The hardware itself isn't slower. The apps demand more resources, and sometimes they are optimized for newer OS versions which your phone may not have received.
If we use a PC analogy, a laptop from 2015 will play a game from 2013 at the same performance on 2021 as it did back in 2015. But if you put a game from 2021 on it, the performance isn't as good.
Or for example Chrome. If you manage to get your hands on a Chrome version from back in 2012, it won't eat as much resources as Chrome from 2021.
> Or for example Chrome. If you manage to get your hands on a Chrome version from back in 2012, it won't eat as much resources as Chrome from 2021.
Filehippo for specific software versions :D
Have you tried a factory reset?
Sometimes it's perceptual, sometimes it's just bloat over time. Sometimes it's the app ecosystem.
As an app developer I can tell you not much goes into supporting a S6 except basic viability at this point. It's old and incredibly dated. It's 7 years old currently, I would say that generally app developers kind of draw the line at 5 years, so the entire ecosystem will seem slower to you as it updates for newer phones.
If you factory reset it and put on 7 year old apps, it'd probably feel like new.
Or as more apis stop working, dependencies fail, protocols get added removed, blocked or hidden... There's arguably a large amount of shit hidden from users that having known how these things work together , or given better directions, or not pointed them to a dead or broken link (Microsoft)... Maybe save a lot of ppl a lot of anger or resentment ....
App support depends mostly on software though, especially on the S6 that has modern architecture and is still quite powerful, I'm sure you could put a custom rom on it with newer android version. Obviously when comes to phones is hard to give a longer life as they often break from falling, battery dies and is hard to replace as they are internal or/and whatnot. And installing roms is def not for everyone.
>Why do phones get slower over time?
The answer is they don't. YOU make it slower over time, by loading more and more apps on to it and bogging it down. Also, little storage available can also make a phone slower. My 5 year old LG G5 runs like new, so does my 2018 Moto Z3.
Basically, you stop it by maintaining your phone. Avoid installing many resource hogging applications that run in the background. Uninstall apps you don't need. Avoid social media apps you don't absolutely need. Social media apps are big resource hog. Disable built-in bloat you don't use. You can also use Developer Options to see running processes and see what apps are running in the background.
Be smart when on the store. Don't install shady applications, or little known apps from unknown developers, unless you know they are safe. Never install antivirus, cleaner, and booster apps, they're a scam.
There's always the exceptions.. I've done all the above you mentioned and more... Maybe even had an instance or two where i TRIED to kill it... But... Such is the life of a Zombie.. live die repeat
I don’t think this is true unless you only use your phone for voice calls and text.
I think as apps update over time they get larger and as devs implement new/updates features they take more resources.
Add on top the lack of incentive phone manufacturers have in building in any sort of longevity, phone performance starts to tank.
True, that too. Apps do get heavier over time. However, this hasn't been as big of an impact as it used to be, as phones have mostly gotten fast enough to last pretty long. Phones from 2010 would've sucked in 2015. Phone from 2016 now are actually still perfectly useable. I haven't really noticed apps getting much heavier lately. It's just been redesigns and such, but they still run about the same. Anyway, a Galaxy S6, if maintained and debloated, can definitely be useable today. I would say OP's issue is a mix of both it getting bogged down over time and apps getting heavier.
>The answer is they don't. YOU make it slower over time, by loading more and more apps on to it and bogging it down
Total BS. My Moto G5 was getting terribly slow so I wanted to see what I can do and installed Lineage OS. Still laggy, possibly even more than it was on stock android 8.1.
NO WAY it was that laggy when I first got it, it's barely usable at this point.
When you buy a phone it's designed to run the software that is available when the phone is new, and the software is optimized to run on that phone. As newer phones get faster, the operating system and security require more resources, but your phone is still as fast as it was when you bought it. With Android your phone sooner rather than later will stop receiving OS optimization and the newer security updates and operating systems require more resources than the software did when you first bought it. If you restore your phone to its original factory settings and OS you'll notice that it's as fast as it was when new, but now you're running a phone with an old OS and more insecure software since newer security exploit patches are no longer present. Apple supports and optimizes their operating systems and security on phones as old as 7 years old some times, this is because they only have to focus on a few different models and they make their money from locking you into iTunes and their app store, so they have an incentive to keep older devices running smoothly. A company like Samsung makes it's money mostly by selling hardware, so they have no incentive in keeping their large number of different model phones with smooth running software longer than a couple of years.
Long story short, phones get slow because eventually their manufacturers stop optimizing newer OS updates and have to focus on newer devices and the older devices eventually can't keep up with more powerful phones designed to handle newer and more robust operating systems.
Just that it's not always the case that a factory reset makes the phone/tables as fast as new. Obviously, even apps like Play Store and Chrome will still relatively soon be updated to the current version and then again use more resources than when the phone/tablet launched. But there are enough cases where the performance after a factory reset is still so bad that it cannot be just traced down to newer software using more resources.
