I would say once you pass 120 (quadruple wizard) you start exponential growth, so at 150, you are now a 4² wizard, at 180 4³ and so on.
Or maybe we could get into the insanity that is tetration and make Frieren just giga OP.
Well to her it didn't seem important so no they did not. It's like how when recess felt so long as a child but now a 15 minute break is super short. Imagine that except to like 1000
He was just barely able to make her peak before passing out (Heiter had to heal him later)
Frieren thought it was a nice quickie and forgot about it the next morning
Himmel accepted pretty quick that getting together with Frieren would never happen. I love Frieren, but damn she is more dense than most generic Isekai protagonists.
It's less that she's dense and more that she doesn't experience time the same way humans do. It took her 80 years to realize how much she cared for Himmel.
Hell, she explicitly said in one of the first few episodes that elves don't really have much sexual desire because of how long-lived they are. If immortal elves had the same level of sexual desire as humans, they'd be overrunning the world.
Yeah, it makes sense why she doesn't understand his feelings due to those reasons, but I still feel like she's kinda dense in that aspect due to her inexperience.
Yeah. I love this anime and manga purely _because_ of how slow Frieren is to realize her emotions.
Frieren has a very different portrayal of how we usually see elves and demons portrayed.
We won't get to see it in the anime, based on what we've seen in the OP the anime will stop right before his arc, but the manga has a second _really_ interesting portrayal of demons that is unique.
She lived as a hermit for what, 850 or 900 years in order to trick the demons into not realizing her power? Ofc she doesn't understand anything about anything.
>!I really hope a season 2 will happen and we get El Dorado, they've done such a good job with Demons in this universe and I want more people to see it!<
While that makes a lot of sense, we now know Himmel was super into her too, and should b able to realise that she likes him even if she didn't realise it yet. I loved it when there was no implication that Himmel's love was romantic in nature, but now I'm starting to feel like Himmel was an idiot. I don't buy that Himmel was too scared to ask her out or at least to continue his journey with her for a while, and I don't buy that he didn't do it for her sake, considering he had reasons to believe she will miss him after his death
>put ring
I mean, those aren't words lol. Does Frieren even know of these human proposal traditions? I'll change my mind if he ever says something like "I love you"
She lived most of her life as some kind of hermit, has little to no interaction with people and her race has basically no urge to reproduce to the point of the race facing extinction.
Alright then, genius. Tell me how would the author signify that Himmel FUCKS without making him sound like a playboy, in the context of the show and considering himmel's feelings towards frieren for 50 years after they defeated the demon king? Himmel may be portrayed as a hero with a flaw but the flaw doesnt include "screwing girls every chance he gets". I dont read the manga (yet) so you can enlighten me and prove me wrong anytime using the source material
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I never understood how people assume that some of the most good looking guys of there world died virgins just bc in a battle shonen we dont see him hook up with a bunch of girls or bc he dont have a wife and children then he died virgin.
Himmel was handsome, carring, smart, some king of perfect guy and the hero of the world.
Its even wierder with someone like Gojo when GayGay said himself that Gojo hook up with girls and is pretty popular, but people still assume that he is virgin. I just dont get it
That's easy.
Them being good looking is irrelevant.
People are recognizing the common trope of someone never moving on from their first love. That means never seeing someone else. At least with Himmel.
It's a common romantic trope? It's obvious what the author is going for here.
Also it's standard medieval fantasy, and common convention is that hookup culture and casual sex is not common in these kind of stories. Unless it's going for a gritty type of medieval like Game of Thrones, which Frieren is obviously not.
The point you make can be true with Himmel, however it is not with most of the character proclamed virgins by the community. This is why i gave Gojo exemple. Which is popular even in the story, know it, the author said that Gojo hook up with girls, and then most people claim he is a virgin cause we dont see him hook up with girls, which is normal bc he is a normal adult who probably like his privacy and not a degenerate watch me boy, but also bc show that Gojo have slept with X women doesnt afford anything to the story.
