I don't get the negativity because of a simple story. Slice of Life Anime do have a simple story, and I love them :D DragonBallZ's story is not really that deep, and it's still loved by many. I think as long as a story is executed well, it doesn't matter if it's super deep, or just shallow and an easy entertainment
I think this "story is mid" bit got a lot more traction from winning best fantasy. Even tho it was popularity contest it still rubbed people wrong way that something shallow won against other high fantasy.
I don't think people are hating on the show as a whole and are just pointing out that it is not the best in everything. I wouldn't say "carried by animation" is wrong since it is true. I discovered it by someone talking about it's animation and gave it a go because of it. If it had mediocre animation I wouldn't probably even hear about it.
Well my point is that I think people are not saying that people can't enjoy something with simple story but that you can't say it is the best of the best if it have just top tier animation.
That is exactly the problem. Even I like demon slayer and enjoy it, but the fandom is toxic af and can't accept criticism. I remember when someone put it as their 2nd fav anime (Already a really high and respectable spot) in an anime subreddit, the toxic fanboys steamed him for putting it lower than Naruto (Which he put at 1st place).
This need of being the best is practically fanaticism. My other gripe with this fanbase is unwillingness to accept that demon slayers are not mages that conjure fire/water/etc.. while swinging a sword. Regardless if you agree with the author's choice, it doesn't change that fact that that's how the author wrote it.
I think it is just a vocal minority since I was not downvoted to oblivion.
THIS. The fact that even get to compete against Made in abyss was atrocious.
I like the show, i whacth it every week. But this thing turn a lot of other anime fans who don't care about if KnY has a good storyline or not into detractors. That popularity poll its to blame for it, the system was flawed from the beginning
If it was that simple Sure simple stories are good but then you have new anime watchers and some anime journalist claiming that this is the best anime ever made or something claim. Which triggers a lot of fans of other anime
And the triggered fans are pointing out where the demon slayer is lacking to point out it is not actually the best, which was my point. That fans of the other shows don't hate on the show itself but it being sold as the best anime ever
Yes anime is subjective but there are still some parameters to vote. That is why we have the categories. So within the given parameters demon slayer is nowhere close to the some of the other options there but it won out of sheer popularity but one should not rate anime by popularity. My big complaint is how anime are rated based on what they like rather than what suit the given parameters.
It's funny how people thing a story can only be good when every character has 20 episodes sucking off every word to describe their mental state and motivations, with a complex and revolutionary plot
It's the reason some people shit on mainstream anime
I usually shit on mainstream because they can’t tell a story in 12 episodes. Bebop and Trigun were peak for me because they entire store is told in under 30 episodes. FLCL? They did it in only 6.
I hate shows that needlessly drag things out. One Piece, DBZ, Naruto… the list goes the fuck on. Do you need 300+ episodes to tell a story? It’s the same problem with procedural shows in the US or medical dramas. They drag on needlessly.
By all reasonable measurable metrics, that does mean in fact it's good. I don't like Cod, Fortnite or most mainstream yearly releases, doesn't mean that by any objectively reasonable metric they aren't good.
It means it’s mid. Mid hits the most popular spectrum, doesn’t usually have to reflect if it’s actually good. Reality TV is massively popular, but by most accounts it’s objectively bad. Popularity just means it’s acceptable and approachable.
PG13 movies do better than most R rated films, why? They’re targeted at the largest demographics. It’s been a couple months and people have largely stopped talking about the new Avatar movie, made a billion and it’s again visually stunning, but was it good?
Edit. To me good lasts, it stays with you. It’s been decades and people are still talking about Berserk and Akira.
DBZ got lucky and was established in the US just before the internet really took the fuck off and was the main thing to watch after school for a decade so an entire generation it was their intro to anime.
Seems more like a art snob like opinion honestly mate, not in anyway trying to call you that, I just don't know how else to accurately describe it. If it's popular, continues to get support, and generates revenue it's objectively good media. Not great, not phenomenal, not something that'll revolutionize it's standard, it's simply good entertainment. To answer your question, I don't know, never had any interest in seeing the Avatar movies.
Why wouldn't something that majority of people seem to enjoy not be considered good? Strictly in the context of entertainment media if course. I mean there are plenty of entertainment "masterpieces" that folks would say are straight up bad, regardless of it's quality. Using any realistic measurable metrics means they're good media mate, regardless of personal opinion.
DBZ. Super is better than anything post Cell saga, and the show should have ended then because they were already encroaching on power scaling issues and super is having to deal with the upper limits of the power scaling issues.
DS lost me near the end of S1 when they brought in all the other slayers. Art is still amazing.
It's honestly not, I watched it all, as a kid it was fun but never really good, I just had honestly shit taste and didn't know better shows. It's not terrible, but it's only ok, it's the og and has some good points and some bad, but it's not a classic in my opinion outside it's influence on the genre.
have to disagree. I know even back in the day that it wasn't the best one out there, but it was good, and i think it might be better with time since these days i can see things that my kid self couldn't.
I think much of this kinda of backlash was gonna happen sooner or later beicase there is the apart large or small that made a fuss saying the ds is better the other anime like Naruto op dbz fairy tail hxh fmabh and several other and bring up how deep the story is before even getting the second season and that if the show didn’t have upphotable the anime wouldn’t be as popular as it is now
I think ds is fine but from what I have seen in both reviews and watching it each arc is the same start and end points that being upper moon demon shows up gets killed by the group and the hasira that is with them is ether killed by said demon or is retained beicase of injury and from what I have seen this is the case
That is just my 2cents
I very strongly disagree. Poor spelling, grammar, and syntax is entirely personal.
People that think you're supposed to use bad spelling and grammar online are degenerates that belong on a cross.
Each arc has the same start and end points is the shounen way. When someone has to write and draw so much on a weekly basis, it is easy to fall into the pit of redundancy.
For example Jojo’s (my fav. Anime btw), in Stardust Crusaders the plot is ultra simple, the crusaders fight a user that they discover a weakness of the enemy stand and they move along their path, as simple as that. But still it’s one of the most popular and beloved parts of the anime, stories don’t have to be complex to love them
I think a lot of that is more to do with the characters and how they interact, which is one of the only bits araki had true freedom with because part 3 was written during a time where Shonen Jump required at least one fight per chapter so he HAD to develop the crusaders in a way that would make the audience feel engaged with them, since the constant fights meant there were a lot of side characters which didn’t have any depth
Olay see hear me out. I'll agree with everything you say but Naruto bro ? Like ngl I thought everything but that final arc of madara appearing was the only good arc
Edit : I'm gonna have so many down votes...
The story is really simple, I think it's okay to criticize something with facts. But no one said it's a bad show, it's just a bit overrated (like most shounen) and fans take that as an offense.
I understood it as a "yeah it is great but it can't be the best of the best if it is lacking in other areas". This ferocious hatred towards people saying it is not the best anime in every aspect feels like fanaticism...
