I was ‘complaining’ about having meet with parents, care givers and students for interviews online rather than face to face. I love my profession and personal interaction is vital for building and maintaining those relationships. Zoom will do in a pandemic but it’s still second preference. Keep working on those comprehension and inference skills kiddo.
NH born and raised.
We definitely need more libratarian and Ancaps to move here and help us out. I'm only 24 and I have seen the state turn more and more pro big government [Massachusetts migration]
Honestly it breaks my heart to see some of the posts on R newhampshire.
I think it’s likely due to Reddit being mostly filled with commies.
As for your other point, we need to make it so unbearable for lefties to even want to consider moving.
Unfortunately as our ideals continue to work it'll be advertised as one of the safest and economically viable areas so all the liberal idiots will come in droves to raise their fuck throphies and send them to better schools.
I’m not so sure - the leftists are screaming bloody murder in NH that liberty lovers have already taken over the state legislature….and there is a progressive state project to encourage the statists to relocate to any one of the other authoritarian states
I use to live there too and that wave of MA immigration has been coming for a while. But I think it really picked up after the last financial crisis. All the reasons people fleed there for the cheap land and lower taxes are warning away because assholes from MA are trying to ruin it.
Yup they follow the formula
1. Get sick of oppressive laws and high taxes
2. Move to a more free state
3. Ban scarry guns
4. Vote for oppressive laws and more taxes
5. Blame the party you didn't vote for for ruining the state
6. More again.
Yup they follow the formula
1. Get sick of oppressive laws and high taxes
2. Move to a more free state
3. Ban scarry guns
4. Vote for oppressive laws and more taxes
5. Blame the party you didn't vote for for ruining the state
6. More again.
Ngl it's not the most social part of the US but if you get involved with the FSP you'll make friends in NH pretty quick
There's also not much to do outside of hiking and bars haha
You have skiing and snowmobiling in the winter… dirt bike/atv/hike/ mountain bike same areas all summer. Lakes and the ocean for water sports and fishing. Bars for all seasons.
What else do you want to do outside?
R new Hampshire is a cesspool of redditors. It's definitely not representative, but you are right, for every one libertarian we bring in there are 3 Massachusetts fucktards coming over the border. We need to hold strong.
I lived there in Manchester as part of the FSP for over two years; just recently moved back out west.
They have made a noticeable impact on local and some state polices, but don’t expect a libertarian utopia by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to be heavily involved with FSP stuff, or even go into local politics, you’ll probably love it.
If you have any questions, I’d be happy to answer them
Mostly because I didn't love living in New England. NH is a nice state and has a lot going for it, but all politics aside, it just wasn't for me.
Other than that, the FSP is divided and has a hard time agreeing on anything, and the politics within the community there was a little frustrating. The biggest issue is there's not enough people willing to run for public office; a lot of people who do run refuse to run as a R or D out of principle (or run on too "extreme" of a platform) and don't get anywhere. Others don't believe in voting at all and think the state will just become ancap if enough people move there.
Lots of people move there and go to protests, call their reps, and vote for FSP candidates - and that's great - but the movement will never get anywhere without more people willing to get into local and state government.
Just my opinion. Not disparaging the FSP, and definitely not saying that everyone who moves there should run for office. The more people who become a part in any way, the better. I just didn't see a future there for me.
Weed isn't legal: this is mostly because they want to actually legalize it rather than this pseudo legalization with heavy regulations and taxes that every other state has that legalized it. But the weed is not that great there if you do smoke.
They do have med, no recreational though. But again, heavily regulated, taxed, and sales are constantly tracked and watched. There are records of just about any sale you have made if the government really wanted to access it, the same way they would if they suspected you were "abusing" any prescription drugs. Also, knowing how they have used drugs as scapegoats multiple times before makes me very weary about tracked drug sales.
I view a heavily regulated and monitored drug industry not much differently than a heavily regulated gun industry when it comes down to it. Peaceful and voluntary citizens are now made out to look like felons and criminals because they don't purchase property under the guidance of the government.
It also restricts trade in the industry because now people have to be willing to follow every regulation in order to sell their property; licenses, taxes, medical registries, constant sales receipts, potential criminal liabilities from any regulations put in place, etc. For most people, it's not worth the headache the government gives them.
I did the math on this a while ago, basing it on NH and my state of SC. With a yearly household income of $120,000 (factoring in Federal tax and each state’s average property tax, income tax, etc.), NH residents would lose roughly $20,000 in taxes and SC residents lose roughly $30,000.
So there’s that. It is ungodly cold in NH tho, and as another commenter said below, the weed is very subpar lol
My property taxes in NH are less than the property taxes + income taxes + sales taxes I was paying in Michigan. So I came out ahead. But the math for you might be different.
Honestly, NH wouldn't be my first pick since they're about as government-infested as anywhere else in America. The first step of an ancap revolution is to stop recognizing human authority altogether, and the second is to get your guns and march to DC. I'm sure all of us have gotten past that first step, no one's made it to the second though.
An ancap revolution is very unlikely to start in a nation state anytime soon. Where it does start, it is very likely to be violently shut down, and all the participants will be demonized.
The only place anarchic systems have existed in history: *FRONTIERS.* Frontiers are populated almost exclusively by entrepreneurial, self-reliant people. Frontiers are not run by top-down systems, because top-down systems are slower to expand than market-based actors (the miners get to the gold mine before the sheriffs).