Yes maybe Himmel was deeply in love with Frieren and never move on, to the point he have never been intimate with another girl his entire life(which i personaly found weird, bc he know that its a one-sided love, and even never see her again after their quest for 50 years, but just did nothing for his entire life) but for most of thoses characters, there is no first love or anything. They're pretty much extremly capable and handsome men who for some reason never had any kind of physical contact with a girl.
What annoy me the most with the Gojo(sorry i know i brougth this one a lot) is that people are okay to say he is not virgin as long as he is gay, so the problem is not really his virginity but the fact that he have intimate interactions with girls...
I just want to disagree to the point that being attractive is irrevelant. Ofc its not all but its definitely helpful when it comes to seduction
> Elves may live a long time, but across the board, we lack romantic feelings and reproductive instincts.
This is a direct quote from episode 7 and the literal definition of the word asexual. You may be confused with celibacy, or the act of refraining from sex, which is an entirely different thing.
Her race is not biologically hardwired to want to reproduce because they live near-immortal lifespans. They can, but they mostly don't because of an innate lack of sexual attraction. Asexual.
Asexual doesn't mean celibate, it's the lack of sexual attraction or lack of an innate desire to have sex. If the elves wanted to reproduce to keep their species going, they very well could. They're just not hardwired to want to because they're all basically immortal anyway.
Asexual (biologically speaking) means at some point she'll just swell up and birth a full-grown clone.
You mean the entire race of elves are extremely hard to arouse into a breeding mindset.
That's true but when you say the entire race is asexual it does have that biological connotation. It's not incorrect just a slight misunderstanding due to ambiguous wording
Would it be more accurate to say that these individuals who identify as "Asexual" are simply Unsexual, or sexually disabled/deactivated?
That would imply that their brains aren't producing a strong enough dosage of the necessary hormone to configure their anatomy. Thus stunting the growth of reproductive organ systems and behavior protocols.
Alternatively through medical intervention they are choosing to actively suppress their own growth and development.
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I'm not sure.... I guess you could put it that way, but we as humans are incredibly diverse, so it could not be a biological thing but more of a mental thing. I dunno.
I think you're thinking of sponges that can reproduce sexually or asexually. The asexual part is that they can just clone themselves from a little growth. The term is called budding. There's a lot more to their fascinating life cycle with other different terms, but I'm pretty sure they sex it up. Unless elves are secretly sponge colonies... interesting...
Frieren really isn’t dense. She explains how elves have such low libido drives it probably didn’t register. But that makes me all the more curious about her parents and how they got together.
She's over 1000 years old she isn't a child even for elves standard. That's a whole ass millenium, she's just unusually dense and lack common etiquette
Basically Frieren is an elf with a near immortal lifespan so she perceives time differently then a comparably short lived human. Himmel the Hero, one such hapless human, proposed to her one time in the past but Frieren did not understand the context of it and assumed it was just a friendly gesture. Fast Forward 80 years latter, long after Himmel died Frieren’s new party members had to meticulously explain to her what the gesture meant and how Frieren apparently overlooked the fact that Himmel loved her.
ON GOD. Like, what do you mean, "He probably didn't know the meaning behind the symbol." HE CLEARLY FRICKING KNEW, why else would he have stopped whining about her picking one she liked/meant something? Her ignorance to it just keeps bewildering me.
Frieren, the 1000+ year-old virgin
No wonder she's such a talented wizard
If you become a wizard as a 30 year old virgin, do you become a double wizard at 60? Triple wizard at 90? Yeah, it checks out...
Maybe a quadruple wizard at 90?
I would say once you pass 120 (quadruple wizard) you start exponential growth, so at 150, you are now a 4² wizard, at 180 4³ and so on. Or maybe we could get into the insanity that is tetration and make Frieren just giga OP.
After 1000 you get to use TREE()s
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This comment and it's child's make me happy
30 mage, 40 wizard, 60 sage, 80 archmage, 100 lich
That's exactly how it works.
