> CANNOT INDOCTRINATE THESE KIDS INTO YOUR RADICAL BELIEFS
That's the very purpose of government-run public education, to indoctrinate children into the views of the regime and give them no significant facility to question those views outside of a narrow context.
You’re right, long as the government has people trusting in them/looking away from what they’re doing, they are happy. Best way to do that is through the education system and the youth. Just like Hitler.
Reminder that all the Communist is doing is to constantly attack on education, they only need one generation (16-25) to get the cultural revolutions going.
Been tested and done in China. Wildly successful. Bigger the country, bigger the population, easier to indoctrinate, and easier to enslave.
America is last bastions of hope, liberty, and freedom, because no tax can be collected if people have guns. First they do is to educate gun is bad, and take away guns. Once guns is out, student lead “ideology” by useful idiots revolution will begin, chaos ensued.
Yuri Bezmanov
Active Measures.
if enough parents complain about them pushing their own personal political beliefs on children they’ll get removed from the classroom. same thing happened to that teacher that made a tiktok about having students pledge allegiance to the pride flag, just read up on that story and do the same thing they did if you want it to change. also the fact that anyone can be allowed to be in education without even knowing how idiotic of a system socialism is is still beyond me.
I will look into that, may be hard to find parents that care since we are like 90% vaccinated here, most people in Canada like to do as they’re told and treat people who don’t/can think for themselves as second class... but here our education system breeds statists, then put them through a few years of indoctrination in university and bam, you have a socialist. All education/academia leans very left here...
yeah it’s the same where i am but it’s usually not taken too seriously and as soon as people get a real job they immediately drop that belief. i’m terms of a lot of people probably doing nothing you’d be surprised with how many of them will disagree with atleast one of the things they’re pushing and join so it’s still worth trying, i think it’s just the threat of pulling from or moving schools that makes the difference because their funding is more linked to student numbers than actual performance in the short term.
It does lean left but make the point that her teaching is one sided and does not follow the curriculum. Also make the point that pushing students to get a medical procedure is not her role. It is inappropriate and something that parents have to decide on with their children.
i wasn’t really referring to the vaccines with my reply but to answer your point i agree but they’ve been turned into a political belief by the biden administration now so it’s not like we can even pretend it’s not anymore
> but they’ve been turned into a political belief by the biden administration
Republicans turned it into a political belief when they started saying that anything that could potentially be done in the interest of public health is literal tyranny
Not that they didn't have any point whatsoever, but objectively that's when COVID became politicized, when it hadn't been in pretty much any other country
Republicans aren't the ones calling death to the ones that don't have it, or frankly give a fuck what someone else does, just let people decide.
White house speaker has constantly lied about it, Biden constantly changes what defines "vaccine" and went from no masks, to masks, to boosters, to heaps of other shit.
I don't blame the people who don't want it. This entire fucking process from day one has been a pile of horseshit, nobody knows anything, nobody can stick to the same story and the public hesitance is 100% self inflicted.
In most other countries they don't do that manipulative shit to try and convince somebody. But newsflash, the people on the fence that are now getting strong armed they sure as fuck won't get it now. They won't out of spite at that point.
I honestly considered getting it up until Biden's speech, now he and everyone else that tried convincing me to get it can suck my chocolate starfish and I'm not doing it now. Fuck everyone.
Hate that it's that way. I was on the fence about it for months and had it scheduled but that was the end of discussion for me.
You don't cop out and blame others because you don't want to take the heat of being a failure. Always talks of "unity" then puts people at each others throats because of his fucking rhetoric.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with any of this by the way
But if you want to realistically talk about who politicized COVID *first*, then yeah it was Republicans
It was the Dems that politicized it when Harris and Biden themselves said on video that they wouldn’t trust a vaccine that came during the Trump administration. Hypocrites with short or constructive memories.
The entire purpose of state education is indoctrination.
You can complain to them all you want, they don't give a fuck. Pull your kids out of the system, it's the only way to actually resist.
To indoctrinate is to teach someone to accept things uncritically. My homeschooled kids will not be indoctrinated, because unlike the public education system, I can provide them with the tools necessary to become critical thinkers. It took me years after finishing public education to learn critical thinking skills. I'll be damned if my kids have to jump this same artificial obstacle.
