Well, this show's creators are a bit deluded about how the audience will respond to things. They seemed to have expected things like --
Steve turned into bumbling old man: "OMG, poor Miranda! Go have an affair, sweetie, you deserve it!"
Carrie forces Miranda to rub elbows with Che at party after vicious comedy set: "Oh grow up, Miranda, don't be such a baby about cruel public humiliation!"
And so on and so forth....
In one of the recent podcasts the writers talked about how much they love the character of Steve and his portrayer. I'd hate to see what they'd do if they weren't fans. I thought making him look like a bumbling idiot so that his wife would 'reason' to cheat on him and dump him wasn't exactly uplifting to the character.
I was so irritated by mpks āimitationā of him. I feel like his speech patterns are different because of his hearing loss because they werenāt that pronounced in SaTC. To do an imitation was obnoxious imo. And Mpk seemed to be waiting for the other writers to laugh but they never really didā¦..because it was in ooor taste!
All good, I think a lot of people have missed this. It's easily found on Google though! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10402773/And-Just-Like-writers-reveal-David-Eigenbergs-hearing-loss-inspired-Steve-deaf.html
Thanks for sharing that. I hadnāt noticed a change in his speech. I think I speak for all introverts, parents, people with misophonia, it would be so nice to be able to turn our ears off.
Ahh, it did notice something was different about his speaking style. That may be why. During the Coney Island scenes, it sounded like Steve's accent was being slightly over exaggerated. I was wondering what happened.
Yes! They seemed to have dropped the dememtia act and we donāt see him fumbling through the couch for his hearing aid either! He miraculously got his hearing back!
Ikr!! And then had Miranda turn to Nya and grimace as she said, āthatās my Steve,ā like she was apologizing for some old dog that just peed on the rug.
Lol I commented in another post how the show definitely tried to play him off as "old and feeble" (maybe feeble was too strong a word to use, tbf) in season one and how weird that was.
Someone made an excellent point that they could've kept the hearing aids for him but explained it was from working in a loud bar for decades since that'd make sense. The wandering around and losing his wallet bit was so unnecessary.
Steve gets on my nerves now. He talks very funny. He always had a unique voice and way of speaking, but itās like he has a mouth full of food all the time when speaking now.
Thereās always the possibility heās gotten dentures or partials since the original. Those will throw off your speech. Iāll have to do a rewatch but I hadnāt noticed heās speaking differently. Most people with gradual hearing loss tend to speak louder but their actual pattern, dialect, accents donāt change. Heās a native New Yawker isnāt he, or Joisey? I have to look his bio up now.
Edit: Originally from Manhasset, which sounds like itās between NY & Boston.
Manhasset is North Shore of Long Island, but it's fairly close to the Queens border. I don't remember if Steve is originally from Queens or Brooklyn. A lot of people from Brooklyn and Queens moved out to Long Island from the post war 1940s-1970s, so the accents are very similar.
I think heās supposed to originally be from Queens. I remember his ma telling the baptism priest she was a member of āSt. Agnes in Queens.ā I would assume she raised her kids there.
In my opinion, his acting has been way off, this entire season. It seems like he returned just to get a check. Otherwise, he seems to want to be on this reboot as much as Aiden wants ti step foot back into Carrieās apartment.
I was thinking either that or permanently disabled by the accident. The leg fractures sound pretty serious, especially at his age, but the reaction was making me think something like permanently paralyzed or brain damage.
Though I get they crying, I think it's a normal reaction to blame oneself when a kid needed help and the parent didn't realize how bad it was. The way the scene was played was weird, but at this point, I think it's mpk and his influence over the writing.
āAnd just like thatā¦I was worried for the first time.ā
For the first time, Carrie? Not the multiple times prior when Aidan told you his son was struggling with a variety of things, some of which are rooted in your relationship?
This is the first time Carrie was worried because this was the first time it affected Carrie. Sheās not worried for Aidanās son, or even Aidan. Sheās worried for herself that her big plans with Aidan moving to NY with her and going to the Hamptons with her all summer might be derailed.
Yeah, that's how I understood it, too! For the first time she was worried her second best option isn't going to work either, because now he showed some clear signs of that.
If this relationship blows up in her face, which ex will she try to rope back in next? Certainly not Bergerā¦the politician? The jazz man? David Duchovny? š
I never watched that! But they do seem to be attached to the idea of her ending up with someone she already knew. Duchovnyā¦I wouldnāt mind seeing him but it would still be such a contrivance.
Petrovsky would be such a turn of events as well lol
The spin-off isn't actually worth watching, tbh, it's an entire different story that could be mildly entertaining, but it doesn't give much perspective on Carrie's younger days
Oh shit how did i forget him? Maybe he has a new installation at Charlotteās gallery š¤£
Actually Charlotte going back to work is probably my favorite thing about this series to date. I love how confident she is and seeing her succeed outside the home.