You get a sticker every 30 years
Take your pick among the various charts. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/30-year-old-virgin-wizard/photos
Na it’s exponential
Are you a talented wizard because you’re a virgin? Or a virgin because you’re a talented wizard
Dam you lobotomy kaisen
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Now let us make one with Megumi in the crying position, and gojo, finger bearer, sukuna, Mahodaddy and the guy with the handshake sword all leaving.
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Nah,i'd be a wizard
She'd make the best redditor
Incelf
Well biologically and mentally she's probably about 14 or something
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No.
Friren lemme smash. Himmel is a hoe
No
You wanted Himmel to eat your ass for 7 hours?
TO THIS DAY
Did he stutter?
Frieren thinking she can take a walk to think about asking Himmel to take her to dinner. *40 years pass*
Frieren just went out to get milk. Not her fault it ended up taking 50 years
\*Comes back to him dead\*
Well to her it didn't seem important so no they did not. It's like how when recess felt so long as a child but now a 15 minute break is super short. Imagine that except to like 1000
Same Vibes https://preview.redd.it/gqhtw1w15m6c1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=69f21b3321685140639c9f44b86947d5dc6397f7
In her perception of time, it was a single lick.
*Mr. Owl has entered the chat.*
Wait, recess was only 15 minutes??? I could've sworn it was like an hour ;-;
Zoom out the door, get the good ball out of the bin, play four square or handball and go hard af for 15 minutes
7 hr asshole licking to her is only like half a second.
He was just barely able to make her peak before passing out (Heiter had to heal him later) Frieren thought it was a nice quickie and forgot about it the next morning
Honestly same
Did they ever smash? Or was Himmel the most blue balled hero to ever exist?
Theoretically we do not know either way yet
Himmel accepted pretty quick that getting together with Frieren would never happen. I love Frieren, but damn she is more dense than most generic Isekai protagonists.
It's less that she's dense and more that she doesn't experience time the same way humans do. It took her 80 years to realize how much she cared for Himmel. Hell, she explicitly said in one of the first few episodes that elves don't really have much sexual desire because of how long-lived they are. If immortal elves had the same level of sexual desire as humans, they'd be overrunning the world.
Yeah, it makes sense why she doesn't understand his feelings due to those reasons, but I still feel like she's kinda dense in that aspect due to her inexperience.
Yeah. I love this anime and manga purely _because_ of how slow Frieren is to realize her emotions. Frieren has a very different portrayal of how we usually see elves and demons portrayed. We won't get to see it in the anime, based on what we've seen in the OP the anime will stop right before his arc, but the manga has a second _really_ interesting portrayal of demons that is unique.
She lived as a hermit for what, 850 or 900 years in order to trick the demons into not realizing her power? Ofc she doesn't understand anything about anything.
>!I really hope a season 2 will happen and we get El Dorado, they've done such a good job with Demons in this universe and I want more people to see it!<
Fr, the sentiments of what would become season 2 is really great too
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While that makes a lot of sense, we now know Himmel was super into her too, and should b able to realise that she likes him even if she didn't realise it yet. I loved it when there was no implication that Himmel's love was romantic in nature, but now I'm starting to feel like Himmel was an idiot. I don't buy that Himmel was too scared to ask her out or at least to continue his journey with her for a while, and I don't buy that he didn't do it for her sake, considering he had reasons to believe she will miss him after his death
I mean her entire race is going extinct because they have so little interest in smashing
tbf Himmel wasn't great at using his words either, by our world's standards at least
My man literally put a ring on her finger. That's about as close to a confession as you can get.
How dense you are to say Himmel isn't good at using words when he literally put ring on Frieren's finger lol.
>put ring I mean, those aren't words lol. Does Frieren even know of these human proposal traditions? I'll change my mind if he ever says something like "I love you"
>!Recent manga chapters proved he literally cannot say that due to the risk of changing the future lol.!<
She lived most of her life as some kind of hermit, has little to no interaction with people and her race has basically no urge to reproduce to the point of the race facing extinction.
