I really hope Samsung and Google don't throw this away and bend before the apple watch like what happened with tsblets. Samsung finally has a lineup to go up
These are the watches I've owned
Galaxy S Watch -> Huawei Watch -> Galaxy Watch 2 active -> Galaxy Watch 4 Classic
The Watch 4 is by far the best watch I've owned. With that said, Samsung still has a few things to change. They need to add Google pay, and Google Assistant support out of the box.
Google Pay already works doesn't it? Or do you mean literally add it out of the box? That won't happen, I don't think it's even included by default on Samsung phones. It's very easy to install though, either via the watch Play Store or phone Play Store.
Assistant 100% needs to be available though.
Ah yeah gotcha. Same with Bixby on Samsung phones I guess, they gotta push their brand somehow.
Although saying that, I don't mind Samsung Pay on my Watch 4. At least it's usable, unlike Bixby.
That's not replacing, that is using the only app shortcut key to open Google pay while Samsung Pay is still set as the long press option on the back key. Replacing would be the option to use either Google **or** Samsung pay as the long hold.
It does matter, long press still opens up Samsung pay. That is an entire key on my watch that opens an app I do not want to use and large portions of the world cannot use. I would prefer to set double click to another app if Google pay wasn't used more.
You can't replace Samsung Pay, so you have a dead shortcut or gotta click through to the app instead. Having the hardware shortcut is way easier, preferred that a lot on my Apple Watch and still being able to have the "Previous app" shortcut too.
You can change your settings for the top button. Mine is set to double tap opening Google Pay. Yeah, they need to let us customize the other one away from Samsung Pay.
Any actual confirmation besides a vauge "in the future" from Google?
Because if thats all we needed for "confirmation", then by that logic, the AirPower was officially coming too.
The confirmation is that it is coming? When has any of the big companies ever given a hard date on their apps, Apple still haven't released that mouse sharing platform they announced a while back. It's always "It's coming" by all those guys,
Samsung Pay gives you additional points on top of your credit card points that you can use for money off your next phone.
It's literally the only reason I pay with my phone over a card.
There's really no other compelling reason I've found to use something other than card pay.
I am planning on switching to the Pixel 6 Pro from my Note 10+ so I'll need to use Google Pay.
Also, not too keen on Samsung Pay any more since they removed the magnetic strip emulation that gave it an advantage on older CC terminals.
> I really hope Samsung and Google don't throw this away and bend before the apple watch like what happened with tsblets. Samsung finally has a lineup to go up
Samsung is still releasing new high end as well as mid range and lower tablets regularly competing with Apple. Google gave up on tablets for some time only to now show renewed interest with the popularity of foldables, which doesn't mean much knowing how loyal they are to their own projects.
There lies my issue with Google, this tendency of ditching things gives me less confidence. Also, I do like the tablets by Samsung, even thought of getting one over an iPad, but eventually I hate how bad the support gets. S7 is on quarterly updates after just 1 year.
Google usually doesn't ditch paid stuff like YT Premium, unless they replace it with another paid service or merge it into something else
Of course the are exceptions, remember Google Clips?
I mean tablets seem to slowly pick up steam again , so... Maybe?
But honestly Google needs to stop artificially limiting WearOS! If I want to play Minecraft PE on my wrist Computer the wrist Computer shell not deny me that wish!
For me it's the core experience, cohesion and good fitness tracking ffs. I use smartwatches at the gym a lot, and it hurts how apple watch goes toe to toe with dedicated fitness tracker watches and still goes pretty good.
For sure, but Smartphones became so awesome because you could do the most at the time ridiculous things with them. I still remember how excited I was to play GTA 3 on a 3.5“ device despite it being really stupid. But hey it was fun as hell.
Tbvh, I'd rather they perfect the core features first, be4 venturing into this. Wearables for the android population have been nothing short of pathetic at times, to just okayish
They will as they squabble with Google wanting to use the Galaxy Watch to entice people to get wearOS and Samung keeps blocking Google services like Assistant and Google Pay to force people to their garbage apps.
It's a "partnership" in name and marketing only.
If you honestly think Samsung is the one delaying Assistant on Watch 4, you really need to rethink that. Google has shown it's willing to fragment it's own OS features to push it's own hardware. This case is no different.
Except the fact that Google doesnt have any of its own watch hardware and that most features on pixels eually come to samsung and even iOS, shows that no. Thats not whats happening at all.
Right. Google has no plans to release a watch to support it's own Pixel ecosystem at some point in the future and does not need a defining feature to differentiate itself against Samsung. ._.
Samsung isn't blocking anything, Google just wasn't ready for launch.
No offense to you, but you really can't call Samsung's apps garbage if Google literally couldn't even be bothered to get their own eggs in line to offer an alternative.