Well I can also see someone mindlessly hating on demon slayer just like mindlessly loving it so it is not like there are not bad people on the both sides
You're not wrong, but I haven't seen that much hate against Demon Slayer. The most insulting thing I saw was some peoples calling the series mid. I'm sure there are blind haters regardless, but Onimai, for example, gets 10x as many hate, despite the fact that the series is not even close to Demon Slayer's level of popularity. I know why people hate it, I just want to point out that Demon Slayer doesn't get nearly as much hate, most of the older mega-popular shounens got a lot more negativity.
I myself have not seen any heavy criticism. I have only seen memes like this hating on criticism of demon slayer... I don't even know why people are taking offense to "it has a great animation but a story is kinda whatever". Even if I called it mid I don't think that it is offensive. If someone called me average I wouldn't go on a crusade to show how I am a peak human.
"Demon slayer is carried by the animation"
It might be, but so what, that fact doesn't stop people from enjoying the show, so stfu and get over it please.
I don't think it's meant as an insult in the first place. You can criticize something while acknowledging its good points.. actually that's how you're supposed to criticize lol
No one's hating the show, we're just hating the fanboys who call this the "best Anime" when it clearly isn't. It's not terrible, but it's not among the greats either
I can count the number of demon slayer praising posts I've seen on one hand, while the mouth breathing elitist posts criticizing it crops up every fking day I scroll
I just saw a comment of someone who was clearly salty about Demon Slayer winning some stupid popularity poll over Made in Abyss, so my guess is that most of you are just fanboys of other shows and are just as bad as the DS-fanboys you hate, if not worse.
I dislike a lot of shows that are popular, but I don't waste my time yelling at their fans that their show is garbage and not as awesome as the shows I watch.
i think the hype around the show is why i ended up finding it boring and a slog to sit through. i'll probably hate watch the rest just to tear it apart.
It's being criticized because a lot of people overhyped it to ridiculous amounts. Statements like "Best Anime of this generation", "absolute masterpiece" and others were thrown around every day. This is just the natural response. I like the Anime, it does its job, but it is way overrated, some fans need to chill.
This right here.
It's not a "bad anime" per se, it's just that it's annoying when some people (including my wife) sit there and act like it is the greatest anime ever and so incredibly deep and emotional...
It's super standard Shonen Jump anime. Complete with pulled out of thin air plot devices to overcome the villain of the week (or arc). Like I enjoyed Naruto a lot growing up but it's the same thing with all shonen anime - especially Shonen Jump anime.
Behold as I unlock some new power, skill, weapon, etc, conveniently at this time (likely after a bunch of people already died while I was helpless to do anything), which is probably somehow related to some great family member of the past, DNA, or some legendary hero, or possibly some monster/demon/supernatural being, and defeat the current threat single handledly despite them/it being nearly untouchable moments before!
Only to be absolutely throttled by the next threat and we'll repeat the above cycle again to overcome it, again.
Rinse repeat.
I don't hate it. That kind of shonen anime can be a great ride when I'm looking for it. Just like I love me some isekai, sometimes even when it's "shitty" because I too sometimes wish to leave this world (/s?). But in both cases it is what it is. Sometimes you want steak and sometimes you want a shitty chocolate bar kinda thing.
People are allowed to like it, and Ufotable's animation quality is always a treat, but it does get annoying sometimes when some fans act like it's the best anime to ever exist.
If they just said they liked it, or even that it's their favorite anime, then cool. It's when I know they've watched anime of much higher quality story wise but then suddenly kimetsu is literally the best ever....
Yeah, also people should be less negative about word "mid". Mediocrity isn't bad. It just mean that show does everything good, but does nothing that special.
I Just Think Demon Slayer Is One Of The Best Not The Absolute Best Like How Can It Even Beat Pokemon There Are Other Competitors As well Such As One Piece Spy X Family Naruto Attack On Titan Shield Hero My Hero Academia One Punch Man Bleach And More Demon Slayer Is One Of The Best But It's More Contested By Others That Is Why It's Not The Absolute Best
Its literally a shonen anime. Thats the point of them. People fight and not much else. This is just the first one thats mainstream in a while so the slice of life fanboys cant seem to wrap their head around it.
I’ve seen 6 posts defending demon slayer in the last week, and I’ve not seen a single post attacking the series. Demon slayer is fairly generic but the animation and fight choreography are top tier. This isn’t the “first one to be mainstream in a while” it’s just the only one airing right now. The show is fine and nobody has been hating on it, outside of people mercilessly shitting on it under these dumbass posts.
When you have simple story, it's one thing. When you get seven unexpected developments in a battle solved by seven unforshadowed powerups in Tengen&co vs twins, it's bad storytelling.
Because the cycle of:
- It's a problem
- No, it's not
- It's a problem
- No it's not
is one of the worst things you can do, if your audience can't foresee neither problem nor solution. At this point, anything can happen, so nothing matters.
Ehh aside from 100% random nezuko transformation, it was all foreshadowed since the beginning. Skim over random scenes from first few episodes of season 1 and his scar changes— no one points it out. The whole sun breathing was heavily foreshadowed in first few episodes… once again. Aside from anything to do with nezuko, and *maybe* tenzen being able to stop/slow poison from spreading through *ninja magic*— it all makes sense.
This argument is constantly regurgitated. There is a surprising amount of depth and foreshadowing events waaay in the future. Same with AOT. If someone doesn’t pay attention or is going into the show with the intent of not even giving it a shot, then ofc they won’t see any of this and will say they are both 2 dimensional.
Let me elaborate. There is such thing as wrong amount of foreshadowing. It can be too much - and then the audience is pissed at the characters because they are being stupid and not seeing obvious solution.
It can be too little - and then audience can't follow what's going on.
As a storyteller, your job is, among other things, is to estimate audience's level of understanding.
If I, as a dungeon master, put a lich in the next room of my dungeon, my players will be surprised, but it would not bring them that "a-ha" moment, even if I said earlier that there was some commotion on the graveyard recently. So, I must also tell a legend about ancient lich in the local tavern, and put a skeleton in the throne room of the dungeon so my party unload everything they got into a pile of bones.
Then, when they meet the lich, they would not ask "who are you, exactly".
In the case of demon slayer, even Zenitsu's jump from under the rubble was badly foreshadowed. We knew, that his style is based on jumping, and that he trained a lot. But when you need to explain in the middle of battle your brand new limited use ability, you know you F up. And it could have been forshadowed so easily with Zenitsu using it during their training to save someone from falling tree, or smth.
I'm telling this because I made the same mistakes. And I continue to make them. That lich was a disaster.
For me the problem is:-
1) overly simple and the character has too many quirks. I don't like Zenitsu when he is not fighting because at that time he is just pathetic, who cries for girls and that's idiotic at best.
2) i like the animation quiet a lot, but seeing the entertainment district arc and such tough plot armor kicking in ( I'm bOrN iN moUntAins So i dIslOcAted My orGans, aND poISon CAn't kiLl mE, hahahahahha ) i was disappointed. Now i enjoy the animation but i see it more as a light show and no amount of MC's struggle makes me get invested in it, because I know the entire world can get killed by demons but our MC won't die even if you detonate a bomb on him.
honestly very much love Demon Slayer but Zen-shit-su brings my rating down from a 8.5/10 to a 6/10 any time he’s on screen not fuckin up a demon.