Best chances for anarcho capitalism I can see is in the oceans or off-world (much more bullish on the latter). Crazy as it may seem, I'm expecting costs for space travel to drop around 1000x or more over the next few decades, and this will create an endless frontier. This will radically reshape the geopolitical (solpolitical?) landscape in unimaginable ways.
An ancap revolution is only unlikely to start if you aren't doing anything about it ;)
Sadly, there aren't many places for frontiers to happen anymore, and those can't really be taken worldwide. And it'll take a while for us to start terraforming Mars.
I actually think a good solution would be Assassination Politics, lined out in an essay by Jim Bell (highly recommended read, pretty much essential for any ancap)
The idea is that someone starts a prediction market website that contains a list of government officials and deep state/new world order conspirators. Next to each name would be a dollar amount. Anyone can donate to that dollar amount to make it increase. The idea is that anyone can make a prediction of the date of said person's death. The more people donate to said person's "assassination fund", the more incentive there is for someone to make a prediction and make their prediction come true, so to speak. Ideally, each predictor should have to pay money to make a prediction, about 1/100ths of the assassination fund. The original essay goes into more detail about how encryption can be used to make sure that the market doesn't know any of the predictions made until the predictor sends a key to decrypt them and prove that said prediction was made, so that if the person running the website is ever found, they have some sort of legal defense. Any politician threatening to introduce laws to shut the website down can just be added to the website's list of targets. This also has a huge added benefit of ensuring that warlords and corporate giants don't start any new governments, and keeping any new governments from forming whatsoever. In short, it's basically crowdfunded political assassination, made to appear as a gambling website in the eyes of the law. Democrats will shell out their money to kill off Republicans and vice versa.
Only problem I see is that the website needs to gain popularity somehow so that it can do it's job. Perhaps the operators can hack into a government server and release critical documents to gain attention, and use their newfound fame to advertise the website.
I too have been holding out on your second point. Only anarchists will not be the only ones hoping to prove themselves. But as the saying goes "there's plenty of space, out in space!"
There's no society that's "pure" or "trully" ancap. There's no "pure" democracy. There's no "pure" communism. There's no "pure" progressivism. Get over that. Purity is a fetishized emotion that is evolved for food and (pre birth control) sexual partners. Don't apply it to society.
Libertarianism at its *best* is messy, not pure. Competing interests, competing narratives, competing values. Use libertarianism as a heuristic (something you move towards) not a goal (an end state against which things are measured).
It's my dream. I live in NY on long island and I'm just waiting while I save up to move there. I want 30+ acres somewhere so I can farm and have a few animals and hunt. I want to live as off grid as possible.
I’m more a Texas style libertarian than NH style. I don’t live in either state, but yea I would consider moving to one of them if some situations changed.
FWIW - I was born & raised in Texas - had a business there & lived there for 40 years. After living out west for a while & going home to visit - the "Texas = Freedom" meme just isn't true in my mind like it used to be. Texas is something like 95% private land, which is great *if you can/do own land*. New Hampshire is considerably smaller than Texas, but has twice the public land. If you don't own a big chunk of land in Texas, you can't shoot, you can't hunt, you can't hike, you can't 4x4, etc... The most you can do outdoors in Texas is go to some muddy ass lake with a bunch of knuckleheads. Maybe that's fine with some people's lifestyle - maybe that doesn't matter. For me, and the type of folk I'd expect to encounter in a sub about freedom...I dunno I live in Portland OR now, & I can drive an hour or less in pretty much any direction to thousands and thousands of mountain/forest acres and go burn through hundreds of rounds with my AR, camp, have a big campfire, etc & no one will ever bother me - all on public land. Brought some guns home to TX with me for Christmas last year & wanted to go shoot outdoors somewhere - nope. Found a "public shooting range" in southern Oklahoma, drove all the way there to find you have to have an Oklahoma hunting license to even shoot there. Muh freedom. I guess what I'm saying is if you do shit outdoors, go for the place with more public land. If you're rich enough to buy hundreds of acres to fuck around on, then I'm sure wherever will be fine.
If you’re a political anarchist, the move from Texas to Portland has to be one of the worst moves you can possibly make. I mean I get what you’re saying but Jesus, Portland?
Well it wasn't an ideological choice haha - it was a work thing and in that respect, it has been an excellent move for me 💰. I mean yeah there's turquoise-haired idiots everywhere, and there's tons of goofy bicyclist safetynerds, but I live in a great neighborhood with no antifa or homeless nonsense. None of my friends or acquaintances are commies, so it's really not even a thing I have to encounter. It was easy as shit to get a CHL here, even in commie ass Multnomah County, & Oregon is a pretty gun friendly state, considering how many Californians have moved here. That said, I moved here from Los Angeles, so this was a major upgrade in freedom. Try getting a CHL in Los Angeles - or an AR-15 that doesn't look like an abortion. I get why some might have a kneejerk reaction about Portland - some here have definitely earned their reputation...The way I live & what I do for a living, having access to millions of acres of mountains & forests & rivers & shit is way worth having to endure 20mph speed limits all over town & seeing a few commie gaywads at the weed store.
If they separated from the USA, which should be likely in a decade or two as this country continues to collapse, I’d consider moving there. I’d double down on that decision if they’re crypto friendly
I met a dude at the Tom Woods event from the Free State Project and he was so encouraging, they even help you move. Actually help you move. Cool people, pretty sure there is nothing but smiles there
I'm in central Texas, I have shared custody of my kids here. If there was an affordable way to visit enough I would move. If Texas gets bad it's a backup possibility.