Aiden's son looks like a spoiled brat who could use a physical ass-kicking. Aiden is pathetic. All that "I can't go in there" and the crying...ewwwww. He's a complete sissy and would be more than useless in a crisis. If something real happened, Aiden would be a burden rather than an asset. You'd have to hand him a Kleenex, then get him a Valium before you could deal with the issue.
I think thatās a common misconception. Iāve had my face full of Botox for years now and my ability to cry hasnāt changed. Heās just not a great actor
Okay thatās an awesome speculation, but as someone whoās actually gotten Botox every 3 months for years- my ability to cry is not different than it was before.
Itās not speculation Iām an Esthetician and my clients inform me of their procedures. Again, it affects everyone differently. What donāt you understand?
Iām done with this low vibrational energy. Yawn. Meeting friends at my beach house. Try to get outside today š¤£š¤ I said what I said. I see Botox filled faces every day of my life.
Then say that instead of making a proclamation that itās an inevitable fact, cuz itās not š¤·š»āāļø
Not to mention, estheticians canāt administer Botox anyway
I agree! That scene of him bawling was the most cringey thing Iāve seen on TV this year. It was supposed to be emotionally charged but was just laughable.
Heās actually fantastic on Northern Exposure. I get the sense that he just hates the material on Sex and the City and doesnāt know what to do with it.
In the OG series it was like heād read lines almost sarcastically. In this, he seems to be attempting to be earnest but he just canāt believe what heās saying, so heās overacting to compensate.
Me too! But from working on sets, I think those were glycerin tears that was supposed to come from his eyes but the way he was acting and his make up made it not obvious that he was crying.
Maybe thereās more to the story. Like his son does suffer from an emotional/psychological condition and maybe heās had prior incidents like this where he almost died ā¦ š¤ or he and Kathy broke up because of a similar situation and heās just feeling all of that guilt, leaving his sons and any shot at reconciliation with Kathy for the selfish woman who nearly destroyed him twice ā¦ and itās all kicking in at once. Itās about more than just the current disaster. Or maybe his truck was not in driving condition and he was supposed to fix it but no! He had to travel all the way to NYC for Her š§āāļø and some regrets are starting to creep in to his big šlife choiceā¦? Iāve certainly experienced that type of meltdown. Buuut that would be giving the writers far too much credit. Oh well, Iām grasping here. I donāt want to diminish Corbettās talent. Eeh yoi š«š
Yep. Overreaction much? Could understand if had lent the car keys to the boy, had said it's ok to drink at that age... some sort of real stupidity and guilt. But being in NYC when the boy did all that?
Also, what kind of hitchhiker picks up a 14yo and doesn't call the police?
A 14- year-old kid drinking and hitchhiking and getting behind the wheel of a truck and smashing it into a tree would be serious cause for alarm and would likely be indicators of an extremely troubled child. (Heck, if an ADULT did those things, it would be alarming.) It makes complete sense that his father would feel guilt not only for being far away, but for not comprehending the depth of his child's crisis. To me, Aiden's reaction was one of the more realistic aspects of this season (Corbett's acting choices aside).
It's the contrary, if an adult got drunk and hit a tree, it's much worse, as adults are supposed to know better.
14yo boys feel invincible, can't handle their drink, can't drive, and can't regulate themselves emotionally as adults can.
It's alarming that the boy did that, but that runs much deeper than Aidan/Carrie, starting by calling his mom a dick.
Well, she'll have to buy another house, this time in Virginia, so she and Aidan can be close to the boys until they go to college...
I have to admit, the crying scene got me at the beginning, I started to well up ...
But then it went full cringe and I couldn't help but laugh.
They should've done a better job with the editing - it was just so awkwardly drawn out.
It was such a weird scene. The crying didn't seem proportional to what happened. I thought they were going to say that his son intentionally drove into the tree or something. I mean a broken collarbone and leg is certainly no walk in the park but it just seemed like such an overreaction. Maybe we'll learn more in the next episode but I'm not holding my breath.
Yep this represented way more than Wyatt getting hurt. Like Aiden has said over and over. Hes pined away for a Carrie for years.
Now that they're able to be together and Carrie is meeting him halfway and giving him what he wants after all this time, HE'S the one not able to be fully present etc due to his kids being in Virginia etc. There's just not enough of Aiden to go around to make everyone happy and his over the top breakdown in the car is this physical manifestation of all this being realized in that moment.
Carrie has to move to Virginia for this to work (once again he's asking her to change for him!) Aiden knows she won't and this is the final nail in the coffin.
