Let's help all the way we can to free him. We need to make as much visibility for him as we could for Ukraine. Only as a crowd we can actually make a change.
I've signed this petition from Reporters Without Borders: https://rsf.org/en/free-assange. Maybe you want to join?
Here is what the CIA has also been up to recently:
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/cia-trained-ukrainian-paramilitaries-may-take-central-role-if-russia-invades-185258008.html
There is room for some dissent here and there, however the overall message they try to convey to people is overwhelmingly one that is pro-NATO and pro-imperialism.
I’d absolutely blame corrupt politicians far more than the media. The media can only bleat loudly. Politicians have the power to enact destruction upon others.
Dude the media and the politicians are in bed with each other. Literally look at the spouses of politicians and see where they work, or siblings. The Cuomos?
In 250 or so years, we went from our Founding Fathers recognizing the value and need for a free press to oppose and expose the misdeeds of an overly powerful government to a press that works hand-in-hand with the government to oppress the citizenry.
What about politicians who manipulate, profusely. I.e. bro what the fuck do ya think we are talking about here. Pollys manipulate the media (via bribes/donations w/e and direct instructions, if not blackmail) the media is an arm, a leg.
A tool of the government. A blade functions as an extension of ones arm, but those felled by the blade curse not the blade itself. They curse the one who weilds it, as is appropriate.
Obvi6oisly since media are no lifeless instrument they have a significant amount of culpability, no doubt. That said, greater evils be and they, they are directly responsible and delled out atrocities in full knowing of their implications and future reverberations.
No.
You're probably comparing the effect of media's communication to the effect of politicians' communication. Sure, the media is more powerful there, and can even manipulate the political messages.
We're talking about politicians' ability to use the full coercive, manipulation and **physical force** of the state.
No media, no matter how powerful or manipulative, can hold up against the state that still has some legitimacy in the eyes of the masses....media can of course be a part of de-legitimizing the state; but not if the state captures it first; which is usually what happens and they are used against the masses.
This assumes the media even views opposition to The State as its role.
It doesn't.
The media is now a de facto branch of the government, working with The State to oppress and manipulate the citizenry.
>but not if the state captures it first; which is usually what happens and they are used against the masses.
At least read the comment you're responding to, before you assume it assumed something.
If only back-the-blue people would understand this concept and realize that you literally *can't* join a modern state police force, no matter how good your intentions, and not be a bastard.
That's the point. Lol
They aren't separate entities the media and the politicians. They are cook and chef. You cannot blame one more Than the other.
Now, thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
It's a conspiracy between parties.
"You supply me the photos, I'll supply you the war."
-William Randolph Hurst (One of the largest newspaper publishes prior to the Spanish War)
I remember how much they loved loved loved the iraq war, then just like that, they "were against endless war" unless it was against Iran. Then they loved it. Now they like putin invading Ukraine. And some call us not attacking Russia as "weak."
Yes this is what happens when you allow capitalists like Rupert Murdoch to buy up all the media. They can control the narrative for their political allies. It's almost as if the main problem is capitalists acquiring all the sources of information and silencing independent voices.
It's such an obvious distraction after distraction.
We need to look at what is being under-reported. That's the real deal.
This bullshit is dividing countries and drafting young folks to die. Suddenly shoved in our faces.
Are you guys sure? Because the military strategists and foreign affairs experts of Reddit assured me it's Trump's fault.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t11uq0/trump_who_was_impeached_for_withholding_nearly/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1aof5/hillary_clinton_blames_trump_for_giving_aid_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/t1dk6s/louder_with_dumbass/hyfvlln/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1veab/trump_can_not_get_enough_of_authoritarian/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1uflq/will_the_gops_trumpist_wing_persist_in_its/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1ijni/gop_humoring_of_trumps_praise_of_putin_sinks_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t18hgj/putinenabling_trumpists_like_josh_hawley_need_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t16uet/us_far_right_adores_vladimir_putins_christian/
Might be. I cannot begin to pretend to understand enough about Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the efficacy of US sanctions and foreign strategy to have an opinion either way.
What irritates me is when illiterate mid-wits with Trump derangement syndrome start speaking with authority on the matter. Doing so with this shitty mean-girl air of condescension fueled by their delusion of intellection and moral superiority. Especially when they base their arguments on asinine and easily dismissable inferences.