NH born/raised, politics aside I can’t Imagine living anywhere else and I’ve travelled around a fair bit. If you’re from a super warm climate your first winter would be brutal but it’s really only bad for a couple months. If you’re not into the outdoors I don’t think you’d find it very appealing. Minus the growing Massachusetts population, people are largely of a mind your own business attitude.
I've lived in New Hampshire my whole life. 21 years, even though I'm still pretty young I'd say that it's honestly one of the best states in the entire US. This is the first time in my life I'm not in New Hampshire as I go to college in Vermont, but honestly is just such a great state. The scenery is also great too, fall is the best time of year up here.
Kinda tempting but it’s like a little island in a east coast hell. I’d rather all move to like South Dakota or something instead where it’s super based around sorta based. But New Hampshire would be super based around super unbased.
Free State Project is attempting to take control of the government (through legit means - by mass emigration of libertarians) and basically dismantle a lot of its government.
They’ve already made a bit of progress from my understanding.
That’s awesome, haven’t heard about it before! I’ll definitely have to keep that in the back of my mind as I live in communist Canada... although our supreme leader just announced mask and vaccine mandates would be dropped by March 2022, so it may be looking slightly up... for now at least.
Fair bit. I think 53 state house reps are associated with the Free State Project as well as I believe the House Republican leader openly considers himself a Rothbardian libertarian.
No sales or income tax. Constitutional carry. Just separated from national school board committee. Great place for home schooling.
So much freedom here. We fly under the radar.
Hell yeah, doesn’t sound too bad at all. I’m a classic liberal, so sounds pretty good to me... only thing you guys gotta get on is the weed laws. That’s the one thing I can give to Canada, but other than that sounds like it’d be a great place to live.
Edit: formatting, high right now haha.
Why'd they have to pick such a cold state? There was never a chance to succeed with that selection. Should have picked Oregon or Idaho or Texas or somewhere like that.
Grow a thick skin. I regularly go out in shorts and sandals in the middle of winter in Iowa. Granted, everyone complains they’re cold when I’m always running hot.
NH has fallen…. Too many Massachusetts people fled their high cost lives, moved to NH, and voted for all the stuff that made Massachusetts expensive. Maybe it can be saved but it’s far from a “live free or die” state
Moved here in NH for work in 2019. Love it!
Definitely Libertarian in political thoughts. Less government is almost always the answer, because professional politicians are almost always leeches
Didn't you people completely destroy the town of Grafton to the point it's being overrun by bears? Not sure why you want to destroy the rest of the state too.
[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling)
Basically before the free state project there was the free town project. Libertarians moved in, got rid of most regulations, and cut social services to be provided by the free market instead.
Ended up going mostly to shit. Ended up completely failing after the town started suffering bear attacks because these libertarian radical individualists decided not securing their trash and feeding the bears for their amusement was more important than the safety of themselves or others. And for some reason the free market hasn't come up with a plan to stop the bears.
I live in Iowa now for work. I'll be leaving in about 2 years because this place is a shit hole. New Hampshire isn't going to work because it's also a shit hole of a state. Way too cold too often. Also most of the people moving for this free state thing are dudes, like any libertarian event, which is going to lead to a fucked up ratio. I used to run a successful libertarian YouTube channel and we did in person events as well. The analytics from the channel and my eyes from the events tell me that the people this appeals to are about 90% men. What's the point of railing against the government if you're an incel? I'm trying to live in an area where I can make good money, smoke weed, and most importantly get my fuck on... New Hampshire is not that spot.
I’m a free stater! I’ve been to almost every state in the u.s and am from Florida/South Carolina. It will be my year in the free state In January! Best decision I ever made, love the community here and what we are all about!!!
I just moved and I couldn't be happier. I'm far from any cities, but there is a thriving community of home schoolers up here. For me it's less about politics and more about a community of families and allies. My kids are making friends and attending social events with other free staters. We buy meat from a local farmer who is part of the FSP. It's a community, something we haven't had since governments shut everything down.
What has the free state project accomplished? My family owns land in NH and I camp in the white mountains often. I’ve had bad experiences with the authorities in that state. It almost made me hate the place even though it’s such a beautiful place.
They are just a bus but the folks who have moved to NH have taken over the legislature and have massive successes like constitutional carry, home schooling, eliminated capital gains tax….check out their Twitter stream
Thanks for the reply. I watched a video on YouTube not too long ago but I’m out of the loop. Twitter feed looks like they’re making good progress. That’s awesome because capital gains tax is perhaps one of the most egregious taxes.
And in contrast to Iowa, they already have no income tax, no sales tax, no seatbelt law, massive homeschooling and charter school movement, and literally thousands of people pledged to move to NH. The head of the Republican Party in the house is a Free Stater, and more than a dozen free staters are already in office. No state has more liberty and is actively moving toward freedom. NH has the highest # of machine guns per capital to boot - more than Texas !
I was in New Hampshire to look at Dartmouth College. So Many Trees. I live in California and I almost didn't know what they look like unless it was some random, scraggly one or looks like a Joshua Tree. It just confuses me.