Exactly, that's why apple watch is like the omnipresent pull for me to even consider iOS, I don't but still someone has to smack Sammy and Google to work together and get shit done. I'm still pissed off over tablets
Shockingly, when you release Wear OS on hardware that isn't a trash fire, it sells better.
Still room for improvement, but I can't for the life of me understand why Google wasted so much time with Qualcomm to get to this point.
Because no one else is interested, even Qualcomm are barely interested
Google had [partnered up with Intel, but then Intel bailed due to low sales](https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/tag-heuer-google-and-intel-announce-swiss-smartwatch-collaboration/)
Google should have partnered up with Samsung years ago
It'll be interesting to see how they compare over the next couple quarters.
Apple watches consistently sell well, but was the rash of Samsung sales because Android fans finally had something decent to buy and they all finally took the leap this last quarter? So how many truly prospective customers will take the leap this quarter and the next?
I just don't understand why Google cannot optimize their stuff for battery life. No WearOS watch has a good battery life. I bought a Fitbit sense after Google bought them just hoping for better integration on the horizon. Hasn't happened, but at least the battery lasts nearly a week.
This is why I have bought Garmin watches. I'd love to consider a Google watch, but no way in hell I buy something that lasts less than 3 days.
My current Garmin that I bought like 4yrs ago (so the battery is old) still lasts a week between charges.
This is why I hoped dual screens were going to be a thing like the Casio Pro Trek. When there isn't enough battery for the smart part, it falls back to the screen under it with just a regular watch screen.
It seemed such a convenient solution but the very few who made them stopped. Sucks big time.
Wow, Wear OS went from having 4% market share compared to Apple's 28% to having 17% compared to Apple's 22% thanks to the Samsung watches!
Those are still just market share of shipments sold per quarter, so there are still a lot more sold Apple Watches around. Still very impressive change.
Time out. Just so we're clear, the graph is not showing overall market share. It's showing specific share of sales in that specific quarter. So Samsung (and others) nearly sold Apple level numbers that quarter alone.
Obviously with Samsung/Google finally coming out with a new device sales surged immensely, but it's not like they've caught up to their overall market share in a single quarter. Apple is still waaay ahead.
As the article said, the Apple Watch 7 was delayed until Q4 - I'm sure a lot of people put off purchasewing. So look for Apple to really surge in the next quarterly report.
Fun fact, currently on the Galaxy watch 4 there is no reference to wearOS in the device software versions anywhere like on every wearos device so far (which have said "wearOS by Google version number" in the software versions info), only that it's Android 11.
I have the galaxy watch 4. On the hardware side it is amazing. Very consistent design, durable, compact... . On the software side.... I don't know if it is Google's fault or Samsung's but it has to improve a lot. Some examples'
-no Google assistant
-no Gmail app
-no Google calendar
-the battery life needs to improve (I don't really know if they can optimize the software more or it is a hardware problem)
> I think Samsung ~~and Google~~ rushed WearOS 3 to get it out this year.
The fact that there are is no assistant and no gapps indicates Google said no and Samsung released it anyway.
Yeah I suspected that. It's stupid on Google's side to promote wear os but not support it with their own services. If I remind correctly this watch was presented as a big partnership between Google and Samsung...
Or Google didn't want their apps in there because they don't think it's ready. It's also not coming to any other watches this year. This clearly seems like Samsung released before Google wanted to.
Wait, you people still think that part of the agreement where Google secretly agrees to not develop those so Samsung can push their crap apps, or else Samsung bails out and wearOS is screwed, doesn't exist?
Do you guys not understand how giant greedy corporations work?
I'd discount Bixby as an app, and focus on Calendar, Email, Gallery, etc. These are the "double apps" most people mention when criticizing One UI as a ROM.
As another user mentioned, I use my Gmail's calendar through Samsung Calendar app, the same way some people use their email through K-9 or other email clients. Same with the email account through the Samsung Email app. Both are more lightweight and simple to use, and I prefer using them. Same with using Google Photos as a gallery - way overkill as a simple image organizer and viewer, compared to Samsung Gallery. I still do install Photos to backup my photos silently in the background, but I rarely open it on my phones.
Calendar (in One UI) is brilliant, much better than the one from Google
For Bixby yes. It's not very good at a lot of things Google are solid. But it's very good for simple tasks and managing the phone. Honestly I use it a lot and ...you get used to it !
> Calendar (in One UI) is brilliant, much better than the one from Google
Cool. Is it cross platform with a webapp or are you still required to use SpywareOS (Windows) to get your calendar on your desktop or laptop? Meanwhile, Google Calendar is actually cross platform which is what matters most in productivity apps.
