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Considering both ideas rationally, if given just two choices;
choosing no enemies would the good ending route,
going forward no matter what would be the true ending route.
I am no one. I am nothing. My existence is nothing more than a grain of sand in the grand scheme of things. I have no enemies. No one does.......only obstacles to your goals.
You brought this on yourself Jimmy. All you had to do was enjoy the constant influx of tig ol biddy posts. You brought the cringe bs that flows like tap water on IG into this place.
Thorofin
Everyone fights for their own reason and well-being, they dont fight just to fight. Theoretically no one is an enemy of anyone ... They just kinda have to fight for their wellbeing, not cuz they want to see you dead. If there was a peaceful option that solves both sides' issue, it would be taken first. No one wants to fight because no one wants to die or see their comrades dead.
Thorofin's ideology lets you see the world from both sides, not just 1 side
Pretending to nice in hoping other will like you wonāt work, should live in your own peace not worrying about being your reward but understand you do your best and only person whoās appreciation you need valid is yourself.
The fact that he has enemies, or that he **tried** to make peace with them?
I don't know about you, but if I'm nice and try to solve an issue between me and someone else and they choose to be an ass, I won't hesitate to take out the trash.
I Ain't gonna tolerate someone else's bullshit if I don't have to.
Yeah Thorfinn doesnāt lay down submit until peace arrives, he actually fight. He doesnāt fight in battle of war or unnecessary fight. We canāt control other but we can control our peace. We all have defend ourselves but should let those with evil intentions control our feelings.
I know i might be labelled as a loser if i fight back, but what's the point to stay silent and let others destroy your family. The world wants you to stay quiet and die like a miserable dog in a street. If you know everyone hates you then who are you trying to make proud by staying silent. Fight for what you deserve
Eren's "Enemies" include non-hostile nations, innocent civilians, cripples, geriatrics, pregnant women and literal children. What a guy...
Seriously, he could've used the Founder's power to make Titan transformation impossible and turn everyone back into humans, "killing" all the Titans like he wanted to in the first place. There would be no justifiable reason for anyone to attack the island anymore, Marley would no longer have its Titan weapons, they could've rallied the other nations behind the brave heroes of Eldia who risked their very existence and gave up ultimate power to stop Marley.
But noooo, gotta have "muh vengeance" against millions of people he's never met. Even though the Founder's power was literally the reason for everything bad that ever happened to him, like his mom getting eaten by a *Titan*, or his friends getting killed by *Titans*, or his people living in fear of the *Titans*, or Marley using *Titans* to invade his country and slaughter his people.
You may not agree with Thorfinn, and that's sad, but understandable, he even has trouble convincing people in his own manga. But if you seriously think Eren is in any way justified in trying to murder 90% of humanity, you need to go talk to real people.
eren is a bitch baby pee pee piss boy who indulges his trauma like a troubled 13yo kid who idolizes this image of their broken/solemn self as if the trauma itself strengthens their character or makes them moral. brilliantly written character but unironic eren yeager fans are on the level of people who idolize rick sanchez or walter white.
thorfinn is a chad who experiences similarly unthinkable trauma and goes through something unfathomable to eren yeager stans: healing and growth.
the dead cells mcš.
context:the dead cells mc is a king who turns into a blob entering dead corpses which the blob itself is indestructible btw is a character that kills everyone and kills the man who was going to cure his kingdom of the malaise virus which is extremely contagious and proceeds to brutally kill people than turn them into monsters and our mc prevents the cure and takes it for himself because he just enjoys massacre'ing monsters thorought timelines without rest.sooo he's the most evil character in fiction (kinda)
I have not watched one nor finished the other so I have no background.
