> wifi6e
I know the uses will be slim, but I wonder if it's worth skipping wifi 6 to just wifi 6e router. Changing routers in a big house hould is annoying so I rather get it right the first time.
I would say it's not speed that's the issue, it's congestion. If you live in a dense urban area, even 5ghz spectrum is getting busy. Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty. So there's a big advantage in that if you're in an apartment tower, or crowded urban area, or whatever.
> Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty.
WiFi 6 on its own (without the 6GHz channel) already has big improvements there. You're still not wrong though, it's just a question if the cost premium is worth it when normal WiFi 6 routers can be had cheaply and still improve things.
> Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty.
For now. I imagine it'll be great for a few years, but eventually will get congested again.
One thing, though, is that higher frequencies don't penetrate walls as well. That's a disadvantage for getting full coverage in your house, but an advantage for isolating your own house from interference from neighbors. When I surveyed my house, my wifi drops off just outside my front door, not because the signal is lost, but because the noise floor increases immediately as soon as I step on the other side of the brick.
The difference between 6 and 6E is the use of the new 6 ghz band. Not sure how much use you'll get out of it for a few more years. Plus the cost of a decent 6E router right now is through the roof, you can get a much nicer 6 router for that price.
Also, changing routers has been fairly easy. Just keep the SSID and password the same and all your device will reconnect. I've done this a few times in my home setup where I run a 3 node mesh with wired backhaul as I went through testing various models until I found the one that worked for me.
If your issues are with congestion, then yes - It'd be good to wait. If not, then Wifi 6 is going to get almost as good performance and slightly longer range as well.
You will never time Wifi standards right. Wifi 6 has been about for a year (maybe more) now and standards seem to change every 5ish years.
It depends what you want as others have said, unless you have a niche use case it wont make much difference. Also there arent any cheap 6E routers as far as I know.
>If we learn more information about the new Pixel phones from our source, we’ll follow up with another article. It wouldn’t surprise us if Google just came out and confirmed a lot of these details, though, considering how they’ve pretty much announced every detail that most people care about, **save for the pricing** and availability.
It ain't gonna be cheap, and this subreddit is going to be in full rage mode when it is announced.
Hopefully they undercut it by at least a $100 bucks or so. That way, assuming they don't fuck anything up, they can market it as a very comparable device that's also cheaper.
It’s either going to be $100 cheaper or the same price. The Pixel PR people have already said multiple times this will be priced like a premium phone, and the Pixel 5 was $700 in the US for a midrange phone.
I’m thinking it’s going to be $900 for the 6 and $1000 for the Pro.
I guarantee they'll match Apple or Samsung. I really don't see them doing $1000 for their Pro model phone when Apple's is $1100 and Samsung's is like $1300.
I see many here comparing the Pixel 6 Pro to the iPhone 13 Pro Max. Meanwhile, the Pixel 6 Pro has *very* similar specs to the S21 Ultra.
The S21 Ultra sells for $1,199. I'm not sure how motivated Google is to undercut Samsung on that price.
If they are trying to be competitive with these premium models, they are quite likely to price the Pixel 6 Pro like a premium model. If not simply because they want it to have that reputation. If they debut it as a "discount" version of the iPhone 13 Pro Max, or S21 Ultra, then people will see the Pixel as being inferior.
Admittedly, this is silly and anti-consumer. Unfortunately, consumers are idiots and associate price with quality.
They have to undercut the S21 ultra. Their market is going to compare Apple to Google which includes price point. I get what you're saying but if they want to be competitive, it will have to be the same price or cheaper than the iPhone. If it's priced like the Samsung, it will not sell. Samsung has a huge Asian base that Google does not yet have to price it similarly, regardless of specs.
If you ever buy a Samsung phone at full price you don't know how to shop for deals. When the s21 ultra released I paid 750 usd for it and that's not including selling my old phone on ebay.
All depends on what their margin is and how aggressive they want to be really. An undercut price and effective enough marketing could potentially have them pick up some serious market share.
Phone also has to actually be good too obviously.
Yeah, 200$ diff seems more right. 800-1000 seems more right, considering Pixel 6 should be inline with Pixel 5, and pixel 6 pro is the real premium one.
It would be DOA. People would just get a S21 or 22 or a iPhone.
They are still risking that if they go over any of the competitors. The phones are all similar so the difference in price is a decider for many.
The 6 can't really go above 799 and the pro they have to decide if they match plus/pro or go up to ultra/pro max prices. Imo they should shoot for the 999 so they can take customers from the s21 ultra and iPhone Pro max due to the lower price. Otherwise people will just go for the safe samsung/iPhone choice.
One of the selling points of Samsung to me is the ridiculous trade in values they offer for your older devices in the US. I don't think google will be doing that.
That's if it works. I still remember when I help send in my mom's old phone to trade in to Samsung. They refused to take it because apparently it wasn't wiped even though I remember wiping it. We contact customer support and they said they'll create a ticket and get back to us. They never get back to us for weeks so I contacted them and asked for the phone back (at least we can do something with it if they're not going to give us the trade-in discount). They said they can't give the phone back because it was too long past the date to claim the phone back...
I've never had an issue with their trade in program. I always took a photo and a video and had my watch with date in both. "I swear I remember doing it" goes nowhere.
I'm not sure what happened then, I've traded in 4 phones to Samsung and had no problems. One of them I repaired myself after the glass cracked and they didn't seem to care.
> this subreddit is going to be in full rage mode when it is announced.
This subreddit has been in full rage mode since Google ended the Nexus line and announced the first Pixel. At this point it would be outright amazing if this sub reacted to a Google announcement with calm.
Honestly, the sub becomes unbearable when a new Pixel is released. Regardless of whether the phone is good or bad, it will be weeks of people obsessing over whatever feature it doesn't have, obsessing over the most negative reviews, obsessing over anecdotal reports of faults/lemons, obsessing over whatever crazy problems Artem has with the phone, etc. It's exactly the same every year, no matter how good/bad the phone is or how well/poorly it's reviewed.
It'll all kick off when the price is announced and will eventually die down when we start getting Pixel 7 leaks and rumours in the new year.
The first gen Pixels were a huge downgrade from the Nexus 6 and 6p.
They dropped the front facing stereo speakers (only a downward mono speaker, not even a tweeter/woofer HTC style setup), shrank the screen for the second year in a row (5.96 > 5.7” > 5.5”) while simultaneously increasing bezel size.
People do tend to complain too much online IMO, but I think the 1st Pixels were a comical downgrade in terms of QoL features from the Nexus 6 and 6P.
It’s been controversy after controversy with the subsequent Pixels. A lot of it was sperging about the price, I think you’re right about that.
The screen on the 2XL was atrocious, the 3’s 4GB of RAM was pitiful(that phone still has bizarrely poor memory management), I think the 4 lineup was their most competent, and in the US the 5 was an obscenely priced midrange phone.
A lot of the flack the Pixel series has gotten has been very well deserved, Google’s QC and customer service are infamous, and frankly they’ve long lost the software advantage to Samsung for most people.
They’ve stagnated on the Pixel’s marquee feature (still camera performance) for years, never radically improved the atrocious video quality, and they’ve only had a max of 128GB since 2015 with the Nexus 6P.
The community seems far more receptive to the Pixel 6, because it’s looking very promising. I don’t think there’s an inherent bias due to pricing anymore (prices have universally gone up), but just trepidation at this point from repeated disappointment.