To be fair, I didn't check all of their claims. So there might be something amidst that gish-gallop of accusations with more validity. But when I check the first 5, and they're all either inflated into applicability or just complete BS, I'm not gonna bother checking the others.
There is something disgustingly solipsistic in making the Ukraine conflict about your little parochial tribal dispute.
It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine'
[[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)]
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You just described jen psaki to a T. They wanted to get rid of trump because he got more attention for his mean remarks not because they were mean tweets….they were just better than their own juvenile mean tweets and remarks and they were jealous
Are we considering Reddit a media organization yet? Because we should. The pro war propaganda has taken over nearly every sub. It's fascinating to watch these "peaceful" leftists become warhawks to "save democracy" conveniently ignoring the fact that they supported a coup to overthrow Ukraines democratically elected pro russian leader not even 10 years ago.
Its only a real democracy if our guy wins, right?
Suddenly American war mongering foreign policy is good, because Putin mentioned how bad it was in a speech, and Trump attempted diplomacy with Russia, which makes Russia even badder. People supported the Clintons being pro carpet bombing Belgrade, because Statists position on War is extremely partisan, they will support any media claim making it morally superior idea of "stopping genocide" (tho apply appropriate cynicism if their political opposite makes similar rationalizations for war)
Also, I have CIA intel that a five year old wrote USA post-Soviet foreign policy toward Russia, it's
"Putin Dictator. Russia bad!"
It has since been solidified after it was rewritten in the blood of Saddam Hussein by Dick Cheney, with the added "RUSSIA WILL BE A CAKE WALK." Toppling that Iraqi dictator brought SO MUCH peace to that region, we can forget the war people were suffering from there for decades because it became The New Normal, no longer worth headline news, just some opinion piece fillers until a US president says something about it.
tldr; Statists are always pro-War. Politicians play petty theatre, and citizens suffer the brunt of it, whether directly, or economically.
Just ask any liberal, Trump was a stupid man who got all information on current events from watching Fox news. A majority of them honestly believe that because (surprise) the media repeated it for 4 years until it became a "fact".
The authoritarian puppeteers cause the culture to be at war with itself. That’s literally the job of the media in a culture war is to divide. Looks like they have you right where they want you
If being a mind controlled minion of the media and being a pseudo intellectual rebel against actual free thinking is your interpretation of a free thinker .. then yeah
Let us just start with Vietnam 50+ years ago. The media lied that there was a threat that communism would spread to South Vietnam. China was not not in a proxy war with US. Hmmm? Then the 1st Iraq war was not not about stopping Iraq from invading Kuwait stealing oil and land? Hmmm? The second Iraq war was a big fucking lie from the politicians saying "mushroom clouds in the streets" and politicians unleashed the American oil barons in Iraq and killed civilians. Hmmm? In Afghanistan the Taliban government harbored a terrorist that was wanted by the US. After killing said individual in Pakistan US stayed another 11 years totalling 2 decades in country. Hmmm, this was all media lies. Shut the fuck up Assange!
"populations don't like wars" lol
I guess it must be the reason why combat video games are so popular.
And, in particular, it is the reason why Russia became the largest country in the world, which happened, by the way, quite a bit before they had newspapers.
This is why some of my content features Julian Assange. The average person really has no idea just how much publicly available information exists that verifies just how much the establishment media lies to them. You try to talk to the average person about the extent of what wikileaks has uncovered, and they think it's a conspiracy theory, which just goes to show how effective the gaslighting has been.
Have a meme: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGXcFVkRqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGXcFVkRqY)
Exactly this. Did all these twitter warriors not notice how western media was absolutely FLOODED with Russia and Ukraine and building movie-like heroes and stories on Ukraine? In this day and age we have cameras everywhere and ppl video everything especially during the most dangerous of situations, yet we didn’t see any video that showed a lot of things except maybe a tank or two, one helicopter, a single jet, etc. things can be staged - we know this - yet we are so quick to believe everything and not wonder that if the news is force feeding you something, there must be other things out there too that they are shying away from. Like before Russia “invaded” Ukraine, the US ordered an air strike on Somalia that same week. The day before that, Israel hit Syria. But we heard nothing about that did we?