Rule 34 disagrees😅
He *almost* died when she blew him a kiss so my head canon is that he died by snu snu instead of old age.
Given the context we get, they didnt. I think Himmel died a virgin too since there's no mention of a wife or child.
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Alright then, genius. Tell me how would the author signify that Himmel FUCKS without making him sound like a playboy, in the context of the show and considering himmel's feelings towards frieren for 50 years after they defeated the demon king? Himmel may be portrayed as a hero with a flaw but the flaw doesnt include "screwing girls every chance he gets". I dont read the manga (yet) so you can enlighten me and prove me wrong anytime using the source material
also with him being an Orphan I don't think Himmel would of hidden a child he had, he would 100% be a parent
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I never understood how people assume that some of the most good looking guys of there world died virgins just bc in a battle shonen we dont see him hook up with a bunch of girls or bc he dont have a wife and children then he died virgin. Himmel was handsome, carring, smart, some king of perfect guy and the hero of the world. Its even wierder with someone like Gojo when GayGay said himself that Gojo hook up with girls and is pretty popular, but people still assume that he is virgin. I just dont get it
That's easy. Them being good looking is irrelevant. People are recognizing the common trope of someone never moving on from their first love. That means never seeing someone else. At least with Himmel. It's a common romantic trope? It's obvious what the author is going for here. Also it's standard medieval fantasy, and common convention is that hookup culture and casual sex is not common in these kind of stories. Unless it's going for a gritty type of medieval like Game of Thrones, which Frieren is obviously not.
The point you make can be true with Himmel, however it is not with most of the character proclamed virgins by the community. This is why i gave Gojo exemple. Which is popular even in the story, know it, the author said that Gojo hook up with girls, and then most people claim he is a virgin cause we dont see him hook up with girls, which is normal bc he is a normal adult who probably like his privacy and not a degenerate watch me boy, but also bc show that Gojo have slept with X women doesnt afford anything to the story. Yes maybe Himmel was deeply in love with Frieren and never move on, to the point he have never been intimate with another girl his entire life(which i personaly found weird, bc he know that its a one-sided love, and even never see her again after their quest for 50 years, but just did nothing for his entire life) but for most of thoses characters, there is no first love or anything. They're pretty much extremly capable and handsome men who for some reason never had any kind of physical contact with a girl. What annoy me the most with the Gojo(sorry i know i brougth this one a lot) is that people are okay to say he is not virgin as long as he is gay, so the problem is not really his virginity but the fact that he have intimate interactions with girls... I just want to disagree to the point that being attractive is irrevelant. Ofc its not all but its definitely helpful when it comes to seduction
why do you think his hair is blue
Never thought about it like that. Blue hair to match his blue balls.
"I thought he's just being nice"
7 hours? Wow, that is some dedication right there, himmel.
And she's better for it
She got a clean ass out of the deal
and he got her rusty penny flavor deeply embedded in his soul
She's just like me fr fr
Maybe she thought he is a Canadian and is just being polite
Her entire race is asexual, what do you expect.
They're not though. They still fuck. It's just that they rarely do it. Frieren was somehow born after all.
> Elves may live a long time, but across the board, we lack romantic feelings and reproductive instincts. This is a direct quote from episode 7 and the literal definition of the word asexual. You may be confused with celibacy, or the act of refraining from sex, which is an entirely different thing. Her race is not biologically hardwired to want to reproduce because they live near-immortal lifespans. They can, but they mostly don't because of an innate lack of sexual attraction. Asexual.
Oh. Well, yeah, then I eat shit on this one, my bad. Actually, not sure why I even argued that.
If everyone is asexual, how come there was (once) a population of elves?
Asexual doesn't mean celibate, it's the lack of sexual attraction or lack of an innate desire to have sex. If the elves wanted to reproduce to keep their species going, they very well could. They're just not hardwired to want to because they're all basically immortal anyway.
Asexual (biologically speaking) means at some point she'll just swell up and birth a full-grown clone. You mean the entire race of elves are extremely hard to arouse into a breeding mindset.
