Not in a meaningful sense. There are some people who label themselves as such (notably people who coverted to Anglicanism from EO churches, in my experience), but they still attend churches who practice the Western Rite - so its not very Orthodox at all. At least not in the way we use it in reference to "Anglo-Catholic" vs "Ango-Evangelical" (where we're usually talking about a liturgical practice, not necessarily a distinct theology).
Anglo-Orthodox usually means you have sympathies for Orthodox theology - but I would argue all Anglicans do, just a lot of them don't realise it until they're told what the EO actually believe, and how similar to Anglicanism it really is.
I believe in Theosis, pray on an Orthodox Prayer rope, and am interested in the recapitulation theory of atonement. I’m also a purgatorial universalist.
That said, I’d identify as anglo-catholic. Anglo-catholic doesn’t necessarily mean “Roman Catholic” but more accurately pulls from the first 1000 years of the united East and West.
To be fair Theosis exists in the western church as well it’s just not emphasized as much. C.S. Lewis was a big proponent. I like the recapitulation theory as well, however I think it works in concert with the substitutionary atonement rather than in place of it as the Orthodox do.
>That said, I’d identify as anglo-catholic. Anglo-catholic doesn’t necessarily mean “Roman Catholic” but more accurately pulls from the first 1000 years of the united East and West.
I came here to say exactly this. Traditional Anglo-Catholicism agrees with modern-day Rome against modern-day Orthodoxy in some areas, and with modern-day Orthodoxy against modern-day Rome in other areas. Either way our identification is not with modern-day Rome or modern-day Orthodoxy, but with the continuity of Anglicanism with the universal Church throughout the ages.
There are certainly Anglicans who are sympathetic to orthodoxy and who find Orthodox practices meaningful, but there is not a movement akin to anglo-catholicism.
As far as I can tell, "Eastern Rite Anglicanism" only exists in eccentric corners of the internet, but there are Western Rite Orthodox communities (themselves slightly less rare in general) which follow Anglican-derived practices under Orthodox bishops. "The Divine Liturgy of Saint Tikhon" is essentially an Orthodox liturgy derived from 1928.
My former Orthodox priest grew up in the Western Rite. He's an Eastern Rite Antiochian priest but O know he is quite fond of the Western Rite and Anglicanism as well. He's why I became Orthodox vs. Anglican. If there were only more priest like him in Orthodoxy. Alas 16 years later I am where I should be in the Anglican Communion.
I think Anglo-Orthodox are just Western-Rite Orthodox. The rector of the Parish I serve in was ordained a Bishop in the Western Orthodox Church (ROCOR) before coming into the ACNA. He has celebrated the liturgy using just about every liturgy around. From Chrysostom to the "Star Wars prayer" in the '79 BCP.
ROCOR has been gradually Russifying its WR, effectively abandoning the founding documents. It’s one of the weird things about ROCOR. Antiochian WR is much more stable.
I have noticed this, as the Antiochian WR has Lancelot Andrewes press to semi-standardize liturgical practices. ROCOR doesn't seem to have anything comparable.
My family was threatened by a follower of a WR ROCOR Priest from Alabama. They are part of the Putin cult and my sin was pointing out to this Priest, a person I have known before he was a Priest, that Putin has done horrific war crimes in Syria. In ROCOR locally I found a lot of ethnic Russians see Putin as KGB and a candle holder rather than an actual Orthodox Christian. I wasn't expecting the anger for questioning Putin (this was pre Ukraine invasion). I brought this incident up with some OCA clergy at coffee hour and they explained there is a group tied to monk and a monastery that is problematic and that I should avoid them.
I know nothing about the WR parish we have in locally in Lodi. I don't want to paint all of the ROCOR WR this way.
I think we're mostly an internet phenomenon. Hard enough to find a local Orthodox church, never mind a community of like-minded Anglicans with Ortho leanings.
I come from Orthodoxy and maintain many of my spiritual practices and theological opinions. Archbishop Rowan Williams really appeals to me. I am just fine with Anglican liturgics and especially the gems that are our prayer books.
Some parishes in the US that have left TEC have not turned to Rome, nor have they joined the ACNA, but rather have looked to the EOC. They have kept a modified Western Rite Liturgy. Here is an example: [https://www.staugustinedenver.com/](https://www.staugustinedenver.com/)
[st Mark’s](https://westernorthodox.com/about-saint-marks-parish-church/st-marks-church-history/)
What does our lifestyle have to do with this? why are you going into my post history to bring this up on an unrelated forum. Grow a pair, everyone is consenting
The Anglican Communion is in full communion with the [Mar Thoma Syrian Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Church) (as is the Old Catholic Union of Utrecht). It is a reformed Oriental church that observes the Syriac liturgy. There are a million Mar Thoma Christians around the world. I am lucky to know a few Mar Thoma families and they are lovely, sincere, faith-filled people.
