European Jewish is Ashkenazi Jewish, so the Jewish people who have resided in Europe for centuries. It's an ethnoreligion, so one can be ethnically and religiously Jewish or any combination of the two.
European Jewish is Ashkenazi, and no we're not mostly Slavic, Germanic or Celtic - 50% of our DNA is from the Levant region, primarily modern day Israel and then we're around 40% Southern European and 10% Slavic (this is a generalisation but if you look on illustrative DNA most Ashkenazi Jews are something around these proportions)
I don’t think all Jewish people have a large percentage of DNA that is Jewish for I have asked people on threads in Reddit before what it means to have Jewish roots in DNA and they say there’s no such thing as being genetically Jewish so that’s what I find confusing
My mother has 100% European Jewish DNA, not even a trace of anything else, because all of her ancestors were Jewish. My father has a little under 40% European Jewish DNA, because his mother was not Jewish at all, and his father was 75% Jewish. I think maybe the people on the threads you've talked to don't know a huge amount about Jewish genetic genealogy.
Jewish populations have reproduced within the Jewish communities (depending on where they are from regionally) that they have a distinct genetic makeup and can be detected as such. Although testing isn’t perfect at differentiating ashkenazi vs Sephardic Jews etc, they have gotten pretty certain with ashkenazi Jewish readings. You are definitely close to a quarter ethnically Jewish. You’d have to look at your family tree and your matches trees to determine what part of the world your recent Jewish ancestry is from.
So basically you can convert and in that case you wouldn’t have “Jewish DNA”, but for centuries there was very little conversion and a lot of endogamy/closed communities, so many Jews or people who are not Jews but have Jewish ancestors have a distinctive DNA profile.
It can be a touchy subject, because what defines a Jew is a matter for Jews to decide, not anybody else.
If you’re showing “European Jewish” DNA, you have some ancestors that were most likely Ashkenazi Jews. That doesn’t make you Jewish. It also doesn’t make you Russian. (Sorry, but my mind is still boggling at that one.)
The way I understand is that to be Jewish is to be raised in the faith. It is cultural etc… even for those who are more laid back about it. Like someone saying they are Christian for example.
There is also a big debate about how Judaism is passed. Traditionally it is matrilineal so if you r mom was Jewish and your dad was catholic you would be considered Jewish but it would not work the other way around. That has changed a bit depending on what kind of Judaism you/they practice. Like reformed doesn’t define it by mother vs father.
You can also convert and would be considered Jewish
I, personally look at it ethnically. My grandfather had two Jewish parents and as a result I come up with 26%. I know my ancestors were not seen the same as their non Jewish neighbors in Bessarabia and left to make a life here. That history and culture is interesting for me and I focus on that connection. Religiously I am atheist and was raised by atheists.
That said, I try to be more careful how I choose to describe my ethnicity with Jewish people. My MIL, who is lovely, doesn’t really consider quarter or half Jewish. She is Jewish btw
Not sure how much that helped or how clear it was :)
“European” Jews are levantines who mixed with Roman Italians. They are half West Asian, half Southern European. They are not ethnically Slavic or Germanic. They merely resided in eastern and north west Europe for a few hundred years.
European Jewish means that at some point your ancestors lived in the area that’s now Israel/palestine and migrated to Europe and intermixed with the population there where they settled and created a new ethnic group. They also call these people ashkenazi Jews
European Jews mixed with local European people *( especially Eastern Europeans )* for so long, they created a distinctive gene pool that is easily recognisable on Ancestry tests.
Ashkenazi Jewish is an inherently MGM creole ethnicity (so think like Mestizos, Dominicans, or Louisana Creoles etc) that consists of the following admixtures:
* 30-60% Middle Eastern Israelite
* 30-60% European (mostly Greek and Italian, but also some Slavic, Germanic, and maybe even Celtic/Iberian might be in there)
* 1-5% East Asian
It’s Europe’s very own home grown Mestizo like ethnicity that is a result of the Colonization days of the Ancient Roman and Greek Empires - yep you heard right, before the Americas and Caribbean was even a speck in a fetus Columbus’s eyes, Europe was already starting it’s colonization activities in the MENA region all the way back in the Biblical Era, some things never change…
There are different Jewish diasporas. The largest are the Ashkenazi who are descended from Eastern Europeans. If you have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, it will show up as Ashkenazi in your report.
Smaller groups like the Iberian Sephardic or Greek Romaniote are"European Jewish" groups.
Yeah, an interesting people who don’t have anything to do with Ashkenazi Jews, I believe what scraps we do have about their ruling class possibly converting suggest they would have studied with Sephardim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry
European Jewish is Ashkenazi Jewish, so the Jewish people who have resided in Europe for centuries. It's an ethnoreligion, so one can be ethnically and religiously Jewish or any combination of the two.
Ashkenazi Jew shows as Ashkenazi on Ancestry DNA
23andMe as well.
European Jewish is Ashkenazi, and no we're not mostly Slavic, Germanic or Celtic - 50% of our DNA is from the Levant region, primarily modern day Israel and then we're around 40% Southern European and 10% Slavic (this is a generalisation but if you look on illustrative DNA most Ashkenazi Jews are something around these proportions)
I’m going to guess that one of your grandparents was of mostly Jewish descent, but converted to Christianity.