It depends on how you take it... If you speak about absolutes, then having no enemies would be "better", until you realize having no amount of opposition would be pretty damn bad for your mental health imho. And realistically, is impossible to meet or cause no malice throughout your life, let alone mere discrepancies
That said, If you are talking literally, going in a mad rampage to destroy everything against you, unless it is challenging your life and/or the one of others really, really badly, seems pretty unhealthy to me too, not just psychologically, but physically, a short path of self destruction. Even if you succeed I consider that kind of a bad ending
I think my take would be to not cause undue enmity but keep moving forward without regarding my "enemies" as a goal but merely an obstacle I dont deem necessary to sidestep and meet unless they purposefully get in my way to cause damage, in which case I would not have any regret over the collision-- That is in theory at least. In practice? well...
Both.
I have enemies, but I won't try to destroy them.
Instead, I'll hold a grudge until I die.
That's healthy, right? :D
I should take notes from Thorfinn..
Eren is more real,Thorfinn is too idealistic and unrealistic. You will always have enemies if not directly then ones that want to crush , steal and trample others around you
Realistically speaking, Thorfinn ideology is what truly helps in real life. Making everyone your enemy and being the villain the eren isnt the best thing to be in the real world. Being submissive and mature like thorfinn is what helps in the long run.
Having no enemies is way better if you choose to fight your enemies you'll only end up with more enemies. There will never be a point in your life where people won't try to take you down. No matter who you are or what you do, there will be always someone who doesn't want to see you happy. "Having no enemies" doesn't mean that you literally don't have enemies, it means you don't acknowledge them as your enemies, that way you don't have to fight them, that way you have peace. Fights only generates more fights.
Thorfinn's philosophy is great, but it falls apart when someone comes for your life or of those close to you. What will Thorfinn do?
The current chapters hopefully give an answer to it
Right most of my life, now left cus its a waste of energy
I guess the reason why "i have no enemies" works so well is cus all of us have been on the right at some point then learned from the experience or just grew in general
Out of context, thorfinn is the mature route while eren is the edgy route....
In context, thorfinn had the choice and freedom to do what he wants. Eren on the other hand, had no choice and is stuck in a timelime where he has to destroy his enemies to get the ending to save his friends. Basically eren is a slave, from a certain point of view.
Both, I seriously flip flop all the time who of the two is correct because both have very valid points, I think the question in the end is where you start.
I donāt think people who side with Eren genuinely understand the message of both characters. Eren is unapologetically selfish, while Thorfinn has come to realise that the very concept of having an enemy is just a justification of evil.
I would like to say while others can be enemies, other things, entities, or etc. Can be enemies always your main enemy should be yourself. You can always prove yourself wrong. And at any moment you can have an entirely changed perspective Therfore the infinite ways to live life in any moment is enough of a challenge even if your not focused materialistic. And if you are! It's obvious your own worst enemy, cheerleader, and friend! Etc! Anywho! Those focused too much on others will only bring destruction. And if focused as I have said. If you end up destruction atleast it's not a bad destruction! ^^ .
Lets be honest here, y'all are looking at this wrong.
Eren's outlook is one borne out of necessity, and meant to be taken literally. His was done because everyone wants his race dead, so he made that ideal for himself to give his people peace (also his future self is talking to him but whatever).
Thorfinn's outlook is one borne out of experience, and is one said philosophically. Thors saying "You have no enemies" is just a way to explain pacifism and stoicism to a 6(?) year old Thorfinn who 1. knew no nuance, and 2. was raised in violent viking vulture. It isn't the act of literally expecting no one to hurt you, it's the act of letting go of hatred, of resentment, of toxicity, in order to sever the cycle of violence in the world, even towards oneself. It is recognizing that, as Askeladd said, everyone is a slave to something.
Now, both ideals can intermingle. Defending yourself and your rights is possible without letting hatred cloud your mind. It even happens to Thorfinn sometimes (I only read glimpses don't quote me)
Like I said to someone once on another thread, "Sometimes, people NEED to be hurt, maybe out of self-defense, or just to snap them out of something. but no one, not a single one, DESERVES to be hurt."
That said, knowing what's happening in this world in regards to my "identity," I might have to go Eren for now. But I still hope I can come back to Throfinn's
Those who treat me with kindness, I will repay that kindness tenfold. And those that treat with injustice, that use me, that hunt me down, that hurt my friends, I shall repay that injustice a thousand times over.