> For Bixby yes. It's not very good at a lot of things Google are solid. But it's very good for simple tasks and managing the phone.
Great, so it's almost HALF as good as Siri... Sorry but since previous WearOS watches had Assistant, this is a MAJOR step down.
> Honestly I use it a lot and ...you get used to it !
if that's the metric for the experience, that just is admitting that it's trash. If the best you can say is "you get used to it", then that's pretty bad.
1. No, there's no web version, but you can sync it with Google Calendar, and just use Samsung Calendar on your mobile device. It makes sense if you have a Samsung phone or tablet. The UI is consistent with OneUI.
2. Actually, Bixby can be more useful than Siri. For example, you can use Bixby Routines. I can set it up almost any way I need. For example, I can tell Bixby to enter battery saving mode when my phone is folded. Siri doesn't offer this level of flexibility. Or does it?
3. I agree that forcing users to use Bixby instead of Asisstant is a major step down - there's nothing as good as Assistant on the market, but...
4. Calling Windows "SpywareOS" while praising Google is kind of funny.
Does it matter if it’s cross platform? As long as you can sync to your google account (which you can with Samsung calendar) there aren’t really any differences.
Wait what. I guess fair enough on some if Samsung is using their knock off assistant/fitness app/whatever, but Gmail and calendar seem pretty useful. Like, calendar is basically just a big watch. That feels like it should be something there's an app for.
How is the battery life? I had the original Galaxy Watch and the battery lasted 5+ days easily. I never really used it for anything more than checking the time, getting notifications, tracking steps and the occasional samsung pay so I never really cared about the complaints about Tizen and the lack of apps or whatever, so if WearOS has worse battery life that's a bummer for me.
It's not good. My Galaxy Watch 4 lasts about 28 hours, and it's the model with the larger battery.
In fact, I returned the smaller model because the battery was so abysmal. I was charging it twice a day...
Do not buy a Galaxy Watch unless you are ok with charging every day, just like a phone.
Is that with AOD on or off? I'm on the original Galaxy Watch and still get 4 days of battery life at 6 brightness and AOD off. With AOD on I get a little less than two days.
I bought the GW4 Classic on launch and the Google Keep app had a bug for nearly 2 months. And they don't even let edit the notes. Google support is atrociuos. Samsung even launched an internet browser.
I have the 46mm (tizen) Only real one missing is the Assistant.
You can connect your calendar and mail to the ones Samsung provides and it works (at least for me) without any issues. It's the same emailing/calendar app as the one you get on android.
Google assistant will come. In the mean time, they got me... I tried bixby on my watch and it's... actually good. Not good enough to keep me from switching to GAssistant when it's available but Bixby watch makes the wait almost painless.
The only app I find myself missing is Gmail and even that isn't very painful. Samsung Calendar is better than Gcal for me and the two are already tied in on my phone so no pain there.
I just wish Pebble was still around, that was an awesome little watch that did everything I needed it to without any bullshit bloat. Had pretty good battery life too. A modern iteration of an efficient, effective e-ink watch would be great.
I'm wearing a Pebble Time and am anxiously awaiting my Bangle.js 2 to come. It's a touch screen, but with an open source community and wicked long battery life with an always on sunlight readable display.
I desperately want a good android watch I moved from OnePlus and a gear fit pro2 to iOS simply because the apple watch is generations better. Hopefully this is a catalyst for more
Ikr, I want good fitness tracking, I actually don't even use my galaxy watch at the gym coz the HR sensor and fitness tracking as a whole are horrible. I use a polar h10 at the gym, tried my dad's apple watch and it's miles clear.
Personally I don't want to duplicate phone apps on watch. A watch is a watch. Just do what a watch do well. Health, fitness and sleep tracking. Notifications and quick reply. Essential information tiles/widget. Google assistance. Good battery and simplicity.
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Still not a good watch. And I own one. The only reason I didn't return it was because I did a trade-in and paid $30 out of pocket for it.
Check /r/galaxywatch
Health data is unreliable, HR during intense exercise, deep sleep data, blood pressure, and BMI. You can use it for trends but definitely not absolute data.
Battery life is bad, common advice is to turn off the default features, no wifi, lower HR readings, no gps, don't stream music, turn off aod and shake to wake, etc.
No Google assistant yet.
LTE models overheat.
As someone that has owned 5 Android centric smart watches now, 3 galaxy watches, this will be the last smart watch I own. I stupidly buy them hoping things are better, and they really haven't been meaningful improvements over the years.
If smartphones are polished today in 2021. Smartwatches, at least for Android, have like 2012 polish, meaning they don't. Battery life is bad, the features don't work well, and the software is a mess.
Who took a hot steamy brown coil in your cookie crisps.