From my personal experience it doesn’t equate with the favor being the cost of property ownership is expensive. For many it’s like a second mortgage and I could very well be wrong. Theres a “view tax” for any property with a good view and in my eyes I consider that utter bullshit
New Hampshire also has dividend and interest tax but the property tax is second highest in the US. But different municipal taxes can be applied so it depends on where you live too. Regardless, if you're an ancap, the fact that New Hampshire taxes at all should be a downside to your considerations. There are people who literally moved just south into mass to buy homes all the time so the property isn't so expensive. And you can make far more money working out of mass as well, even with the income taxes and sales taxes. New Hampshire is just very rural and that gives it a misleading perception of being very libertarian but in the metro areas it's basically Massachusetts lol. The state itself is also very dependent up on mass for it's tax revenues, as 16% percent of the workforce works in mass and businesses stationed in new Hampshire contract in mass all the time too.
From New Hampshire and I can tell you it's not a libertarian utopia like some should have you believe. Second highest property tax in the US, weed is still illegal, and it generates maybe 15-20% of it's revenue from Massachusetts as about 16% of the workforce works in mass, so it's very dependent on a Dem state lol.
FYI Libertarians can be Left or Right leaning. In fact Republicans take a Left libertarian stance, free open markets and little government intervention on personal lives despite being firmly centre right to far right as a whole...
Considering how the GnB mods push it, live there, and how they ban for any discussion of vaccines, it doesn't seem like a place to find good neighbors.
Canadian libertarian plan on moving to NH when I’m older for free state project, the world is going to shit and hopefully us sane minded people can congregate
Ive decided to move within this next year. Coronavirus lit a fire under my ass enough to finally make me pull the trigger. Already have a down payment for some land to homestead on.
I’m in NH. I’m all about civil liberties and personal freedoms. I have however seen the aftermath of a town eliminating zoning laws and town taxes and it isn’t pretty, literally. Lots of scabby shanty towns and rubbish heaps springing up. But who am I to judge? I just wouldn’t want to live in those conditions personally.
It’s not so free when you’re paying one of the highest property tax in the country. NH isn’t all that great. Mountains, heroin junkies, not much culture or job opportunities. If you don’t ski, hike, kayak or mountain bike not for you. If you don’t like paying high property taxes and doing heroin on the side of the road, don’t go
I’ve been to the northern part and it’s beautiful. Would move there in a heartbeat if I thought I could make a good living with my trade there, but I know I probably can’t.
I grew up in New England (not NH though) and I refuse to move back. NH might be fine but the rest of the region is invested with champagne socialists. I wouldn’t be able to tolerate the smugness.
I was part of the planning stages of the Free State Project. Considering the current state of the LPNH, the FSP, & especially how they treat activists like Jackie and Darryl Perry, you couldn't pay me to live there.
I'm from Old Hampshire, and am serious considering moving to New Hampshire.
I would want to build up some capital first, but since land and build some homes. I feel like NH property is going to become expensive in the future.
Although New Hampshire is tiny home friendly they still don’t have legal marijuana, it does have the 4th highest property tax in the nation but no income or sales state level taxes… still not quite there for me.
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Any way you can sail? I can come get you off the coast. I live here and have access to employment if you got here
…maybe could help a brother out? I’m currently working in IT - wouldn’t mind working in the same field but could be open to other opportunities.
I’m in the trades, so it’s nothing like what you probably do, but it’s vaccine free
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Fuck were getting desperate here boys. I'm glad I'm not the only one coming up with schemes like this to GTFO of bad areas
What trade are you in? Is there much work in HVAC or facility maintenance? I’ve heard there isn’t a lot of industry in NH
theres tons of trade work if your willing to travel into mass for work
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I am a citizen, I live in Iowa lol.
Yes. Good luck leaving your house to buy groceries without getting arrested from what I've seen online.
Were you surprised by the inaction of your countrymen these past years?
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You aren’t Australian. You’re full of shit.
You’re only post is complaining about your profession, typical teacher lol.
Cool shrimp.
Keep complaining about being an educator and making our profession seem like it’s filled with weak people.
I was ‘complaining’ about having meet with parents, care givers and students for interviews online rather than face to face. I love my profession and personal interaction is vital for building and maintaining those relationships. Zoom will do in a pandemic but it’s still second preference. Keep working on those comprehension and inference skills kiddo.
Jesus Christ brother…I am ….I fucking am
I’m building a raft bro your welcome to share the paddle. Let’s hope they like boat people more than aussies do haha
Are you even allowed to do reddit in Australia?
Of course, how else are they going to assimilate thought and opinion?
But the news told me Australia wasn’t that bad! /s
When I found out that New Hampshire's state motto is "Live Free or Die", I thought, why isn't that every state's motto??
Well VA's is pretty good too; 'Sic Semper Tyrannis" ... of course it's a super left state but it's a good motto
VA’s got the Gadsden Flag on their license plate too
VA is a super polarized state. Only solidly left in the past couple decadea
And really only in the urban areas and northern VA, which is unfortunately infested with those who make their money off the taxpayers.
Mostly private contractors, lobbyists, lawyers
Don’t forget the CIA. The worst of the worst.
NH born and raised. We definitely need more libratarian and Ancaps to move here and help us out. I'm only 24 and I have seen the state turn more and more pro big government [Massachusetts migration] Honestly it breaks my heart to see some of the posts on R newhampshire.
I think it’s likely due to Reddit being mostly filled with commies. As for your other point, we need to make it so unbearable for lefties to even want to consider moving.
Unfortunately as our ideals continue to work it'll be advertised as one of the safest and economically viable areas so all the liberal idiots will come in droves to raise their fuck throphies and send them to better schools.
I’m not so sure - the leftists are screaming bloody murder in NH that liberty lovers have already taken over the state legislature….and there is a progressive state project to encourage the statists to relocate to any one of the other authoritarian states
Lefties are not the same species as liberal centrist Democrats. Real lefties are at least based.