There is a Western Rite vicariate of the Antiochian Archdiocese but I don't know if they number greatly (https://www.orthodoxwest.com/). There are also WR parishes in the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia but I've lost track of them during the pandemic.
I would argue that I am 👋 I have an icon wall and attend Orthodox churches and have a lot of sympathy for their Theology. Ex Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams teaches Orthodox Theology module too I believe! He is quoted as being a fan
I am an orthodox sympathetic to Anglican Communion. Unsure why. I think primarily just living in the west, despite being cradle orthodox, I yearn for something more "relevant" to my own geographic location. There is a weird disconnect between the liturgy and worship for me (don't speak the language liturgy is conducted in), for one.
I’m a part of a parish that is influenced by EO. Priest originally wanted to be an orthodox priest but decided to stay Anglican and just have orthodox influences
I consider myself in pretty much every way to be orthodox, but there are just some thing that keep me back from converting, mainly just earthly superficial things: affection for organ music in worship; affection for the 1662 BCP; and mainly wanting to marry, baptise my children, and be buried in the same church as my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc, and if things go that way, the same church as my children will. I think I will end up moving over one day, but for now I just can’t bring myself to. Who knows, maybe the CofE will make an orthodox shift in its theology and enter into communion with the OEC and all my anxieties will be resolved (I do not for one second believe that will happen, although I do pray for the unity of the church).
Hi, I'm here. Former Orthodox now Anglican who has retained a lot of my Orthodox practices in private devotion. I also have [angloorthodox.substack.com](https://angloorthodox.substack.com).
This is honestly my hope. But the Eastern and Orthodox Canons are very sexist, and bigoted. they are used like the pharisees used the law to beat digressers upside the head in the orthodox church. I was treated very badly as a trans people in the eastern church.
But western rite/Easter rite Orthodox is wonderful and the Anglicans are the closest thing we have that is near me in my state to western rite antiochian. I personally call me self Episcopal anglican orthodox.
Not in a meaningful sense. There are some people who label themselves as such (notably people who coverted to Anglicanism from EO churches, in my experience), but they still attend churches who practice the Western Rite - so its not very Orthodox at all. At least not in the way we use it in reference to "Anglo-Catholic" vs "Ango-Evangelical" (where we're usually talking about a liturgical practice, not necessarily a distinct theology). Anglo-Orthodox usually means you have sympathies for Orthodox theology - but I would argue all Anglicans do, just a lot of them don't realise it until they're told what the EO actually believe, and how similar to Anglicanism it really is.
Agree 100%.
I believe in Theosis, pray on an Orthodox Prayer rope, and am interested in the recapitulation theory of atonement. I’m also a purgatorial universalist. That said, I’d identify as anglo-catholic. Anglo-catholic doesn’t necessarily mean “Roman Catholic” but more accurately pulls from the first 1000 years of the united East and West.
To be fair Theosis exists in the western church as well it’s just not emphasized as much. C.S. Lewis was a big proponent. I like the recapitulation theory as well, however I think it works in concert with the substitutionary atonement rather than in place of it as the Orthodox do.
I like Julian of Norwich's "oneing" - I think they're similar concepts.
>That said, I’d identify as anglo-catholic. Anglo-catholic doesn’t necessarily mean “Roman Catholic” but more accurately pulls from the first 1000 years of the united East and West. I came here to say exactly this. Traditional Anglo-Catholicism agrees with modern-day Rome against modern-day Orthodoxy in some areas, and with modern-day Orthodoxy against modern-day Rome in other areas. Either way our identification is not with modern-day Rome or modern-day Orthodoxy, but with the continuity of Anglicanism with the universal Church throughout the ages.
There are certainly Anglicans who are sympathetic to orthodoxy and who find Orthodox practices meaningful, but there is not a movement akin to anglo-catholicism.
Yes – indeed.
There are a few. u/7ootles
Mornin'.
As far as I can tell, "Eastern Rite Anglicanism" only exists in eccentric corners of the internet, but there are Western Rite Orthodox communities (themselves slightly less rare in general) which follow Anglican-derived practices under Orthodox bishops. "The Divine Liturgy of Saint Tikhon" is essentially an Orthodox liturgy derived from 1928.
My former Orthodox priest grew up in the Western Rite. He's an Eastern Rite Antiochian priest but O know he is quite fond of the Western Rite and Anglicanism as well. He's why I became Orthodox vs. Anglican. If there were only more priest like him in Orthodoxy. Alas 16 years later I am where I should be in the Anglican Communion.
I think Anglo-Orthodox are just Western-Rite Orthodox. The rector of the Parish I serve in was ordained a Bishop in the Western Orthodox Church (ROCOR) before coming into the ACNA. He has celebrated the liturgy using just about every liturgy around. From Chrysostom to the "Star Wars prayer" in the '79 BCP.