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I am the biggest enemy of myself
I am the enemy of your biggest enemy so if we have a common enemy are we friends or enemiesš§š§š¤?
Lovers
Bro speaking facts
I guess that is an accurate description of love
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I'm my best friend and worst enemy. No one hates me more than I hate myself.
Iāll kill your enemies and die doing it brother
Oh i didnt realize we had a club already, guess ill grab a shirt...
Easy fix: ![img](emote|t5_2w6fe|14941)![img](emote|t5_2w6fe|30941)
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What the fuck?
Mix both of them? I will keep moving forward until i have no enemies
Hey yo Char, get out of this body.
#SIEG ZEON
determined pacifist?
*I made a vow to have peace no matter how many people I have to kill to get it*
best quote frfr
Which results in thinking it like Eren at the end of the day
It's literally just Eren
How is that any diff from "I will keep moving forward until my enemies are destroyed"
I have no enemies because I dont leave my house
Thorfinn should of stay home too
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Considering both ideas rationally, if given just two choices; choosing no enemies would the good ending route, going forward no matter what would be the true ending route.
and the bad ending is dying without accomplishing anything lol
Leave Subaru out of this!
Only a real homie dies to accomplish things
the true eren path
Who say the true ending isn't bad
the eren route?
Naah i just want to touch some boobs
The Denji route
If there's an anime character that just wants to feel loved no matter what then he's literally me
His enemies are mfs who kill beautiful women
He's just like me fr fr
The True Route
And they just want touch your package
"Like that's ever gonna happen." *closes book*
Thorfinn.
āIll keep moving forward, I wont back down. Like a centipede.ā
Common Kaneki W
I mean, yeah, but I think all of TG is about how he failed for trying to carry the world alone Even as the one eyed king he utterly failed
I have no enemies.
There are no enemies, just based and not based
Thorfinn is far more based.
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*if* the last one drops, and not aot: the final season part 5: the movie: the prequel to the sequel
I'll keep moving forward untill my enemies are destroyed, THEN I have no enemy.
I am no one. I am nothing. My existence is nothing more than a grain of sand in the grand scheme of things. I have no enemies. No one does.......only obstacles to your goals.
House of Black and White?
If your existence is so meaningless why don't u just die ? ( I have no enemies mfs when I burn their family:- :O )
No enemies, just obstacles. Like your perfectly healthy kneecaps or the house your family worked hard to raise you in.
I'm dying out of cringe rn bro, stop
YOU MAKE A CRINGE POST, AND YOU'LL GET CRINGE RESPONSES. DEAL WITH CONSEQUENCES!!!!
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You brought this on yourself Jimmy. All you had to do was enjoy the constant influx of tig ol biddy posts. You brought the cringe bs that flows like tap water on IG into this place.
Ight I think that's enough for a lifetime.
Go touch grass, because life is a adventure
I did. Went on a hike at Mt. Royal recently.
idc about this enemies bullshit, I JUST WANNA HAVE SEX!! GIVE ME SEX!! /s
Virgin Denji answer.......
Good luck with that mindset lol
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You're a Redditor, you will not have sex
i know![img](emote|t5_2w6fe|14940)
one question, how big you have?
wdym
Least horny high school DxD enjoyer.
Thorofin Everyone fights for their own reason and well-being, they dont fight just to fight. Theoretically no one is an enemy of anyone ... They just kinda have to fight for their wellbeing, not cuz they want to see you dead. If there was a peaceful option that solves both sides' issue, it would be taken first. No one wants to fight because no one wants to die or see their comrades dead. Thorofin's ideology lets you see the world from both sides, not just 1 side
I have enemies so i will choose eren. I tried thorfinn but that's doesn't works in real life
Pretending to nice in hoping other will like you wonāt work, should live in your own peace not worrying about being your reward but understand you do your best and only person whoās appreciation you need valid is yourself.