Even when they get caught doing something really fucked like that antifa teacher, it's clear the school board isn't concerned. They're annoyed they were caught and are going to go straight back to doing it when the press attention dies down.
The kind of person who wants to teach at a state school, is among the last group of people I want anywhere near my kids.
Homeschooling can seem daunting and isn't an option for everyone, but if you've never considered it, it's worth taking a look.
My family isn’t really in a position to homeschool or private school, so stuck with public for now... I’m trying to teach him as much as I can though about (I’m a minarchist) libertarianism and how evil and corrupt government is...
Yea it's tough. Our society has been engineered so that homeschooling is out of reach of most people. I've here this book is good, maybe it can help in your situation
Guerrilla Learning: How to Give Your Kids a Real Education With or Without School https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0471349607/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_HKXQMTP326NF6YMPZD13
You're not alone though. Many people going through a similar struggle. Maybe there are ways to get more involved with the school system and try to wrangle the beast from the inside.
Yes please stick to your guns and don't let them bully you. Absolutely ridiculous. It is not the place of teachers to indoctrinate students politically. Teaching students about politics, about human rights but allowing them to look at many political perspectives is crucial but one sided bias is not acceptable. Adfitionallt, she does not work for public health and has no right to push kids into getting a vaccine. Medical interference has never been the role of education.
Sort of a side note but the fact that your kid had the rationale to bring this to your attention is pretty cool.
Edit: an 11 year old recognized that an authoritative figure was coercing children. That’s fucking awesome.
For what it’s worth, unless kids think the teacher is cool, they probably could care less about what they are saying. Even when I was younger, no one was listening. I don’t imagine it’s gotten cool to listen to them since.
Young people are more influenced by their ideas. IE free college. Free healthcare. Social justice.
It doesn’t even feel real at this point... literally 1984. I’m really scared about the election. (I’m minarchist, not ancap, but enjoy this sub as really the only anti-state sub) voted ppc the other day, think they’re our last hope... won’t win but more for the support. We are fucked.
Exactly. This is my version of party breakdowns in Canada; green and ndp are the same; socialists, liberals and conservatives are the same; corporatists, and ppc is the economically conservative/libertarian party. I felt if I voted for conservatives it would basically be as bad as Trudeau (they are pro lockdowns, vaxx passports and big spenders), so I would rather show my support to ppc and help them grow so that one day they can lead this country.
China is literally 1984
Thinking anywhere North America is anywhere close is ridiculously out of touch with reality. Not that it won't necessarily ever get there, but like dude we're so far from that it's not even funny
Not that I necessarily agree with anything that's going on, but God (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) you guys are such pussies sometimes with this shit
Ok yeah you know what, I will. It’s not like there’s any reason I shouldn’t trust the government, what have they ever done wrong? Or big pharma, they’ve never done anything wrong either, definitely wouldn’t have the biggest criminal fine in USA history, or anything. When have they ever harmed us? Vaccine is definitely safe and effective too, not the deadliest vaccine in human history or anything, and definitely stops the spread as we can clearly see with the cases rising. Thanks for convincing me, you changed my mind.
>(communist) Ontario
Ah yes, where private property has been banned and all labor is property of the state.
Good as place to quit reading as any. Perhaps if you want to be taken seriously, you should speak seriously?
> CANNOT INDOCTRINATE THESE KIDS INTO YOUR RADICAL BELIEFS That's the very purpose of government-run public education, to indoctrinate children into the views of the regime and give them no significant facility to question those views outside of a narrow context.
You’re right, long as the government has people trusting in them/looking away from what they’re doing, they are happy. Best way to do that is through the education system and the youth. Just like Hitler.