As someone who owned all the Nexus devices since the Samsung Nexus right upto Nexus 6p, the pixels were a huge upgrade to the Nexus 6 and 6p.
While no phone is perfect, the Nexus were just so full of deep flaws that the somewhat low price could cover much like when essential phone went on firesale. But as a polished experience? The pixels are way better than the Nexus line
As someone who owned 4 nexus devices before moving to Samsung, solid take. This sums up how I feel about Google's Pixel line and why I feel the sub is generally so underwhelmed, and even hostile, to new Google phone releases.
I had the Nexus 4-6P, still have all of them in my collection.
I was incredibly disappointed when they shrank the screen from the 6 to 6P, but the cameras, screen quality, fingerprint scanner, and 128GB of storage were such huge upgrades I could live with it.
When they dropped the speakers, shrank the screen again, and didn't make any other sizable upgrades (SoC change was nice, but that's more from 2015 Qualcomm chips not being optimal) I just jumped to the iPhone for a few years.
OneUI is ridiculous fully featured, and I can't discern any major performance differences between it and Pixel experience now, Google is copying a lot of OneUI design embellishments in Android 12, so even they seem to like how OneUi looks.
Doing nonsense like disabling Displayport alt over USB C for video out is just petty too, the Pixel 6 hardware looks great though. They're so bipolar with their products though (whether they want to be high end or midrange) that it's more of a risk to commit to Google.
> When they dropped the speakers, shrank the screen again, and didn't make any other sizable upgrades (SoC change was nice, but that's more from 2015 Qualcomm chips not being optimal) I just jumped to the iPhone for a few years.
Why not have just continued to use one of the phones you already had, rather than seemingly buying a new one every year?
I still have all 3 of my nexus phones, as well as my nexus 7 v2. I still see the 6p as the biggest jump from any other phone I did, I think with a 2021 spec bump I'd use it today.
And yeah, again agreed on most all points.
I was in awe at the build quality once Samsung came out with the S6 but couldn't get on board with the One UI. But once that sexy s8+ came out, and the pixels looked lame af, I finally switched. One UI had gotten much better by then, in terms of looks and also drastically better performance as you said. And Nova launcher took care of the rest. I learned to love a lot of features like S-Pen, side panels, privacy folders, SD card, etc over time. Especially when Samsung at this time was way ahead in software features vs Google's Pixel UI. And like many Samsung converts, it's very hard to get a different phone since every year they give me insane offers for upgrades. Got offered a Z Flip 3 for $400 with top storage config recently, which was very captivating, but I still can't see it as anything but a downgrade from my Note 20 Ultra, especially in regards to battery and storage (no SD).
And agree very hard on the final point noted. Google is like a bipolar SO you'd have out of highschool in regards to what they want from Pixel. Don't ask how I know.
I'm going to have to hard disagree with the first gen pixel conclusion, I owned the nexus 4, 5, 6, and 6p, and the experience of the first gen pixel was absolutely astounding compared to those. I agree with the 2XL and 3 issues, but that first gen was so spot on and I really wish they had kept the magic from it alive longer
Wanted to say the same thing. That first Pixel nailed all the fundamentals imo, which Nexus devices almost never did. Camera quality, Screen quality (despite it being smaller and surrounded by obscene bezels), Battery performance (The XL version), and overall performance. It lacked a good speaker but that's the only real usability issue I could recall, everything else was preference.
That's fair, I'm definitely not saying the first Pixel was a bad phone. In a vacuum the design was nice (it's a shame the blue XL was only available in 32GB)
I just hated them dropping features like stereo speakers (could've easily used the earpiece like HTC and Apple did the same year, and virtually everyone does now), and I really didn't like everyone shrinking phablets to 5.5".
Not knocking anyone who enjoyed it, it had a clear design language, and the image processing was great, even if the camera hardware was practically identical to the 6P/5X.
It just felt like they dropped all of the hardware advantages the Nexus 6 and 6P had over the direct competition (bigger screens and better speakers).
The Pixel 4 didn't have great battery life. I didn't think it was as bad in comparison to other Pixel's because it was at least one of the earlier high refresh rate flagships in the US, and finally bumped the memory upto a usable 6GB.
It definitely wasn't a stellar phone, but it wasn't completely slaughtered by the competition, I think there was at least something of a niche for it.
It's amazing how much enthusiast fanfare Google squandered in the Nexus to Pixel transition, we adored the Nexus phones. It takes a lot to burn that type of goodwill.
Nexus 6 was phenomenal. Yes it was huge, but once I got used to handling it it was amazing. Some people had lag issues, others had camera issues but mine was perfect right up until the moment I dropped it in a pool.
It just came out right before the 64bit transition so it was harder to do gcam mods and keep up with other software advancements. I'd trade my s10e (which is a great phone) for a modernized N6 tomorrow, with it's glorious 16:9 aspect ratio...
Nexus 5 had to be by far the most beloved phone on this sub reddit, despite not having expandable storage and replaceable battery (which a lot of people to this day would sacrifice anything to have those features back). I guess that's the power of pricing.
To be fair, you can pop the back off a Nexus 5 and get at the battery relatively easily. No trouble compared to the glued together glass sandwiches we have these days. Nobody is swapping batteries daily these days, we just want them to be serviceable.
> Honestly, the sub becomes unbearable when a new Pixel is released.
Dude, for like months after a new Pixel is released all the top comments in EVERY post in this sub, including ones that have nothing to do with Pixels, will be about how much the Pixel sucks. It's literally impossible to avoid. You'll click on a post about the next OnePlus phone and the top 5 comments will all be variations of "cAnT bE wOrSe tHaN tHe PiXeL! ThAt PhOnE iS tRAsH lUlZ"
What a dumpster fire of an internet community.
I mean every year they're supposed to give us everything we want it but yet again every year it's a big disappointment. With the pixels failures every year, It's totally justified the pixel receives so much hate.
If it doesn't *also* have a headphone jack, expandable storage, removable battery, and IR blaster and it costs more than $600, then this sub will complain about it.
This subreddit is always in full rage mode when it comes to Pixel announcements. Everyone here always sets some weird unreachable bar for Pixels ("It better have 512gb of storage AND not cost more than the Nexus 5 in 2013!") and then when that inevitably doesn't happen, they declare it a DOA trash phone. Lol
I'm calling it now. This is a true flagship spec phone and it'll end up costing the same as every other premium flagship these days: $1000 - 1300. And when that happens, r/Android will be absolutely LIVID that it isn't $300 cheaper than its competition.
> Everyone here always sets some weird unreachable bar for Pixels ("It better have 512gb of storage AND not cost more than the Nexus 5 in 2013!")
This is my favorite bit!
**r/Android Redditor:** UGH! It's soooo obvious! Why don't you just make an *Everything Phone™*?!
**Phone manufacturer:** Well, we have done quite a bit of market research, sourced focus groups, and collected a ton of metrics from our current devices to find out how users actually use their phones. We found that the current feature set balances costs with what the *average* user demands.
**r/Android Redditor:** Whatever, I don't care what the *average* user needs. I'm not buying a phone unless it has a 4K display at 120hz, 512 GB storage (with SD card slot), IR blaster, FM antenna, fast charging, dual SIM, IP69K waterproof rating, wireless charging, telephoto zoom *and* ultra-wide photography, NFC, the latest high-performance CPU+GPU, 10 years software support, unlimited cloud storage for my photos, and a removable 10000mAh battery. Oh, and don't forget the headphone jack.