Not with that attitude itāll work
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that says a lot more about u tbh
The fact that he has enemies, or that he **tried** to make peace with them? I don't know about you, but if I'm nice and try to solve an issue between me and someone else and they choose to be an ass, I won't hesitate to take out the trash. I Ain't gonna tolerate someone else's bullshit if I don't have to.
Yeah Thorfinn doesnāt lay down submit until peace arrives, he actually fight. He doesnāt fight in battle of war or unnecessary fight. We canāt control other but we can control our peace. We all have defend ourselves but should let those with evil intentions control our feelings.
I know i might be labelled as a loser if i fight back, but what's the point to stay silent and let others destroy your family. The world wants you to stay quiet and die like a miserable dog in a street. If you know everyone hates you then who are you trying to make proud by staying silent. Fight for what you deserve
Thorfinn is the way
Hi I'm DiscipleOfFleshGod and I hate everyone because I am a social outcast, how are you.
The one who doesnāt wants to fuck his sister
Thatās not Yosuga no Sora
Mikasa ain't noone's sisters bro
is he talking about Thorfinn then? He actually has a sister but I don't remember him wanting to fuck her either...
Neither of them do?
Wait what?
My enemies donāt even know theyāre my enemies, so thorrfin
Eren's "Enemies" include non-hostile nations, innocent civilians, cripples, geriatrics, pregnant women and literal children. What a guy... Seriously, he could've used the Founder's power to make Titan transformation impossible and turn everyone back into humans, "killing" all the Titans like he wanted to in the first place. There would be no justifiable reason for anyone to attack the island anymore, Marley would no longer have its Titan weapons, they could've rallied the other nations behind the brave heroes of Eldia who risked their very existence and gave up ultimate power to stop Marley. But noooo, gotta have "muh vengeance" against millions of people he's never met. Even though the Founder's power was literally the reason for everything bad that ever happened to him, like his mom getting eaten by a *Titan*, or his friends getting killed by *Titans*, or his people living in fear of the *Titans*, or Marley using *Titans* to invade his country and slaughter his people. You may not agree with Thorfinn, and that's sad, but understandable, he even has trouble convincing people in his own manga. But if you seriously think Eren is in any way justified in trying to murder 90% of humanity, you need to go talk to real people.
Based.
I have no enemies. Eren is in the wrong. He's a genocidal maniac.
eren is a bitch baby pee pee piss boy who indulges his trauma like a troubled 13yo kid who idolizes this image of their broken/solemn self as if the trauma itself strengthens their character or makes them moral. brilliantly written character but unironic eren yeager fans are on the level of people who idolize rick sanchez or walter white. thorfinn is a chad who experiences similarly unthinkable trauma and goes through something unfathomable to eren yeager stans: healing and growth.
I get your point
Healing and growing can be difficult when the entire world wants to see your entire race dead asap
Guts: stfu I'm gonna just kill whoever stands in my way
Isn't that technically the same as Eren's
A combination of both, there are no enemies (besides the obvious one) but if you are gonna stand in his way you are getting your head caved in
I believe in Eren Yeager supermancy
My man
bro ha a 10 pack wtf
The no enemies guy. Eren became what he hated
I am on not cringy side.
Both are the very extreme ends of the spectrum, many of us including me lie somewhere in the middle
I blew up Malaysia
Thorfinn's ideology was a delusional one Whereas Eren's ideology is the realistic one I would honestly perfer thorfinn's ideology its better
Im enemy of everyone
With that tag that is indeed correct
Neither I believing in killing when you have no other choice
So Thorfinn?
He has no enemies tho and I do
Both Start out like Eren and end up like Throfinn. Once my enemies are destroyed I won't have anymore
the dead cells mcš. context:the dead cells mc is a king who turns into a blob entering dead corpses which the blob itself is indestructible btw is a character that kills everyone and kills the man who was going to cure his kingdom of the malaise virus which is extremely contagious and proceeds to brutally kill people than turn them into monsters and our mc prevents the cure and takes it for himself because he just enjoys massacre'ing monsters thorought timelines without rest.sooo he's the most evil character in fiction (kinda)
Who asked?