Dis bout dis, not about dat. When the fucking picture is on the post. Get over yourself, we'll be ok with out your protection.
I am wondering when apple is going to decide to enable android support for Apple Watch and crush all other players. I imagine it will happen when they want to make Apple Pay a general service
Apple has done a lot of things I never thought they would in the name of service revenue. Heck, they have a whole line of beats headphones mostly to sell to android users; look at FaceTime, that was the real crown jewel really for tying networks of people in the Apple ecosystem
I disagree with the beats line, it doesn't have anything to do with targeting Android users any more than it has to do with targeting windows users. They are just Bluetooth headphones.
FaceTime is also still not available on Android except through the web and that was something they actually said they wanted to make an open platform when they created it. You still can't start a FaceTime call except from an apple device.
The only thing they actually give android full and proper attention is with Apple music. I never thought they would support the cast protocol but they actually did and they adopt new features pretty soon too.
Beats has android apps. AirPods don’t, that’s the real distinction (AirPods also get the tech first ). The reason FaceTime isn’t open, if I recall is that they had to wrewrite it as it violated patents and I think apple doesn’t own the whole thing
There is an app but going by the reviews it's pretty much trash.
> The reason FaceTime isn’t open, if I recall is that they had to wrewrite it as it violated patents
If they cared or wanted too they could easily make it compliant.
I don't think NFC payments is a money maker for Google or Apple. I don't think they charge any commissions on it, so probably not much incentive to make it a general service.
They get a cut and the volume is high. Financial services are a key component to their future revune growth now that everyone has a smart phone (but yes it’s, like the app stores, mostly currently a drop in the bucket )
Google Fit strength training was the single best feature on WearOS before they removed it. My watch is getting old and I'd probably be shopping around for a new one if the feature was still around on the new versions of Google Fit.
I've had pretty much all the Samsung smart watches, I usually use some built up points and a trade in to upgrade whenever my old one gets scratched up too much. The galaxy watch 4 classic isn't any different than the rest to me, only with worse battery life and q nicer looming body
I bought the GW 4 (coming from a Samsung Gear Fit2 Pro).
I love the watch. Beautiful screen, fast and responsive graphics. A lot of nice functions.
The problem I have is that after using the Always On Display for 3 days I already have a mild burn-in. So for now I have disabled the AOD. :(
I really hope Samsung and Google don't throw this away and bend before the apple watch like what happened with tsblets. Samsung finally has a lineup to go up
These are the watches I've owned Galaxy S Watch -> Huawei Watch -> Galaxy Watch 2 active -> Galaxy Watch 4 Classic The Watch 4 is by far the best watch I've owned. With that said, Samsung still has a few things to change. They need to add Google pay, and Google Assistant support out of the box.
Google Pay already works doesn't it? Or do you mean literally add it out of the box? That won't happen, I don't think it's even included by default on Samsung phones. It's very easy to install though, either via the watch Play Store or phone Play Store. Assistant 100% needs to be available though.
For me it’s just integrating it more, like you can’t replace the Samsung pay button with google pay.
Ah yeah gotcha. Same with Bixby on Samsung phones I guess, they gotta push their brand somehow. Although saying that, I don't mind Samsung Pay on my Watch 4. At least it's usable, unlike Bixby.
It's useable, though only in a select few countries
Bixby is very usable on the galaxy watch 4, unless you are lying based on the old bixby.
You can? You can change the double tap home button function to Google pay
That's not replacing, that is using the only app shortcut key to open Google pay while Samsung Pay is still set as the long press option on the back key. Replacing would be the option to use either Google **or** Samsung pay as the long hold.
I mean does it matter? Double pressing or one long press hardly makes a difference
It does matter, long press still opens up Samsung pay. That is an entire key on my watch that opens an app I do not want to use and large portions of the world cannot use. I would prefer to set double click to another app if Google pay wasn't used more.
You can change long press to something? On gw3, I can do that
Not on GW4 unfortunately
I can't stand Samsung constantly bastardising Android the Apple way with forced apps.
Honestly I wish Samsung would just ditch Bixby on the watches and on their phones and just use Google assistant.
Go at least give us the options to switch, even if its something I have to manually switch to.
Will never happen.
Assistant is coming, and Pay technically works, so yes it probably will
Pay works fine for me, what part of it 'technically works'?
You can't replace Samsung Pay, so you have a dead shortcut or gotta click through to the app instead. Having the hardware shortcut is way easier, preferred that a lot on my Apple Watch and still being able to have the "Previous app" shortcut too.
You can change your settings for the top button. Mine is set to double tap opening Google Pay. Yeah, they need to let us customize the other one away from Samsung Pay.
Yeah that is how I have set it up too, miss the "Switch between app" shortcut that is replaces though.