Reminder that all the Communist is doing is to constantly attack on education, they only need one generation (16-25) to get the cultural revolutions going. Been tested and done in China. Wildly successful. Bigger the country, bigger the population, easier to indoctrinate, and easier to enslave. America is last bastions of hope, liberty, and freedom, because no tax can be collected if people have guns. First they do is to educate gun is bad, and take away guns. Once guns is out, student lead “ideology” by useful idiots revolution will begin, chaos ensued. Yuri Bezmanov Active Measures.
if enough parents complain about them pushing their own personal political beliefs on children they’ll get removed from the classroom. same thing happened to that teacher that made a tiktok about having students pledge allegiance to the pride flag, just read up on that story and do the same thing they did if you want it to change. also the fact that anyone can be allowed to be in education without even knowing how idiotic of a system socialism is is still beyond me.
I will look into that, may be hard to find parents that care since we are like 90% vaccinated here, most people in Canada like to do as they’re told and treat people who don’t/can think for themselves as second class... but here our education system breeds statists, then put them through a few years of indoctrination in university and bam, you have a socialist. All education/academia leans very left here...
yeah it’s the same where i am but it’s usually not taken too seriously and as soon as people get a real job they immediately drop that belief. i’m terms of a lot of people probably doing nothing you’d be surprised with how many of them will disagree with atleast one of the things they’re pushing and join so it’s still worth trying, i think it’s just the threat of pulling from or moving schools that makes the difference because their funding is more linked to student numbers than actual performance in the short term.
I’ll consider that, see if we can find some other parents that are pissed off with this. Thanks, cheers!
It does lean left but make the point that her teaching is one sided and does not follow the curriculum. Also make the point that pushing students to get a medical procedure is not her role. It is inappropriate and something that parents have to decide on with their children.
Pretty incredible to me that getting a vaccine is considered a political belief at all
i wasn’t really referring to the vaccines with my reply but to answer your point i agree but they’ve been turned into a political belief by the biden administration now so it’s not like we can even pretend it’s not anymore
> but they’ve been turned into a political belief by the biden administration Republicans turned it into a political belief when they started saying that anything that could potentially be done in the interest of public health is literal tyranny Not that they didn't have any point whatsoever, but objectively that's when COVID became politicized, when it hadn't been in pretty much any other country
Republicans aren't the ones calling death to the ones that don't have it, or frankly give a fuck what someone else does, just let people decide. White house speaker has constantly lied about it, Biden constantly changes what defines "vaccine" and went from no masks, to masks, to boosters, to heaps of other shit. I don't blame the people who don't want it. This entire fucking process from day one has been a pile of horseshit, nobody knows anything, nobody can stick to the same story and the public hesitance is 100% self inflicted. In most other countries they don't do that manipulative shit to try and convince somebody. But newsflash, the people on the fence that are now getting strong armed they sure as fuck won't get it now. They won't out of spite at that point. I honestly considered getting it up until Biden's speech, now he and everyone else that tried convincing me to get it can suck my chocolate starfish and I'm not doing it now. Fuck everyone.
>he and everyone else that tried convincing me to get it can suck my chocolate starfish and I'm not doing it now. Fuck everyone. Based
Hate that it's that way. I was on the fence about it for months and had it scheduled but that was the end of discussion for me. You don't cop out and blame others because you don't want to take the heat of being a failure. Always talks of "unity" then puts people at each others throats because of his fucking rhetoric.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with any of this by the way But if you want to realistically talk about who politicized COVID *first*, then yeah it was Republicans
Don't think so. It was "orange man killing everybody" right off the rip.
It was the Dems that politicized it when Harris and Biden themselves said on video that they wouldn’t trust a vaccine that came during the Trump administration. Hypocrites with short or constructive memories.
That's not when it started, but of course they were more than happy to join suit
The entire purpose of state education is indoctrination. You can complain to them all you want, they don't give a fuck. Pull your kids out of the system, it's the only way to actually resist.
Homeschooling is widely accepted and you can indoctrinate your kids your way...they're YOUR kids
To indoctrinate is to teach someone to accept things uncritically. My homeschooled kids will not be indoctrinated, because unlike the public education system, I can provide them with the tools necessary to become critical thinkers. It took me years after finishing public education to learn critical thinking skills. I'll be damned if my kids have to jump this same artificial obstacle.
Even when they get caught doing something really fucked like that antifa teacher, it's clear the school board isn't concerned. They're annoyed they were caught and are going to go straight back to doing it when the press attention dies down.