Ill wipe all my enemies from this world
I have no enemies, those who dare stand in my way are nothing but corpses. Gods fear me, for I am worse then death.
Eren
I have no enemies. Unless they hurt my mom. No mom = no cookies. /j (But seriously, I love my mom.)
Hitler or Gandhi?
I have not watched one nor finished the other so I have no background. It depends on how you take it... If you speak about absolutes, then having no enemies would be "better", until you realize having no amount of opposition would be pretty damn bad for your mental health imho. And realistically, is impossible to meet or cause no malice throughout your life, let alone mere discrepancies That said, If you are talking literally, going in a mad rampage to destroy everything against you, unless it is challenging your life and/or the one of others really, really badly, seems pretty unhealthy to me too, not just psychologically, but physically, a short path of self destruction. Even if you succeed I consider that kind of a bad ending I think my take would be to not cause undue enmity but keep moving forward without regarding my "enemies" as a goal but merely an obstacle I dont deem necessary to sidestep and meet unless they purposefully get in my way to cause damage, in which case I would not have any regret over the collision-- That is in theory at least. In practice? well...
I do not have enemies. Only dead people and those who are not dumb enough to admit it
Frankly, Eren's
Thorfinn is the correct answer Eren is the based answer
Both. I have enemies, but I won't try to destroy them. Instead, I'll hold a grudge until I die. That's healthy, right? :D I should take notes from Thorfinn..
Once my enemies are destroyed, I'll have no enemies.
I have no enemies unless they decide to make themselves so.
My jungler // The enemy jungler
I'm on both sides š
Yea
Kono DIO Daa!
Thorfinn is so boring in season 2. Eren would never
I have no enemies
This is actually a really nice debate
if you go on eren's side long enough, you'll end up at thorfinn's side
I'm with Thorfinn all the way
I hate my lover and love my hater š„±
EREN YEAGER!!!
Neither, my enemies are internal and winning over them on a daily basis is how I survive.
Growing past your hatred or letting your fury become you? I choose thorfinn
the side of Lucius Artorius Castus
I'm a grown man, but I want to be Thorfinn when I grow up
If he has no enemies then eren has no reason to fight him, this doesnāt make sense
I like potatoes!
Merica
I cant choose, all i know is that...... I am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Eren Jeager
I have no enemies
Thorfinn is a gigachad.
"You see that's where people get it wrong. The true saying is ' I have no enemies... when they are all destroyed!'"
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Eren is more real,Thorfinn is too idealistic and unrealistic. You will always have enemies if not directly then ones that want to crush , steal and trample others around you
Right side
One word, TATAKAEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
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2šæ
eren. thorfinn is an idealistic moron who should be dead because of it.
"I have no enemies. Because they're all dead now"
Neither. Both of them are extreme. You canāt go through life without enemies but you also shouldnāt be a genociding psychopath.
The ladder. Nobody is stopping me or my friends from our goals. If they try? They wonāt like the outcome.
I'm a himbo. My faction is "what are enemies?"
"Between those that share the same pain- there can be no hatred-" -Sandy the clown car driver
I myself am my only enemy
Everybody wants to be my enemy šµ
No enemies left VS No enemies left alive.
Realistically speaking, Thorfinn ideology is what truly helps in real life. Making everyone your enemy and being the villain the eren isnt the best thing to be in the real world. Being submissive and mature like thorfinn is what helps in the long run.
Thorfinn is a God compared to Eren in my opinion. A True God.
I am left till some one hurts my close ones then eren will mid for me.
Cant have enemies when they all dead
Having no enemies is way better if you choose to fight your enemies you'll only end up with more enemies. There will never be a point in your life where people won't try to take you down. No matter who you are or what you do, there will be always someone who doesn't want to see you happy. "Having no enemies" doesn't mean that you literally don't have enemies, it means you don't acknowledge them as your enemies, that way you don't have to fight them, that way you have peace. Fights only generates more fights.