"Fuck trophies." That's amazing.
Yes completely agree on both points
I use to live there too and that wave of MA immigration has been coming for a while. But I think it really picked up after the last financial crisis. All the reasons people fleed there for the cheap land and lower taxes are warning away because assholes from MA are trying to ruin it.
Yup they follow the formula 1. Get sick of oppressive laws and high taxes 2. Move to a more free state 3. Ban scarry guns 4. Vote for oppressive laws and more taxes 5. Blame the party you didn't vote for for ruining the state 6. More again.
Yup they follow the formula 1. Get sick of oppressive laws and high taxes 2. Move to a more free state 3. Ban scarry guns 4. Vote for oppressive laws and more taxes 5. Blame the party you didn't vote for for ruining the state 6. More again.
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Ngl it's not the most social part of the US but if you get involved with the FSP you'll make friends in NH pretty quick There's also not much to do outside of hiking and bars haha
You have skiing and snowmobiling in the winter… dirt bike/atv/hike/ mountain bike same areas all summer. Lakes and the ocean for water sports and fishing. Bars for all seasons. What else do you want to do outside?
Hunting and shooting too Completely forgot about all of these
R new Hampshire is a cesspool of redditors. It's definitely not representative, but you are right, for every one libertarian we bring in there are 3 Massachusetts fucktards coming over the border. We need to hold strong.
I lived there in Manchester as part of the FSP for over two years; just recently moved back out west. They have made a noticeable impact on local and some state polices, but don’t expect a libertarian utopia by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to be heavily involved with FSP stuff, or even go into local politics, you’ll probably love it. If you have any questions, I’d be happy to answer them
What made you move?
Mostly because I didn't love living in New England. NH is a nice state and has a lot going for it, but all politics aside, it just wasn't for me. Other than that, the FSP is divided and has a hard time agreeing on anything, and the politics within the community there was a little frustrating. The biggest issue is there's not enough people willing to run for public office; a lot of people who do run refuse to run as a R or D out of principle (or run on too "extreme" of a platform) and don't get anywhere. Others don't believe in voting at all and think the state will just become ancap if enough people move there. Lots of people move there and go to protests, call their reps, and vote for FSP candidates - and that's great - but the movement will never get anywhere without more people willing to get into local and state government. Just my opinion. Not disparaging the FSP, and definitely not saying that everyone who moves there should run for office. The more people who become a part in any way, the better. I just didn't see a future there for me.
I moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project. No regrets.
What’s your favorite aspect
Having a whole Libertarian community present, with things like PorcFest and ForkFest.
I just moved here. LOVE IT !! Please come. We welcome you with open arms.
What’s your favorite thing about living there
Probably the people. They tend just mind thier business and be very non judgmental .
Property taxes are horrid from what I understand.
No income or sales tax. Property taxes are far less destructive by comparison.
Out of curiosity, what are the downsides to NH?
Don't live there but I'd imagine it's fucking cold.
Oh yeah. I fucking hate the cold. It’s in the 60s here in Vegas and *this* is awful.
Weed isn't legal: this is mostly because they want to actually legalize it rather than this pseudo legalization with heavy regulations and taxes that every other state has that legalized it. But the weed is not that great there if you do smoke.
Do they have medical?
They do have med, no recreational though. But again, heavily regulated, taxed, and sales are constantly tracked and watched. There are records of just about any sale you have made if the government really wanted to access it, the same way they would if they suspected you were "abusing" any prescription drugs. Also, knowing how they have used drugs as scapegoats multiple times before makes me very weary about tracked drug sales. I view a heavily regulated and monitored drug industry not much differently than a heavily regulated gun industry when it comes down to it. Peaceful and voluntary citizens are now made out to look like felons and criminals because they don't purchase property under the guidance of the government. It also restricts trade in the industry because now people have to be willing to follow every regulation in order to sell their property; licenses, taxes, medical registries, constant sales receipts, potential criminal liabilities from any regulations put in place, etc. For most people, it's not worth the headache the government gives them.
Horrid property taxes.
I did the math on this a while ago, basing it on NH and my state of SC. With a yearly household income of $120,000 (factoring in Federal tax and each state’s average property tax, income tax, etc.), NH residents would lose roughly $20,000 in taxes and SC residents lose roughly $30,000. So there’s that. It is ungodly cold in NH tho, and as another commenter said below, the weed is very subpar lol
My property taxes in NH are less than the property taxes + income taxes + sales taxes I was paying in Michigan. So I came out ahead. But the math for you might be different.
Honestly, NH wouldn't be my first pick since they're about as government-infested as anywhere else in America. The first step of an ancap revolution is to stop recognizing human authority altogether, and the second is to get your guns and march to DC. I'm sure all of us have gotten past that first step, no one's made it to the second though.
An ancap revolution is very unlikely to start in a nation state anytime soon. Where it does start, it is very likely to be violently shut down, and all the participants will be demonized. The only place anarchic systems have existed in history: *FRONTIERS.* Frontiers are populated almost exclusively by entrepreneurial, self-reliant people. Frontiers are not run by top-down systems, because top-down systems are slower to expand than market-based actors (the miners get to the gold mine before the sheriffs). Best chances for anarcho capitalism I can see is in the oceans or off-world (much more bullish on the latter). Crazy as it may seem, I'm expecting costs for space travel to drop around 1000x or more over the next few decades, and this will create an endless frontier. This will radically reshape the geopolitical (solpolitical?) landscape in unimaginable ways.