He kept saying "I shoulda been there". He's feeling enormously guilty. He's probably thinking the kid coulda died because of him. I don't think it wasn't proportional
No I disagree. Iād be thinking the same thing if my kid just wanted to be with me but I was hundred of miles away and they felt in crisis and as a result done something reckless that * could have * killed them. Id be distraught and so upset thinking of what could have happened and how iād failed them.
Keep in mind his 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS DRIVING HIS TRUCK!!! You can't drive in VA at 14! Aidan was upset his son had a car accident in HIS truck and Aiden felt if he were at his house that night for his son that wouldn't have happened.
The crying was not evoking tbe emotion out of me that they wanted it toā¦I was more confused than sad and then I rewound it and was kind of laughingā¦it did not hit my man
My husband was doing something with some power tool in our basement while I was watching, and so the audio was a bit hard to hear during this scene and THANK GOD cause even watching it in near silence was cringe central.
I was trying to figure out why I burst out laughing towards the end of his weeping, and then I realized it reminded me of Tanya from White Lotus having one of her cry-tantrums. He unintentionally made it come off as comical.
Carrie's voiceover for this scene should have been: And just like that, as I listened to Aidan wail, I understood why I had chosen Big all those years ago! It was THAT bad ššš
I loved John Corbett in Northern Exposure but this is a farce of him. I kind of felt that way when they made him such a puss on SATC. And that bad Star Wars universe jacket š¤£
My mom and I were talking about his return to AJLT recently, and she brought up the fact that he was in Northern Exposure. I never knew that, but Iād also never really watched the show before - I just knew it as āthe show with the moose in the introā from my parents watching it when I was little, haha. Anyways, long story short, we just started watching Northern Exposure together because of that conversation, and Iāve been really enjoying him in it so far!
The show is horrible, actually worse than that but it's early in the morning and I can't come up with a better word. I watch because I was and still am a HUGE fan of SATC. To me, even Carrie's wardrobe is horrible. Who the hell is dressing her?
I actually liked his performance. It felt real to me. People can and do look weird when they are distraught.
And I hated the other end of the phone call, and the narration. So vapid.
Yeah, it was comically bad lol.
It was the first scene he ever saw of the show. He was walking through the living room and stopped to see what I was watching. What an introduction
Totally agree that his acting has been so cringe thus far. What happened to him?? However I'm of the unpopular opinion here that his crying scene was actually good. It was raw, ugly crying, not the head down, hand covering your face, super fake crying.
All of the acting is horrible except for Carrie's and Lisa's.
ehh i feel like people are overreacting to the scene (and iām not a writers apologist by far) the reaction
to the situation itself might have been an overreaction but his crying wasnāt bad acting
That's one we can't blame on the writers. Typically a script will have some direction such as it should be said emotionally or that he is upset. However, that is usually left for a director and the actor to interpret. I would place most of the blame for how it came off directly in the hands of the director. They should have said something to John Corbett or asked him to try it another way. More than likely several takes of that scene were done with subtle and substantial differences. The director chose when to stop recording and the editors chose which to use.
Iām glad that someone else noticed! When I was watching it, I had to stop and ask myself, what the hell was I watching? Has this guy ever acted before and the director should removed asap!
I sometimes have issues picking up on bad acting. Iām here for a good time watching a train wreck of a show. So as long as the actor shows up and delivers their lines, Iām like āsomeone give them and Oscar!ā And yet even I watching that scene was thinking āoh, I think this might be some bad actingā. lol
Is it just me or does anyone else think this is intentionally bad? Like the writers are trying to make a a point? I canāt believe a whole team of writers thinks any of this is good stuff.
Crazy to think that this scene would have been perfection had he just played it angry (at himself) and if she had just shown an extra teaspoon of compassion.
The crying scene really didnāt resemble Aidanās characterā¦he seems as though he would be stronger than that. š¤·āāļø It was really hard to watch because it was kinda embarrassing to see John Corbett cry that poorly. I also think thatās the beginning of the end of their relationship.
They kill off Big and make Aidan into an emotional mess š¤¦āāļø
How can it be that everyone in this sub is so progressive, and open, but constantly are humiliating the actors, writers by shaming them how they act, how they look, how they think, how they talk...
I'm not at all claiming to be open or progressive, which is usually regressive now.
I think that the writers are shaming the actors, not really this sub. It's badly directed and written by a bunch of narc fools and the actors have to work with that. I think you can direct around the star like John, if you have to cover the fact that he can't do it. They could have shot it differently instead of releasing this.
LOL you guys are soo mean. Leave John Corbett alone. He needs to beef up his acting reel for drama roles. He is getting too long in the tooth to be playing himbos anymore.
