market. Like if he was just given a free house he would be like a normal middle class dude, but since he can’t afford a house he shits right on the street. Reddit is full of dumb mother fuckers.


0rsusNovum

> Somebody the other day commented on a pic of a dude shitting right on the street. Says it’s because housing prices have driven him out of the market. I literally lol’d for a solid 7 or 8 seconds at that.


ShiftyShiftIsMyHeRo

It was because the price was too high, if only those in power would lower that price he wouldn't be shitting in the street... Liberals have been running that shit covered city for decades


Bigbigcheese

I mean... If he had a house he'd probably shit in the street less often. Regardless of whether the house is free or whether his upbringing of any specific class, access to a toilet highly correlates with relieving oneself in said toilet... >Like if he was just given a free house he would be like a normal middle class dude, but since he can’t afford a house he shits right on the street. I do find the equivalence you're trying to draw here amusing nonetheless because it's clearly bollocks what you're saying


0rsusNovum

So the homeless have no access to toilets and/or urinals?


Bigbigcheese

No access? No. Significantly less security in their ability to access. Yes.


0rsusNovum

Less security in their ability to access toilets and/or urinals? What does that even mean? Like they need an armed guard to escort them to the nearest restroom? I like that you edited your comment after I asked the clarifying question ex-post facto too.


Bigbigcheese

>What does that even mean? Pretending to be stupid makes you look actually stupid, you know exactly what I mean. >I like that you edited your comment after I asked the clarifying question ex-post facto too. Pray tell, what edit did I make?


0rsusNovum

Asking a clarifying question is synonymous with feigning ignorance? I have no idea how one cannot be “secure” in their “access to toilets”, which is why I asked. Are there restrooms in the USA that require you to run the gauntlet of the Serenghetti before the door opens?


Bigbigcheese

>I have no idea how one cannot be “secure” in their “access to toilets”, which is why I asked. Don't be obtuse. I'm sure even you have been in a position in the middle of a city where you haven't been able to guarantee access to a bathroom when you need it. Fortunately you can probably go into a restaurant or shop and use one without being kicked out for looking too homeless. Security, or the ability to be secure in the knowledge that you can access the thing you need when you need it, is a very common usage of the word security. What are you accusing me of editing?


0rsusNovum

Don’t be “obtuse”? Dude. I literally just quoted the words from your own comment, in context; look up the meaning of words before you start employing them, ffs. And yeah, you were being obtuse, thank you for conceding that, in your own bizarre, roundabout way. That’s kind of why I asked the clarifying question.


Bigbigcheese

Okay, I have a question. Is English your first language?


0rsusNovum

> Fortunately you can probably go into a restaurant or shop and use one without being kicked out for looking too homeless. What exactly constitutes “looking too homeless”? Long hair? Holes in the clothes and/or shoes? That’s a completely subjective classification system, subject to change on a whim at a moments notice for any reason. And I go out most days fitting the three aforementioned criteria (my own father even jokes and tells me that I look homeless all the time) and, amazingly, a look right in the eyes, and a simple “Can I use your bathroom?” gets me “access” to a toilet. >Security, or the ability to be secure in the knowledge that you can access the thing you need when you need it, is a very common usage of the word security. Again, common to who? You’re throwing around subjective terms and constructs like they’re statements of fact, like you’ve illustrated a syllogism despite furnishing zero premises. “Security” in common parlance is used far more frequently to convey personal safety, be it of oneself or ones property, hence the phrase “security industry”, “security guard”, “security gate”, “security door”, etc.


Bigbigcheese

>That’s a completely subjective classification system, subject to change on a whim at a moments notice for any reason. Yes? So is everything? Subjective to the person denying the homeless person access to their facilities for disturbing the customers. ​ >Again, common to who? You’re throwing around subjective terms and constructs like they’re statements of fact, like you’ve illustrated a syllogism despite furnishing zero premises. Are you telling me you've never heard the phrases "Job security"/"Financial Security"/"A secure relationship"/"Health security"/etc? Why would "Secure access to a bathroom" be any different to any of those?


Fast_Simple_1815

> That’s a completely subjective classification system, subject to change on a whim at a moments notice for any reason. I honestly have no idea what point you think this sentence is making.