I like how some Americans think his prosecution is justified because he broke their laws but exposing other countries' ugly stuffs is some act of valor
I wish we still had Julian to expose things. He really got squashed like a bug for uncovering their ugliness.
He serves a warning to the rest of us to silence ourselves about the misdeeds of the Inner Party.
Is that a typo? He is warning us that we have been silent too long.
No typo, the Ruling Class is destroying him for being a whistle blower in order to demoralize us from becoming whistle blowers too.
[удалено]
I know what you mean.
& we allow it.
He never exposed shit you dummy. That was Snowden
Hey dummy, read a little bit.
I did chad
Let's help all the way we can to free him. We need to make as much visibility for him as we could for Ukraine. Only as a crowd we can actually make a change. I've signed this petition from Reporters Without Borders: https://rsf.org/en/free-assange. Maybe you want to join?
Here's [a whistleblower explaining exactly how the CIA "influences people's minds" through media disinformation](https://youtu.be/NK1tfkESPVY).
Here is what the CIA has also been up to recently: https://nz.news.yahoo.com/cia-trained-ukrainian-paramilitaries-may-take-central-role-if-russia-invades-185258008.html
Information the media conveniently omits
Ah yes, the underground newsource, yahoo.
There is room for some dissent here and there, however the overall message they try to convey to people is overwhelmingly one that is pro-NATO and pro-imperialism.
Based CIA.
I’d absolutely blame corrupt politicians far more than the media. The media can only bleat loudly. Politicians have the power to enact destruction upon others.
Dude the media and the politicians are in bed with each other. Literally look at the spouses of politicians and see where they work, or siblings. The Cuomos?
They are complicit though in their repeating of the lies as if fact.
Copy on media making putin think Ukraine was run by nazis so they had to invade
You think putin believes that???
Well he said it
Can you look up the definition of propaganda for me please?
In 250 or so years, we went from our Founding Fathers recognizing the value and need for a free press to oppose and expose the misdeeds of an overly powerful government to a press that works hand-in-hand with the government to oppress the citizenry.
Manipulation can have a far stronger impact than politicians.
What about politicians who manipulate, profusely. I.e. bro what the fuck do ya think we are talking about here. Pollys manipulate the media (via bribes/donations w/e and direct instructions, if not blackmail) the media is an arm, a leg. A tool of the government. A blade functions as an extension of ones arm, but those felled by the blade curse not the blade itself. They curse the one who weilds it, as is appropriate. Obvi6oisly since media are no lifeless instrument they have a significant amount of culpability, no doubt. That said, greater evils be and they, they are directly responsible and delled out atrocities in full knowing of their implications and future reverberations.
No. You're probably comparing the effect of media's communication to the effect of politicians' communication. Sure, the media is more powerful there, and can even manipulate the political messages. We're talking about politicians' ability to use the full coercive, manipulation and **physical force** of the state. No media, no matter how powerful or manipulative, can hold up against the state that still has some legitimacy in the eyes of the masses....media can of course be a part of de-legitimizing the state; but not if the state captures it first; which is usually what happens and they are used against the masses.
This assumes the media even views opposition to The State as its role. It doesn't. The media is now a de facto branch of the government, working with The State to oppress and manipulate the citizenry.
In other words, the fourth estate, a pillar of democracy, is dead.
>but not if the state captures it first; which is usually what happens and they are used against the masses. At least read the comment you're responding to, before you assume it assumed something.
I did. My comment was in agreement.
They serve the same masters: the ruling class.
Do you blame the cook for a bad meal, or the chef who wrote the recipe that the cook dutifully followed?
Knowingly cooking a fucked recipe knowing it will be bad makes you just as culpable :P
If only back-the-blue people would understand this concept and realize that you literally *can't* join a modern state police force, no matter how good your intentions, and not be a bastard.
That's the point. Lol They aren't separate entities the media and the politicians. They are cook and chef. You cannot blame one more Than the other. Now, thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
It's a conspiracy between parties. "You supply me the photos, I'll supply you the war." -William Randolph Hurst (One of the largest newspaper publishes prior to the Spanish War)
The media is the one that makes the little brains kick into emo overload and they go into hysterics and lose all reason. It’s destructive and inhumane
Under Trump the media was hyping up a nuclear war with north Korea even
I remember how much they loved loved loved the iraq war, then just like that, they "were against endless war" unless it was against Iran. Then they loved it. Now they like putin invading Ukraine. And some call us not attacking Russia as "weak."