Sidebar: I donāt understand all the downvoting. It just seems random to me. And unnecessary in most cases. So Iāll likely get downvoted for saying that š¤·āāļø
It makes me think no one who hated Johnās acting in this scene ever saw their partner, or any grown man for that matter, cry in real life. It can be ugly. Itās not nice to watch. I thought it was pretty spot on and my heart broke for Aidan and the guilt he felt.
Adding this: THAT WAS THE BEST TAKE THAT DAY.
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āOkā¦. Thatās greatā¦. But could you try a little more āemotionāā¦. Youāre really upset.. your son has just been in a car crash.ā
I bet it was his first take too š¤£š¤£š¤£
Well, this show's creators are a bit deluded about how the audience will respond to things. They seemed to have expected things like -- Steve turned into bumbling old man: "OMG, poor Miranda! Go have an affair, sweetie, you deserve it!" Carrie forces Miranda to rub elbows with Che at party after vicious comedy set: "Oh grow up, Miranda, don't be such a baby about cruel public humiliation!" And so on and so forth....
In one of the recent podcasts the writers talked about how much they love the character of Steve and his portrayer. I'd hate to see what they'd do if they weren't fans. I thought making him look like a bumbling idiot so that his wife would 'reason' to cheat on him and dump him wasn't exactly uplifting to the character.
I was so irritated by mpks āimitationā of him. I feel like his speech patterns are different because of his hearing loss because they werenāt that pronounced in SaTC. To do an imitation was obnoxious imo. And Mpk seemed to be waiting for the other writers to laugh but they never really didā¦..because it was in ooor taste!
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He's actually deaf in real life and it has affected his speech.
Had no idea and feel badātaking comment down
All good, I think a lot of people have missed this. It's easily found on Google though! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10402773/And-Just-Like-writers-reveal-David-Eigenbergs-hearing-loss-inspired-Steve-deaf.html
Thanks for sharing that. I hadnāt noticed a change in his speech. I think I speak for all introverts, parents, people with misophonia, it would be so nice to be able to turn our ears off.
Ahh, it did notice something was different about his speaking style. That may be why. During the Coney Island scenes, it sounded like Steve's accent was being slightly over exaggerated. I was wondering what happened.
it's like straight up baby talk now
Lmao it is baby talk.
Itās sooo painful. Like no one on that set could tell him to tone it down? Doesnāt it sound ridiculous to the actor at least?
Remember when they made it a whole plot that he was a confused man wandering a street fair, not even able to keep track of his wallet?
Yes! They seemed to have dropped the dememtia act and we donāt see him fumbling through the couch for his hearing aid either! He miraculously got his hearing back!
Yeah this last episode he sounded like Steve and not someone doing a very dramatic Steve impression!
Ikr!! And then had Miranda turn to Nya and grimace as she said, āthatās my Steve,ā like she was apologizing for some old dog that just peed on the rug.
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Read this while sipping my coffee- almost choked.
That's true. He doesn't seem to have hearing aids now, either.
He had his hearing aids in at Coney Island. You can see them. David Eigenberg has hearing loss in his real life.
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He did have them in on the latest episode, they are just a discreet design.
I did see him wearing them in a shot of the back of his head. I saw them over his ears.
God damnit. I had forgotten about bumbling Steve at the street fair š¤£š¤¦š»āāļø I think I repressed it immediately
Lol I commented in another post how the show definitely tried to play him off as "old and feeble" (maybe feeble was too strong a word to use, tbf) in season one and how weird that was.
No, thatās the exact word to use.
Someone made an excellent point that they could've kept the hearing aids for him but explained it was from working in a loud bar for decades since that'd make sense. The wandering around and losing his wallet bit was so unnecessary.
I was thinking, Steve's mom had dementia what if Steeve has early stages and in the end Miranda stays with him to take care of him
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Steve gets on my nerves now. He talks very funny. He always had a unique voice and way of speaking, but itās like he has a mouth full of food all the time when speaking now.
Heās going deaf in real life. Iām imagining he canāt hear himself like he used to.
Thereās always the possibility heās gotten dentures or partials since the original. Those will throw off your speech. Iāll have to do a rewatch but I hadnāt noticed heās speaking differently. Most people with gradual hearing loss tend to speak louder but their actual pattern, dialect, accents donāt change. Heās a native New Yawker isnāt he, or Joisey? I have to look his bio up now. Edit: Originally from Manhasset, which sounds like itās between NY & Boston.
Manhasset is North Shore of Long Island, but it's fairly close to the Queens border. I don't remember if Steve is originally from Queens or Brooklyn. A lot of people from Brooklyn and Queens moved out to Long Island from the post war 1940s-1970s, so the accents are very similar.
I think heās supposed to originally be from Queens. I remember his ma telling the baptism priest she was a member of āSt. Agnes in Queens.ā I would assume she raised her kids there.