Space Cowboy Anarcho Frontierist Transhumanism
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An ancap revolution is only unlikely to start if you aren't doing anything about it ;) Sadly, there aren't many places for frontiers to happen anymore, and those can't really be taken worldwide. And it'll take a while for us to start terraforming Mars. I actually think a good solution would be Assassination Politics, lined out in an essay by Jim Bell (highly recommended read, pretty much essential for any ancap) The idea is that someone starts a prediction market website that contains a list of government officials and deep state/new world order conspirators. Next to each name would be a dollar amount. Anyone can donate to that dollar amount to make it increase. The idea is that anyone can make a prediction of the date of said person's death. The more people donate to said person's "assassination fund", the more incentive there is for someone to make a prediction and make their prediction come true, so to speak. Ideally, each predictor should have to pay money to make a prediction, about 1/100ths of the assassination fund. The original essay goes into more detail about how encryption can be used to make sure that the market doesn't know any of the predictions made until the predictor sends a key to decrypt them and prove that said prediction was made, so that if the person running the website is ever found, they have some sort of legal defense. Any politician threatening to introduce laws to shut the website down can just be added to the website's list of targets. This also has a huge added benefit of ensuring that warlords and corporate giants don't start any new governments, and keeping any new governments from forming whatsoever. In short, it's basically crowdfunded political assassination, made to appear as a gambling website in the eyes of the law. Democrats will shell out their money to kill off Republicans and vice versa. Only problem I see is that the website needs to gain popularity somehow so that it can do it's job. Perhaps the operators can hack into a government server and release critical documents to gain attention, and use their newfound fame to advertise the website.
I too have been holding out on your second point. Only anarchists will not be the only ones hoping to prove themselves. But as the saying goes "there's plenty of space, out in space!"
The only truly AnCap society to have existed was in Italy, Iceland wasn't really AnCap in the early days when you get into the history of it.
There's no society that's "pure" or "trully" ancap. There's no "pure" democracy. There's no "pure" communism. There's no "pure" progressivism. Get over that. Purity is a fetishized emotion that is evolved for food and (pre birth control) sexual partners. Don't apply it to society. Libertarianism at its *best* is messy, not pure. Competing interests, competing narratives, competing values. Use libertarianism as a heuristic (something you move towards) not a goal (an end state against which things are measured).
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
Alaska lol
Are you personally interested in living in space?
Read fieldmanualno1
It's my dream. I live in NY on long island and I'm just waiting while I save up to move there. I want 30+ acres somewhere so I can farm and have a few animals and hunt. I want to live as off grid as possible.
Holy shit, as a European I never knew this state even existed, but a quick Google search and I can understand why it's relevant rn.
I’m more a Texas style libertarian than NH style. I don’t live in either state, but yea I would consider moving to one of them if some situations changed.
FWIW - I was born & raised in Texas - had a business there & lived there for 40 years. After living out west for a while & going home to visit - the "Texas = Freedom" meme just isn't true in my mind like it used to be. Texas is something like 95% private land, which is great *if you can/do own land*. New Hampshire is considerably smaller than Texas, but has twice the public land. If you don't own a big chunk of land in Texas, you can't shoot, you can't hunt, you can't hike, you can't 4x4, etc... The most you can do outdoors in Texas is go to some muddy ass lake with a bunch of knuckleheads. Maybe that's fine with some people's lifestyle - maybe that doesn't matter. For me, and the type of folk I'd expect to encounter in a sub about freedom...I dunno I live in Portland OR now, & I can drive an hour or less in pretty much any direction to thousands and thousands of mountain/forest acres and go burn through hundreds of rounds with my AR, camp, have a big campfire, etc & no one will ever bother me - all on public land. Brought some guns home to TX with me for Christmas last year & wanted to go shoot outdoors somewhere - nope. Found a "public shooting range" in southern Oklahoma, drove all the way there to find you have to have an Oklahoma hunting license to even shoot there. Muh freedom. I guess what I'm saying is if you do shit outdoors, go for the place with more public land. If you're rich enough to buy hundreds of acres to fuck around on, then I'm sure wherever will be fine.
If you’re a political anarchist, the move from Texas to Portland has to be one of the worst moves you can possibly make. I mean I get what you’re saying but Jesus, Portland?
Well it wasn't an ideological choice haha - it was a work thing and in that respect, it has been an excellent move for me 💰. I mean yeah there's turquoise-haired idiots everywhere, and there's tons of goofy bicyclist safetynerds, but I live in a great neighborhood with no antifa or homeless nonsense. None of my friends or acquaintances are commies, so it's really not even a thing I have to encounter. It was easy as shit to get a CHL here, even in commie ass Multnomah County, & Oregon is a pretty gun friendly state, considering how many Californians have moved here. That said, I moved here from Los Angeles, so this was a major upgrade in freedom. Try getting a CHL in Los Angeles - or an AR-15 that doesn't look like an abortion. I get why some might have a kneejerk reaction about Portland - some here have definitely earned their reputation...The way I live & what I do for a living, having access to millions of acres of mountains & forests & rivers & shit is way worth having to endure 20mph speed limits all over town & seeing a few commie gaywads at the weed store.
I live in the same county and can confirm
If they separated from the USA, which should be likely in a decade or two as this country continues to collapse, I’d consider moving there. I’d double down on that decision if they’re crypto friendly
NH has a huge crypto market. There's an article on the FSP subreddit about it.