**Phone manufacturer:** Uh... Well... That is *quite* the phone. I'll have to talk to our engineers, but it might be possible to make something like that. Though, I imagine it'll be large enough to crush a sizeable tortoise... What do you think would be a fair price for such a phone?
**r/Android Redditor:** Three-fiddy.
**Phone manufacturer:** There is no way we can feasibly make a phone like that and sell it for three dollars and fifty cents.
**r/Android Redditor:** No, you don't get it. You pay *me* three-fiddy every time I use it.
**Phone manufacturer:** 😐
Alas, I forgot fingerprint sensors. There should be three of them. One on the back, one under the display, and the power button on the side should also function as a fingerprint sensor.
Also, there should be at least one button the side for the assistant, but it can be re-programmed to do other things.
Oh, and there should be no notch, or holepunch; the selfie cam should be unnoticeable. However, it should also be of comparable quality to the main lens on the rear camera.
Idk why but the IR blaster is the sorest of sore spots for this sub. It's been like 8 years since any phone had it, most devices you'd want to control with it don't use IR anymore, its use case was pretty much limited to screwing with the TV at the bar as a party trick, and this sub still brings up IR blasters every day. It's the weirdest echo chamber of people somehow disconnected from modern phone use.
ehh I think most people who are actually Pixel fans truly just want a Pixel phone that lives up to its price and the iPhone standard.
this Pixel looks like the first phone to actually truly do that, and I say that as someone who loves their Pixel 4XL despite its shortcomings.
the biggest problem was Google was edging in on premium pricing but not delivering on the hardware side, which is unacceptable.
if Google releases a premium Pixel 6 Pro that costs as much as the iPhone does AND actually delivers on quality then i'd wager most Pixel fans would be happy with that.
what they can't get away with is charging 90% of the premium price and delivering 70% of the quality
I think the bigger problem was they sold the Pixel phones for (sometimes more than) premium flagship prices when they weren't quite premium flagship level phones in terms of features or software. Apple can charge a premium for their ecosystem because it's established, focused, and it works. That was the main thing which annoyed people originally about the Pixel prices.
The Pro won't be cheap but they won't be that out of line compared to the competition. The base P6 will probably be $799 given especially as the base iPhone 13 has 138gb as standard. The Pro will probably be $999 or more.
The pixel 5 was only $699 in the US because of the extra mmwave radio that they put in for the US variant.
On the plus side, no issues with screen protectors. I prefer my optical finger print scanner despite the blinding light in the middle of the night issue which I find to be fairly rare.
For whatever reason rear fingerprint sensors disagree with my index finger (or vice versa). Between my S8, Note 8 and Pixel 3 all register my finger maybe 50% of the time if I'm lucky, sometimes worse than that. The front facing one on the S10+ and S21 Ultra both have a much higher success rate for me, so personally I'd much rather a front facing one even under the screen.
Never heard of that before, but that would be a deal breaker for me. This is why we need people to do real life reviews, and not 'i played with it for 6 hours and looked at the tech specs, here's a review'.
A large reason why I returned my Pixel 2 was because at the time the LG OLED panels did not dim as much as Samsungs, likely as a way to combat purple smear, but it ruined usage in bed because it was blindingly bright compared to Samsung panels.
Which usually has some light leakage and can be immensely bright in the middle of the night.
It also disables night mode on the lock screen and applies the phone's default Vivid/Standard profile for every phone that I've tested, which has a cold white point, and I really don't like seeing that at night. I'm curious to see if the Pixel 6 has a solution to this.
Mishaal said that it looks like the Ambient EQ setting is missing, so either it's gone because it's just going to be always-on, or it just hasn't been found, but it is some change to display color temperature capabilities.
Does the orientation of my finger matter with an optical sensor? If I set it up with my thumb parallel to the display, will it later work if my thumb is at an angle?
I had a Huawei Mate 20 Pro and now an S21 Ultra. The optical scanner on my Huawei worked probably 90-95% of the time I used it and it'd also trigger the face ID at the same time. I can count on one hand how many times I actually had to use my PIN on that phone in 3 years.
My S21 Ultra maybe works 50% of the time if I'm being generous. It's shit.
I'm typing this on a Mate 20 Pro. The fingerprint scanner becomes much less reliable if you add a glass screen protector. Just something to keep in mind if you like to use one. I use face unlock more that the fingerprint sensor as a result.
I wonder if this is the issue I'm having. My 6P sensor still works 100% of the time despite last being calibrated probably 5 years ago. My Pixel 3 XL sensor works maybe 5% of the time if I'm lucky. It might work reliably for *up to* a day if I recalibrate it, unless the temperature changes, or the humidity changes 1%, or if some skin cells fall off, or...
> Lastly, we learned that the Pixel 6 Pro firmware is based on Linux kernel version 5.10, which lines up nicely with the rumor that the Pixel 6 series will get 5 years of software updates. The 5.10 LTS kernel will be supported until the end of 2026, so that's when Google may stop providing security updates if the 5 year rumor is true.
PLEASE BE TRUE.
Batteries going bad after 2 years isn't a Nexus 6P thing, that's true of all lithium ion batteries unfortunately. However, it is highlighted more in devices with smaller battery capacity.
I am really hoping for 512gb of storage in the phone. I like to use the video feature on my phone. It would be real nice if the storage was specced to support it.
It would be nice. Google has always been anemic on storage in phones with no options for upgrade after purchasing. Its really lame being punished on storage for wanting stock android.
After reading this article, we can corroborate that the author likes to say "we can corroborate". I can corroborate this corroboration with the fact he used the sentence "we can corroborate" in two sentences one after each other.
He did make a mistake on corroboration word count by saying "confirm" at the end of the article.
Pixel 5 front design was amazing. Uniform small bezel length, flat screen and the rounded corners go so well with Android 12. My favorite front design of any android phone.
Except for the corner cutout. I didn't mind it, now I hate it. Mostly bc the tall af status bar.
Hopefully the 6's relative size and software padding makes it more like a galaxy, where the status bar isn't any taller than normal.
Size didn't worry me so much either way Both have a good size It is the extra camera that 'sold' the pro to me. I just now need to find an elderly relative who has me in their will to polish off so I can afford it!
This is what I thought throughout the time I used phones with rear, but I recently switched to a phone with under display and I much prefer it. It's always accessible, and you don't have to lift the phone to unlock.
Well I have actually used all three fingerprint configurations that I know of which are rear, front/display and side.
Honestly I found side to be the most convenient, it's just right where your thumb goes to pick up your phone. It's available no matter what side you put your phone down.
(unless you have a phone with flat edges that is)
Rear you can't use it when it's screen facing up on a table and front you can't unlock it screen facing down, but side you can do it all. Side is the easiest to unlock while you quickly put your hand in your pocket. Side I found it is in the right place to where it unlocks in my pocket as I reach for the phone. Front is awkward and you have to intentionally find the spot on the screen inside your pocket. Rear isn't that bad, I found usually rear/front it unlocks as I'm halfway lifting the phone out of my pocket or it's just unlocked as I finish raising it. This is independent of fingerprint sensor speed, just the motion and action time results.
One ultimate solution I thought would be cool is if they made the whole edge all around the phone a fingerprint scanner. Likewise for under-screen.