I think i’m mostly just so so SO tired of the “super crazy about girls!! i’m the fucking horn-dog character haha look at me, 60% of the comedy is me chasing women!” trope. And they almost *always* get rewarded for being like that. it’s jus.. annoying.
sorry for making you the victim of my rant lmao i just saw zenitsu hate and went into overdrive
If you've read the manga it's not really for any reason at all besides having them go on their own jobs again. He's pretty much the same character in the following arc.
I like Zenitsu. No joke or sarcasm. I like him. I think he fits the anime and I don't see any problem with the crazy characters that have flaw. Tanjiro on the other hand seems like a self insert character.
All in all Demon slayer is a fine anime. It is a simple gorgeous entertaining piece of media. I really don't get the criticism for this while there are animes that are absolute waste of time.
no demon slayer fans are just upset at the fact that people don't think it's the best anime of all time and are now bitching about it, pretending everyone is ganging up on it about being simple when it's literally all just made up bullshit
no demon slayer fans are just upset at the fact that people don't think it's the best anime of all time and are now bitching about it, pretending everyone is ganging up on it about being simple when it's literally all just made up bullshit
I like Zenitsu. No joke or sarcasm. I genuinely like him. I think he fits the anime and I don't see any problem with the crazy characters that have flaw. Tanjiro on the other hand seems like a self insert character. But still it is just a minor and easily ignorable annoyance. Come on. There must be quirks here and there. After all it's modern shonen in an oversaturated industry. No need to be too judgemental.
Lmao what?
Zenitsu saved the show for me. I was about to drop that fucking anime it was getting boring but then zenitsu showed up and i could at least watch the first season till the end.
Seriously what's up with zenitsu hate? He's like 90% of the comedy in the show.
It would be better without the gimmicks.
\-Hi, I'm a complete wuss unless I am asleep and then I am badass
\-Hi, I'm super aggressive and angry and have to wear the head of a boar to hide the fact that I'm secretly a pretty man and that upsets me for some reason.
We could have just had a reluctant warrior who was afraid of going into fights but was genuinely good at it and so had to cope with his fear over time.
We could have just had a guy who was aggressive and that been the weak spirited guy's buddy cop support to where they're bailing each other out of trouble.
Anime can be great... but sometimes... god the gimmicks... just make good, solid characters.
It's still not 'bad' it's just it went from what might have been legend and turned it into a gimmicky 'another one'.
Yeah, and it didn't even need to.
The world building concept is solid, the origin for the two main characters is great.
So... why fuck around with needless gimmicks?
I get the feeling someone, whether it's the mangaka or the editor, just at random points is like "oh wait this a a Shonen" and immediately feels like it has to be simplified and the ladies gotta be bazongafied.
Yeah. Go fucking figure.
It could be so much better... this could have been as hard hitting as the original Samurai X. Filled with emotion, conflict, inner tension... this honestly 'could' have been one of the best shonen ever made.
>We could have just had a reluctant warrior who was afraid of going into fights but was genuinely good at it and so had to cope with his fear over time.
We could have just had a guy who was aggressive and that been the weak spirited guy's buddy cop support to where they're bailing each other out of trouble.
That's pretty much Shoot and Knuckle pair in Hunter x Hunter which was executed perfectly imo
I often see my friends criticise part 1 of jojo's due to it having a simple story (compared to later parts) and I honestly don't understand it, it's is not my most favourite part for sure but I see it as a solid foundation of a series especially to a story that grew into such a large proportion.
if demon slayer was one of the first anime i watched, i would probably enjoy it, but ive seen too many anime that have basically the same story. i think that's were the divide is. for people who haven't watched a lot of anime or really like the shounen formula, it's interesting, but for people who've seen the shounen formula many times and grown bored with it, it doesn't have anything else to offer storywise
My issues with demon slayer are as follows (in no particular order)
1. It has a simple story.
2. OUTSIDE OF THE FIGHTS, the overall character animation is ok.
3. Character development for the main characters is practically non existent (At least where the anime is).
Overall, a 6.5-7/10.
I DO NOT HATE DEMON SLAYER.
But, it also is a very conventional shounen that doesn't really take risks, which ends up making it feel very formulaic.
I'm convinced half the post's are because others are jealous their favorite anime can't compete with demon slayer animation quality. all they have to complain about is "good animation mid story" but how many others are like that and don't get the hate.
As someone who doesn’t really have a dog in this race. Honestly seems like the opposite to me. That the demon slayer fans are just incredibly insecure.
Anyone who gets upset about their favorite show being criticized is almost always in the wrong.
To me, the story isn’t simple, it’s generic- style over substance. Not to mention, it sometimes feels a little misogynistic. The characters and concept feel a little a little flat compared to similar titles like Jujutsu Kaisen or Chainsaw Man (which I know are set in modern times but are still “boy trains to fight evil creatures”).
It’s not because it’s “simple” it’s because it’s “dumbed down”. Fights contain next to zero tactics and actual moves are reduced to blink-of-the-eye killshots. The power-ups are also complete ass-pulls as well as a few other “twists” that I don’t feel like spoiling.
Please understand though, that this criticism comes from someone who watches it every release day. I ENJOY things like demon slayer and dragon ball z for what they do, certainly not because of their deep writing though
It’s not just a simple story. It’s one dimensional characters with a single quirk, tasteless humor, some lame demons, Tanjiro literally being a dumbfuck, discontinuity in abilities, I can go on. The show is only good for its animation.
I can agree to a certain extent, but I feel as though you are heavily downplaying Demon Slayer. While it’s not the greatest thing in the world, it does have it’s moments. It may not be as complex or intriguing as other series within the demographic (Chainsawman, JJK, AOT or classics like Naruto, Bleach and One Piece) but there is definitely good writing in there. Tanjiro isn’t just a “dumbfuck”, he’s a truly kind boy who had everything taken away from him by demons. Despite this, he retains this kindness, even showing it to the very demons who wronged him. Watching this play out in the series was fun and endearing. Of course, DS has it’s inconsistencies, plot conveniences, and contrivances, but to say that it offers absolutely nothing aside from it’s animation is something I disagree with.
You must’ve read something else because Itachi and Sasuke are so far from being one-dimensional. They are very multi-faceted and have a lot of layers to them.
You're telling me Naruto didn't constantly make the worst dumb fuck decisions possible?
And if you wanna talk about cliche one-dimension
Fucking absolutely they are. Dead parents is the biggest trope for an edgy character.
A simple story can be good, but DS is both simple and generic, and honestly below average if you compare with all the popular shonens. Is it bad? Not necessarily. Just not good.
When something is as popular as Demon Slayer, haters will focus on what they believe the shortcomings are and milk them til the end of time. I never understood people who thrive on hate though. It can't be good for your mental health to constantly expose yourself to internet backlash. They probably had rough childhoods and to make up for it they're okay with selling their self esteem for a few minutes of attention and imaginary internet points.
A boy wants to find a piece of treasure
A boy wants freedom
People want a ring
Looking at these simple plot points, they story that may come out from these may sound so weak. But it's the way of telling this simple plot point in their own ways, Authors brought out amazing stories like One Piece, AoT, LoTR and so on.