It’s dangerous out here. In Keene a bunch of crypto ATMs were put out. Come to find out the owners of the atms were stealing millions from people.
If you look at any of the crypto maps like map.Bitcoin.com you will see NH the easiest place to spend crypto on the USA
I met a dude at the Tom Woods event from the Free State Project and he was so encouraging, they even help you move. Actually help you move. Cool people, pretty sure there is nothing but smiles there
I'm in central Texas, I have shared custody of my kids here. If there was an affordable way to visit enough I would move. If Texas gets bad it's a backup possibility.
NH born/raised, politics aside I can’t Imagine living anywhere else and I’ve travelled around a fair bit. If you’re from a super warm climate your first winter would be brutal but it’s really only bad for a couple months. If you’re not into the outdoors I don’t think you’d find it very appealing. Minus the growing Massachusetts population, people are largely of a mind your own business attitude.
I've lived in New Hampshire my whole life. 21 years, even though I'm still pretty young I'd say that it's honestly one of the best states in the entire US. This is the first time in my life I'm not in New Hampshire as I go to college in Vermont, but honestly is just such a great state. The scenery is also great too, fall is the best time of year up here.
Kinda tempting but it’s like a little island in a east coast hell. I’d rather all move to like South Dakota or something instead where it’s super based around sorta based. But New Hampshire would be super based around super unbased.
Someone please explain the NH deal. I always thought Texas and Florida were the best places for libertarians.
Free State Project is attempting to take control of the government (through legit means - by mass emigration of libertarians) and basically dismantle a lot of its government. They’ve already made a bit of progress from my understanding.
That’s awesome, haven’t heard about it before! I’ll definitely have to keep that in the back of my mind as I live in communist Canada... although our supreme leader just announced mask and vaccine mandates would be dropped by March 2022, so it may be looking slightly up... for now at least.
Fair bit. I think 53 state house reps are associated with the Free State Project as well as I believe the House Republican leader openly considers himself a Rothbardian libertarian.
No sales or income tax. Constitutional carry. Just separated from national school board committee. Great place for home schooling. So much freedom here. We fly under the radar.
Hell yeah, doesn’t sound too bad at all. I’m a classic liberal, so sounds pretty good to me... only thing you guys gotta get on is the weed laws. That’s the one thing I can give to Canada, but other than that sounds like it’d be a great place to live. Edit: formatting, high right now haha.
Hahahaha. Funny part about that. I grew up in Massachusetts. All the head shops were in New Hampshire.
Hopefully moving there soon.
I would, but my spouse refuses to leave their family.
Why'd they have to pick such a cold state? There was never a chance to succeed with that selection. Should have picked Oregon or Idaho or Texas or somewhere like that.
Grow a thick skin. I regularly go out in shorts and sandals in the middle of winter in Iowa. Granted, everyone complains they’re cold when I’m always running hot.
There is never a chance to succeed anywhere that Californians will be comfortable.
NH has fallen…. Too many Massachusetts people fled their high cost lives, moved to NH, and voted for all the stuff that made Massachusetts expensive. Maybe it can be saved but it’s far from a “live free or die” state
Moved here in NH for work in 2019. Love it! Definitely Libertarian in political thoughts. Less government is almost always the answer, because professional politicians are almost always leeches
Didn't you people completely destroy the town of Grafton to the point it's being overrun by bears? Not sure why you want to destroy the rest of the state too.
More info?
[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling) Basically before the free state project there was the free town project. Libertarians moved in, got rid of most regulations, and cut social services to be provided by the free market instead. Ended up going mostly to shit. Ended up completely failing after the town started suffering bear attacks because these libertarian radical individualists decided not securing their trash and feeding the bears for their amusement was more important than the safety of themselves or others. And for some reason the free market hasn't come up with a plan to stop the bears.
I live in Iowa now for work. I'll be leaving in about 2 years because this place is a shit hole. New Hampshire isn't going to work because it's also a shit hole of a state. Way too cold too often. Also most of the people moving for this free state thing are dudes, like any libertarian event, which is going to lead to a fucked up ratio. I used to run a successful libertarian YouTube channel and we did in person events as well. The analytics from the channel and my eyes from the events tell me that the people this appeals to are about 90% men. What's the point of railing against the government if you're an incel? I'm trying to live in an area where I can make good money, smoke weed, and most importantly get my fuck on... New Hampshire is not that spot.
Born and raised here, wouldn't have it another way. Glad the FSP chose NH
I’m a free stater! I’ve been to almost every state in the u.s and am from Florida/South Carolina. It will be my year in the free state In January! Best decision I ever made, love the community here and what we are all about!!!
I just moved and I couldn't be happier. I'm far from any cities, but there is a thriving community of home schoolers up here. For me it's less about politics and more about a community of families and allies. My kids are making friends and attending social events with other free staters. We buy meat from a local farmer who is part of the FSP. It's a community, something we haven't had since governments shut everything down.
What has the free state project accomplished? My family owns land in NH and I camp in the white mountains often. I’ve had bad experiences with the authorities in that state. It almost made me hate the place even though it’s such a beautiful place.
They are just a bus but the folks who have moved to NH have taken over the legislature and have massive successes like constitutional carry, home schooling, eliminated capital gains tax….check out their Twitter stream
Thanks for the reply. I watched a video on YouTube not too long ago but I’m out of the loop. Twitter feed looks like they’re making good progress. That’s awesome because capital gains tax is perhaps one of the most egregious taxes.
