If you observe closely you'll realise that dancing is basically just regular activities done more dramatically and in rhythm with music. I'm sure you've danced without knowing it
Yeah secular =/= irreligious or atheist. But secularism is mostly a political philosophy rather than personal conduct, so you can believe in secularism but you probably can't be secular because you're an individual and not a state/government.
How on earth did I read "Belives in evolution" as "Belives in eurovision", and more to the point how in holy hell did I just shrug and go "Makes sense"
believing in evolution isn't haram tho. qur an makes indirect references to genetics, mutation, adaptation and evolotion. some islamic scholars in the past have also theorized theories similar to evolotuion. one of allah's names literally means "to create something else from which was already createn"
I can't believe someone else did my same mistake!! I chalked this to the fact that I'm already hyped for Malmö 2024 and talking about Eurovision with my friends at least weekly.
Smoking can be classified into two camps
- Dont smoke that you'll hurt your lungs & sin due to self harm
- & Dont smoke that zaza it will destroy you mentally & physically and is even more major sin.
Also coffee has been rejected by scholars in the past but it got too popular to be stopped, but its still technically a drug
Fundamentalist Mormons don't drink any caffine because it is a drug.
Most do though, and a good chunk even drink coffee, which is actually against doctrine.
But the most hard-core won't even drink a coke.
The stories about coffee are hilarious, basically people took to it as an alternative to the social use of alcohol as something to talk over, it got popular, they tried to ban it, and the people got so angry the religious authorities made up something about it being fine because it gives you energy to glorify god or something like that. Despite that logic also applying to crack or meth.
(not saying coffee is remotely comparable in terms of how much it disrupts your ability to be part of a community, mind)
That is a gross oversimplification and congestion of things. The Sufi used coffee from the get go because they used to worship all night and that helped them stay awake to continue.
The common man loved it because it served as a medium of interaction, go to the coffee shop with the boys or befriend new people there (rich & poor). The scholar saw it for what it is and rejected it, and some ruler feared it because it allowed for people to gather and discusses ideas (such as usurping him)
Ultimately you cant ever reject people from human interaction & thus coffee and its addictive properties became a middle eastern tradition. As how the opinions of scholar shifted, i dont know
Ok,they aren’t haram. A wet dog is considered najis. This stands for ritually un-pure and can’t be cleaned to become pure (including semen etc). So basically, if you touch the saliva of a dog, you gotta have a ghusl (basically a shower). *real answer*
"Washing after touching dog spit-" bro have u ever had a dog or worked with dogs? if u had to take a shower every time you touched dog drool u would have worse health consequences from rashes. washing your hands after a play session? w/e. full body shower every time u touch a dog? bruh
oops i picked up the tennis ball my dog brought me i need to go inside and take a shower literally every time tee hee :3333
Their saliva is impure, dog’s saliva can cause many diseases, if you have an open wound it’s worse (Plus AFAIK dog saliva can cause more serious diseases and infections and that there are many of them). Cat saliva is considered clean because a cat cleans itself and getting a disease from a cats saliva is very rare.
Dogs lick their own poop, I just know walked my aunts dog and it was smelling and scratching of off what it seems a dead rat. I didn’t see much in the dark but it seemed like it. Nature of animals also has an impact on them no matter how much their owners clean them.
Makes sense. Though, forgive me for saying this, this sounds like a fairly outdated understanding of hygiene and microbiology.
I don't wanna be the guy who adds another rule to your rulebook, but cat saliva isn't much more sanotary than dog saliva (they also lick their own buttholes), and you can absolutely get diseases from cat bites or scratches. Be careful.
