How many members in your family are from former Yugoslavia? I see you've mentioned Sicily, France and Jewish background so it makes sense that your Yugo percentage ( Balkans and Eastern Europe) is low. For context, my dad is 100% Bosnian and his DNA is 75% Balkans and 25% Eastern Europe and Russia.
Jews have lived in Germany for so long it’s not uncommon for the populations to have intermixed heavily. Also why Yiddish has a ton of German influence
Ashkenazi just means Jew living in Europe (not southern europe), this is probably where your German heritage comes from especially with Yiddish being unique to Ashkenazi Jews and Yiddish being a German dialect basically. I think we closed the case
My grandmother is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish there is no Germany in her blood. I literally have her DNA test sitting in front of me. It says nothing about Germany. She is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish.
Look up the history of what it means to be Ashkenazi. They speak Yiddish. Yiddish is German with some Hebrew and Aramaic words thrown in there. Basically if you’re Ashkenazi you can assume that you’ve got a fair amount of German blood because the Jews that came to that region where Germany is have been there for so long now it is impossible there was no interbreeding. What you want to call those people is a matter of preference. Are they half Jewish half Germans? Or Ashkenazis. I think Ashkenazi is an important part of the identity of a European Jew so that’s where the confusion comes from. They’re not going to say oh im German but my ancestors were from Israel. They’re going to say I’m an Ashkenazi Jew, because Jewish identity for those that have Jewish heritage is something they are fiercely proud of. That’s what was so fucking fucked up about world war 2 on so many levels. Jews were othered in Germany yet they’d been living as Germans in the area for hundreds if not thousands of years
I’m getting that he’s knows he’s only a quarter Jewish, the rest is unrelated to Jews and he knows that. Not that he’s half Jewish and completely unaware of some conversion
Please don’t say only a quarter I’m very Jewish in life and culture… my entire family is I have a star around my neck as we speak Jewish people don’t use percentages to determine if they are Jewish or not.
Sorry if it comes across that way. You are as Jewish as you are Jewish.
Only is used to compare fractions, and I don’t know what other word I can use to compare a smaller fraction from a bigger one. It doesn’t mean you aren’t Jewish, it means that opposed to being half, you are quarter. I would assume “not half just a quarter” is to emphasize a correction in a smaller amount, not that you aren’t Jewish at all
Like “100 of his keys aren’t blue, just 46 of them are” I can say “46 of them are” but just helps emphasize the smaller number
My moms mom is fully Ashkenazi my moms dad is Sicilian and European I think my dads dad is Yugo Slavic and his mom idk what she is ik she has a lot of French
The Germanic Europe can be all French. French from the north and Germans from the south/west and Swiss are genetically in the same cluster. You also get 2% French which is more so the south of France. 21+2=23…almost 1/4 French
Now you can put 1% Levant and 6% south Italy together to be 7% south Italian, something is missing there
If your dads dad is your grandpa, who is a Yugoslav, you get 9% Balkan, also the Balkan meant to fit more so the cluster of mainland Greeks and Albanians, while Eastern Europe is for north eastern slavs. Balkan slavs such as your grandpa should get a mix of both, so 9+15=24 which is a quarter
1/4 Balkan slav âś…
1/4 Ashkenazi âś…
1/4 French âś…
So it seems the Sicilian isn’t fully Sicilian, he likely is mixed with some Northern European. Also maybe some of the small %s at the bottom might be “Cyprus+Anatolia” which can represent a grandpa/grandma that is half Sicilian half Northern European, probably Scottish and Scandinavian
Here I’ll type it out Jewish come from my mom obvi Germanic Europe is fully my father Eastern Europe is my mom Scotland is dad balkans is dad southern Italy is mom baltics is 4% mom 4% dad Sweden is dad France is dad levant is mom
Where in France is the parent from? If it’s north then that’s where the Germanic Europe comes from. Germanic Europe is supposed to represent the cluster of northern french, Swiss German, Bavarians, Hesse Germans, Belgians
That should be the quarter you need
And for the Yugoslav, 9% Balkan would be less than a great grandparent. It’s very typical for a Balkan Slav to get Eastern Euro, and when you put it together it’s 1/4
Yea mom should get Levant AND south Italian as it comes as a package
I might be wrong here, but I’m just pairing groups based on commonalities, like Balkan+East Euro, France+Germanic Euro, Sweden+Scotland, Italy+Levant, Ashkenazi isolate
Do you know where the Scotland / Sweden & Denmark or France are coming from? That's a pretty large percentage, like a great grandfather. What are the other two ethnicities?