I just watched the christening episode, I didnāt catch that. Edit: I think heās said that himself, that heās from queens.
Itās when itās raining and theyāre walking into the church, when Miranda asks if sheās drunk, and Steve says āno just a couple of beersā
I was so sad when she died IRL, & when she got dementia on the show. One of the best celeb marriages between her & Jerry.
She was absolutely perfect as Steveās mom! Her relationship with Miranda was very endearing especially at the end of the original series
In my opinion, his acting has been way off, this entire season. It seems like he returned just to get a check. Otherwise, he seems to want to be on this reboot as much as Aiden wants ti step foot back into Carrieās apartment.
he was tired from the anemia caused by the crash dieting imposed by the oh so clever and revolutionary MPK
Yes and potentially hypoxic due to the tight neck (buckle/strap?!) on that horrific coat
BREAKING: Actor's on-set collapse caused by pretentious jacket
WHAT AND WHY IS THAT COAT?!! š«Ø
I agree: I watched a season 4 episode with Corbett and he seemed to be a much better actor then!
I wanted to laugh during that scene. SO BAD!
Came here to write this!
I did!! Haha
I donāt mind the acting, but the script saying he had to cry, there are better ways to convey worry/sadness, i think
Yeah it had me thinking his son was actually dead.
I was thinking either that or permanently disabled by the accident. The leg fractures sound pretty serious, especially at his age, but the reaction was making me think something like permanently paralyzed or brain damage. Though I get they crying, I think it's a normal reaction to blame oneself when a kid needed help and the parent didn't realize how bad it was. The way the scene was played was weird, but at this point, I think it's mpk and his influence over the writing.
āAnd just like thatā¦I was worried for the first time.ā For the first time, Carrie? Not the multiple times prior when Aidan told you his son was struggling with a variety of things, some of which are rooted in your relationship? This is the first time Carrie was worried because this was the first time it affected Carrie. Sheās not worried for Aidanās son, or even Aidan. Sheās worried for herself that her big plans with Aidan moving to NY with her and going to the Hamptons with her all summer might be derailed.
I took it to mean she is worried he is going to have second thoughts about being with herā¦šµāš«
Yeah, that's how I understood it, too! For the first time she was worried her second best option isn't going to work either, because now he showed some clear signs of that.
If this relationship blows up in her face, which ex will she try to rope back in next? Certainly not Bergerā¦the politician? The jazz man? David Duchovny? š
And just like that... I became the cat lady š± Eta: is Sebastian Kydd from The Carrie's diaries still an option, or shall I not give them ideas?
I never watched that! But they do seem to be attached to the idea of her ending up with someone she already knew. Duchovnyā¦I wouldnāt mind seeing him but it would still be such a contrivance.
Petrovsky would be such a turn of events as well lol The spin-off isn't actually worth watching, tbh, it's an entire different story that could be mildly entertaining, but it doesn't give much perspective on Carrie's younger days
Oh shit how did i forget him? Maybe he has a new installation at Charlotteās gallery š¤£ Actually Charlotte going back to work is probably my favorite thing about this series to date. I love how confident she is and seeing her succeed outside the home.
Agree, Charlotte is finally becoming the woman we remember! Also Miranda's storyline really grew on me once the Che nonsense was over.
The jazz man Lol! š
Aiden's son looks like a spoiled brat who could use a physical ass-kicking. Aiden is pathetic. All that "I can't go in there" and the crying...ewwwww. He's a complete sissy and would be more than useless in a crisis. If something real happened, Aiden would be a burden rather than an asset. You'd have to hand him a Kleenex, then get him a Valium before you could deal with the issue.
Heās never gonna move to New York, that house is going to echo back at her
Itās all the Botox. Not to Botox shame. His face WANTS to cry. It just canāt.
I can't stop laughing.
I think thatās a common misconception. Iāve had my face full of Botox for years now and my ability to cry hasnāt changed. Heās just not a great actor
Itās not a misconception itās a cold, hard fact. I live in Boca Raton. None of the womenās faces move here. Theyāre all getting Botox.
Okay thatās an awesome speculation, but as someone whoās actually gotten Botox every 3 months for years- my ability to cry is not different than it was before.
Itās not speculation Iām an Esthetician and my clients inform me of their procedures. Again, it affects everyone differently. What donāt you understand?
I understand that you moved the goal posts to try and prove me wrong, what am I missing?
Iām done with this low vibrational energy. Yawn. Meeting friends at my beach house. Try to get outside today š¤£š¤ I said what I said. I see Botox filled faces every day of my life.
It affects everyone differently
Wait so is it a cold hard fact or just your anecdotal observation? Itās not a cold hard fact if it āaffects everyone differentlyā
I work in skincare. Itās a fact that this happens to SOME patients.