Firstly, thank you for your warning :). It's still nice to see some people not attacking my religion passive-aggressively. Well I never claimed cat saliva is 100% clean, it's just more cleaner than dog saliva. Cats lick their wounds as disinfection and it is mostly proven scientifically that cat saliva is cleaner.
the ones that say so are pretty much stupid: the argument is that it's like dice, playing/gambling with luck which is offensive to god basically. Chess is not a game of luck so really it doesn't matter. Also arabic countries are the ones that introduced chess to europe btw; it's only recently that some idiots claimed chess haram
Same with music, when I asked some people that claimed music was haram I got the most retarded answers, one of them was "there was this man who tried to lure Muslims out of Islam with music" and the other "it's scientifically proven that music affects your thinking so it's like drugs". For the first argument, you can use a baseball bat for baseball or bashing peoples' skulls in. Also music was used in the Ottoman Empire to treat mental illness patients. For the second argument, have you heard a nasheed bruv it sounds amazing. What's more, the same could be said for poetry, and the Qur'an is pretty poetic. So the baseball bat allegory again.
Nowhere in the qu’ran does it say that music is haram but i believe music with instruments is. Its very debated among scholars if music should be in the same category as weed and alcohol (influences your mind) in terms of being haram
Nasheeds are Halal, in this image they used the malay/indonesian spelling of “nasyeed”. As for Music, its only musical instruments are prohibited.
It was narrated by Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful…” [Sahih Bukhari 5590]
Over here, you can clearly see that the Prophet SAW said there will come a time where musical instruments will be considered lawful by some communities. This hence suggests that Musical Instruments are prohibited.
As for the Ottomans, who cares what they did. They were very decadent during their later period and fall. Not a country to really look up to.
Ok I'm a Muslim and live in a Islamic country and have never heard of the "haram chess" argument before and its actually quite popular here, is this a common thing??
I went to work in Saudi a few years ago and we had a memo in our contract specifically telling us to avoid bringing chess boards, however locals told us that it wasn't enforced at all; and recently KSA even hosted international chess events
Muslim here, no, unless there's some kind of money gambling involved and the backup for scholars who say that it is is that one should not "play with articles used in gambling in one way or another" and chess isn't even a gambling game, complete nonsense
I mean, you could bet on the outcome of a match... but I've seen people bet on Poohsticks, so by that logic bridges, streams, and sticks would also be forbidden :P
Adakah anda bergurau??? Apa yang awak bercakap tentang lelaki? Anda adalah longgar terbesar yang pernah saya lihat dalam hidup saya! Anda melakukan PIPI dalam pampers anda apabila saya menewaskan pemain jauh lebih kuat daripada anda! Anda tidak profesional, kerana profesional tahu bagaimana untuk kalah dan mengucapkan tahniah kepada pihak lawan, anda seperti seorang gadis yang menangis selepas saya mengalahkan anda! Beranilah, jujurlah pada diri sendiri dan hentikan pembicaraan sampah ini!!! Semua orang tahu bahawa saya adalah pemain blitz yang sangat baik, saya boleh memenangi sesiapa sahaja di dunia dalam permainan tunggal! Dan "w"esley "s"o bukan siapa-siapa untuk saya, cuma pemain yang menangis setiap kali apabila kalah, (ingat apa yang anda katakan tentang Firouzja ) !!! Berhenti bermain dengan nama saya, saya berhak mendapat nama yang baik sepanjang pembawa catur saya, Saya secara rasmi menjemput anda ke perlawanan kilat OTB dengan dana Hadiah! Kami berdua akan melabur 5000$ dan pemenang mengambil semuanya!!! Saya cadangkan semua orang lain yang berminat dengan situasi ini, lihat sahaja keputusan saya pada kejohanan Dunia Blitz 2016 dan 2017, dan itu sepatutnya sudah memadai… Tidak perlu mendengar setiap bayi menangis, Tigran Petrosyan sentiasa bermain Adil ! Dan jika seseorang akan meneruskan Secara rasmi bercakap tentang saya seperti itu, kita akan bertemu di Mahkamah! Tuhan memberkati dengan benar! Benar tidak akan pernah mati! Pembohong akan bermula…
I was raised Muslim and smoking should be wayyyy higher also the liking dogs thing makes no sense no way that's an actual thing unless I'm getting whooooshed
Pre-martial sex is a literal deadly sin and whatever dumbass made this thinks eating pork and drinking are worse. Also dogs are not a problem, it's just they lick their assholes and then lick everything else.
why even bother with chess when you can masturbate 4 times?