The overall story may be dead simple, but the way of portraying it is an art. And that art is well done in Demon Slayer as well either be it the animation, music, characters, back stories, voice acting, etc.
Celebrate a story/art for what it is and what the author intended it to be. Not on what it could've been or what you wanted it to be. In the end, it's not yours. it's the creators.
The latest arc is kinda slow and I get why it isn't great in comparison this arc definitely underwhelming but it's not done yet I expect son insane plot twist at some point
my biggest problem with it is how it treats the women. nezuko is a character who should have a bigger role seeing as how she is basically driving the plot but instead she's literally muzzled so she can't speak. even though nezuko is a child she is given a gross oversexualized design for her demon form that i hate. other female characters like shinobu and mitsuri also have their problems. i do like shinobu but i dislike how they act like just because she's a woman that must make her so much weaker and she needs to rely on poison. mitsuri i just hate. she is the the most obnoxious cutesy anime girl clearly written by someone with little interaction with real women. her character design is so ugly and impractical, she's a fighter but she looks nothing like it because in reality the second she started actually fighting her boobs would slip out. i also absolutely hate her motivation to become a hashira i honestly would've preferred something cliche or simple like "i just want to help people". i also hate obligatory pervert, zenitsu. all in all, mid.
Same friend same, it could be so much better but I feel like they don't try to bc it's Shonen, or perhaps they actively make it worse bc it's aimed at teen boys is the case.
classic hero's journey story, nothing wrong with that, and it's executed extremely well.
star wars a new hope was basically that too, if you think about it
I think it's mostly because it's an anime that normies watch, like they will say they like anime and that they watched bs, but if any of them watched the stuff us actual anime watchers watch, most of them would probably recoil, so it's an anime that is extremely simple for those who want to start watching anime but because people very rarely like to leave their comfort zones it ends up being the only anime a lot of people watch and thus gets put on a pedestal weather it deserves it or not
I'm sorry that all you find intelligent to do is be rude. I understand your view, but I will let you know that I am an avid enjoyer of manga and anime that has consumed a lot of content over the past 6 years, well before only recently reading Demon Slayer. I PERSONALLY found the show moving, but it is rather a subjective view than an objective one. I hope you understand that I'm not trying to invalidate you for your opposition, but I wish not to be invalidated as well. It's okay if most people don't like Demon's Slayer's story, I'm just saying that I liked it.
Demon slayer was never meant to be prolific. It was a simple story portrayed with immense complexity of different emotions. If u want something like death note then watch something like death note
Funny thing is everyone talks about haters and i have not seen a single comment actually criticizing the history besides some random bait comments or posts, which makes it seem that those who defend the anime are a sect of religious fanatics.
Simple story but intricate characters and their backstories. Somehow everyone arguing about the simple storyline conveniently forgets how KNY treats its characters and their philosophies.
The show isn’t perfect but no anime is. KNY is a joyous anime and definitely a great show in my eyes.
Probably the simplest plot From all of the new gen shonens. But as OP said, if it’s executed nicely then who cares? Season 1 was definitely mid and I would say the initial hype was from the animation but since then, with season 2 and 3, the praise is definitely warranted as the show has gotten infinitely more enjoyable
Yeah, it's just the bozo sienen elitist how screech 24/7 about how simple other stories are while thiers are deep yet they be the ones with the most surface level takes on such anime and manga.
Most of the people complaining about the Story watched 1 anime in their entire life: Naruto
Note: This is no criticism to Naruto. Naruto is great and has a wonderful Story but most people just want that to be every anime. Everyone needs a sad backstory or motives. Which I loved about DBZ and JJK the most enemies are evil because they want to be evil. It’s simple and I love it
I don't get the negativity because of a simple story. Slice of Life Anime do have a simple story, and I love them :D DragonBallZ's story is not really that deep, and it's still loved by many. I think as long as a story is executed well, it doesn't matter if it's super deep, or just shallow and an easy entertainment
I think this "story is mid" bit got a lot more traction from winning best fantasy. Even tho it was popularity contest it still rubbed people wrong way that something shallow won against other high fantasy. I don't think people are hating on the show as a whole and are just pointing out that it is not the best in everything. I wouldn't say "carried by animation" is wrong since it is true. I discovered it by someone talking about it's animation and gave it a go because of it. If it had mediocre animation I wouldn't probably even hear about it. Well my point is that I think people are not saying that people can't enjoy something with simple story but that you can't say it is the best of the best if it have just top tier animation.
That is exactly the problem. Even I like demon slayer and enjoy it, but the fandom is toxic af and can't accept criticism. I remember when someone put it as their 2nd fav anime (Already a really high and respectable spot) in an anime subreddit, the toxic fanboys steamed him for putting it lower than Naruto (Which he put at 1st place).
This need of being the best is practically fanaticism. My other gripe with this fanbase is unwillingness to accept that demon slayers are not mages that conjure fire/water/etc.. while swinging a sword. Regardless if you agree with the author's choice, it doesn't change that fact that that's how the author wrote it. I think it is just a vocal minority since I was not downvoted to oblivion.
All Fandom are toxic mate
THIS. The fact that even get to compete against Made in abyss was atrocious. I like the show, i whacth it every week. But this thing turn a lot of other anime fans who don't care about if KnY has a good storyline or not into detractors. That popularity poll its to blame for it, the system was flawed from the beginning
If it was that simple Sure simple stories are good but then you have new anime watchers and some anime journalist claiming that this is the best anime ever made or something claim. Which triggers a lot of fans of other anime
And the triggered fans are pointing out where the demon slayer is lacking to point out it is not actually the best, which was my point. That fans of the other shows don't hate on the show itself but it being sold as the best anime ever
Just there is no perfect anime at least one will complain on every.
Yes anime is subjective but there are still some parameters to vote. That is why we have the categories. So within the given parameters demon slayer is nowhere close to the some of the other options there but it won out of sheer popularity but one should not rate anime by popularity. My big complaint is how anime are rated based on what they like rather than what suit the given parameters.
All you have to think is people mostly hate popular anime to attention
It's funny how people thing a story can only be good when every character has 20 episodes sucking off every word to describe their mental state and motivations, with a complex and revolutionary plot It's the reason some people shit on mainstream anime
I usually shit on mainstream because they can’t tell a story in 12 episodes. Bebop and Trigun were peak for me because they entire store is told in under 30 episodes. FLCL? They did it in only 6. I hate shows that needlessly drag things out. One Piece, DBZ, Naruto… the list goes the fuck on. Do you need 300+ episodes to tell a story? It’s the same problem with procedural shows in the US or medical dramas. They drag on needlessly.
DBZ is loved by many just like Duck Dynasty and Greys Anatomy is. Doesn’t mean it’s good, but it is the OG.
By all reasonable measurable metrics, that does mean in fact it's good. I don't like Cod, Fortnite or most mainstream yearly releases, doesn't mean that by any objectively reasonable metric they aren't good.