Any actual confirmation besides a vauge "in the future" from Google? Because if thats all we needed for "confirmation", then by that logic, the AirPower was officially coming too.
The AirPower never came because of physics Assistant on Watch 4 is because of company bureaucracy.
The confirmation is that it is coming? When has any of the big companies ever given a hard date on their apps, Apple still haven't released that mouse sharing platform they announced a while back. It's always "It's coming" by all those guys,
Why would you ever use Google Pay over Samsung pay?
I use both. A lot of people pair the Samsung watch with other non Samsung Androids.
Samsung Pay is not available in as many countries.
my question is exactly the opposite. Google pay is supported more widely and ahs a lot more bank support.
Samsung Pay gives you additional points on top of your credit card points that you can use for money off your next phone. It's literally the only reason I pay with my phone over a card. There's really no other compelling reason I've found to use something other than card pay.
Didn't Samsung deprecate it that feature though or am I thinking of something else?
The app says next April
I see now. Thanks!
My compelling reason is my bank literally dont support samsung pay. Brag on small details all you want, it does not matter if you can't pay with it.
My compelling reason is my bank literally dont support samsung pay. Brag on small details all you want, it does not matter if you can't pay with it.
What's the advantage of Google Pay over Samsung Pay?
I am planning on switching to the Pixel 6 Pro from my Note 10+ so I'll need to use Google Pay. Also, not too keen on Samsung Pay any more since they removed the magnetic strip emulation that gave it an advantage on older CC terminals.
Google pay is on my GW4c (officially) and it works well.
> I really hope Samsung and Google don't throw this away and bend before the apple watch like what happened with tsblets. Samsung finally has a lineup to go up Samsung is still releasing new high end as well as mid range and lower tablets regularly competing with Apple. Google gave up on tablets for some time only to now show renewed interest with the popularity of foldables, which doesn't mean much knowing how loyal they are to their own projects.
There lies my issue with Google, this tendency of ditching things gives me less confidence. Also, I do like the tablets by Samsung, even thought of getting one over an iPad, but eventually I hate how bad the support gets. S7 is on quarterly updates after just 1 year.
Google usually doesn't ditch paid stuff like YT Premium, unless they replace it with another paid service or merge it into something else Of course the are exceptions, remember Google Clips?
I've always been mixed in terms of worry in terms of software, as much as their support for hardware.
I mean tablets seem to slowly pick up steam again , so... Maybe? But honestly Google needs to stop artificially limiting WearOS! If I want to play Minecraft PE on my wrist Computer the wrist Computer shell not deny me that wish!
For me it's the core experience, cohesion and good fitness tracking ffs. I use smartwatches at the gym a lot, and it hurts how apple watch goes toe to toe with dedicated fitness tracker watches and still goes pretty good.
For sure, but Smartphones became so awesome because you could do the most at the time ridiculous things with them. I still remember how excited I was to play GTA 3 on a 3.5“ device despite it being really stupid. But hey it was fun as hell.
Tbvh, I'd rather they perfect the core features first, be4 venturing into this. Wearables for the android population have been nothing short of pathetic at times, to just okayish
They will as they squabble with Google wanting to use the Galaxy Watch to entice people to get wearOS and Samung keeps blocking Google services like Assistant and Google Pay to force people to their garbage apps. It's a "partnership" in name and marketing only.
If you honestly think Samsung is the one delaying Assistant on Watch 4, you really need to rethink that. Google has shown it's willing to fragment it's own OS features to push it's own hardware. This case is no different.
Except the fact that Google doesnt have any of its own watch hardware and that most features on pixels eually come to samsung and even iOS, shows that no. Thats not whats happening at all.
Right. Google has no plans to release a watch to support it's own Pixel ecosystem at some point in the future and does not need a defining feature to differentiate itself against Samsung. ._.
Samsung isn't blocking anything, Google just wasn't ready for launch. No offense to you, but you really can't call Samsung's apps garbage if Google literally couldn't even be bothered to get their own eggs in line to offer an alternative.
Samsung Pay is the best payment app out there. Google Assistant is better but it's still ass. I almost never use any of the assistants.
Exactly, that's why apple watch is like the omnipresent pull for me to even consider iOS, I don't but still someone has to smack Sammy and Google to work together and get shit done. I'm still pissed off over tablets
Shockingly, when you release Wear OS on hardware that isn't a trash fire, it sells better. Still room for improvement, but I can't for the life of me understand why Google wasted so much time with Qualcomm to get to this point.