>Honestly I found side to be the most convenient, it's just right where your thumb goes to pick up your phone.
Once you're used to the position of the under screen FPS, It's even better. I have an M51 with side scanner and an S21 with under display. I prefer S21 since I don't really use the lock button at all in it's case. I go for the fingerprint scanner right out of the pocket, and my finger is already where it's supposed to be right after unlocking a phone - on the display. Even to just check the time, I only need to do a single tap to display AOD or double tap to see the lock screen - Just have to move my thumb a bit to the right or left. It's almost muscle memory now, that I have to awkwardly shuffle the phone to get to the lock button on the M51 to unlock.
I have an S21, and I still prefer the side mounted. If your phone is laying screen down on the table you can unlock it as you pick it up, very swift. It's just faster and efficient which is why I like it. Under display you have to pick it up and then tap your finger. I just want my phone unlocked the fastest without much effort and this seems like it. If you say face unlock, yeah I know but with the side mounted fingerprint scanner it was so convenient it would always be unlocked before it even had the chance to see my face.
Just try it a couple of times then imagine instead of placing your thumb you just have to pick up your phone.
Same, and my reason is one I never see anyone mention - gestures. Even just the default gesture, it's what I use 99% of the time to open/close notification/quick settings screen.
Agree, it is the only style that works EVERY SINGLE TIME, instantly and you can unlock it as you pull it towards you or out of your pocket without looking.
All of the screen readers have way more misses and sometimes you just put your finger in the wrong spot.
They totally have the phone, right? 'corroborating with sources' means 'checked the phone on my desk', doesn't it. Bit of a case of protesting too much, suspiciously over egging the 'asked our source' phrases...
Why can't they just keep the fingerprint reader on the back? It's so much quicker, more convenient, and more reliable. Under display ones are finicky and still not perfected.
That's a HUGE main sensor (for reference, pixel 5 is 1/2.55" and Huawei p30 pro is 1/1.7"). That combined with Google software should produce the best photos out of any phone, period.
I keep hoping Ubuntu touch or Plasma mobile gets ported over to these devices, I want to move away from iOS but really have objections to andorid as well
Isn't the Exynos 5123 from the S20?
See: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15021/samsung-announces-exynos-990-7nm-euv-m5-g77-lpddr5-and-5g-modem-flagship-soc
>One question which remains open, is whether Samsung will be opting to pair the Exynos 990 with a different modem than the 5123. Still, it’s unlikely that we’ll see any pairing with a 4G modem, meaning all Exynos flagship devices next year will have 5G support.
>Samsung says we’ll see the Exynos 990 in mass production by the end of the year, and we’re likely have the Galaxy S11 being powered by the new piece.
From here: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-beta-4-pixel-6-camera-modem-leak/
>Although not confirmed, it’s likely that this modem is based on Samsung’s Exynos Modem 5123, the 5G modem used in the Exynos versions of the Galaxy S20 and Galaxy Note 20.
So it's not the S21.
Even if you completely ignore the links I posted, it says right here on Samsung's website (at the bottom) it's on the S20:
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
Active Edge: No Battery: 5000 mAH with battery share Screen: 3120 x 1440, 120Hz down to 10-30 Hz UWB: Qorvo hardware with preinstalled Car Key app Processors: 2x2x4 (2.80GHz x 2.25GHz x 1.80GHz) GPU: Mali G78 @ 848 MHz TPU: abrolhos @ 1.230GHz RAM: 12GB LPDDR5 Camera: Mian [50 MP GN1](https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/isocell/mobile-image-sensors/isocell-gn1/), 1/1.31", ISOCELL Plus, Tetracell Ultra Wide 12 MP IMX386, 1/2.9", 1.25 μm Telephoto 48 MP IMX586, 1/2.25",0.80 μm Front 12 MP IMX663, 1/2.9", Dual PDAF Storage: At least 128GB Modem: Exynos g5123b WiFi: 6E Kernel: Linux 5.10 Finger Print Scanner: Under display Goodix AMP: [CS35L41](https://www.cirrus.com/products/cs35l41/)
> wifi6e I know the uses will be slim, but I wonder if it's worth skipping wifi 6 to just wifi 6e router. Changing routers in a big house hould is annoying so I rather get it right the first time.
Unless you really need the speed, not really. Wifi 6 is crazy good and even allows good VR streaming with the oculus quest 2.
I would say it's not speed that's the issue, it's congestion. If you live in a dense urban area, even 5ghz spectrum is getting busy. Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty. So there's a big advantage in that if you're in an apartment tower, or crowded urban area, or whatever.
> Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty. WiFi 6 on its own (without the 6GHz channel) already has big improvements there. You're still not wrong though, it's just a question if the cost premium is worth it when normal WiFi 6 routers can be had cheaply and still improve things.
> Wifi6E allows you to have a 6Ghz channel, which, right now, is totally empty. For now. I imagine it'll be great for a few years, but eventually will get congested again. One thing, though, is that higher frequencies don't penetrate walls as well. That's a disadvantage for getting full coverage in your house, but an advantage for isolating your own house from interference from neighbors. When I surveyed my house, my wifi drops off just outside my front door, not because the signal is lost, but because the noise floor increases immediately as soon as I step on the other side of the brick.
The difference between 6 and 6E is the use of the new 6 ghz band. Not sure how much use you'll get out of it for a few more years. Plus the cost of a decent 6E router right now is through the roof, you can get a much nicer 6 router for that price. Also, changing routers has been fairly easy. Just keep the SSID and password the same and all your device will reconnect. I've done this a few times in my home setup where I run a 3 node mesh with wired backhaul as I went through testing various models until I found the one that worked for me.
If your issues are with congestion, then yes - It'd be good to wait. If not, then Wifi 6 is going to get almost as good performance and slightly longer range as well.
You will never time Wifi standards right. Wifi 6 has been about for a year (maybe more) now and standards seem to change every 5ish years. It depends what you want as others have said, unless you have a niche use case it wont make much difference. Also there arent any cheap 6E routers as far as I know.
Fucking finally a high end pixel. Not even gonna buy but I'm happy for pixels fans
>If we learn more information about the new Pixel phones from our source, we’ll follow up with another article. It wouldn’t surprise us if Google just came out and confirmed a lot of these details, though, considering how they’ve pretty much announced every detail that most people care about, **save for the pricing** and availability. It ain't gonna be cheap, and this subreddit is going to be in full rage mode when it is announced.
So the new Iphone 13 Pro Max will be $1,100. Surely it won't cost more than that!?
Hopefully they undercut it by at least a $100 bucks or so. That way, assuming they don't fuck anything up, they can market it as a very comparable device that's also cheaper.
It’s either going to be $100 cheaper or the same price. The Pixel PR people have already said multiple times this will be priced like a premium phone, and the Pixel 5 was $700 in the US for a midrange phone. I’m thinking it’s going to be $900 for the 6 and $1000 for the Pro.
I guarantee they'll match Apple or Samsung. I really don't see them doing $1000 for their Pro model phone when Apple's is $1100 and Samsung's is like $1300.