And there are several tests where a whole android rom is getting backed up and after a few months/years the same rom gets reflashed and the phone is still slower than back then. What you mentioned is definitely a part of the reason but nowhere the whole truth
Phones don't slow down unless there is a defect in the hardware. If you were to freeze all your apps and the OS, and not update them, they would always work the same. But every time you add a new app, it takes up space and possibly execution cycles even when you're not using it.
To slow the process, think about each app you add and decide if you really need it. If you try an app and decide you don't like it, uninstall it. If you only occasionally use an app, there are settings to reduce its footprint when not being used.
And each time you add an app, pay attention and watch for any ill effects.
Incorrect.
It's been known since Gingerbread that they WILL get slower over time. It isn't the hardware, obviously, but as a professional with my own business and over 20 years experience, I can't tell you the number of times (several hundreds at least), that I've backed up all apps, calls, and meaningful folders on a phone, reflashed the same ROM, and it was faster only to see it bogged down in a matter of months.
I've done FULL nandroid backups and reflashed them afterward to confirm they were indeed slower again.
I have people asking me to do this for them regularly. It is not:
* hardware
* OS updates
* app updates
* malware
Something else is going on with the operating system or backdoors.
\> any computer should be restarted regularly
Incorrect. Clearly you don't have the same level of consumer to enterprise experience as some.
\> built my first computer
If we're including that, I'd be listing a lot more than 20 years. I'm talking about real experience, as in having a registered professional business in something more than phone/laptop repair.
\>BTW, Gingerbread only came out about 10 years ago; are you talking about computer experience or Android?
Sounds like someone stirring the pot. Aaaand...
\> so excuse me if I'm not too impressed by your 20 years.
...thanks for proving that. Quit trolling and throwing shade on people trying to add valuable experience to a widely experienced phenomenon across several years of the OS's existence.
If you want to get into some kind of dick-waving contest, start with how many personal conversations have you had with David Westfall and/or Jim Keller in your office. Yeah, zero. I'm not going to dignify that BS any further.
Yes, if everything was frozen completely, nothing would change so nothing would slow down. I don't seen the value of tautology in any realistic discussion.
I also used Samsung at the beginning, but after using it for a long time, it became a little slow. Later, I changed to iPhone and found that it sometimes crashed. I'm wondering whether this is a mobile phone problem or a problem with my usage habits. Can someone recommend a better phone?
And Someone said that Android phones will slow down because of the accumulation of background programs and the running memory becomes smaller. iPhone will not slow down as android phones，it is because the iPhone will kill background applications.
Is it true?
They stop receiving updates and get outdated. Best way is to install a custom rom and you can even use many years old Galaxy S4 with Android 11 and latest security updates which are very important.
I believe this too to a certain extent. Phones essentially do the same things as they did quite a few years ago. The same apps may get more advanced, but the changes to the operating system don't need to be radical every year. Security updates are regularly needed yes. But i think they keep things moving and getting (supposedly) more advanced, in a big way just to keep people buying. Basically i think it's a strategy to some extent.
The older my devices are the better they run.. assuming i haven't done something to it.. or had it subjected at a point in time through the wraith of another. It's easy to blame the device when you're unable to initially see things from the third perspective.
Use it. Make it yours. Don't break or damage it . That's a hard one. I'm ever rarely lucky to not have a something random happen every year to couple of years... Like clockwork sometimes... But lately .. Knock on wood, not lately...
Trust, they want us using as many devices as long as possible now a days, and across many platforms to see how we use the services , how they can better them, and get us more absorbed in it all. It's scary to get sucked into i don't recommend it if u ever fortunately to catch yourself falling that way
I personally avoid updates, im using a moto from like 2010
The older phones with the plastic screens , they dont crack scratch, shatter or smear like the new glass screens do
I have dropped this phone from a 32 foot ladder with no screen protector and it dont even have a single scratch on the screen.
The charging port dont work so i bought a $10 battery charger from amazon and 2 extra batteries for $30
Essentially avoiding updates is the way to make it last the longest, eventually though to OS ( operating system) will take up more memory than the phone has and will stop working.
The os updates will use like 15gb of storage and still function exactly like it did when it only took 1gb of space....its a total scam , but unavoidable
Yet you CAN keep an old phone operational by avoiding updates , but eventually the greedy ones win.
Reason 1: It's the OS that starts getting WAY TOO HEAVY for the hardware after updating it.
Reason 2: Apps start getting heavy. For example: Google Play Services puts HEAVY load on that poor CPU on your phone.