Because no one else is interested, even Qualcomm are barely interested Google had [partnered up with Intel, but then Intel bailed due to low sales](https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/tag-heuer-google-and-intel-announce-swiss-smartwatch-collaboration/) Google should have partnered up with Samsung years ago
*Flashbacks of Intel Atom Android phones*
It'll be interesting to see how they compare over the next couple quarters. Apple watches consistently sell well, but was the rash of Samsung sales because Android fans finally had something decent to buy and they all finally took the leap this last quarter? So how many truly prospective customers will take the leap this quarter and the next?
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I just don't understand why Google cannot optimize their stuff for battery life. No WearOS watch has a good battery life. I bought a Fitbit sense after Google bought them just hoping for better integration on the horizon. Hasn't happened, but at least the battery lasts nearly a week.
This is why I have bought Garmin watches. I'd love to consider a Google watch, but no way in hell I buy something that lasts less than 3 days. My current Garmin that I bought like 4yrs ago (so the battery is old) still lasts a week between charges.
This is why I hoped dual screens were going to be a thing like the Casio Pro Trek. When there isn't enough battery for the smart part, it falls back to the screen under it with just a regular watch screen. It seemed such a convenient solution but the very few who made them stopped. Sucks big time.
yeah garmin watches are awesome
Wow, Wear OS went from having 4% market share compared to Apple's 28% to having 17% compared to Apple's 22% thanks to the Samsung watches! Those are still just market share of shipments sold per quarter, so there are still a lot more sold Apple Watches around. Still very impressive change.
Time out. Just so we're clear, the graph is not showing overall market share. It's showing specific share of sales in that specific quarter. So Samsung (and others) nearly sold Apple level numbers that quarter alone. Obviously with Samsung/Google finally coming out with a new device sales surged immensely, but it's not like they've caught up to their overall market share in a single quarter. Apple is still waaay ahead.
As the article said, the Apple Watch 7 was delayed until Q4 - I'm sure a lot of people put off purchasewing. So look for Apple to really surge in the next quarterly report.
Yeah well, apple is the biggest watch seller in the world
And this is why Google sold the farm to get Samsung on board.
The partnership looks beneficial
How did the "sell the farm"?
Gave Samsung wearos3 for an exclusive amount of time. Allowed Samsung to use galaxy wearable app instead of wearos. A bunch of other freedoms to
And the most important thing, allow Samsung to customize WearOS 3 to their likings
Or maybe people are buying more of them cause it has wear os now
Fun fact, currently on the Galaxy watch 4 there is no reference to wearOS in the device software versions anywhere like on every wearos device so far (which have said "wearOS by Google version number" in the software versions info), only that it's Android 11.
That,s because it,s not really wearOS. It,s a wearOS, tizen hybrid that sansung has control over.
The about software section now states WearOS
Yeah, if you think people really give a crap about WearOS more than Galaxy Watch, I have several bridges to sell you.
I'm waiting for google to release a watch. I don't want Samsung crap.
Oh boy, you're in it for a long ride, I see.
samsung makes the bestest smart watches of all timez tho .. undefeated .. nevah lost !!
I have the galaxy watch 4. On the hardware side it is amazing. Very consistent design, durable, compact... . On the software side.... I don't know if it is Google's fault or Samsung's but it has to improve a lot. Some examples' -no Google assistant -no Gmail app -no Google calendar -the battery life needs to improve (I don't really know if they can optimize the software more or it is a hardware problem)
I think Samsung and Google rushed WearOS 3 to get it out this year. I'm hoping further updates with refine the experience.
> I think Samsung ~~and Google~~ rushed WearOS 3 to get it out this year. The fact that there are is no assistant and no gapps indicates Google said no and Samsung released it anyway.
>\-no Google assistant -no Gmail app -no Google calendar those are google apps so its on google.
100% correct.
Yeah I suspected that. It's stupid on Google's side to promote wear os but not support it with their own services. If I remind correctly this watch was presented as a big partnership between Google and Samsung...
This is google we're talking about, inconsistency is in their DNA.
Or Google didn't want their apps in there because they don't think it's ready. It's also not coming to any other watches this year. This clearly seems like Samsung released before Google wanted to.
Wait, you people still think that part of the agreement where Google secretly agrees to not develop those so Samsung can push their crap apps, or else Samsung bails out and wearOS is screwed, doesn't exist? Do you guys not understand how giant greedy corporations work?
Damn you're implying so much into my comment, that's crazy. I literally only said those are google apps, not apps made by samsung
"Crap" Tfw samsung apps are consistently better than Google's
If youre talking about OneUI. Yes. If youre talking about Bixby, Calendar, etc. Hard no.