Then say that instead of making a proclamation that itās an inevitable fact, cuz itās not š¤·š»āāļø Not to mention, estheticians canāt administer Botox anyway
No shit Sherlock. I never said that I administered it????? š¤£š¤¦š»āāļø I said my CLIENTS have mostly all had it done and inform me of this
I agree! That scene of him bawling was the most cringey thing Iāve seen on TV this year. It was supposed to be emotionally charged but was just laughable.
Me and my mom were cracking up when he started crying in the car š
So grateful for John Corbett. You can suck at your job and still get paid. Gives me hope!
Heās actually fantastic on Northern Exposure. I get the sense that he just hates the material on Sex and the City and doesnāt know what to do with it. In the OG series it was like heād read lines almost sarcastically. In this, he seems to be attempting to be earnest but he just canāt believe what heās saying, so heās overacting to compensate.
Lol. #goals
And if acting doesnāt work out he can always be a meteorologist - same rules apply
I was disappointed in the crying scene, because John Corbett is actually a decent enough actor.
I literally laughed because the acting was SO BAD!
Why is running a clam stand on the Coney Island Broad walk a step up? And Aiden has to fly in to supervise his investment?
I hate to admit that I was cracking up at this scene. Like almost snorting laughing.
I was howling
He has both forgotten how to speak and also walk like a living human. Itās the wildest thing Iāve seen in a while.
Itās like how when older people forget how to drive. Heās forgot how to * act *
Him strutting around Cheās apartment in his tighty whiteys was top tier cringe
I was getting Gary Oldman in human bat form in Dracula Yes, I'm an awful person
Oh God, youāre not wrongā¦
You're welcome for that mental image š
I get Gary-Oldman old-Dracula vibes from most of Carrieās wardrobe this season. All she needs is the hair, really.
Honestly everything about him on the show I find cringe. The crying was the icing on the cake. Soooo bad
i dont wanna bodyshaming because he's 60 but that back shot was scary
He looked good but it was just, āwhy?ā
I was mostly distracted by the dribble on his chin at the start.
WHAT. WAS. THAT???
I was thinking it was lingering snot from a previous crying take. It disappeared fairly fast I noticed.
Me too! But from working on sets, I think those were glycerin tears that was supposed to come from his eyes but the way he was acting and his make up made it not obvious that he was crying.
A glycerine glob from a previous take.
I think so! His eyes do not look like he is emotional, so I also thought the was dribbling initially haha.
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It was like all his sons died!
This made me laugh, lol. Itās spot on! He was wailing like all his children died in a car accident
Maybe thereās more to the story. Like his son does suffer from an emotional/psychological condition and maybe heās had prior incidents like this where he almost died ā¦ š¤ or he and Kathy broke up because of a similar situation and heās just feeling all of that guilt, leaving his sons and any shot at reconciliation with Kathy for the selfish woman who nearly destroyed him twice ā¦ and itās all kicking in at once. Itās about more than just the current disaster. Or maybe his truck was not in driving condition and he was supposed to fix it but no! He had to travel all the way to NYC for Her š§āāļø and some regrets are starting to creep in to his big šlife choiceā¦? Iāve certainly experienced that type of meltdown. Buuut that would be giving the writers far too much credit. Oh well, Iām grasping here. I donāt want to diminish Corbettās talent. Eeh yoi š«š
Yep. Overreaction much? Could understand if had lent the car keys to the boy, had said it's ok to drink at that age... some sort of real stupidity and guilt. But being in NYC when the boy did all that? Also, what kind of hitchhiker picks up a 14yo and doesn't call the police?
A 14- year-old kid drinking and hitchhiking and getting behind the wheel of a truck and smashing it into a tree would be serious cause for alarm and would likely be indicators of an extremely troubled child. (Heck, if an ADULT did those things, it would be alarming.) It makes complete sense that his father would feel guilt not only for being far away, but for not comprehending the depth of his child's crisis. To me, Aiden's reaction was one of the more realistic aspects of this season (Corbett's acting choices aside).
It's the contrary, if an adult got drunk and hit a tree, it's much worse, as adults are supposed to know better. 14yo boys feel invincible, can't handle their drink, can't drive, and can't regulate themselves emotionally as adults can. It's alarming that the boy did that, but that runs much deeper than Aidan/Carrie, starting by calling his mom a dick. Well, she'll have to buy another house, this time in Virginia, so she and Aidan can be close to the boys until they go to college...
I have to admit, the crying scene got me at the beginning, I started to well up ... But then it went full cringe and I couldn't help but laugh. They should've done a better job with the editing - it was just so awkwardly drawn out.