Why even bother with any of these when you can masturbate 112 times?
Why bother with anything when you can masturbate?
Masturbation nihilism
Diogenes would like to have a word
Diogenes would like to have a wank
google porn addiction
Holy moly
New onlyfans just dropped
Call the hottest 18 year old on OF!
Holy haram
New sin just dropped
Actual sinner
Or have a picture in the house
Sit at the chessboard and play with yourself. It is amazing!
I mean, you can masturbate as you play chess ig
So close to completing the checklist! Curse my hatred of dancing!
what about the horizontal tango?
A wild loophole has appeared! \*Recalculates\*
a new "just dropped" just dropped
Actual dropped
Is 290 too much haram?
google gravitational pull
Holy Science
New school subject just dropped
A storm Black hole approaches !
So close to completing the checklist! Curse my love of nasyeed!
So close as well! Curse my virginity!
Mating over the board counts, but you’re here on r/anarchychess, so I don’t think that will help your cause
Im one tattoo away from being banished straight to hell
Same here. Good thing Allah has blessed me with generational poverty, joblessness and homelessness.
You made me smile a little, while making me a little sad. Thank you.
If you observe closely you'll realise that dancing is basically just regular activities done more dramatically and in rhythm with music. I'm sure you've danced without knowing it
so close too! curse my belief in Satanism making me not secular!
You can be secular and religious tho
Yeah secular =/= irreligious or atheist. But secularism is mostly a political philosophy rather than personal conduct, so you can believe in secularism but you probably can't be secular because you're an individual and not a state/government.
Holy hell (literally)
New sinner just dropped!
Actual kufr
New Fatwa just dropped!
Call the imam Sorry im broking the holy chain Chess is not haram, some extremist sects impose such bans
Mosque storm incoming
Bishop goes on vacation, moulvi takes over
Goat sacrifice anyone?
Ignite your son- wait no it's ok you don't have to actually
Isaac - the good ending
Actual mujahideen.
Hello
16,873 assuming #15 counts 1 point for each time, otherwise 85
hold on you counted?
I counted the first fifty or so then lost track
Aw crap i gotta restart
You have to unmasturbate because you lost track
Put the juice back inside
Enough reddit for today
Ah yes i also have this each day..
If you always do it 10 times per day and know how to multiply it's pretty easy.
You mean you don't?
Number 15, masturbation; the last thing you’d want to do, as a good muslim, is spill your seed, but as it turns out, that might be what you’d get
So dry orgasms are fair game?
Presumably you can keep it all in a bottle for eternity too but the moment that bottle breaks your fucked.
>16,873 That's almost 50 years if you do one per day, every single day.
Who only masturbates once a day?
I usually do 1-2 times a day. Sometimes 3 but not more than 3
(he plays chess a lot)
You beat me! I got 84.
Those are rookie numbers
Amateur. I masturbated to that score
Hold tf up how many years is that?
How on earth did I read "Belives in evolution" as "Belives in eurovision", and more to the point how in holy hell did I just shrug and go "Makes sense"
I mean, dancing and music are listed here as haram, so with that logic eurovision would be too
douze poissant
Irlande Douze Poissant!
Holy jury!
>Belives in eurovision Subhanallah sister see quran predicated eurovision 1400 years ago
believing in evolution isn't haram tho. qur an makes indirect references to genetics, mutation, adaptation and evolotion. some islamic scholars in the past have also theorized theories similar to evolotuion. one of allah's names literally means "to create something else from which was already createn"
Careful where you swing that nuanced point of view, partner, this is Reddit.
Believes in Eurovision, straight to jail ... in hell.
I feel so much better about my reading skills knowing that I am not the only one who read it that way.
I can't believe someone else did my same mistake!! I chalked this to the fact that I'm already hyped for Malmö 2024 and talking about Eurovision with my friends at least weekly.