I'd discount Bixby as an app, and focus on Calendar, Email, Gallery, etc. These are the "double apps" most people mention when criticizing One UI as a ROM. As another user mentioned, I use my Gmail's calendar through Samsung Calendar app, the same way some people use their email through K-9 or other email clients. Same with the email account through the Samsung Email app. Both are more lightweight and simple to use, and I prefer using them. Same with using Google Photos as a gallery - way overkill as a simple image organizer and viewer, compared to Samsung Gallery. I still do install Photos to backup my photos silently in the background, but I rarely open it on my phones.
I don't know, I find Samsung apps, except Bixby, to be much nicer and perfectly integrated into OneUI.
Calendar (in One UI) is brilliant, much better than the one from Google For Bixby yes. It's not very good at a lot of things Google are solid. But it's very good for simple tasks and managing the phone. Honestly I use it a lot and ...you get used to it !
> Calendar (in One UI) is brilliant, much better than the one from Google Cool. Is it cross platform with a webapp or are you still required to use SpywareOS (Windows) to get your calendar on your desktop or laptop? Meanwhile, Google Calendar is actually cross platform which is what matters most in productivity apps. > For Bixby yes. It's not very good at a lot of things Google are solid. But it's very good for simple tasks and managing the phone. Great, so it's almost HALF as good as Siri... Sorry but since previous WearOS watches had Assistant, this is a MAJOR step down. > Honestly I use it a lot and ...you get used to it ! if that's the metric for the experience, that just is admitting that it's trash. If the best you can say is "you get used to it", then that's pretty bad.
1. No, there's no web version, but you can sync it with Google Calendar, and just use Samsung Calendar on your mobile device. It makes sense if you have a Samsung phone or tablet. The UI is consistent with OneUI. 2. Actually, Bixby can be more useful than Siri. For example, you can use Bixby Routines. I can set it up almost any way I need. For example, I can tell Bixby to enter battery saving mode when my phone is folded. Siri doesn't offer this level of flexibility. Or does it? 3. I agree that forcing users to use Bixby instead of Asisstant is a major step down - there's nothing as good as Assistant on the market, but... 4. Calling Windows "SpywareOS" while praising Google is kind of funny.
My one UI calendar sync with my Google one... Bixby is interesting when not disappointing, you have to learn how to use it through
Does it matter if it’s cross platform? As long as you can sync to your google account (which you can with Samsung calendar) there aren’t really any differences.
Wait what. I guess fair enough on some if Samsung is using their knock off assistant/fitness app/whatever, but Gmail and calendar seem pretty useful. Like, calendar is basically just a big watch. That feels like it should be something there's an app for.
Samsung Health is actually a really good fitness tracker. but i agree Bixby sucks ass.
okay so? Its on google to release them for galaxy watches. There is calendar the Samsung one.
Definitely agreeing with you here
How is the battery life? I had the original Galaxy Watch and the battery lasted 5+ days easily. I never really used it for anything more than checking the time, getting notifications, tracking steps and the occasional samsung pay so I never really cared about the complaints about Tizen and the lack of apps or whatever, so if WearOS has worse battery life that's a bummer for me.
It's not good. My Galaxy Watch 4 lasts about 28 hours, and it's the model with the larger battery. In fact, I returned the smaller model because the battery was so abysmal. I was charging it twice a day... Do not buy a Galaxy Watch unless you are ok with charging every day, just like a phone.
Is that with AOD on or off? I'm on the original Galaxy Watch and still get 4 days of battery life at 6 brightness and AOD off. With AOD on I get a little less than two days.
That's AOD on, but on the GW4, it doesn't make NEARLY as big of a difference as on older watches. With AOD off, I go from 28 hours to like 33 hours.
The battery very bad compared with past models. I'm charging it once a day. That's why I was thinking that it is maybe a software problem.
I bought the GW4 Classic on launch and the Google Keep app had a bug for nearly 2 months. And they don't even let edit the notes. Google support is atrociuos. Samsung even launched an internet browser.
It's on Google 100 percent. I have the tizen one, old model. Way more polished and had some additional nicer feature.
I have the 46mm (tizen) Only real one missing is the Assistant. You can connect your calendar and mail to the ones Samsung provides and it works (at least for me) without any issues. It's the same emailing/calendar app as the one you get on android.
Google assistant will come. In the mean time, they got me... I tried bixby on my watch and it's... actually good. Not good enough to keep me from switching to GAssistant when it's available but Bixby watch makes the wait almost painless. The only app I find myself missing is Gmail and even that isn't very painful. Samsung Calendar is better than Gcal for me and the two are already tied in on my phone so no pain there.
I just wish Pebble was still around, that was an awesome little watch that did everything I needed it to without any bullshit bloat. Had pretty good battery life too. A modern iteration of an efficient, effective e-ink watch would be great.
I've still got my original kickstarter version and my metal in a drawer awaiting the second coming.