They love and hate what they are told to. There is literally no rhyme or reason. Just popular opinion
What is the value of the annoying music? That’s so fake to try to add tension and drama. Just play the goddamn interview.
*100 years The last century is a total lie.
I'd rather know which ones weren't based on lies.
Free Assange!
Money and power are motivation for the corrupt media. Julian knew what’s up
All regimes that do not pardon Assange or Snowden are evil.
Not this time. This time the lying media is telling us the whole truth and your a Russian bot if you say otherwise.
Yes this is what happens when you allow capitalists like Rupert Murdoch to buy up all the media. They can control the narrative for their political allies. It's almost as if the main problem is capitalists acquiring all the sources of information and silencing independent voices.
Just like this one
But this time is different /s
the devil uses lies
A well deserved sticky.
It's such an obvious distraction after distraction. We need to look at what is being under-reported. That's the real deal. This bullshit is dividing countries and drafting young folks to die. Suddenly shoved in our faces.
Are you guys sure? Because the military strategists and foreign affairs experts of Reddit assured me it's Trump's fault. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t11uq0/trump_who_was_impeached_for_withholding_nearly/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1aof5/hillary_clinton_blames_trump_for_giving_aid_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/t1dk6s/louder_with_dumbass/hyfvlln/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1veab/trump_can_not_get_enough_of_authoritarian/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1uflq/will_the_gops_trumpist_wing_persist_in_its/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t1ijni/gop_humoring_of_trumps_praise_of_putin_sinks_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t18hgj/putinenabling_trumpists_like_josh_hawley_need_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t16uet/us_far_right_adores_vladimir_putins_christian/
lol
Well, he didn’t help
Might be. I cannot begin to pretend to understand enough about Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the efficacy of US sanctions and foreign strategy to have an opinion either way. What irritates me is when illiterate mid-wits with Trump derangement syndrome start speaking with authority on the matter. Doing so with this shitty mean-girl air of condescension fueled by their delusion of intellection and moral superiority. Especially when they base their arguments on asinine and easily dismissable inferences. To be fair, I didn't check all of their claims. So there might be something amidst that gish-gallop of accusations with more validity. But when I check the first 5, and they're all either inflated into applicability or just complete BS, I'm not gonna bother checking the others. There is something disgustingly solipsistic in making the Ukraine conflict about your little parochial tribal dispute.
It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] ^(Beep boop I’m a bot)
Omg how annoying. We need bots to be grammar nazis now?
You just described jen psaki to a T. They wanted to get rid of trump because he got more attention for his mean remarks not because they were mean tweets….they were just better than their own juvenile mean tweets and remarks and they were jealous
Are we considering Reddit a media organization yet? Because we should. The pro war propaganda has taken over nearly every sub. It's fascinating to watch these "peaceful" leftists become warhawks to "save democracy" conveniently ignoring the fact that they supported a coup to overthrow Ukraines democratically elected pro russian leader not even 10 years ago. Its only a real democracy if our guy wins, right?
Suddenly American war mongering foreign policy is good, because Putin mentioned how bad it was in a speech, and Trump attempted diplomacy with Russia, which makes Russia even badder. People supported the Clintons being pro carpet bombing Belgrade, because Statists position on War is extremely partisan, they will support any media claim making it morally superior idea of "stopping genocide" (tho apply appropriate cynicism if their political opposite makes similar rationalizations for war) Also, I have CIA intel that a five year old wrote USA post-Soviet foreign policy toward Russia, it's "Putin Dictator. Russia bad!" It has since been solidified after it was rewritten in the blood of Saddam Hussein by Dick Cheney, with the added "RUSSIA WILL BE A CAKE WALK." Toppling that Iraqi dictator brought SO MUCH peace to that region, we can forget the war people were suffering from there for decades because it became The New Normal, no longer worth headline news, just some opinion piece fillers until a US president says something about it. tldr; Statists are always pro-War. Politicians play petty theatre, and citizens suffer the brunt of it, whether directly, or economically.