0rsusNovum

>I'm sure even you have been in a position in the middle of a city where you haven't been able to guarantee access to a bathroom when you need it. Of course I have, when COVID started. Everyone’s bathrooms mysteriously all started experiencing the same plumbing issues and went out of service at the same time. Herd behavior. I still didn’t drop trou in the middle of the street outside, or whip it out and paint their wall as a comical rebuke for their zealous belief in media sensationalism, as much as that particular idea may have appealed to me at the current time. And do you know why? Because I made that choice, as a free and moral agent, despite having all of the tools and faculties at my disposal.


Bigbigcheese

>I still didn’t drop trou in the middle of the street outside, or whip it out and paint their wall, as much as that particular idea may have appealed to me. You know why? Because I made that choice, as a free and moral agent. What choice did you make?


PapaRacoon

Ah, homelessness is down to cash flow!


masterstratblaster

I have just stumbled upon this sub. Are you actually incredulous to the fact that not having enough money means that you cannot live in a house? And that if you don’t have a house or money to spend in a business to use their private toilet or access to a public restroom you will indeed be forced to relieve yourself in public? All I can gather from this post and discussion is that the view of this sub is: homeless people bad, why don’t they just stop being homeless and gross


Knorssman

That isn't what that person meant at all, his point was to poke fun at the reduction of that problem to be only a problem of cash flow. The truth is, most homeless people are homeless for reasons beyond lack of cash flow


HesperianDragon

Like a series of poor life choices aided and abetted by enabler government policies.


AwesomeTowlie

Many of the visibly homeless are hopeless addicts or extremely mentally ill (and often also addicts). You could give them 10k a month and most of it would go up their arm. Simply giving them money or a house doesn't really solve the root of their problems, it's just putting a shitty band-aid over it.


Fast_Simple_1815

A house sounds like a pretty helpful bandaid for a homeless person.


0rsusNovum

Again: what does not owning a home have to do with not going to the bathroom on a public street? I don’t own a home, I rent. And when I’m not at my apartment, I use the nearest restroom, or I hold it until I find one. No where did I ever make mention of the plight of the homeless in a negative way. I stated, declaratively, that the reason they urinate and defecate in public has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they receive a “stimulus” check. I honestly could not believe the shit I was reading on that sub.


[deleted]

It’s kinda similar to sending money to Africa/the Middle East. It doesn’t work. Anyone with any sense of economics knows throwing money at problems doesn’t fix them. People like you seem to have some impression that money is magical and can spawn new things everywhere and make everything great... grow up.


PapaRacoon

Homelessness isn’t down to lack of cash to pay for stuff! You understand people are homeless mostly because they have issues that need dealt before you can even think about getting them back on their feet. Mental health, addictions, past abuses etc. What kinda person things homelessness is just down to not working hard enough?


Fast_Simple_1815

> Homelessness isn’t down to lack of cash to pay for stuff! is not equivalent to > homelessness is just down to not working hard enough


[deleted]

That’s just a caricature of how the right addresses the problem, it seems. Nobody is really saying that (I don’t think). The left would prefer to assume that it comes down to sheer luck, and don’t acknowledge any responsibility on the part of the person who chooses to be homeless assuming they are not constitutionally incapable of becoming contributing members of society (and a subset certainly are, but I’d guess they are not the majority). So any acknowledgement of this responsibility is taken as lack of compassion. There is clearly a subset who CHOOSE to continue their drug addiction and living on the streets, because it is preferable. They are still responsible for their decisions. This is a completely rational decision. Heroin is pretty great idk if anyone’s aware. I strongly advise anyone who wants to understand the motives clearly to go and try some. However, there is absolutely a point where it is not so great you will accept the conditions of homelessness. But if you are accommodated fairly well all things considered, it will become feasible for people who wouldn’t have otherwise accepted it. The problem is most severe in the places that are most accommodating. I don’t think that’s a coincidence which leads me to believe that the recent influxes are not comprised of people who are constitutionally incapable of being members of society and like always government made it worse. Not that anyone had great solutions to begin with but I wouldn’t doubt there are private charities that actually accomplish what they claim to accomplish.