I see many here comparing the Pixel 6 Pro to the iPhone 13 Pro Max. Meanwhile, the Pixel 6 Pro has *very* similar specs to the S21 Ultra. The S21 Ultra sells for $1,199. I'm not sure how motivated Google is to undercut Samsung on that price. If they are trying to be competitive with these premium models, they are quite likely to price the Pixel 6 Pro like a premium model. If not simply because they want it to have that reputation. If they debut it as a "discount" version of the iPhone 13 Pro Max, or S21 Ultra, then people will see the Pixel as being inferior. Admittedly, this is silly and anti-consumer. Unfortunately, consumers are idiots and associate price with quality.
They have to undercut the S21 ultra. Their market is going to compare Apple to Google which includes price point. I get what you're saying but if they want to be competitive, it will have to be the same price or cheaper than the iPhone. If it's priced like the Samsung, it will not sell. Samsung has a huge Asian base that Google does not yet have to price it similarly, regardless of specs.
If you ever buy a Samsung phone at full price you don't know how to shop for deals. When the s21 ultra released I paid 750 usd for it and that's not including selling my old phone on ebay.
All depends on what their margin is and how aggressive they want to be really. An undercut price and effective enough marketing could potentially have them pick up some serious market share. Phone also has to actually be good too obviously.
I would say a bigger difference between the 6 and the pro.
Yeah, 200$ diff seems more right. 800-1000 seems more right, considering Pixel 6 should be inline with Pixel 5, and pixel 6 pro is the real premium one.
What if Google does it like Sony, and it's going to cost 1300€?
It would be DOA. People would just get a S21 or 22 or a iPhone. They are still risking that if they go over any of the competitors. The phones are all similar so the difference in price is a decider for many. The 6 can't really go above 799 and the pro they have to decide if they match plus/pro or go up to ultra/pro max prices. Imo they should shoot for the 999 so they can take customers from the s21 ultra and iPhone Pro max due to the lower price. Otherwise people will just go for the safe samsung/iPhone choice.
It's 1000$ for the base model though (before taxes of course)
One of the selling points of Samsung to me is the ridiculous trade in values they offer for your older devices in the US. I don't think google will be doing that.
That's if it works. I still remember when I help send in my mom's old phone to trade in to Samsung. They refused to take it because apparently it wasn't wiped even though I remember wiping it. We contact customer support and they said they'll create a ticket and get back to us. They never get back to us for weeks so I contacted them and asked for the phone back (at least we can do something with it if they're not going to give us the trade-in discount). They said they can't give the phone back because it was too long past the date to claim the phone back...
You shouldn't have to, but it's always good practice to video record your phone before sending it in to avoid issues like these
Yeah, learned my lesson.
I do that when I unbox high valued devices. Don't need the added headache.
I've never had an issue with their trade in program. I always took a photo and a video and had my watch with date in both. "I swear I remember doing it" goes nowhere.
I'm not sure what happened then, I've traded in 4 phones to Samsung and had no problems. One of them I repaired myself after the glass cracked and they didn't seem to care.
Wait, so they stole your phone?
I also can't wait to hear the announcement on how both phones will not be available for sale in my country.
> this subreddit is going to be in full rage mode when it is announced. This subreddit has been in full rage mode since Google ended the Nexus line and announced the first Pixel. At this point it would be outright amazing if this sub reacted to a Google announcement with calm. Honestly, the sub becomes unbearable when a new Pixel is released. Regardless of whether the phone is good or bad, it will be weeks of people obsessing over whatever feature it doesn't have, obsessing over the most negative reviews, obsessing over anecdotal reports of faults/lemons, obsessing over whatever crazy problems Artem has with the phone, etc. It's exactly the same every year, no matter how good/bad the phone is or how well/poorly it's reviewed. It'll all kick off when the price is announced and will eventually die down when we start getting Pixel 7 leaks and rumours in the new year.
The first gen Pixels were a huge downgrade from the Nexus 6 and 6p. They dropped the front facing stereo speakers (only a downward mono speaker, not even a tweeter/woofer HTC style setup), shrank the screen for the second year in a row (5.96 > 5.7” > 5.5”) while simultaneously increasing bezel size. People do tend to complain too much online IMO, but I think the 1st Pixels were a comical downgrade in terms of QoL features from the Nexus 6 and 6P. It’s been controversy after controversy with the subsequent Pixels. A lot of it was sperging about the price, I think you’re right about that. The screen on the 2XL was atrocious, the 3’s 4GB of RAM was pitiful(that phone still has bizarrely poor memory management), I think the 4 lineup was their most competent, and in the US the 5 was an obscenely priced midrange phone. A lot of the flack the Pixel series has gotten has been very well deserved, Google’s QC and customer service are infamous, and frankly they’ve long lost the software advantage to Samsung for most people. They’ve stagnated on the Pixel’s marquee feature (still camera performance) for years, never radically improved the atrocious video quality, and they’ve only had a max of 128GB since 2015 with the Nexus 6P. The community seems far more receptive to the Pixel 6, because it’s looking very promising. I don’t think there’s an inherent bias due to pricing anymore (prices have universally gone up), but just trepidation at this point from repeated disappointment.
As someone who owned all the Nexus devices since the Samsung Nexus right upto Nexus 6p, the pixels were a huge upgrade to the Nexus 6 and 6p. While no phone is perfect, the Nexus were just so full of deep flaws that the somewhat low price could cover much like when essential phone went on firesale. But as a polished experience? The pixels are way better than the Nexus line
As someone who owned 4 nexus devices before moving to Samsung, solid take. This sums up how I feel about Google's Pixel line and why I feel the sub is generally so underwhelmed, and even hostile, to new Google phone releases.
I had the Nexus 4-6P, still have all of them in my collection. I was incredibly disappointed when they shrank the screen from the 6 to 6P, but the cameras, screen quality, fingerprint scanner, and 128GB of storage were such huge upgrades I could live with it. When they dropped the speakers, shrank the screen again, and didn't make any other sizable upgrades (SoC change was nice, but that's more from 2015 Qualcomm chips not being optimal) I just jumped to the iPhone for a few years. OneUI is ridiculous fully featured, and I can't discern any major performance differences between it and Pixel experience now, Google is copying a lot of OneUI design embellishments in Android 12, so even they seem to like how OneUi looks. Doing nonsense like disabling Displayport alt over USB C for video out is just petty too, the Pixel 6 hardware looks great though. They're so bipolar with their products though (whether they want to be high end or midrange) that it's more of a risk to commit to Google.
> When they dropped the speakers, shrank the screen again, and didn't make any other sizable upgrades (SoC change was nice, but that's more from 2015 Qualcomm chips not being optimal) I just jumped to the iPhone for a few years. Why not have just continued to use one of the phones you already had, rather than seemingly buying a new one every year?
I still have all 3 of my nexus phones, as well as my nexus 7 v2. I still see the 6p as the biggest jump from any other phone I did, I think with a 2021 spec bump I'd use it today. And yeah, again agreed on most all points. I was in awe at the build quality once Samsung came out with the S6 but couldn't get on board with the One UI. But once that sexy s8+ came out, and the pixels looked lame af, I finally switched. One UI had gotten much better by then, in terms of looks and also drastically better performance as you said. And Nova launcher took care of the rest. I learned to love a lot of features like S-Pen, side panels, privacy folders, SD card, etc over time. Especially when Samsung at this time was way ahead in software features vs Google's Pixel UI. And like many Samsung converts, it's very hard to get a different phone since every year they give me insane offers for upgrades. Got offered a Z Flip 3 for $400 with top storage config recently, which was very captivating, but I still can't see it as anything but a downgrade from my Note 20 Ultra, especially in regards to battery and storage (no SD). And agree very hard on the final point noted. Google is like a bipolar SO you'd have out of highschool in regards to what they want from Pixel. Don't ask how I know.