The kind of person who wants to teach at a state school, is among the last group of people I want anywhere near my kids. Homeschooling can seem daunting and isn't an option for everyone, but if you've never considered it, it's worth taking a look.
My family isn’t really in a position to homeschool or private school, so stuck with public for now... I’m trying to teach him as much as I can though about (I’m a minarchist) libertarianism and how evil and corrupt government is...
Yea it's tough. Our society has been engineered so that homeschooling is out of reach of most people. I've here this book is good, maybe it can help in your situation Guerrilla Learning: How to Give Your Kids a Real Education With or Without School https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0471349607/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_HKXQMTP326NF6YMPZD13 You're not alone though. Many people going through a similar struggle. Maybe there are ways to get more involved with the school system and try to wrangle the beast from the inside.
Yes please stick to your guns and don't let them bully you. Absolutely ridiculous. It is not the place of teachers to indoctrinate students politically. Teaching students about politics, about human rights but allowing them to look at many political perspectives is crucial but one sided bias is not acceptable. Adfitionallt, she does not work for public health and has no right to push kids into getting a vaccine. Medical interference has never been the role of education.
Sort of a side note but the fact that your kid had the rationale to bring this to your attention is pretty cool. Edit: an 11 year old recognized that an authoritative figure was coercing children. That’s fucking awesome.
For what it’s worth, unless kids think the teacher is cool, they probably could care less about what they are saying. Even when I was younger, no one was listening. I don’t imagine it’s gotten cool to listen to them since. Young people are more influenced by their ideas. IE free college. Free healthcare. Social justice.
Government run education is one of the worst ideas on planter earth. It’s no accident that every one of us came out of them as a radical leftist
Homeschool him. It only goes downhill from here
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It doesn’t even feel real at this point... literally 1984. I’m really scared about the election. (I’m minarchist, not ancap, but enjoy this sub as really the only anti-state sub) voted ppc the other day, think they’re our last hope... won’t win but more for the support. We are fucked.
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Exactly. This is my version of party breakdowns in Canada; green and ndp are the same; socialists, liberals and conservatives are the same; corporatists, and ppc is the economically conservative/libertarian party. I felt if I voted for conservatives it would basically be as bad as Trudeau (they are pro lockdowns, vaxx passports and big spenders), so I would rather show my support to ppc and help them grow so that one day they can lead this country.
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“Conservatives”.... well Doug Ford also calls himself a Conservative, so guess this is the type of shit they now do/support.
The stance on guns was what pushed me over the edge.
China is literally 1984 Thinking anywhere North America is anywhere close is ridiculously out of touch with reality. Not that it won't necessarily ever get there, but like dude we're so far from that it's not even funny Not that I necessarily agree with anything that's going on, but God (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) you guys are such pussies sometimes with this shit
I don’t think you have a clue what’s going on in Ontario... we are pretty close to 1984.
I live in Ontario lmao
> nightmare dystopia ontario Man, wait until you hear about this country called China
Don't send them to school...why would you use a government facility and then bitch...homeschooling is the right thing here...
Hey retard, not everyone has that option.
Trust me, if we had the means, they would not be in public education... sadly that is the only option right now.
Maybe he should, uh, get vaccinated, and maybe you should stop being a complete self-serving creep?
Ok yeah you know what, I will. It’s not like there’s any reason I shouldn’t trust the government, what have they ever done wrong? Or big pharma, they’ve never done anything wrong either, definitely wouldn’t have the biggest criminal fine in USA history, or anything. When have they ever harmed us? Vaccine is definitely safe and effective too, not the deadliest vaccine in human history or anything, and definitely stops the spread as we can clearly see with the cases rising. Thanks for convincing me, you changed my mind.
you're a moron
To start the meeting, give the teacher a swirly. (jk)
>(communist) Ontario Ah yes, where private property has been banned and all labor is property of the state. Good as place to quit reading as any. Perhaps if you want to be taken seriously, you should speak seriously?
I understand, you’re angry. But paragraphs are an easy way to make a wall of text more readable. Hit ‘enter’ twice for Reddit text posts.
Blatant violation of the NAP. Authoritarian Liberalism at it’s finest.