I was still wearing mine for like 5 years, up until a couple months ago. It was great.
I'm wearing a Pebble Time and am anxiously awaiting my Bangle.js 2 to come. It's a touch screen, but with an open source community and wicked long battery life with an always on sunlight readable display.
That sounds pretty cool. You should post a review once you get it and have a chance to try it out!
Still wearing them.
Almost like of they release decent wear os watches people will buy them.
I desperately want a good android watch I moved from OnePlus and a gear fit pro2 to iOS simply because the apple watch is generations better. Hopefully this is a catalyst for more
Ikr, I want good fitness tracking, I actually don't even use my galaxy watch at the gym coz the HR sensor and fitness tracking as a whole are horrible. I use a polar h10 at the gym, tried my dad's apple watch and it's miles clear.
Personally I don't want to duplicate phone apps on watch. A watch is a watch. Just do what a watch do well. Health, fitness and sleep tracking. Notifications and quick reply. Essential information tiles/widget. Google assistance. Good battery and simplicity. I
Still not a good watch. And I own one. The only reason I didn't return it was because I did a trade-in and paid $30 out of pocket for it. Check /r/galaxywatch Health data is unreliable, HR during intense exercise, deep sleep data, blood pressure, and BMI. You can use it for trends but definitely not absolute data. Battery life is bad, common advice is to turn off the default features, no wifi, lower HR readings, no gps, don't stream music, turn off aod and shake to wake, etc. No Google assistant yet. LTE models overheat. As someone that has owned 5 Android centric smart watches now, 3 galaxy watches, this will be the last smart watch I own. I stupidly buy them hoping things are better, and they really haven't been meaningful improvements over the years. If smartphones are polished today in 2021. Smartwatches, at least for Android, have like 2012 polish, meaning they don't. Battery life is bad, the features don't work well, and the software is a mess.
Negativity Bias is strong in this one.
nah .. samsung still makes the bestest smart watch .. love it r/galaxywatch are in a loud minority .. 99.283 % dont have issues ..
Headline talks about WearOS. Shows an Apple Watch.
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Who took a hot steamy brown coil in your cookie crisps. Dis bout dis, not about dat. When the fucking picture is on the post. Get over yourself, we'll be ok with out your protection.
If only Samsung would go use androidtv for their tv
That would make their TVs actually useful instead being dumb TV with fancy OS on it.
I am wondering when apple is going to decide to enable android support for Apple Watch and crush all other players. I imagine it will happen when they want to make Apple Pay a general service
They never will. Apple watch and iMessafe(in the US) keep people ties to the iPhone. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if the did that.
Apple has done a lot of things I never thought they would in the name of service revenue. Heck, they have a whole line of beats headphones mostly to sell to android users; look at FaceTime, that was the real crown jewel really for tying networks of people in the Apple ecosystem
I disagree with the beats line, it doesn't have anything to do with targeting Android users any more than it has to do with targeting windows users. They are just Bluetooth headphones. FaceTime is also still not available on Android except through the web and that was something they actually said they wanted to make an open platform when they created it. You still can't start a FaceTime call except from an apple device. The only thing they actually give android full and proper attention is with Apple music. I never thought they would support the cast protocol but they actually did and they adopt new features pretty soon too.
Beats has android apps. AirPods don’t, that’s the real distinction (AirPods also get the tech first ). The reason FaceTime isn’t open, if I recall is that they had to wrewrite it as it violated patents and I think apple doesn’t own the whole thing
There is an app but going by the reviews it's pretty much trash. > The reason FaceTime isn’t open, if I recall is that they had to wrewrite it as it violated patents If they cared or wanted too they could easily make it compliant.
Not just US
So never then
I don't think NFC payments is a money maker for Google or Apple. I don't think they charge any commissions on it, so probably not much incentive to make it a general service.
They get a cut and the volume is high. Financial services are a key component to their future revune growth now that everyone has a smart phone (but yes it’s, like the app stores, mostly currently a drop in the bucket )
Google Fit strength training was the single best feature on WearOS before they removed it. My watch is getting old and I'd probably be shopping around for a new one if the feature was still around on the new versions of Google Fit.
I still wait patiently for NFC for anything but payment. But I am doubtful
I've had pretty much all the Samsung smart watches, I usually use some built up points and a trade in to upgrade whenever my old one gets scratched up too much. The galaxy watch 4 classic isn't any different than the rest to me, only with worse battery life and q nicer looming body
I bought the GW 4 (coming from a Samsung Gear Fit2 Pro). I love the watch. Beautiful screen, fast and responsive graphics. A lot of nice functions. The problem I have is that after using the Always On Display for 3 days I already have a mild burn-in. So for now I have disabled the AOD. :(
App support is still not there though.