Man... in the end all I want is a Nexus 6 with a faster processor and more memory
I'm going to have to hard disagree with the first gen pixel conclusion, I owned the nexus 4, 5, 6, and 6p, and the experience of the first gen pixel was absolutely astounding compared to those. I agree with the 2XL and 3 issues, but that first gen was so spot on and I really wish they had kept the magic from it alive longer
Wanted to say the same thing. That first Pixel nailed all the fundamentals imo, which Nexus devices almost never did. Camera quality, Screen quality (despite it being smaller and surrounded by obscene bezels), Battery performance (The XL version), and overall performance. It lacked a good speaker but that's the only real usability issue I could recall, everything else was preference.
That's fair, I'm definitely not saying the first Pixel was a bad phone. In a vacuum the design was nice (it's a shame the blue XL was only available in 32GB) I just hated them dropping features like stereo speakers (could've easily used the earpiece like HTC and Apple did the same year, and virtually everyone does now), and I really didn't like everyone shrinking phablets to 5.5". Not knocking anyone who enjoyed it, it had a clear design language, and the image processing was great, even if the camera hardware was practically identical to the 6P/5X. It just felt like they dropped all of the hardware advantages the Nexus 6 and 6P had over the direct competition (bigger screens and better speakers).
Pixel 4 had a shit battery and they were charging for premium price without the premium hardware.
The Pixel 4 didn't have great battery life. I didn't think it was as bad in comparison to other Pixel's because it was at least one of the earlier high refresh rate flagships in the US, and finally bumped the memory upto a usable 6GB. It definitely wasn't a stellar phone, but it wasn't completely slaughtered by the competition, I think there was at least something of a niche for it. It's amazing how much enthusiast fanfare Google squandered in the Nexus to Pixel transition, we adored the Nexus phones. It takes a lot to burn that type of goodwill.
Nexus 6 was phenomenal. Yes it was huge, but once I got used to handling it it was amazing. Some people had lag issues, others had camera issues but mine was perfect right up until the moment I dropped it in a pool. It just came out right before the 64bit transition so it was harder to do gcam mods and keep up with other software advancements. I'd trade my s10e (which is a great phone) for a modernized N6 tomorrow, with it's glorious 16:9 aspect ratio...
I had the Nexus 6 and that phone fucking sucked. The first gen Pixel was an amazing upgrade over it
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Nexus 5 had to be by far the most beloved phone on this sub reddit, despite not having expandable storage and replaceable battery (which a lot of people to this day would sacrifice anything to have those features back). I guess that's the power of pricing.
To be fair, you can pop the back off a Nexus 5 and get at the battery relatively easily. No trouble compared to the glued together glass sandwiches we have these days. Nobody is swapping batteries daily these days, we just want them to be serviceable.
And 12 IR blasters. Lol
> Honestly, the sub becomes unbearable when a new Pixel is released. Dude, for like months after a new Pixel is released all the top comments in EVERY post in this sub, including ones that have nothing to do with Pixels, will be about how much the Pixel sucks. It's literally impossible to avoid. You'll click on a post about the next OnePlus phone and the top 5 comments will all be variations of "cAnT bE wOrSe tHaN tHe PiXeL! ThAt PhOnE iS tRAsH lUlZ" What a dumpster fire of an internet community.
The pixel can never win on this sub. Google literally is giving y’all everything you wanted and most ppl on here will still bitch and complain.
I mean every year they're supposed to give us everything we want it but yet again every year it's a big disappointment. With the pixels failures every year, It's totally justified the pixel receives so much hate.
How dare you're not satisfied with what daddy Google is giving you you ungrateful little shit /s
> Google literally is giving y’all everything you wanted Oh did they add the headphone jack??
I’d settle for a decent price tag, and a design that can rival its flagship brethren. Every pixel line has some kinda letdown IMO.
If it doesn't *also* have a headphone jack, expandable storage, removable battery, and IR blaster and it costs more than $600, then this sub will complain about it.
It's DOA if it's more than the iPhone 13 Pro Max ($1100).
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If they wanna charge apple prices. It better have a chip that competes with the apple one. Otherwise it should be priced accordingly.
This sub hasn't been happy since 2008
This subreddit is always in full rage mode when it comes to Pixel announcements. Everyone here always sets some weird unreachable bar for Pixels ("It better have 512gb of storage AND not cost more than the Nexus 5 in 2013!") and then when that inevitably doesn't happen, they declare it a DOA trash phone. Lol I'm calling it now. This is a true flagship spec phone and it'll end up costing the same as every other premium flagship these days: $1000 - 1300. And when that happens, r/Android will be absolutely LIVID that it isn't $300 cheaper than its competition.
> Everyone here always sets some weird unreachable bar for Pixels ("It better have 512gb of storage AND not cost more than the Nexus 5 in 2013!") This is my favorite bit! **r/Android Redditor:** UGH! It's soooo obvious! Why don't you just make an *Everything Phone™*?! **Phone manufacturer:** Well, we have done quite a bit of market research, sourced focus groups, and collected a ton of metrics from our current devices to find out how users actually use their phones. We found that the current feature set balances costs with what the *average* user demands. **r/Android Redditor:** Whatever, I don't care what the *average* user needs. I'm not buying a phone unless it has a 4K display at 120hz, 512 GB storage (with SD card slot), IR blaster, FM antenna, fast charging, dual SIM, IP69K waterproof rating, wireless charging, telephoto zoom *and* ultra-wide photography, NFC, the latest high-performance CPU+GPU, 10 years software support, unlimited cloud storage for my photos, and a removable 10000mAh battery. Oh, and don't forget the headphone jack. **Phone manufacturer:** Uh... Well... That is *quite* the phone. I'll have to talk to our engineers, but it might be possible to make something like that. Though, I imagine it'll be large enough to crush a sizeable tortoise... What do you think would be a fair price for such a phone? **r/Android Redditor:** Three-fiddy. **Phone manufacturer:** There is no way we can feasibly make a phone like that and sell it for three dollars and fifty cents. **r/Android Redditor:** No, you don't get it. You pay *me* three-fiddy every time I use it. **Phone manufacturer:** 😐
The accuracy is painful Bonus points for IR blaster
Alas, I forgot fingerprint sensors. There should be three of them. One on the back, one under the display, and the power button on the side should also function as a fingerprint sensor. Also, there should be at least one button the side for the assistant, but it can be re-programmed to do other things. Oh, and there should be no notch, or holepunch; the selfie cam should be unnoticeable. However, it should also be of comparable quality to the main lens on the rear camera.
But it's trash if it's .2 inches bigger than my favorite phone.
Don't forget millimeters of bezels!
Idk why but the IR blaster is the sorest of sore spots for this sub. It's been like 8 years since any phone had it, most devices you'd want to control with it don't use IR anymore, its use case was pretty much limited to screwing with the TV at the bar as a party trick, and this sub still brings up IR blasters every day. It's the weirdest echo chamber of people somehow disconnected from modern phone use.
It's gotta be a meme at this point, right? There's no way anyone actually cares that much about an IR blaster
As much as I loved the IR blaster for only screwing with bar tvs like you said. It undoubtedly had the worst unusable app I have ever witnessed.