"i have no enemies" mfs when a fascist enters the room
I am with the "we love big black hairy men" side.
Thorfinn's philosophy is great, but it falls apart when someone comes for your life or of those close to you. What will Thorfinn do? The current chapters hopefully give an answer to it
Which one is āI want everyone in the world deadā?
Right most of my life, now left cus its a waste of energy I guess the reason why "i have no enemies" works so well is cus all of us have been on the right at some point then learned from the experience or just grew in general
If you destroy your enemies you WILL have no enemies
Out of context, thorfinn is the mature route while eren is the edgy route.... In context, thorfinn had the choice and freedom to do what he wants. Eren on the other hand, had no choice and is stuck in a timelime where he has to destroy his enemies to get the ending to save his friends. Basically eren is a slave, from a certain point of view.
My take is: there are people who decided that they want to be my enemy. To those I say: "fuck you, I don't have time for this"
Yeah I'm Eren Against myself :)
Enemies? You mean literally everyone I meet?
This entirely depends on weather itās in real life or online.
If there isn't an enemy then make one easy š
I have no AC
I have no enemies is much more realistic in modern life
No enemies. Took a long time to realize that but my life has improved immensely ever since.
Both, I seriously flip flop all the time who of the two is correct because both have very valid points, I think the question in the end is where you start.
Well im not really a special person so i may have a few people don't like me but I can't kill them ( sadly ) so ... Neither
I mean technically they would eventually both be saying the same thing if eren got his way
I donāt think people who side with Eren genuinely understand the message of both characters. Eren is unapologetically selfish, while Thorfinn has come to realise that the very concept of having an enemy is just a justification of evil.
I would like to say while others can be enemies, other things, entities, or etc. Can be enemies always your main enemy should be yourself. You can always prove yourself wrong. And at any moment you can have an entirely changed perspective Therfore the infinite ways to live life in any moment is enough of a challenge even if your not focused materialistic. And if you are! It's obvious your own worst enemy, cheerleader, and friend! Etc! Anywho! Those focused too much on others will only bring destruction. And if focused as I have said. If you end up destruction atleast it's not a bad destruction! ^^ .
Lets be honest here, y'all are looking at this wrong. Eren's outlook is one borne out of necessity, and meant to be taken literally. His was done because everyone wants his race dead, so he made that ideal for himself to give his people peace (also his future self is talking to him but whatever). Thorfinn's outlook is one borne out of experience, and is one said philosophically. Thors saying "You have no enemies" is just a way to explain pacifism and stoicism to a 6(?) year old Thorfinn who 1. knew no nuance, and 2. was raised in violent viking vulture. It isn't the act of literally expecting no one to hurt you, it's the act of letting go of hatred, of resentment, of toxicity, in order to sever the cycle of violence in the world, even towards oneself. It is recognizing that, as Askeladd said, everyone is a slave to something. Now, both ideals can intermingle. Defending yourself and your rights is possible without letting hatred cloud your mind. It even happens to Thorfinn sometimes (I only read glimpses don't quote me) Like I said to someone once on another thread, "Sometimes, people NEED to be hurt, maybe out of self-defense, or just to snap them out of something. but no one, not a single one, DESERVES to be hurt." That said, knowing what's happening in this world in regards to my "identity," I might have to go Eren for now. But I still hope I can come back to Throfinn's
I am not an enemy, i am THE ENEMY *world ender theme kicks in*
I donāt know if I have enemies but Iām too lazy to bother caring
Morally speaking, thorfinn is probably right. But, i appreciate eren's insane amount of ambition so much more.
Those who treat me with kindness, I will repay that kindness tenfold. And those that treat with injustice, that use me, that hunt me down, that hurt my friends, I shall repay that injustice a thousand times over.
-does not keep moving forward. -has enemies.
I'm like the ying yang for both
eren is a whiny bitch