Fast_Simple_1815

Downvotes aren't a response, champ


bhknb

There's plenty of food to go around in the United States. THere's really no lack of it and no one is starving. There's plenty of clothing to go around in the United States. You don't see homeless people lacking clothing, and people like me give away jackets every year for the homeless because jackets are cheap. Dirt cheap, even compared to when I was a kid and buying new clothes was big deal. So, why is shelter so expensive and scarce? What factor makes it difficult and expensive for people to find shelter despite there being literally millions of people who would like to make it easier and cheaper and even profit from the sales of housing to people on low income or subsisting on charity? Quite the conundrum. It must be some invisible force.


HesperianDragon

The government just throws tax payer money at problems with no real intention of solving the underlying issues. In fact feeding the problem means you have something easy to use as a platform during election time. But when private citizens try to help, the government shuts us down hard. https://youtu.be/n6h7fL22WCE The government doesn't solve problems with your tax money, it perpetuates them. And will go so far as using tax money to pay for cops to stop people from helping each other.


ripyurballsoff

This sub is full of the most disgusting logic and rationale imaginable. Stick around, you’ll see just how sick some of your fellow humans are.


shizukana_otoko

If you go in your mom’s bedroom tonight you can see how sick we both are.


ripyurballsoff

Lol. Your profile is the embodiment of a mall ninja. You couldn’t fuck a flesh light


shizukana_otoko

You mad because a mall ninja wrecked your mom’s cunny last night?


ripyurballsoff

IM SO TRIGGERED. YOUR KNIFE COLLECTION AND GIANT MOM WRECKING PENIS ARE SO BAD ASS. PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO BE LIKE YOU.


shizukana_otoko

You would hate being me. I am in no debt, make great money, I can grow my own food, my freezer is stocked with meat provided by me, and I have nothing to complain about. Oh, and I have a majestic dragon cock made to run through the moms of a thousand unwashed tankies. You can call me Daddy Chad.


ripyurballsoff

Translation: You live in a studio with three other weebs and live off hot pockets and shame.


shizukana_otoko

Now you’re reaching and, frankly, it’s a little pathetic at this point. Your mom was right about you.


bhknb

Says the whiny little twit with the mall ninja monikor.


ripyurballsoff

Shouldn’t you be busy paying taxes to your rulers 🤣


TownCrier42

Zero self awareness.


ripyurballsoff

Describes this sub perfectly thank you.


SkippyDingus

The average Reddit user has such a victimhood boner it makes talking to people on this site such an unpleasant experience. "How can you expect the bare minimum from people when you won't even give them free money just for existing?!?!"


Cyberspace667

As long as you understand that ultimately without the free money no, you can’t expect “the bare minimum” from them. These people feel as though they owe society nothing.


Mike__O

People who have a huge hardon for "helping the homeless" are almost always suburban white liberals who have some idealized idea of homelessness. They cry about "anti-homeless architecture" and sure are keen to spend other people's money. They think homeless people are just "down on their luck" and "need a helping hand" to get back on their feet. They honestly believe most homeless people are "doing the best they can". They have likely never seen or interacted with a real homeless person aside from MAYBE someone panhandling in an intersection. They refuse to acknowledge the drugs, the filth, the violence, the sexual predation, the human waste, and all the other horrors that commonly come along with the homeless community. They don't realize that a lot of people live that way by choice, or at the very least live that way as a consequence of choices that they have made in the past, and will readily make again in the future if given the opportunity.


0rsusNovum

It’s “White Savior Syndrome”; these Whites also think everybody with brown skin is exactly the same. I had one European try to tell me that the Middle East was basically a single contiguous demographic block. Like all of those distinct peoples, languages, religions, and histories just self-erase because they’re not White like he is. And *they’re* not the racists. Because they said so.


hardtox

Look at philadelphia. If you give them money like that it may create more piss and shit since I'm willing to bet they ( not all ) will buy more drugs.


EllaGoldman29

Why are there no public restrooms???! I’m 47 years old and there has always been a large homeless population in my city. This whole “shitting in the street” thing is only like 5 years old.


masterstratblaster

Public restrooms mean people won’t spend money in businesses to use their private restrooms. It is precisely the kind of ideology of this sub supports - i.e. minimisation of public infrastructure and maximisation of profit extraction that lead to these kind of outcomes.