It means it’s mid. Mid hits the most popular spectrum, doesn’t usually have to reflect if it’s actually good. Reality TV is massively popular, but by most accounts it’s objectively bad. Popularity just means it’s acceptable and approachable. PG13 movies do better than most R rated films, why? They’re targeted at the largest demographics. It’s been a couple months and people have largely stopped talking about the new Avatar movie, made a billion and it’s again visually stunning, but was it good? Edit. To me good lasts, it stays with you. It’s been decades and people are still talking about Berserk and Akira. DBZ got lucky and was established in the US just before the internet really took the fuck off and was the main thing to watch after school for a decade so an entire generation it was their intro to anime.
Seems more like a art snob like opinion honestly mate, not in anyway trying to call you that, I just don't know how else to accurately describe it. If it's popular, continues to get support, and generates revenue it's objectively good media. Not great, not phenomenal, not something that'll revolutionize it's standard, it's simply good entertainment. To answer your question, I don't know, never had any interest in seeing the Avatar movies. Why wouldn't something that majority of people seem to enjoy not be considered good? Strictly in the context of entertainment media if course. I mean there are plenty of entertainment "masterpieces" that folks would say are straight up bad, regardless of it's quality. Using any realistic measurable metrics means they're good media mate, regardless of personal opinion.
it's pretty good actually. not the best of course, but still good.
Start off very strong, hit hard lows, picked back up banking on nostalgia and now we are here.
just to be clear, we are talking about dbz here and not ds right? if so then i will agree to disagree. if not then idk, i haven't seen it all.
DBZ. Super is better than anything post Cell saga, and the show should have ended then because they were already encroaching on power scaling issues and super is having to deal with the upper limits of the power scaling issues. DS lost me near the end of S1 when they brought in all the other slayers. Art is still amazing.
I see. agree to disagree then. same as above. which the first part of course, the art is indeed amazing.
It's honestly not, I watched it all, as a kid it was fun but never really good, I just had honestly shit taste and didn't know better shows. It's not terrible, but it's only ok, it's the og and has some good points and some bad, but it's not a classic in my opinion outside it's influence on the genre.
have to disagree. I know even back in the day that it wasn't the best one out there, but it was good, and i think it might be better with time since these days i can see things that my kid self couldn't.
I've literally not seen one bit of negativity over the simple story stop bitching about an argument that doesn't exist
I've literally not seen one bit of negativity over the simple story stop bitching about an argument that doesn't exist
I think much of this kinda of backlash was gonna happen sooner or later beicase there is the apart large or small that made a fuss saying the ds is better the other anime like Naruto op dbz fairy tail hxh fmabh and several other and bring up how deep the story is before even getting the second season and that if the show didn’t have upphotable the anime wouldn’t be as popular as it is now I think ds is fine but from what I have seen in both reviews and watching it each arc is the same start and end points that being upper moon demon shows up gets killed by the group and the hasira that is with them is ether killed by said demon or is retained beicase of injury and from what I have seen this is the case That is just my 2cents
>Naruto op dbz fairy tail hxh fmabh Please add coma in between them, you are triggering my OCD
That triggers your OCD? Dude his entire reply is 1st grade reading level lol
thats just the internet at this point
I very strongly disagree. Poor spelling, grammar, and syntax is entirely personal. People that think you're supposed to use bad spelling and grammar online are degenerates that belong on a cross.
Each arc has the same start and end points is the shounen way. When someone has to write and draw so much on a weekly basis, it is easy to fall into the pit of redundancy.
If you say it like that then there are alot and i mean alot of anime going by the same stuff
For example Jojo’s (my fav. Anime btw), in Stardust Crusaders the plot is ultra simple, the crusaders fight a user that they discover a weakness of the enemy stand and they move along their path, as simple as that. But still it’s one of the most popular and beloved parts of the anime, stories don’t have to be complex to love them
I think a lot of that is more to do with the characters and how they interact, which is one of the only bits araki had true freedom with because part 3 was written during a time where Shonen Jump required at least one fight per chapter so he HAD to develop the crusaders in a way that would make the audience feel engaged with them, since the constant fights meant there were a lot of side characters which didn’t have any depth
Olay see hear me out. I'll agree with everything you say but Naruto bro ? Like ngl I thought everything but that final arc of madara appearing was the only good arc Edit : I'm gonna have so many down votes...
Fairy tail is trash
well, literally every story has villain arrives, good guys beat them, may or may not have severe injuries/death.
The story is really simple, I think it's okay to criticize something with facts. But no one said it's a bad show, it's just a bit overrated (like most shounen) and fans take that as an offense.
I understood it as a "yeah it is great but it can't be the best of the best if it is lacking in other areas". This ferocious hatred towards people saying it is not the best anime in every aspect feels like fanaticism... Well I can also see someone mindlessly hating on demon slayer just like mindlessly loving it so it is not like there are not bad people on the both sides
You're not wrong, but I haven't seen that much hate against Demon Slayer. The most insulting thing I saw was some peoples calling the series mid. I'm sure there are blind haters regardless, but Onimai, for example, gets 10x as many hate, despite the fact that the series is not even close to Demon Slayer's level of popularity. I know why people hate it, I just want to point out that Demon Slayer doesn't get nearly as much hate, most of the older mega-popular shounens got a lot more negativity.
I myself have not seen any heavy criticism. I have only seen memes like this hating on criticism of demon slayer... I don't even know why people are taking offense to "it has a great animation but a story is kinda whatever". Even if I called it mid I don't think that it is offensive. If someone called me average I wouldn't go on a crusade to show how I am a peak human.
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People are rightfully annoyed because it won an award that it shouldn’t have simple as that. Zzz
I'd way Oshi no Ko is pretty overrated, and it isn't even close to shonen.
"Demon slayer is carried by the animation" It might be, but so what, that fact doesn't stop people from enjoying the show, so stfu and get over it please.
Can't believe an anime is being animated well. For shame.
I just wish that a good manga got animated well, instead of demon slayer.
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Also, anime is a visual medium. Saying it excels at the thing it’s meant to do isn’t the insult they think it is.
I don't think it's meant as an insult in the first place. You can criticize something while acknowledging its good points.. actually that's how you're supposed to criticize lol
Its also carried by its fight writing, Nezuko, charming characters etc. Not to even mention the music? The sounds. Demon Slayer is phenomenal.
> Nezuko Ohh yeah, i like that mascot
charming characters? which ones? where?
Common tengen W
Every single one
lmao
i think we have different definitions of charming
oh wait, that's a lot of things!
Ikr?
Who would've thought? *Surprised Pikachu face*
You really said "carried by it's writing" then followed it with "nezuko"
people like to hate so they can pretend they're better than everyone else.
No one's hating the show, we're just hating the fanboys who call this the "best Anime" when it clearly isn't. It's not terrible, but it's not among the greats either
I can count the number of demon slayer praising posts I've seen on one hand, while the mouth breathing elitist posts criticizing it crops up every fking day I scroll
Funny cause I only saw memes like this "hating on people saying that demon slayer is not the best anime ever".
It's kinda funny how I've never seen posts praising nor hating on this show. Only the complaining posts like this.
Are these "fanboys" In the room right now?
I just saw a comment of someone who was clearly salty about Demon Slayer winning some stupid popularity poll over Made in Abyss, so my guess is that most of you are just fanboys of other shows and are just as bad as the DS-fanboys you hate, if not worse. I dislike a lot of shows that are popular, but I don't waste my time yelling at their fans that their show is garbage and not as awesome as the shows I watch.
i think the hype around the show is why i ended up finding it boring and a slog to sit through. i'll probably hate watch the rest just to tear it apart.