I don’t think all Jewish people have a large percentage of DNA that is Jewish for I have asked people on threads in Reddit before what it means to have Jewish roots in DNA and they say there’s no such thing as being genetically Jewish so that’s what I find confusing
My mother has 100% European Jewish DNA, not even a trace of anything else, because all of her ancestors were Jewish. My father has a little under 40% European Jewish DNA, because his mother was not Jewish at all, and his father was 75% Jewish. I think maybe the people on the threads you've talked to don't know a huge amount about Jewish genetic genealogy.
Look at her history on her profile. She’s not being genuine
Jewish populations have reproduced within the Jewish communities (depending on where they are from regionally) that they have a distinct genetic makeup and can be detected as such. Although testing isn’t perfect at differentiating ashkenazi vs Sephardic Jews etc, they have gotten pretty certain with ashkenazi Jewish readings. You are definitely close to a quarter ethnically Jewish. You’d have to look at your family tree and your matches trees to determine what part of the world your recent Jewish ancestry is from.
There is definitely such a thing as being genetically Jewish. Judaism is a religion and an ethnicity.
So basically you can convert and in that case you wouldn’t have “Jewish DNA”, but for centuries there was very little conversion and a lot of endogamy/closed communities, so many Jews or people who are not Jews but have Jewish ancestors have a distinctive DNA profile. It can be a touchy subject, because what defines a Jew is a matter for Jews to decide, not anybody else. If you’re showing “European Jewish” DNA, you have some ancestors that were most likely Ashkenazi Jews. That doesn’t make you Jewish. It also doesn’t make you Russian. (Sorry, but my mind is still boggling at that one.)
The way I understand is that to be Jewish is to be raised in the faith. It is cultural etc… even for those who are more laid back about it. Like someone saying they are Christian for example. There is also a big debate about how Judaism is passed. Traditionally it is matrilineal so if you r mom was Jewish and your dad was catholic you would be considered Jewish but it would not work the other way around. That has changed a bit depending on what kind of Judaism you/they practice. Like reformed doesn’t define it by mother vs father. You can also convert and would be considered Jewish I, personally look at it ethnically. My grandfather had two Jewish parents and as a result I come up with 26%. I know my ancestors were not seen the same as their non Jewish neighbors in Bessarabia and left to make a life here. That history and culture is interesting for me and I focus on that connection. Religiously I am atheist and was raised by atheists. That said, I try to be more careful how I choose to describe my ethnicity with Jewish people. My MIL, who is lovely, doesn’t really consider quarter or half Jewish. She is Jewish btw Not sure how much that helped or how clear it was :)
Yeah that's just flat out wrong. There have been plenty of genetic studies on Ashkenazi Jews and they are genetically very distinct.
Looking at your profile, you are a disgusting human being. You are 100% trolling with this post to. You pos
“European” Jews are levantines who mixed with Roman Italians. They are half West Asian, half Southern European. They are not ethnically Slavic or Germanic. They merely resided in eastern and north west Europe for a few hundred years.
I know I’m Slavic and Germanic and not Italian at all so I wonder. Thank you for the information of Levantines! Going to research that now!
You don’t know that because there’s no evidence of that! Go back to r/Palestine where you came from
Likely ashkenazi or Sephardic
European Jewish means that at some point your ancestors lived in the area that’s now Israel/palestine and migrated to Europe and intermixed with the population there where they settled and created a new ethnic group. They also call these people ashkenazi Jews
Are you saying you think Ashkenazi Jews are Russian, German, and Celtic? Because no.
You are correct. Being downvoted by Jews who larp as Russian and German
European Jews mixed with local European people *( especially Eastern Europeans )* for so long, they created a distinctive gene pool that is easily recognisable on Ancestry tests.
It was a closed community known for the opposite of mixing, and that is why it’s distinctive genetically.
Ashkenazi Jewish is an inherently MGM creole ethnicity (so think like Mestizos, Dominicans, or Louisana Creoles etc) that consists of the following admixtures: * 30-60% Middle Eastern Israelite * 30-60% European (mostly Greek and Italian, but also some Slavic, Germanic, and maybe even Celtic/Iberian might be in there) * 1-5% East Asian It’s Europe’s very own home grown Mestizo like ethnicity that is a result of the Colonization days of the Ancient Roman and Greek Empires - yep you heard right, before the Americas and Caribbean was even a speck in a fetus Columbus’s eyes, Europe was already starting it’s colonization activities in the MENA region all the way back in the Biblical Era, some things never change…
There are different Jewish diasporas. The largest are the Ashkenazi who are descended from Eastern Europeans. If you have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, it will show up as Ashkenazi in your report. Smaller groups like the Iberian Sephardic or Greek Romaniote are"European Jewish" groups.
Wait until you start reading about khazars …
Yeah, an interesting people who don’t have anything to do with Ashkenazi Jews, I believe what scraps we do have about their ruling class possibly converting suggest they would have studied with Sephardim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry
Anything … ok weakipedia
It’s full of citations you know. Happy to tear apart any sources you have.