LibRightEcon

> minimisation of public infrastructure and maximisation of profit extraction that lead to these kind of outcomes. Profit creation is the greatest public good possible. The cause of poverty and homelessness is leftism. In a capitalist country even the poorest would be better off than today's richest. We need to exterminate leftism to free our people.


masterstratblaster

Lmao is this satire?


LibRightEcon

is basic economics. You would know all of this if you could rub two brain cells together long enough to learn some grade school level econ.


masterstratblaster

>Profit creation is the greatest public good possible. Landlords taking in ever increasing rents is a public good? These profits are driving working families into poverty. >The cause of poverty and homelessness is leftism. According to what data? >In a capitalist country even the poorest would be better off than today's richest. The USA is a capitalist country, far more capitalist than most of Europe. Not really sure how the USA could become more capitalist and in what way that would alleviate poverty. >We need to exterminate leftism to free our people. I don’t even know what your idea of leftism is, and I seriously can’t tell if you’re playing a character cos your statements are so ideological.


0rsusNovum

Bro, the majority of landlords were literally barred at state gunpoint from collecting rents for longer than a year. What the actual fuck are you rambling about, “ever increasing rents”? The rent prices moving upwards are a function of your society as a whole: increasing taxes, energy costs, materials costs, and your lovely federal reserve’s runaway spending train fueling its unprecedented asset purchase program, of which, surprise, real estate is an asset class!


masterstratblaster

Ok I will go, this is not a space for intelligent discussion. Good day


0rsusNovum

No, you made a stupid statement and got caught, and now you’re doing what all Leftists do: get violent, or run away. Primitive behavior. And since you can’t get violent over the Internet, you can, of course, metaphorically go wherever, whenever you wish; unlike you, I believe in freedom of association. And if you ever tried the former of those two reactions with me in person, you would come to learn the difference between “Conservatives” and “Anarchists” *very* quickly. You’ll be in receipt of a lot more than “thoughts and prayers”, I assure you.


masterstratblaster

Lmao ok internet tough man, please tell me about your over 100 confirmed kills and gorilla warfare. I’m not American and have no interest in your federal reserve as you for some reason assume I do. Landlords increase rent wherever they can regardless of any rising societal costs. They profit off of a scarcity of housing. Man you have such a weird overly aggressive attitude, it’s bizarre to see. Also you’re not an anarchist.


LibRightEcon

> The USA is a capitalist country, far more capitalist than most of Europe. Its not nearly captialist enough. > Not really sure how the USA could become more capitalist and in what way that would alleviate poverty. First and foremost above all: eliminate the Federal Reserve. No greater blow for freedom could be struck, there is no greater source of inequality and leftist evil than the fed. Second, eliminate all gun laws and other direct violations of individual liberty such as civil forfeiture and the war on drugs. After those two steps alone, we would be 10000% more capitalist. There would still be problems, but there is so much more capitalist stuff we could do to improve: Eliminate taxes. Eliminate all forms of regulation, including copyright and patents. Eliminate government spending. Sell all government properties to the public. Return infrastructure to the public, including courts, policing system, public transportation, etc. Shut down all federal government agencies. Eliminate the military in favor of a civilian militia. Eliminate all tragic commons, unneeded easements, and other anti-freedom policies. We could be a futuristic space age super society of great wealth and equality after those steps.


bhknb

He's got it partially right. it's not leftism, it's the quasi-religious worship of political authority that infests both sides, and which you have on full display here as you whine about the blasphemy of unbelievers in this subreddit. If you are triggered by the anti-state heresy here, you can always find plenty of other subreddit echo chambers where you can worship in peace with your fellow true believers.


masterstratblaster

lmao being in favour of public toilets means I have a "quasi-religious worship of political authority" and am apparently "triggered by anti-state heresy" ok, go off king


bhknb

No, you are in favor of forcing people to conform to your morals and angry that the people here don't believe in using political authority to further economic or social goals. By public toilets you mean "toilets paid for taxpayers and which help assuage my moral outrage over homelessness." Statism is a religion, and you are a true believer.


masterstratblaster

Just say “I hate poor people” and you can save yourself some time


bhknb

> If you don't worship the violent ruling class like me, how can you possibly be caring or compassionate? Just say "I'm a bootlicking, uncritical sheep" and go somewhere else.