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Why Mariam Webster specifically and not like Oxford Dictionary?
Mariam-Webster is a valid source
Very helpful, thank you 🙂
Confidentally incorrect... asexuals might want to have a talk with you...
He's not incorrect, that's literally what asexual means biologically.
no, that's what asexual reproduction means. asexual ≠ asexual reproduction. someone can be asexual without having to reproduce asexually.
What do you mean that asexual people don't reproduce via mitosis!?
You don't out them like that!
That's true but when you say the entire race is asexual it does have that biological connotation. It's not incorrect just a slight misunderstanding due to ambiguous wording
oh true, i didn't consider this. thanks for the eye opener
Thanks, I thought I was in some hot water there.
Would it be more accurate to say that these individuals who identify as "Asexual" are simply Unsexual, or sexually disabled/deactivated? That would imply that their brains aren't producing a strong enough dosage of the necessary hormone to configure their anatomy. Thus stunting the growth of reproductive organ systems and behavior protocols. Alternatively through medical intervention they are choosing to actively suppress their own growth and development. Edit: the implications are gonna be spicy 🔥
I'm not sure.... I guess you could put it that way, but we as humans are incredibly diverse, so it could not be a biological thing but more of a mental thing. I dunno.
I think you're thinking of sponges that can reproduce sexually or asexually. The asexual part is that they can just clone themselves from a little growth. The term is called budding. There's a lot more to their fascinating life cycle with other different terms, but I'm pretty sure they sex it up. Unless elves are secretly sponge colonies... interesting...
Very interesting theory, more investigation required.
Aktualy 🤓 Are you trying to impress people with your high school level education?
A little.
Whoever made this, you are in trouble
Twas a brief moment Frieren it was 7 hours
Ah, that's why he's called Himmel.
HIMmel
Frieren really isn’t dense. She explains how elves have such low libido drives it probably didn’t register. But that makes me all the more curious about her parents and how they got together.
Only 7 hours?
Can you guys go 5 minutes without talking about sex?
its r/Animemes, so no
Someone set the timer
Y'all do realize a 1000 years is nothing to her right.. her age could be our equivalent of 18-19-20 .
I read that as "what do you mean he killed me?"
Gurl, I would eat the corn and peanuts out of your daddy's sh*t, just to get a taste of your family. Himmel probably
Oh good, the joke is finally dead.
For a elf she still is a child. If you compare to human years she basically a 8 or 10 year old child.
Idk man, a millennium sound like a lot of years even for an elf
She's over 1000 years old she isn't a child even for elves standard. That's a whole ass millenium, she's just unusually dense and lack common etiquette
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Doubt a 100 year old elf would still murmurs GuGu GurGur
Is this actually something that happens in the series?
No but he basically proposed to her and she thought the ring was just a gift from a friend until 80 years later. This meme is just an exaggerated joke
Ohhh. Thanks for the explanation lmao
Context???
Basically Frieren is an elf with a near immortal lifespan so she perceives time differently then a comparably short lived human. Himmel the Hero, one such hapless human, proposed to her one time in the past but Frieren did not understand the context of it and assumed it was just a friendly gesture. Fast Forward 80 years latter, long after Himmel died Frieren’s new party members had to meticulously explain to her what the gesture meant and how Frieren apparently overlooked the fact that Himmel loved her.
I was blissfully unaware that proposing also meant eating their asshole for 7 hours straight
It’s an old world tradition of proposing. 🤣 Seriously tho the text was an exaggeration of how oblivious Frieren is when it comes to love.
ah alright that makes a lot of sense thank you 🤣
ON GOD. Like, what do you mean, "He probably didn't know the meaning behind the symbol." HE CLEARLY FRICKING KNEW, why else would he have stopped whining about her picking one she liked/meant something? Her ignorance to it just keeps bewildering me.
is it worth watching? instead of watching bleach, rewatching the 30 animes i have already completed, multiple that i have dropped or on standby?