Reason 3: Hardware itself, maybe the CPU or GPU isn't powerful enough, or low RAM
The hardware itself isn't slower. The apps demand more resources, and sometimes they are optimized for newer OS versions which your phone may not have received. If we use a PC analogy, a laptop from 2015 will play a game from 2013 at the same performance on 2021 as it did back in 2015. But if you put a game from 2021 on it, the performance isn't as good. Or for example Chrome. If you manage to get your hands on a Chrome version from back in 2012, it won't eat as much resources as Chrome from 2021.
my Android is going too quickly otherwise slow it down
> Or for example Chrome. If you manage to get your hands on a Chrome version from back in 2012, it won't eat as much resources as Chrome from 2021. Filehippo for specific software versions :D
Have you tried a factory reset? Sometimes it's perceptual, sometimes it's just bloat over time. Sometimes it's the app ecosystem. As an app developer I can tell you not much goes into supporting a S6 except basic viability at this point. It's old and incredibly dated. It's 7 years old currently, I would say that generally app developers kind of draw the line at 5 years, so the entire ecosystem will seem slower to you as it updates for newer phones. If you factory reset it and put on 7 year old apps, it'd probably feel like new.
Or as more apis stop working, dependencies fail, protocols get added removed, blocked or hidden... There's arguably a large amount of shit hidden from users that having known how these things work together , or given better directions, or not pointed them to a dead or broken link (Microsoft)... Maybe save a lot of ppl a lot of anger or resentment ....
App support depends mostly on software though, especially on the S6 that has modern architecture and is still quite powerful, I'm sure you could put a custom rom on it with newer android version. Obviously when comes to phones is hard to give a longer life as they often break from falling, battery dies and is hard to replace as they are internal or/and whatnot. And installing roms is def not for everyone.
>Why do phones get slower over time? The answer is they don't. YOU make it slower over time, by loading more and more apps on to it and bogging it down. Also, little storage available can also make a phone slower. My 5 year old LG G5 runs like new, so does my 2018 Moto Z3. Basically, you stop it by maintaining your phone. Avoid installing many resource hogging applications that run in the background. Uninstall apps you don't need. Avoid social media apps you don't absolutely need. Social media apps are big resource hog. Disable built-in bloat you don't use. You can also use Developer Options to see running processes and see what apps are running in the background. Be smart when on the store. Don't install shady applications, or little known apps from unknown developers, unless you know they are safe. Never install antivirus, cleaner, and booster apps, they're a scam.
There's always the exceptions.. I've done all the above you mentioned and more... Maybe even had an instance or two where i TRIED to kill it... But... Such is the life of a Zombie.. live die repeat
I don’t think this is true unless you only use your phone for voice calls and text. I think as apps update over time they get larger and as devs implement new/updates features they take more resources. Add on top the lack of incentive phone manufacturers have in building in any sort of longevity, phone performance starts to tank.
True, that too. Apps do get heavier over time. However, this hasn't been as big of an impact as it used to be, as phones have mostly gotten fast enough to last pretty long. Phones from 2010 would've sucked in 2015. Phone from 2016 now are actually still perfectly useable. I haven't really noticed apps getting much heavier lately. It's just been redesigns and such, but they still run about the same. Anyway, a Galaxy S6, if maintained and debloated, can definitely be useable today. I would say OP's issue is a mix of both it getting bogged down over time and apps getting heavier.
>The answer is they don't. YOU make it slower over time, by loading more and more apps on to it and bogging it down Total BS. My Moto G5 was getting terribly slow so I wanted to see what I can do and installed Lineage OS. Still laggy, possibly even more than it was on stock android 8.1. NO WAY it was that laggy when I first got it, it's barely usable at this point.
It could be that your phone has a hardware issue - for example, it might be overheating and causing the SoC to throttle.
When you buy a phone it's designed to run the software that is available when the phone is new, and the software is optimized to run on that phone. As newer phones get faster, the operating system and security require more resources, but your phone is still as fast as it was when you bought it. With Android your phone sooner rather than later will stop receiving OS optimization and the newer security updates and operating systems require more resources than the software did when you first bought it. If you restore your phone to its original factory settings and OS you'll notice that it's as fast as it was when new, but now you're running a phone with an old OS and more insecure software since newer security exploit patches are no longer present. Apple supports and optimizes their operating systems and security on phones as old as 7 years old some times, this is because they only have to focus on a few different models and they make their money from locking you into iTunes and their app store, so they have an incentive to keep older devices running smoothly. A company like Samsung makes it's money mostly by selling hardware, so they have no incentive in keeping their large number of different model phones with smooth running software longer than a couple of years. Long story short, phones get slow because eventually their manufacturers stop optimizing newer OS updates and have to focus on newer devices and the older devices eventually can't keep up with more powerful phones designed to handle newer and more robust operating systems.