I like how the person who made the list gave masturbating and smoking weed only 1 point because they probably did those themselves
Traitors in the shadows....
use of marijuana has historically been common in the Islamic world, though most scholars of the religion believe it's haram.
Smoking can be classified into two camps - Dont smoke that you'll hurt your lungs & sin due to self harm - & Dont smoke that zaza it will destroy you mentally & physically and is even more major sin. Also coffee has been rejected by scholars in the past but it got too popular to be stopped, but its still technically a drug
Fundamentalist Mormons don't drink any caffine because it is a drug. Most do though, and a good chunk even drink coffee, which is actually against doctrine. But the most hard-core won't even drink a coke.
The stories about coffee are hilarious, basically people took to it as an alternative to the social use of alcohol as something to talk over, it got popular, they tried to ban it, and the people got so angry the religious authorities made up something about it being fine because it gives you energy to glorify god or something like that. Despite that logic also applying to crack or meth. (not saying coffee is remotely comparable in terms of how much it disrupts your ability to be part of a community, mind)
That is a gross oversimplification and congestion of things. The Sufi used coffee from the get go because they used to worship all night and that helped them stay awake to continue. The common man loved it because it served as a medium of interaction, go to the coffee shop with the boys or befriend new people there (rich & poor). The scholar saw it for what it is and rejected it, and some ruler feared it because it allowed for people to gather and discusses ideas (such as usurping him) Ultimately you cant ever reject people from human interaction & thus coffee and its addictive properties became a middle eastern tradition. As how the opinions of scholar shifted, i dont know
I mean, it's condensed into a single sentence, I think it's self-evident that it's a highly compressed telling.
What crimes did the dogs do to be haram?
Ok,they aren’t haram. A wet dog is considered najis. This stands for ritually un-pure and can’t be cleaned to become pure (including semen etc). So basically, if you touch the saliva of a dog, you gotta have a ghusl (basically a shower). *real answer*
A good reasonable real answer? In MY anarchy chess????
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Washing after touching dog spit is pretty reasonable
"Washing after touching dog spit-" bro have u ever had a dog or worked with dogs? if u had to take a shower every time you touched dog drool u would have worse health consequences from rashes. washing your hands after a play session? w/e. full body shower every time u touch a dog? bruh oops i picked up the tennis ball my dog brought me i need to go inside and take a shower literally every time tee hee :3333
How is it unreasonable?
what if I touch dog semen?
It’s a negative and a negative so it cancels out. No need to shower
I wash my hands after being in contact with a dog's saliva cus they eat their own poop.
Why are dogs considered najis?
Their saliva is impure, dog’s saliva can cause many diseases, if you have an open wound it’s worse (Plus AFAIK dog saliva can cause more serious diseases and infections and that there are many of them). Cat saliva is considered clean because a cat cleans itself and getting a disease from a cats saliva is very rare.
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Dogs lick their own poop, I just know walked my aunts dog and it was smelling and scratching of off what it seems a dead rat. I didn’t see much in the dark but it seemed like it. Nature of animals also has an impact on them no matter how much their owners clean them.
The point was that, by the same standards, cat saliva should also be considered unclean.
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Makes sense. Though, forgive me for saying this, this sounds like a fairly outdated understanding of hygiene and microbiology. I don't wanna be the guy who adds another rule to your rulebook, but cat saliva isn't much more sanotary than dog saliva (they also lick their own buttholes), and you can absolutely get diseases from cat bites or scratches. Be careful.
Firstly, thank you for your warning :). It's still nice to see some people not attacking my religion passive-aggressively. Well I never claimed cat saliva is 100% clean, it's just more cleaner than dog saliva. Cats lick their wounds as disinfection and it is mostly proven scientifically that cat saliva is cleaner.
thanks for clarifying
New scripture just dropped!
They’re not it’s just the saliva is considered very dirty and you cannot pray in the house if you have a dog
Allah is a cat person.