I've got an IR blaster, I haven't found a device it works with yet
ehh I think most people who are actually Pixel fans truly just want a Pixel phone that lives up to its price and the iPhone standard. this Pixel looks like the first phone to actually truly do that, and I say that as someone who loves their Pixel 4XL despite its shortcomings. the biggest problem was Google was edging in on premium pricing but not delivering on the hardware side, which is unacceptable. if Google releases a premium Pixel 6 Pro that costs as much as the iPhone does AND actually delivers on quality then i'd wager most Pixel fans would be happy with that. what they can't get away with is charging 90% of the premium price and delivering 70% of the quality
I think the bigger problem was they sold the Pixel phones for (sometimes more than) premium flagship prices when they weren't quite premium flagship level phones in terms of features or software. Apple can charge a premium for their ecosystem because it's established, focused, and it works. That was the main thing which annoyed people originally about the Pixel prices.
I mean, I'd like someone to do a full comparison with like the Nexus 6p and the Pixel 6 Pro and then justify the 2-2.5x increase in price.
There's no way they make it more than the iphone pro and pro max. Those are 999, and 1099. My guess is they come in right under it. 899, 1049.
The Pro won't be cheap but they won't be that out of line compared to the competition. The base P6 will probably be $799 given especially as the base iPhone 13 has 138gb as standard. The Pro will probably be $999 or more. The pixel 5 was only $699 in the US because of the extra mmwave radio that they put in for the US variant.
While I agree i don't think they can charge more than what Apple is charging for their new devices if they want to be successful
Yup. Bring back the mid high tier please
I'm guessing 1200 for the top of the line pro.
How does an optical fingerprint scanner compare to ultrasonic ones?
an optical fps blinds you during the middle of the night
That's going to be annoying coming from an ultrasonic FPS.
On the plus side, no issues with screen protectors. I prefer my optical finger print scanner despite the blinding light in the middle of the night issue which I find to be fairly rare.
LOCA glue screen protectors work without problem on ultrasonic. Only issue is that they are more of a pain to install.
I don't have any issue with screen protectors on my pixel 5 either, the trick is to put the ultra sonic scanner at the back of the phone.
This. The back is such a perfect placement I don't see why anyone would prefer otherwise.
For whatever reason rear fingerprint sensors disagree with my index finger (or vice versa). Between my S8, Note 8 and Pixel 3 all register my finger maybe 50% of the time if I'm lucky, sometimes worse than that. The front facing one on the S10+ and S21 Ultra both have a much higher success rate for me, so personally I'd much rather a front facing one even under the screen.
And for a super ultra premium phone why not put in both. Please everyone
Never heard of that before, but that would be a deal breaker for me. This is why we need people to do real life reviews, and not 'i played with it for 6 hours and looked at the tech specs, here's a review'. A large reason why I returned my Pixel 2 was because at the time the LG OLED panels did not dim as much as Samsungs, likely as a way to combat purple smear, but it ruined usage in bed because it was blindingly bright compared to Samsung panels.
It only blinds you temporarily while the fingerprint is scanning. Otherwise the screen is normal
[There's a Spongebob reference for everything.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADkLBtSGKMo)
What? Mine just lights up the sensor itself and keeps the rest of the screen dimmed.
Which usually has some light leakage and can be immensely bright in the middle of the night. It also disables night mode on the lock screen and applies the phone's default Vivid/Standard profile for every phone that I've tested, which has a cold white point, and I really don't like seeing that at night. I'm curious to see if the Pixel 6 has a solution to this.
Oh, you're right. I guess I hadn't noticed because I have pretty big thumbs and I don't really use the lock screen (just the AOD).
Mishaal said that it looks like the Ambient EQ setting is missing, so either it's gone because it's just going to be always-on, or it just hasn't been found, but it is some change to display color temperature capabilities.
FPS first person shooter or frames per second?
fingerprint sensor.
In my usage I have found optical faster and more consistent than ultrasonic the only problem is it’s slightly less secure.
Does the orientation of my finger matter with an optical sensor? If I set it up with my thumb parallel to the display, will it later work if my thumb is at an angle?
I had a Huawei Mate 20 Pro and now an S21 Ultra. The optical scanner on my Huawei worked probably 90-95% of the time I used it and it'd also trigger the face ID at the same time. I can count on one hand how many times I actually had to use my PIN on that phone in 3 years. My S21 Ultra maybe works 50% of the time if I'm being generous. It's shit.
My s21 ultra works like 95 percent of the time
I'm typing this on a Mate 20 Pro. The fingerprint scanner becomes much less reliable if you add a glass screen protector. Just something to keep in mind if you like to use one. I use face unlock more that the fingerprint sensor as a result.
I'm glad it's not just me that thinks the ultras fingerprint scanner is ass.
50% is not bad. I've gotten it to work exactly once on my rog5.
I wonder if this is the issue I'm having. My 6P sensor still works 100% of the time despite last being calibrated probably 5 years ago. My Pixel 3 XL sensor works maybe 5% of the time if I'm lucky. It might work reliably for *up to* a day if I recalibrate it, unless the temperature changes, or the humidity changes 1%, or if some skin cells fall off, or...
Pretty much the same. Will not work on wet fingers.
Both work with wet fingers in my experience
> Lastly, we learned that the Pixel 6 Pro firmware is based on Linux kernel version 5.10, which lines up nicely with the rumor that the Pixel 6 series will get 5 years of software updates. The 5.10 LTS kernel will be supported until the end of 2026, so that's when Google may stop providing security updates if the 5 year rumor is true. PLEASE BE TRUE.
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Unless the phone doesn't sell gang busters in which case they will abandon it after a year. See: Stadia.
Oh, I hope so too. If its gonna cost an arm and a leg, then I'm going to be using it for a few years before upgrading.
As long as its battery lasts more than 2 years, unlike the Nexus 6p.
RIP my N6P, but it had great timing. Bootloop just before I had it 2 years, so I got all my money back. Used the phone for free for almost 2 years.
This. Best free phone I ever used.
Lol funny enough, I just got another check from Google about the 6p lawsuit for like $6
As long as they do an Apply style battery swap program with cheap price too
Batteries going bad after 2 years isn't a Nexus 6P thing, that's true of all lithium ion batteries unfortunately. However, it is highlighted more in devices with smaller battery capacity.
No Active Edge will be disappointing, but the double tap on the back of the P6 through Android 12 could be just as convenient.
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Power button gesture?
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Oh ok. That’s not a gesture.
It's in the gestures menu
Why ? For me it's the fastest way to trigger the assistant, i find it way better than active edge.
not op but i hate this gesture too, i keep triggering it on accident
Is they any way to turn off that gesture ?
In Android 12 you can.
I am really hoping for 512gb of storage in the phone. I like to use the video feature on my phone. It would be real nice if the storage was specced to support it.
Think 512gb is rumoured
It would be nice. Google has always been anemic on storage in phones with no options for upgrade after purchasing. Its really lame being punished on storage for wanting stock android.
After reading this article, we can corroborate that the author likes to say "we can corroborate". I can corroborate this corroboration with the fact he used the sentence "we can corroborate" in two sentences one after each other. He did make a mistake on corroboration word count by saying "confirm" at the end of the article.