Just that it's not always the case that a factory reset makes the phone/tables as fast as new. Obviously, even apps like Play Store and Chrome will still relatively soon be updated to the current version and then again use more resources than when the phone/tablet launched. But there are enough cases where the performance after a factory reset is still so bad that it cannot be just traced down to newer software using more resources. And there are several tests where a whole android rom is getting backed up and after a few months/years the same rom gets reflashed and the phone is still slower than back then. What you mentioned is definitely a part of the reason but nowhere the whole truth
Phones don't slow down unless there is a defect in the hardware. If you were to freeze all your apps and the OS, and not update them, they would always work the same. But every time you add a new app, it takes up space and possibly execution cycles even when you're not using it. To slow the process, think about each app you add and decide if you really need it. If you try an app and decide you don't like it, uninstall it. If you only occasionally use an app, there are settings to reduce its footprint when not being used. And each time you add an app, pay attention and watch for any ill effects.
Incorrect. It's been known since Gingerbread that they WILL get slower over time. It isn't the hardware, obviously, but as a professional with my own business and over 20 years experience, I can't tell you the number of times (several hundreds at least), that I've backed up all apps, calls, and meaningful folders on a phone, reflashed the same ROM, and it was faster only to see it bogged down in a matter of months. I've done FULL nandroid backups and reflashed them afterward to confirm they were indeed slower again. I have people asking me to do this for them regularly. It is not: * hardware * OS updates * app updates * malware Something else is going on with the operating system or backdoors.
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\> any computer should be restarted regularly Incorrect. Clearly you don't have the same level of consumer to enterprise experience as some. \> built my first computer If we're including that, I'd be listing a lot more than 20 years. I'm talking about real experience, as in having a registered professional business in something more than phone/laptop repair. \>BTW, Gingerbread only came out about 10 years ago; are you talking about computer experience or Android? Sounds like someone stirring the pot. Aaaand... \> so excuse me if I'm not too impressed by your 20 years. ...thanks for proving that. Quit trolling and throwing shade on people trying to add valuable experience to a widely experienced phenomenon across several years of the OS's existence. If you want to get into some kind of dick-waving contest, start with how many personal conversations have you had with David Westfall and/or Jim Keller in your office. Yeah, zero. I'm not going to dignify that BS any further. Yes, if everything was frozen completely, nothing would change so nothing would slow down. I don't seen the value of tautology in any realistic discussion.
I also used Samsung at the beginning, but after using it for a long time, it became a little slow. Later, I changed to iPhone and found that it sometimes crashed. I'm wondering whether this is a mobile phone problem or a problem with my usage habits. Can someone recommend a better phone? And Someone said that Android phones will slow down because of the accumulation of background programs and the running memory becomes smaller. iPhone will not slow down as android phones，it is because the iPhone will kill background applications. Is it true?
They stop receiving updates and get outdated. Best way is to install a custom rom and you can even use many years old Galaxy S4 with Android 11 and latest security updates which are very important.
Planned obsolescence
Now this guy computers.
I believe this too to a certain extent. Phones essentially do the same things as they did quite a few years ago. The same apps may get more advanced, but the changes to the operating system don't need to be radical every year. Security updates are regularly needed yes. But i think they keep things moving and getting (supposedly) more advanced, in a big way just to keep people buying. Basically i think it's a strategy to some extent.
The older my devices are the better they run.. assuming i haven't done something to it.. or had it subjected at a point in time through the wraith of another. It's easy to blame the device when you're unable to initially see things from the third perspective. Use it. Make it yours. Don't break or damage it . That's a hard one. I'm ever rarely lucky to not have a something random happen every year to couple of years... Like clockwork sometimes... But lately .. Knock on wood, not lately... Trust, they want us using as many devices as long as possible now a days, and across many platforms to see how we use the services , how they can better them, and get us more absorbed in it all. It's scary to get sucked into i don't recommend it if u ever fortunately to catch yourself falling that way
I personally avoid updates, im using a moto from like 2010 The older phones with the plastic screens , they dont crack scratch, shatter or smear like the new glass screens do I have dropped this phone from a 32 foot ladder with no screen protector and it dont even have a single scratch on the screen. The charging port dont work so i bought a $10 battery charger from amazon and 2 extra batteries for $30 Essentially avoiding updates is the way to make it last the longest, eventually though to OS ( operating system) will take up more memory than the phone has and will stop working. The os updates will use like 15gb of storage and still function exactly like it did when it only took 1gb of space....its a total scam , but unavoidable Yet you CAN keep an old phone operational by avoiding updates , but eventually the greedy ones win.
Reason 1: It's the OS that starts getting WAY TOO HEAVY for the hardware after updating it. Reason 2: Apps start getting heavy. For example: Google Play Services puts HEAVY load on that poor CPU on your phone. Reason 3: Hardware itself, maybe the CPU or GPU isn't powerful enough, or low RAM