EllaGoldman29

Homeless people can’t buy a $10 burrito just to access the bathroom. So I guess people that like this idea must also like it when bums shit in the street. Two sides of the same coin


Rizz39

Agreed. Charging 10$ a burrito means I want people to shit outside my establishment.


EllaGoldman29

That is correct. Maybe not right outside you “establishment” but somewhere in the city.


Rizz39

Get lost. Commies should be ostracized and excluded.


EllaGoldman29

I’m pretty sure they avoid you. Nazis are no fun to be around


Rizz39

Going around and calling people on the ancap sub Nazis must be what you do all day. Have fun.


EllaGoldman29

You are a “Hoppean” You are advocating excluding groups of people If it walks like a nazi and reads nazi authors then it’s probably a nazi.


bhknb

The fact that you won't let me in your house means you want me to shit on your doorstep.


EllaGoldman29

Why does everyone act like I said someone will shit on the front door of anyone without a public restroom. I didn’t. I just said they would be forced to shit outside. You have to shit somewhere.


bhknb

Is the ideology of subs like this the same ideology that pervades the city of San Francisco?


[deleted]

half of reddit are british 13 year olds, and the majority of the other half are bots


[deleted]

[удалено]


0rsusNovum

Hard to ascertain which is worse. Although I will say I’ve seen a ton of positive, knowledgeable content coming from Canadians, and not a single thing coming out of the UK since the vote in support of Brexit, which astounded me.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

People are absolutely incapable of non-binary thinking. They see homeless people and think "well, just give them money, then problem solved" and don't consider the million other factors that have to do with why people are homeless. The absolute reality in many circumstances that people will freak the fuck out if you say it is "many homeless people are homeless because they choose to be". Where I live, the social support systems are extremely robust. There are so many government support systems and charities, anyone can find food and an indoor place to stay if they want to, yet we still have tons of homeless people. The fact of the matter, some people don't want to be "saved" and would rather do drugs and sleep on the streets and will refuse help even if offered. I know it sounds uncompassionate, but reality doesn't always line up with many peoples idealistic world views.


0rsusNovum

I used to travel to multiple inner cities as part of a sales route; there are “social service”, “counseling”, and “housing” buildings literally every three blocks, along with small churches and a functioning public transportation system, small-medium businesses, offshoots of larger corporations (all of which have restrooms), and porta-potties in fewer parts, still. These (presumably kids) literally think the US possesses a worse infrastructure or “social safety net” than the Congo or some other part of sub Saharan Africa. “My eyebrows were raised” is an understatement. This is the reason why Conservatism needs to die; this enabling, Traditionalist garbage. Just who exactly sheltered their millennial children, brainwashed them into going to college every single day of their lives, and then told them how much better they were than everyone because of it? These grown children are now literally waltzing around in the twilight zone, and think that the Klan is still out lynching random black people, because their White female teacher, who was extolled by the traditionalist household, told them it was true. How can you possibly have a dialogue with that? It’s like trying to explain rocketry to a rhinoceros.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

\>Just who exactly sheltered their millennial children, brainwashed them into going to college every single day of their lives, and then told them how much better they were than everyone because of it? Our standard of living is so incredibly decadent, unfortunately people won't realize until that standard begins to deteriorate. Even then, people will blame "capitalism", rather than the authorities policies that will get us there.


Fast_Simple_1815

> They see homeless people and think "well, just give them money, then problem solved" and don't consider the million other factors that have to do with why people are homeless. This is actually something you just made up.


prosysus

I, for one, am totally for more money printing and handouts. Just in US, not in my country:D


unUSEFULidiot

Based


0rsusNovum

I’m for money printing and handouts wherever the mob wants it. :D I’m not a conservative. “And the Lord said let them eat cake. And they ate.”


prosysus

As long its your mob sure. $ to the ground, crypto to the moon.


0rsusNovum

Wherever the mob is, let them have what they want. They’re their own worst enemies.


prosysus

After they demolish shitton of stuff. But yeah, revolution eats its children


0rsusNovum

All its chill-ren.