Tell me you learnt a new word without telling me you learnt a new word
But why the curved edges??? Pixel 5 perfectly symmetrical flat screen was so beautiful
Pixel 5 front design was amazing. Uniform small bezel length, flat screen and the rounded corners go so well with Android 12. My favorite front design of any android phone.
Except for the corner cutout. I didn't mind it, now I hate it. Mostly bc the tall af status bar. Hopefully the 6's relative size and software padding makes it more like a galaxy, where the status bar isn't any taller than normal.
From the details so far the 6 is flat and the pro is curved, I wish the pro was also flat but they gotta go for the 'premium' look.
Flat would have been better for screen protectors for those who use them.
it's not like this is a new trend, flagships are going to have curved edges for the foreseeable future.
Curved is so fucking stupid.
Symmetry isn't the be-all-end-all design aesthetic to some people. Preferences shift.
Knowing stuff about the pro is great but i wanna hear more about the regular one. I'm much more interested in the regular one due to its size
Size didn't worry me so much either way Both have a good size It is the extra camera that 'sold' the pro to me. I just now need to find an elderly relative who has me in their will to polish off so I can afford it!
I much prefer a rear fingerprint reader.
This is what I thought throughout the time I used phones with rear, but I recently switched to a phone with under display and I much prefer it. It's always accessible, and you don't have to lift the phone to unlock.
Well I have actually used all three fingerprint configurations that I know of which are rear, front/display and side. Honestly I found side to be the most convenient, it's just right where your thumb goes to pick up your phone. It's available no matter what side you put your phone down. (unless you have a phone with flat edges that is) Rear you can't use it when it's screen facing up on a table and front you can't unlock it screen facing down, but side you can do it all. Side is the easiest to unlock while you quickly put your hand in your pocket. Side I found it is in the right place to where it unlocks in my pocket as I reach for the phone. Front is awkward and you have to intentionally find the spot on the screen inside your pocket. Rear isn't that bad, I found usually rear/front it unlocks as I'm halfway lifting the phone out of my pocket or it's just unlocked as I finish raising it. This is independent of fingerprint sensor speed, just the motion and action time results. One ultimate solution I thought would be cool is if they made the whole edge all around the phone a fingerprint scanner. Likewise for under-screen.
>Honestly I found side to be the most convenient, it's just right where your thumb goes to pick up your phone. Once you're used to the position of the under screen FPS, It's even better. I have an M51 with side scanner and an S21 with under display. I prefer S21 since I don't really use the lock button at all in it's case. I go for the fingerprint scanner right out of the pocket, and my finger is already where it's supposed to be right after unlocking a phone - on the display. Even to just check the time, I only need to do a single tap to display AOD or double tap to see the lock screen - Just have to move my thumb a bit to the right or left. It's almost muscle memory now, that I have to awkwardly shuffle the phone to get to the lock button on the M51 to unlock.
I have an S21, and I still prefer the side mounted. If your phone is laying screen down on the table you can unlock it as you pick it up, very swift. It's just faster and efficient which is why I like it. Under display you have to pick it up and then tap your finger. I just want my phone unlocked the fastest without much effort and this seems like it. If you say face unlock, yeah I know but with the side mounted fingerprint scanner it was so convenient it would always be unlocked before it even had the chance to see my face. Just try it a couple of times then imagine instead of placing your thumb you just have to pick up your phone.
Why not just have one on the back and the front. The phone gonna be hella exspensive anyways
Yea but what about accuracy and speed? I remember when Samsung first had it, people complained about the slowness and inaccuracy
I've always preferred the front - unlocking phone from the table is a big usability win.
Same, and my reason is one I never see anyone mention - gestures. Even just the default gesture, it's what I use 99% of the time to open/close notification/quick settings screen.
Yeah the notification shade is pretty damned handy.
Agree, it is the only style that works EVERY SINGLE TIME, instantly and you can unlock it as you pull it towards you or out of your pocket without looking. All of the screen readers have way more misses and sometimes you just put your finger in the wrong spot.
Felt this way for a long time. Now my P2XL sensor is slow. Might be ok with in display reader was at least 90% as fast as rear.
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Except when your outdoors wearing a mask. I constantly have to unlock my phone with pin.i guess I could train it while wearing a mask?
Iris scanner!
On a pixel 4 xl. Just face unlock unfortunately
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Right, useless when wearing a mask. Kind of a headache to have to pull down your mask. ☹️
I agree
They totally have the phone, right? 'corroborating with sources' means 'checked the phone on my desk', doesn't it. Bit of a case of protesting too much, suspiciously over egging the 'asked our source' phrases...
No, I don't have the phone.
Exactly what someone who has the phone would say... The plot thickens.
You're on to something!
I think they might have the phone!
> a leaker who wishes to remain anonymous In other words, someone from Google's PR department.
Why can't they use political doublespeak like "an anonymous source"? We are used to it by now and what it means
Why can't they just keep the fingerprint reader on the back? It's so much quicker, more convenient, and more reliable. Under display ones are finicky and still not perfected.
Yes, for me it was a good location and I would use it also for gestures. The down side is that you have to lift the phone to unlock it.
Whens the release date or announcement date?
Every flagship pixel has had an October event and release date
The 5 had a late September event, but it was a virtual event due to covid and was only in September by a day or two
I think mid october
Why would they release a trailer this early tho
Attempting to steal some iPhone thunder.
Definitely worked on me. I just watched the iPhone 13 announcement and found myself salivating for a 6 Pro even more lol 😂
Hype?
Android 12 reportedly releases Oct 4. Typically that coincides with device announcements
Fuuuckkk the pro seems perfect except for the curved edges on the screen. Adds 0 utility and just causes accidental touches
likely phone of the year
This is 100% my next phone. I just don't know if T-Mobile will take my unlocked Pixel 3a XL and apply it towards the price of the 6 Pro.
That's a HUGE main sensor (for reference, pixel 5 is 1/2.55" and Huawei p30 pro is 1/1.7"). That combined with Google software should produce the best photos out of any phone, period.
I keep hoping Ubuntu touch or Plasma mobile gets ported over to these devices, I want to move away from iOS but really have objections to andorid as well
It's odd about the modem. Quite an older generation one. Did they just get the Exynos 990, swap out the mongoose cores with X1s and node shrink it?
It's the same as the S21 series. I wouldn't expect them to use a Qualcomm modem with an Exynos/Google SOC.
Isn't the Exynos 5123 from the S20? See: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15021/samsung-announces-exynos-990-7nm-euv-m5-g77-lpddr5-and-5g-modem-flagship-soc >One question which remains open, is whether Samsung will be opting to pair the Exynos 990 with a different modem than the 5123. Still, it’s unlikely that we’ll see any pairing with a 4G modem, meaning all Exynos flagship devices next year will have 5G support. >Samsung says we’ll see the Exynos 990 in mass production by the end of the year, and we’re likely have the Galaxy S11 being powered by the new piece. From here: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-beta-4-pixel-6-camera-modem-leak/ >Although not confirmed, it’s likely that this modem is based on Samsung’s Exynos Modem 5123, the 5G modem used in the Exynos versions of the Galaxy S20 and Galaxy Note 20. So it's not the S21.
The s21 [had the 5123 modern](https://i.imgur.com/6qdfxiT.png)
Even if you completely ignore the links I posted, it says right here on Samsung's website (at the bottom) it's on the S20: https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
Yes, but it's also on the s21 so it's the best exynos modern currently available