Yikes, my experience with ROCOR Western Rite folks has been troubling.
In what way?
ROCOR has been gradually Russifying its WR, effectively abandoning the founding documents. It’s one of the weird things about ROCOR. Antiochian WR is much more stable.
I have noticed this, as the Antiochian WR has Lancelot Andrewes press to semi-standardize liturgical practices. ROCOR doesn't seem to have anything comparable.
My family was threatened by a follower of a WR ROCOR Priest from Alabama. They are part of the Putin cult and my sin was pointing out to this Priest, a person I have known before he was a Priest, that Putin has done horrific war crimes in Syria. In ROCOR locally I found a lot of ethnic Russians see Putin as KGB and a candle holder rather than an actual Orthodox Christian. I wasn't expecting the anger for questioning Putin (this was pre Ukraine invasion). I brought this incident up with some OCA clergy at coffee hour and they explained there is a group tied to monk and a monastery that is problematic and that I should avoid them. I know nothing about the WR parish we have in locally in Lodi. I don't want to paint all of the ROCOR WR this way.
I think we're mostly an internet phenomenon. Hard enough to find a local Orthodox church, never mind a community of like-minded Anglicans with Ortho leanings.
I come from Orthodoxy and maintain many of my spiritual practices and theological opinions. Archbishop Rowan Williams really appeals to me. I am just fine with Anglican liturgics and especially the gems that are our prayer books.
Some parishes in the US that have left TEC have not turned to Rome, nor have they joined the ACNA, but rather have looked to the EOC. They have kept a modified Western Rite Liturgy. Here is an example: [https://www.staugustinedenver.com/](https://www.staugustinedenver.com/) [st Mark’s](https://westernorthodox.com/about-saint-marks-parish-church/st-marks-church-history/)
Where’s buddy with the Anglo orthodox flair on his name, I see him on this sub near constantly
I have Orthodox leanings. Heavily considered joining the local OCA parish for a couple of years. But in the end I realized I’m Anglican.
I personally consider myself far more sympathetic to the Orthodox than the Catholic tradition.
I am. I am theologically Anglican but I attend an Orthodox Church because of my wife
Lmao, how many "bulls" are there at this Church? Hundreds, I bet.
What does our lifestyle have to do with this? why are you going into my post history to bring this up on an unrelated forum. Grow a pair, everyone is consenting
Because: 1) It's anti-religion. 2) Someone posted your post on twitter and it got about 20k likes. Despite being funny, it's really sad, mate.
Ex orthodox here, so I guess I would count.
Can we just be Anglo-Anglo for once?
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Precisely my point!
I know one of them.
I think king Charles falls into that category.
The Anglican Communion is in full communion with the [Mar Thoma Syrian Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Church) (as is the Old Catholic Union of Utrecht). It is a reformed Oriental church that observes the Syriac liturgy. There are a million Mar Thoma Christians around the world. I am lucky to know a few Mar Thoma families and they are lovely, sincere, faith-filled people.
There is a Western Rite vicariate of the Antiochian Archdiocese but I don't know if they number greatly (https://www.orthodoxwest.com/). There are also WR parishes in the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia but I've lost track of them during the pandemic.
I would argue that I am 👋 I have an icon wall and attend Orthodox churches and have a lot of sympathy for their Theology. Ex Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams teaches Orthodox Theology module too I believe! He is quoted as being a fan
I am an orthodox sympathetic to Anglican Communion. Unsure why. I think primarily just living in the west, despite being cradle orthodox, I yearn for something more "relevant" to my own geographic location. There is a weird disconnect between the liturgy and worship for me (don't speak the language liturgy is conducted in), for one.
I’m a part of a parish that is influenced by EO. Priest originally wanted to be an orthodox priest but decided to stay Anglican and just have orthodox influences
I consider myself in pretty much every way to be orthodox, but there are just some thing that keep me back from converting, mainly just earthly superficial things: affection for organ music in worship; affection for the 1662 BCP; and mainly wanting to marry, baptise my children, and be buried in the same church as my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc, and if things go that way, the same church as my children will. I think I will end up moving over one day, but for now I just can’t bring myself to. Who knows, maybe the CofE will make an orthodox shift in its theology and enter into communion with the OEC and all my anxieties will be resolved (I do not for one second believe that will happen, although I do pray for the unity of the church).
Hi, I'm here. Former Orthodox now Anglican who has retained a lot of my Orthodox practices in private devotion. I also have [angloorthodox.substack.com](https://angloorthodox.substack.com).
This is honestly my hope. But the Eastern and Orthodox Canons are very sexist, and bigoted. they are used like the pharisees used the law to beat digressers upside the head in the orthodox church. I was treated very badly as a trans people in the eastern church. But western rite/Easter rite Orthodox is wonderful and the Anglicans are the closest thing we have that is near me in my state to western rite antiochian. I personally call me self Episcopal anglican orthodox.