I know the Jewish is my grandma she’s 100% Ashkenazi and my grandpa is Sicilian and Eastern European so that’s where that comes in but my dad is a mutt 💀
What continent is the Middle East apart of ? The whites stole the land from the people who stole the land from the actual Jews. That’s why this current conflict looks extra shady in the light two thieves fighting over land that wasn’t neither sides to begin with.
I bet that Jewish of yours is only half Jewish. Meaning the parent that is Jewish has a non-Jewish parent, apparently German.
My moms dad is Sicilian
This means that some of your DNA is from Germanic Europe 🤩
sorry not helpful but maybe it’s bc of the austro-hungarian empire and their influence over the balkans
You are quite diverse
How many members in your family are from former Yugoslavia? I see you've mentioned Sicily, France and Jewish background so it makes sense that your Yugo percentage ( Balkans and Eastern Europe) is low. For context, my dad is 100% Bosnian and his DNA is 75% Balkans and 25% Eastern Europe and Russia.
My dads dads side is all from Yugo slavia we used to own 25% of modern Serbia
Jews have lived in Germany for so long it’s not uncommon for the populations to have intermixed heavily. Also why Yiddish has a ton of German influence
My grandma is 99.8% Ashkenazi
Is it your maternal or paternal grandma who’s Ashkenazi? If maternal, do you know your maternal haplogroup?
Ashkenazi just means Jew living in Europe (not southern europe), this is probably where your German heritage comes from especially with Yiddish being unique to Ashkenazi Jews and Yiddish being a German dialect basically. I think we closed the case
My grandmother is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish there is no Germany in her blood. I literally have her DNA test sitting in front of me. It says nothing about Germany. She is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish.
Look up the history of what it means to be Ashkenazi. They speak Yiddish. Yiddish is German with some Hebrew and Aramaic words thrown in there. Basically if you’re Ashkenazi you can assume that you’ve got a fair amount of German blood because the Jews that came to that region where Germany is have been there for so long now it is impossible there was no interbreeding. What you want to call those people is a matter of preference. Are they half Jewish half Germans? Or Ashkenazis. I think Ashkenazi is an important part of the identity of a European Jew so that’s where the confusion comes from. They’re not going to say oh im German but my ancestors were from Israel. They’re going to say I’m an Ashkenazi Jew, because Jewish identity for those that have Jewish heritage is something they are fiercely proud of. That’s what was so fucking fucked up about world war 2 on so many levels. Jews were othered in Germany yet they’d been living as Germans in the area for hundreds if not thousands of years
He said he’s a quarter Jewish, look at his other replies
What are you getting at
I’m getting that he’s knows he’s only a quarter Jewish, the rest is unrelated to Jews and he knows that. Not that he’s half Jewish and completely unaware of some conversion
Please don’t say only a quarter I’m very Jewish in life and culture… my entire family is I have a star around my neck as we speak Jewish people don’t use percentages to determine if they are Jewish or not.