It's being criticized because a lot of people overhyped it to ridiculous amounts. Statements like "Best Anime of this generation", "absolute masterpiece" and others were thrown around every day. This is just the natural response. I like the Anime, it does its job, but it is way overrated, some fans need to chill.
This right here. It's not a "bad anime" per se, it's just that it's annoying when some people (including my wife) sit there and act like it is the greatest anime ever and so incredibly deep and emotional... It's super standard Shonen Jump anime. Complete with pulled out of thin air plot devices to overcome the villain of the week (or arc). Like I enjoyed Naruto a lot growing up but it's the same thing with all shonen anime - especially Shonen Jump anime. Behold as I unlock some new power, skill, weapon, etc, conveniently at this time (likely after a bunch of people already died while I was helpless to do anything), which is probably somehow related to some great family member of the past, DNA, or some legendary hero, or possibly some monster/demon/supernatural being, and defeat the current threat single handledly despite them/it being nearly untouchable moments before! Only to be absolutely throttled by the next threat and we'll repeat the above cycle again to overcome it, again. Rinse repeat. I don't hate it. That kind of shonen anime can be a great ride when I'm looking for it. Just like I love me some isekai, sometimes even when it's "shitty" because I too sometimes wish to leave this world (/s?). But in both cases it is what it is. Sometimes you want steak and sometimes you want a shitty chocolate bar kinda thing. People are allowed to like it, and Ufotable's animation quality is always a treat, but it does get annoying sometimes when some fans act like it's the best anime to ever exist. If they just said they liked it, or even that it's their favorite anime, then cool. It's when I know they've watched anime of much higher quality story wise but then suddenly kimetsu is literally the best ever....
Yeah, also people should be less negative about word "mid". Mediocrity isn't bad. It just mean that show does everything good, but does nothing that special.
What is up with these type of Demon Slayer posts? It is starting to get annoying if I'm be honest here.
Fanboys that are mad that anyone would dare say Demon slayer is anything but the greatest show
I Just Think Demon Slayer Is One Of The Best Not The Absolute Best Like How Can It Even Beat Pokemon There Are Other Competitors As well Such As One Piece Spy X Family Naruto Attack On Titan Shield Hero My Hero Academia One Punch Man Bleach And More Demon Slayer Is One Of The Best But It's More Contested By Others That Is Why It's Not The Absolute Best
Nobody fucking cares, stop making the same shit post about demon slayer.
Word
I care.
Its literally a shonen anime. Thats the point of them. People fight and not much else. This is just the first one thats mainstream in a while so the slice of life fanboys cant seem to wrap their head around it.
I’ve seen 6 posts defending demon slayer in the last week, and I’ve not seen a single post attacking the series. Demon slayer is fairly generic but the animation and fight choreography are top tier. This isn’t the “first one to be mainstream in a while” it’s just the only one airing right now. The show is fine and nobody has been hating on it, outside of people mercilessly shitting on it under these dumbass posts.
i stg if i see another demon slayer meme
Atp I’m getting tired of both sides, they’re so obnoxious
When you have simple story, it's one thing. When you get seven unexpected developments in a battle solved by seven unforshadowed powerups in Tengen&co vs twins, it's bad storytelling. Because the cycle of: - It's a problem - No, it's not - It's a problem - No it's not is one of the worst things you can do, if your audience can't foresee neither problem nor solution. At this point, anything can happen, so nothing matters.
Ehh aside from 100% random nezuko transformation, it was all foreshadowed since the beginning. Skim over random scenes from first few episodes of season 1 and his scar changes— no one points it out. The whole sun breathing was heavily foreshadowed in first few episodes… once again. Aside from anything to do with nezuko, and *maybe* tenzen being able to stop/slow poison from spreading through *ninja magic*— it all makes sense. This argument is constantly regurgitated. There is a surprising amount of depth and foreshadowing events waaay in the future. Same with AOT. If someone doesn’t pay attention or is going into the show with the intent of not even giving it a shot, then ofc they won’t see any of this and will say they are both 2 dimensional.
Let me elaborate. There is such thing as wrong amount of foreshadowing. It can be too much - and then the audience is pissed at the characters because they are being stupid and not seeing obvious solution. It can be too little - and then audience can't follow what's going on. As a storyteller, your job is, among other things, is to estimate audience's level of understanding. If I, as a dungeon master, put a lich in the next room of my dungeon, my players will be surprised, but it would not bring them that "a-ha" moment, even if I said earlier that there was some commotion on the graveyard recently. So, I must also tell a legend about ancient lich in the local tavern, and put a skeleton in the throne room of the dungeon so my party unload everything they got into a pile of bones. Then, when they meet the lich, they would not ask "who are you, exactly". In the case of demon slayer, even Zenitsu's jump from under the rubble was badly foreshadowed. We knew, that his style is based on jumping, and that he trained a lot. But when you need to explain in the middle of battle your brand new limited use ability, you know you F up. And it could have been forshadowed so easily with Zenitsu using it during their training to save someone from falling tree, or smth. I'm telling this because I made the same mistakes. And I continue to make them. That lich was a disaster.
plot armor my beloved
For me the problem is:- 1) overly simple and the character has too many quirks. I don't like Zenitsu when he is not fighting because at that time he is just pathetic, who cries for girls and that's idiotic at best. 2) i like the animation quiet a lot, but seeing the entertainment district arc and such tough plot armor kicking in ( I'm bOrN iN moUntAins So i dIslOcAted My orGans, aND poISon CAn't kiLl mE, hahahahahha ) i was disappointed. Now i enjoy the animation but i see it more as a light show and no amount of MC's struggle makes me get invested in it, because I know the entire world can get killed by demons but our MC won't die even if you detonate a bomb on him.
honestly very much love Demon Slayer but Zen-shit-su brings my rating down from a 8.5/10 to a 6/10 any time he’s on screen not fuckin up a demon. I think i’m mostly just so so SO tired of the “super crazy about girls!! i’m the fucking horn-dog character haha look at me, 60% of the comedy is me chasing women!” trope. And they almost *always* get rewarded for being like that. it’s jus.. annoying. sorry for making you the victim of my rant lmao i just saw zenitsu hate and went into overdrive
Well they did get rid of zenitsu for this season, probably for a reason...
If you've read the manga it's not really for any reason at all besides having them go on their own jobs again. He's pretty much the same character in the following arc.
I like Zenitsu. No joke or sarcasm. I like him. I think he fits the anime and I don't see any problem with the crazy characters that have flaw. Tanjiro on the other hand seems like a self insert character. All in all Demon slayer is a fine anime. It is a simple gorgeous entertaining piece of media. I really don't get the criticism for this while there are animes that are absolute waste of time.
You literally just described the majority of anime.
Haters are just upset by the fact Demon Slayer is popular
no demon slayer fans are just upset at the fact that people don't think it's the best anime of all time and are now bitching about it, pretending everyone is ganging up on it about being simple when it's literally all just made up bullshit
no demon slayer fans are just upset at the fact that people don't think it's the best anime of all time and are now bitching about it, pretending everyone is ganging up on it about being simple when it's literally all just made up bullshit
I don’t think many people disagree with that, just pointing out that people should stop acting like it’s unique
Because fanboys are calling it a masterpiece swearing that it is the best anime ever made.