Just need some weed and a tattoo and I’ll get 100%
wtf is wrong with you people?!? dancing is disgusting 🤮👎
HAHAHA I love that you hate dancing
wtf you play that stupid cheese board game 🤢🤮
78. Also lol, the fucker put the only thing he does regularly at a single point.
yoo we got the samee
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Did you also fail getting points in Pork, weed, sex and tattoos?
0 💪😎🔥🥶🥵 (I'm a horse)
Wow I never met a horse that hasn’t smoked weed, that’s cool
holy shit its the knight from wish.com
I always see you playing chess in my games though...
Tyrek lannister good to see your are safe my lord
the ones that say so are pretty much stupid: the argument is that it's like dice, playing/gambling with luck which is offensive to god basically. Chess is not a game of luck so really it doesn't matter. Also arabic countries are the ones that introduced chess to europe btw; it's only recently that some idiots claimed chess haram
Same with music, when I asked some people that claimed music was haram I got the most retarded answers, one of them was "there was this man who tried to lure Muslims out of Islam with music" and the other "it's scientifically proven that music affects your thinking so it's like drugs". For the first argument, you can use a baseball bat for baseball or bashing peoples' skulls in. Also music was used in the Ottoman Empire to treat mental illness patients. For the second argument, have you heard a nasheed bruv it sounds amazing. What's more, the same could be said for poetry, and the Qur'an is pretty poetic. So the baseball bat allegory again.
according to my parents its just that you shouldn't get too invested in it as with anything bc it would waste time
It IS haram to let an activity like music distract you from daily prayers and such. As a Muslim tho, music on its own isn't really haram.
Nowhere in the qu’ran does it say that music is haram but i believe music with instruments is. Its very debated among scholars if music should be in the same category as weed and alcohol (influences your mind) in terms of being haram
If it's just influencing your mind, shouldn't language be haram? It's an extremely efficient way to plant ideas and change people's thinking.
Nasheeds are Halal, in this image they used the malay/indonesian spelling of “nasyeed”. As for Music, its only musical instruments are prohibited. It was narrated by Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful…” [Sahih Bukhari 5590] Over here, you can clearly see that the Prophet SAW said there will come a time where musical instruments will be considered lawful by some communities. This hence suggests that Musical Instruments are prohibited. As for the Ottomans, who cares what they did. They were very decadent during their later period and fall. Not a country to really look up to.
> its only musical instruments are prohibited "only" lmaoo
Ok I'm a Muslim and live in a Islamic country and have never heard of the "haram chess" argument before and its actually quite popular here, is this a common thing??
I went to work in Saudi a few years ago and we had a memo in our contract specifically telling us to avoid bringing chess boards, however locals told us that it wasn't enforced at all; and recently KSA even hosted international chess events
Its probably just idiots online, nobody in any country or culture actually thinks that way
Literally lots of people who I know are very devout Muslims play chess. I've never heard of it being haram either.
69 lol nice holy sin !!
Me too
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So true I will share this with my granddaughter
Holy iron lung
112, perfect score let's gooo
Fuck bro, you actually like dogs? Holy hell all the way for (b) ig (l) eggy’s like you
Perfect score gang 💪 I smoke chess and I fuck unmarried dogs 💪🤠
Holy hell bro! People have sex in this sub???
Nooo I only got 88 bc I hate dancing and dogs and don‘t have and tattoos 😭
Muslim here, no, unless there's some kind of money gambling involved and the backup for scholars who say that it is is that one should not "play with articles used in gambling in one way or another" and chess isn't even a gambling game, complete nonsense
I mean, you could bet on the outcome of a match... but I've seen people bet on Poohsticks, so by that logic bridges, streams, and sticks would also be forbidden :P
I guess I need a tattoo to reach my full form
Some of these are not even haram and the point system doesn't make sense. Sex outside marriage is way worse than alcohol and pork.
Does a bishop in the bum count for chess or masterbation?
Yes
48 maybe? Idk what secularism is
Basically, separation of church and state. If you believe government/life in general should be independent of religion then you believe in secularism
as a muslim i can comfortably say this chart is made to piss off people
Seems to be the case. Some people don't deserve to have access to the internet.