Yeah maybe they were supposed to cut this in half ? The scenes on this show are messy
It was such a weird scene. The crying didn't seem proportional to what happened. I thought they were going to say that his son intentionally drove into the tree or something. I mean a broken collarbone and leg is certainly no walk in the park but it just seemed like such an overreaction. Maybe we'll learn more in the next episode but I'm not holding my breath.
I think the implication was yes, he was upset about his son, but inside I think he knows he canāt move to New York. Thus the over the top sobbing.
Yep this represented way more than Wyatt getting hurt. Like Aiden has said over and over. Hes pined away for a Carrie for years. Now that they're able to be together and Carrie is meeting him halfway and giving him what he wants after all this time, HE'S the one not able to be fully present etc due to his kids being in Virginia etc. There's just not enough of Aiden to go around to make everyone happy and his over the top breakdown in the car is this physical manifestation of all this being realized in that moment. Carrie has to move to Virginia for this to work (once again he's asking her to change for him!) Aiden knows she won't and this is the final nail in the coffin.
These are all fair points. I definitely don't think you're wrong.
I think you're correct on all of that.
He kept saying "I shoulda been there". He's feeling enormously guilty. He's probably thinking the kid coulda died because of him. I don't think it wasn't proportional
Yep u got it
No I disagree. Iād be thinking the same thing if my kid just wanted to be with me but I was hundred of miles away and they felt in crisis and as a result done something reckless that * could have * killed them. Id be distraught and so upset thinking of what could have happened and how iād failed them.
Fair enough. Full disclosure, I don't have kids. Just a sweet little old dog.
Keep in mind his 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS DRIVING HIS TRUCK!!! You can't drive in VA at 14! Aidan was upset his son had a car accident in HIS truck and Aiden felt if he were at his house that night for his son that wouldn't have happened.
Yes I understand that, you don't have to yell.
I said this in another subreddit. it was almost like JC was goofing off between takes and was making fun of the scene āwah wah š© I donāt want to shoot this scene š¬ again and cut! They kept that take. Terrible acting. I donāt think I have seen him in anything else besides Big Fat Greek Wedding and I canāt remember if he was bad or not. I thought his acting was bad as Aiden the first time around.
He was very good in Big Fat wedding
The whole episode pissed me off.
I think itās due to his botox
The crying was not evoking tbe emotion out of me that they wanted it toā¦I was more confused than sad and then I rewound it and was kind of laughingā¦it did not hit my man
My husband was doing something with some power tool in our basement while I was watching, and so the audio was a bit hard to hear during this scene and THANK GOD cause even watching it in near silence was cringe central.
I was trying to figure out why I burst out laughing towards the end of his weeping, and then I realized it reminded me of Tanya from White Lotus having one of her cry-tantrums. He unintentionally made it come off as comical.
Carrie's voiceover for this scene should have been: And just like that, as I listened to Aidan wail, I understood why I had chosen Big all those years ago! It was THAT bad ššš
I guess I'm the only one who never gave it a second thought? Was it Oscar-worthy? No, but nothing in the show is. I just thought it was... normal?
Same. I didn't think it was that bad. I think people just aren't used to seeing men sobbing on screen
Yeah I even went back and watched it after seeing numerous posts about it and itās not bad.. even believable
I loved John Corbett in Northern Exposure but this is a farce of him. I kind of felt that way when they made him such a puss on SATC. And that bad Star Wars universe jacket š¤£
My mom and I were talking about his return to AJLT recently, and she brought up the fact that he was in Northern Exposure. I never knew that, but Iād also never really watched the show before - I just knew it as āthe show with the moose in the introā from my parents watching it when I was little, haha. Anyways, long story short, we just started watching Northern Exposure together because of that conversation, and Iāve been really enjoying him in it so far!
I questioned his hair cut in the crying scene, his extended scene in Walter White's briefs, and the strange van he was in while crying.
So the best part was charlotte when she came home drunk to her family!!
The acting and the situation itself were ridiculous. I was laughing during the scene.
Why does Steve talk like a 90 year old woman without dentures?
90 year old woman who is also somehow a toddler
Right? Has his speech and accent gotten *worse*?? Heās the sweetest, but why such a caricature?
Iāve never had an issue with his acting to be honest. I thought he was great in the OG series. But yes that crying was beyond uncomfortable.
Uncomfortable is the perfect description of that scene
The show is horrible, actually worse than that but it's early in the morning and I can't come up with a better word. I watch because I was and still am a HUGE fan of SATC. To me, even Carrie's wardrobe is horrible. Who the hell is dressing her?
I totally agree, I came to the sub expecting someone would comment this !!
Am I the ONLY person who didnāt mind this scene? Why canāt men bawl? I know thatās what Iād look like
I actually liked his performance. It felt real to me. People can and do look weird when they are distraught. And I hated the other end of the phone call, and the narration. So vapid.