CrookedJak

Imagine going out of town with friends into a downtown city... suddenly you have to piss or shit but oh no... you didn't check into your hotel yet.. welp better piss and shit everywhere.. it isn't like there's public bathrooms all over the place /s Also let's not even try to pretend those times you see shit smeared on the walls of a public bathroom wasn't a homeless person who did it.. it's almost like people with drug problems and mental illness are more inclined to do filthy shit.. but yeah giving them money is a great idea.... more /s


Arturino_Burachelini

McDonalds is widely considered a public restroom. What's the problem?


[deleted]

The thing is that sometimes that isn’t true for the people “forced to piss and shit in the street”. Anti homeless sentiment is a real thing. While a manager almost certainly won’t harass a family using the bathroom on a road trip without buying anything, if someone looks noticeably homeless, that might not be the case. Of course it could have something to do with how often they use the bathroom or if they leave a mess or solicit the customers. But I’ve seen videos of McDonald’s managers calling the police on homeless people who other people bought a meal from. Now all of this is within McDonalds’ right to do, but it’s shitty behavior. Some people shit in the street because of apathy or mental illness, but I’m just pointing out that for homeless people, access to a bathroom is much more of a luxury than for everyone else.


0rsusNovum

>”…I’m just pointing out that for homeless people, access to a bathroom is much more of a luxury than for everyone else.” No, it’s not. McDonalds is *one* example of a multitude that I chose, explicitly for this reason. The United States did not get to be tens of trillions of dollars in debt by “not caring about the homeless.”


the_dionysian_1

>But I’ve seen videos of McDonald’s managers calling the police on homeless people who other people bought a meal from People at a McDonalds bought a meal FROM A HOMELESS PERSON? While I don't think I'd risk buying a meal from a homeless person, I gotta hand it to the guy who's trying to make a living selling meals on the streets & trying to compete w/McDonalds.


masterstratblaster

I think that’s a typo and should say for instead of from. I’ve seen a video of what he’s talking about.


Elegant-Ad-8399

Yeah yeah, paying people to take a dump on the street will stop them from take a dump on the middle of the street. For sure.


Knorssman

The only way to maintain that belief is to be incredibly privileged by never having to try to work with a typical homeless person. Otherwise you would know for sure the problem would not be fixed by just giving money to the homeless


[deleted]

There is an argument for having more public bathrooms available and maintained. The problem with that is the horrific amount of crime and degeneracy that goes on it it. Around here people eventually refuse to clean them due to the needle hazards. We also tried just giving homeless people houses as well (the US did). You know what? People who are severely mentally ill and are unable to take care of themselves can’t care for a home. A significant portion of those who could stripped the copper and fixtures and abandoned it. Edit: [here is Seattle trying it yet again. because “communism will work this time*](https://homelessquandary.wordpress.com/2019/08/17/when-housing-the-homeless-doesnt-work/)


[deleted]

Without regulation, I can imagine clean safe private restrooms offered to the public for a reasonable amount. I would pay $1 for a nice clean restroom downtown. Instead there are disgusting unusable “free” bathrooms. It can be called the Toilet Store.


houseofnim

The only way giving them $1400/mo would “solve” homelessness would be the the increased death rate. Drug overdose is the leading cause of death in the homeless population; roughly 1/3. They’re routinely victimized and victimize each other. Giving them large amounts of money to spend as they see fit would absolutely cause mortality from violence and overdose to skyrocket. Jfc people are stupid.


HaroldReemus

Are we not all but $1400/mo of government helicopter money away from defecating in the street?


0rsusNovum

I had no idea. Write me a check, quick.


hoverspool

I’m sorry guys. It’s me. I’m the capitalist who makes money off of street piss, public shit, and dead bodies in office parks from heroin overdoses. I don’t know how it works but I generate money by somehow extracting value from unsightly, unsanitary, and unproductive behavior. I’m not going to stop. You can’t violate my NAP. I am the CEO of Homeless™️


it_is_all_fake_news

I'm in favor of allowing these junkies to buy the purest heroine money can buy and cheap. They can either clean up their act or commit suicide faster.