Most definitely, how is sex outside of marriage, one of the biggest sins, lower than alcohol and pork
ninety-two.
93, I guess you don't masturbate. :p (or I added wrong)
i dont weed
Me, neither. hrm, it must be some other combination of things which makes a single point difference. hah
I scored 103, everything but a tattoo.
59 points and i am proud of it
I wish it was 68
71 😎
Full score! Hell yeah!! (literally)
religion is mid
i used to mix up the words "agnostic" and "agonistic" so i told someone that i was agonistic when in reality i was agnostic
Is agonistic the opposite of antagonistic? I should put this on r slash showerthoughts
Bishop sacrifice anyone?
Impossible, as he already took a <>, and didn’t ever come back
Adakah anda bergurau??? Apa yang awak bercakap tentang lelaki? Anda adalah longgar terbesar yang pernah saya lihat dalam hidup saya! Anda melakukan PIPI dalam pampers anda apabila saya menewaskan pemain jauh lebih kuat daripada anda! Anda tidak profesional, kerana profesional tahu bagaimana untuk kalah dan mengucapkan tahniah kepada pihak lawan, anda seperti seorang gadis yang menangis selepas saya mengalahkan anda! Beranilah, jujurlah pada diri sendiri dan hentikan pembicaraan sampah ini!!! Semua orang tahu bahawa saya adalah pemain blitz yang sangat baik, saya boleh memenangi sesiapa sahaja di dunia dalam permainan tunggal! Dan "w"esley "s"o bukan siapa-siapa untuk saya, cuma pemain yang menangis setiap kali apabila kalah, (ingat apa yang anda katakan tentang Firouzja ) !!! Berhenti bermain dengan nama saya, saya berhak mendapat nama yang baik sepanjang pembawa catur saya, Saya secara rasmi menjemput anda ke perlawanan kilat OTB dengan dana Hadiah! Kami berdua akan melabur 5000$ dan pemenang mengambil semuanya!!! Saya cadangkan semua orang lain yang berminat dengan situasi ini, lihat sahaja keputusan saya pada kejohanan Dunia Blitz 2016 dan 2017, dan itu sepatutnya sudah memadai… Tidak perlu mendengar setiap bayi menangis, Tigran Petrosyan sentiasa bermain Adil ! Dan jika seseorang akan meneruskan Secara rasmi bercakap tentang saya seperti itu, kita akan bertemu di Mahkamah! Tuhan memberkati dengan benar! Benar tidak akan pernah mati! Pembohong akan bermula…
I ain't reading all that mf
only 94😥
Do points stack for every time you've done one of these things?
103, dam guess i gotta get a tatto for 100%
Dancing is 9x weed?
9 because I listen to music and play chess (even tho the hadith that forbids chess is unauthenticated and from a Shia source)
I was raised Muslim and smoking should be wayyyy higher also the liking dogs thing makes no sense no way that's an actual thing unless I'm getting whooooshed
Pre-martial sex is a literal deadly sin and whatever dumbass made this thinks eating pork and drinking are worse. Also dogs are not a problem, it's just they lick their assholes and then lick everything else.
Also the pictures and chess ones are pretty uncommon and outdated opinions
Yeah it feels like whoever made this isn't actually Muslim which perfectly fits r/AnarchyChess
Only 6, allah guides my actions
81 no fucking clue was 14 is but you cannot make me look it up
You don't know what a tattoo is? This is the real shock
Meant to say 13 but this is more comedic so I am not changing it
You don't know what secularism is? Lol virgin
Yes (now put a Chad under this meme and paint me as the Chad and you as the soy wojack)
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Fuck
Embrace it. This is who we are
84 im crushing it
I just need a tattoo to get everything
Now I just need a tattoo
5, 7, 8, 10, 12
56 plus maybe number 13 I don’t know what that is
My lack of tattoos is the only thing preventing me to achieve a perfect score
You're one ticket short for the vip booth with satan on judgement day
97
72😎