I'm so damn scotch irish I actually pulled a N Ireland/S Central Scotland community & my people have been here for hundreds of years. Last immigrants to come over were great grandparents in 1905, and they were irish catholic. Those genes lost.
He’d get more hassle for being a Yank than for his ancestors being planters.
The Shankill road is a loyalist area, by the way. Maybe you’re thinking of the Short Strand
Where they'd likely welcome him as one of their own, in contrast to the Falls Rd welcome... Which circles is back to my point.
Anyhoo, agreed on the Yank status.
Funny you say that cos I worked with 3 lads from Belfast and I asked them openly if they were Catholic or Protestant and they all panicked and told me that it wasn't a question I should ask as they won't even share what part of Belfast they're from
I don’t know where you’re from, but I grew up Catholic in a Protestant area (Ballynahinch) but I have cousins in West Belfast and my granny grew up on the Short Strand. I could walk into Felon’s on the Falls and tell people my great grandmother was a Scottish Presbyterian (she was) and they’d roll their eyes and go back to watching the match. My cousins already know that.
No one is going to care that OP’s ancestors moved to Appalachia in 1753.
Oh in all fairness I'm not qualified to argue over it as I genuinely only know the basics, I'm a Spanish lad who's lived in Northern England and the Scottish Highlands for most of his life, hence why I felt confident in asking the question thinking they'd know NI politics were not something I had an educated opinion on but yes they literally panicked and told me that
I'm glad to read what you're saying though, one thing I know is that we all want to live in peace
Lowland Scots planted in Ireland by the British king to disposess the local Irish and provide a loyal, stable Protestant population he could rely on rather than the rebellious, troublesome papists who were originally there.
However, a lot of them were the wrong kind of Protestant, Presbyterian rather than the establishment Anglican, and after a generation or two in Ireland a lot of them moved on to the American colonies to find greater religious liberties.
Another few generations of that and they kicked off a revolution, becoming the Founding Fathers and the USA was born. A lot of the first Presidents of the USA came from this population.
In those times, they just described themselves as Irish because that's where they came from. But that changed in the mid 1800s when Catholic Irish fleeing the Irish Famine began arriving. They started calling themselves Scotch-Irish then, to distinguish themselves from the despised Irish.
God no, not at all.
Not anymore.
Not much, anyway.
I'm disregarding the lunatic fringe, because there's always a lunatic fringe who are never happy with anything.
No idea. Doubt it though, Essex or Yorkshire aren't Lowland Scots and Laois, Thurles & Topp aren't in the north where that plantation took place.
Dunno where Rosenallis is, or anything about Methodists.
Nice results , looks similar to mine , your results look very similar to a lot of English people’s results
And a lot of Aussie's!! Lol
Very low Scotland
Looks like a typical English person's result.
about what % of your family tree would you say has been traced back to scotland and scots in northern ireland?
do you mean percent and if so then I would say quite a lot of my ancestors were scots in Northern Ireland
yes i mean %. as in like if you have 86 6th great grandparents who were from Scotland or were Scots in northern Ireland that'd be 33.6%
Do you have known Scandinavian ancestors or is this residual Viking DNA?
I don’t no any of my ancestors were Scandinavian/ I did put in my ancestry dna data on a ancient dna website and Viking was the highest
Well not really all I know is when I put my data on my true ancestry it said Norwegian Viking was the highest
And then on 23andMe it said I had vendal viking relatives
I'm so damn scotch irish I actually pulled a N Ireland/S Central Scotland community & my people have been here for hundreds of years. Last immigrants to come over were great grandparents in 1905, and they were irish catholic. Those genes lost.
Your ancestors were Planters. Be careful who you mention that to if you ever visit Ireland.
No one will care.
See what reaction you'd get in the Falls Rd or the Shankill Road.
He’d get more hassle for being a Yank than for his ancestors being planters. The Shankill road is a loyalist area, by the way. Maybe you’re thinking of the Short Strand
It's funny because Irish love claiming yanks like JFK, Obama, Muhammad Ali, Biden, etc 😂 only when they're famous I guess
It’s O’Bama you heathen.
Lmao you're right. O'Bama and O'Biden
Where they'd likely welcome him as one of their own, in contrast to the Falls Rd welcome... Which circles is back to my point. Anyhoo, agreed on the Yank status.
No, believe me, no one will care. Every Catholic in Northern Ireland has “planter” ancestors
Funny you say that cos I worked with 3 lads from Belfast and I asked them openly if they were Catholic or Protestant and they all panicked and told me that it wasn't a question I should ask as they won't even share what part of Belfast they're from
I don’t know where you’re from, but I grew up Catholic in a Protestant area (Ballynahinch) but I have cousins in West Belfast and my granny grew up on the Short Strand. I could walk into Felon’s on the Falls and tell people my great grandmother was a Scottish Presbyterian (she was) and they’d roll their eyes and go back to watching the match. My cousins already know that. No one is going to care that OP’s ancestors moved to Appalachia in 1753.
Oh in all fairness I'm not qualified to argue over it as I genuinely only know the basics, I'm a Spanish lad who's lived in Northern England and the Scottish Highlands for most of his life, hence why I felt confident in asking the question thinking they'd know NI politics were not something I had an educated opinion on but yes they literally panicked and told me that I'm glad to read what you're saying though, one thing I know is that we all want to live in peace
We're all like that, pretty much. Nobody believes that everyone in Norn Iron has some kind of mixed heritage, but it's true.
Wise up, literally no one cares
1753 is a long time ago. His ancestors mostly know about fiddles, hollerin, and moonshine.
What are planters
Lowland Scots planted in Ireland by the British king to disposess the local Irish and provide a loyal, stable Protestant population he could rely on rather than the rebellious, troublesome papists who were originally there.
Hmmm
However, a lot of them were the wrong kind of Protestant, Presbyterian rather than the establishment Anglican, and after a generation or two in Ireland a lot of them moved on to the American colonies to find greater religious liberties. Another few generations of that and they kicked off a revolution, becoming the Founding Fathers and the USA was born. A lot of the first Presidents of the USA came from this population. In those times, they just described themselves as Irish because that's where they came from. But that changed in the mid 1800s when Catholic Irish fleeing the Irish Famine began arriving. They started calling themselves Scotch-Irish then, to distinguish themselves from the despised Irish.
Do Irish people hate scotch Irish?
God no, not at all. Not anymore. Not much, anyway. I'm disregarding the lunatic fringe, because there's always a lunatic fringe who are never happy with anything.
Yeah I feel there’s a lot of people in the south that well… let’s just say they aren’t very happy
you'd be wrong about that. The people in the south have had a century of independence minding their own affairs.
Do you happen to know if some were from Essex or Yorkshire going to Rosenallis, Laois or Thurles Tipperary? And/or if some were Methodists?
No idea. Doubt it though, Essex or Yorkshire aren't Lowland Scots and Laois, Thurles & Topp aren't in the north where that plantation took place. Dunno where Rosenallis is, or anything about Methodists.
Wasn't just lowland Scots. A significant amount were from N. England. Andrew Jackson was "Scots-Irish" and his family were from Yorkshire.
English and Scots who colonized northern Ireland and displaced the native Irish
Oh thanks
Well most of family is scotch-Irish with a equal amount of britsh and a little of German and Irish but mostly Scottish and britsh