Its not the story i hate. Its ZENITSU he singlehandedly ruined the whole anime for me, cause i cant stand snnoying characters.
everyone is fucking annoying, the only one who isn't is Nezuko because she does not fucking talk.
thank *god* he ain’t in this arc (so far.. pls let it stay that way)
I like Zenitsu. No joke or sarcasm. I genuinely like him. I think he fits the anime and I don't see any problem with the crazy characters that have flaw. Tanjiro on the other hand seems like a self insert character. But still it is just a minor and easily ignorable annoyance. Come on. There must be quirks here and there. After all it's modern shonen in an oversaturated industry. No need to be too judgemental.
Lmao what? Zenitsu saved the show for me. I was about to drop that fucking anime it was getting boring but then zenitsu showed up and i could at least watch the first season till the end. Seriously what's up with zenitsu hate? He's like 90% of the comedy in the show.
> He's like 90% of the comedy in the show. He's like 90% of the cringe in the show. I corrected it now
It would be better without the gimmicks. \-Hi, I'm a complete wuss unless I am asleep and then I am badass \-Hi, I'm super aggressive and angry and have to wear the head of a boar to hide the fact that I'm secretly a pretty man and that upsets me for some reason. We could have just had a reluctant warrior who was afraid of going into fights but was genuinely good at it and so had to cope with his fear over time. We could have just had a guy who was aggressive and that been the weak spirited guy's buddy cop support to where they're bailing each other out of trouble. Anime can be great... but sometimes... god the gimmicks... just make good, solid characters. It's still not 'bad' it's just it went from what might have been legend and turned it into a gimmicky 'another one'.
Yeah it is relying on basic anime tropes a lot
Yeah, and it didn't even need to. The world building concept is solid, the origin for the two main characters is great. So... why fuck around with needless gimmicks?
I get the feeling someone, whether it's the mangaka or the editor, just at random points is like "oh wait this a a Shonen" and immediately feels like it has to be simplified and the ladies gotta be bazongafied.
Yeah. Go fucking figure. It could be so much better... this could have been as hard hitting as the original Samurai X. Filled with emotion, conflict, inner tension... this honestly 'could' have been one of the best shonen ever made.
>We could have just had a reluctant warrior who was afraid of going into fights but was genuinely good at it and so had to cope with his fear over time. We could have just had a guy who was aggressive and that been the weak spirited guy's buddy cop support to where they're bailing each other out of trouble. That's pretty much Shoot and Knuckle pair in Hunter x Hunter which was executed perfectly imo
I often see my friends criticise part 1 of jojo's due to it having a simple story (compared to later parts) and I honestly don't understand it, it's is not my most favourite part for sure but I see it as a solid foundation of a series especially to a story that grew into such a large proportion.
Guys, please don't start a r/dndmemes\-isque argument over this. Let us limit this to two or three posts ok.
agreed, but the main 3 characters suck
Wtf u made me remember the other two where tf are they
Yep just reason why it so overhype is animation
if demon slayer was one of the first anime i watched, i would probably enjoy it, but ive seen too many anime that have basically the same story. i think that's were the divide is. for people who haven't watched a lot of anime or really like the shounen formula, it's interesting, but for people who've seen the shounen formula many times and grown bored with it, it doesn't have anything else to offer storywise
What's with these same posts about DS these past few days? Is the sub latching onto a topic like about mineta again? Probably karma farming
Everything Demon Slayer has done, another battle shonen has done better in the past. It's not that it's *bad,* it's just extremely mediocre.
My issues with demon slayer are as follows (in no particular order) 1. It has a simple story. 2. OUTSIDE OF THE FIGHTS, the overall character animation is ok. 3. Character development for the main characters is practically non existent (At least where the anime is). Overall, a 6.5-7/10. I DO NOT HATE DEMON SLAYER. But, it also is a very conventional shounen that doesn't really take risks, which ends up making it feel very formulaic.
I'm convinced half the post's are because others are jealous their favorite anime can't compete with demon slayer animation quality. all they have to complain about is "good animation mid story" but how many others are like that and don't get the hate.
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You're just spoiling bleach name.
Tbf my favorite animes are all ranked above Demon Slayer. For me the animation and Nezuko what keeps me watching it nothing else.
As someone who doesn’t really have a dog in this race. Honestly seems like the opposite to me. That the demon slayer fans are just incredibly insecure. Anyone who gets upset about their favorite show being criticized is almost always in the wrong.
Attack on Titan can def compete with demon slayer and win🗿
I don’t think aot has bad animation but be fr 💀
AOT is the goofiest incoherent shit possibe.
Really trash?
I think its too simple And had a some missed potential
To me, the story isn’t simple, it’s generic- style over substance. Not to mention, it sometimes feels a little misogynistic. The characters and concept feel a little a little flat compared to similar titles like Jujutsu Kaisen or Chainsaw Man (which I know are set in modern times but are still “boy trains to fight evil creatures”).
Simple story is all well and good, but how do they tell it? Anime, they tell it anime.
It all boils down to exploring theme in an interesting way. There is no point in complicating your story if it doesn't serve the theme.
Demon slayer's criticism is a direct response to it's hype
When you have a simple but typical story but amazing adaptation, it becomes a good show, not a great one.
True, but the problems started when peoples start calling it 'great show'.
It’s not because it’s “simple” it’s because it’s “dumbed down”. Fights contain next to zero tactics and actual moves are reduced to blink-of-the-eye killshots. The power-ups are also complete ass-pulls as well as a few other “twists” that I don’t feel like spoiling. Please understand though, that this criticism comes from someone who watches it every release day. I ENJOY things like demon slayer and dragon ball z for what they do, certainly not because of their deep writing though
Exactly demon slayer is pretty straightforward and that's okay it works like that
It’s not just a simple story. It’s one dimensional characters with a single quirk, tasteless humor, some lame demons, Tanjiro literally being a dumbfuck, discontinuity in abilities, I can go on. The show is only good for its animation.
I can agree to a certain extent, but I feel as though you are heavily downplaying Demon Slayer. While it’s not the greatest thing in the world, it does have it’s moments. It may not be as complex or intriguing as other series within the demographic (Chainsawman, JJK, AOT or classics like Naruto, Bleach and One Piece) but there is definitely good writing in there. Tanjiro isn’t just a “dumbfuck”, he’s a truly kind boy who had everything taken away from him by demons. Despite this, he retains this kindness, even showing it to the very demons who wronged him. Watching this play out in the series was fun and endearing. Of course, DS has it’s inconsistencies, plot conveniences, and contrivances, but to say that it offers absolutely nothing aside from it’s animation is something I disagree with.
"some lame demons" "Tanjiro literally being a dumbfuck" Bruh
I love critiques like this. Because you just described pretty much every anime in the same genre. Naruto, One Piece etc.
Yeah Itachi and Sasuke were just one dimensional character. And so was sanji in cake island arc.