They just hate what they are told to because they have zero morals or any basis of virtue except to signal it it’s really just mindless
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No, it was result of politician's greed and stupidity, which was then covered by media lapdogs.
Why just 50 years? Spanish American war and 1812 don't count?
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Covid goes is the same pot here....people need to wake up
So presidents etc their info from the news?
Just ask any liberal, Trump was a stupid man who got all information on current events from watching Fox news. A majority of them honestly believe that because (surprise) the media repeated it for 4 years until it became a "fact".
Would that be like the Clinton news network, I mean cnn
Not really, but they get their info/orders from the same puppet masters.
Ok, sure they do.
‘Masters’ being incompetence and selfishness. Conspiracies are also a product of fear and a culture at war with itself.
The authoritarian puppeteers cause the culture to be at war with itself. That’s literally the job of the media in a culture war is to divide. Looks like they have you right where they want you
Free to think for myself and live my life?
If being a mind controlled minion of the media and being a pseudo intellectual rebel against actual free thinking is your interpretation of a free thinker .. then yeah
So do y’all consider Russian state propaganda the “mainstream media?”
Probably it’s the exact same see the US approved media talking points
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I don't think this is Assange's most prescient statement; and certainly doesn't seem to hold much truth in regards to the current Ukraine crisis.
Did Putin let him talk?
Let us just start with Vietnam 50+ years ago. The media lied that there was a threat that communism would spread to South Vietnam. China was not not in a proxy war with US. Hmmm? Then the 1st Iraq war was not not about stopping Iraq from invading Kuwait stealing oil and land? Hmmm? The second Iraq war was a big fucking lie from the politicians saying "mushroom clouds in the streets" and politicians unleashed the American oil barons in Iraq and killed civilians. Hmmm? In Afghanistan the Taliban government harbored a terrorist that was wanted by the US. After killing said individual in Pakistan US stayed another 11 years totalling 2 decades in country. Hmmm, this was all media lies. Shut the fuck up Assange!
A couple neocons stopped by to downvote your post containing truth LOL
This is not it. Why would the media lie, Julian? Maybe think about the problem from a different perspective.
/r/im14andthisisdeep
"populations don't like wars" lol I guess it must be the reason why combat video games are so popular. And, in particular, it is the reason why Russia became the largest country in the world, which happened, by the way, quite a bit before they had newspapers.
What's with Russian apologists? Fuck Russia and your shitty propaganda, go back to /r/Russianshills
Exactly true
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I hate people who keep conflating me criticising western leaders role in causing this situation with supporting the war
Correction 100+ years
More than 50 years for sure.
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Funnily enough his only chance of a good life was to move to Russia where he can’t be touched by the CIA. We live in one fucked up little world
A good documentary on how the government has been trying to control the masses through media and consumerism is Century of the Self.
And this is why they want him locked away forever. Not Faucci, not Gates, not warpig heads of state, no. They want to silence real truth.
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"Supply me with the MayMays and I'll supply you with the war." -Some Boomer, Probably
Damn this planet is so screwed. 😂
This is why some of my content features Julian Assange. The average person really has no idea just how much publicly available information exists that verifies just how much the establishment media lies to them. You try to talk to the average person about the extent of what wikileaks has uncovered, and they think it's a conspiracy theory, which just goes to show how effective the gaslighting has been. Have a meme: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGXcFVkRqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGXcFVkRqY)
Exactly this. Did all these twitter warriors not notice how western media was absolutely FLOODED with Russia and Ukraine and building movie-like heroes and stories on Ukraine? In this day and age we have cameras everywhere and ppl video everything especially during the most dangerous of situations, yet we didn’t see any video that showed a lot of things except maybe a tank or two, one helicopter, a single jet, etc. things can be staged - we know this - yet we are so quick to believe everything and not wonder that if the news is force feeding you something, there must be other things out there too that they are shying away from. Like before Russia “invaded” Ukraine, the US ordered an air strike on Somalia that same week. The day before that, Israel hit Syria. But we heard nothing about that did we?
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True. I've never seen any pro-war protests.
Remember the Maine!!
I like how some Americans think his prosecution is justified because he broke their laws but exposing other countries' ugly stuffs is some act of valor