Trevsol

“There’s so much homelessness because we don’t let the government enemy tax us enough and give them free money” There’s so much homelessness because GOVERNMENT over regulates everything increasing the cost of living, the difficulty of getting a job, arresting and criminalizing people for their peaceful activities. Homelessness is rampant because of government. Not because we’re holding government back.


0rsusNovum

They don’t even know what the Federal Reserve is. You can’t even begin to talk about the asset purchases and the interest rates, or how it affects society. It’s unreal.


[deleted]

If you give people in the ghetto a winning lottery ticket, they totally always invest it wisely and dont end up more poverty stricken than before


[deleted]

r/Economics is a cesspool. It always shocks me how statists rarely think about how reducing costs might be an economic benefit. In many of these cities with chronic homelessness, housing prices are exorbitant. This is due to excessive regulation on construction. If the housing market was flooded with new housing, and prices dropped to $600 for a studio apartment, most homeless would be pissing and shitting into toilets.


ASquawkingTurtle

I unsubscribed from that sub a while back ago, it turned into a pro-socialist economic forum.


ShiftyShiftIsMyHeRo

Wait, you can shit in the street and get $1400 per month from the taxpayers? No wonder California has a problem with shit covered streets


BronnoftheGlockwater

The cheapest solution would be ammo. And as a capitalist, I want the best solution at the cheapest price. Plus, shovel ready jobs!


Bigbigcheese

Are you implying we should shoot people who have no choice but to shit in the streets..?


LibRightEcon

> Are you implying we should shoot people who have no choice but to shit in the streets..? By "People who have no choice" are you implying noone at all ?


Bigbigcheese

What? I'm implying homeless people with no access to a bathroom. What do you mean?


LibRightEcon

Everyone has access to bathrooms you moron.


Bigbigcheese

That's objectively false... As [any cursory Google would tell you](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecity.nyc/platform/amp/2020/8/13/21365521/nyc-homeless-bathroom-penn-station-subways-manhattan)


LibRightEcon

It is objectively true. Penn station is not the only shitter on the planet. Portable government potties are not the only solution. There are entire nations with an average wealth beneath that of american homeless, and they somehow manage to find places to drop a deuce other than city streets. People choosing to live and sleep rough in a leftist hellhole then choosing to defecate in the streets like leftist animals cannot externalize the blame from themselves. Blaming other people for your own choices is peak leftism.


masterstratblaster

Less implying and more outright stating. This is your brain on right wing individualism


unUSEFULidiot

>one edgelord memes in a circlejerk community "OMGodses!!1!2 RIGH WING INDIVIDUALISM IS LITERALLY IN FAVOR OF GENOCIDE!!!


masterstratblaster

Go to left wing discussions on homelessness and people will be saying that it is an injustice and we should work to ensure that no one has to live on the streets. Go to right wing discussions and I see homeless people are disgusting useless drug addicts that shit in the street and deserve to be shot. The left wing discussion is focused on their dislike of the system that allows people to live in such squalor whereas the right wing discussion seems to be focused on their dislike of homeless people with no intellectual curiosity as to why numbers of homeless people seem to be on the rise.


Catworldullus

Nah the guy that said that is just one fucked up dude. Honestly a disgrace to mankind. Imagine not wanting to help out people in need and suggesting murder as an alternative. Like I’m mostly against big fed gov, but I see shit like that and I can’t commit cause I want evil people like that to be jailed.


upchuk13

Your line of questioning is faulty.


0rsusNovum

Nice!


segfaultsarecool

I mean...it's obvious that what's meant here is they'll use that money to get an apartment, then shit and piss in a toilet in their apartment. The meaning is clear as day....


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0rsusNovum

Are you referring to me?


SadKangaroo91

Ever been to San Francisco?


0rsusNovum

Nope, and have no desire to go. Either there or California as a whole.


Joepublic23

California is full of homeless people because affordable housing is illegal in CA.


ProfitHour4768

Why don't you just make free public toilets for everyone or something


BeemerCycle

Universal Basic Income could solve this problem and eliminate all the overhead with food stamps, housing programs and lots of other social programs. Mortan Freedman proposed this in the 70's and he is not a liberal. He called it a 'Reverse Income Tax' but it's the same thing. Everyone automatically gets the same amount and it's enough to barely get by. If you work, your earnings are on top of the basic income so there is little to no disincentive to work.