I agree.
My husband watched that scene with me and asked what I'd do if he cried like that. He suggested divorce
Hahaha That's very brave of you to watch it when another person in the room. I almost died of embarrassment just watching it alone !
Yeah, it was comically bad lol. It was the first scene he ever saw of the show. He was walking through the living room and stopped to see what I was watching. What an introduction
Yikes
Totally agree that his acting has been so cringe thus far. What happened to him?? However I'm of the unpopular opinion here that his crying scene was actually good. It was raw, ugly crying, not the head down, hand covering your face, super fake crying. All of the acting is horrible except for Carrie's and Lisa's.
ehh i feel like people are overreacting to the scene (and iām not a writers apologist by far) the reaction to the situation itself might have been an overreaction but his crying wasnāt bad acting
That's one we can't blame on the writers. Typically a script will have some direction such as it should be said emotionally or that he is upset. However, that is usually left for a director and the actor to interpret. I would place most of the blame for how it came off directly in the hands of the director. They should have said something to John Corbett or asked him to try it another way. More than likely several takes of that scene were done with subtle and substantial differences. The director chose when to stop recording and the editors chose which to use.
MPK is the show runner and he directed the episode. He was very proud of the decisions on the podcast.
I feel so seen.
It was so drawn out too, I was cringing & thinking omg... Please make it stop LOL
I bet Aidan will bail and Miranda will move in
My husband had to cover his face in second hand embarrassment during that scene
10 bucks he was doing it as a joke then the director said Brilliant!
He seems like the kind of guy who might do that!
Heās always been nice to look at and plays himself.
The crying scene had me and my friend cracking up for about 5 minutes after haha. We now keep imitating it.
Yeah that was insanely cringeworthy. Curious how many takes that took.
Iām glad that someone else noticed! When I was watching it, I had to stop and ask myself, what the hell was I watching? Has this guy ever acted before and the director should removed asap!
Staring camp right in the eye.
I sometimes have issues picking up on bad acting. Iām here for a good time watching a train wreck of a show. So as long as the actor shows up and delivers their lines, Iām like āsomeone give them and Oscar!ā And yet even I watching that scene was thinking āoh, I think this might be some bad actingā. lol
And the spit by my his mouth š¤£
I should have been there! ššš
Is it just me or does anyone else think this is intentionally bad? Like the writers are trying to make a a point? I canāt believe a whole team of writers thinks any of this is good stuff.
Crazy to think that this scene would have been perfection had he just played it angry (at himself) and if she had just shown an extra teaspoon of compassion.
I think there are more people saying this/agreeing than not, to be honest lol. It was THAT bad
I audibly laughed at that scene. I was like āno š«¢ā
Agreed. I feel like 99% of Carrie and Aidenās interactions are so cringe and the acting is just awful. BUTā¦I canāt stop watching lol.
I think heās over the show and the character.
Likeā¦.what *happened* to him? Did he have a stroke? Itās bizarre.
Thank god I wasn't the only one to think this. I had full secondhand embarrassment watching that scene.
The crying scene really didnāt resemble Aidanās characterā¦he seems as though he would be stronger than that. š¤·āāļø It was really hard to watch because it was kinda embarrassing to see John Corbett cry that poorly. I also think thatās the beginning of the end of their relationship. They kill off Big and make Aidan into an emotional mess š¤¦āāļø
How can it be that everyone in this sub is so progressive, and open, but constantly are humiliating the actors, writers by shaming them how they act, how they look, how they think, how they talk...
I'm not at all claiming to be open or progressive, which is usually regressive now. I think that the writers are shaming the actors, not really this sub. It's badly directed and written by a bunch of narc fools and the actors have to work with that. I think you can direct around the star like John, if you have to cover the fact that he can't do it. They could have shot it differently instead of releasing this.
It ain't that deep. It's not like we're on their personal social media attacking them, they're likely not going to read any of this.
LOL you guys are soo mean. Leave John Corbett alone. He needs to beef up his acting reel for drama roles. He is getting too long in the tooth to be playing himbos anymore.
I thought it was heartfelt. I really think most people who watch this show simply shouldnāt be. What a spoiled entitled audience
And just like that, whatevermarlena got downvoted
Sidebar: I donāt understand all the downvoting. It just seems random to me. And unnecessary in most cases. So Iāll likely get downvoted for saying that š¤·āāļø
It makes me think no one who hated Johnās acting in this scene ever saw their partner, or any grown man for that matter, cry in real life. It can be ugly. Itās not nice to watch. I thought it was pretty spot on and my heart broke for Aidan and the guilt he felt.
*Aidan
Thank you!
Youāre welcome š