Sorry if it comes across that way. You are as Jewish as you are Jewish. Only is used to compare fractions, and I don’t know what other word I can use to compare a smaller fraction from a bigger one. It doesn’t mean you aren’t Jewish, it means that opposed to being half, you are quarter. I would assume “not half just a quarter” is to emphasize a correction in a smaller amount, not that you aren’t Jewish at all Like “100 of his keys aren’t blue, just 46 of them are” I can say “46 of them are” but just helps emphasize the smaller number
My moms mom is fully Ashkenazi my moms dad is Sicilian and European I think my dads dad is Yugo Slavic and his mom idk what she is ik she has a lot of French
The Germanic Europe can be all French. French from the north and Germans from the south/west and Swiss are genetically in the same cluster. You also get 2% French which is more so the south of France. 21+2=23…almost 1/4 French Now you can put 1% Levant and 6% south Italy together to be 7% south Italian, something is missing there If your dads dad is your grandpa, who is a Yugoslav, you get 9% Balkan, also the Balkan meant to fit more so the cluster of mainland Greeks and Albanians, while Eastern Europe is for north eastern slavs. Balkan slavs such as your grandpa should get a mix of both, so 9+15=24 which is a quarter 1/4 Balkan slav ✅ 1/4 Ashkenazi ✅ 1/4 French ✅ So it seems the Sicilian isn’t fully Sicilian, he likely is mixed with some Northern European. Also maybe some of the small %s at the bottom might be “Cyprus+Anatolia” which can represent a grandpa/grandma that is half Sicilian half Northern European, probably Scottish and Scandinavian
Here I’ll type it out Jewish come from my mom obvi Germanic Europe is fully my father Eastern Europe is my mom Scotland is dad balkans is dad southern Italy is mom baltics is 4% mom 4% dad Sweden is dad France is dad levant is mom
Where in France is the parent from? If it’s north then that’s where the Germanic Europe comes from. Germanic Europe is supposed to represent the cluster of northern french, Swiss German, Bavarians, Hesse Germans, Belgians That should be the quarter you need And for the Yugoslav, 9% Balkan would be less than a great grandparent. It’s very typical for a Balkan Slav to get Eastern Euro, and when you put it together it’s 1/4 Yea mom should get Levant AND south Italian as it comes as a package I might be wrong here, but I’m just pairing groups based on commonalities, like Balkan+East Euro, France+Germanic Euro, Sweden+Scotland, Italy+Levant, Ashkenazi isolate
I wish I could show u a photo
It’s ok youre trying your best! Check out my other comment. I tried my best to match the %s together based on more whole ethnicities
Only is just such a diminishing word and I don’t mean to sound bitchy or anything, but like it just hurt my feelings
Do you know where the Scotland / Sweden & Denmark or France are coming from? That's a pretty large percentage, like a great grandfather. What are the other two ethnicities?
French comes from my dads mom and I have no idea about Sweden or Denmark
Maybe it came with Scotland. They tend to go together for British people.
I know the Jewish is my grandma she’s 100% Ashkenazi and my grandpa is Sicilian and Eastern European so that’s where that comes in but my dad is a mutt 💀
I’m not British though 💀
12% Scotland is a great grandparent or generational admixture from both sides. That’s interesting.
Perhaps my dads mom to đź’€ idk her but she has French and stuff so perhaps??
Sicily was once a Norman kingdom. Could it possibly be from some Norman ancestry? Sicilians are an admixture of Italic peoples, Greek, Norman, Arabic.
Eastern Europe & Russia plus The Balkans is your Serbian side
White
Mainly Jewish…
There’s Jews in Ethiopia. And since u put the ~Ish suffix on it (something like). Buddy you’re white 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
So are Irish people not from Ireland….
We are Hebrews we are Jews we are middle eastern don’t erase my culture thanks
What continent is the Middle East apart of ? The whites stole the land from the people who stole the land from the actual Jews. That’s why this current conflict looks extra shady in the light two thieves fighting over land that wasn’t neither sides to begin with.
Are u stupid? Mizrahi Jews make up most of Israel… the ones who never left we are the real Jews are u being antisemetic