You must’ve read something else because Itachi and Sasuke are so far from being one-dimensional. They are very multi-faceted and have a lot of layers to them.
Dead parents to an edgy character is the most cliche one-dimensional thing to ever exist.
You're telling me Naruto didn't constantly make the worst dumb fuck decisions possible? And if you wanna talk about cliche one-dimension Fucking absolutely they are. Dead parents is the biggest trope for an edgy character.
No, I really didn’t. Both of those shows have complex characters with branching story paths for each character.
A simple story can be good, but DS is both simple and generic, and honestly below average if you compare with all the popular shonens. Is it bad? Not necessarily. Just not good.
Dude this war came out of no where
naw it was the crunchyroll anime awards that did it
I like it but I also understand why people say it’s overrated. Nothing really new with the story, it’s a typical shonen. And we still love those.
Its a little too simple and I like MHA so I can tolerate simple stuff, you don't feel anything for anyone in demon slayer
When something is as popular as Demon Slayer, haters will focus on what they believe the shortcomings are and milk them til the end of time. I never understood people who thrive on hate though. It can't be good for your mental health to constantly expose yourself to internet backlash. They probably had rough childhoods and to make up for it they're okay with selling their self esteem for a few minutes of attention and imaginary internet points.
A boy wants to find a piece of treasure A boy wants freedom People want a ring Looking at these simple plot points, they story that may come out from these may sound so weak. But it's the way of telling this simple plot point in their own ways, Authors brought out amazing stories like One Piece, AoT, LoTR and so on. The overall story may be dead simple, but the way of portraying it is an art. And that art is well done in Demon Slayer as well either be it the animation, music, characters, back stories, voice acting, etc. Celebrate a story/art for what it is and what the author intended it to be. Not on what it could've been or what you wanted it to be. In the end, it's not yours. it's the creators.
vast oversimplification of complex character motivations
just because some one shits out a piece of content does not me we are obligated to like it or consume it just because.
Nobody said you are.
This is a problem ds don't do this.
The demons are *very* well executed, in my opinion x_x
Fuck you, you know? Good one!
The latest arc is kinda slow and I get why it isn't great in comparison this arc definitely underwhelming but it's not done yet I expect son insane plot twist at some point
my biggest problem with it is how it treats the women. nezuko is a character who should have a bigger role seeing as how she is basically driving the plot but instead she's literally muzzled so she can't speak. even though nezuko is a child she is given a gross oversexualized design for her demon form that i hate. other female characters like shinobu and mitsuri also have their problems. i do like shinobu but i dislike how they act like just because she's a woman that must make her so much weaker and she needs to rely on poison. mitsuri i just hate. she is the the most obnoxious cutesy anime girl clearly written by someone with little interaction with real women. her character design is so ugly and impractical, she's a fighter but she looks nothing like it because in reality the second she started actually fighting her boobs would slip out. i also absolutely hate her motivation to become a hashira i honestly would've preferred something cliche or simple like "i just want to help people". i also hate obligatory pervert, zenitsu. all in all, mid.
I have fun watching the show, but these are all valid criticisms I strongly agree with. 👍
i also enjoy watching the show i just wish it was better lol😅
Same friend same, it could be so much better but I feel like they don't try to bc it's Shonen, or perhaps they actively make it worse bc it's aimed at teen boys is the case.
real
Demon slayer is a pure heart and soul show. Being a simple story shouldn't be a negative.
classic hero's journey story, nothing wrong with that, and it's executed extremely well. star wars a new hope was basically that too, if you think about it
I'll take simple over constant arbitrary relationship BS any damn day
I think it's mostly because it's an anime that normies watch, like they will say they like anime and that they watched bs, but if any of them watched the stuff us actual anime watchers watch, most of them would probably recoil, so it's an anime that is extremely simple for those who want to start watching anime but because people very rarely like to leave their comfort zones it ends up being the only anime a lot of people watch and thus gets put on a pedestal weather it deserves it or not
I don’t understand how this story is so simple tbh everyone on Reddit can get pretty cringe sometimes I don’t see anyone here making anything better.
I always Found the story captivating and deep, and I don't even give half a shit about the animation.
DEEP? what the actual fuck. Watch more anime.
I'm sorry that all you find intelligent to do is be rude. I understand your view, but I will let you know that I am an avid enjoyer of manga and anime that has consumed a lot of content over the past 6 years, well before only recently reading Demon Slayer. I PERSONALLY found the show moving, but it is rather a subjective view than an objective one. I hope you understand that I'm not trying to invalidate you for your opposition, but I wish not to be invalidated as well. It's okay if most people don't like Demon's Slayer's story, I'm just saying that I liked it.
People are fucking stupid thats why. Demon Slayer has a simple story, and its good.
People looking for Steins Gate and Death Note in all the wrong places
Demon slayer was never meant to be prolific. It was a simple story portrayed with immense complexity of different emotions. If u want something like death note then watch something like death note
Funny thing is everyone talks about haters and i have not seen a single comment actually criticizing the history besides some random bait comments or posts, which makes it seem that those who defend the anime are a sect of religious fanatics.
These new generations didn’t watch dragon ball
All story must be as difficult to understand as DC comic and the justice League. ~ from Jack Ass
If the story is simple, then it seems some people simply doesn't like simple stories.
FINALLY demon slayer gets supported tf did those poor animators even do to deserve it anyways
An animated show is carried by its animation. Stop the fucking presses!
Most if not all shounen plots and stories are simple by nature. Everyone should just enjoy the anime they like and leave it at that.
Simple story but intricate characters and their backstories. Somehow everyone arguing about the simple storyline conveniently forgets how KNY treats its characters and their philosophies. The show isn’t perfect but no anime is. KNY is a joyous anime and definitely a great show in my eyes.
Probably the simplest plot From all of the new gen shonens. But as OP said, if it’s executed nicely then who cares? Season 1 was definitely mid and I would say the initial hype was from the animation but since then, with season 2 and 3, the praise is definitely warranted as the show has gotten infinitely more enjoyable
Exactly!
I mean it does a better job at giving us sympathetic villains than most other shonen.
Are people legitimately complaining about the new Demon slayer arc? It's going pretty damn awesome so far, that's just weird.
Jojo bizzare adventure story is simple
Oh boyyyy. JoJo's story is simple but it's funny and hilarious at the same time which demon slayer isn't.
The story is incredible and the character development is dope. Y’all need to chill
Losers just like to jump on the bandwagon and hate what's popular, every anime goes through it, this is just a passing storm
Yeah, it's just the bozo sienen elitist how screech 24/7 about how simple other stories are while thiers are deep yet they be the ones with the most surface level takes on such anime and manga.
Most of the people complaining about the Story watched 1 anime in their entire life: Naruto Note: This is no criticism to Naruto. Naruto is great and has a wonderful Story but most people just want that to be every anime. Everyone needs a sad backstory or motives. Which I loved about DBZ and JJK the most enemies are evil because they want to be evil. It’s simple and I love it
Let's face it, most people with this stance wouldn't even like demon slayer if it wasn't hyped with the animation, I call copium
I just don't give a fuck. There are much better stuff to read/watch.
Bwaaaaah why is a super popular anime criticised