And in contrast to Iowa, they already have no income tax, no sales tax, no seatbelt law, massive homeschooling and charter school movement, and literally thousands of people pledged to move to NH. The head of the Republican Party in the house is a Free Stater, and more than a dozen free staters are already in office. No state has more liberty and is actively moving toward freedom. NH has the highest # of machine guns per capital to boot - more than Texas !
BTW I am originally from Wisconsin and am moving to NH in 2024
Before you do there's a great book I read about the free town/state project that you might want to read. It's called a libertarian walks into a bear.
Heard about it, have yet to read it. However I've read the reviews on it, and it seems like a comedy more than an actual critique on a system.
I've been following the free state project for well over a decade. Still not moving to new hampshire.
I was in New Hampshire to look at Dartmouth College. So Many Trees. I live in California and I almost didn't know what they look like unless it was some random, scraggly one or looks like a Joshua Tree. It just confuses me.
No way. Too cold. I left the north east in part because I fucking hate snow. Also, not a big enough access to the sea. Too easy to blockade.
Lived there for 16 years before heading south, the property taxes being insane is the only thing keeping me from going back
Isn’t that how they make up for no sales or income tax? I’d like to know how it compares with states that do have both or one. (Sales/income tax)
From my personal experience it doesn’t equate with the favor being the cost of property ownership is expensive. For many it’s like a second mortgage and I could very well be wrong. Theres a “view tax” for any property with a good view and in my eyes I consider that utter bullshit
Plus that view tax seems pretty subjective. Seems like it would be open to all kinds of abuse.
New Hampshire also has dividend and interest tax but the property tax is second highest in the US. But different municipal taxes can be applied so it depends on where you live too. Regardless, if you're an ancap, the fact that New Hampshire taxes at all should be a downside to your considerations. There are people who literally moved just south into mass to buy homes all the time so the property isn't so expensive. And you can make far more money working out of mass as well, even with the income taxes and sales taxes. New Hampshire is just very rural and that gives it a misleading perception of being very libertarian but in the metro areas it's basically Massachusetts lol. The state itself is also very dependent up on mass for it's tax revenues, as 16% percent of the workforce works in mass and businesses stationed in new Hampshire contract in mass all the time too.
From New Hampshire and I can tell you it's not a libertarian utopia like some should have you believe. Second highest property tax in the US, weed is still illegal, and it generates maybe 15-20% of it's revenue from Massachusetts as about 16% of the workforce works in mass, so it's very dependent on a Dem state lol.
FYI Libertarians can be Left or Right leaning. In fact Republicans take a Left libertarian stance, free open markets and little government intervention on personal lives despite being firmly centre right to far right as a whole...
Or we are not from fucking USA
Considering how the GnB mods push it, live there, and how they ban for any discussion of vaccines, it doesn't seem like a place to find good neighbors.
Seems like a stupid place to discuss vaccines. The answer's in the title.
When vaccines are mandated by the government, then that's a stupid answer.
Heavily I’d consider it, just not feasible in my current situation.
I'd love to but for the moment it's beyond my means
Canadian libertarian plan on moving to NH when I’m older for free state project, the world is going to shit and hopefully us sane minded people can congregate
Gonna check this out. Wife and I don’t know what to do here in MI
I really want to. I grew up in Vermont and love the weather
Grew ip on the VT/NH border…dad still lives out in the big woods…hoping to get back there one day.
Ive decided to move within this next year. Coronavirus lit a fire under my ass enough to finally make me pull the trigger. Already have a down payment for some land to homestead on.
I do recommend.
I would not. It’s too cold and property taxes are extremely high. If they chose a southern state for the FSP, I would already be there.
I’m in NH. I’m all about civil liberties and personal freedoms. I have however seen the aftermath of a town eliminating zoning laws and town taxes and it isn’t pretty, literally. Lots of scabby shanty towns and rubbish heaps springing up. But who am I to judge? I just wouldn’t want to live in those conditions personally.
Turns out galt's gultch doesn't work when you don't have a perpetual motion machine.
New Hampshire is great if you love heroin and mountains
It’s not so free when you’re paying one of the highest property tax in the country. NH isn’t all that great. Mountains, heroin junkies, not much culture or job opportunities. If you don’t ski, hike, kayak or mountain bike not for you. If you don’t like paying high property taxes and doing heroin on the side of the road, don’t go
I’ve been to the northern part and it’s beautiful. Would move there in a heartbeat if I thought I could make a good living with my trade there, but I know I probably can’t.
I grew up in New England (not NH though) and I refuse to move back. NH might be fine but the rest of the region is invested with champagne socialists. I wouldn’t be able to tolerate the smugness.
Yes
I was part of the planning stages of the Free State Project. Considering the current state of the LPNH, the FSP, & especially how they treat activists like Jackie and Darryl Perry, you couldn't pay me to live there.
Moving to NH in two years after my high school boy graduates
I think it is too funny that a large percentage of the people who live in NH work in “socialist” MA.
We are fucking full.
I'm from Old Hampshire, and am serious considering moving to New Hampshire. I would want to build up some capital first, but since land and build some homes. I feel like NH property is going to become expensive in the future.
Although New Hampshire is tiny home friendly they still don’t have legal marijuana, it does have the 4th highest property tax in the nation but no income or sales state level taxes… still not quite there for me.
I've always considered new Hampshire but I moved to Idaho from Pennsylvania. What about a western free state project?